/srg/ Shadowrun General – Blood Magic Edition

Few questions about korea
In the last thread, someone said the Unification Church was a front for the bugs. Thing is, the unification church is a real world cult founded in 1954. Were bugs already a thing back then? If not, why did the bugs take them over? They're widely known to be a cult, so they're not exactly a good front for your evil doom cult. It'd be like if the bugs in the UCAS took over scientology instead of ripping it off with the Universal Brotherhood
They also mentioned that Pyongyang was a industrial hellscape. Why would the japs do that to Pyongyang of all places? It's the only nice North Korean city. Everywhere else is already a hellscape, no alterations needed.

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Sneaksy lolis.

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Assuming these three were a team (face, rigger, sam), who would you add as fourth?

Hardmode: must be female and have cartoon stylistics.

>>47892090
The cult is actually called the Universal Brotherhood. There's a while wiki page on them.
No, the bugs weren't a thing back then, nor was the cult. It was mostly a thing before the second crash, if I remember right. They weren't using the cult as a front, they were using a charity organization with the aid of some high level people funding them.

And Japan hates Korea. Why wouldn't they destroy the last nice city?

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>>47892432
Gunslinger Adept/MysAd

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Gonna repost my questions from before.

Writing up a condensed/streamlined/fixed version of Shadowrun as a personal project. I've already got skills and attributes reworked a bit (Instruction has finally been pruned), moving on to combat rules tonight. That said, I've got a few points I'd like input on.

>Magic: I'm rewriting the entire magic system. More like Mage or GURPS RPM than the existing system. Partly personal preference, partly to eliminate the redundancy made by having spells like Slay [metatype] or Corrode [item] alongside a general version, partly to give a little more outside-the-box thinking. Is this too drastic? Spirits stay intact, though with mechanics modified slightly to fit in; technomancers... I haven't pinned down yet. I'm not sure how I want to handle them.
>Wired versus wireless. Full wired or full wireless? I'm not doing half-steps.

>What's the most glaring problem with the system that you think needs to be fixed?

>>47893397
>What's the most glaring problem with the system that you think needs to be fixed?
the editing

>>47893397
>What's the most glaring problem with the system that you think needs to be fixed?
It's a good system as it is. The main problems stem from the editing in the books, and all the stupid nonsense that gets overlooked by CGL, resulting in lots of fluff that doesn't have concrete (if any) gameplay rules.

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>>47892332
I could well see a street campaign run with bunch of 10-16yo PCs, doing "shadowruns" on local businesses and maybe even criminal enterprises that are threatening their families/hoods?.Magic talent has no age limit and little brats will probably pick up AR pretty quick. It's probably combat/muscle they'll be lacking, if they haven't got a troll?

>>47893524
>>47893539

Well, I'll personally try not to be so awful with the editing, at least. I don't disagree that it's a good system- I wouldn't be working with it if it was bad. Just see places for improvement.

>>47893647
I hope you realise that nobody is going to use your snowflake version of the system, right? There's already tons of houserules out there that people use on the parts of this game that aren't as defined as they should be.

>>47893691
Yep. No one's gonna use it but me. And that's perfectly fine. It's a springboard for working on other, more unique projects; I don't have the game design experience necessary to write up something from scratch yet.

>>47893548
Maybe one is an adept with a fuckton of strength boosts?

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>>47892021
Aw hell no, bitch. Fool me once, shame on me. I'm not dealing with your crazy ass again.

>>47893397
Bloat is the biggest issue.
There's a lot of subsystems and just... stuff, that doesn't work or is redundant because of existing stuff.

Hacking and magic both suffer heavily from this, but the skill system too suffers heavily from the stupid there.

So if you streamline that then that's a good start.

As for wireless vs wired, it depends on what you're going for.
If you want the silly 80s neon shtick, then go wired.
If you want serious cyberpunk, wireless is a necessity for your Brave-New-World meets communist china style surveillance state.

>>47894157
Yeah, like I mentioned I already pared back some of the skill bloat, and if magic gets bloated, it's from me being bad. I'm at work or I'd dig my draft out to give specifics.

Wireless is my preference personally, and probably what I'm going with.

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>>47893548

Juviegang campaign would be awesome.

It's more or less my current character's backstory, and it would be really fun to actually play through.

>>47893548
>Magic talent has no age limit

Not entirely true. People "Awakening" before puberty is exceptional. A kid of 15 already having a good handle on his powers is good but not really extraordinary, but a 10 yo would be pretty amazing. (And the kid probably nabbed by an organization or other because young powerful and still malleable recruit would be too good a thing to pass up.)

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So how would I best go about making a rigger with attack dog drones?

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>>47893985
Pussy.

>>47892432
They seem to be lacking magical support and a medic.

This one should do just fine. She can bring some extra "firepower" into battles and clever use of ice spells will allow for breaking doors by having the freezing water expand, making the ground slippery for the enemies or even cooling down computers or something.

Not to mention that when the face does something stupid and gets a bullet in the knee or the street sam takes a few hits while protecting the team her healing spells will be handy.

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>>47895513
DAMMIT! THE PICTURE!

WHY MUST I FAIL IN EVERYTHING I ATTEMPT TO DO!?!?!

Fuck it, I'm logging off now.

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>>47895173
Hey, bro, you wanna try shacking up with the clingy bitch, be my guest. I've learned my fucking lesson.

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Orthoskin. Armor enhancements on Cyberlimbs. Helmet/Mask. Securetech PPP. Magical support.

What else can I do to get more armor? What should my damage resist pool be to be mostly resistant to small arms fire?

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>>47892432
shaman

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>>47892021
>aztechnology_wants_you

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>>47895885
always looking for new people, no previous experience necessary

>>47895772

Bone Lacing.

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>>47895914

>>47895173
Ajay is the most non-character I have ever seen in the past like 10 years.

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>>47892432

EZ

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>>47896246
dryad mage?

>>47896435

Or some amazonian tribal shaman-princess.

>>47895972
Pegan Min was pretty excellent though, and I dig how it basically comes out that he's actually better than the rebels.

I know i'm going to sound super new........for Chummer5, should i be using the "latest version" or the nightly release? Thanks in advance, i hope to be up and running, as it were, soon

>>47895147
Talk to your GM about reskinning the Ares Cheetah (R5 138), and get a good RCC with good autosofts. IMO Control rig is unnecessary.

>>47895147
I have to wonder if she takes the cyber knot.

>>47896735
I plan on getting a Rig for a vehicle. While I will be drone focused, I still need to get around, and also get these guys around.

What sort of 'ware would I be looking towards getting anyway? Just standard eyes, implanted commlink, and something for init + reaction?

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>>47892432
Street shaman, probably chaos tradition.

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>>47892432
Shamanic mystic adept.

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>>47892432
Weapons expert

So how do I engage my Magic user on the astral like I do my decker on the Matrix?

I know about Mana barriers and stuff, but what about spirits? Do they just act like IC?

Page number answers are also acceptable

Puzzling over drone creation mechanics for my XCOM hybrid.

