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Jumpchain CYOA thread #909: West of Adam Edition

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>Google Drive
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>Rules
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>How to Jumpchain
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>Last Thread
>>47898980
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How does the Sajuuk from Homeworld jump compare to the Light of Terra?
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Might as well get this through, I will say that the Return of the Mad King DLC is in literally the final stages of writing, and will be uploaded within (god willing) the next hour or two. For now, have this!

CHANGELOG:

Gender and Age details
Formatting changes
Updated Clear memory, now gives Memory Driver creation
Updated Big Jug of Cell Medals, Refills in time
Clarified pricing and discount schemes for items and perks
Clarified T2 Gaia Memory Set, minor wording changes
Gadget Memories buffed, each purchase gives one of each Gadget now
Clarified how the Unlimited Colors scenario is unlockedand how it interacts with the Wisp memories.
Removed Wisp Memories from Jumper Memory pool, only attainable by Unlimited Colors
Gara's Lost Work edited to take into account the ease of making or acquiring cell medals with Desire Collector and Big Jug of Cell medals
Ancient Driver buffed, comes with 3 canon medals and now has greater utility.
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>>47906443
The LOT is way bigger. Way bigger (possibly 32km vs 5km).
The LOT can mount exterminatus-level weaponry, and the Sajuuk falls pretty short of that with its Phased Cannon Array (three shots to kill a battlecruiser vs the fleet-destroying Jovian cannon that the LOT can mount).
The only area the Sajuuk seems superior in is command and control - it's totally integrated with the ship's computer net, while the LOT still relies on manpower to operate.
The Sajuuk has a top acceleration of 12.5m/s/s which I'm pretty sure the LOT can best, but I believe it has the edge in maneuverability. Not sure how the trio of hyperspace cores compares to the LOT's reactors though, and I don't know how the LOT's warp drive compares to the Sajuuk's hyperdrive.
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>>47906475

oh, and
>SuperSonic can be spared

That is all
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KH question. The "Battle in the Center of the Heart" perk talks about enemies using techniques you can't fight off, but also says if an enemy tries to control you. So is it only useful against mind and body control, or could you use it to fight off things like having your soul torn out or being turned into a frog?
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>>47906493
That's fluff leading into the effect, that you can fight against effects that try to control you.
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>>47906509
Damn. Well, it's still useful, just not quite as much as I was thinking.
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>>47906491
Digger? Quick question boss.

Now in terms of SOLU, could I, with enough time, create a Switch the imitates the Cosmic Phenomena unique to a Setting? Like say the Planetary Crystals from Sailor Moon or Spiral Energy from TTGL or Mass Effect from...well Mass Effect?
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>>47906509
While you're here, what perk lets you actually pull off all the crazy shit you do in Reaction Commands, like grabbing water clones and turning them into guitars, snatching an enemy's weapon and riding it like a mechanical bull, or teleporting and blocking an enemy's shots?
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>>47906475

SHIT DISREGARD TIHS IS THE OLD VERSION
THIS IS THE ACTUAL UPDATE
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What the fuck is cosmic fact even for?
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>>47906491
Hey digger given that Greeeds Fight amongst each other because of the greed and unwillingness to share and Either cell metals Or core metals every skirmish How bad an idea is Unleash the Greeed five times Assuming you also take the second and third scenario?
here is my current build for the jump http://pastebin.com/HnXk6kWv am I screwed?
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>>47906690
sorry meant to link that to >>47906738
also >>47905705

>>47905522
>>47906731
it's to give you a back story in jumps
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>>47906731
To separate true knowledge from cosmic fiction.
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>>47906766
>>47906738
>>47906690

First off: Drawback greeed will only squabble AFTER they're done wrecking you. The canon greeed may fight them though.

Also...
Here you go everyone, hope it was worth the wait!
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>>47906690
Flamio, my good hotman.
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>>47906483
So basically, unless I want to make a fleet, any ship other than the LoT is useless.
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>>47907121
And that one, too!
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>>47907136
Depends. Do you want to be able to enter any inhabited system without putting the entire system into "imminent galactic warfare" mode?
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>>47907136
Hardly. The LoT is generally the most powerful ship you're going to find, but that doesn't make anything else useless. Power isn't everything after all.
And WH40K style warp drives aren't that good, fast or reliable in the grand scheme of things, even disregarding the whole "you have to enter the warp" thing that doesn't apply in other systems.
You can get better with specific upgrades like the Necron-style Inertialess Drive, but that takes away from other options.

Smaller ships have their places. Like not showing up in a Sci-Fi jump with a 32km long planet buster when you just want to visit someone (or just want a measure of sublety). That's probably something the locals take issue with, and that level of firepower isn't needed all that often - in all of those cases it's very likely more of a liability than an asset.

Seriously, can you imagine what happens when you park your LoT in orbit over Coruscant?
It'd probably be funny, but you better hope you didn't have any plans for that jump.
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>>47907136
Well there are a lot of reasons to have a different ship.
The LoT is not subtle. It's not stealthy, and even in 40k it will stand out like a sore thumb - any other setting, it'll attract notice, fast.
Its technology is generally cumbersome and slow compared to a lot of other sci-fi.
It's warp drive is not very accurate (again compared to other sci-fi), and some aspects are certainly a lot of trouble in the short and long run (like the tribes and anything infesting the lower decks).

I'd suggest the Jurian tree-ship as a viable alternative, since it's got space-warping technology. But fleet building is totally the way to go.
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>>47906690
>>47907121
This is the absolute best thing to wake up to. Excellent work, Digger.
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>>47907219
If you don't begin every single visit to a planet by obliterating the local defenses and making the planet's rulers bow to your flying megacock, you're not Jumping right.
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>>47907121
Umm, Digger?
>>47906556
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>>47907219
How parking a 16th Century Spanish Galleon in orbit and demanding a ransom of a billion solar dubloons?

It could happen.
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>>47907309
Sure, you could probably mimic their effects, though I imagine they'd be a bit stunted in full potential compared to those things proper, and as with many of the rider gimmicks they're a bit one-note compared to the 'real thing'
Still, it ain't impossible.
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>>47907315
Did that with the Aviation Battleship Hyuuga.

"This is the IJN Aviation Battleship Hyuuga, for the glory of the Rising Sun I declare your pathetic lot forfeit, unworthy to even look upon the glory of one of the Immortal Emperor's ships! Prepare for your deaths dishonourable curs!"

...so in retrospect, it wasn't like that, but the survivors of that incident had a really hard time convincing other Terminus pirates of what really happened. When a Batarian Fleet got their asses kicked by, and I quote, "HIS GLORIOUS FLEET REBORN!", the Systems Alliance had a lot of questions to answer.

Huh, so that's why Kasumi punched me and then gave me a smooch with all the tongue...anyways! So, yeah, with the right stuff, you too could have a fleet of World War 2 ships in space and still be thousands of years more advanced than anything out there.

Ah, those poor, poor Reapers.


>>47907346
Hmm, I see, cool beans boss!
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OK so looking for emotion or illusion based abbillities for new chain. i already have the empath perks from arrowverse and teen titans. and i took aspect of oblivion illusion as well as theif of heart. doesn't matter if its magic but any emotion manipulation or reception is appreciated
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Brief update. I'm part way through book 6 and have found that the series does indeed have a wiki, plus a pretty decent wikipedia entry.

I've figured out what I want to model the drop-in line on and am putting consideration to how to sort out the dragons.
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>>47907476
For Temeraire, not certain how I forgot to put that in.
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>>47906686
Oops, forgot to answer this. Lucky I remembered before I fell asleep.

Unfortunately there's no specific perk for that. We did look at doing something like that with Reaction Commands, but it was far too big of a headache. Sorry about that.
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>>47907121
>>47907346
>>47907346
first this is amazing and I'm looking forward to whatever you make next, because that's also probably going to be amazing.Second here's my build,and plan does this work?:
embrace inheritance
destroy throne+1000
A Familiar Bell-100
The Dragon’s Hoard -100
The Station of the Alchemists-700
Green Scarf-100
slay all knights+300
Giru’s Punishment-300

the plan: equip lux driver, (jumper Magnum+zero memory) and Shieldstriker ,And hit him with nothingness using superspeed from the sealed striker to scramble around picking up the metals before he can use them. Keeping him week for the fight.
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Hey guys! So, been doing a Jump for my companions to star in and it made me wonder, I've heard a lot about Jumpers and what they are like when pissed, but what about your companions?

What are the most terrifying words your Companions utter that would make you shudder with legit horror?

Funny enough, when one of the girls simply goes, "Ladies, Brushes." I tend to just freeze up in horror.

Angry extremely powerful Brush Gods whose Aspects all overlap and enhance each other is something you wish you never invoked or survived.
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>>47907219
Why bother when it's more powerful than any other ship to the point of making entire fleets of capital ships irreverent. Just shoot anything that makes itself a problem.
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>>47907519
>>What are the most terrifying words your Companions utter that would make you shudder with legit horror?

I'm pregnant.
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>>47907525
Exactly. The proper state of any entity interacting with the Jumper should be a mixture of awe, terror, and crippling despair. If they can look you in the eye, you need to shatter their spine.
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>>47907512
whoops forgot that last 500
Oydwen-400 100 remaining
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>>47907529
You ever heard of band babies? I just thought about that but with an adventurer group...
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>>47907219
Well, on my end it doesn't really matter because I use magic to conjure as many of the most powerful ships at my disposal ad nausium. All I care about is which one is better so that I can decide whether or not anything of value exists in Homeworld ships, and if I should change from casting 'create Light of Terra' to 'Create Sajuuk'.
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>>47907575
that's pretty much how my Son and grandson came about.
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>>47907583
Well, the LoT is basically a flying brick with lots of guns. THE flying brick with lots of guns of spaceships.

If all you care about is firepower and durability you can't really get much better in jumpchain afaik.
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So here's what I've always wondered about the LoT. If you run it through the various size upgrades, would you even need weapons to fuck up a planet? Wouldn't an object of that size orbiting the planet in close proximity fuck up the tides significantly?
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>>47907583
Can't you, I don't know, just make your own spaceship with the best parts available to you? If you can conjure massive spaceships wholesale, can't you just make the ship you're conjuring better by, like, conjuring it harder?
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>>47907654
It only gets to around Florida size and it's not solid so it wouldn't have the mass of something like Florida so it might have a small effect but probably not enough to destroy the planet through gravitational pull alone.
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>>47907654
I asked /sci/ something similar once. I wanted to know how visible a Belgium sized object would be if said object was in orbit around Earth and the viewer was standing on Earth.

The answer I got, from what I can remember, is that it'd block out the moon easily and, depending on where it was and where you were, would cause some long-term solar eclipse like effects.
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>>47907689
>Belgium sized
Why?
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>>47907519
Depends on how much of fucking scrubs er mooks er...pathetic weaklings the other guys are.
Here are some stuff about how they are like.

"I was in the mood for some fresh meat"
"Guess the big guy is going to be eaten well done tonight".

As for what causes in me terror.

"My larva need some more nurturing, I wonder, if I had them crawl around your guts, would you be considered to be pregnant because of it?"

"A plague for you and you and you and you, Everyone gets to be pregnant now, congratulations".

"I am going to take out your nuts, feed them to you and feed your eyes to him, then my babies are going to crawl inside your belly up from your ass".

"Fine FINE, You WIN, no not the loterry, don't know how that works, what you win is the honour of me melting you down in the pool slowly, tell me all about your expierence afterwards k?"
-Zerg Queen, So alien, so terrifying, yet sexy as hell.


"He is mine, thinking you may harm him whilst I am around was your biggest mistake mortal, you are nothing more than a puppet, a toy to use as I desire and now my Slave and I will enjoy taking my time breaking you"

"Heel and beg for your life slave....opsie, I broke your legs, now lets see about your arms and slowly work around to breaking parts of your spine, do not worry you won't die, not before I get the ant colonies to start living inside of you and your mouth will need to remain open for the darlings to go around as they wish, its going be to lots of fun"

"Let me show you what the Furies taught me"

"I took a page out of her book, she took a page out of mine and now I am shoving those worms in your brain to see if you will be of any use to me, do try to keep your screams down, you won't like the monsters that will come if you do".
-Greed Goddess, My litle girl all grown up.

>This Anon is very moved by his companions and their dedication on causing misery to his enemies when they harm him badly.
>Is a litle bit terrified by how sadistic they are at times
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>>47907669
Yeah, but it's also made of bullshit superdense metal instead of dirt.

No idea what the LoT weighs originally, but after the various size upgrades you'll have a pretty significant amount of mass sitting in orbit.

It's probably not enough to outright destroy a planet, but affecting the tides? Maybe causing earthquakes? I don't know enough physics to say either way, but i would be surprised if it does nothing.
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>>47907741
oh it's deftly going to do something I just don't think it's going to do anything that major and yes it's outer Hull is made of super dense metal but it's mostly filled with air.
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>>47907519
>LOVE!
Midori Carol Neufeu, stop that this instant!
>LOVE!
Please? They're only ninjas!
>LOVE!
Not in the inn!
>LOVE!
Ai, help! Your sister is doing it again!
>FIGHTING!
Everyone run for your lives!

I need to give that girl quite the talking to after she rebuilds the inn. Again.
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>>47907741
If it gets close enough to the atmosphere it will (and I do mean /will/) fuck up the weather patterns and depending on speed may also discplace a portion of the atmosphere towards space.

The tides hm yes they will be affected, but less than you think.
Frankly just by existing and moving around, the damage is worse inside the atmosphere if you go too fast and mess things like the seasons and more.
On its own.....it could mess really badly the magnetic field depending on various things.

Lastly go to fast on entry and you might destroy or displace part of the ozone layer.

So yeah you should be fucking on a degree so many stuff at that size.
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>>47907713
Why ask about Belgium sized? Because that’s how big my Terra is.

As for why to make it that big, that’s a different story. The population of the Terra is just over 4 million, 700000 of which are humans who volunteered for a Zentradi-like upgrade that makes them hueg. So as the Terra was not designed with that population in mind, let alone a crew that sizable, I needed more Terra. Thankfully, upgrading the Terra to sensible technology and getting rid of a lot of the 40k tech did wonders for freeing up space. All the same, though, it was and still is a big project.

Basically, that’s my home. My floating civilization that I carry around with me from jump to jump, but that I rarely get to interact with as much as I’d like.

My own personal ship that I use for in-jump shenanigans is my Jurai ship. That hauls my active companions and I around, and has a small attachment that stores power armor, variable fighters, and all that goodness.
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>>47907775
>Midori Carol Neufeu
hmmmmm.
Kon anon is dat you?
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>>47907519
"Good news, everyone!", Orochimaru or Fran

"Let's be best friends forever!", Alice

"Hey, what does this button do?", any new companion left in the Warehouse next to an unattended prototype

"[Morse for Go The Fuck To Sleep]", the Ravenloft Doll

"I need you. Warehouse. Five minutes", various female companions

"I know what you did last night. I've got copies. They look fabulous", various female companions

"Good heavens, look at the time! It's FLOWER POWER HOUR!" Yuuka after too much Mountain Dew

"Hold my sake, I can totally do this" Yuugi after too much ambrosia

"Guys, I learned a new spell! And I made it better!", Jibril

"Yeah no, I'm not letting you do that", any of my more morally upright companions, but especially Elodie, Radio Noise, Solaire, Brigid and Alita

"I just cast the runes. You're fucked, boy", Odin

And technically not a companion but "I BROUGHT YOU A PRESENT!", Umor
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>>47907525
So that you don't have to bother with that jump or any of it's bullshit or because the Light of Terra is just a big old sack(read, oversized) of shit with guns?
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>>47907519
I'm a Harem Jumper, so there's only one phrase I dread hearing.
The Red Tide is Upon You!
I set up an enchantment based on the Alarm spell in D&D a long time ago to get advanced warning, but I always know I'm going to be in for a rough couple of days when I hear it. At least two of my Companions don't have to worry about that issue.

Fun Fact: It's very common for women to "sync up" when they are in close proximity for an extended period of time.
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So what did everyone pick up in City of Heroes? I'm tempted to just go full elemental but i'm not so sure. Is there a better durability perk than Invulnerability?
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>>47907818
>"I just cast the runes. You're fucked, boy", Odin
Don't know why.
But he is the one who cracks me up the most.

As in the moment I hear it point and laugh.
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>>47907837
This. The LoT is just big. It's the biggest example of a ship overcompensating for lack of quality for sheer absurd quantity. A jumper with Sajuuk blueprints could adapt the technology employed to make a ship that's just as good, if not better, that actually makes proper use of it's size.
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>>47907519
>most terrifying words a companion can say
"I think <one of the powerful de-yan'ed yanderes> is acting like their old selves..."

"Claude said she was making a surprise for you."

"Malice said she wanted to cook tonight." (Alice, M. ('Malice') is one of my Doll sisters from Nechronica. She's a Holic/Gothic cannibal and doesn't know how to cook for guests. We tried to teach her. We failed.)

>>47907860
I went for ranged blaster stuff myself.
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>>47907837
>So that you don't have to bother with that jump or any of it's bullshit or because the Light of Terra is just a big old sack(read, oversized) of shit with guns?

You know if you imported it as a ACU or SACU it comes with a free hanger attachment for the warehouse so that you don't have to worry about that you can just keep it inside,I also put some Teleport gate runes and portable receivers for them in there so I can still use the guns when it's Docked in the hangar
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>>47907815
What? There is no Kon anon here.
I am a normal hew mon bean.
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>>47907860
The mastermind minions are much more useful than they appear,my one of my companions went mastermind and uses them all the time. never underestimate the power of that supply drop or that one Super minion
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I'm feeling particularly mad about how Mangekyou Sharingan in Naruto jump works.

Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu were Itachi's abilities, one for each eye. While Sasuke had Amaterasu in one eye and ability to shape and control it in other, Kagutsuchi. People might say "But it doesn't make sense for one eye to be ability to shape it, because if a person had that one eye, they wouldn't be able to do much."

Exactly. Sharingans are more powerful when working together. It's not just Susanoo, it's using both at once.

People might say "But anyone can use Tsukuyomi, Itachi was the best at it though."

No. Sharingans all have an Eye-contact based genjutsu's but Tsukuyomi is something different, something only Itachi had. The eye contact genjutsu was used on Deidara, Orochimaru and Sai and was even used by Kakashi at one point. Before Mangekyou.

The issue of Sasuke having Itachi's Amaterasu just activate when seeing Tobi's mask was one time thing, due to Transcription Seal placed by Itachi in Sasuke's eyes. He sealed Amaterasu in it, just like how he sealed ability of Shisui to activate, and put the eye in the crow.

Infinite Tsukuyomi is not Tsukuyomi. It's a Rinne Sharingan exclusive thing.

Where's Naruto anon?
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>>47907995
Man, I've never been so glad to have no fucking clue what any of that shit means.

Naruto is even worse than the Nasuverse for esoteric bullshit that makes no goddamn sense when people start sperging about it.
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>>47908078
Tsukuyomi - Flame that covers whatever you look at, can't be extinguished(supposedly.)

Kagutsuchi - Technique that allows you to manipulate said flame, not just SPLERG it all over.

Tsukuyomi - Unique Eye Contact Based Illusion. Can torture or do stuff to person for 72 hours and in real life it's like a few seconds. No physical damage carries over though.

Susanoo - Basically Nero's Devil Trigger scaled up, into eventually mecha like thing.

Transcription Seal - A thing that lets you infuse a thing with one charge of the jutsu, to activate on certain trigger or command.

Sharingan - Copy Wheel Eye.

Mangekyou Sharingan - Kaleidoscope Copy Wheel Eye. Super ADvanced Form of Sharingan, eventually makes you go blind if you overuse it unless you upgrade it further.
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>>47907995
All I care about is, can I still use the Tsukiyomi to teach empathy to internet trolls by making them live out the threats they make?
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>>47908133
>Tsukuyomi - Flame that covers whatever you look at, can't be extinguished(supposedly.)
*clap clap*
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>>47908145
SHIT.

>>47908133


AMaterasu is the flame
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>>47908078
They're the super-special eye powers of the Naruto author's self insert gary stu.
That's basically it.
Think "edgy teenager comes up with magic ninja powers" and you're basically there.
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Did we ever have a Tom and Jerry jump? I seem to remember a wip for one for some reason or another.
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>>47907519
From Seven' chain:

"Trust me." -Spark
"I'm hungry." -Tabi
"I have a better idea." -Carwyn

In the Rider chain:
"I'VE GOT THIS!" -Undyne
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>>47907847
>Fun Fact: It's very common for women to "sync up" when they are in close proximity for an extended period of time.
Actually, nope. That's just a myth. Syncing up isn't actually a thing that happens.
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>>47908262
I can assure you from personal experience, it is in fact a thing. I worked around mostly women for ten years and it most certainly happens after a while.
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>>47908237
Forgot one:
"You idiot." -Asriel. He...backslides sometimes when facing a real monster. I think he sees himself in a lot of them.
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>>47908299
Huh, really? Because there have been quite a few studies disproving it, or not finding evidence for it. Like, wikipedia says this on it:

>After the initial studies, several papers were published reporting methodological flaws in studies reporting menstrual synchrony including McClintock's study. In addition, other studies were published that failed to find synchrony. The proposed mechanisms have also received scientific criticism. A 2013 review of menstrual synchrony concluded that menstrual synchrony is an erroneous theory.[4]
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>>47908350
Don't you know anecdotes trump studies? Where do you think you are, anyway?
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>>47908350
Oh, believe me, I know full well about the study. I researched the phenomenon myself to see if it was even really a thing years ago. I didn't believe in it myself at first.

But the evidence from personal experience eventually convinced me it wasn't just random coincidence. The women who had worked together for years were all on the same set schedule. Even more damning, a new woman was hired and after a few months (three or four) her cycle had shifted more than a week from where she was used to it. I overheard all this directly from the women themselves, so I don't have much reason to think they're lying.

Still, I recognize the science isn't behind my conclusion.
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I never got a final answer IN THE OVERLORD JUMP CAN YOU BUY THE MAID MORE THAN ONCE?
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>>47908444
SURE GO NUTS! SINGLE PLAYER GAME!
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>>47908469

1300cp of Maids here I come
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>>47908496
Maido modo!
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>>47908496
Unlimited Maid Works.
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>>47907346
hey digger I noticed that if you choose to except your Inheritance you don't get your power back at the end of the DLC,was this intentional and if so is there an opportunity to get it back in a future DLC
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>>47908350
Well, I guess if Wikipedia says it's false, then it must be. It's not like just anybody can go on there and muck about with the entries.
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>>47908584
You are aware that it cites several studies, yes? And that several studies with groups of over 100 women living together have found the claim to be total BS, right?
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One Punch Man.

Saitama's Serious series techniques, several of them, were resisted by a dude. And he survived the damn things. And countered them. And blocked them.

And Saitama didn't really beat him, he talked him down, until eventually the dude started losing his skill in new forms even though he gained power, which actually made him a weaker opponent because Skill and analysis were his main things

This is the power of Mysterious Beings
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>>47908555
>Unlimited Maid Works.
Best Noble Phantasm or best Noble Phantasm?
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So if I say imported the LoT as an ACU with the transform ability then imported it as a Lagann-type mech. What would be the best things to join with? I was thinking about using it to join with a massive LoT that my ACU makes then just continue doing that ad infinitum. Would that work?
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>>47907519
"Hop on"

I will never get used to missile surfing, fucking acrophobia
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Can anyone tell me how likely it is that Chaos or something kills me if I'm a psyker? Like how dangerous is it to use or just possess, even? The below drawback suggests that it can be pretty stable, but what I know of 40k makes e hesitant.

"Unstable +200CP: The power of the warp flows through you, but you are not its true master. Minor abilities are unaffected, but serious exertions of your power tend to be highly unpredictable in their effects Doesn't guarantee perils of the warp, but don't expect much precision from your abilities."

So how dangerous is being a psyker in and beyond 40k? To be clear, I mean without the above drawback.
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>>47908705
Uh.

Did...did you miss the part where he treated it as a neighbourhood brawl, and said mysterious being was going into utter despair at the realisation Saitama was barely putting any effort into the "fight"? What about the part where the REASON why Saitama was shittalking him was because from his point of view the whole thing was a neighbourhood brawl, and didn't even realise he was intending to kill him unlike during the Boros fight?

Oh, and Garou is a bad example. Garou is an EXCEPTIONALLY powerful Mysterious Being given he and Boros are the only ones that needed a serious move-and before you ask no, I'm not getting into the bloody "Boros vs Garou" arguments I've seen too much of an /a/ until Murata gets round to redrawing that fight. The Boros fight was buffed a lot from the original webcomic after all.

Back on point, Garou is significantly above the Sea King in power, and the Sea King is confirmed demon-level. And he got one punch'd without a single serious move.
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>>47908757
Well from what I know of 40k the Emps fighting Horus created a new eye of Terra. While you may never be their level going alpha would make you pretty strong. This will attract daemons and all kinds of nasty shit. It's probably best if you hit Eldar for the harlequin blank perk or take blank in the Imperium jump and load up of the psyker perks in other jumps, LoT for instance.
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>>47907492
I have some Kingdom Hearts questions if you don't mind.
Can you use the same weapon with both Absent Silhouette and Summoned Weapon?
Second, can you pick a unique element with Aspect of Oblivion, or do you have to pick a canon Nobody to copy? I want to have the element of “raw mana” but if that's not kosher I'll just go with Lightning.
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>>47908705
Also,

>saitama didn't really beat him

While Garou did initially pull off the martial arts analysis bullshit Saitama was still barely serious fighting him, it's important to note at this point he hadn't become a complete Mysterious Being. All he succeeded in doing was convince Saitama to flip him into the stratosphere.

Becoming the huge demon Mysterious Being thing actually made him weaker as an opponent according to Saitama. When he was mostly human-shaped there was seemed like a fight enough to earn a few compliments from Saitama; after coming down from the sky Saitama literally rips his MB bits apart until he's a human again.
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>>47908768
Wait, I read that Garou managed to not die from several Serious Series techniques...

I just want to see it in Anime. Especially since it shows that, yes, a thing to match Saitama IS possible. Garou got power but lost his skill as he got into his next forms. Imagine if he kept the skill or got smarter and such.
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>>47908808
To be fair, The reason Saitama said that he was weaker because then Garou started relying too much on power instead of the skill he accumulated and such. Skill was his main thing. The final form increased his power incredibly, but he lost the most important thing he had going for him.

Best part? He still kind of adapted/evolved. THat form is what we call Final because it was the last form we saw. Imagine if the fight kept going on longer.
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>>47908808
>>47908838

I mostly relied on Wiki, to be fair, but yeah, I think the issue was also that in his final form... Garou couldn't go any further.

If you forgive me for using Bleach analogues, Garou's final form and such was him becoming Arrancar while he still could have went further as a Hollow, thus he wasted his potential. He wanted power immediately. He got that. He screwed himself over.
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>>47907818
Which Odin from what jump? And who is Alice? As for the various female companions ones...I guess it's more relevant as a fear when you're in corporeal form again huh?
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Guys.

Help. I used NGNL magic to summon Saitama against Superman in DC.

I think I broke the world.
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>>47908815
Two, specifically. Both of which were implicitly way, way more halfassed than the seirous punch Saitama pulled out against Boros considering by the end of the fight, he still thinks Garou's most serious crime is a DINE AND DASH.

He literally thought he was dealing with some angry dumbass, treated it like trying to restrain him safely and was only pleasantly surprised he could fight back at all.

>a thing to match Saitama IS possible

Personally I wouldn't say anything's set in stone at the moment. OPM gives even fewer shits about deepest lore than Medaka Box; hell, there hasn't even been a formal, universal explanation for why most heroes are superhumanly strong.

>>47908838
Again, his skill let him passably defend himself against a Saitama who was trying to nonlethally restrain him. The minute Saitama realised he had a somewhat interesting opponent-bam, straight into the sky.

Saitama had a much higher stakes fight against Boros; at least in the Murata version he at least started to think it was an actual fight after being launched to the moon. At the moment we only have the webcomic to measure Garou's feats by, he gives up way, way before any lunar jumping occurs. the moon kick evidently wasn't Boros' strongest attacki-and by the end of their "fight" Boros flat-out said Saitama was still holding back.

>He still kind of-

That's a pretty terrible way to describe "he turned into a huge, slow moving target Saitama was instantly disappointed in and smashed apart with even less effort".

Also it was kind of the point of Saitama's absolutely ruthless roasting that his grimderp mess of a personal philosophy couldn't let him keep going in the face of ovewhelming adversity.
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>>47908921
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>>47908921
You might be fine.

You might not be.

You might have merely mildly inconvenienced supes/Saitama

I really, really wouldn't estimate Saitama's strength until the webcomic progresses further. At the moment the only thing we know FOR SURE is that he's leagues beyond anything IN HIS OWN SETTING.

To be fair it really depends on which Superman you encountered.

>>47908862
I...don't know anything about Bleach and what I've heard about it hasn't encouraged me to look further but-

>He wanted power immediately. He got that. He screwed himself over.

-yep, that's pretty much what happened actually! He wanted to be a hero, had no self-confidence and settled for being a villain. It's not clear if this is universal, but for him at least becoming a Mysterious Being essentially hardcapped his fighting potential.
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>>47908921
...Why would Saitama fight Supes? How badly did you fuck up?
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>>47908944
I think there actually was.

It's literally ASA. The guy was called God by one of villains.

Anyway, I think I know WHY exactly Garou started getting weaker.

As shown in OVA and manga, transformation into Mysterious Being is a drive to do a certain thing or to accomplish a certain goal.

Saitama's talking to Garou and his fight fought against Garou's drive. Garou decided to be the most Unfair Evil, and that is the form he got. What drives you, what is your desire, determines what type of Mysterious Being you are. And Garou's motivation, or at least the details of his goal, started changing as he fought against Saitama, which might be what weakened him, too.
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>>47908921
Why don't you just summon Sans into the whole mix and convince him Sups and Saitama both need to have a bad time?

Just escalate things even further. I'm sure that'll solve everything.
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>>47909005
Sans doesn't even like fighting tho

He'd just convince them both to sit down and eat a burger or something

And considering neither is a murderhobo (of people at least) at heart, they're probably going to say yes.
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>>47908985
Arguably, Saitama is implied to be a type of Mysterious Being, or at least has powers gained in similar way.

Again, his Drive, motivations, and all started breaking as he fought against Saitama. Even then he admitted he just wanted to be a hero, a real one. Because even when he wanted to be a Monster, a Villain, he wanted to be what would cause the world to unite and form the Ultimate Good. He wanted to better the world.

>>47909005
>>47908993
Well, Saitama, when I jumped One Punch Man, told me he wants a worthy challenge.

So I summoned him when I was in DC. Luckily, the Time limit will run out.... eventually...

5 minutes is still a long enough time to break the world.
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>>47909040
Just murder his brother and blame it on Superman and Saitama. That'll get his lazy butt in motion fast enough.

Why don't you want to break the world Anon?
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Saitama vs Doomsday, go.
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>>47909071
>meme character fight
no
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>>47909071
Demonbane wins.
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>>47909112
With a target that big, Saitama can't miss.
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>>47909086
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>>47909061
Cry harder Chara, enjoy having no friends or happy ending in every possible timeline.
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>>47907529
Just pull the baby out of her. And drop it somewhere deep.
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Rolled 9 (1d10)

Don't mind me, just seeing which one to do before the other:
Evens - Samurai Jack
Odd - Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
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>>47909175
Friends are just people you kill last. Everyone deserves a knife in the end.
Even me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co5Zo6Ng9-c&index=16&list=LLlHoh6jVfgtF4rpvLqzjO6Q
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>>47909217
Well then! Time to go posing.
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>>47908793
That hole was created by Magnus busting through Emps' psychic shield while he was busy repairing/fiddling with the webway and had it exposed to the warp.

Emps IS implied to have created a warp hole from his chair though, it's one called the Storm of the Emperor's Wrath, which swallowed an entire fleet and system that was rebelling.
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>>47909177
But Anon as frightening as having Your significant other knocked up is. the purpose of life is literally to reproduce successfully.
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How are TES werewolves? I've managed to avoid lycanthrope throughout my chain and am thinking of taking the plunge there along with the Companions guild in Skyrim.
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>>47909311
Regularly killed by fighty dudes with swords.
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>>47909311
The only times I've died in Skyrim are when I fight high level wizards before I got some good resistance gear, and when I was dumb enough to turn into a werewolf.
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>>47909177
If you're too stupid to use contraception when you have super science, magic and control over biology at your fingertips you deserve to get stuck with a baby you didn't want.
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>>47909311
In Morrowind, they're extremely high level opponents and stronger than anything else you can fight.
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>>47909311
Unless you're joining them to give Aela the naughty, don't bother.
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>>47909311
Pincushions for the Reachman.
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>>47909311
They're general weaksauce, despite their fearsome appearance.
These two >>47909350 >>47909362 are completely accurate.

They're great at bumrushing 1 or 2 enemies at a time, because they can do this knockback thing that puts people on the ground, and it takes time to get back up, giving you time to maul the other one.

City guards and mages will fuck a werewolf up. They just suck at fighting large groups, or anything magic.

Go Vampire Lord. Vampire Lords can rofltstomp even giants.
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>>47909311
Skyrim's companion questline is the very worst out of a bunch of terrible ones.
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>>47909435
I don't know, it at least has very strong competition from the thieves guild. I would personally consider the thieves worse.
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>>47907995
I'm here.
And I'm aware that it's not an all mangoes sort of thing. Madara and Tobi had different abilities, though I think that all mangoes could use susanoo, the other two it offered were generally unique.
But you see what the problem would be if I made up some abilities right? Or let the jumper make their own. I've seen the shit PS238 kicked up.
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>>47909547
Since its singleplayer, anyone who takes the sharingan and cares about this will just ignore it.
Same thing I did in Rwby when I decided all the options sucked.
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>>47909480
There totally should have been a "destroy the Thieves' Guild" quest the same way there was a "destroy the Assassins" quest. Oh, and a way to decapitate Sybbi Blackbriar without cheats.
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>>47909480
At least the thieves guild line had some real thought behind the quests, and not just fetch quests.
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>>47909587
I can't stop you from ignoring literally everything I write, changing all the abilities I put in and giving yourself infinite CP. I'm not sure why you bother with the jump chain if you do that sort of thing though. You may as well devise everything on your own.
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>>47909311
Probably more powerful than the games would indicate.

Generally people don't get up if something with massive clawed hands slashes their face [citation needed] but they made it something you could get so early in Skyrim that they couldn't have it being a one hit kill on even unarmored opponents.

