/tgesg/ - Weekend Elder Scrolls Lore General

>>47850464
Azura is the best daedra desu, that guy in skyrim gets way to upset when you refuse to corrupt her star

>>47851059
>best daedra
Wow, it's literally nothing

>>47851059
>Azura is the best daedra
Like competing about what pile of shit smells best. It's obvious Malacath.

>>47851059
Yet again I see someone didn't play Morrowind.

>>47851556
I did, but it was some 5-6 years ago, I dont recall Azura doing anything particularly bad in there, the trio had it coming, cursing the entire race is going a bit too far though

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Please explain the Trinidumalarkay theory to me.

>>47851273
Word

>>47851059
>when you refuse to corrupt her star
When you put it that way it just sounds like innuendo.

>>47851059
I liked Azura when I read that book about one of her followers. Acura really cares about her people.

>>47851632
The what what?

>>47851632
I see Trinimac and Arkay in there, can't make out the rest.

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Numidium Daggerfall, Brass golem with carapace like structure around him, tons of spikes and his face is expressive unlike the mask of Akulakhan.

>>47851898
oh fug, yeah it does, I'd totally corrupt her star in that sense

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>>47852122
Carapace added to my vision of Numidium.
Obviously it looks like a clusterfuck because it's layers on top of each other but now time to clean up the layers and add color, then do other other sides of the t-pose and model this guy.

>>47851584
Thing is that Azura's motive for plotting to kill Tribunal is just petty revenge for betraying her and killing Nerevarine. She really isn't that different from other Daedra. The way she talks to player (in Morrowind) is also very egotistical, bitter and generally bitchy. Ironically she seems very much like Almalexia despite Almalexia not being her anticipation, but rather Sotha Sil that is completely different than Azura.

Also, note that the curse is not necessary Azura's doing. It could well be just side effect on Tribunal fucking with heart. Azura took the blame, but it's not clear that she did it and to be honest it's unlikely she would have such powers on Mundus especially in a time when most of the Towers were active.

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>>47852129
Here is the same with color just splattered on him so that you can make it out better.

>>47852187
It looks pretty much as I would picture Numidium myself, except that I would have it's face to be more Dwemer-like with beard and all. It's a nice compromise with portrayals of daggerfall (spiky fleshy/stoney thing) and brass golem style of later games.

>>47852232
It's not visible now because of no coloring and clusterfuck of layers but he has a giant beard that is made up of three joints attached to his chin and colored carapace on these joints.

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>>47852122
>>47852129
>>47852187
I really like how you've been progressing on this.

>>47852384
Thanks, by the way Divine metaphysics always felt like a bit of a fuck up to me.
It's a dwemer text, but the illustration in it is concept art of Akulakhan drawn by MK, even if I didn't have all the concept art collected I would notice it because this portrayal of Numidium is broken in the same way and unfinished in the same way Akulakhan is.

>>47851059
Say Azurah and I'd agree more.
Meridia is still best though.

>>47851919
No, she doesn't, but she's very good at making you think she does.

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>>47851155
>>47851273
>>47851556
>>47852142
>>47852594
azura is PERFECT, delete this NOW

>>47852456
Afaik Akulakhan is pretty much direct copy of the original (it even has Dwemer face, but interestingly, there is some odd connection with Dwemer and Dagoths, possibly has something to do with both being heavy on nihilism), so it doesn't seem that out of place to me. It's a bit ridiculous how both of them are in similar state of construction though.

Though I recall that instead of transmuting souls, the flesh of Akulachan was created out of corprus, but I don't think there were other changes to design.

>>47852773
True, also symbols on akulakhan, and third eye are obviously Sixth House-ish.

>>47852594
>Meridia
>A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON. LISTEN. HEAR ME AND OBEY

she is pretty cool too

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What is the best region in Morrowind and why is it the Bitter Coast?

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>>47852939
Maybe it's the comfy shacks, or rowing through murky waters when there aren't any cliff racers around.

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>>47852947
Maybe it's because you can find civilization where you least expect it.

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>>47852954
Maybe it's the abundance of alchemy ingredients, and you can find solitude in the swamps when you need it.

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>>47852961
Maybe I'm just bumping this thread and hoping you fetchers will post something.

>>47852667
t.Nerevarine

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>>47853055
t. vivec

>>47851584
>cursing the entire race is going a bit too far though
>a bit

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>>47853099
just a prank bro

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have they gone too far?

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>>47853316
Holy shit.

>>47853316
Stolen goods are all jokes

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Should I do it?

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>>47853346

>>47853357
should've changed the filename to 'JUST'

>>47853357
>>47853346
D:

>>47853346
>>47853357
o what happened with that guy in Skyrim that used keening on a soulgem and vanished?

>>47853403
Maybe he mantled Kragenac, not that he would notice

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>>47853403
Arniel Gane?

None of the college members comment on his absence, almost as if he'd never existed.

>>47853430
gonna copy paste this from a few threads back


Do you milk drinkers know about motherfucking YSGRAMOR?

Ebony is the blood of lorkhan. Ysgramor cried ebony tears after the falmer raided Saarthal. Ysgramor is a shezarrine. His tears were used to forge Wuuthrad, which makes it a lorkhanic artifact. It's also enchanted by Ahzidal.

