EDH/Commander general

>>47697120

Why is a 13 year old girl dressed as a gay pirate?

>>47697180
Why aren't you?

OP's edition has me wondering about a Guy Fieri deck. All I can think of is Greed and Ulamog, The Ceaseless Hunger. I don't even know who the general would be.

>>47697257
He Who Hungers, duh.

>>47697180
Silly Anon, that's a 13-year old boy dressed as a gay pirate.

>>47697310
Jesus that's a terrible card

>>47697310
But then you lose green and all its hunger/feed cards

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>>47697351
Is it, though?

>>47697396
In that case, The Gitrog Monster.

>>47697351

It's not THAT bad, it's obviously spirit tribal only but in spirit tribal it's a mind slash stapled to an okay body with soul shift as well

>>47697257
Stuff a bunch of Devour cards in there

>>47697257
So, Gitrog Monster as the Commander. Put in Ulamog the Ceaseless Hunger, He Who Hungers, Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger.

Greed, as many things with Devour as you can, Devour Flesh, Feast of the Unicorn, Faceless Devourer, etc.

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>>47697120
>mfw i have a pirate deck that smashes the shit out of people

Does Mycoloth work better in mimeoplasm reanimator or new ezuri aggro and dorks?

>>47697496
Devour with a tribal subtheme.

Have someone 'alter' all your token makers with a sharpie. Your Thallids no longer make Saprolings, they make Nacholings. You don't get a Spider token from Penumbra Spider, you get a Slider token. You don't get Elf tokens, you get E.L.F.udge tokens. You don't get Wurm tokens, you get Gummi Wurm tokens.

>>47697537

Ehh, I'd say newzuri I guess

The card is kinda slow but newzuri speeds it up so that's cool

I can see why you'd want to copy it with mimeo and that also speeds it up using mimeo's counters, but the result is just a decent number of tokens during upkeeps, and I think thats strong but not necessarily better than avenger of zendikar or other token making creatures

>>47697522
Have you posted it here? I've seen a Pirate deck in these threads that was a fucking masterstroke in terms of flavor

>>47697521
Hot soup
Brindle Boar
Protean Hulk

>>47697708
Don't forget to wash it down with Bottle Gnomes.

>>47697537
I think Ezuri. Say you only devour one thing, and that leaves you with just Ezuri and no experience counters on turn... 4.

Next upkeep, you get two Saprolings, which gives you two counters, and then Ezuri can put two counters onto your Mycoloth. Next turn it makes four Saprolings, which gives you four Experience counters, and then Ezuri can put six counters on your Mycoloth. Then next upkeep it makes 10, etc, etc.

>>47697257
Nourishing Shoal

>>47697762
Food Chain, Feed the Clan, Feed the Pack, Cruel Feeding, Feeding Frenzy, GUILTFEEDER, Urge to Feed, Spike Feeder, Time to Feed

>>47697730

I feel where you are coming from, but say you have Mycoloth and a random creature in your graveyard, you play mimeoplasm as a 4/4 (assuming no creatures to devour) and you get however many counters automatic, then you put that many saproling into play right at your next upkeep

Newzuri grows it faster but mimeoplasm gets you that value quicker, which is kind of the difference between newzuri and mimeoplasm in general, newzuri is kinda durdly and mimeoplasm is splashy

>>47697914
Why not both?

>>47697680
have not posted any of my decks here but it is flavorful as fuck

pirates
stealing shit
sea monsters
anything with a pirate theme to it

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>>47697929
Original question asker. I only have 1 mycoloth and don't feel like buying another. Already have Avenger in Ezuri as well, but I run alot of sac outlets in ezuri too so I'll need to give this some thought.

>>47697929

Tru

>>47697406
Yes. Yes it is.

What are the best Elves to run in mono-green Ezuri?

Kinda new.

>>47698025
http://edhrec.com/commander/Ezuri,%20Renegade%20Leader/#creature

>>47698025
Priest of Titania and Elvish Archdruid enable insane mana ramp.

>>47697257
Consume the Meek.

>>47698025
Elvish Archdruid, Priest of Titania, Joraga Treespeaker, Elvish Champion. I personally run B/G elves using Rhys and Nath. Shaman of the Pack can be spicy

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>>47698036
>>47698047
>>47698057
Thanks senpai.

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http://deckstats.net/deck-10299123-8d81a712fd2ba9060ed287c67599eb9b.html

I need help figuring out 5 more things to cut.
Man, EDH deck building gets hard once you get down to needing to cut those last few cards to make the 99.

>>47698111

I think gleam of battle is a good cut, not the worst card ever but it's your most overcosted and durdly anthem effect

Fight or flight is kinda cool and I've never seen it before, but it also seems like it's a little underwhelming and you can probably cut it

Chandra the firebrand seems like one of the worse Chandra's, although I can see how it would be sweet with all your extra combat sorceries

Radiate seems like a very situational card that might be clogging up your hand when you'd rather just be spending your mana on other things

Patron of the Akki is kinda in a similar position to gleam of battle where it's one of your more expensive anthems and could be a potential cut

>>47697931
Who's the commander, or can you post the list.

>>47698381

Look at the OP you dingus

>>47698381
Anon there is 1 legendary Pirate in the entire game and it's in the OP

>>47697257
Eater of days, eaten by spiders, polukranos - world eater, eater of hope, eater of the dead, fat ass (from unhinged)

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>>47698401
>>47698411
I must have went blind temporarily to have missed that. Anyone got a list though.

>>47698411
Skeleton ship is 110% pirate

>>47698477
Skeleton subtype tho

>>47697257
Marshdrinker Giant

Shame you can't blink him in Golgari colors

>>47698111
is there actually some place where you can get cards with altered art like this that is the same quality as normal cards?

I'm honestly a big proponent of picking a general that suits the tribe, rather than a general that necessarily is of that tribal type.

Like I consider Abzan to be the best color combination for Tribal Knights, so I wouldn't force myself into Jund or Monowhite if I was running Knight Tribal just to get a Knight for a general.

Same way if I wanted to do like Samurai, I'd prefer it to be Boros rather than monocolor.

>>47698676
Why would Abzan be best for Knights instead of Mardu?
I had a deck that was tribal Knights, but I used Tariel as the general. Worked real well too, since Tariel would distract people's removal from the actual threats I had - like my Knights themselves.