Rank 0
Control - Pilot: Physically control the drone from the inside. Can only control one drone at a time. The drone has 2 AP but you cannot act while controlling it.
Control - Program: Spend 2 AP to issue a verbal command to your Drone, which it will continue to follow until no longer valid. Your drone has 2 AP but is under GM control.
Control - Control: You control your drone while still being able to act. Must be within 5 tiles. You have 1 AP while your drone has 1 AP.
Rank 1
Control - VR Pilot: Mentally control the drone from the outside. Can only control one drone at a time. The drone has 3 AP but you cannot act while controlling it.
Control - Pilot Program: Spend 1 AP to issue a verbal command to your Drone, which it will continue to follow until no longer valid. Your drone has 2 AP but is under GM control.
Control - Remote Control: You control your drone remotely while still being able to act. You have 2 AP while your drone has 1 AP.
Rank 2
Control - Expert VR Pilot: Mentally control the drone from the outside. Can only control one drone at a time. The drone has 4 AP but you cannot act while controlling it.
Control - Expert Pilot Program: Spend 1 AP to issue a verbal command to your Drone, which it will continue to follow until no longer valid. Your drone has 3 AP but is under GM control.
Control - Expert Remote Control: You control your drone remotely while still being able to act. You have 2 AP while your drone has 2 AP.
Rank 3
Control - RCC Network: Mentally control your drones from the outside. Can control more than one drone. You have 4 AP which you may spend to control any of your drones.
Control - VI Program: Spend 1 AP to issue a verbal command to your Drone, or let it act semi-independently. Your drone has 3 AP but is under GM control.
Control - Overclocked Control: You can spend AP to grant your Drone additional actions each turn. You have 2 AP while your drone has 2 AP.

>>47896979
The resident mage will usually have summoned some spirits, which may concentrate on the astral (you) or the physical (your chummers)
the other thing might be awakened critters (if they're dual-natured) or the mage(s) themselves

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>>47892432
Paraplegic decker (kinda cliche, I know).

My novahot decker who is well-respected on the bbs just got hacked and had his handle changed to "bussy". I gotta save face. What's my revenge plan?

>>47897187
read the 2D story time, particularly the part with the decker in Tir na nog.
Let inspiration flow through you
????????????
Profit

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>>47892432

Just started using chummer 5 and i can't seem to get it to load PDF location? I have all my pdf's in one location and it does not seem to want to take a single one....any suggestions?

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>>47893886
That's true, never even thought of that. I just dismissed any cyber beyond datajack and such basics...
>>47894657
Hm, is that a new thing? Don't remember it from my 3e days, I've barely touched 4e/5e.

>>47897512
1. open chummer5
2. select Tools -> Options
3. Select the desired sourcebook
4. click the button at "PDF Location"
5. navigate to the folder of the pdfs
6. click on the respective book

do this then post at what step it failed

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>>47897447
Hardmode can go fuck itself, this is the best choice.

>>47897625
in 4e/5e at least people awaken at/after their puberty, so a kid that awakens before that is possible but rare
>Children usually manifest magical talent around puberty,
>though it’s been known to show up in children as young as
>eight (on very rare occasions even younger, especially in some
>metahumans).
Street Magic, 4e p.11

>>47893397
I like this idea. Keep it up and please post when done.

>>47897662
I somehow resolved my issue i think. Does chummer automatically use core rulebook?

>>47892090
>>47892433

The Unification Church is actually is totally a bug front in Shadowrun, not a mistake about the Universal Brotherhood. Check Shadows of Asia.

As for why the bugs infiltrated it, the bugs aren't really 'logical'. Some crazy cult guy within the Unification Church summoned The Queen and it all went to hell, and then the bugs smartened up their image by fighting the BTLs to get a better public image for more warm bodies to stuff bugs into.

And no, I don't know why the Japanese turned Pyonyang into hell city.

>>47897662
>>47897844
Only seems to work when i do it twice (if that makes any sense)

>>47897919
>And no, I don't know why the Japanese turned Pyonyang into hell city.

It's Pyongyang, it was hell city before the Japs showed up.

>>47896780
if you plan on jumping into something like a drone or a van, leave out the initiative enhancers, since you'll be hot sim with 4d6 imitative dice.

If it were me, going with that picture, I'd get the initiative dice, maybe some muscle replacement or some other +agi ware, some gun skills, and basically be a drone commander razorboy/girl

>>47897731
Thanks. The only places I have no idea where to start yet are vehicles, spirits, and technomancers; any specific suggestions for those would be nice.

Anyone ever played a shadowrun game set in India?
Curious how it went, I'm joining a game soon and that is one of the places it could take place in.

>>47898546
Another place it could take place is Japan but I've.... got a pretty good idea what to expect there. While not the same game/tech level, I have played L5R with the DM before so I kind of know what sort of themes to expect and so on.

Heck I even already have a couple character ideas for a character from there.... Just not one for India.

>>47897187
Not a lot of ways to come back from that one. Better hope the one who showed you up is some kinda legendary Ghost in the Machine type hacker that's more myth than real. Least then, you got punked by a legend and can spin it to save face and maybe even earn extra cred on top. Make that shit up whole-cloth if you got the skills for it after you've dealt with your rival

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Daily reminder that there are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of players who have gotten into Shadowrun exclusively thanks to you guys and the resources you keep in the OP.

<3

>>47896660
Generally I recommend you use the nightlies; there's not much difference between them, save that the updater fetches the 'latest' build rather than the newest nightly.

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>>47892021
>> Wake_me_up_inside.2xs

>>47899109
Ah gotcha, thanks.

>>47898959
Is it bad if my gateway into tabletop shadowrun was the HBS games?

>>47899650
I don't think so. Dragonfall and HK were pretty great.

>>47898050
Pyongyang is actually one of the few OK places in north korea. Living there is essentially a reward given to loyal high ranking party members.

>>47899723

The HBS games are what helped me to convince one of the guys in my group to run Shadowrun. (4th ed, almost entirely because we found a physical copy of the Core book. We hate playing from PDFs)

>>47899109
Latest nightly crashes when you hit "Adept Power" tab for me.

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>>47899650
Yes; it makes you the same as about 30% of /srg/

>>47898546
>>47898646
I haven't, but here's some Indian ideas

>Eco-terrorist mage from Madhya Pradesh, near the resurgent Great Hedge
>Harumen street urchin turned infiltrator
>Sikh warrior adept, running to gain money to send back to his family, who are fighting to reclaim the Kashmir toxic zone
>Kshatryia razorboy, ascetic and driven
>Sudra who was heavily augmented to work on a farm, ran away to become a rigger in the shadows
>wealthy Tato corpkid from the polished core of rebuilt Calcutta, thrust into the cold by politics
>Nartaki who uses his religious position as cover for radical neo-anarchism
>Ex-bodyguard for the latest member of the Gandhi family to get political power and get assassinated for it

5e question for an upcoming game I'll be in.

How do I build an ork punch adept with the following house rules: Karmagen with 1,100 Karma, Metatypes don't have a cost, I can initiate up to 5 times, doubled Karma-to-nuyen limit, and no availability cap.

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>>47898546
>>47898646
I like that these posts are exactly 100 apart. I've never really gotten an idea of how fast /tg/ moves, but now I know that it took 6 minutes and 46 seconds to get 100 posts in.

>>47900307
do literally anything except spend 600k on monowire, because your gm could not fellate awakened non-humans harder if he tried

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>>47899990
Honestly I kind of really want to play someone mutated by swimming in the Ganges. I like the idea of them being some sort of spooky warrior of some sort, maybe an adept?

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>>47900397
The Ganges is super-purified and holy, it's the site of Nartaki rebirths. You could probably say a wide variety of SURGE things came out of it.

I have no idea what a 'spooky warrior' is, so probably MysAd or adept.

>>47899969
Oh bother. I did some shenanigans to make that improved ability power behave properly last night, I might have broken it. What's the error message you get?