Conversely in Morrowind it was something that popped up at the end of the last expansion pack so they were extremely tough. I think they totally wreck a legion fort as well at one point and kidnap the two most powerful men on an island. They can also hit things which aren't hurt by normal weapons which is neat.

It's probably more similar to the Morrowind thing as otherwise the garrison in Bloodmoon wouldn't have gotten its shit so thoroughly slapped.
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>>47909547
By the way, if you take MC-kun and get the Six Paths Sage Mode and have the Sharingan does it turn into a Rinnegan like Sasuke? If you already have the Rinnegan, does it give it a large boost in power due to both abilities being from the Six Paths chakra?
Also, I remember that in order to build Hashirama you needed Senju, Ninjutsu Specialization, You Have Reserves, Water and Earth Elements and the Wood Release. What would you need in order to build pre-Rinnegan Madara besides the Sharingan?
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>>47909637
Nice Strawman. From the way that anon phrased it, the Mangoes are the only thing he has trouble with. And isn't Amaterasu crazy strong anyways? Izanagi is the only thing stronger, and that ruins an eye whenever you use it.
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>>47909637
He's just bitching to bitching and spiting to spite. You can't do anything with people like that.
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>>47909658
>What would you need in order to build pre-Rinnegan Madara besides the Sharingan?
Besides the stuff Clan-Born gets free? The Angst drawback.
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>>47907519
>Hayate
"Honey, I lost my targeting assistance, but I'm going to cast anyway."

>Nanoha
"I'm going to take off my limiter for just a second, okay?"

>Legion
"I may have screwed up on my hacking."

>Lady Maria
"I need some of the Old Blood."

>Mordred
"Hey, Mom? There's this girl I really like..."
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>>47909658
1) No. Six Paths Sage Mode wasn't offered as a reward or a way to increase your power, but a way for you to actually be able to injure Kaguya. If you tried to fight her with in jump abilities and didn't have six path's energy she'd just no sell it.
2) Pre rinnegan? Let's see. Fire element, you have reserves, ninjutsu specialty, and the speed specialty probably. Maybe fuinjutsu prodigy as well beings he did a few really spectacular things with them.
>>47909698
I'm really not strawmanning here. He said he'd straight up ignore what doesn't like and pretend it said something else.
And yes. Amterasu and Tsukuyomi are both top tier abilities.
>>47909706
That is the conclusion I've drawn.
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>>47909789
Can't you just, I dunno, offer Kagutsuchi instead of Tsukuyomi if one wishes to have that instead? It would change it up a lil bit at least. Or you could have to approve it on case to case, like that one jump where the powers oddly combine, or how people discuss Jojo powers.

Also, question. That 1% survival rate and 1% success rate, that's assuming I don't use any out of jump genetic shenanigans? Or stuff going beyond regular genetics, that involves magics and such?
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>>47909308
I don't think that at this point of the chain you can be considered 'life'.

You don't have any physiological needs. You won't ever die. And certainly you're not part of a single species anymore.
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>>47909824
>you could have to approve it on case to case
>Actually wanting to get harassed with a million questions every time you post
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>>47909789
>I'm really not strawmanning here. He said he'd straight up ignore what doesn't like and pretend it said something else.
But that's different, because it's a rule he doesn't like as opposed to one he's OK with. Therefore it's a bad analogy and you're strawmanning.
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>>47909837
>He
God, just stop. It's obvious you're trying to defend your indefensible behavior by pretending to be someone else.
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>>47909789
Alternatively you could offer sets of powers for Mangekyou, based on existing ones. Or, you know, create your own sets as jumpmaker and offer them, like Jojo Jump offers some premade Stands.

I mean, that might be best and you could move those creative muscles, see? There was this guy who was cloned genetically, whose Mangekyou gave him telekinesis, see. All the clones got the same Mangekyou, see?

>Sharingan Mafia. Them ending their sentences with "see" gets another meaning.
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>>47909789
I thought that's what Six Paths Sage Mode did? Doesn't it take into account your base parameters in it's enhancements? Isn't that something Sage Mode in general does? And if you're fighting Kaguya, how much would having the Rinnegan in addition to the Six Paths Sage Mode as opposed to just the Six Paths Sage Mode actually help?
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>>47909837
...the worst part is, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, or if you actually don't understand the concept of rules.
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>>47909746
Okay, those first two? Yeah, those would terrify me too.
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>>47909789
can you trigger the mangoes with memory editing abillities? also is there any way to get madara bs invis clones?
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>>47909855
>>47909908
...Wow, sarcasm really doesn't work over the Internet. How is "they're not the same because he likes this one and doesn't like this one" anything but blatant snark?
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>>47909916
Is nanoha really that high power?
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>>47909824
Assume you have kagatsuchi as well. It's basically an extension amterasu anyway.
Extra genetics do help, but not all that well. The extensive manipulation would fuck up your genetic structure no matter how well you did it. You'd be much more likely to know if a structure would kill somebody and all though.
Magic ignores that sort of thing though, so go ahead.
>>47909865
If I made them up people would bitch about it not being real mangoes. I guess I could have done mix and match or choose a canon set of abilities. I think it's fine as is though.
Maybe I will change it to pick a canon set of abilities. Just remind me later.
>>47909891
I honestly doubt that even the author knows exactly how it works.
>>47909961
...because people say similar things seriously?
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>>47909955
No. Genjustu or light release maybe?
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>>47909961
Not those anons, but you must be new.
Sarcasm doesn't translate well into written word, dude.
It's the equivalent of speaking in a complete monotone, with no inflection whatsoever.

Plus, you ignite our collective autism with your attempts at humor.
And it seems like something Scatovore would say. I seriously thought you were actually the shitposter for a minute.
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Anyway, I'm off to work. Post more questions to this post if you have them. I'll get to them when I get back.
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>>47906690
TIME TO UPDATE MY BUILD!
What? I'm not fixing a really stupid mistake I made.
Shut up
Hold onto your asses kids, this build is gonna take multiple posts. THEN I can do the DLC, and reply to various things in the thread

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>>47909994
>>47910035


Arguably, I think quite a majority would be okay with new powers as long as it is explained that they are because mangekyous are unique. You could have canon mangekyou powers be more expensive or something. Or you could have it be a roll for which abilities the jumper gets.

Ah, so Magic Genetic fuckery will work. And copy perks. Roger that.

Anyway, Ninjanon, would you like some help prettying up that jump, with backgrounds, images and all? I am pretty interested in doing that, if you accept help
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>>47910056
Forgot my name.
Also I will need help coming up with Kamen Rider Names for these next 4 Companions

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>>47910075
I wouldn't. Stop trying to force him to change him to appease your autism.
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>>47909981
City busters get thrown around with alarming regularity. It's also a solid power up jump since most but not all characters won't be shooting to kill.

Unless you take In Force and/or enemy drawbacks. Upon which, I ask, why?
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>>47909981
Base power level, before any imports?
She's a walking magitech nuke, which gives her a high rank in the military she belongs to, but also puts her under heavy regulation.
Here's a GIF of her attack power as a child, with very little formal training.
She got bigger after that.
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>>47910035
Are there any rules against becoming the Ten Tails jinchuuriki? And if it is possible, what would be the minimum requirements to do so?
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>>47909994
Man, that literally didn't answer any of my questions. You've already made a ruling on the Sharingan's that isn't strictly canon, so can't you just come to some kind of conclusion? And again, would having the Rinnegan + Six Paths Sage Mode help you at all against Kaguya, as opposed to JUST having Six Paths Sage Mode? Would ANYTHING you can purchase in the jump help besides the plot armor and illusion immunity perks?
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>>47910152
No, Rinnengan.
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>>47910152
Get Ten Tails in your belly.

You could probably just hijack the Sealing Ten Tails into Obito or Madara thing and become a Jinchuriki yourself.

>>47910094
So even if there was an Amaterasu+Kagetsuchi and Tsukuyomi option left after adding additional Mangekyou powers, you would still be against? It wouldn't wreck your build and it makes more sense, as Mangekyou are unique.

Sasuke and Itachi were brothers so this is why they both had Amaterasu.
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>>47910105
>>47910127
Non Lethal City Buster will forever be a hilarious but present oxymoron
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>>47910127
Ok what path of perks lets you shoot those fuck you lasers?
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>>47910200
You're not going to give up until you get your way, are you?
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>>47910200
He literally just said he might change it to let you pick a set of abilites and to remind him of it. Stop poking at him anon.
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>>47910213
Yes. It is an entertaining concept.
Nanoha does at least have the excuse that her targets are coated in anti-nuke super wards, and the local population is sealed in an alternate stasis dimension to prevent collateral casualties.
But still, it is over the top in the best of ways.
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>>47910075
>Anyway, Ninjanon, would you like some help prettying up that jump, with backgrounds, images and all? I am pretty interested in doing that, if you accept help
You'd make me really happy if you did that. I guess I should do a final round of edits and make up my mind on mangoes first though.
But seriously, I'm off to work now.
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>>47910178
You would be much better off having Rinningan than without, Large Reserves is also one of the better picks.
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>>47910248
I'd have to go re-read the jump to tell you.
It's been awhile since I've read it.
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>>47910248
Oh, don't worry, just be a Mid-Childan Style Mage with an Intelligent Device and you'll be fine. Take ZENRYOKU ZENKAI and Potential though, they'll help.

That Fuck You Beam is a simple spell, Starlight Breaker, and it uses the ambient magic to power itself, so it's best used as a Finishing Move or a magically dense area.
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>>47903313
36 Innistrad
Church of Avacyn -300, Angel(Goldnight),
Age 32
Havengul
Avacyn Will Protect You, Benevolent Protection, Warding -100, Gather to Me -100, Archmage -200, Take Shelter Beneath My Wings -300, Sangromancy -400,
Companion Import(Jormanganda/Jorry[Drop-In, Enhanced Senses, A Good Guest, Seeker of Truth -100, Clarity -200, The Magic Found in Stories -300, Silver Dagger, A Scroll Bound in Iron -200, Lab Escape +200, Silver's Bite +200], Tania[Drop-In, Enhanced Senses, A Good Guest, We Must Find Strength in Each Other -200, Silver Dagger, Kessig Wolf Run -200, Moorland Haunt -400, Lab Escape +200, Silver's Bite +200], Akashi[Vampire, Vampiric Body, Falkenrath Pride, Markov Dominance -100, Sangromancy -200, Master Crafted Armour, Master Crafted Weapon, Parasite Blade -300, Decadent Mansion -200, The Dryad's Curse +100, Moonlight Threshold +100, The Thirst +100, Bad Romanian Accent +100], Shimakaze[Vampire, Vampiric Body, Falkenrath Pride, Master Crafted Armour, Master Crafted Weapon, Markov Dominance -100, Voldaren Decadence -100, Stromkirk Guile -200, The Beginning of a Bloodline -300, Enhanced Senses -100, The Dryad's Curse +100, Moonlight Threshold +100, The Thirst +100, Bad Romanian Accent +100], Taiho[Madman, Mad Genius, Cultist, Corruption in the Ranks -200, Geralf's Notes -200, Nephalia Drownyard -200, Alchemist Refuge -200, Lab Escape +200, Silver's Bite +200],
cont
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>>47910370
Bismark[Madman, Mad Genius, Cultist, Stitcher -200, Ghoulcaller -100, Corruption in the Rankes -200, My Masterpiece -300, Lab Escape +200, Silver's Bite +200], Minamihime[Church of Avacyn, Avacyn Will Protect You, Benevolent Protection, Warding -100, Archmage -200, A Good Guest -100, Vault of the Archangel -200, Slayer's Stronghold -200, Lab Escape +200, Silver's Bite +200], Senkanko Kappa[Church of Avacyn -300, Angel(Sigarda), Avacyn Will Protect You, Benevolent Protection, Gather to Me -100, Archmage -200, Blessing -200, Take Shelter Beneath My Wings -300, Lab Escape +200, Silver's Bite +200])-400,
Howlpack Hunt +300, Siblings Game +300, The Thirst +200,
cont
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>>47910382
This place is swarming with bugmen, such a warm welcome laying out this feast for us! After cleaning out the bug infestation, we head out into the wilderness where we begin to be attacked by the zombies and reanimated monstrocities. These things aren't very fun, but at least they go down easily enough and Bismark is repurposing the remains as we speak. Never a dull moment around here, now we are beset by a pack of werewolves. They are kind enough to provide us with a feast. Again and again the corpse hordes come, but we are tracking them back to their origins. Five more times we face the wolves before finding a pair of mad siblings who appear to be arguing about which one gets to kill us and turn us into their once dead chess pieces. Whelp, that answers that, their armies are belong to Bis, while they are now vamps belonging to Shimakaze. Mostly we relax and enjoy the rest of our stay here in Innistrad while enjoying our monthly howlpack feasts and adventuring about doing quests for my book. The place seems to be having some troubles but we mostly manage to avoid those other than the ocasional demon, devil, angel, or religious zealot attack.
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1 Changeling the Lost
2 Actraiser
3 Siren
4 Aquaria
5 Raildex Magic
6 Final Fantasy XIV
7 Darkstalkers
8 God of War
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>>47907121
>>47910081
Mad King DLC-
Claim the Throne
0/1000
Yes, My Lord!
A Familiar Bell
Colors of the Kingx2
The Station of the Alchemists
Free Garden Court Seed
Spare the Blue Knight(She's totally Mezool isn't she. Not Waifuing, but I can't kill someone I could Spare)
Free Loyal Lakes
Spare the Green Knight
Free The Floating Stone
Spare the Red Knight
Free Ever-Raging Furnace
Spare the Yellow Knight
Spare the Grey Knight(All the RP, gone, but I can't kill people I can Spare)
Free The Golden Safe
Fight the Multi-King
Free The Cup of the King
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Rolled 1 (1d8)

>>47910393
and I forgot to roll
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>>47910412
Changeling. I think I can do this, so I'll need a new 1. I hope.
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>>47907860
On my support/healing/companion-oriented chain I ended up with leadership, pain/empathy manipulation, and forcefields. It was actually a pretty important early jump, because it's the first jump aside from the first (PMD, and that jump got hijacked by the benefactor so I didn't have any choice in what to buy) that gave me supernatural powers.
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>>47909994
If you will adding or changing mango abilities than could you include Kamui ?? Pretty please with Louise on top.
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>>47910454
probably the coolest mango power.
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>>47908191
I was making it but have been busy with school work. Should have it written up within a month or two ideally.
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>>47907519
I have a LOT of companions, both Waifus and Non-Waifus.
So I'll just put one


Sans "You're gonna have a bad time"

>>47908496
This is acceptable
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>>47910285
I WILL MAKE YOU PROUD, NINJA!
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>>47910496
Justice log, 6/22/16; 18:12:02 GMT. 12 minutes later than average.
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So Jumpers. If there's anything I like writing or talking about, it's good fight scenes. What, respectively, were your most satisfying or challenging fights?
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>>47907519
>"Jumper, I fucked up"
Nine times out of ten, that means that they did SOMETHING, but now it's gotten too out of control so they have to turn to me for help. Thankfully, it's not always the end of the world.
>"Jumper, I fucked up. But I fixed it and everything is fine now"
This is when I start running.
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>>47910574
Probably Lucifer from Devil Survivor.
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>>47910640
How you beat him
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>>47910248
Theoretically you get that baseline. All you need is an intelligent device.
Nanoha is S-Class, though she did that as a child when she was nowhere near her peak.
To match her growth you'll want 3 ranks of Potential.
And ZENRYOKU ZENKAI so you don't kill everything in its path when you don't want to.
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>>47910574
Besides Symphogear inherently being a rollercoaster and a half like it usually is, I guess the highlight so far is fighting the Century King and Fangire King in Showa Part 2 with a juryrigged Ixa Driver and a Satan Saber
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>>47910574
The hardest fight I've ever had is when I Faced Myself. I basically ended up kicking my own ass up and down the street while my friends frantically threw everything they had at me. It sucked a lot.
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>>47910653
>Digimon hax
>Literally throwing universes worth of energy at him
>Sting+Longinus Lance+Transdimensional Thunderbolts
>Invulnerability to almost everything
>Anti-magic/anti-supernatural perks
>Angel of Death and Warp Spasm combat boosts

And even then, thanks to drawback fiat it was a tough fight and I needed to rely on teamfighting,
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>>47910081
>>47910056
>I have 8 Sidekick Riders
Also Rider names are now
Akitsu:Kamen Rider Auroroa
Yashima:Kamen Rider FINALE
Avacyn:Kamen Rider Dominion(The Angels of Leadership)
Laylamon: Kamen Rider Asmodai

Unless you guys have better suggestions

>>47910573
Don't give me that, I wake up when I wake up.
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>>47910769
The fuck is Sting, anyway?
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>>47910782
One of Worm's powers, and a outdated version of Scion¡s (and the Entities) main weapon to kill tough opponents and other members of their species. It basically does some dimensional bullshit to ignore all defenses not-supernatural and most supernatural defenses.

But thanks to Jumpchain shenanigans, like all of your Worm powers, it keeps getting stronger and stronger with time.
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>>47910827
What is capable of resisting the Sting?
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>>47910782
Power from Worm.

It allows you to dimensionally fold an object over myriad parallel universes so that it exists in all of them.

Because of this, projectiles tell physics to fuck off and don't lose speed or change trajectory due to air resistance and other such things.

More importantly, the movement of the object is tied to all of its parallel versions. That is, if in one reality it moves through an area because there's nothing there, then the version in another reality MUST pass through regardless of any objects there or how durable those objects might be.

Doesn't do so hot against magic, apparently.
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>>47910835
It doesn't destroy really strong magical barriers.