>In a new town
>Decide to go to commander night
>Bring my Derevi Bird Tribal
>Group has Xenagos, Oloro, and Kemba
>As soon as Xenagos sees my commander he rolls his eyes and tells the group "Here it comes" to the whole table
>I explain to him it is tribal not control/stax/prison whatever the fuck he was thinking
>"Sure thing bud"
>The entire game he "suggests" to the other players that they should target all my resources be for my deck goes off
>play cards like wing mate roc and Xenagos player says, "see here it comes"
>Game finally end with Xenagos going infinite with sprout swarm and Craterhoofs
>Kemba comments that was a close game

Help me.

>>47698712
This is a nice variation on a pasta dish I like

>>47698712
>"Hey, bud, we're all here to have fun, so lay off a little. If you want, you can look through my deck after the game to confirm it's not Derevi.dec"
I hate asses (no not the creature type) as much as anyone, but the only way to defeat them is to be either cordial or sickly sweet, any kind of negative reaction only spurns them on more.

>>47698712

You deserve it for building something stupid like bird tribal

>>47698702
There are a lot of GW Knights I like. I'll admit, Red Knights are classic, but there are a fair share of both and green has a lot more "tribal matters" cards.

>>47698712
sucks to suck at politics. But seriously you should consider a different general if you don't want hate. No one goes to fight club with a gun and says "no seriously guys, it's just for pistol whips"

>>47698712
I think I know you. The guys at our local shop still talk about your bird legacy decks and I got into a conversation with you about how Derevi is perfect for bird tribal, if only she wasn't so good.

>>47698712
Bird tribal is only decent in Legacy you dummy. How do you expect to throw out Soulcatcher's Aerie within a few turns in EDH?

I want to build Newzuri elf tribal. The synergy between him and Joraga Warcaller was enough to sway me. Never done elfball before, though. Any spicy tech I should keep an eye out for?

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>>47698908
Kangee is best bird wizard tribal husbando

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>>47699065
Bird wizard ultra combo

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>>47699124
Don't forget this little guy.

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r8 h8 masterb8

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>first EDH night in forever this weekend
>build a deck on Tappout and order it last week
>cards got here today
>Commander nowhere to be found

Turns out when you do a mass entry from Tappedout onto TCGPlayer, it doesn't actually fucking add the fucking commander to the fucking cart.

I'm so god damn mad right now and I have no one but myself to blame. Holy shit.

>>47699396
Use a proxy and let em know you'll have your commander next time you guys play.

>>47699415
This, really its personal preference, inpersonally like to own the cards i play with but there is at least 2 guys at my lgs who play with most cards written on an island in pen its kinda sad one even keeps his pen proxies in a trade binder to keep them safe as if they were the real thing

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What's some spicy tech for Eldrazi-based Rakdos?

>>47699597
Gut Shot?

>>47699489
can't head down to your LGS to pick up a copy?

>>47699597
Shit like earthquake and rolling earthquake etc that damages each player

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To the anon asking about storage/travel. The KMC 1000 card box is pretty nice, solid and fits sleeved cards. They are about $15 on amazon. If you do order one make sure you select the vendor hyaK since they are in the US (assuming you are in NA) and it wont take 30 days to travel across the Pacific.

>>47699597
Bulwark
Diseased Vermin
Indulgent tormentor
Karplusan Minotaur
Magus of the Mirror
PALACE SIEGE
SIN PRODDER
Subversion

>>47699396

no local stores?

>>47699597
sorry, Also Arc Blade

>>47699818
Depends on the commander, i have about 4 lgs i frequent and none of them have ever opened commander product to have singles for sale and they only buylist standard or modern staples

>>47699597
Sneak attack, Feldon, Anger, instant speed reanimation.
The eldrazi shuffle effect is a triggered ability and not a replacement effect, and can therefore be responded to.

>>47699597
Soul Conduit counts as life loss if a player's life total goes down as a result of the ability

>>47699818
Possibly. The commander is M13 Odric

I don't really go to LGSes though so I don't know what's around me

>>47699749
Not that anon, but I would get that but thankfully, amiami informed me it cannot hold character guard sleeved cards which I had.

>>47698474
im sorry anon i cant post a list, i want my deck to be secret because i know a lot of edh players from my lgs go on here but what i can tell you is i run all the pirates and its all about flavor and not optimisation

go to edhrec for an idea

What's some double secret spicy tech for Godo?

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>Just got 100 bucks for my birthday
>Mind Seize is coming in the mail next week
What are some good budget cards for a Nekusar deck?

>>47700246
Blue sun's zenith.

I recommend to have a elixir of immortality.

>>47700246
>le i killed you by making you draw your entire deck

kys

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I built a teysa combo deck. I took it to my LFS edh day, and I won both games, one vs prosh, karador and the other had brogo. One was a turn 4 infinite. How come she isn't considered a t1 commander with the rest of those. I guess I can see the lack of blue from the esper commanders, but not all the t1 commanders are blue. She's definitely been stronger than my meren deck I took apart which was considered t2

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>>47700153
My deck is so secret i wont even share it anonymous over the interwebs

>>47700304
But I want to be a soulless bastard whose wincon is making people draw cards until they die.

>>47700246
Add some protection for nekusar. A dude in my playgroup runs le funny wheels.dec with no protection or backup plan. I steal his commander literally every game we play. He's gotten so salty that he just won't play with me anymore.

>>47700304
>le i killed you by making your life total drop to zero

Christians 1
Athiests 0

>>47697257
I think the best possible commanders would be:
Prossh
Thromok
He Who Hungers
Gitrog Monster
Atogatog

What's the flavor of Gitrog? I get him mechanically but the flavor of a fat ramping frog escapes me

>>47700520
Not every card has to have flavor, some cards are just cards that fit the setting they're from. Goddamn.

>>47700520
Amphibian tribal

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>>47700570
>H.P Lovecraft setting
>giant frog
>not fish-man hybrid cephlapod worshipers

>>47697180
That is clearly Prince the magic card

>>47700679
Look at the fucking cards nigga
Westvale Cult Leader has a fucking fish face

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>>47700756
>a frog is a fish
Cool biology story bro

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>>47699597
Basically free creatures right here

>>47698977
Look at these posts friendo

>>47698057
>>47698036

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>>47699597
Nobody knows.