Look at his statue and how he holds Wuuthrad. You can also find his shield in his tomb, which looks hilariously oversized on the player character. The player can't use both his axe and his shield because the axe is two-handed and huge. Ysgramor's statue is life-size, and he was able to use both Wuuthrad and his shield.

According to ''Fragmentae Abyssum Hermaeus Morus'', Ysgramor was nearly turned into an elf by Hermaeus Mora, who took the shape of a hare, but a fox (Shor) saves him, and warns him about elven trickery. This was in Atmora, before Ysgramor had met any elves at all. Shor destined him to go on elf killing sprees before he even knew what they were.

I wish we had more info on this guy, especially about his meetings with Hermaeus Mora.

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Veiled behind his mask of snow,
Which dragons breathed of silver stone,
Calling dead from depths below,
The Crow Thane in his Hall of Bone.

Men thrown to the White Wyrm's maw,
Women, bairns of Winter's Hold,
Spoke he oaths to dragons' law,
Woke he lord of wights and mold.

Wails and tears the wine-wives pine,
For warriors left in blood to drown,
Comes the son of Ysgrim's line,
A young boy in a Jagged Crown.

Nordmen gathering to his calls,
Bearing spears and axes long,
Kin avenging ravaged halls,
Bold and desperate their throng.

Strong are the draugrs' monstrous blows,
Striking skulls of fyrd-men red,
Hundreds lost unto the snows,
Hundreds for the hungering dead.

Ascending arch of jokull-snow,
On sleigh of spruce by mammoth drawn,
Arrows broken on his brow,
No blow may pierce the Jagged Crown.

Charging men in freezing mail,
Ripping rotting flesh and bone,
Harsh the Crow Thane's cursing wail:
The White Wyrm shall break Ysgrim's Throne.

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>>47853469

Rending rebel heart and lung,
Of Crow Thane to his tomb hurled down,
Round his neck he wears the tongue,
The warrior of the Jagged Crown.

Feasting warms the ancient walls,
Of valiant men returning home,
The dead released to Sovngarde's halls,
No longer damned the white to roam.

Roaring sea of deathly hail,
Tearing at Old Windhelm's stone,
Falls the dragon's boasting wail:
The White Wyrm shall break Ysgrim's Throne.

Grey the Crow Thane's snowy veil,
By dragons forged of whispers lost,
Reshaped into a spear of pale,
By the Storm Voice, blood and frost.

White Wyrm's wings in shadowed flight,
Whispering death to lands beneath,
Halls and steads engulfed in night,
Armies shattered in his breath.

Maw unleashing razor snow,
Of dragons from the blue brought down,
Births the walking winter's woe,
The High King in his Jagged Crown.

Sharp the White Wyrm's howling song,
Splits the High King's bones and mail,
Breathing life through torc of tongue,
The spear of fate strikes dragon's scale.

By spear and shout, the dragon's pain,
Breaking scale with singing tone,
The White Wyrm at long last, now slain,
And it could not break Ysgrim's Throne.

By judgment born of war and woe,
The proudest clans and thanes kneel down,
To spear and tongue and breath of snow,
The High King in his Jagged Crown.

>>47853473
>>47853469
?

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>>47853515
learn to appreciate nordic poetry, knife-ear

>50 posts
>13 posters

well atleast we don't have any name/avatar/tripfags so it doesn't look like we're that lonely

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>>47853636
I wanted to respond with something clever, but it's too early in my day for that
So have this

Azura cursing the Chimer is integral to their development as a society. It doesn't matter how she intended it at that point.

>>47852142
There's also the thing about the TGD teaching the Chimer to "wear their skin better" and "pitch their voices the color of bruise."

>>47851632
Usually Dumac isn't a part of it, or is an alternate theory, but depending on the conspiracy is goes something like Arkay and Trinimac are Malacath by way of Orkey, or the Dwemer were transformed into the Orsimer making Dumac Malacath.

>>47853403
If I remember correctly, he was absorbed into the nearest and most powerful vessel: you. You can talk to his ghost later.

Like the Dwemer and the Numidium.

Oh, and DMK.

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How do we fix ES dragons?

>>47853819
They aren't broken.

>>47853832
They are generic as fuck, don't even have tusks.

What's wrong with TES dragons?

>>47851059
Sanguine is way better! He's the Andrew WK of the ES universe.

>>47851273
The Nine Divines are boring. Daedra, they're never boring.

>>47853882
They will never be as good ingame as we imagine

>>47853860
In the games.

It's a good thing these aren't threads about the games.

>>47853936
Because 99% of it doesn't come from them, sure

>>47854018
I'd say it's more like 60%. Maybe even less.

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>>47853860
Oh, you're one of THOSE people...

I'm sorry that bears and spiders and dragons are generic as fuck, what we should have done is given them the lower body of a centipede and bat wings. That would be so creative, it would make for a decent setting after all.

Because we all know the only thing that was any good about Morrowind is that it had dinosaurs, while everything like the world building and detail simply distract from the fact that there are big mushrooms. Let's make everything "Creative" by making every creature a chimera. How do you propose we "fix" dragons? Make them half walrus?

>>47854257
Dragons are already fucking chimeras you n'waggot.