At least the first time you get it.
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>>47910835
Dodging, the woman with it uses a crossbow.
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>>47907121
>spare people
>get yet more companions
Well, looks like I'm going to have to kill people.
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>>47910769
Where's Angel of Death from?
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>>47910891
Warhammer 40k- Imperium of Man.

Also, World Champion from Overlord has a very similar effect, but I went full mage on that Jump.
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>>47910574
Definitely my Stalker in Infamous, on both accounts.
He was like a cross between Joseph Joestar, and Hannibal Lecter, with light based conduit powers. The horror. The horror.
He almost beat me, too. He got me mad and careless, and lured me out into a mine field.
BANG!
The only reason we made it was the fact that he had assumed that my "flying sword" was a part of me. He was right, but in the wrong way.
And so my BFF became my Waifu by impaling a psycho killer, and sword suplexing him onto a landmine. Face first.

She float-limped back over to me, plopped down into what was left of my lap, and we had a giggle as JC showed up with that stupid look on her [FACE].
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>>47909831
while I concede that I am a meta-entity beyond traditional notions of geology, astrophysics, mortality, software engineering, biology, spirituality, and biology I was not at the point in my chain I had a kid. and I'm pretty sure that would apply to mostly gain jumpers. and I'm certainly not inanimate,dead or undead. so we are running Out of words for States of being
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>>47910574
I really need to work on writing fight scenes, but I've had a few good ones. I would talk about my favorite from LoT except it was neither satisfying or challenging, just hilarious.

One of the most challenging was Chrono Trigger back in Jump 4. We were nowhere near prepared enough to tackle Lavos in the Ocean Palace, but we managed to pull it off by combining forces with the True Heroes. I can't take too much credit for that win though. It was more dumb luck than anything else.

Satisfying had to be Borderlands. Handsome Jack is such a little shit and it felt /way/ too good to totally wreck his day repeatedly. Every time he thought about rebuilding, we'd find out where he was and roflstomp all over everything on the way to meet him and crush his plans.
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>>47910574
Probably should have answered my own question in the same post. I think I told this story already in a different thread, so I'll be brief unless someone wants full detail.

Taking The Other Chousin One is an awful idea and I don't reccomed it to anyone, otherwise driving the ex to her home planet will turn into fighting the God-Emperor of Jurai. Not Tenchi, for that matter.
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>>47911008
A mine hurt you? Don't you habe durability perks?
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About Nanoha, if take the Book of Darkness drawback with the No Linker Core one, do I immediately die or will take magic from another magical sources if I have more than one?
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>>47911418
Chains don't inexplicably start with several builds done already, anon.
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>>47911456
Infamous actually has a pretty decent durability perk. Regeneration too.
They're no that impressive in the grand scheme of things, but good for an early-chain jump.
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>>47911418
It was my second jump, directly after Pokemon Trainer. I didn't even have any fluffy tails yet.
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Why does the Gothic jump only have 3 things at a discount for drop ins? Like I wanna go drop in but then I can't exactly get much from it.
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>>47911506
Well, yeah.

But mines are still pretty far above walking off a bunch of bullets and healing it all once you catch your breath.
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>>47911506
And that's how I survived stepping on a brick of military grade HE.
Fucked me up, though.
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>>47911456
>>47911524
That makes sense. I feel dumb.
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>>47911544
Not really, mines are dangerous based on the sheer amount of shrapnel and each piece is far less dangerous than a bullet. They are like grenades in that respect, even with just the infamous durability perk it is likely that you could walk away from a common frag mine with only minor injury.
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>>47911544
Anti-personnel mines don't actually do that much damage.
Stepping on one just generally means you get your legs shredded, including your arteries, so you quickly bleed out.
A mid-high caliber bullet has a lot more force behind it.

It probably wouldn't be any fun even with durability and regen, but it should be survivable.
Of course in a fight it means your opponent gets a big opening to finish you off.
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>>47911627
>>47911635
Are you people this autistic that you can't handle someone elses story because it makes you feel weak?
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>>47911660
We're just talking about what the perk is likely to cover.
The only autist here is you.
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>>47911679
>The only autist here is you.
I'm pretty sure that's not an accurate statement. We're a 4chins board, anon.
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>>47911660
No, that person even said that it happened during their second jump before getting any perks like this. I am just refuting that those durability/regen perks wouldn't help against your average mine, coming across a frag mine isn't dangerous for anyone who it has bullet resistant durability unless they do something stupid like lay on top of it.
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>>47910574
Speedster ras al gul in arrowverse, took speedster and the demon drawback and used tech to help me kill 4 speedsters before he turned up. I had expect another cocky but dangerous speedster that had experience but hadnt developed specialized superspeed combat and would have trouble if i cheated, instead i got an speedster ninja with more experience than i had that had already killed multiple versions of vibe and had solution tech. we fought 3 times the second was probably the closest that i have come to death in chain and what pushed me to the limits of my speed force trying to escape him after he utterly destroyed me in hand to hand. the third round with him i brought literally all my gear with me and fucked with time to keep up with him while using an axe to keep my distance until he made a mistake. he survived but cleaving his arm off was one of the most satisfying moments of my chain and the bomb i used to kill him while he was getting it replaced was one of my favorite pieces of tech.
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>>47911719
Point taken. It sounded better in my head.

>>47911726
Well, given that the stalker from the drawback has the same powers as you i'd say durability + regen just makes the fight take longer and gives you both a little more margin for error, but it won't give you an advantage.
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Would the Thing Thing perk that lets you hot swap clothes from your warehouse also let you do the same with armor? Like power armor?
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>>47911726
Who cares? It's the badwrongfun argument all over again.
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>>47911792
The discussion about the power of the perk was only tangentially related to the posted story.
You're overreacting.
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>>47909042
if you really want Saitama to have fun summon him in teen titans and show him Trigon.
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>>47911627
>>47911635
Huh. Thanks anon.

The more you know, I guess.
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>>47911788
True but anti personnel mines would be unlikely to decide the fight, they would hurt like hell and provide an opening but that is about it.
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>>47911791
Depends whether or not you consider your armor to be an outfit.

Personally, I'd say yes.
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>>47911833
If your explosives don't do enough damage you're not using enough of them.
That's pretty basic anon.

And landing face-first on one will still fuck you up. Try not to do that.
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>>47910370
>>47910382
>>47910393
37 Changeling the Lost
Seoul, South Korea – Theme: Foot Loose – Mood: Changing Times
Child -50
Age at Abduction 16 years, Time Spent in Arcadia 34 years, Time passed on Earth 5 Months,
Fairest, Telluric, Minstrel, Dancer,
The Spring Court
Mental Focus,
Wyrd 3/10 -300, Glamour, Clarity 10/10 -200, 2xAnother Kith -200, Hollow, Oneiromancer -100, Mantle -300,
Fairy Garden -50, Street Clothing, Cell Phone,
Companion Import to Changeling(Kissiae[Socialite, Fairest, Flowering, Social Focus, Wyrd 1/10, Glamour, Clarity 8/10, Polyglot, Faerie Healing -100, Hollow -25, Contract of Thorns and Brambles: Rank 1 Clause: Bite of the Wooden Fang -75, Cell Phone, Street Clothing], Bismark[Drop-In, Wizened, Brewer, Wyrd 1/10, Glamour, Clarity 8/10, Brownie's Boon -100, Barfly -100, Hollow -25, Contracts of Dream: Rank 1 Clause: Pathfinder -75; Cell Phone, Street Clothing, Glamour Addiction +100], Ruari[Professor, Fairest, Shadowsoul, Mental Focus, Wyrd 1/10, Glamour, Clarity 8/10, Eidetic Memory, Oneiromancer -100, Hollow -25, Contracts of Darkness: Rank 1 Clause: Creeping Dread -50; Cell Phone, Street Clothing, Stabapple -25], Morgan[Professor, Fairest, Succubus, Mental Focus, Wyrd 1/10, Glamour, Clarity 8/10, Eidetic Memory, Hollow -25, Encyclopedic Knowledge -150, Cell Phone, Street Clothing, Coupnettle -25], Idona[Socialite, Fairest, Telluric, Social Focus, Wyrd 1/10, Glamour, Clarity 8/10, Polyglot, Hollow -25, Cell Phone, Street Clothing, Homespinner's Needle -50, Healing Fruit -25, Amaranthine -50, Fear Gortach -50], Jormanganda/Jorry[Professor, Elemental, Apsara, Mental Focus, Wyrd 1/10, Glamour, Clarity 8/10, Eidetic Memory, Allies -150, Hollow -25, Cell Phone, Street Clothing, Compact Car -25],
Cont
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>>47911865
Hylda[Socialite, Fairest, Draconic, Social Focus, Wyrd 1/10, Glamour, Clarity 8/10, Polyglot, Hollow -25, Cell Phone, Street Clothing, Fancy Clothing -25, Hedgespun Wardrobe -150], Misa[Police Officer, Fairest, Weisse Frau, Physical Focus, Wyrd 1/10, Glamour, Clarity 8/10, Danger Sense, Hollow -25, Cell Phone, Street Clothing, Fake Police Badge -75, The Murmuring Coin -50, Bilefruit -50])-200, I actually like my companions(Tarja[Police Officer, Physical Focus, Danger Sense, Rising Star -100, Hollow -25, Cell Phone, Street Clothing, Fake Police Badge -75], Hikaru[Professor, Mental Focus, Eidetic Memory, Hollow -25, Bus -125, Cell Phone, Street Clothing, Bloodroot -50], Allspark/Alice[Socialite, Social Focus, Polyglot, Hollow -25, Full-sized Car -75, Cell Phone, Street Clothing, Gallowsroot -50, Hidefruit -50], Branwen[Professor, Mental Focus, Eidetic Memory, Hollow -25, Cell Phone, Fake Press Pass -50, Street Clothing, Fancy Clothing -25, Cell Phone -100], Rei[Professor, Mental Focus, Eidetic Memory, Hollow -25, Cell Phone, Fake Press Pass -50, Street Clothing, Fancy Clothing -25, Cell Phone -100], Cassie[Socialite, Social Focus, Polyglot, Striking Looks -100, Hollow -25, Cell Phone, Street Clothing, SUV/Pick-Up -75], Liv[Child, Social Focus, Precocious -100, Hollow -25, Cell Phone, Street Clothing, Full-sized Car -75], Yui[Professor, Mental Focus, Eidetic Memory, Encyclopedic Knowledge -150, Hollow -25, Cell Phone, Street Clothing, Fancy Clothing -25])-200,
Glamour Addiction +100, IT'S TIME TO D-D-D-D-DUEL +200, Annoying Bane(Salt)+300,
cont
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>>47911861
Well yes, do not lay on top of a mine, the explosion is just a way to spread the shrapnel in most cases but throwing yourself on top of it (such as to protect others from the shrapnel) would still probably kill you even with a lot more durability. If a firecracker blows up on your palm it will just hurt but if you close your hand around it that hand is fucked and being on top of a mine is doing the same thing to a much bigger explosion.
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Rolled 8 (1d8)

>>47911865
>>47911877
Well, this place sucks, I'm constantly getting challenged and it's pretty annoying but I get by. Thing that annoys me the most is that I can't have salt in my food, and then there are the supernatural fans throwing it about all willy nilly, not to mention the folks that actually use it with purpose. At least there are interesting things here to learn and acquire like contracts and goblin fruits. Grow every type of Goblin Fruit in the Fairy Garden. Over the course of my time here I initiate and learn to fully utilize the following contracts: Contracts of Dream, Contracts of Vainglory, Contracts of Separation, Contract of Fleeting Spring, Contract of Eternal Spring, Contract of Verdant Spring. By the time it is time to go, I've managed to raise my Wyrd to match my Clarity which I have maintained at its highest level. None of my friends lost their clarity and they all managed to raise their Wyrd to an extent though not as well as I have.
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1 Mushoku Tensei
2 Actraiser
3 Siren
4 Aquaria
5 Raildex Magic
6 Final Fantasy XIV
7 Darkstalkers
8 God of War
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>>47911916
Out of the frying pan into the fire. God of War, here I come. I need a new 8.
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>>47911931
Girl Genius
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>>47911951
queued
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>>47911951
>Girl Genius
Clockpunk Corsetry: The Jump
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>>47907519
"Honey. I'm not going to hold back - and you're not going to hold me back. Okay?" - Seras

"Where'd Hildibrand go?" - Anybody and everybody

"IT'S TRANSMOGRIFYING TIME!" - Any of the Gilgameshes

"Boss. I just want you to know, they aren't dead." - Adam Jensen

"Dad? Whatever you do, please don't freak out." - Any of my four daughters.

"[Various rapping noises]." - Killer B

"Boss. Boss, me bruva's gone nuts again." - Medium Dave

"Boss. Boss, me bruva's gone nuts again." - Blind 'Arry

"From dawn... till dusk... ECLIPSE CANNON!" - Lady Lightning
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I wonder if Cell Medals are magnetic.
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>>47912113
well a guy picks them up with a purely mechanical drill and crane and they stick to it so they probably are
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>>47912113
>>47912202
but of course I'm not the jump maker,I'm just a guy who watched every episode of the series and the movies so you shouldn't take my word as the final word.
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>>47912113
Considering the Birth System has to specialize in grabbing medals and its in fact made of medals?

Probably not
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>>47912202
Pretty sure Birth doesn't qualify as purely mechanical. And there's no evidence of his cell medal attraction working via magnets.
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>>47912093
>"[Various rapping noises]."
Why is this so hazardous to my sides?
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>>47912093
>"Where'd Hildibrand go?"

Why is this scary?
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What jumps that are being made are you most exited about?

What jumps that haven't been made do you most want?
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>>47912475
I think someone picked up Sonic SatAM a couple threads ago so I'm waiting for that.

I need that Roboticizer.
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>>47907519
[Muffled sounds of "Ride of the Valkyries" on 8-track interspersed with helicopter sounds] - Venom Snake
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>>47912315
Because you know the lethality and hilariousness of Sensei B's rapping skills.

For those uneducated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT5ccCjKrB0

>>47912438
because where Hildibrand goes unsupervised, DISASTER STRIKES!

Seriously, he damn near ruined the heist in Revenant Wings by running off to investigate.
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>>47907519
Koulema, who I picked up in Dragonlance, is a lich, right? And he joined basically because, as companion to a jumper, he's straight up immortal.
He also gets to go from world to world and learn magic, and I tend to outright neglect my companions so he gets a lot of alone time to do lichy things. It's basically win/win, as long as this chain keeps a'rollin'.
In fact, it would be less accurate to say he is loyal to ME, and more to say he is loyal to Jump-chan.

On the plus side, this means he is 100% interested in keeping me alive at all times no matter what. On the downside, this means that he has no patience for any of my storytime bullshit.
Normally, Koul doesn't like to get involved with... whatever the fuck it is I'm doing that day. Before he became unkillable he was actually pretty cowardly, and nowadays it just eats into his study time. Koul is a D&D Wizard with a capital 'W', an interest in gaining power, and far better at jumping "The Right Way" than I am.
If he ever says something like,
> "Then I shall have to get involved."
It means that all sense of whimsy is about to disappear very quickly.

But in his favor,
He totally rocks the Death Reverb.
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>>47912507
Is it bad that I don't find Killer Bee's Rapping that bad?
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>>47912475
Pretty sure someone has their eye on Uber, which has me full of latent hype.
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>>47912528
Yes, that is a sign of mental deficiency and/or poor taste.
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>>47912528
As far as rhyme and meter go, it's actually not that bad, no.

Subject matter just makes it bloody hilarious though.
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Jumpers, is it odd that no chain I have done makes it past 300 jumps? Not because of death or failure, but lack of material. Either setting suck (IMO), the jump sucks (IMO), or both. Thus I grab an end jump and start over.
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>>47912553
>poor taste
Wouldn't be the first time someone said that to me.
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>>47912475
Exalted/ Generic Musical Theatre.
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>>47912475
Konosuba
Black Crusade
Protoss Campaign
Divinity 2
Kamen Rider Heisei
Ravnica
Exalted
Adam West Batman
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>>47912507
That. That. That was glorious.
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>>47912619
Not really anon. Some people have chains that are only 10-20 jumps long and then they just go home, some people will jump every jump there is and wait for more to be made. Jumpchain needs all sorts of people for all sorts of chains.
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For the Innistrad Jump, if I take "All Hail Gitrog" does the part about not having my previous powers and warehouse continue for the rest of the jump after I've already slain the gitrog?
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How dangerous are the Masters in History's Strongest Disciple? Is the mandatory drawback for taking a master from Ryozanpaku a death sentence early chain?
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>>47912619
I still can't decide if my main chain should end after 25. The only thing still driving the character is the desire to see other worlds. He literally does not care about the power he's gathering. Most of the time he just shuts a lot of them off and runs under In-Jump powers.
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>>47911931
What's with 8s? I rolled 8 for starting location in jump, any suggestions for where I should start god of war?
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>>47912725
They won't deliberately try to kill you, but it will be strenuous.
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>>47912475
Super hyped about Trigun. I love that fucking show. Not quite sure if I'm going to go with the anime or Maximum Overedge though.
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>>47912475
For some reason I really want a Donkey Kong Jump
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>>47912767
Speaking of Trigun we have seen a lot of jumps where an origin's basic characteristics have been used as capstones, rather than including them with the origin and raising its cost to match.
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>>47912517
On a more whimsical note, I've got Bass, right? I picked him up from Megaman Megamix. He's... well, he's Bass.
I make no secret that I'm an unapologetic fangirl, so I'm not... really... good at curbing tendencies. If anything, I'm an enabler. So, Bass is Bass.