Every Rakdos deck plays out the exact same way. They put together a game plan of enablers and fatties, and then when they sit down and draw their 7, they realize their deck doesn't work.

You play your turn 3 lobber crew, and hope it lives. You play rakdos on turn 4 and hope he lives. Then, finally, on turn 5, you get to make a play. Meanwhile, the other decks are playing efficiently costed cards on their turns because their decks aren't half composed of pingers and the other half fatties.

Godspeed anon. A friend of mine gave me a personal challenge to make a Rakdos deck that isn't garbage assuming a roughly 70% meta, and I've tried three separate builds so far. If the tech exists, you won't find it posted here.

>>47699597

>>47700876 is correct, Rakdos is inherently inconsistent. If you don't draw the correct combination of damage spells and fatties the deck just doesn't work

>>47700876
>>47701029
B-but Black is king of tutoring

>>47701144
instead of tutoring for pingers and fatties you could've been tutoring for much better things

>>47700876

That's because the deck relies on the commander too much to function. You should NEVER cast your commander naked, you need mana for Boots/Cloak/whatever. Every EDH deck needs 36-38 lands, Sol Ring and protection, and then you fill it out with your shit. Rakdos can't really get protection online without deterring from the goal of a pinger -> Rakdos -> Fatty. And if you stray away from that plan, your deck just doesn't do anything. There's no real redundancy (like Roon having a fuckton of blink enablers and not really needing to play Based Rhinoman)

It feels like it would be better to just run Rakdos as B/R goodstuff deck, relying more on Kiki-Jiki and MikeTrike shenanigans rather than EldraziNPingers.dek. If that's the case, Grenzo would work better.

Fuck, Rakdos is such a bad player trap. EDH is full of that stuff too.

>>47701156
for sure, but I don't see why Rakdos would be inconsistent. My boros voltron deck can pull off its schtick everytime as long I I don't get manascrewed

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>>47701167
>mfw I run only 31 lands and 3 rocks without having any mana problems b/c White is the best at fetching behind Green

>>47701144
Cool, demonic tutor for prodigal pyromancer can be your turn 2 play. There just comes a point where you have to tutor for some crap like onyx goblet and you see just how pitiful your strategy is.

Rakdos himself can be very powerful, but the deck just doesn't have enough cards that fit the Rakdos niche, so you have to develop some kind of consistent subtheme. The next problem you're going to have is picking a subtheme that is:
* Limited to black/red
* isn't vulnerable to single-card shutdowns like rest in peace or aura of silence.
* Has interaction with Rakdos

If you can't do these things, you might as well play a third color. The game plan overlap of black/red just has worse options than other colors. You want to play a black/red deck with eldrazi in it? Play Kresh or something.

>>47701205
Your boros voltron doesn't have to play garbage cards in order to play your commander. Your boros voltron doesn't depend on sticking low-value creatures in order to be able to afford the mana costs on the rest of the deck.

The real issue is that classic Rakdos doesn't have enough cards that fit his niche, so you have to play trash cards just to be allowed to cast spells. That means every time you draw, when something could have been a land, rock, crucial removal, or threat, you could draw a piece of shit in a sleeve.

>>47701393
I never said it was good. I said there shouldn't be a problem with consistency. It can/will be consistently crap

I play my 5 color theros god roulette deck and i never even use my commander its just there so i can play 5 color, i use sliver queen just to trigger people

>>47701549
>5 color God Deck
>Not running Karona, False God
>Not assembling the entire pantheon and swinging for 133 damage

Why do you hate flavor anon?

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What are some fun ways to run Dralnu?

>>47701663
All the junk cards, full graveyard use.

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>>47701637
Because her flavor is ass and thats not my favorite flavor

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>>47701663

>>47701663
Dralnu
Mill cards that target you
Self mill cards
Lands
Try to mill yourself out before the rest of the table can do 40 damage

>>47701663
Dralnu is just like Rakdos: looks fun, plays badly. Your commander is basically a phyrexian negator, which means you load your deck with boots-type cards or your game will be ruined. So lets say you get dralnu in play with a wispersilk or some shit. Your deck is loaded with cards that do nothing but stop your commander from losing you the game, but that doesn't matter the moment you cast walk the aeons, and then recast it.

The highs and lows of this card are so drastic that you should be rewarded by some interesting games when things do go to plan. In practice, playing with or against a Dralnu wearing greaves is a bit dull. He would be much more fun in the 99.

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I'm considering just going full circle and just buying rhys like I've always wanted, man I wish he was cheaper fuck.

I want to be the very best elf man.

>>47701785
Mono green elfball is still fine, the 2014 precon has most of what you need then add a few tweaks, the planeswalker commander that shits out llanowar elves is tits

>>47701785
I'll buy it for you, anon. Just tell me where to have it shipped.

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>>47701663
>donate

Anyone wanna lend a hand with this here Godo deck? It needs some speeding up

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/godos-powerviolence-concert/

It's really strong but very much a battlecruiser deck, which I don't really want. Godo should be hitting on T3

>>47701843
Alternatively, Immortal Coil

Looking to build Sun Quan? Is he worth building?

>>47702011

Sure why not

>>47701896
Coalition Relic and Heart of Ramos are another set of rocks, Ichor Wellspring could serve as repeatable draw. Just hope to god they don't have a Nevermore

>>47702070
if enchantments really give you a heartache you can always Liquimetal Coating and have your way with em

>>47701807
I don't think I can go mono colored again unless its red, I played Titania for the longest time and man after finally playing green with other colors again, I remember how less scared shitless I have to be since I actually have removal now.

>>47701807
No way bby I'll have to buy you dinner first.

>>47701896
Do you really need all those combat phases and MLD? Especially Island-killers.

So these 4 color general EDH decks coming out soon are going to suck ass, right? Unless everyone is just going to built it on a green skeleton and ramp their way into near rainbow + goodstuff.dec

Even still, seems like you're asking for a dicking with that mana base.

>>47701896
Possibility Storm is doing you no favors, since you can tutor out all the gear you need.