>>47854257
who's lying on the floor?

>>47854277
Tusks it is then. That will make them interesting.

>>47854257
dragons suck because they don't have 4 noses and use math magic instead of of shouts :^(

>>47854303
I think It's Dagoth Ur.

>>47854257
Dragons are already unique in TES while still being distinct from regular dragons and not going overboard with it.

>>47854305
Does Aka-tusk ring any bells?

>>47854373
I'm aware what Aka-tusk is, what I'm saying is that dragons in TES are far more interesting than dragons in other settings, and the things you want to "fix" are just superficial.

A deep setting isn't about having Dwarves made from fire, it's a setting that can explain and integrate the fire-dwarves in an interesting way, instead of saying "Look mom, I made something whacky!"

>>47854447
>A deep setting isn't about having Dwarves made from fire, it's a setting that can explain and integrate the fire-dwarves in an interesting way, instead of saying "Look mom, I made something whacky!"
take notes, 'deep lore'fags

> Yes Mr. Fencer, this one assures you it's a vein from the hearth of Lorkhaj! Went to the Moon and chipped it out myself! Would you like this authentic ancient dwemer as well? Apparently they all look like Imgakins! This one assures you they're both authentic!

>>47854447
First of all, I'm not the person you were taking to, and secondly everyone is ignoring the fact that dragon tusks aren't anything new in TES.

>>47854609
It's just as stupid to think anything "deep" is inherently meaningless.

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>>47853860
>don't even have tusks.

>>47854707
Could you point me in the direction of where it describes all dragons as all having tusks?

>>47854865
These look fucking retarded.

>>47854707
Most of the "deep stuff that is written to seem 2deep4u by the lore community and not the games or developers is in the same vein as when people who say they're a Zen Buddhist start speaking in riddles instead of giving a straight forward answer. It's nonsense meant to give the illusion of depth, and you know it.

>>47854890
I didn't say that. I said dragon tusks aren't anything new in the lore, because they aren't.

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>>47854901
>Asks for tusks
>Get tusks
>Yeah but lol

>>47854935
Are you taking about actual developer material or fan stuff? If the latter, I don't care about that stuff outside of a few monkey truths.

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Friendly reminder that Dark Souls was released in the same year as Skyrim, and despite not being a game where dragon fighting is the main focus, did dragons 1000% better.
Look at Skyrim's uninspired flying lizards and then at this beast.

>>47854936
You mean a name that has tusk in it? You might as well as say that they should have fur because Khajiit describe dragons as big cats, because at least that has an actual source.

>>47854971
Skyrim dragons were amazing, the real deal. The problem is we've all killed hundreds or thousands by now so nobody's given a shit since the first few fights.

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reminder

>>47854963
Fan stuff, and some developer material. Specifically one developer who who browses reddit a lot and gets an ego high on people making nonsense and then him telling them that it was always meant to be. The same person who says that continents are time.

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>>47855004
They don't even have any interesting features.

>>47854972
You could just ask if you want to know more.

See the post directly below you.

>>47855004
I lost all wonder when I saw a bear kill a dragon.

>>47854971
That looks like a stylized creature who's only purpose in life is to be beaten by the player.
While I don't really like the combat, at least skyrim dragons looked like they were a creature of the world.

>>47855017
Here's how I know you're an idiot: Even at its weirdest, Kirkbride's lore is well and beyond more constructed and comprehensible than virtually any other video game mythology.

Yes, even the continent thing.

>>47855052
Dragons are immortal demitimegod beings, not creatures.

>>47855038
That's more a fault of bears being overpowered demigods than dragons themselves.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Dragonskin_(perk)

>>47855052
You would be saying the opposite in a Dark Souls thread.

>>47855094
I'm sure that dragon fits into the souls universe.
But that universe isn't meant to be lived it, it's meant to be played in.

>>47855023
A Dragon Priest mask that's stylized means all dragons need to have had tusks? You think that is an actual source, even though it's in the same game where dragons do not have walrus tusks?

Please, educate my ignorant ass, and post a book, dialogue, or even an actual source?

>>47855112
That...can't really be substantiated.

>>47855126
Haven't I said a few times now that not all dragons have tusks, but dragon tusks are still a thing?

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>>47855074
Lady N, is that you? Or are you another person who sucks MK's cock?

Either way, kuckbride isn't canon.

>>47855129
Yes it can?
What does that dragon eat and what does skyrim dragons eat
Skyrim dragons can have weapons of fallen soldiers and such, no indication what souls dragons eat

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The shit-flinging begins.

>>47855192
Dragos are beings on the same level as Morihaus. They probably don't need to eat at all.

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>>47855161
No, a mask that has tusks is a thing, and so are masks with Airbender arrows on them, but that doesn't mean dragons are The Avatar.

>>47854971

Dragon's Dogma dragon fights were all I wanted from dragon battles. DS dodging and stuff was pretty cool, but nothing beats being able to climb on a dragon and stab its heart or wings out.

>>47855184
>kuckbride isn't canon
What does that even mean when most of his texts ever written for TES are ingame?

>>47855248
The in-game stuff is canon, the things like continents being time or c0da are not only not in-game, but non canon, which people seem to forget.