Bass joined because he wanted to become stronger. The strongest robot. And I, in my infinite wisdom, said "WHY THE FUCK NOT?!", and set about making him the strongest robot a jumper can possibly make. He IS the super prototype. I want you to imagine Vegeta, and then imagine that some batshit fuck crazy scientist was just handing him upgrades whenever he asked for them. And whenever they thought of them. And just whenever. That's my Bass.
Of course, the only way this works is because I'm a technopath who can basically turn Bass off at a whim. But... the truth is? I hate doing that.
And Bass knows I hate doing that.
It's just so MEAN. I guess I've just internalized a pretty strong villainous sense of fair play.
So it's only for emergencies.

Over time we've sortof developed a feel for each other's limits. And Bass likes to push them. He's still Bass.
Sometimes I give him orders, and sometimes he follows them! And sometimes he does his own thing. And sometimes he decides he's going to fight the strongest guy in the setting for kicks, even though it'll fuck up everything. And sometimes, I'll tell him to stop.
And he'll look at me and say,
> "Then stop me."

..

> "Yeah. That's what I thought."
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>>47912820
I have it on good authority that someone is working on that.
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>>47912830
WOOHOO!
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>>47912475
Jumps I'm excited for and are being made: Exalted, Ravnica, Zendikar, Tarkir, Eclipse Phase, Black Crusade, Orks, Leviathan, Trigun, Star Wars OT

As for stuff that haven't been made: Gloryhammer, Lilo&Stitch, Pixar movies, Dexter's Lab, Powerpuff Girls, Metroid, Ninja Turtles

I want a lot of stuff.
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>>47912823
To be fair that was a work in progress, and the jump is going to be pretty heavily changed when the jumpmaker starts including stuff from the manga, especially since the manga expands on what Plants are capable of.
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>>47912895
>Metroid
This would be great, especially if there is a Samus companion option. . . Well as long as it is amazon bounty hunter Samus rather than Other M Samus.
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>>47912823
>a lot

Chill the fuck out, it's mostly Witcher that that's a problem. You're still maintaining your fucking salt parade.
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>>47907519
The most "terrifying" thing one of my companions can say to me is "What the hell, Jumper?!" or some variation of that. It usually means I've crossed the line from cartoonish evil to straight up evil. Which is a bad thing.
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>>47912895
Who's making Tarkir again?
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>>47912919
That's good but I was more speaking in general, a bunch of anons threw a fit about this subject yesterday over the Witcher jump doing something like that (among other things).
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>>47912823
This is a good thing. It means you can decide to skip the capstone if you don't want the most powerful characteristics of the race, and means you can pick up the super-powerful things the race can do without being locked into one particular race. How is that a problem?
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>>47912984
TopHatAlthalus, I believe.
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>>47912475
Incredibly hyped for Black Crusade.
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So, I was looking over the Fairy Tail Jumpchain because it was updated recently, and seems rather half-assed, like the maker does not know how jumpchains work.

The new advantage "Lacrima Creator" is dumb written because "Of course, you could theoretically learn to do this in your

time here, but this gift ensures that you may form Lacrima from the magical energies of
other worlds" The thing being, this stuff HAS to work with things from other worlds, or it is useless in a jumpchain. If you normally can only use Fairy Tail techniques with 'ethernano' that means all those spell do not work out of jump... Charging for something necessary for there to even be a valid jump is really bad design,

There is no free skill 100CP for any of the Identities you pay CP for, and some of them are missing discounts for 400CP and 600CP tiers.

The random rolling of powers makes no sense at all. It works in barely Worm because they are super powers you have no conscious control over usually, but these are spells to are taught or learn in school. Random needs to go because it is not really part of the setting, just the author being wierd.

Everything is overpriced compared to other jumps, this gut does not know how to make a 1000cp Perk worth 1,000 CP, OR how to write the skills so you know all they can do. He added "Rules of the Area" which is NOT a S class ability by itself as written or by itself, because the ability would not really have any offensive of defensive ability. Now apparently it is also supposed to let the user use spacial magic freely in its range and encompass other spacial magic inside, doing things like teleporting around, reflexively banish anyone attempting a spacial effect to a pocket dimension, etc. That might be S-Class. But OP never said that.
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>>47912475
Girls und Panzer goes in both fields.

Elite Dangerous would be...interesting as a jump. Full disclosure: I just want sum supercruise/hyperspace
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>>47913243
Fairy Tail Jumpchain Review pt.2

The Items are Blah. Items are supposed to be stuff iconic and unique, and if not should be replenishing. Like the Small Lacrima Crystal. Can it be bought in shops, yes. Can it be depleted, yes. Why are you charging CP for it? Also, money, why 100CP, cut the jewels in half and CP in half so it is 50CP and easy to add to round something out.

The text for the +600 disadvantages adding together to +800CP just sounds like the author having a masturbation session and posting it on the internet. The most asshole PK in the setting hates you, sure, worth +600. Copies of your powers in Materia form fall randomly, and more powerful ones are more likely to be found by people who would not like your personality, sure, +600.

Those two disadvantages dovetail well enough as it is. Adding that taking both together is only worth +200 more and gives the PK guy ALL of your powers is just derpy. Since he really hates you, he will have your most powerful power anyway. Just let taking one of those let you take another disadvantage for full points, because having both together is more like a +1000-1200 disadvantage, not a +800 one.

Also, the +300 Gate of the Jumper is another badly written for no reason charm. Being a Celestial able to be summoned and commanded is ONE +300 disadvantage. Not having your powers is a SEPARATE +300-600 CP drawback. And there is no reason why being a celestial would mean "most of your powers are gone" What was the author thinking when he wrote this?
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>>47913243
>>47913268
Nobody wants your shitty vitriol-fueled 'reviews'.
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>>47913243
You can learn to make Lacrima that follow the rules of Fairy Tail magic for free. But if you buy it, you can learn to make Lacrima using ANY magic system. That's worth the price.
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>>47913291
He's one more person who'd like to see the rolling gone.

That's enough for me to tolerate his needless salt overload.
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>>47913243
>>47913268
God it feels like the jump personally insulted you, kicked your dog, and raped your grandmother with how angry you're getting.
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>>47913243
The Lacrima complaint is pretty stupid, and I'm not really sure what the hell you're talking about with the drawbacks, but I actually agree with you on the rolling not making much sense. I agree that some of the 1000 cp perks are overpriced compared to how strong they actually are in the setting, and some of them should at least be discounted for certain origins, since they ARE skills.
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>>47913294
No, it's not worth the price. You can do better than it with Conjoined Conjures.
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>>47913268
Permanent salt overload.
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Oh boy, here we go.
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>>47913365
Why? I'd rather have the option to roll for a discount than have no option but to pay full price to choose. Getting rid of rolling won't reduce the price to the rolling numbers, you know.
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>>47913411
>This perk should be cheaper because this perk from an entirely different setting is stronger.
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>>47912475
Being made: Black Crusade, Star Wars OT and TOR, all the SMT jumps.

Haven't been made: Dominions, I want that to be a jump so badly, a Magi Nation jump would also be cool.
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>>47913427
>this perk is overpriced compared to this other perk, meaning no one in their right mind will ever purchase it.
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>>47913411
...You know not everyone takes that perk, right? And that it's stupid to write a Jump assuming everyone has bought a perk from another Jump? Now that's bad design.
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>>47913442
Doesn't matted. Different jumps.
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>>47913440
Oh, wow. I forgot that existed until you mentioned it. Yes, Magi Nation now, please.
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>>47913440
Tell us about Magi Nation.
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>>47913442
>why would you buy super strength from any Jump besides Young Justice?
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>>47913243
>>47913268

Almost makes you wish they'd just handed it off to someone else, like with Eldar, amirite?
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>>47913414
You're not kidding, I'm getting high blood pressure just reading this.
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>>47913411
>>47913442
That's now how Jump balance works, dingus.

>>47913422
I would rather have the full price, end of story.

Luck based discounts are bullshit, and just make me slot in another jump before whatever jump has it, so I can re-roll until I get what I actually want.
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>>47913487
Well I and others disagree. I like the discount, my build would be impossible otherwise.
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If you have a stronk soul would you be able to eventually use FMA alchemy like Hohenheim and Father? Using your powerful soul as fuel? Are there any perks that are good for letting your soul recover from shit like this?
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>>47913500
Why would you need a strong soul to use alchemy like Hohenheim and Father?
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>>47913497
I understand, and will (if the possibiliy of the roll being removed ever becomes more than zero) argue that the discounted cost should become the base price, rather than simply ask that it be removed.
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>>47913487
>I would rather have the full price, end of story.
>Please remove this optional thing which doesn't harm me in any way, it's triggering my autism.
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>>47913480
Wow, I was unaware we had a sale on Smug Asshole today.
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>>47913513
Because their alchemy is fueled by a shit ton of souls, their bodies are essentially giant philosophers stones. We know from watching Ed that you can use your own soul as a replacement for a stone so a sufficiently stronk soul would be able to take the place of the stones for similarly bullshit levels of transmutation.
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>>47913487
>Luck based discounts are bullshit
I have to agree with this, it just seems like a way to make people pay more for perks without actually raising the prices. And I don't think anyone except those who don't care about the powers offered or those with rp builds actually roll for powers and just buy the one they want.
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>>47913529
I just wish the discount was a full discount rather than just 100 points off the price, as it stands you would have to be dumb to roll.
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>>47913476
Fun video game, not a bad card game, shit anime.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magi_Nation_(video_game)
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>>47913243
>is dumb written
>It works in barely Worm
>this gut does not know
>spacial effect
>be stuff iconic and unique
>badly written for no reason charm
You're making it real hard to take you seriously here.
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>>47913268
Have you ever considered that a lot of the supposed problems are artifacts of it being a REALLY old Jump?

As in "we weren't even at Thread 200" old?
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>>47913639
Cool Cats still updates his jumps, I don't see why other people can't.
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>>47913639
So why wasn't the update bringing it up to proper current standards.
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>>47913662
Because that would involve so heavily retooling the base mechanics of the Jump that EVERY build would be broken in half and hot-glued back together.

Do you REALLY think the maker would want to deal with the salt from THAT?
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>>47913440
Apple taxi cheesecake!

>>47913265
>Girls und Panzer
Second. I generally /k/on levels, but I need me some T-34, and I need to make it even more bulbous and dumb. It will be beautiful.

>>47912475
All of them. Yes, even /that/ one.

I could go for an Upotte jump. Guns are fun people.
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>>47913601
I asked you, anon. If I wanted to read a wiki I would have done that.
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>>47913243
>>47913268
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>>47913679
So Red and CCDT can get away with it, but not Wakfu?
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>>47913710
>not using the spess mehren one
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>>47913698
Not that anon, and I don't help lazy faggots.
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>>47913693
>generally *suppress my* /k/on levels
I missed two in a row there. I should probably go get some coffee...
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>>47913679
It's like I can already hear the screaming, as though from a great distance.
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>>47913738
Oh boy here we go.
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>>47913749
Straight out of /a/ I see.
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>>47913698
Basically, it's Pokémon with a dash of Undertale.
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>>47913601
Notably it had a cartoon made. Do not watch the cartoon, it's terrible and mangles the setting. It came years after the actual setting. There's an old fansite up and I have a module for Lackey that contains the cards.
http://bluefurok.com/
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ah1d3qaqh91f811/magination.zip
Sadly Lackey refuses to work on my computer any more.
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Rolled 6 (1d8)

>>47911865
>>47911877
>>47911916
38 God of War
Cliffs of Marathon
Divinity
Age 900
Epic Poem, Scowl of Sparta, Resplendent Form, Resplendent Monument -50, Glorious Repairs -100, Power of Names -200, Borrowed Aspect(Light)-200, Embodiment of Evil(Lust)-300, Titan's Blood(Theia Euryphaessa)-500,
Attire, Eyes of Thunder, Nemesis Whip -200, Eyes of Truth, Hallowed Temple(Me/My Portfolio)-150,
Trying Something New(Sword of the Endless[Boomerang -50fp, Self-Repair -100, Bound -100, Resizing -100fp, Super Sharp -150fp])-50, Double or Nothing(Nemesis Whip[Repurpose -50fp, Eternal -50fp, Bound -100fp, Resizing -100fp, Cursed -200fp])-50,
Titanic Torment +300, Everyone's Useless +200, Lazy Mortal! +200, Puzzles Everywhere +100,
This place is ridiculous, I have Titans talking to me in my head, Gods calling me a mortal and telling me to do things and noone seems particularly competent unless they are against me. I regret not getting a helvault back in Innistrad to just seal away all the annoying gods in. Who knew I would come to regret not getting one just a couple short decades later? I think I'll be spending most of my time here in the bar when I'm not out questing and dealing with the inevitable obnoxious puzzles.
Continue
No where near enough points to get even close to most of what I wanted.
1 Mushoku Tensei
2 Actraiser
3 Siren
4 Aquaria
5 Raildex Magic
6 Final Fantasy XIV
7 Darkstalkers
8 Girl Genius
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>>47912711
yes shadows drawbacks are meant to be hard.
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>>47913808
You know you're supposed to say something before you post that right?
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>>47913823
Oh gods a gargantuan jump of insane proportions. This one will take a while, it's off to Final Fantasy XIV. I'll need a new 6. Eventually.
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>>47913852
no,I'm staying out of this one
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Btoom jump?
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>>47913866
Thing Thing.
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>>47913873
No you idiot the meme works by saying an unpopular opinion or something, THEN posting the image.
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>>47913882
queued
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>>47913911
seriously? I misinterpreted that completely.
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>>47913763
Where's that picture from?
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>>47913972
Silly banchô.
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>>47913972
One of the more common ones is
"I don't think women should about their children" then they post the image.

It's a way of saying "I have an unpopular opinion, but I don't care enough to try to force it on people"
It's also very passive aggressive.
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>>47914010
Yes I am very silly and bad at being/understanding a person,understanding/having emotions etc.
>>47914023
I knew it was passive-aggressive and I did not make the other connection

Have an updated Build with me actually going through and reading much much more and being more Detailed
http://pastebin.com/8ggGCtuJ
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>>47913738
Wakfu COULD get away with it, he'd just have to deal with the salt for a thread (maybe two max).
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>>47913880
Barsoom jump?
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>>47914125
Btoom, it is a death game manga/anime. A bunch of people are stuck on an island, given a bag of grenades, and told that they have to kill each other if they want to return to society.
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>>47914125
>>47913880
Rule zero and Btoom is actually its own thing about Breasts and fancy explosions if memory serves.
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>>47914125

God I would love a barsoom jump but how would you even do it? Base human is OP in that setting. Also black people are evil and the princess of hotness is spoken for.

Ignore the other post you saw nothing
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>>47912475
Surprisingly looking forward to Leviathan & NWOD, even though I haven't had a good experience with WOD games irl.
I'm looking forward to all the others, but especially Warframe, Black Crusade, DDS part 2, Metroid & Knights of Sidonia.

>What jumps that haven't been made do you most want?
X-Files
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>>47914162
Fuck you, now I'm hungry.
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>>47914179
I could give writhing a Btoom Jump a shot, it might suck but it also might be awesome.
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>>47914221
You saw nothing....

There was nobreason to get hungry.
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>>47913154
Because it's a fundamental attribute of that race, and therefore it makes literally no since for a member of that race not to have it.
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>>47914233
that's how it always is
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>>47910200
This stupid eyeball bullshit is fucking gay, and I'm supporting it remaining the same just on general principle.
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>>47914281
What the fuck kind of an argument is that?
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>>47914162
>Also black people are evil
So, same as real life then?
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>>47914242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M6qAMMqFhI
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>>47914242
Why do you have a recipe for bacon soup?
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>>47914320
Oh hi /pol/!
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>>47914315
The kind that stems from having read >>47910075 where the asshole had the nerve to speak on my behalf, and ESPECIALLY >>47907995 which reads like an unironic, even more autistic version of that goddamn Madara Uchiha pasta.
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>>47914357
Because it was highlighted from giving it to someone else when I clicked copy paste on my notepad. I AM NOT A CLEVER MAN. Forgive me.

Is a good recipe though.
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>>47914251
>so this race costs 100 CP, but its unique ability is a capstone for 600, discounted to 300
>no! Make it 400 and remove the capstone!
I will never get this attitude.
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>>47914381
Ah, so your position is one of pure spite?
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>>47914381
So not a concern about the jump itself, just spite towards a random anon?
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>>47914413
it's a matter of fluff versus crunch,by having it separate the crunch contradicts the fluff whereas if it's 400 the fluff and the crunch are consistent.
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>>47914413
The ability should be part of the race and making it that origin's capstone means that the origin doesn't get a capstone.
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>>47914445
So, autism.

>>47914453
You're assuming it would get a separate capstone.
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>>47914438
Well, there's also the fact I'm perfectly fine with the perk as it currently is and I don't particularly understand why there needs to be so much autism about it.

>>47914425
But, well. You're not wrong.
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>>47913842
thanks, but my misgivings about it aren't about difficulty, I just find "you lose all your stuff" drawbacks really boring. if I wanted to ignore all my work to date in my chain, I'd just play a regular CYOA.