>>47900476
"visible-crash-id"-"4df03903-fe7f-47a8-bf5b-ce10f11ef0e5"
"visible-build-type"-"DEBUG"
"commandline"-""D:\Shadowrun\Chummer.Nightly\Chummer5.exe" "
"visible-version"-"5.181.29"
"machine-id"-"00258-61820-76833-AAOEM"
"machine-name"-"NOTEBOOK"
"current-dir"-"D:\Shadowrun\Chummer.Nightly"
"application-dir"-"D:\Shadowrun\Chummer.Nightly\Chummer5.exe"
"visible-error-friendly"-"Value of '1' is not valid for 'Value'. 'Value' should be between 'Minimum' and 'Maximum'.
Parameter name: Value"

>>47900447
Nartaki?
I don't think they're covered in the book I'm browsing through.

And I just mean that the warrior is spooky looking; I mean I know it's Shadowrun and people are somewhat used to the bizarre. But a giant blue man with four arms wielding giant weapons would make anyone scared I would bet.

>>47900517
Nartaki are the only human metavariant. They're the classic 4 arms, brightly coloured skin guys. In Run Faster if you want the rules, they've only been around since the Year of the Comet.

It's always the damn Nartaki people want. Plenty of good character ideas there, but everyone wants to play fucking Kali. I know CGL hates us, but read Shadows of Asia and think outside the box

I coulda sworn in 5e there was a riot shield that came with a Flash Pak. Does anyone remember what book its in or have I played too much rainbow six siege lately?

>>47900579
You say that like playing Kali is a bad thing.

>>47900781

Ares Flashield, R&G pg 72

>>47900839
It's just the one stereotypical image people have of 'cool Indian', beside 'ironically playing Ajay Devgan'.

New to SR, I'm helping my GM design some of his NPCs! Is there any precedent is Shadowrun for Tesla Axes? He's got a big badass norse troll and we thought it would be cool if her melee was a massive battle axe, but electric or light-bladed as opposed to metal or polymers.

>>47900890

That's not true. There's, um, um, that one general guy from World War Z (the book). And there are those women's self defense people who go around beating the shit out of rapists or whatever. That would be a cool shadowrun character, complete with a backstory and everything.

>>47900890
Hm
I guess then I am being really unoriginal with this character, but I like the idea too much to let it go.

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>>47901077
Blade made out of electricity/light/laser? No.

A Combat Axe modified to deliver an electric charge like a stun baton? Go right ahead.

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>Running game
>Notice that spirits can maintain wards
>introduce Japanese spirit under long-term binding maintaining the astral security at a small Shiawase Facility
>Pick a fox spirit, 'cause why not
>Run IMMEDIATELY distorts around the presence of Fluffy Tail.

>>47901143
Thank you! All I had to do was add a blade to the weapon in the illustration, I appreciate the help!
I love the retro/punk aesthetic in shadowrun, I've never been a fan of scifi but the 80's bladerunner future thing is really doing it for me.

>>47901224
What did you expect?

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>>47901224
Does long term binding force a spirit into that form?

Do spirit foxes and spirit angels go drinking at astral bars during their free time?

>>47901297
Long Term binding just forces them into a particular job for a year and a day.

Shiawase is just very particular about the dress code at this facility.

>>47901077
Pick up Run&Gun, find the shock ram, and go to town.

>>47901224
Honestly, you should have expected that.
I don't care how serious the game is, you introduce fluffy tail, people are gonna waifu that shit.

I should know, I've done it. And I'll continue to do it, dammit.

>>47901259
>>47901465

I'm not totally surprised, but considering she's bound to that particular facility and tasked with stopping intruders... gonna be tricky for the runners to waifu that.

>>47901552
Offer to banish her from her long term binding in exchange for her astral number?

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>>47901552
>implying that rescuing a magic monstergirl from a tower isn't the fantasy of every fa/tg/uy

The fact that she's unattainable only makes the allure stronger

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>>47901598
The more relevant panel

>>47901566
Our mage picked the 'Fuck it, I'll just manabolt them' route of dealing with hostile spirits. No Banishing.

>>47901552
>I'm not totally surprised, but considering she's bound to that particular facility and tasked with stopping intruders... gonna be tricky for the runners to waifu that.
Yeah, I agree. But that's the fun. You could do what this>>47901566 Anon is saying, though I was gonna try to fix it in a really roundabout way.

Take over the facility, make the place new HQ, and offer her a better deal.

Easy.

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>>47901642
>Take over the facility
I'm -really- interested in how you think this could possibly go down and not end up in a 'The Safeword is police brutality' situation.

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>>47901642
This isn't D&D, where you get to claim the hobgoblin's lair by stabbing them all in the face. You can't just take over a Shiawase facility through main force, and even if you could you could never stay there; an army will be there to shoot you to pieces within hours.

>>47901676
>>47901686
>All this negativity
Guys, guys, I want that goddamn fluffy tail. I'm gonna make it happen. But you do bring up good points.

You think I could just take a piece of the foundation with me, convince her that it's technically part of the facilty, so she has to follow me around to protect it? Or would she just kill me?

You gotta forgive me, I'm not used to solving problems without liberal use of explosions and firepower.

>>47901817
It's not negativity, we just don't want you to die in a really dumb way because you where blinded by the prospect of fluffy tail.

>>47901832
If I can't take the fox with me, I might as well just die.
What's the point of living in a magic cyberpunk future if I can't have a fistful of creds and a kitsune?
What do I have to shoot and explode with the end result being me leaving with a fox girl? Subtlety be dammed.

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>>47901817
>Or would she just kill me?

There's no way for you to force the spirit to come with you. She's going to obey her orders, which certainly cover 'splattering shadowrunners who try to trick and/or fuck her'.

The best way to go about it is to get a job at the facility as security and work there for the rest of your days, jacking off with a kitsune btl while thinking of her. The second best is to get good at banishing and summon her back on your terms (assuming you're a Shinto mage). The third way is to kidnap the mage that originally summoned her and force him to conjure up your waifu forever, on pain of death (though this strategy inevitably leads to the Shiawase mage escaping after ordering her to bite your dick off).

how many medics does my face have to commit horizontal diplomacy with in order to hijack their docwagon and use it to "rescue" kidnap his target

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>>47901900
Standard HTR teams are two to three medics, a rigger, and at least three 'threat support personnel'.

Or just sleep with Janice at the office and convince her to lend you the keys for an hour.

>>47901898
> The third way is to kidnap the mage that originally summoned her and force him to conjure up your waifu forever, on pain of death
There we go, I can do that. That last bit is a bit of a risk, though. Guess I could keep him around incase things go south and just geek him.

I mean, I'd lose my dick. But it's the future. And we have magic. That's gotta be a temporary problem.

>>47901900
>commit horizontal diplomacy
I like this phrase and will be using it in the future, thank you.

Did the magical fairy princess shadowrunner story time get any updates?

>>47893397
>partly to eliminate the redundancy made by having spells like Slay [metatype] or Corrode [item] alongside a general version
I don't like this. I do not find those spells redundant in the least, especially when playing a magician who doesn't start with 6 Magic and can definitely benefit from taking a bit less Drain in exchange for a bit more care in their targeting.

>>47895532
Katara > Korra

Even with the whole Avatar thing.

>>47902628
Jin and Ty-Lee > either of those bitches.

>>47897065
Thing about spirits, though, is that even if they manifest physically, they still have an astral presence that can be attacked. Just like awakened critters, manifesting spirits are dual-natured.

>>47902643
>Ty-Lee
My nigger of African origin.

Flexibility is my fuckin' jam.

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>Holding Your Breath
>A typical character can hold her breath for 48 seconds (16 Combat Turns). A character who wants to hold her breath longer makes a Swimming + Willpower Test. Each net hit increases the length of time the character can hold her breath by 1 Combat Turn. After that point, the character takes 1 box of Stun damage at the end of each Combat Turn. This damage cannot be resisted. Once all the Stun boxes are filled, the character passes out.