>>47855184
Nether you or I have any say in that, but if you're here for anything other than that I don't know what your priorities are.

Have fun taking about... The great war? With none of the stuff about the Thalmor outside of "they're racist."

Or, uh, your favorite Demon, I mean Deadra, but nothing deeper than "they're evil."

Or you could just keep posting reaction images of characters MK helped to create.

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>>47854971
Skyrim didn't even those Dragons
This design exists ever since Redguard

>>47855244
Yeah, that would be a good point if it wasn't for the other references to dragon tusks there are.

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>>47855161
I gave you dragons with tusks, but you said "But it's ugly" stop shitposting, I'm done, I urge you all to do the same.

>>47855272
And you are retarded because continents being time was not written by MK and C0DA is not meant to be canon, C0DA is about canon.

>>47855294
I have no idea what you're taking about, and I'm being confused with another poster again.

>>47855272
So Akavir is the future?

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>>47855274
>He thinks MK wrote all the lore
>He thinks that the Prism extraction is canon
>He thinks gods with orange and blue morality beyond our comprehension is something new, and something invented by MK
>He thinks I'm not allowed to post TES related reaction images.

Of all the S'wits I've seen on the internet, you are the saddest.

>>47855356
Yes.

>>47853515

Thanks for reposting, I'm making a few edits though before the final UMSO version

>>47855378
Oh, it's you.

I really liked the poem :)

>>47855363
>Implying implications
There's basically nothing untouched by "MK lore."

That's the only relevant part of your post.

>>47855291
Like the name Aka-tusk, or is there something else you could have posted back when I asked for a source?

Why did /tgesg/ had to go to shit today?

>>47855395

Thanks!

>>47855408
Some retard wanted tusks or something, I stopped following the conversation a while ago

>>47855408
Some guy thought dragons weren't cool enough and wanted them to be walruses, and half assed any reason for it.

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>>47855425
>drags should have tusks
>but they do
>but that looks stupid
>but im not the same poster
>but dark souls
>but tusks
>but im not the same poster again
>but canon

Can you grow mushroom houses in mainland skyrim

1. Get some cheap 3D graphics modeling software

2. Extract Dragon in-game model meshes from Skyrim .bsa

3. Copy files and photoshop tusks onto all of them

4. Give the tusks an ugly texture

5. make a mod replacing the old dragon models with the new tusked ones

6. upload to nexus, describe your file as a requirement for a truly lore-immersive Skyrim experience

7. become known as Tuskwiz

8. get hired by Bethesda as their new loremaster

>>47855465
Possibly, but not likely. The ash from red mountian is what helped grow the Emperor Parasol mushrooms, from which the Telvanni grow their towers.

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>>47855425
>>47855443
I just pitched an idea, fags, but then people had to go full autism.
I thill think Skyrim dragons don't have anything interesting going for them. Same boring looks, same retarded gameplay, only this handsome beast was somewhat unique.

>>47855405
Off the top of my head...

>Our crest is the tusk of the bat-tiger

>Ka Po' Tun is the "Tiger-Dragon's Empire". The cat-folk here are ruled by the divine Tosh Raka, the Tiger-Dragon.

>He is the largest Dragon in the world, orange and black, and he has very many new ideas.

>...the Tiger-Dragon Emperor

>Shor shook his scaled mane.

>Orlyan the Inverse Tiger of Cyrod, Black with Orange Stripes

And Almalexia's tusked mask, and this tusked mask:
>>47854987

>>47855017
Please read the OP.

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Whaddya guys think of my Rorikstead?

>inb4 '>minecraft'

>>47855500
I wonder if the shrooms in morrrowind have started growing out of control because of all the ash now

>>47855501
Have you ever considered that it wasn't a good idea, or that people are fine with dragons that look like dragons because they're interesting enough without having 5 wings?

Gameplay is something I sympathize with, but that's not really something that can be helped. There is a mod that makes it a bit better, but the game system can only do so much while doing other things properly.

>>47855501
I fucking loved that room, wish there were more dungeons like that.

You walk into this fuckhuge cavern, skeletons start flanking you from both sides (and there's actual mage skeletons with hoods) and then that fucking dragon climbs out of the ravine and rushes you.

>>47855532

>the original dragons should have tusks because a guy who became a dragon by mantling Aka who is on a separate continent and has never even been to Tamriel has them

>>47855548
For the final time, whether you like it or not, tusks or not, TES dragons are already completely separate from the dragons of other series in everything except their visual appearance, and only in the games.

They are already "unique" and this is not new.

>>47855548
I actually liked the use of shouts over conventional fire breathing.

>>47855586
Are you fucking retarded?

>>47855605

cool your jets, Tuskwiz

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>>47855548
>people are fine with dragons that look like dragons because they're interesting enough
Maybe if they are faggots without an ounce of imagination. Look at Morrowind's main enemies. Fucking look. Then look at Skyrim's oversized lizards. Even Oblivion did it better.

I would love them having tusks as a symbol of power and feathered wings to reinforce the connection to Auri-El.

>>47855532

>C0da

>Cat parallel, a creature with fangs, not tusks.

>Mask that has nothing to do with dragons, and stylized mask.