Hellkite Igniter is too expensive and Hoard-Smelter is probably better since he can smash your opponents' rocks and boost himself. Myriad Landscape is too slow. Goblin War Drums is cute but doesn't help at all late-game, and you have better evasion in there anyway. That nonbasic landwalk is cool. Get an Inquisitor's Flail to double down on damage, maybe lose the higher-cost combat phase stuff like Fury of the Horde.

Also some Rituals, Strata Scythe and Masterwork of Ingenuity would work wonders in here.

>>47702270
>Especially Island-killers.
don't you know about le ebin fuck blue meme? It's really epic :^).

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>>47702343
this next set is just wotc throwing a bone to all the monored players for sticking it out and being such good sports

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>>47701896
try this for fun

>>47702412
I am the only player who is heavy on the artifacts, weirdly enough. Probably why the Godo deck is one of the strongest decks in my group, it'd get torn to pieces against anything outside kitchen table

>>47702437

Artifacts are insanely strong, that's why I have two decks that rely on artifact mana and two that rely on artifact hate

>tfw Eldrazi tribal commander

Anybody have non deck building related tips?

Trying to git gud

>>47702681
git gud

>>47702666

Be patient, 5-color devoid emracool is on the way

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>Aethersnatch a debt to the deathless for half of everyone's life
>opponent counters my snatch
>pact his counter
>wild ricochet the debt to the deathless
>everyone dies
Felt so good

>>47702681
1. Card advantage
2. Threat assessment
3. Plan for infinite combos but don't underestimate combat damage

>>47702412
Have any of you actually won with this card? I play it in Kaalia and have gotten to like 18 before they answered it.

>>47702381
Oh I've heard of it. 2 seems high though, 3 if you count Wake.

That's a lot of fucking land destruction in that deck, which is fine, but more rocks are needed

>>47699978
Bro chances are someone would juts lend/trade you an odric, they're dollar rares

>>47702713
are you fucking play Mizzix?

Because I am. I picked up the precon on a whim a week ago and regretted it at first, then got around to actually building it and it's the most fun I've had in commander in years.

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>>47702695
>Pay 8W/C U/C B/C R/C G/C to cast
Now I'm sad it'll never happen

>>47702742
no but the feeling of taking someone else's sol ring is a win for me

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>lunch break at work
>goto the lgs to pick up some eternal masters for shits $17 a pack wew lad
>dude in front of me buys 48 packs
>shelf is empty
>guy working gets a call, supply is too short price is now $20 a pack for the remaining 3 boxes
>shopkeepersfw
FUCK
Literally just happened

>>47702742

In my kaalia deck too, and yes I did win, I stole 22 artifacts from the daretti player like 5 were creatures, and I had like 5 noncreature artifacts of my own

What happened was after I stole, naturally the table came up with the k grip to kill the swift boots, then the doom blade to kill the tyrant, but 3 turns later (5 person game), dude goes for a living death, forgetting about the tyrant, I still had all my mana rocks and all the daretti player's voltaic key unwinding clock nonsense

Ended up winning with exactly 20 artifacts

Fave kaalia game ever, no longer have that deck built out

>>47697120
>Competitive game a few days ago with some mates
>Me as Karametra, mates playing Nekusar Chaos, Cheeky "No Fun" Kiki, and 5c Gitrog / Land Destruction Matters
>About 7 or 8 turns in
>Knowledge Pool was put into play
>Same guy plays Possibility Storm, not playing the original pooled card (can't remember what it was), then plays unsummon to unpool P-Storm
>Next guy over plays Hidetsugu from hand, pools it and plays the first pooled card, Zo-zu - storming into Old Kozilek
>Next guy cycles Decree of Annihilation, we all sigh
>My turn, have IsoScepter pooled, draw Temple Garden + Sol Ring from Nekusar
>Play TG, play Sol Ring, unpool Iso - search for Orim's Chant
>Proceed to have a 4 hour game that could've been over in 10 minutes

best format.

>>47702864
Melek. I just wanted to play a bunch of big flashy spells.

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How do I into Thada Adel? She looks fun

>>47702883
$20 a fucking pack

What the actual fuck

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>T1 Defense Grid
>Talrand player drawing into none of his alt-cost countermagic (FoW and all that shit)
>can't counter anything until like T5
>by then my Spellbreaker Behemoth is out

>>47702934
Basically the same strategy with Mizzix really. Try him out, add some X spells.

>>47702951
I mean, any way you want. You could just steal rocks to ramp into fatties at the very least.

>>47702981
Mizix would need a much lower curve compared to what I run with Melek. It's rock ramp into explosive stuff like bribery and knowledge exploitation. I think of Mizzix more as storm-centric.

>>47702978

Force of will does not get around defense grid

You had him even more by the balls than you realized

>>47702877
Yeah pretty much my main reason for running it. One of my buddies plays with Scroll Rack and that's always a great target too.

>>47702919
Oh that's great anon. The time i almost won I would have with my next swing but when I declared attacks someone else pointed it out and another player spot removed him.

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So, did you get EM boosters or boxes?

>>47703090
Really? How so, would it have been 3 mana and the exile cost?

>>47703139
Nah, I decided I could spend that money on just getting the singles for my legacy deck, none of which were in EMA. Even have someone selling for MSRP here, but I still think it's too much for wh\at they have.

>>47703139
Just grabbing singles
>Force of Will
>Natural Order
>Sneak Attack
>Vampiric Tutor
>Entomb
They'll never be cheaper than they are now

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Hey /tg/ I'm thinking of building pic related is the precon worth getting or should I just buy singles.

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Just picked this bad boy up. What deck do I put him in?

>>47701637
Fuck I want god tribal now

>>47702951
Run invisibility, artful dodge, aqueous form, robe of mirrors, neurok stealthsuit, whispersilk cloak, fabricate. Just make sure she's unblockable, grab their biggest rocks. Pack the deck with sea monsters, eldrazi, counters, and bounce spells

>>47703004
Mizzix must have: Reiterate + Seismic Spike

People will turn into Lot's Wife from the saltiness.

>>47703349
Put it in with Mycosynth Lattice.

>>47703139
Drafting it a couple times, but will mainly try to trade for the singles I need rather than buy. It's not too many.