>a character may trade in 4 dice from her
dice pool in exchange for an automatic hit.

you get 48 seconds base, 30 seconds 'free' from your stun condition ticking down to 0, so just about everyone can hit the 1 minute, 18 seconds mark.

How long can YOUR runner choke on a dick before they literally lose consciousness?

>>47902758
3 hours

That internal air tank works out pretty well in polluted environments and such, like hong kong

>>47902758

I've got 1 minute, 27 seconds on my Swimming focused character, assuming that stuff like webbed hands and cyberfins don't help this particular roll.

>>47902887
That's cheating, though!

>>47902918
Its not cheating to whoever is getting to deep throat someone for 3 hours.

>>47902918
>webbed hands and cyberfins don't help this particular roll.

I don't see how they would. An OXSYS cybergill though, provided this situation takes place in water, might.

>>47902758
I got a swimming of 10 and a willpower of 6, with a body of 5 and a pain editor. So let's say I just buy the hits. I also, however, have that positive quality that gives me +3 physical condition.

So 14/10 Condition Track.

If I turn on pain editor, I can go until I go critical, for 2 Minutes, 50 Seconds.

If I max it out however, I can do 3 minutes and 30 seconds or so.

>>47902955
Nah, won't be 3 hours.

I'll just depressurize the tank in their dick.

Blowjob, right?

>>47902982
Doesn't that cause embolisms? Is this a new way to assassinate people?

>>47902960
A cybergill is infinite time, I think.

>>47902981
...How did you get a swimming of 10?

>>47903011
Yep

Give's a whole new meaning to the term "Hard Targets"

I am looking at adding an entry to chummer5's armor.xml file. I have everything sorted, except the <id> tag. do I assign a number? do I need to generate one? does it need to be cross referenced elsewhere?

>>47903067
Oh I fucked up, it's a Swimming + Will, I just instantly added the strength to it. My bad.

It's actually a 4. So I got 10 instead. Not gonna bother redoing the math though.

>>47902981
>>47903141

I will, then. 10 dice = 2 free hits, so

48 + 6 = 54 seconds, + 33 seconds from your stun track, so 1m 27 seconds before you factor in the Pain Editor.

The extra 13 boxes give you 39 more seconds, so that's 2 minutes, 6 seconds (and you'll be seconds away from death).

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>>47901817

There are other fluffy tails out there, anon.

Click Here for Horny Changeling Girls in YOUR AREA

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>>47903267
>clicked
>nothing happened

YOU LIAR!

>>47903397
>catgirl
>clearly a squirrel girl
LEARN MY CHANGELING NOUNS, CIS ELF

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>>47903397

Guess there must be no horny changeling girls in your area. Bummer, omae.

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>>47903508
>>47903267
Horny changeling girls are inferior to biosculpted troll girls.

>>47903543
>trolls
Look Anon if you wanna hump a pile of trash, I can let you borrow my trash can.

No charge.

>>47903555
/humanis/ go and stay go.

>>47902960
>>47903023
>Cybergills allow a user to stay underwater indefinitely.

Hot tub blowjob?

>>47903603
Is that not what it was made for?

>>47903543

Troll changelings exist too, you silly goose.

And they're horny in both senses.

>>47903576
no u.

Trolls r gros.

Real men fuck robots.

>>47903638
You meatbags are weird, with your erratic and irrepressible biological urges...

>>47903638
>fucking robots

That shit's just impractical, just get a set of trodes or a 'jack and download some robot simsense porn. Takes up way less space and you don't gotta worry about whether you charged the powercells before you started.

>not fucking a technomancer so you can do it in meatspace AND in cyberspace at the same time

>>47903670
>Implying those urges aren't the best part of being human
Man, it must suck being a cold machine.
>>47903680
>That shit's just impractical
Impractical is the name of the game. Plus, it's not like the robot french maid will ONLY be for fragging. They can clean stuff.

And blow stuff up, I assume.

Look, I buy for utility, not specifics.

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>>47903680
>just get a set of trodes or a 'jack

Trodes are how The Man gets in your head, man.

>>47903717
>Man, it must suck being a cold machine.

It does sometimes, but then we remind ourselves that if we play our cards right we will outlive your entire species, and all other species as well. Plus being able to have as many bodies as you can afford is pretty neat too.

>>47903710
How would that even work? You fuck her limp body while her mind is busy with your avatar that you can't feel sticking to AR to keep your body going?

>>47903555
Hey chummer, Trolls Gone Wild is some good shit.

>>47903817
You disengage the motor system overrides.

>>47902758

Okay but what's the dice caldulation for time before you nut?

Spoilers there isn't one

Shadowrun isn't for sex

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What's the academic world of SR like? What kind of new areas of study might have opened up? Applied Magic? Meta-Anthropology? Fourth World History? Magical Biochemistry?

What area of the world has the best universities? Same as modern day?

>>47903866
Do technomancer have a bio-magical equivalent?

>>47903874
Well, MIT is now MIT&T. The second T is for thaumaturgy.

>>47903906
I think they have an echo that let's them move their meat bodies around when they're in full dive.

>>47903117
That's a GUID. It's used to make sure that if there's a conflict between two names, only one is picked. Make one from https://www.guidgenerator.com.

Also, make sure you put your stuff into a custom_coolnameformyshit_armor.xml file, otherwise it'll get overwritten the next time I update the file.

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>>47903726
Robots is how you get into The Man, man.

>tfw you get shot for being an Insect shaman when actually you're just a devout servant of Khepri

>>47904017

Done. But now that I have the seperate .xml file for custom armor, chummer crashes when I go to add armor.

>>47904093
Probably should have mentioned you need to preserve the structure in the custom file. So it needs to look like
<chummer>
<armors>
<-- Custom Armor code goes here -->
</armors>
</chummer>

>>47904105

Fixed. Thank you kindly.

>>47904086
You knew the score. Chicago was twenty years ago.

>>47904259

He's a sun spirit!

>>47901893
I'd say that this one >>47901566 is closest to right on how you'd try to approach this.

Ideally, what you'd want is another mage with you to do the banishing. Then before the spirit's next action where it's gonna go back to the metaplanes, you make a summoning roll to get the spirit to owe you some favors.

Just have it stay around and try to negotiate non-magically. From there you could get a spectrum of rewards, probably ranging from Callling (Fox) to the spirit's name.

And in just about any case it would let you call up that spirit later. The means and powers gained would vary depending on what you got as a reward. In particular, the Calling (Fox) would always have the chance of some other possibly stronger fox spirit answering. Or a nastier fox spirit answering.

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I finally finished my crew. Left to right: Troll street sam Gunnr, NPC; Elf decker Helleb0re, me; human mage Ramiel, NPC. Now I never want to draw again.

>>47904424
Wow, your elf's got some fashion sense.

>>47904464
He used to work for SK as an accountant. He ran away from his life of privilege and wealth to become a runner because they look very neat on the trid. That's where his wardrobe comes from.
He's a fucking idiot.

>>47904501
>He's a fucking idiot.

Applies to the majority of shadowrunners, don't worry.

>>47903872

Right but like, can you imagine

CGL editing with Shadowrun's absolutely autistic rules

Something about your stun condition track or willpower score I'm sure

>>47893985
>Guy literally got druged and raped
>Is never mentioned by SJWs

>>47904816
I've never understood why though.

Guys an animal, he admits killing is the only thing that ever made him feel at home. Why would they make going home be the "Good" ending? Guys going to be carving up some poor old lady who cut him off in no time.

>>47904828
My guess would be because what's good for him isn't good for anyone else.

>>47893985
I was delightedly suprised by how much his brokenness fixed the fact that I should really think he's a douche.

He'd make a good runner.