>>47855592
Bruh, that's what I'm saying.

only the dwemer can know peace from this autism

>>47855630
Don't take their depiction in Skyrim too literally.

Even then, to the Altmer they do have feathers, and to the Khajiit they are cats, to the Imperials they are tigers (maybe) and yes, even some of them have tusks.

It would have been better if they had tusks in Skyrim. But just because they didn't doesn't mean the concept is wrong, in the same way that the cities would have more than a dozen citizens.

We're not seeing the real Tamriel. We never will.

>Akatosh
>Aka-Tusk
>Raka Tosh
>Auri-El

that's not how you spell All-Maker, fags

bet you don't even live in oneness with the land

>>47855184
>le ebin cuck maymay
Keep making a fool of yourself, it's getting funny.

>>47855649
>Zero legitimate criticism

>>47855668
Well then, I guess what I'm saying is that tusks aren't a point on contention at all.

>>47855702
Alright, guy.

>>47855630
Nigger Akatosh in Oblivion looked the fucking same, so did Nafalilargus in Redguard
>>47855289
This is an established design

>>47855716
Nothing you posted means that they have tusks. I figured it was self evident, so I guess I'm here again to state it out loud for you.

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What cultures have a bardic tradition? As far as I know it's only really touched upon in Skyrim.

somebody post some nice cityscape (towns and villages will do aswell) art btw, I don't have much in my TES folder

>>47855630

There are dragons with tusks in the Dragonborn expansion and a dracolich in the Dawnguard expansion.

There is also a mod called Deadly Dragons that has double the number of dragon textures as the base game, just download it, open the editor and use the ones you like, if it satisfies your autism.

>>47855695
>We're not seeing the real Tamriel.
We are in ESO :^)
Jokes aside, I already know we won't get crazy shit like in Morrowind ever again. Still it's interesting to think what could be done.

>>47855769
>dracolich in the Dawnguard expansion
that guy was cool

wish there were more necromancer dragons, threatening cities with armies of undead they raise through shouts

>>47855760
Can you read?

How many times do I have to say that just because not all dragons have tusks that doesn't mean that dragon tusks don't exist?

Not all dragons have tusks.

Dragon tusks still exist.

>>47855716
It's something that most people don't find that important. Dragons looking like dragons is fine for most people since that's not what they're concerned about, it's when you stated that they should have been a certain way when they were always this way that irked some people.

>>47855767
It's pretty much just Skyrim, but there's a lot there as it is.

>>47855465
Probably not in somewhere like Winterhold, but maybe Riften. Riften probably got covered in Ash during the Red Year

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>>47855769
Oh boy I do love me some palette swaps.

>>47855816
I'm still not that person, but I think the person I'm arguing with says they shouldn't have tusks at all.

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>>47855806
I can read, nigger, what I'm saying is I don't understand how you understand that not all dragons have tusks (Even if tigers had tusks), it how you continue to complain that Skyrim dragons don't have them (If that is you) and still claim that dragon/tiger thing means they have tusks.

So do dragons have tusks or not

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>this thread

>>47855926
No. Not from what we've seen or heard.

>>47855926

sometimes

>>47855926
Yes, if you count massive protruding bottom teeth as tusks
>>47854938
>>47854865
And it has been established how dragons look since Redguard.
>>47855289
And this thread is going to shit so we need to stop.

>>47855900
Yeah, I keep getting confused with someone else.

I never said dragons in Skyrim should have tusks, but I do agree that they should.

There's zero evidence for why they shouldn't, and some slim evidence establishing a precedence.

The tiger/dragon thing is just an aside linked to the "bat tiger" (bat+tiger=dragon) and how the appearances of dragons differ in a variety of locations (that tend to be about tigers).

>>47855988
That's more of a fang really.

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>>47855994
>slim evidence

>>47855926
Sometimes.

>>47856021
Yes, slim evidence that dragon tusks are a thing.

The appearance of a dragon without tusks doesn't disprove anything, because not all dragons have tusks.

Holy fuck this is silly

>>47856062
This is why we need a new game. Or at least a new book.

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I don't see tusks here either, if that means anything.

What lore relevant things were brought up in the books?

>>47856093
It doesn't.

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>>47855948
>>47855988
>>47855962
>>47855994

Okay here's an explanation involving DEEP LORE.

So far, only three player characters have seen the dragons:

1) the HoonDing
2) Sheogorath
3) Ysmir

In all cases, these are heroic figures who shape fate.

The tusks are the symbol of time(Aka). The dragons are part time, the heroes are part of time, ordinary people are not, however. Anyone who isn't a god or dragonborn sees dragons as having tusks, because from their cosmic perspective the dragons have them. Anyone who already draws power from Aka-Tusk, however, has 16-dimensional tusks of his own on the aetheric plane and so from his perspective is equally matched from the dragon, both are cosmic beings, both are tusks already and so neither perceive the tusks of the other.

tl;dr dragons have tusks but people mantling gods can't see them because they are them

>>47856102
A bunch of stuff.
Vvardenfell being destroyed.
I can't think of anything else.

>>47856111
Well, it's an interesting interpretation at least.

>>47856111
>Only the PC doesn't see them, but they're there, I know it...
Tuskwiz, you're about to start going full Time Cube.