I'd rather see my powers nerfed via drawback than lose them. or see my foes buffed to my level.
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>>47914470
Not autism, just not generating a bizarre inconsistency between the setting and the jump. You know, how people prefer their jumps to be made?
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>>47912475

Chronicles of Riddick, Street Fighter, Generic Classic Literature, Megamind, Malazan: Book of the Fallen, Exalted
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>>47914500
I'm OK with bizarre inconsistencies if they make for a more interesting Jump with more meaningful choices. I'm sorry that you'd prefer a less interesting Jump with fewer choices.
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>>47914471
The perk as it is doesn't accurately represent one of the few ways in which the Sharingan actually works in a consistent manner. And its not so much as a necessity, so much as the change would make the jump better than it was before by more accurately representing the setting, and there's no actual reason NOT to change it.
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>>47913693
I knew I liked you for a reason.

That being said, ahem T-34 A SHIT, 90MM STRONK

And that has been your daily dose of shitpost, brought to you by /k/. Remember, it's a magical place.
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>>47912475
Still very hyped for that Journalism jump. I'm still holding out hope.

I'm also holding out hope that someone picks up Engine Hearts.
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>>47914362
Never trust them, sneaking around at night, traveling in gangs, mugging the small and weak for their bling.
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>>47914535
Sure there is. It requires Ninjanon to make up a bunch of OC powers, or give guidelines for OC powers so people don't go "you didn't say I couldn't, so my Mango lets me teleport back in time any time I would be defeated." Both of those things are a lot more work than you seem to think they are.
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>>47914470
I hate to use the Witcher as an example because it is pointless to have that argument again without the Jumpmaker here but that is the jump that sparked this recent argument.

Basically the Jumpmaker made an OC "New" Witcher as an origin and this New Witcher lacks most of the cool stuff that Witchers have. Becoming a real Witcher costs a total of 600 points, has no real capstone, and is still weaker than what a sage/sorceress gets with their 200 point origin. Many anons have gotten really pissy about this.
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>>47914494
sorry then its a clash on personal opinion i find the they are suddenly able to fight jumper regardless of everything else drawbacks arbitrary a lot of the time.
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>>47914535
Well, I disagree and I think the idiot suggesting it is just a chronic autist trying to complain his way into being able to wank custom powers based on what I'd read from that conversation.

>>47914563
>we wuz literally kangz
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>>47914582
Then the problem is with the balance of the Capstone. Maybe it should be a 400 CP option, and something better should replace it.
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>>47913500
>>47913565
Neon Genesis Evangelion Angels have a combined Mind/Body/Soul perk, Waveform Anatomy for only 100CP. You can heal Soul by healing body/mind, heal body by mind/soul, and mind by soul.body. They also have a combat speed regeneration perk (Improved Regeneration, 400CP), and a perk that lets you make technology from the metaphysical technology of your soul (High Energy Reaction, 400CP), as well as a source of perpetual energy with the output of an modern atomic power plant.(S2 Organ, 600CP)

Now is you know how to make condensed energy/soul (either false red stones or actual ones from FMA, Materia Reactor from FFVII, Lacrima Creator from fairy Tail, Exsphere/Cruxis sphere from Tales of Symphonia, etc) You could go one better and continually MAKE philosophers stones/make yourself a living philosophers stone by siphoning/condensing your soul and continually regenerating it, my making a metaphysical version of the equipment necessary to do it with High Energy Reaction. Add in a Super-Science healing ray/field powered by S2 core and made with High Energy Reaction for extra speed.

QUESTION: What Type Blue abilities can you learn? buying them all takes 1700CP even with discount. Could you take the base "you have an Angels soul structure" advantages and the "Metaphysical Biology, PhD" and train yourself in the others over time?

And why does the Angel have to pay for the S2 core, I thought all of the the canon Angels in the show had them? It was like their core, and they were all s2 engines/organs, otherwise they would die from lack of energy. [Heh, becomes Angel of Adam, does not buy S2 core, dies 5 min later when power runs out. That jump would suck. ^_^ ]
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>>47914579
This, holy shit. It's alright for the naruto autist, it's not his problem if people decide their OC power lets them dickslap the moon by channeling the power of the forbidden manga smoothie or whatever.
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>>47914605
that's fine. I don't expect it to change, I'm just not going to take it in that case.
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>>47914605
I personally prefer drawbacks that limit your perks in an interesting day tried to how they work in the world. E.g., your powers all need Mana to power them, or they cost blood, or something.
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>>47914648
I like that better than "you don't get anything you've earned" too.
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>>47914634
i'm pretty sure thats a naruto fanfic.

>>47914505
shake spear jump might be fun midsummer nights dream mcbeth etc have cool stuff
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>>47914615
I would say it should be included with the origin, you already get signs for free which come from the same rituals that give them their other abilities.
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>>47914563
You cheeky little git.
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>>47914615
Different guy here, but what if it was free for the origin in question, but otherwise separate from their perk options? Like, using the given example, free for witchers and like 400+ for other origins, but the witcher origin still has its own list of discounted perks.
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>>47914533
I think he means that it actually makes sense with the setting. And wont needlessly gimp racial choices just to artificially pad a jump. It's lest meaningful and just full of needless shit that could be saved for something else.

More =/= better.
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>>47914617
I see you're new here so you should know right off the bat emoticons people treat you with all the dignity of a 12 year old who's just learned to use the internet.

From what I recall angel abilities are pretty static. IIRC there's some offhanded remarks about how humans are the ones with the capacity for innovation while angels are stuck with what they have. Even Armisael just kinda shapeshifted to look like the dead ones before blowing up and dying.

Metaphysical Biology is knowledge, not an ability so I don't think so. I think the angel soul structure thing would go without saying though.

And as for the S2 core, I honestly don't know. I don't think anyone's ever not picked it, but damned if I know how an angel would work without one. I imagine depending on which perks you picked you'd either collapse under your own form like a beached whale due to lack of AT-field energy, or you'd basically be Rei earlier in the series. Or maybe a taiwanese knockoff Kaworu without the sub-universe AT-field trick.
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>>47914723
How about making it the Witcher's 400 point perk but they get that one free instead of their 100 point perk?
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>>47914736
:P
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>>47914548
>Russian tanks strong
>Not American tanks
Anon please.
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>>47914505
>Malazan: Book of the Fallen
Is someone making that jump, or are you saying you want it? Because if someone is making it then all my hype!
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So if you're making a Protector using the Innistrad perk, how are you supposed to incorporate Ensoul from Cardcaptor Sakura into the process?

I want to pass on some of my other powers to these things.
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>>47914579
I don't think the other anon was talking about including OC powers, just options besides Tsukyioyomiyiwhateverthefuck and Amaterasu.
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>>47914763
This could also work, assuming there are 50cp options. Alternatively, the 100cp could just be changed to having an extra 200cp option
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>>47914805
I would like to be able to choose from the different canon Mangos, that would be cool.
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For those who took the A Protector Notavacyn perk in innistrad what have you done with it?
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>>47914821
That would be good too, alternatively it could just be a free option unique to Witchers just like real Magic is free and unique to Sorc/Sage. Even then it would still suck that Witchers cost more than Sorc/Sage though.
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>>47914844
I put an angel in ffxiv. Named her Altana the Dawn Maiden and told her to protect the people from primals (and try to get people worshipping her instead if possible)
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>>47913243
>>47913268
You know I think there could be some benefit to reviewing jumps but I think there is a little matter of tone. This comes off with much too anger and while it seems you do have some points it's hard to take them as constructive criticism because you put them so harshly.
I think if you had just addressed things a little differently you would have had a better chances of seeing changes to the jump.
The way these posts are I don't know if whoever wrote the jump is going to even get past the first paragraph before getting pissed off and dismissing it entirely.
Also before anyone tells me not to respond to the shit poster. It's not only for them.
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>>47914844
I've put an Angel in every world I go to after Innistrad.
It suits my goals perfectly. Make every world I go to a better place when I leave it, than it was when I entered.
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>>47914783
American tanks are no longer stupidly round enough for this discussion. Stop fat shaming.
Russian tanks are healthy at any model number.
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>>47914963
my brother!
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>>47914985
I really hope you didn't waste money commissioning all of these just so you could avatarfag here.
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>>47915038
He did.
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>>47914840
>>47914805
>>47914579

Honestly? I just wanted there to be some variety in terms of Sharingan powers instead of giving you what Itachi, One of several people who had Mangekyou, had.

As I said before, the telekinesis thing? It's a Mangekyou power, and it's not THAT strong. Or at least, the person who used it didn't use it on large enough scale.

As for Going Back in time? THere kinda is such power. It's called Izanagi, it makes you lose the powers of Sharingan you used to do it, though, and has time limit through which you can do things. It's not exactly time travel, but it CAN revive you if you die. It was indeed used that way. You still lose the sharingan in the eye you used for it.

Ninjanon might not even have to make OC powers, just include other power sets. If he makes some OC powers, all the more praise to him because he cared.

I want to make the Jump represent the Naruto setting better. I, for one, don't really care about taking Mangekyou, no matter what powers it has, due to its requirement.

I just want it to represent jump better. And so Ninjanon doesn't have to work needlessly, I offered to add backgrounds and images, to help improve the jump's appearance. I don't want him to work without being thankful or grateful for it.
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>>47915052
He must have paid ten whole cents.
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>>47914956
I concur. The poster in question actually raises some thoughts in line with my own, but manages to deliver them with such vitriol that I hesitate to even say so. That said, what's done is done, and I'd rather have an imperfect long established jump than see builds invalidated. And, I say invalidated because if we were to say, get more of a discount on magic, it wouldn't break my build, just expand it.
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>>47915052
They're not even that good
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>>47915038
they were a monthly rewards thing it didn't cost me anything extra and since it was just a heads it was one for the whole set,
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>>47915078
i like Them and think cool that's theimportant thing
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>>47915057
We don't care about your wants. You keep going around yelling at everyone to make their jump suit YOUR standard of canonicity and you just come across unreasonably autistic, picky, and demanding.
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>>47915100
>We
Don't speak for everyone.
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>>47915100
Calm down, anon.
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Does SBURB have a drawback cap?
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>>47915100

Anon. As far as I checked, and I checked all Mangekyou wielders, none of them had the same set of powers. Sasuke shared one ability with Itachi, due to them being brothers, but everyone else had something unique. Unless they were clones.
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>>47915057
And as I've said before, I find your proposal to be unnecessarily overcomplicated and most tellingly of all you absolutely refuse to acknowledge >>47914634 as an issue, and as I doubt you have any concerns about setting any guidelines to the new powers at all, I still think it's a stupid idea.
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>>47915191
This is where the demanding part comes in, because you want it to go your way and put an unreasonable amount of work on a jumpmaker.
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>>47915191
I'm going to regret treating you like you're actually making this proposal in good faith, but what kind of guidelines would you place on the new powers? What's to stop me from developing a jutsu that is Sexy Harem no Jutsu but exclusively creates Kaguyas, and each Kaguya is exponentially more powerful with the first Kaguya being at canon Kaguya's powerlevel?
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For those of you who Jump without Companions or pets. Is it a lonesome road, or do you simply prefer not to entangle yourself in long-term commitments?
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>>47915191
All of them had the Skeleton power, sussano
Except Obito, he didn't have a skeleton
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>>47915194
People refuse to acknowledge it because they understand it, and mostly seem to want canonical abilities, and not OC powers.
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>>47915140
Doesn't appear to have one, no.
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>>47915264
>People
>Imagined consensus.
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>>47915245
>What's to stop me from developing a jutsu that is Sexy Harem no Jutsu but exclusively creates Kaguyas, and each Kaguya is exponentially more powerful with the first Kaguya being at canon Kaguya's powerlevel?

Yourself?
It's a single player game. If some fag tries that we'll shitpost reaction images at him until he leaves. Do you need /everything/ to be spelled out for you?
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>>47915194
>refuse to acknowledge >>47914634 as an issue
The anon said he wanted OC powers made up for the jump, which I assume would be in some kind of list, not an option for jumpers to make up their own powers.
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>>47915245
The knowledge that if you actually post about that in the thread, everyone would laugh at or yell at you? Also common sense, if it's blatantly better than the canon options, then obviously its not allowed.
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>>47915112
>cheese it, it's the tone police!
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>>47915194

I checked. There are no such Mangekyous that lets you do such an absurd thing. There is a different type of special eyes that do that, and Ninjanon said you can aquire them during the jump, though. It says so in Notes.

>>47915212

Although I don't think you guys understand kind of. I want to help the jumpmaker, but if he is okay with it, I can cooperate with him on the matter of other powers, either other canon ones and/or OC ones, which still might not be included. I am not the type of guy who will just drop a shitload of work on a person.

>>47915245
That's assuming we go with Guideline thing, instead of just several sets of powers. After all, the Jumper will have only one of these sets if Ninjanon adds some, so there might not even be need to cause such worry.

Kinda like how SMT Jump has its 1000 cp unique races. These specific sets of powers you get for em don't appear in setting, but are availible to you.

>>47915256
Obito didn't have Susanoo because he didn't have two Sharingans. You need both to do it.

>>47915297
Bingo.
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>>47915264
>mostly seem

You really, really need to understand making broad, sweeping presumptions about other people doesn't help your case.

I for one don't understand anything about Naruto and resent you trying to take away what little guidelines there are for that sort of thing.
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>>47915283
That other anon was also implying consensus you groveler.
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>>47915249
i did a no companions,no items,no magic, no supplements side chain once the guy kind of broke to the point where he stoppedseeking relationshipsbecause he felt it was Pulse to painful and To Immoral Since he was just going to leave after 10 years,oh did I mention that he wasn't briefed on being a jumper so he had no idea what was happening?
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>>47915249
The latter. I find that Companions get expensive and annoying to think about. I prefer to just spend time with people in the jump, and move on after ten years.
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>>47915309
After your autistic fits I don't want you getting your grubby hands on his jump.
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Uh, based on what I've been reading so far, it seems to me that anon is asking that, if there are OC Sharigan powers, that they be OC powers made up by Ninjanon and offered in the jump. Wouldn't this pretty much eliminate the problem put forth by the "infinite power" people?
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>>47915350
What fits? The people speaking against him seemed to be unreasonably angry for some reason I don't get.
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>>47915353
The problem is he's demanding a bunch of work be tossed at Ninjanon because he's autistic about Sharingans being unique.
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>>47915318
If you don't understand anything about Naruto, you should probably stop posting about it. It's a fact that every single Mangekyou has a different set of abilities.
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>>47915287
I'm deliberately picking the most absurd example I can think of to show why anon's idea is stupid.

>>47915302
As above, and the fact that the fucking idiot is saying jack shit about canon options so those of us who don't like watching childrens' ninja cartoons have absolutely no idea what's a reasonable power.

>>47915309
>I checked

Then actually talk about guidelines instead of acting like your opinion is the only valid one here.

>sets of powers

That doesn't solve the issue. You're asking him to make up some powers with arbitrary capabilities and limitations without any real way to maintain consistency.

>I want to help the jumpmaker

If you really did, you'd learn to take no for an answer.
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>>47915387
I swear to god I remember you throwing an autistic fit at Ninjanon about some setting detail in the past. You sound the exact same and are just as irritating.
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Why do you WANT Mango Sharingans anyway? They're the edgiest things in existence next to the Thing-Thing jump.
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>>47915387
>if you don't know anything about a setting you shouldn't be able to talk about it at all!

I like the current sharingan setup because it's easy to understand, the fuck's wrong with that you nerd?
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>>47915400
This jump has been fine for how long now? Almost a year? How about you leave well enough alone and stop sperging like an autist who learned he can suck his own dick?
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>>47915409
BECAUSE I'M AN EDGY LITTLE SHIT.
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>>47915409
Power, I guess? Collecting interesting abilities from various settings? Wanting your eyes to have fancy designs.
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>>47915249
I once did a no companions run.

I think the casualties started to outpace an average month in 40k about halfway in, and only broke stride when I got a "not so different" speech from Dio of all people. I mean, imagine my lack of foresight except with even more points and no straight man/woman to bounce off of.

Isolation sucks.
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>>47914844
It's been added to my growing list of defenses for the Undertale monsters I took in the Civilization jump, for one.
Occasionally I leave one behind to guard a research station.

I've also turned a couple into magicite.
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>>47915409
I want the eye perk in Tensai to be more useful.
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>>47915409
Holy shit, this.

They're not even edgy in a cool way.

As far as I can tell, they're just...plot tokens of arbitrary powerlevelling and excuses to have needless, badly written drama.

They're boring and, frankly, make whoever's desperate enough to rely on one seem pathetic.
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>>47915309
>I checked. There are no such Mangekyous that lets you do such an absurd thing. There is a different type of special eyes that do that, and Ninjanon said you can aquire them during the jump, though. It says so in Notes.
If you are referring to >>47914579 then you clearly didn't look very hard, since that's a canon ability displayed by multiple characters. Danzo cheats and spams the shit out of it, and both Madara and Obito use it as well. Three others use it in the anime, although I've never watched that shit so I can't comment there.
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>>47915416
The new system would be just as easy to understand unless you're actually retarded. It would just involve you picking from a list of powers instead of having the ones we have right now.
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>>47915456
>that spoiler.

But don't you use your own energy to create them in the first place?wouldn't it be easier And more resource efficient to just use your own energy for that?
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Which is better 100/300/600 or 100/200/400/600 or other?
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>>47915249
I don't have companions, and my meta reason for that is that I don't feel right dragging people along as side characters in what is essentially "my" story. A lot of you probably don't see your companions like that, but I can't help seeing companions like that. I want them to be the main character in their own story, you know?