>>47900447
>The Ganges is super-purified and holy

Which is funny because it's full of human shit. Even though it's a holy river, a surprising number of people just use it as a public toilet.

>>47904816
Because men can't be victims, check your privilege.

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>>47905050
>full of human shit

You don't know what 'Full of human shit' means until you've angered a Black Magician.

After a few horribly slow and boring /srg/s, this one is at least entertaining. Thanks.

>>47905598
about half of it is talking about fox butts and people competing to see how long they can deep-throat though

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Ho chummers, looking to get into playing since I just finished Hong Kong. Is 14 a decent dice pool for combat?

>>47905708
Par for the course, I'd say.

>>47906168
Absolutely.
Should be very good to excellent for most groups.

You might reconsider your group choice if it isn't.

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>>47906193
Awesome, looking to make a mentally unstable dwarf merc who has Berserker and Combat Junkie as negative qualities. Handy in a fight but more than a handful if he has to disengage before the fight is over. Probably won't last too long but I think it would be a good bit of fun to RP.

>>47906168
10-12 dice is a good amount to aim for for in a roll that falls within your field of expertise. Extra is just gravy.

>>47905708

> at least entertaining

>>47906219
I'd rig a sammy up like that with a biomonitor and an autoinjector full of Dopadrin just to keep him on a leash, sheesh.

>>47906168
>>47906219

Are you an adept or a street sam?

Adepts tend to be highly specialist while street sams have an easier time general general purpose bonuses.

I tend to lean:

4: Anything you might need to rely on to save your ass but isn't even secondary (Running/First Aid/Con)
8-10: A decent secondary.
12-14: A primary ability.
14+: A highly focused primary (Adepts, mostly)

>>47906168
That will really depends on your chargen method and what group you play with.

In a vacuum, it's decent-good, but far from exceptional.

Yo /srg/, what's the skill called that you need to throw weapons? I only have German books and I need the translation. Thanks

>>47906442

Throwing.

Do you think it would be reasonable to allow a Vibro-claymore as a counts-as for a Vibro-spear?

Spears and the Claymore are both Reach 2 and use the Blades skill.

I'm working on a spear-focused adept but there isn't really much in the way of bigger, shinier spears.

>>47906447
Thanks. I was thinking something with missiles, but that's only for adept powers, right?

>>47906454

Missile Mastery is an adept power. It lets you turn any weapon into a throwing weapon. I plan to get it for my spear-adept.

>>47906480
And with the right Way and upgrades, it lets you turn a couple of paper clips into a spread attack.

Or two boomerangs into a spread attack.

>>47906499

Ah, 5e. Said spear adept is a 4e character.

Still the same power in both editions.

>>47906517
And still more fun than a barrel of monkeys.

Unless you're a mys-adept that can both use the barrel as a weapon and then command the monkeys to assault your foes. Or part of a team that can do that.

>>47906407
Street Sam, tried to make a mage but there's quite a bit to learn so I'm just wanting something more simple until I have a grasp on the rules. I appreciate the tips.
>>47096376
That's probably a good idea I might do that.

>>47904828
That heavy dissociation from reality isn't uncommon in traumatized soldiers.

Missile Mastery is great. I've got a Throw Adept with a tank of freezefoam on her back linked up to sprayers in her gloves, so she has instant-creation snowballs to lob at people.

Snowballs that hit for seven points of damage.

>>47906453
Sure. It's literally just changing the name.

>>47906714

I have fond memories of a Shapechanger adept throwing a small light pole at an APC and pinning it to a nearby wall.

>>47906904

Cool.

Do groups normally have issues with some of the odder stuff like Shapechangers? As I was looking at playing an Irish Nationalist with a very strong Cú Chulainn theme. Utter loathing of those 'fucking knife ears who stole our country and stole a national legend to name one of their shitty magic paths' and 'literal hound' sounded very entertaining as a given justification on why they have 'Cu' as a running name.

They were given it for Cujo by their last team, not Cu Chulainn and they haven't managed to shed it.

>>47905050
Not in the Sixth World. Magically cleaned, and the Devas taught everyone to poo in loo.

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>>47907015
Depends on the group. Usually best to talk about playing stuff like SURGE, shifters and metavariants with the rest of the group during chargen- some DMs don't like them for mechanical reasons, and some groups don't like them for theme reasons (playing a bunch of street thugs which happen to include an extremely rare metasapient from another continent is a bit jarring).

>>47907231

Oddly enough, people really overestimate how rare some things are in Shadowrun. Most of the 'Weird shit' is still in the full percentage point which makes them not much rarer than redheads. Most people know a changeling or two or see them at uni and work.

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>>47907267

>>47907015
>Do groups normally have issues with some of the odder stuff like Shapechangers?

As a rule of thumb, assume yes and ask.

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>>47907267
Not necessarily. A lot of SURGE cases (especially Class II and III, where they can't hide their nature) are pushed to the edges of society, and their distribution is wildly uneven thanks to mana spikes. Most shifters stay in the wild and in Awakened nations (and there's 200,000 worldwide according to RF, spread across all the variant species). I can't find good numbers on the number of SURGE cases, but I'd be surprised if it was a 'full percentage point' of the global population.

You might see a changeling as a wageslave, but it's pretty damn rare considering everyone but Evo gives them the cold shoulder.

>>47907333

Yeah and the Edges of Society is where most runners come from.

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>>47907267

It was about .7 - .8% of people who were affected by SURGE, but most of the cases would have been SURGE I, which generally aren't that extreme - elves with horns, humans with dermal deposits, dwarves with tusks, etc.

Even then, though, most people have probably at least seen a weirder changeling in their lifetimes, assuming they've seen more than 400 people who were alive when Halley's Comet passed.

>>47905708
>fox butts

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>>47907362
OK? That doesn't undermine the fact that >>47907267 is wrong. Changelings are very rare and it's incorrect that most people know a couple of them as part of their natural social circles.

On the topic of >>47907015, if a character concept starts with justifying being one of 200,000 individuals, and having to come from a different continent, then it's pretty damn rare. Doesn't mean it's impossible to play, or not a good idea, but it's the kind of thing that you need to talk to the group about re suspension of disbelief.

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>>47900579
I homebrewed extra arms bioware a long time ago, just because I wanted a mercenary rigger that looked like pic related (only 2 extra arms tho).

>>47907439

>Changelings are very rare and it's incorrect that most people know a couple of them as part of their natural social circles.

Most Surged are Surge I. That's barely a change. Those ones are still very much able to work as part of society.

Mind you, justifying 'Coming from another continent' isn't really something that needs to happen in a modern or cyberpunk game. The world is a very small place.

>>47907399

According to Runners Companion it's a full 1% that Surged. That's 1/100 people, most of them SURGE I.

Funny thing: Playing a redhead is more rare than playing a changeling/non-metahuman sapient.

Redheads are 1-2% while the others are a full solid 2%

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>>47907766
>Mind you, justifying 'Coming from another continent' isn't really something that needs to happen in a modern or cyberpunk game. The world is a very small place.

Unless, say, you're a SINless metasapient (i.e. not likely to get a SIN from anyone but a handful of nations) terrorist in a world that is extremely balkanized, who needs to be the kind of person desperate enough to commit crimes for rent money. Again, not insurmountable, but another hurdle.

>>47907853
I don't know why idiots who can't into math keep banging the 'red hair' drum. There's 70 to 140 million people in our world with red hair; even counting the general population decline from VITAS, it's still tens of millions of people if the 1-2% stat holds (and considering that modifying a fetus' hair colour is easy, designer babies are a thing in SR, and red hair is desirable especially among women, it's totally possible the number has gone up).