>>47854971
>m-muh dork souls
pls go

>>47856102
Levitation is still a thing, and can still be achieved through Alchemy.

>>47856111
But wouldn't that mean those mantling people would have tusks, if seen by the common person?
That would be kind of weird.

>>47856176
>Cyrus confirmed for being an Orc.

>>47856176
If you're playing as an Orc, I guess.

Orkatosh.

>>47856176

The LDB does get tusks once he gets Konahrik's mask

>>47856176
it's more of a metaphorical thing, and different for everyone

the dragonborn has tusks on his helmet (or as most people would call it, 'horns'), cyrus has a big brown tusk in his pants

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>>47856209
>Orkatosh.
DEEPEST LORE
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>>47856220
I'm not sure that stereotype exists in TES.

>>47856174
>levitation was removed because of closed cities

thanks consoles, bringing TES' potential down as usual

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>>47856248
Why else would nords talk about 'curved swords' all the time?

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>>47853316
It's all supposed to be a joke. Because the people of Tamriel don't know the lore like the player does if they can't meta for crap.

>>47856266
Because they're doomed to having a curved dick, not a big one.
It ain't bad unless it's really pronounced, but you might have to fuck a girl sideways to hit the g spot.

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>>47855630
Well you're dumb as hell, moving on to legit Skyrim complaints.

Why couldn't Imperials have local produced armor? It should make more sense that local garrisons get supplies of weapons and arms from blacksmiths in the province rather than getting that shipped all the way from Cyrodiil

>>47856332
They do have local produced armor, it's just that I can't fill an order that big in time.

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>>47856332
>>mfw we'll never see Valenwood made Imperial Dragon Armor made of bones and metal.

>>47856353
Yeah but it sucks that it wasn't featured in game. I would think that they would outsource production to multiple smiths to keep up with demand, and even then mostly use it for equipping fresh recruits in Skyrim, while soldiers that were bought from Cyrodiil would keep/repair their own kit they bought from home.

>>47856353
Why don't they just ask Eorlund Greymane for help?

dragons are gay.

>>47856396
not as gay as you, pelinal

>>47856396
Nah, it's just that Jills look the same.

>>47856102
>>47856077
What books are canon? I want to read them

>>47856513
Both of them are canon. The sleeping tree in Skyrim is a reference to it.

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we're posting memes now

the unfunnier the better

>>47856274
Golden stolen items?

>>47856547
I mean what are they called?

>>47856332

They do, lots of blacksmiths talk about how the Imperials want to buy huge amounts of mass-produced armor from them. And then there are guards in Solitude who have the same pattern of bracers and greaves as some of the Imperial soldiers.

>>47856536
jokes aside it's Ehlnofey, they create generally any law of the universe

>>47856392

He only makes stuff for the Companions iirc

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>>47856580
Yeah but that's just the guards in Solitude. We don't see any Imperial soldiers outside in the camps with that kind of Skyrim-produced gear. Just the standard issue !Roman stuff

>>47856674
There is CHIM on /v/, /vg/ and /tg/ though, it's just that CHIM drives the conversation on /vg/.

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>>47856730
I thought it was
>muh waifu harem

>>47856578
The infernal city and Lord of Souls

>>47856789
It is, then someone shouts
>CHIM
mid waifufaggotry

if we get to the bump limit we can quickly sneak in another thread to continue into monday and tuesday

Or you can make another thread on Monday if you want.

>>47856710
they probably wanted to give the legionaires a more "alien" look compared to the native stuff, so that normalfags can spot the difference instantly

>>47856933
>>47856906
Just make it if there's enough discussion, or let it die if it's tusk or map size autism

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>>47856952
>generic roman
>alien

the problem here is that skyrim depicted imperials as foreign invaders instead of locally recruited men and women.

Now this is weapons-grade autism.

>>47856958
>t skyrim depicted imperials as foreign invaders
thats what I am saying, they wanted imperials to look foreign compared to the stormcloaks that are supposed to look native

by alien I meant "people who dont belong here" not weird

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>>47856956
Someone say map autism?

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>>47856555
>the unfunnier the better
Oh boy, do I have some unfunny memes for you.

>>47852142
>the way she talks to player (in morrowind) is also egotistical
I dont recall this in Morrowind.

>>47856982
map size autism, the previous shitstorm from a couple weeks ago

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lemme post some actual maps

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>>47856555
here some 9gag-tier meme

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>>47856995
>farmer

got me

>>47857064
>baseball
>not muatra

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>>47857107

>>47856956
There is literally nothing wrong with tusks.

>>47857152
>only 5.4 on imdb
Pretty sure it's shit.

>Azura

The Demon Prince of Nothing is not the best /anything/. She claims credit for all kinds of things, and makes utterly useless "prophecies" that she then works behind the scenes to bring to fruition (protip: that's not how "real" prophecy works) and is always very quick with her empty threats, but the power she has is purely illusory.

>>47857127
How cold are the Telvanni Islands supposed to be, and why didn't Akavir invade there instead of Skyrim?

>>47857182
As cold as Sheogorad, probably.

>>47857182
nirn is a globe, skyrim is closer to akavir

>>47857014
After you become Nerevarine main quest is all about Azura forcing you to do stuff and it's not very subtle.