However, I don't think it's a lonesome road. You can make new friends in every world, I don't get why the fact that your time together is limited would diminish your bonds in any meaningful way. In fact, and this is a house rule that people will probably tell me is badwrong, I sometimes give myself "companions" with a free background and 600 CP to represent allies/friends I make for the duration of that jump.
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>>47915533
The second one
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>>47915409
muh power muh hax muh bullshit. mangoes embody bulling powers out your ass (eyes) whenever its convenient.

I'm offering a fruit powered bazooka in crash i now want to shoot mangoes at the uchiha.
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>>47915501
I did mention that Izanagi can do the "revive" trick, but it uses up the Sharingan. You can replace the eye, though, into Eternal Mangekyou. You still lose it if you use it again for Izanagi.

I was referring to this >>47914634

As far as I remember, Tenseigan and Rinnegan could dickslap a person to the moon... Or into one. Sharingan couldn't
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>>47915533
1/2/4/6 gives more stuff, which is why everybody advocates it.
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>>47915520
The guy has obstinately refused to explain what, if any, guidelines he'd set for the new powers which doesn't exactly engender confidence in me for his competence.

>>47915533
Personally I prefer the one on the right.
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>>47915387
I know each person seemed to develop unique techniques but isn't that not quite true? Madara had the Susanuo or whatever thing, and a lot of the talk about Izanagi and whatever implies that the techniques were common enough to be codified in the clans knowledge of the eyes. It seems like it's just all jutsu you can perform with the eyes instead of each eye being magicallly completely unique.

Obito's eyes seemed to naturally develop Kamui, and Shishui apparently developed some crazy mind control trick, but it seems like that's just more a natural knack of individual sets than each one being some unique OC power.

Madara even makes a comment about Sasuke's "type" of Sharingan saying it's similar to his own, and thus gave him an advantage in following high speed movement I think near the end.

It seems like it's not just each person having unique OC powers and more them developing tricks their individual eyes are geared for, and it's never really gone into in detail so we can't really say whats up.
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>>47915400
You don't need to know what a reasonable power is. The only person who does is the jumpmaker, who's hopefully seen the show.
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>>47915550
...TO BE FAIR.

YOU CAN.

One Uchiha was cloned and the clone also had Sharingan. And shared the Mangekyou design, somehow.

So you could arguably get a person with mangekyou, clone them, steal the clones' eyes and just shoot them at Uchiha

Break their bones fairly quickly
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>>47915533
1 2 4 6 because it splits evenly without 50s.
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>>47915554
if you can clone you have an infinite supply though.
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>>47915563
Nah. Each Eyes has one jutsu or type of jutsu specific to itself. Noone could do Shisui's stuff. Noone else had Tsukuyomi(Infinite Tsukuyomi being Rinne Sharingan Thing.)

Madara's comment was talking about Eternal Mangekyou.

>>47915561
How about because I don't want to say any guidelines without discussing it first with jumpmaker because it would cause even more rage at me because "YOU LIED".
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>>47915576
but So many 50 point items are cute CUTE!
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>>47915575
>Sasuke's face when the tables have turned edgellord.
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>>47915575
>...TO BE FAIR.
>YOU CAN.
To be even more fair, "you can shoot them at Uchihas" is true of pretty much anything you can fit in a gun barrel.
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>>47915577
You can do it with your own mangekyou though.

So really, you can do it already.
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>14) Gunnerkrig Court
>Tech Student

>Construct a Robotic Walking device
>Omnilearner
>To Sleep is to Die
>An Order to Things
>It Was Worth It

>Cackle
>I Know What I'm Doing
>Don't Get Psychopomped

School again, but this time it's a school I can actually learn from. Science classes will be fun, and once I see what Kat's capable of, she'll gain my respect and we can share research notes on growing biological monstrosities. Unfortunately, I doubt we'd be able to create Zerg that replicate her growing metal bio-robots, but it's something to keep in mind for the future.

On the other side of my expertise, the phd in metaphysical biology from the last jump should hopefully let me understand the basics of the court's experiments with the ether. The comic isn't anywhere near done, so I have no idea whether I'd stop them or help out.

The whole time psychopomps keep trying to kill me, and fair enough, a NGE angel must look like a nightmare in the Ether. But psychopomps are abominations, destroying human souls for vague bullshit reasons. I'll gladly wipe them out and probably fuck up the afterlife in the process. Good thing I now have 8 extra hours in a day to fit all of this in.
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>>47915564
>I'm not going to tell you anything that will make my proposal seem reasonable but you should shut up and listen to me anyway

The fact that people keep saying it will be fine but absolutely refuse to provide EXAMPLES is screaming "powergrab" to me.
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>>47915575
no i mean actual mangoes. i am going to shoot them with fruit.

>>47915533
either is fine there are advantages to 1/3/6 namely the abillity to shove in many cheap fun perks like food silly hats etc which become more expensive in 1246 but you need to have good 50cp options available.
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>>47915628
Yes. Let's provide Examples despite not being the Jumpmaker and without him here to discuss it with. It's clearly a smart thing to do. In fact, let's talk about shitload of things we will add to the jump.

Oh wait. We can't do that without the Jumpmaker here. Because it's not our Jump.
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>>47915610
Sleep Tight Narruters
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>>47915593
...are you serious?

Thread's supposed to be for DISCUSSING this kind of shit and you're sitting here wringing your hands about public opinion?

This is stupid. You're asking me to just trust you when you say you know what you're talking about and that you're not trying to sneak in OC superpowers that dwarf everything in the setting. I hope, based on that, Ninjanon doesn't listen to you at all.
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>>47915533
Ehh...

It depends on the jump. The biggest issue with cost systems that leave you with a 50 is that there's usually not much to spend that 50 on. I think it'd be fine if those jumps also had a couple of good 50 options.

However, I sometimes really like jumps with 1000+CP options because those powers are usually neat.
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>>47915651
If it hasn't been clear, I despise the idea personally.

However? If the other guy wants to propose an idea, the onus falls on him to explain why it's a good one.

The fact that he's using "m-muh public opinion" as a stalling tactic while refusing to offer any information on his proposal doesn't sell me on it at all.
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>>47915682
In his defense though, you haven't given him much reason to want to discuss them with you. Based on your tone and the content of the posts I assume are yous, I truly and honestly believe that you'd attack whatever suggestions are given, regardless of their actual quality.
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>>47915711
Stop defending yourself.
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>>47915533
100 300 600. But everyone goes 100 200 400 600 because they suck at offering cheap items.
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>>47915722
baseless samefag accusations are probably the weakest types of arguments out there.
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>>47915729
Cheap items are boring and terrible. I don't want infinite spaghetti noodles.
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>>47915533
100/300/600 is shit. 150pt discounts are terrible. I don't want some 50pt trinket to round things out.

100/300/300/600 is better.

100/200/400/600 is better.

200/400/600 is fine too.
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>>47915711
>>47915706


I can DO start ideas and suggestions, though, if you guys really want to:

First off: Other sets of Canon powers or Custom made by jumper sets of powers?
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>>47915758
>200/400/600 is fine too.
>no 100 cp perks
DESIST
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>>47915711
You know what? That's actually fair enough. I'm not even making any bare bones about what a terrible idea I think it is, and because as I've said I'm cool with the perk as it is now, I honestly don't think he could muster a satisfactory explanation for me.

And I understand now. However, that doesn't change the facts that a) he's pushing for a very drastic change to a jump he doesn't have any claim on and b) he's being intellectually dishonest about the exact details of his proposal.
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>>47915781
Shit. I meant custom made by Jumpmaker + Us.
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>>47915756
But how else will I turn my Tornadoes into a humorous Sci-Fi Saturday movie?
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>>47915791
>drastic change to a jump
Oh come the fuck on. You can at least not outright lie to support you argument. He's pushing for a few options to be added to one perk in the jump.
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>>47915533
100/200/400/600 layout. Four origins, d8 location roll. 10 items, 2 discounted per origin. Companion Import, 300 CP for 8 Companions with 300 CP apiece.

If more people just followed the fucking standard layout we wouldn't have drama.
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>>47915781
Canon powers.

For god's sake, he's/we're already putting metaphorical shit on Ninja's plate, let's not force him to deal with that can of worms.

Even if it's premade OC, no Misc. Meta shenanigans here, balancing it all would be a pain in the ass.
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>>47915781
>>47915794
Well, as I've said I find the premise unnecessarily overcomplicated. I must admit, however, that choosing from sets of canon powers ammeliorates most of my complaints.

If I had (and that's a big if) to pick from the two I'd pick other sets of canon powers to save him hassle, to represent the setting better and because frankly I don't trust you to do custom powers well.

In your defence though, I must admit I'd forgotten the senju (or whatever the animal summoning pact things were called) scrolls until now, so I have to admit there's at least some precedent for custom powers in the jump.
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>>47915827
What if the jump only has one location because that is where everything is?
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>>47915827
>making jumps this uniform & lock-step.

How about [No]
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>>47915852
Then you make the d8 based on locations in that location.
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>>47915827
But my jump is UNIQUE! And you can spend the 50cp left over from the discounted 300cp option on CURRENCY.
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>>47915850
Jesus you're a massive asshole aren't you
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>>47915817
I'm not lying, as I see it. He's pushing for a few options to be added to a perk that requires a great deal of prerequisites. Now you can consider it a minor change if you like but from my point of view this drastically alters said perk's value.
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>>47915827
>300cp to import 8

Surely you mean 200cp
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>>47914162
Mmm bacon soup.
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>>47915875
I'm not even going to pretend otherwise.

But given the nature of this site, you're going to have a bad time if that's all you can complain about.
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>>47915874
Your jump is not unique, your jump-making style is not unique, your cheesy fluff and dialogue are not unique.

Standard layout. Dry cut & standard perk text - don't hide the mechanics behind fluff or shit, fucking get to the point. 12 point Times New Roman with 15 point headers and copyable text.
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>>47915877
Oh look, lying again.

>Great deal of prerequisites
Two. Having the sharingan and the loved one's death.

All he's wanting is a few alternate powers for what the Mangekyou offers. If you honestly consider that a 'drastic change of value' then I can only imagine you consider actually adding a new perk to be a complete overhaul of a jump.
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>>47915875
And the person proposing to give unsolicited input on a jump he has no claim on isn't?
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>>47915758
100/100/300/300/600/600 is Best
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>>47915916
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>>47915850
>>47915829

In that case, it would be fuckin Easy.

1. Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu-SPLERG
2. Amaterasu and Kagutsuchi
3. Kamui, both versions. Since each was only in one eye. Technically just two versions of one technique
4. Shisui's mind control. It enters mind of a person and manipulates them by giving them false experiences, which also makes it seem like they were doing things of their own will. The "experiences" part varies, and it could arguably also be an order. With Hashirama cells, you still can't use it multiple times in one day. And Itachi's crow would require about ten years to use it again. But it was a crow, arguably, and it wasn't an Uchiha.
5. Shin's telekinetic manipulation. It required you to mark an object first with your hands. Basically, touch them.

Again, remember the cooldown of Shisui's thing, and it can be reduced in power. Obito's Kamui had a vulnerability and you can't use both eye powers at once in his case, even if you have them.

Arguably, Shin's "Connection between Clones" of the Mangekyou could also be part of his thing, but it's unclear. Although all the clones could use it if the main one turned the Mangekyou on.

Now, if we had to do some OC powers? We could follow the Naming Convention. Have the powers be based off the gods in some manner. Japanese gods, if you want to follow the convention closer.
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>>47915920
>having the sharingan and the loved one's death

...yes? That's some pretty fucking serious prerequisites man.

>All he's wanting is a few alternate powers for what the Mangekyou offers.

How the fuck is this not a drastic change, especially when he's stubbornly refused to EXPLAIN what kind of guidelines he'd set for said alternate powers so for all I know it's something that will make Madara look like Tenten by comparison? More importantly do you really think acting as his personal fanboy is making me think this idea is any better?
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>>47915756
Well, that's your opinion. Personally, I love not having to fill my warehouse with my favorite food from a Jump to avoid running out of it during my adventures.

Also, there's some genuinely awesome 50 CP items. Don't tell me you didn't go for the Jumper Files or the Cool Skateboard.
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>>47915935
I'm just being practical about this.
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>>47915964
Gosh, no ones suggested canon powers till now nor did they ever say they wanted to work with the jumper and thread to make OC ones. Nope. If they did, that'd just make you look like an overreacting, hypocritical idiot who assumes everyone only wants power and that's just impossible isn't it?
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>>47915979
Why about cash money 50 cp options those are also good as well. Especially for Jumpers who don't have money making perks/means to make money.
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>>47915997
young justice has best cash money perk
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>>47915983
Practical can have color you FUCK.

You're being blander than Top Ramen.
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>>47916013
I can't disagree with that but what about the Vault hunter perk from Borderlands where you always find a way to get payed?
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>>47916013
Teen Titans has 100,000 dollars a year that changes to your current jump's currency.
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>>47915964
Except I already suggested some stuff your screamlord

>>47915960
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>>47916017
>Top Ramen
>Bland
Those are fighting words anon.
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>>47915827
>we wouldn't have drama
>wheredoyouthinkweare.jpg
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>>47915960
Alright, I've looked those up.

You know what, they're fine. I withdraw my complaints about the canon power idea at least. Not crazy about it, but I'm not going to complain about it either if you're advocating it.

Almost unrelated but I am admittedly a little surprised at how similar most of their templates are to each other, all about black fire and illusions.

>>47915993
Gee, it sure would! It was almost like if the other guy had spelled out his idea clearly in his first post instead of dancing around the idea and wringing his hands he maybe would've been treated seriously right off the bat! In fact, maybe if he had you'd look less like an overreacting, hypocritical idiot who assumes it's just fine and dandy to propose ideas without explaining them fully and expecting other people to just take your word for it!
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>>47916017
I'm sorry I prefer my perks to be easily grouped with others and calculated so that I know my Jumper's exact strength and power.
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>>47916017
SALTY IS A FLAVOR, AND I'LL FUCKING PROVE IT!
I'M EATING IT RAW AND CRUNCHY RIGHT NOW!
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>>47916043
As someone who enjoys Top Ramen, I must concur with anon. It is bland as fuck.
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>>47915533
>>47915758
>100/300/600 is shit. 150pt discounts are terrible. I don't want some 50pt trinket to round things out.

It works out well if the Origins are 50CP.(like they should be)
50 (origin) + 100CP perk (free) + 300CP (150CP) + 600CP (300CP) = 50+150+300=500 for a short tree. 1,000CP if they have 2 of each and only 1 100CP perk is free and the other is discounted.
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>>47916037
Screamlord here, as per >>47916056 that seems fine.

Just don't do OC powers.

>>47916060
And I'm...sorry you're apparently autistic to that degree and can't appreciate innovation like GUNNM, Blame! and Age of Mythology's jump designs?

I'm serious. I'm not even trying to mock you like the other guy, I legitimitely feel sorry for you that you can't appreciate that sort of aesthetic flair.
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>>47916073
They're better dry.
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>>47916056
Yes, because he was totally saying they had to be instantly put into the jump and never ever said several times he just wanted to wait for the jump maker to discuss things. It's almost like you ignore any post that doesn't let you scream at people more. But that would make you a shitposter and you're not a shitposter are you?
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>>47916084
>like they should be

why

Serious question here, I've seen Origins priced at 100 CP and more and free and everything in between. As far as I know there isn't any "should" in pricing Origins.
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>>47915916
>not wanting people to experiment and try new things
I guess we should go back to 1-3-6 with an items origin, imaged only.
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>>47916079
So you don't add stuff like spices or such to the soup to help give it flavor?
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>>47916092
>innovation like GUNNM
GUNNM is hard as fuck to read and gave me a headache just trying to make a build
Innovation itself is good, Bad Innovation exists though. GUNNM is ugly as fuck, and should be at least a little more clear on what the perks do.
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>>47916035
ok that is better in long jumps but most of the time yj.
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>>47916056
>You know what, they're fine. I withdraw my complaints about the canon power idea at least. Not crazy about it, but I'm not going to complain about it either if you're advocating it.

Our lord and master deigns to allow us to discuss things! Thank god he, not ninjanon, gave us permission to go ahead on this plan to talk about an idea.

Good god arrogant fuckwits like you make me sick.
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>>47916124
Okay.

I mean, I disagree but I'm not going to judge you for that. I think the earlier convos have established I'm not exactly tolerant of unnecessary deviation myself.

I can't help but notice you're not saying anything about Age of Mythology or Blame! though.
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>>47916108
I legitimately eat them raw, dusted with the flavor stuff. They're like hard meat flavored cheetoes.

>>47916119
That makes it something else. It is no longer Top Ramen, it is Top Ramen with XYZ.
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>>47916124
This. Fluff is good but too much or bad fluff just makes things worse. The best example I can think of is Final Fantasy 13-3, which is almost oppressively dense and confusing in how it's written.
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>>47916157
I like Age of Mythology and Blame!
I'm not the guy you were talking to. I just butted in because GUNNM looks like shit.
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>>47916129
it is also much cheaper than YJ.
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>>47916168
Second.
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>>47916164
>hard meat flavored cheetoes
I'm torn between disgust and curiosity
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>>47916119
Anon, if you have to add stuff besides the included flavor packet to make it palatable, that means it's bland. It is BECAUSE I add extras to it that I call it bland.