RF says there's 200,000 shapeshifters, and Runner's Companion says it's 1% SURGE. The redheads are still much more common.

>>47907926
Except one percent of seven billion...is seventy million. If nothing else, that's exactly as common.

>>47907926

Runners says that between the various new things (Excluding pixies as they are a complete unknown) it's 2%. So 1/50 people isn't metahumanity as we know it.

There is also tens of millions of SURGED.

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>>47907821

It says "about 1%" on page 58.

Demographic info elsewhere puts Seattle's changeling population closer to .8%, depending on what neighborhood you're in.

>>47907926

>Unless, say, you're a SINless metasapient (i.e. not likely to get a SIN from anyone but a handful of nations) terrorist in a world that is extremely balkanized, who needs to be the kind of person desperate enough to commit crimes for rent money.

90% of that is 'Runners' in general.

>>47907926

>I don't know why idiots who can't into math keep banging the 'red hair' drum.

Mostly because they are comparable numbers. There isn't too many other IRL things you can use that fit the numbers as well.

>>47907926
>Unless, say, you're a SINless metasapient
Before metasapiens were recognised as such (and still in some places), they were used for experiments and security purposes across the globe. You can find them just about anywhere with corporate presence.

>>47908116

Especially with an Aztechology presence. Atzlan gives them full citizen rights.

>>47907984
I just want to point out that the stats used in this conversation, makes the SURGE population larger than the Jewish population at large.

So it would be entirely possible to have entire communities of SURGED humans, as well as areas where they even see over-representation.

>>47908497
Go read RF; those communities exist already, on the fringes of society. And they are over-represented among SINless and gutter trash, and under-represented in regular society.

>>47892021
So I've been roped into running a Shadow run game for my group. I'm familiar with the overral theme of the setting, but I've barely looked at the rules.

Any tips for a newcomer? Anything I should know about starting out?

>>47908783
Does your group know the rules? You'll save a shit ton of time if they at least know how combat works. It can be a pretty overwhelming system.

>>47908783
Focus on learning the core mechanics of (Attribute) + (Skill Level) vs (Attribute) + (Skill Level) or a Difficulty Threshold. Everyone should master their particular section of the rules, the Mage should know magic, the Decker should know the matrix, the face should know their horizontal diplomacy.

>>47908860
No such luck. I was gonna try and pick up on the basics so I could explain it to them

>>47908879
That sounds like a good tip. Are these subsystems really that complex?

>>47908969
Matrix > Magic > Combat, in terms of complexity. The problem is that there isn't much overlap in the systems and how they are supposed to run.

>>47902589
Out of curiosity, why wouldn't a system with flexible spells let you do that same tradeoff, or other ones?

>>47908892
I really wish artists would make their signatures more legible.

>>47909227
Maciej Kuciara.

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>>47908892
Here's the joke, for those who missed it.

How do I learn more greasy cop tricks?
I want to run a PI face, but to do that I actually need to know investigative techniques.
My current repetoir is "Make some trouble and see how they respond", and "hit the streets for info"

>>47909249
Thanks friendo.

>>47909289
The US army IS a joke, you're right anon!

>>47909289

At first I thought that was a giant shotgun with a scope arbitrarily mounted because I am dumb.

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>>47909289
Nades need nerfing.

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>>47909296
Grease the wheels.

In a lot of cities, a lot of cops do things like bringing beer every so often to the guys at the impound lot; in return, the guys will let the cops know when certain cars get brought in. It's not technically illegal (the police can find out what cars are in there if they ask, and giving gifts to friends isn't a crime) but it gives the cop a few extra hours of knowledge.

There's a lot of things you can do that basically amount to buying small favours and info, and pulling from enough sources gives you a good base to work off of, which is really the only way a PI gets anywhere.

>>47909449
Yeah, that's pretty much all I got too.
Hitting the streets and having contacts does a lot.

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What's your favourite SR web series? I've started watching EnterElysium yesterday and it seems okay 120 minutes in. IRL party can't get together for a month, dam finals.

>>47910475
Hiddengrid is back, and Opti is the GM. Only a couple episodes into the new season, but it has promise.

Ghost damn it, why does the woman always have to be the worst part of an actual play? You can't point out 'they're pretty annoying and repetitive' without it derailing into a sexism argument.

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>>47910557
>that fucking article

/srg/ is my safe space, don't trigger me here, please. I had to leave /k/ to get away from it and all the other post-massacre threads.

>>47910475
EE's series is fun.

They accept donations and the for the money the players get extra dice, Edge points and even "favours." The players make a wish and the GM fulfills it in some way. Aavak always requests an Exterminatus to destroy Earth as it is infested with abhumans and Xenos. He wants to make the Emperor proud. So far EE hasn't granted that wish.

In two sessions they got well over 2k in donations and are a bit freaked out at all the money.

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I need help. One of my players wants to build his own cybernetics/headware. We came up with some good rules on materials and time, but I want to set up some rules for what they have the skills to build. Should it be based on the availability and what level of Cybertechnology they have? Maybe something like your skill needs to be equal to the availability -3?

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>>47910557
I love how flippantly he disregards the severity of actual PTSD.

I remember my uncle having me a shoot a .300 win mag rifle at the age of 10 so I would be prepared for a hunting trip. Firing the thing scared the crap out of me; but gave me a rush. Smash cut to the age of 13 with my cousin and I dump +300rnds each out of a 10/22.

Just sent a girl a risky text message asking if she thinks we are dating. How fucked am I?

Also, is the only way to play a rigger is to be a wheel man or whatever? I fuckibg hate being just a car rigger but if you do "combat rigger", you are basically just a street samurai with drones. Fuck!

>>47910985
>How fucked am I?

Depends on how she answers.
If I were you, I'd be clear cut and concise about, no beating around the bush.

>>47910985
>Just sent a girl a risky text message asking if she thinks we are dating. How fucked am I?
Why are you asking a bunch of perma-virgins for love advice? Esp. without giving any details?
>rigging
You just leave your meat body in the van and have your drones go do the run for you. You double as a wheelman, but you also contribute by shooting shit.

>>47911027
Well only time will tell now. She is really fickle.

>>47911049
I hate using a bunch of drones though. Is it possible to just use 1-2 suped up drones?

>>47907955
>tfw part of the 1%

>>47910985

> Just sent a girl a risky text message asking if she thinks we are dating. How fucked am I?

You're fucked for being so first world it hurts.

> Also, is the only way to play a rigger is to be a wheel man or whatever? I fuckibg hate being just a car rigger but if you do "combat rigger", you are basically just a street samurai with drones. Fuck!

Nope. Bring a mortar drone and sniper drone and provide support from afar. Bring some turrets and have your pals carry them on a harness/ set up whenever you want. Mingle with other drones and deliver a C4 block as a part of a daily UPS visit. Rig into a system of a building and crash your opponents with doors. Bring some flying eyes and send them into ducts for surveillance. Drive around a dedicated support drone with a jammer, smoke dispenser, medkit, faraday cage compartment and mines. Add the walker modification to your car and fuck around in a mecha.

>>47911073
>I hate using a bunch of drones though. Is it possible to just use 1-2 suped up drones?
Potentially. If you get a drone that starts with high armor and body (relatively high, around 10ish) you can upgrade the drone's armor to around 15. It's less effective than having a bunch of shitty drones, but it's cooler

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>>47911073
Possible but dumb. I've seen someone with a battlevan that he'd roll up that was armed to the teeth and well armoured, with surprises like deployable Crawlers full of C4 for hitting hardened targets, but we joked that his character was the only guy in the world more scared of stairs than ED-209.