>>47857207

Is the globular nature of Nirn actually supported in-game? I always imagined it as flat.

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Who is hyped for TES6 Valenwood?
also, rate provinces
Valenwood>High Rock>Summerset isle>Cyrodil>Hammerfel>Skyrim>Morrowind>Elsweyr>Black Marsh

Daggerfall is the best Elder Scrolls. Prove me wrong

>>47857240
>TES VI: Jokemer's "Jungle" Adventure
No thanks.

>>47857236
Yeah, Nirn is a sphere as are all planets. Hell, Mages Guilds have their own globes, and the Orrey or whatever in Oblivion.

>>47857270
But I can't, you're totally correct.

>>47857221
>After you become Nerevarine
What do you mean by this? Because after you are actually named Nerevarine the only thing you really have to do is collect the tools and kill Dagoth. Are you referring to the retrieval of Moon-and-Star?
>Azura forcing you to do stuff
Azura never forces you to do anything. I think at one point she tells you the next step in the prophecies but those steps are known beforehand anyways iirc.

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>>47857240
>TES[>=4]
>hyped

>>47857240
Pretty hyped. Here's hoping it takes a Princess Mononoke feeling to it. Hopefully they may take some of the better design decisions from Breath of the Wild, or the armor system of FO4.

Highrock > Morrowind > Summerset = Skyrim = Elsweyr > Cyrodiil > Valenwood = Hammerfell > Blackmarsh.

>>47857270
I like it, and I really like Highrock, but I find that it's a bit too clunky for me at time. I don't know if I'll ever finish it.

>Skyrim
>not even 5 years old
>graphics are fine
>gets remastered

>Oblivion
>10 years old
>potato face
>constant crashes
>no remaster

>>47857348

The Cavern of the Incarnate is the evidence of Azura's duplicity. You're /not/ the Nerevarine, there is no such thing, you're just Azura's pawn and the tool of her retribution.

>>47857462
Which one do you honestly think makes more money.

>>47857394
I don't get this obsession with High Rock and Bretons that some people have. To me they seem like another race ripped straight from real word like Nords up to their name. Sure they have some elven blood and innate abilities for magic, but is that all?

Could someone educate me what makes them special?

>>47857462
It would take them way less time to "remaster" Skyrim

>>47857471
No?
That just means you need all the traits, the point was it can not just be anyone who kinda follows the traits

>>47857483
not him
As a fan of LOTR i love the idea of humans with elf blood. But it's pretty much this.

>>47857471
you aren't the nerevarine, but there is such a thing

you mantle nerevar during the main quest and become the nerevarine

>>47857549

Yeah, no. You're telling me Azura herself doesn't know if someone /is/ the Nerevarine beforehand? She just kept trying until /someone/ managed to "fulfil" her prophecies, it literally didn't matter to her who actually managed this, even if they weren't a dark elf or even an elf at all.

>>47857580

That's not possible either since Nerevar was just some guy, he didn't use the tools and become a god.

>>47857603
She didnt try anything, they thought they were the nerevarine, they were wrong and got bitchslapped for it.
She had no part in the actions of those in the cavern.

>>47857580
I hate to break it to you but mantling is a speculation born out of highly allegoric accounts and a meme. Only thing canon on TES metaphysics is that it's beyond mortal reasoning.

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>>47857483
I really like the idea and feeling behind them. Highrock seems like a very comfy fantasy place like Hyrule. There's also the feuding lords that adds a lot of interest, but then again I prefer political intrigue campaigns and ASOFI is one of my favorite book series.

I also quite like the diversity they have. They make up a large number of agents and bards, but are also excellent wizards, and renowned for knights and adventurers.

I also love playing them. Not just for their racials, but for the feeling of being an adventurer in a foreign and strange land.

One of the most important things is how up to interpretation a lot of things are about them. How are Jephre and Phynaster worshiped, what exactly didn't Daggerfall cover, how are Bretons more in touch with nature, how is elven culture still prominent in Breton culture and in what ways, and how is magic such a huge part of everyone's lives? I feel that of all the races, they still have a lot to expand on with Bretons, although the same could be said for Argonians.

>>47857667
>they thought they were the nerevarine

How did they come to this conclusion? Same way you did, via Azura.

>they were wrong and got bitchslapped for it.
She had no part in the actions of those in the cavern.

Except that it's HER test? Why didn't she tell them, "you're not the Nerevarine"? Because they /could/ have filled the role, had they managed to finish her "prophecy"!

>>47857603
This is evidenced by the cave being full of failed Nerevarines. Also "Moon and Star" killing anyone who isn't Nerevarine seems to be just made up by Azura in order to restrict it to her chosen ones. It's about not mantling or reincarnation, but rather Azura choosing someone as her champion which is similar to how other Daedra manipulate and use mortals because their powers are very limited on Mundus.

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>>47857240
>Elsweyr and Hammerfell that low

>>47857698
This guy no whats up. High Rock itself is just a good old fantasy land. And Bretons are easy to self insert as in any of the other games

>>47857716
Because it's not her job to tell people they're being retarded

>>47857727

This. Azura's "prophecy" is nothing of the sort, it's just a trick to fool the player into becoming her champion and exacting her petty revenge to the great cost of the Dunmer people that she supposedly "loves".