>>47703258
mono blue artifacts

>>47703150

Yes that's exactly right, the 3 mana is what's called an "additional cost"

When you cast a spell you choose either to pay the normal cost or any "alternative" costs available to you (such as force of will)

THEN, any additional costs are added, then any cost reductions are subtracted, then you pay the final total

>>47703139
Got boosters, pretty meh but i got vamp tutor, maze of ith, foil counterspell, 2 foil fact or fiction, foil arcanis (lol) like 2 chainlightning and cabal therapy, oh and 2 turd apes, 0 pyro/hydroblast

Remember, on TCG a booster box is $200 cheaper than 36 individual EMA packs.

>>47703715
it's only 160 bucks?
shieeet

>>47703715
EMA boxes have 24 packs, not 36.

>>47703218
>>47703139
Note: they will probably never be cheaper than a month from now, when the market has flooded with them and the preorder hype has died down some. Prices always slump after preorders are done, though they will absolutely be slinking back on up within 2016.

>>47703744
Oh, well then fuck that, my bad

>>47701896
>Godo should be hitting on T3
Anon that's very unrealistic

>>47702603
>Artifacts are insanely strong
I know. Early last year I bought the Daretti C14 precon and fell in love

Ended up beating the shit out of my group too, we were all new to EDH at that point and I think it put a bad taste in their mouths because they don't really play artifact shenanigans nearly as much as I do

>>47697120
nth for flavortown me some good art
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ramses-overdark-art-tribal/

What's the minimum number of players you would do a draft with? I have a small group of friends who we do EDH nights with, but some of them live upstate and we can only all get together once every few months. I wanted to get some amount of EMA to open for fun and to add some value to my binder but I'm worried the draft won't be as fun if we don't have enough people.

>>47703936
6 or 8 i would do. any less and its just sad. trust me

>>47703256
>>47703256
Depends on the price you get the pre-con for.

I got mine for $27, and it included a $20 card, plus like 15-20 pieces I wound up using, not including basic lands. Good purchase, but that was some time back.

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Finished up my Sigarda list, feedback appreciated: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/sigarda-the-introvert/

>>47703256
I would say the precon because Wurmcoil Engine alone is like $17 and you can get the precon for around $35 ish

>>47703256
>buying daretti
Honestly you should just kill yourself, that aside there is alot of decent value cards in the deck that cost more outside of the deck then buying the precon to get them. So to answer your question its worth buying the precon but you are a shit for playing daretti

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>>47704478
>be this guy
>cant deal with card draw on t3 (and dumping a fattie in the gy
>cant deal with t4 saccing of shit junk artifact to put said fatty into play
>cant deal with pyroblasting whatever jew counter he tries to use
>maximum sodium

>>47701315
I've been trying to build around this idea of getting my opponent to stack his hand then I discard it all and do massive damage to him in one turn. I decided to try and build this deck into a rakdos commander deck with some fatties to build a wall while I do direct damage. It was wildly inconsistent as a 60 card deck and I imagine it will be terrible as a commander deck. But I did manage to hit someone for 14 damage on turn 4, so it does have potential.

>>47704536
>implying red is the problem
Nothing wrong with play red, just that most daretti players play the most cheap ass combos and seem to blow their load way too early and then can't understand why they get hated on by the group.

>>47704808

Dude this describes the daretti player in my playgroup perfectly

He also plays brago stax and gets mad when we spend our removal on fuckong torpor orbs and winter orbs

>>47704808
>lol ur commanders fed
>lol ur lands r gone
>lol turn 3 wurmcoil
>lol artifact wipe for five mana
>lol infinite combat steps
Is red too powerful for EDH?

>>47705057

Sorry the torpor orb is in a diff deck not Brago


You get the picture tho, all his decks run shit that hates the other decks in the game and expects us not to remove the shit that shuts us down on account of it shutting down our opponents besides him

>>47705059
You seem to misunderstand, only daretti players play like idiots using cheap combos. Most other red players don't play everything hate.

>>47705057
>gets mad when we play removal on torpor orb and winter orb

I dropped torpor orb t2 with my tasigur deck. I accepted the hate that came with it, but I have to ask is the torpor orb/winter orb combo in brago or daretti?

>>47705164
>only daretti players play like idiots using cheap combos.

Nigga the whole motherfucking format is durdle till you combo

>"huuuuuur duuuuuur you comboed before turn 27 U R BADDY"

kys

>>47705251
Ok now you're just being stupid. Clearly you are a butt blasted daretti player because I am calling them out on the shit they pull
>b-but its fair!
But you get asshurt and will scream unfair when someone annuls your darksteel forge.

>kys
I don't understand this autism speak. The sooner you accept you're a cheap combo fuck the better you will be.

>>47705293
Stop being so whiney. Artifact creatures are the second easiest thing to remove in EDH, second only to a commander you can swing at.

>>47705308
I'm not whining though just pointing out the obvious and you keep replying. If seriously can't handle someone poking fun at your deck you should stop playing altogether. Chill out or better yet have your next post be "I was only pretending to be retarded."

>>47705293
You cant stand the fact wizards bought out preconstructed decks and even moreso that some have *gasp* a planeswalker as a commander, back on your high horse grampa some people actually like new people joining the game so we dont have to hear people like you complain about how much better the tempest block was for type 2 games while you slaver over your revised duals

>>47705372
>he doesn't have enough removal in his deck
>accuses other players of being shortsighted combo kiddies
laughinggirls.jpg

>>47705372
Totally different person and you didnt seem to realise he was actually agreeing with you, having trouble interperating social interactions mr assburger?

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>>47705470
Maybe I just don't give a shit faggot

>>47705453
Considering I have bought all the precon 2014 decks you're a fucking retard

>>47705465
Tell me more about your group that wins on turn 3 I am so impressed that you have $400+ commander decks

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>>47705508
>Gave enough of a shit to reply 5 times
Wew lad ive been tricked

>>47705508
>Precons are shit
>people whonplay precons are shitters
>i own all the precons
>therideneverends.mp3

Eagerly awaiting your reply
Love Anon XxxOoo

>>47705533
>posting bobli reaction image
Please fuck off now.