I usually eat mine with egg and butter.
Unless I'm going for spiciness, then those detract from its kick.
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>>47916138
Wow, I didn't know explaining my opinion on a given power is illegal now. Because unlike you and your buttbudies I've never spoken for anyone else's opinion in this whole argument and I wouldn't have paid such attention to it in the first place if he wasn't proposing changes he expected everyone to instantly agree with. Better watch yourself if you wanna keep that badge, tone police.

Good god sycophantic fuckwits like you make me sick.
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>>47916180
>>47916129
Or just get the best money perk, the one in Archer that makes you a billionaire heir.
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>>47916056

Most of their techniques were based on Black Fire because the most we've seen out of Mangekyou users unique powers was Sasuke's and Itachi's Amaterasu. Sasuke, due to having the eye that let him shape the fire, invented quite a shitload of techniques with it. Itachi's Tsukuyomi was first technique of Mangekyou we saw, as for Obito's thing... It is KIND of illusion but not quite. It's similar but super weaker than Izanagi.

As far as the common theme goes, the Sharingan powers are based off Japanese Gods. And Uchiha Clan in General focuses on Fire, Illusions and possibly other Dimensions, due to evidence shown by Kaguya, who has her Rinne Sharingan, along with how Kamui touches upon other dimensions...

And one of dimensions visited by Kaguya with others in tow was a Fire/Lava one... hm. Thoughts.
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>>47916168
I didn't mean to imply you were the guy I was talking to at all and I'm sorry if I gave off that impression.

>>47916188
>spiciness

Do you use Tobasco sauce in your soup by any chance? I've tried with some other recipes to...mixed results.
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>>47916192
>Wow, I didn't know explaining my opinion on a given power is illegal now
You sure did your best to make it clear everyone else's was, and added in a spot of baseless power grab accusations to top it off. Hypocritical as usual.
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>>47916185
Punch the ramen to break it into bite sized pieces, then open the bag, pour in the flavor, and give it a shake.
Crunchy salted meat carbs.
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>>47915979
I didn't. I don't like meta.
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>>47915456
>Occasionally leave one behind
>Adding to your defenses
Can't you not make one if there's already one in the setting? I may be completely misunderstanding what you mean here.
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>>47916230
I want to blow air into those ears so badly.
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>>47916216
>Obito's thing

From what I understand isn't it basically forcing someone to experience a reality marble?

>dimensions

I never understood if those were already there or if Kaguya sorta created them after indigesting the fruit.
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>>47916230
My sister cooks some ground beef, puts in the Ramen, and adds a piece of cheese.
The smell of it, particularly with the spices she uses, disgusts me.

I go basic. I just add in a little pepper for spiciness
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>>47916168
I'm not that anon, but I actually really like Gunnm. I've never had any problem reading any of the image jumps.

I will concede on that guy who was complaining about FFXIII-3, though. I love fluff, but not to the point it becomes difficult to know what the hell things actually do.

I don't really care about prices as long as I can spend all my points and there's more than just fucking money to buy with the last 50CP
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What are some good jumps for speed? X-men lets you get to Mach 30 with some practice and Omega-level, but I can't help but feel that most shonen characters would be able to kill me before I react.
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>>47916262
Part of Gunnm giving me a headache is likely the small text, and the fact my eyes are shit
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>>47916192
It's the same guy samefagging. He has the same post style.
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>>47916197
By the way, who made the Archer jump and have they ruled that it follows us? Also, why is that a perk and not an item?
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>>47916124
While we're talking about GUNNM, I also want to bring up my complaint about the perks required to get the special Imaginos bodies. I don't mind them being expensive, provided that the powers actually do fit the cost, but the fact that one of the prerequisites itself has a bunch of prerequisites and, in doing so, makes it vastly easier for one origin to get them just rubs me the wrong way.

Like, I don't know much about the setting, but I don't get why getting the Imaginos bodies are so vastly cheaper for Doctors than the other origins.
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>>47916227
Now who's doing some good ol' fashioned lies and slander? Need some help with those goalposts? The point of my posts was attacking that specific anon, not anyone else in particular. And I don't see how initially stonewalling any and all attempts to get an actual fucking explanation for what he was proposing makes such an accusation "baseless" before he finally came clear with what he actually meant.

Sycophantic as usual.
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>>47916275
>He can tell people apart on post style alone
SHIT! HE KNOWS WHEN I TAKE OFF MY TRIP TO SHIT-POST!
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>>47916124
GUNNM is one of the best jumps. I love everything about it.
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>>47916292
Please don't be glib to support an autist, Justice. You make it hard to get people to avoid arguing with lost causes.
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>>47916254
I believe they were already there. As for Obito's thing? He can store things in there beforehand. It's kinda more like his own Pocket Dimension.
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>>47916250
Fox ears are fun to play with. Especially when they're annoyed with you. Just watch out, they will bite your nose.

>>47916257
I cook the noodles in sriracha, and prefer the chili flavor.
It is very red...
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>>47916254
I think Obito's thing is more that it gives him access one specific alternate dimension, rather than create one on the fly.
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>>47916295
I greatly disagree, but I sense we aren't going to come to a conclusion we both agree with, so let's drop it.
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So what if I want to harvest the souls of characters who die in canon and then stick them together as some kind of soul gestalt?
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>>47915916
And make the title larger with every revision to see if anyone notices.
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>>47916264
SMT, Naruto, most shonen in general. Technically any jump with casual timehax as well, like Bayonetta and especially SBURB.
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>>47916224
> Do you use Tobasco sauce in your soup by any chance?
I'm gonna be honest with you, anon.

...
I just save a bunch of packets of hot sauce whenever I go to eat fast food. I ask for them to load up on extras and put them in my refrigerator in a little ziploc.
It's ramen so I gave up trying to be classy a long time ago.
It varies from origin to origin but so far I haven't found a bad combo.

You can also add regular pepper, which isn't spicy, but it does help enhance existing spiciness.
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>>47916275
Yeah, I figured.

I should probably stop replying but his need to defend himself was equally aggravating and amusing.

But yeah, this is going nowhere fast.

>>47916284
CCDT, I think

>>47916264
Sonic and Fate/Jumpchain; the way Time Alter works effectively doubles your base speed, which makes it a great force multiplier along with regen and perks that actually make you move faster

>>47916287
I think it has something to do with Desty Nova (one of the BBEGs but more amoral than malicious) pioneering the science that led up to them being created? I'm not sure though.
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>>47916335
I read that sentence with the inflection at the beginning.

>So WHAT if I want to harvest souls?
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>>47916335
You probably have some serious issues? I don't know what you're asking.
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>>47916264
Well Speedster from Arrowverse is mach 50 iirc, and RoH level 100 Drop-In from Overlord should be pretty high considering some of the crazy shit even warriors do in canon. Also softcap from Elona and broken limiter+fighting spirit from Mushoku Tensei if you don't mind working for it.
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>>47916330
>drop it
...
Can you tell me how to find the Drop-in on the GUNNM jump? I seem to be a bit lost.
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>>47916056

Honestly, I think the issue might have been here that some people who don't know that much about Naruto did not know what other Mangekyou powers were, thus they were afraid they would be hideously broken inherently, and that that was the reason why they were not offered beforehand. Same with new powers.

Am I right?
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>>47916335
That seems a little weird to me, but it's your chain bro. Go for it
Dark Channeling from Hellsing should help.
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>>47916355
You don't even need softcap with broken limiter. Mushoku Tensei swordsmen are fucking insane.
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>>47916364
The issue is that you made demands then were unclear exactly what you wanted done to meet those demands in a thread satisfying way.
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>>47916362
I said earlier just making a build for that gave me a headache. I eventually just picked shit mostly at random. So no, I don't know what the Drop-in is
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Which side are you on?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l6vqPUM_FE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXzMD065HEk
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>>47916364
Would've been nice if they just asked or looked it up themselves instead of causing an argument everyone else has to sit through because they're too lazy.
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>>47916321
>they were already there

Huh.

That...raises more questions.

Glad I never got into Naruto lore now.

>>47916327
One that was already there as well? I was under the impression most of this chakra stuff generated stuff rather than yanked out stuff already there.

>>47916343
I...find that intriguing and disturbing in equal measure, won't lie. I've honestly never thought of mixing fast food.

I think this is what Dr Frankenstein felt when he first found out you can make dead meat move by zapping it with lightning.
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>>47916362
There isn't one.
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>>47916354
Mostly just picking up people who would have died anyway and instead of letting them get tossed into the cosmic trash bin giving them a chance to meet each other.

Also put them all in one body because nobody's got time to make bodies for all of them.

And they have so much in common!
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>>47916378
Yeah I know I was just offering that in case he wanted to boost his base physical abilities without having to use mana.
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>>47916389
>I don't want to set the world on fire, I just want to start a flame deep down in your heart
This. For my Waifus
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I am now working on a Btoom jump, just to let people know.
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>>47916382
>thread
You mean the massive autist who hounded people long after they posted what they wanted to do even while admitting they knew nothing of the series? No, common shit posters don't represent the thread.
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>>47916416
>Btoom
Are there a lot of explosions?
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>>47916401
>>47916388
FUCK ASS!
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>>47916362
Wastelander is the equivalent to Drop-In, if I remember correctly.
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>>47916364
Well, for me at least the issue was also partly because I was under the impression you wanted to make a set of completely overpowered OC powers for Ninjanon to make available, but yeah.

>>47916416
Cool. What's Btoom?
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>>47916389
I don't want to set the world on fire side for the win.
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>>47916397
Sasuke goes dimension hopping between Naruto and Boruto after studying Kaguya's stuff.

So, yeah, this is fucking dumb.
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>>47916418
The issue is neither do you and there were other people, myself initially included, who didn't like the idea either and didn't speak up after the argument went pear-shaped.
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>>47916438
Well, I'll go try to re-comprehend it.
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>>47916389
It annoys me that the volume on those isn't equal so I had to adjust them independent to get them to play at the same time without one of them overpowering the other. However the end result is actually kind if interesting.
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Lyrical nanoha build
Warehouse time 58.2
9 yo female
Alzus administrade world #6
Unadministerred
Mid childan system
ZENRYOKU ZENKAI 600
Well adjusted free
Potential 500
Go down fighting 400
Power of friendship 100
Ancient knowledge -300
Mana conversion affinity -400 (light)
Firing lock cancelled -550

Gear
Sponsored by pizza hut free
Infinite library priority access -600

Drawbacks
Belka reborn 0

As the pick says I am in this one to make friends. Through any means necessary. I would drop down an avacyn tier angel here but I am afraid she wouldn't be able to match the raw damage output of a little girl and that scares me.
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>>47916439
From what one Anon said, Battle Royal, but with only grenades.
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>>47916455
Right back at you. Several people were willing to talk about it and liked the idea. So how about you just learn to not claim thread consensus in the future and speak for yourself eh?
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>>47916463
I kinda want a version of that image with Luna Lovegood
Since I imported her as Fourze
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>>47916488
I can't stop laughing...
Send help...
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>>47916433
Yes there are explosions, grenades are the primary weapon after all.

>>47916439
A death game where all the players are given a bag of special grenades.
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>>47916477
...the fuck are you even talking about. I wasn't claiming thread consensus at all you fuckwit, I was saying there was MORE THAN ONE PERSON even discounting the loudest guy who weren't a fan of the idea. I never disputed that some people did like it.

Christ, you don't even realise you seem like a bigger hypocrite than everyone you're accusing so far.
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>>47916389
But what if I want to flood the universe instead of burning it?

Water best element fite me 1v1 scrubs
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>>47916526
>Using water
>Calling anyone else a scrub
Hey, could you wash my car for me?
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>>47916510
Oh it gets better. I gave her The Power Cosmic perk, you know, the one that lets you Make Astroswitches, amongst other things.

See >>47910056 , >>47910081 , >>47910407 , and >>47910772
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>>47916526
Then wait for leviathein jump. I think thats a legitimate plan there.

Good on you waterbro.
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>>47916488
Close enough.
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>>47916389
Sunlight fo' life.

>>47916526
Water is two hydrogen atoms clinging to an oxygen atom for stability.

Therefore water is literally fire that can't get a job and lives the NEET life refusing to go out and face the world.
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>>47916569
I'll take it. Thank you
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>>47916548
>he doesn't blast water at high enough pressure to cut steel
>he doesn't control the terrors of the deep

GET ON MY LEVEL
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>>47916569
We need more befriending pics.
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>>47916581
New Londo waterpark is now open!
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Would it be wanker-ish of me to assume that Waveform Physiology from Evangelion could be toggled on/off using toggle from Young Justice when I need to use AT.

Besides enjoying being a meatbag, it also seems like it'd be rather disadvantageous to have my soul/mind/spiritual essence always on the outside, as mana/magical energies are often related to spirit. If someone powerful sneak attacks or mindrapes me, then they would easily be able to kill me -- while the AT fields are pretty nifty, I don't know if they'd be worth an overall nerf.
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>>47916575
>he doesn't work dilligently for millions of years to carve cast canyons deeper than the highest mountains are tall
>he doesn't support all organic chemical reactions
>he needs organic fuel to continue existing
>he doesn't form nearly 10% of the atmosphere and over 70% of the planetary surface
>he gets put out by the very molecule he calls a NEET

You wanna try again m8?
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>>47916583
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>>47916583
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>>47916631
>>47916638
>>47916569
I wonder what would happen if Fourze, Nanoha, and Luna all met together.
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But what if I don't want friends?
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>>47916628
>Not making Canyons in a couple of hours like Earth when it decides to Quake
>Lightning also does this, and that isn't even an element
>Oxygen is an Organic Fuel
>He doesn't form the planet's Core and the Sun
>He thinks he's got bants, but he just got burned
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>>47916614
Yeah.

Seems like all those YJ perks were meant to work with stuff that's actual superpowers you need to focus and activate, not thing that are an innate part of how you function
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>>47916653
Something beautiful.
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>>47916653
The city's buildings are destroyed, but everyone is friends. And discussing creatures that may or may not be imaginary

>>47916638
Saved. Thank you.
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>>47916661
No charge for them.

Well, except for the 300ish CP it often costs to import all your companions and/or any additional CP you may or may not be able to grant them.
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>>47916661
Then you'll turn to the dark side of cosmic energy, destroy your genetic makeup trying to resemble the constellations in monster form, and through overuse probably deteriorate into stardust
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>>47916663
It's not an organic compound if it doesn't contain carbon.

Plus, the planet's core is molten Earth, not pure Fire.
>>
I love jumps that detract from the usual layout, but Jesus both Blame! and ARIA jump is annoying. I really don't want to have to read a book to enjoy a jump.
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>>47916690
That was the point. Fire can survive off of pure oxygen, it DOESN'T need an Organic fuel

And it's Earth and Fire together.
So Romantic
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>>47916674
> Needing to Befriend Madoka
Bitch, please. Madoka is passive as shit until she goes goddess tier. Which she clearly isn't in that picture. She'd probably be happy to be Nanoha's secretary.

It's all the OTHER characters would need befriending.
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>>47916708
Have fun with Warhammer Fantasy, Final Fantasy XIV, and Light of Terra.
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>>47916725
She was trying to stop Nanoha from Befriending the others
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>>47916274
You can zoom in, you know.

Well, you should be able to. Most pdf viewers allow for that.
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>>47916725
That's why she's unharmed. She's just spooked because she just watched all her friends get BEFRIENDED right in front of her.
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>>47916715
It still needs a carbon compound to burn.

That's why you can't burn sand or concrete unless you use something dumb like chlorine trifluoride.

In fact, if all fire needed was pure oxygen, you'd be able to set water on fire instead of boiling it.
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>>47916667

I could probably at least use the bangle in Monster Hunter to be a meatbag if I ever wanted to.

Are there any other perks that could mitigate the other drawbacks of WA, though?

It'd probably just be better to simply not take it at this point, though.
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>>47916726
I've already done Warhammer Fantasy and Light of Terra. While those are certainly long, they weren't nearly as annoying as the previously mentioned two.

They both tried really hard to make it more unique, making it bloated. Hell, Blame has to have an index of powers at the back that says what each do simply because the text in jump was overly descriptive.

Doesn't help I know nothing about the settings either.
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>>47916765
>Water is PURE Oxygen
Are you an idiot?
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>>47916792
Are you?
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>>47916792
Did you read the post I replied to?

If you put a lighter into a bucket of water, nothing happens. Water isn't flammable, even though there's oxygen in the air around it, because surprise, fire needs carbon-based compounds to burn.
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>>47916792
I think what he's trying to say is that if it just requires oxygen, then water would just burn, although the thing is, it would just be a decomposition of water when exposed to enough heat... so it'd be something like water boiling into oxygen and hydrogen instead of water vapor.

They would also promptly combust, most likely.
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>>47916804
>>47916809
Last I checked Water is 1-part Oxygen, 2-parts Hydrogen. That's not what I would call pure.
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>>47916778
Oh.
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>>47916826
That's not what I'm saying, I'm saying, can you read?
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Can anyone in this thread into chemistry?
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>>47916835
>implying we'd need chemistry or alchemy perks if we could
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>>47916835
The ones that can are smart enough to ignore these idiots.
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>>47916835
I mistakenly took chemistry as an early Saturday morning course in college, so no, at least I can't
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>>47916832
>read the post I was replying to
>that post said "fire can survive off of pure oxygen"
>pure oxygen
>you replied "If that was true then water would burn"
>as though water was pure oxygen
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>>47916853
You fool!
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>>47916853
My Chemistry lab ran until 11 at night. It was fun.
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>>47916835
Yes, but the things people have stated just make my head hurt and do not make me inclined to reply.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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