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>>47856952
Even so, I still would have wanted some goddamn Imperial Dragon Armor. Is that too much to ask?

>>47857762
>535px-SR-concept-6877572875.jpg
See these fucking tusks?

>>47857747

You can't find the Cavern without her blessing, she allowed those people to try because /she/ knows that there is no "real" nerevarine, and all she needs is someone-- ANYONE-- who can finish her trials.

>>47857716
I remember that some of failed ones actually passed the tests of prophecy, but perished fighting Dagoth Ur, so basically they almost did it.

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>>47857483

>>47857698
This and they smoke weed and are the best cooks. Also Breton women are qts.

>>47857762

Aggravating how the concept artists all fucking love spears but they're nowhere to be seen in any of the games past Morrowind.

>>47857779
Wasn't this hot chick the master trainer of Destructiion?

>Ten Races
>Ten D&D alignments

Coincidence?

>>47857787

Weird, is what it is. How hard is it to animate a spear?

>>47857796
There are much more than 10 races.

>>47857769
aaaaand we're back to the shitposting

>>47857792
Yeah, she is. One of so called secret masters.

>>47857792
Yep, I also married her in Morrowind when I found out the Master Alchemy trainer in Morrowind was an old lady in one of the books. Dodged a bullet.
>>47857796
pls no.

>>47857796
There are 9 alignments.

>>47857824
And yet she doesn't sell any destruction spells.

>>47857833

She's an academic not a mage.

>>47857809
It's not about it being hard, but rather probably because they don't just care or it's some obscure console memory limitation like the case with closed cities. They once did Skyrim gamejam where they had working spears among other things. Sadly none of that stuff released as mods.

>>47857462
its a re-release for new consoles, not a remaster, for fucks sake they are just calling it a special edition, how many times does this shit need to be explained?

>>47857825
>most morrowind master trainers appear in skill books

It's the little details.

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>>47857820
Tuskposting.

>>47857833
If you're going to her, you probably don't need any. That or she swore to not use it and chose a humble life of farming instead.

>>47857849
a lot of the gamejam stuff was used in DLCs fortunately

not fucking spears though, unless you count riekling spears

fuck you todd

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>>47857787
>>47857809

Same thing as everything else they wanted in Skyrim that didn't make it: They're Bethesda.

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>>47857740
i like Hammerfell, but it's not as good as the Elven states. And i hate furries.

>>47857849

Closed cities makes good sense, hardly an obscure issue it makes a massive difference to the games running. Cutting spears just makes zero sense, I can only imagine it had soemthign to do with the skilllist being cut to 18, but "bladed weapons" and "pole weapons" would cover just about everything anyway so who the fuck nows.

>>47857863
>ywn talk with sotha sil about nerdy metaphysics stuff

fuck you almalexia, fucking whore

>>47857875

Actually Skyrim being released at least a month too early was all down to ZeniMax.

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>>47857877
>Elves
>Good
Pick one

>>47857892
Given that they cut tons of other weapons too. I suppose it's something really stupid like "this game can't have too many weapons or casuals will be confused" kind of reasoning that isn't even true, but could well be within delusions that Bethesda seems to have about casual gamers.

>>47857913
>Not wanting to live longer due to being of superior blood.
>Not wanting that superior elf metabolism.
Whatever fatty.

>>47857965
>not being able to adjust eating habits based on your metabolic rate

>>>/fit/

>>47857240
Morrowind>Hammerfel>Valenwood>Elsweyr>Summerset isle>Cyrodiil (jungled)>Black Marsh>High Rock>Skyrim>Cyrodiil (current form)

>>47858027
>Not liking ottermode
What are you, gay?

>>47857240
You have terrible taste
>>47858050
You don't

>>47858069
I'm actually going for ottermode t b h

>>47858105
Valen and High Rick have the best girls.

>>47858166
>choosing provinces based on pussy
That's so beta it's sad.

Besides Vehk is best grill anyway

>>47858143
Same. It's been hard, but I've cut down lot of weight. Trying to get in shape so I can join the military right now, but I suck at cardio.

>>47858195
Not him, but having a qt witch grill in Highrock is only part of the reason it's my favorite province.
>>47858166
>High Rick
I don't think I've seen that episode. Rick's normally drunk from what I recall.

>>47858199
make house redoran proud

>>47858166
You know what the best part of fugging a Bosmer girl is?

You know she's going to swallow.

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>>47858257

>>47858166
>Protein farting cannibal who can't even wipe her ass with leaves and might bite your dick off.
Nah, I'm good.

>>47858257
>>47858331
feeling somewhat conflicted now

>>47857471
The Moon-and-Star was crafted to kill anyone who is not Nerevar. Being able to put it on means that you are with no question, the Nerevarine.

>>47858331
Sounds exciting.

someone posted these last thread and I thought they were pretty cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckwlr3r0290
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5qb8Bor0hI

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>>47858351
Bosmer girls literally swallow your dick
What is there to be confused about

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>people that don't understand common mantling are majority of /tgesg/ now
what the fuck

>>47858354
That's, of course, the official story.

>>47858393
lorenoob here, where did it come from?

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>>47858393
>people who think mantling is actually a thing are the majority of tgesg now