>>47705555
>I like to make my own interpretations on posts I didn't make so that way I don't seem retarded

Even with your quads you're a fucking faggot

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>>47705556
>>47705576
U mad bro?
How mad will you be when the 2016 precons are 4 color

>>47705508
>Tell me more about your group that wins on turn 3 I am so impressed that you have $400+ commander decks
Hahaha holy shit, you really can't answer a turn three wurmcoil? I was just memeing before, but you literally and unironically need to get good.

>>47705689
I actually can't count the number of games I've wonplaying my Slobad deck of of T1/2 mana rocks into t3/4 Wurmcoil/Lodestone Golem/Meatball and next turn Jokulhaups saccing a rock to make the fatty indestructible.

>>47705716
How does kurkesh fare on his own as a commander? Ive used him in artifact heavy decks before and he seems abit hit and miss

>>47703347
Go for it. Pretty much only gods that cost something are Keranos and Thassa.

>>47699396
You imported a list from tapped out to tcg and didnt check the entire list before you ordered it?

I have used the import feature and tcg's mechanism to pick sellers at the lowest price and correct grade are complete shit. In my case it had over 25 different packages at over $200 which I eventually got down to 12 and around $170.

You must not value money or are just an idiot to not have noticed.

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I got to live the dream tonight boys
>go to card shop 1hr away because I saw them streaming on twitch and wanted to check it out
>turns out it's commander night
>ask what the house rules if any are
>he says they do 4 man pods, everyone buys a booster as entry fee
>when you kill a player you get their pack
>you must control the source that kills them, no pumping dudes or giving them infect to steal packs
>he said before I ask, if I redirect a burn spell at it's controller's face i get their pack. If I redirect the burn spell to someone other than the controller, maybe because they have hexproof, and the person I redirected to dies, the burn spell's controller gets the pack
>oddly specific thing to explain but whatever, I have a deck that's perfect at killing one person out of nowhere so I play that
>Atarka, the one-shot wonder vs flip liliana, ob noxious of the black oath, and sliver overlord
>~turn 9, I have xenagod in play, a storage land with 8 counters, ~10 lands because of ramp spells
>cast atarka using a storage land. no responses. move to combat, xenagod triggers. no responses
>send atarka at the sliver player thinking if either monoblack player has removal, I can kill slivers first and at least get 1 pack
>sliver player packs it up
>2nd main, carpe diem boys
>throw down seize the day
>send atarka at liliana
>he taps out and casts scoop, 2 packs
>flashback seize the day and send it at ob nix who has all his mana open
>he reveals that his only removal was sorcery speed, tells us GG
1HKO MACHINE

my regular group is WAY too fucking spike to ever let that shit happen. felt like fucking sex.

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>>47705994
He slow, and my meta has learned that my durdling generally ends with everyone dying.
But he was the first deck I made myself and so he'll always have a place in my heart.

But honestly there is nothing quite like having Bosh chuck himself at somebody twice for the kill.

>>47706481
>play this Bosh edit
>start chucking rocks at everybody
>run out of rocks to throw
>I activate Bosh, saccing Bosh
>....Superman

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Gota love bosh antics

>playing with the kids
>my son playing daretti
>2 artifacts on the field
>bosh and darksteel citadel
>he's sad that lattice is nowhere to be seen
>my kid plays pic related
>15/7 bosh runs over my daughters elfball
>takes her out
>thats my boy
>Never been more proud of my son
>we all have ice cream
Feels

>>47706739
How did he make Bosh a 15/7 with that and only 2 other rocks out on the field

>>47701663
I just stuck him into my Nekusar deck.

I want to make a chaos goblin deck, what should my strategy be? Apart from possibility storm for the lulz

>>47707097
Warp world, Confusion in the Ranks, and Scrambleverse are all fun.

>shitters unironically complaining about Daretti of all things
As if /tg/ wasn't bad enough at Magic

>>47706376
Nice. Cool rule set too, I'd play with that.

>>47706556
Shit,

>>47706481
How come most of the mana symbols in the text boxes for Mirrodin aren't colored? I have a Savage Beating that has the same issue as that Bosh

>>47707409
Wizards wanted to save money on ink, but retards couldn't figure out that U and greyscale U were the same thing.

>>47707455
>couldn't figure out that U and greyscale U were the same thing
Wait really? People couldn't tell what mana symbols were in text boxes? wew lad

>>47707455
Or they wanted the flavor of the silver colored plane to shine through on the cards.

>>47707482
They were going to keep doing it outside of mirrodin, but that alleged legibility issue convinced them to switch back.

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>>47704536
>be me
>playing mishra
>have him out
>got 4 mana
>use Praetor's Grasp
>search up an opponents Sol Ring
>Play the sol Ring
>Mishras Ability triggers
>put my own sol ring into play
>mfw i got 2 sol rings on turn 5

>>47706376
>berserk
>my regular group is WAY too fucking spike to ever let that shit happen. felt like fucking sex.

I don't even want to imagine how spiky your group is. I wish I had that much disposable income.

>>47700679
>what is Tsathoggua?

>>47701167
Surely using Rakdos with fatties already worth running and hard casting is the answer?

Like, it won't be three huge colorless fatties, but even a 3 mana discount is worth it.

Should I build Melek or Mizzix? Either one would end up in the 99 of the other

>new group
>combo off really early with a nut draw
>bitching abound
>take it out for next time
>lambasted for taking it out
>put it back in
>good spirited groaning when it happens again

Eh, I guess sometimes they have to get the salt out of their system.

How do I deal with an Uril player in our playgroup?
I'm in Abzan colors.Should i just jam as many boardwipes and sac outlets as I can manage?
Anafenza's the commander, so Merciless Executioner/Chainer's Edict wouldn't be that bad in general.

It's especially hard in 1v1 games, but maybe my commander is just bad.

>>47703139
I have a box waiting for me. I'll also probably draft a few times in store.

It wasn't a good purchase. Even if I win the lottery and pull good cards, I don't play Legacy and I won't be able to move them.

I essentially am playing 300 dollars for about 60 bucks store credit and a handful of cute commander cards. But if I get to draft it, I'll be happy.

>>47705716
Nice. Respect.

>>47707977
Jam a Glaring Spotlight in that shit

>>47707977
You should've been running Merciless anyway. But yeah, Chainers is great. But honestly, you are in the best colors to deal with this. Run Fracturing Gust.