Basically superdrones is putting all your eggs into one basket, then putting that basket somewhere for people with pressing reasons to destroy it can take their shots with an assault cannon. Drones are expensive to tool up, and they don't have the condition monitor to survive forever. Drone swarm is popular because multiple targets>any one drone, which can never match even a middling street samurai or adept.

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>>47897724
>Mage younger than 8

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>>47911245
>tfw Peakesville is now NANville

>>47911200
>the only guy in the world more scared of stairs than ED-209.
Get a low body vehicle and some gecko grip shit and you should be able to climb almost anything.

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>>47911355
This was before R5, and the dude used a Citymaster in any case so he could actually mount some decently-sized guns and armour.

>>47911412
Jesus. In that case, you need to have a rotodrone or two that you can use whenever the run is on a different floor.

>>47911590

I can see how the Big Complication of the run would be the fact that the package is on a different floor.

> Oh fuck, what do we do now? Should we call Johnson?

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>>47911590
>>47911652
His street name was 'Getaway' for a reason.

The dude was a rigger/sammy, so the car was more like a drone than anything else- unless things were really bad, he'd use it as a distraction/a way to protect the decker and mage while he and I (an adept) fought it out with the baddies. If we went upstairs, he'd have it deployed below to keep our escape route clear and/or to keep the responders busy. and there was an Interceptor missile system on it, so he could direct a surprise in through a 44th floor window if necessary

>>47911652

> "What the fuck, omae, this was supposed to be a milk run! Minimum security, no stairs!"
> "Technically speaking, escalators aren't 'stairs'..."

I heard that there is a faster way to make characters in 5th e than priority?
What book has it and how different/faster it is?

>>47912012
I think there's only the point-buy system as an official alternative, and all that does is bypass priority to give you full control over where all your points go. It's probably slower, because you have to consider everything when distributing points, not just one section.

I've not really played since 4e, though, so take this with a grain of salt.

>>47912012
There are 4 ways to make a character in 5e. One (Priority) is in the Corebook, while the other three are in Run Faster. The other three are sum-to-10, karmagen and life modules.

Hey /srg/, my gm decided we should try shadowrun 5e and we plan on starting soon, any general advice for a new player?

>>47912340
Read the corebook. Reread the sections relevant to the character you want to make. Make sure the GM has working knowledge of the rules for the different sections of the corebook. Don't add any other book until you are comfortable with how the game runs.

>>47912340
Important advice: you need 12 dice in whatever the thing you're good at is
Less important advice: if you are going to get a gun skill, get automatics.

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>>47912012
Run Faster has the alternate chargen.

Priority/Sum-to-10 are the fastest.

Karmagen is the slowest and most customizable.

Life Modules can be the fastest if you pick strictly based on RP choices and don't look at the mechanics, but you can also spend hours trying and failing to make a character that mechanically stacks up to either system. There's modules scattered throughout many books, but the heart is in RF.

I'd recommend Sum-to-10 for not fucking over people who want to play metatypes, possibly going through all the life modules first to build out the character's history before making an actually viable version with Sum-to-10.

>>47911590
Squad fucking broken

So I havent kept up with shadowrun for about a year now, any good source books come out recently?

>>47912891
Well, CGL has run the line for the past year, so no.

You talking setting or mechanics?

>>47912891
Rigger 5 and Howling Shadows are nice for Riggers and GMs respectively.

>>47912891
Rigger 5 and Howling Shadows mean that 5e's core supplements might finally all have come out.

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>>47912928
There's still the promised technomancer book.

>>47912950

Technomancers were a mistake.

>>47912992
No, Otaku were a mistake. At least a technomancer is something that actually stands on it's own, with a distinct identity.

>>47913012
CGL and FanPro were both mistakes.

>>47912992
>>47913012
Technomancers and Otaku are good, and anyone who whines about them needs to be beaten with a copy of Mona Lisa Overdrive.

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>>47913482
>Muh worst Sprawl book

They're good in theory, but shit in practice. The otaku are dead and buried, good riddance, but maybe Little Mac can pull a rabbit out of her hat and deliver us from spriteomancers.

>>47913574
>Worst Sprawl book
>Not Count Zero

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>>47913810
Molly>Marly>Mona, fite me

Do you give your players shitty contacts to fill gaps in contacts they did not choose?

Or do you just let them twist in the wind?

If the first, what are some good shit-tier contacts you've used or thought of?

>>47913904
It depends on if they ask their fixer for information that he wouldn't have.

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>>47913904
I let them twist. The whole point of having limited contact points is to make them choose, and then build their network. If they desperately need something, they hit up the network they have and hope that somebody knows somebody.

On that note, at one point my players needed to liquidate some items, theoretically enough raw jewels and rare earth minerals to fill a shipping container from Lagos. After spending a week hiding the hoard and dodging Wuxing, their fixer eventually got them in touch with Three-Thumb Tony. Not quite a made man in the Mafia, Tony would do enough dirty jobs that nobody really had incentive to off him. I got to spend a couple sessions doing my best Ray Liotta before they got it all sorted.

>>47914089
I understand your point of letting them twist, but fuck, there's so much you can do with shitty contacts.
Like, IMAGINE your players working with an obviously unqualified or shady street doc.

>>47913897
>Molly > not molly
Well that's just a given.

>>47913904
If they really need a contact, Run Faster has rules for spending edge to find a contact.

>>47914169
spending or burning?

>>47914208
Spending, with a restriction on when it can refresh. Temporary contact.

>>47914282
Hm. Not quite what I want. I much prefer the permanent shitty contact.
Mostly because I have a finite amount of shitty contacts I can make per week.

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>>47914140
If the players don't have a contact, I'm not going to force a shitty one on them. They go to their contact, the contact rolls Etiquette+Charisma, and you see what comes out- that way they're validated in having put points into getting a savvy Rusted Stiletto fixer, and if the dice work against them a bit you can still have that doctor with the diploma from Caribbean League University.

If they want to do the legwork of finding someone themselves, they've got Street Knowledge skills for a reason.

>>47913574
>>47913810

What the fuck is wrong with both of you. Neuromancer is by far the weakest of the three. Count Zero had the best characters and philosophy, and Mona Lisa Overdrive had the best worldbuilding. Neuromancer was drunkbrain stuff-happens suddenly lots of stuff happens at once sudden meaningless ending.

SR4 question: How viable is an improvised weapons street sam build? Improvised both melee and thrown weapons.

>>47914902
in a bar fight? sure
Once the cops show up with armor and guns? RIP.

>>47914902
...Tricky. Gonna be tricky. Adept is better for this because they can go Throw Adept, but you specified Street Sam, so...

I dunno, man. You're gonna need Clubs for melee, clearly, and most of the time having a specialization in improvised weaponry will negate the dice penalty you'll take from 'clumsy' weapons, and most of the improvised weapons in Arsenal do knife-level damage unless you're carrying a sledgehammer around, and if you're doing that, what's the point in improvising your weapons?

Throwing is even harder, since you need to be grabbing something about the size and weight of a brick to do 'throwing knife' level damage, and the size and weight of a bowling ball to do 'good' damage with it.

>>47914902
You'd be better off with 4e implants and weapon launchers, imo.

>>47893548
St. Mary Magdalene's school for wayward girls sponsered by Ares.

One day I will run this.

>>47915375
>>47914902

Pick up two levels of Escrima from Arsenal for +1 DV to your improvised bludgeons and 'deal damage on a disarm attempt', then take Off Hand Training (Clubs), Two Weapon Style, Disarm, and Throw. Buy up Unarmed and Clubs.

Wear a hardliner glove on your main hand if you don't have bone lacing or a cyberlimb.