>>47707931
Mizzix. As just one of the 99 she's not that great.

>>47707977
>Playing W/B
>Not playing Merciless Eviction
>Not playing Hallowed Burial
>Not playing Final Judgment
>Not playing Rout
>Not playing Austere Command

>>47708163
Yeah I thought so

I don't want to do Turns.dec though, what would make for some interesting stuff with her?

>>47708209
Find red and blue spells that are fun.

Cast them cheaply and in great quantities.

>>47707097
Chaosphere

>tfw your entire playgroup are a bunch of control heavy faggots that do nothing but turtle, spam removal and wait to combo off while occasionally countering part of each other's combos

I hate this.

Are there any cards that shuts out this kind of play entirely? I'd rather deal with goodstuff.dec than fedoracombolord.dec

>>47708376
Defense Grid oughta shut them up.

Also, Grand Abolisher.

>>47708376
There's a few things you could do, depending on what kind of combos they're using.
City of Solitude, Price of Glory, War's Toll, Stranglehold, Back to Basics, Defense Grid, Teferi (creature), Aura Shards, Rule of Law, Arcane Laboratory, Vexing Shusher, Grand Abolisher, Red Elemental Blast, Pyroblast
I mean, most of this is control in itself, but that's the main way to stop control in EDH.

>>47708403
So the only way to stop them from being faggots is to become the U/W Lawfag myself. Damn it.

>>47708449
I mean, there's also the meta-solution of sitting down with them like adults and saying that you find the overly durdly counter-heavy metagame frustrating and unfun, and ask if everyone would be interested in building a more aggressive deck to just try it out.

But considering you're asking for answers to "control heavy faggots" and "fedoracombolord" on 4chan instead of attempting that solution, I doubt it would work anyway.

>>47708449
You don't have to be W/U lawfag.
Most of what I listed >>47708445 is Red and Green, which can really fuck up U's day.

>>47708445
>>47708449

There is another way, brothers.

Vexing Shusher/any mittful of "can't be countered effects", right into motherfucking Thieves' Auction.

My playgroup stopped playing their boring as fuck decks after a few games of Eye of the Storm/Thieves Auction/Warp World etc.

Basically any card that just says "FUCK YOU, FUCK EVERYONE, WE'RE DONE HERE" by completely destroying the game state without any regard for your own victory.

>>47708449
Also, as a note, City of Solitude even stops mana abilities, even lands, from being used. It's the literal "you can't do anything on my turn" card.

>>47708488
I don't like going full chaos with stuff like Eye of the Storm because it's disruptive in the worst way. When it takes a solid 2 minutes to resolve any spell anyone casts, I'm gonna scoop because I have better shit to do.

>>47708521
That's the point. It's no different than sitting through 45 minutes of draw-go-counterspell attrition until someone at the table manages to get their foot in the door and ejaculate off their instant win combo.

I just find it to be the most boring, especially for a multiplayer format.

>>47708546
Neither's very fun. I don't like spending 45 minutes playing draw-go until someone combos out, but I also don't like having my choices be "Pass turn" or "spend 5 minutes figuring out how all this resolves every time I cast anything".

>>47708564
I feel like the original point of EDH making it singleton format was to basically spit in combo's face, but with the amount of "same card, different name" reprints over the years, combos haven't lost any functionality at all. It's crazy to think how many options there are for reliable, consistent EDH combos even when you're only allowed to run 1-ofs.

I almost want to make a new format that is more what I'm looking for. It's frustrating trying to have that balance of interaction without it being Creatures : The Tappening, or "One turn instant win combo".

>>47708592
I mean, technically the original point of EDH was to give Judges a chance to keep themselves sharp by forcing weird interactions that normally never happen.

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Kind of a stupid question here.

If I have this guy on the field and the opponent has a shitload of 1/1 tokens in play, and I Wrath of God, will he become indestructible as they leave, before he dies and tank it? I don't really know in what order creatures being taken off the field resolves in.

>>47708613
Effects like Wrath blow up everything at once.
They'll all die simultaneously and your guy won't have a chance for his ability to take effect.

>>47708613
The "Destroy" effect happens all at once, and at the time it's happening the Titan is not indestructible. There is no order- it's all simultaneous.

>>47708670
>>47708679

Daww. He's kinda shit then. Thanks lads.

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My (pretty casual) playgroup.
Outside of orange, blue, and light blue, we're all fairly new players who got into Magic less than two years ago. As a result there's a lot of stuff that wouldn't fly in more experienced or cut-throat groups, and I'm thankful for that. Most decks are also pretty low-budget.

I wish I could build decks as janky as orange or as on-theme as blue. Been thinking about building Mishra, U/B Sygg, Zirilan or Gwafa Hazid next.

>>47708376
Dragonlord Dromoka
Grand Abolisher

>>47708827
>Ob Nixilis tribal

Someone in your group is a bad ass.

>>47708827
>Skittles infect
>Purples burn
>GAAIV control
>Jhoira
>Prossh
>Arcum
>Niv
>Nekusar
>Storm Mizzix
Wow, fuck your meta.

Anything tasty I should drop in my new odric deck so that I might live deliciously?

>>47697180
>Why is a 13 year old girl dressed as a gay pirate?
That's clearly Peter Pan, having killed and replaced Captain Hook.

>>47701167
>Fuck, Rakdos is such a bad player trap.
>tfw want to be edgy and play a badass BR Legendary but consistency won't let me

>>47703139
Boexs are way easier to profit off of. $100 profit EZ each box

>>47708939
i liked a balls to the walls malfegor

>>47708983
Weren't people whining about how this is the worst EV:Price set in years, and how on average a 240 box of EMA has an EV of barely 200 dollars?

>>47708985
Don't you need U to make that more viable? or is lmaoNecropotence good enough?

>>47708220
I just don't want to descend into degeneracy

>>47708860
It's all pretty low-budget, so even the asshole decks rarely get out of control. They're spread fairly even amongst us, so everyone can pull out their asshole deck if someone wants to play the bad guy.

>>47709064
Find red and blue spells that are fun.

Cast them cheaply and in great quantities.

>>47709008
erebos, greed, other ways of making cards get to hand work. helps if you take their hand out too. i made a brew a long time ago but abandoned it like a ginger at a church steeple. think i might pick it up though again...

>>47709076
OK

>>47697990
He's saying why don't you run Ezuri in your Mimeoplasm? It will also allow you to run Meren, and take advantage of both,and faster since you have tworked cards making the counters.

>>47709197
Two cards, wow my phone hates me.

>not running the B/R gravetron meme

My friend uses it; it's fairly funny the first time, but people know better after.

Buried Alive -> Pitch Dragon Tyrant, Darksteel Sentinel and Xathrid Slyblade.
Cast Soulflayer and delve those three away.

Now you have a 4/4 Flying, Hexproof, Indestructible, Trample, Doublestrike with Vigilance. Yes, there are still ways to deal with it (making him sac a creature, non-targeted bounce, etc), but it can be very annoying early game and demands answers.

Janky as fuck though obviously.

>>47709263
That is pretty spicy.

>>47709263
That's pretty rad, man

>>47700246
Enchanted creature has infect, use this as a keyword. Enjoy your nekuzar combo deck

>>47709263
Why is it that you list Vigilance seperately when Trample is just as silly when used as an adjective?

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Wanna build a Trump deck. It's gonna be Jeskai tribal walls.

Who's at the helm? What are some game winning combos I can do with those colors?

>>47709573
Vent sentinel is a must

>>47709573
Ruhan, because he lashes out randomly without any plan.

>>47709573
At the helm should be Numot blowing up lands or Ruhan for his terrible hair, YUUUUUGE body, and randomly lashing out.

As for stuff to go in, you def need Vent Sentinel, Wall of Frost, Wall of Denial

>>47709406
Because Vigilance starts with a V and is furthest down the alphabet so it should be at the end.

(I don't care about starting alphabetically but the end matters, do you even autism?)

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>>47709573
Definitely spend the $5 for this, just so you can say "playing Kozilek, the Make America Great Again Distortion".

>>47709675
>Make America The Great Distortion

FTFY

I'm working on a weird Mishra list, can anybody think of any artifacts that make players pay upkeep costs on creatures or make them pay to attack you ala Propaganda?

What are some fun things to put into reanimator / cheaty-face ?

>>47708827
>samurai angels
I like that guy's style.

>>47709946
It's not an artifact, but Tabernacle

>>47709946
None in your colors.

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>>47709946
The only remotely weird "pay or get fucked" artifact is Umbilicus.

Everything else is an enchant or off color.

>>47709984
Soulflayer and Fated Return are two very fun, reasonably 'new' cards that haven't really found their way into Reanimator yet.

Soulflayer for the obvious graveyard interaction, and Fated Return for infinite amusement if your target happens to be Hexproof. Sphinx of the Final Word is generally my favorite target in a graveyard to hit with Fated Return.

>>47710105
I assume Soulflayer isn't in reanimator decks because it doesn't have anything good on itself, and it gets rid of your other reanimator targets. So if you delve a lot of things to make it good and it gets killed, well you're shit out of luck now that all your other good reanimator targets are in exile instead of the GY where you want them.

>>47710163
Yeah. If you want to use something to the tune of "use my dead guys to make this better with keywords" in a reanimator deck, Cairn Wanderer is a better option.

>>47708679
I have a feeling you might be mistaken on this. Checking the comprehensive rules, I think this should work exactly the same as "wrath of god vs knight examplar"

Wrath of god destroys the creatures simultaneously. This means that when the titan is in play, the other tokens are considered to also be in play when wrath destroys everything. It will take me a minute to find the rule.

>>47710204
Wrath doesn't kill knights with Exemplar out for the exact same reason it DOES kill the Titan: It's one simultaneous "destroy everything" effect. With Exemplar, at the time of that destruction effect the knights are indestructible, even though they stop being so as soon as Exemplar actually dies- it doesn't matter. At the time an effect said "I'm destroying you", they were indestructible.

The opposite is true for the Titan. At the time a destroy effect is happening, there's still other creatures on the board. It doesn't gain indestructible until the destruction effect has already killed everything.

>>47710163
>>47710183
Everyone at my table tends to have a few good graveyard interact cards in their decks too, so I don't mind delving out some of my targets to prevent them from swiping them from me. I usually have stuff up so my creatures have flash, and I flash Soulflayer in response to people trying to steal my shit or empty my graveyard.

>>47710272
If you're playing a reanimator deck and your best defense against other reanimators is "exiling your own shit", you need new cards. Feldon's Cane, dude.

>>47710283
I have Feldon's Cane. But you're not going to always have it out in every scenario. You can keep running genericrenanimator.dec if you want; I was just giving fun and interesting suggestions. It's not even that terrible. If you can't spare 3 cards in a reanimator deck to make a retarded Voltron demon, then you don't know what fun is.

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>>47710227
DEEEEEEEEEEERP
>holds up spork
>shoots self
>revives using epic random magic
Umm, I trolled you so hard.

My Rakdos list is coming soon guys.

>>47700315
Man, I remember back in the day I had a teysa multiplayer deck built around punishing any attack on me and then rfg'ing enough attackers to make it not worth their while. Was a lot of fun.

>>47700315

As soon as you pop darkest hour, she becomes quite easy to deal with, also like any other combo strategy that doesn't involve cycling the card to combo - is susceptible to counter spells.

My locals t0 (Sen-Tier)/1's (by win rate) are Sen Triplets, Oloro, Kreshh, Norin, Nahiri (Sleeper-Threat), Brago, Ojutai and Keranos - all of which run heavy amounts of permanent hate or some form of chaos that actually benefits them and can fuck over combo players quite quickly and run necessary counters.

The t2's are mainly combo/control decks, with t3's being homebrew/flavour and t4 being pre-cons.

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>>47706556
;_;7

>>47707695
>cast mirrorworks
>next turn cast sol ring
>tap sol ring get token sol ring
it's not as cool as your story, i just wanted to be included

>>47708613
>>47708693
He's not really "shit" though, but the indestructible clause isn't the reason to use him, the recursion is more important. He's kind of weird though, and you have to be cautious of everything he triggers from, like reanimate and cremate.
E.T. is a unique card as he triggers from leaves from grave rather than enters grave. There totally is better options, but that fella is useful.