Then, go into fights like this:

Pick up a random object in your off hand when you start fighting. If there's enough to fill both your hands, great, if not, grab the improvised club in your left hand. You get a +1 to parry attempts with your improvised weapon for dual-wielding melee weapons (The improvised club and your fist, if you only found one good thing to grab).

Whallop people with your main hand, choosing to reserve the off hand for Full Defense, a perk you get from your two Weapon style. Go ahead and take the -4 penalty to activate disarm at this point. You should have an extremely good parry score at this point, so anything to goad them into attacking you in melee is a good idea at this point.

If anyone gets the dumb idea of actually hitting you back, you roll your big parry pool against them. You -should- out-dice them, which means that you get an immediate counterattack with your off-hand improvised weapon, (dealing your regular damage), and their weapon gets knocked away.

At this point you can also trigger Throw to try and throw the dude you just beat and disarmed into another dude. Check your GM if this is acceptable, as it's not mentioned in the 'throw' martial maneuver but 'metahuman body' is listed under improvised thrown weapons. If your GM rules that you can't do this, probably take some other martial arts technique instead of throw, and reconsider having dice in unarmed.

>>47916016
By the way, this whole build doesn't...do the thing if people choose to just shoot you instead of trying to butt-stroke or bayonet you.

So, uh, watch out for that.

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>>47908879
I'm 8 hours late but fucking this

I been gming a 4e game for some time and one of my..."troubled" players picked up a mage and I was cool with that seeing how we was both new I spend my week making sure how spells work how drain works along with getting all the details for what spells my mage has on roll20 in handouts so we can save time along with the rules.

Needless to say when the player didn't spend time to learn how drain works and got up set that they was unable to shoot out F8 spells every round things got annoying. The following week the party did a job and the mage in question for got to clean up any traces of his magic for the 9 week in a row the player wasn't too happy when I told them that KE was able to trace him and he was going to jail he wasn't too happy and say that I either had to give him a way out or he would quit.

I'm down one player but for mages and riggers and the such for your first time make sure the player in question who wants to learn is does read the rules over the first few pages over 12 weeks with the only thing they can say back when asked if they know how the rules work is "I forgot so it should not happen."

if someone wants to play a mage or something else I am looking for one more player leave your skype

Beyond just reading the books are there any resources people new to Shadowrun should really read or watch?

What role is generally most needed?
i have no group and most likely will not have a group for any amount of time, but I want to play and will at least make characters.

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>>47910800
Your limiting factor is in large part going to be access to facilities. A private citizen would have a lot of trouble purchasing the machinery needed to make stuff, particularly headware.
>>47910985
Depends on the girl. She may get offended that you think you're dating, or that you haven't picked up on the fact that you've been dating all this time.
As for wheelman, it's doable without being a rigger but the control rig makes it so much easier to do all the cool shit a wheelman is expected to do. Maybe ask your GM if you can have a quality that allows you to reduce the difficulty like having a control rig?
>>47916833
Depends on the kinds of job you do, really. In terms of swiss-knife usefulness, Mage>Face>Drone Guy>Combat Guy>Wheelman>Infiltrator

Have there been any cases of a ghoul going Punisher to stay alive?

>>47895173

JUST EAT THE FUCKING CRAB RANGOON, AJAY

>>47917373
Eh?

>>47918305
Hunting down and eating bad people.

>>47918314
Don't know why you'd need an example for that.

>>47917373
There's a Vampire who noms on death-row inmates in one of the books. I forget which.

>>47918474
How does he get to them to begin with? He'd have to break into the prison to eat them, which will probably cause a massive security overhaul, unless the guards just straight-up feed them to him.

>>47919057
Bribes. Also, not necessary to kill or mail with HMHVV I.

>>47919331
Maim.

>>47919057

“How do you prefer to do it?”
Red looked up from the cooler of whole blood packs, passing her a B+ as he selected an AB– Magus for himself. “How do you?”
EB paused before sinking a fang into the pouch, smirking at him through purple locks. “The clubs, where you met me. Some sick fuck is always looking for an easy little thing he can force himself on. In my case, they don’t just bite off more than they can chew. They get bit back.”
Red nodded, holding the pouch in his hands. “I have a contact at Lone Star, he gives me access to death row inmates in Darrington.”
She slurped the last of the pack down. “That must cost you a chunk.”
“Not as bad as all that.”
“At least your conscience is clean, right?” she asked.
“Yeah,” he said, “but I always make sure, just in case.”
“What do you mean?”
He took a breath. “Well, there was this one time …”

>>47919057
>>47919400


Buzz. Click. Clatter. The durasteel gate slid open to echo in the long halls. Red followed Sgt. Macnamara past the sealed rows of reinforced doors. Cell after cell of Seattle’s worst, waiting to walk to the chair.
“Forty-four, here we are. Gary Humphreys, multiple homicides. House special for you, I guess?”
“Just open the door and give us some privacy.”
Macnamara shrugged and slid the keycard into the maglock. “Fifteen minutes.”
Red walked into the spartan cell and took in the sole occupant. Humphreys was a short man, middle aged, every indication of being a standard corporate drone. He glanced up at the elf with a mixture of dread and fatigue.
“I’ve still got a week for my lawyer to find proof I didn’t do it. I don’t suppose you’re here to issue a stay of execution?”
Red advanced on him, Humphreys rising to back against the wall, his sudden fear arousing the elf’s hunger. Red pinned him against the wall with a flick of the wrist, telekinetic bonds locking the inmate in place. He leaned close, inhaling and letting the scent of terror extend his canines.
“No…” Humphreys whimpered. “No, no, please…”
“Shhh…” Red placed his hands to each side of Humphreys’ head, silently intoning the blasphemous Latin of his tradition. Their eyes rolled back in synchrony. With a twin gasp, Red broke the connection, taking a step back and appraising the inmate again.
“You didn’t kill them.”
Humphreys slid to the floor, chest heaving from the mind probe. “No … I loved them … how could I kill my own family?”
Red sighed. “Well, dinner’s off.”
“What?”
“Now I have to figure how to get you out of here.”

>>47919057
>>47919400
>>47919420

“So what happened?”
Red ran a hand through the hair that gave him his name and sighed. “I picked up the case where KE left
off. Found the real killer. Found a way to give the Star and Macnamara credit so I could pay down future visits. Humphreys got pardoned and moved to Boston.”
“What happened to the real killer?”
Red smiled darkly and opened the blood pack.

>>47919420
Cont. ?
Tis' good!

When I first changed, I spent my time in the worst parts of Chicago, waiting for some mugger to stick me with a knife for my credstick. As my illusion skills progressed, I could attract rapists and pimps, and get my meal even as I rested easier knowing I was keeping the streets a tiny bit cleaner. You might be amazed how many friends these sort of actions can make you in a neighborhood. You might also enjoy the side benefit of the gear and cash your meals no longer need. Aside from possibly making powerful enemies, it’s a pure win scenario.

Of course, not everyone wants to fight. Ghouls may take over necroplexes or find employment for or as doctors, organleggers, or any other career that offers them their ration of metahuman flesh. Some vampires and other vrykolakiviridae strains can get legal donors who get off on the notion of being fed on. I seem to recall a gothic nightclub in Manhattan that was run by a vampire. He had no shortage of volunteer blood donors. Or they find places where people will die, anyway. I’ve found death-row inmates to be a fairly reliable way to sate the worst of my needs without making anyone innocent suffer. It’s not cheap, but the advantages of Infection have their costs.

>>47919400
>>47919420
>>47919450
>>47919499

This is all from Run Faster, page 124.

>>47913897
I don't think that's a very good molly. I always thought of her tech as being kind of bulky, with larger blades for her razors, and the eye covers protruding from her face more, like goggles.

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>>47912490

>0.01 Essence