BFG General

>>46901374
first for living in hope that someday people will link to the previous thread.

>>46919422
>>46919445
Alright, thanks Anon.

>>46919516
hold out for space marines, their ships are going to be even more brawly than Imperial Navy but with shorter overall range.

>>46919593
Good thing everything pierces their armour. Hope they don't pay too many points for it.

For those who play/ed the tabletop game, does every 40k race get represented?

As far as races that haven't yet been introduced I know there's Space Marine and Necron fleets, but I'm not sure about Tau and Tyranids. Plus Dark Eldar are sort of included anyway considering that the Eldar in game are 'Eldar Corsairs' rather than Craftworld Eldar.

>>46919617
I'm more worried about the lack of choice for the space marines. They have 2 ship classes and that's basically it. Unless we get crazy customisation options, similar to the orks they could be fairly easy to counter.

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>upgrade navigational shields on my chaos light cruisers
>hyped for some asteroid shenanigans
>next game is on a barren map with only one tiny asteroid field and one tiny gas cloud

>>46919657
There are tabletop fleets, or at least partial fleets for basically all the standard races.

>play chaos they said
>they have the best long range weaponry they said

Holly fuck, lances are fucking USELESS. Orks and IN just don't give a single shit about what I can throw at them and then they rape my ass in close range because my ships seem to be made of wet cardboard.

How do I git gud with chaos ?

>>46919661
>play against chaos
>he takes the direct route to me
>straight through the asteroid field
>without navigational shields

The battle was basically over before it even started, I don't know that he was thinking. Didn't warp out either but instead had his whole fleet wrecked.

>>46919679
You don't let them get close.
Protip: lances travel through stasis bombs without any hindrance.

>>46919679
by not letting IN and Orks get close enough to slice through your paper armor

Is it worth it to max Mechanicus/Navigator/Troops vs Slaves and Gunners?

So I beat the campaign and Failbadon only took three Blackstone Fortresses. Did I do something right?

>>46919657

Not Sisters of Battle.

>>46919686
Besides >>46919696 don't rely exclusively on lances. Get a fucking Canage (or Slaughter) and use those macrobatteries to strip shields. You want your lance-boats spending their time busting hull armor with their armor-ignoring attacks, not waste their low-ish DPS agianst shields.

>>46919724

He manages to keep two in the official storyline.

>>46919750
I know, one of the three he captured was destroyed in my game. It's that he didn't even touch the other 3 in the campaign. I know the official story says that they were destroyed. But that didn't happen

>>46919732
But macrocannons require to get up close to be effective. Thus negating the range advantage and exposing my ships. Heard chaos carriers are not bad but they suffer the same problem imo.
I can't find a good balance in my fleet comp to have an optimal fire power.

>>46919801

Carnage's Macro-cannons have an excellent range. 9k.

>>46919801
No, not really. Carnage with a targetting matrix can effectively batter down shields from 9-12k out.

Despoiler or Desolator?

>>46919890
Despoiler.

>>46919658
It's like a worse version of Eldar. Maybe they'll be able to borrow IN ships to fill in the gaps.

>>46919729
You aren't even allowed a proper army what makes you think you get to have a navy?

So, are all escorts meant to be 2km in size? Are there smaller ships for planetary defence?

>playing as orks
>level 3
>matched against level 8 voidstalker
>taunt and kill it with light cruisers

>>46919978
You mean on the planet itself?

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Imperial_Aircraft

>>46919978
Escorts typically range from 900m (destroyers) to 1.5km (heavy frigates). There are smaller system ships (although system defence ships tend to be comparable in size to at least small escorts because they need to carry weapons big enough to threathen proper starships), but warp drives are so huge that you can't really have one on anything smaller than 800m or so (the Viper-class scout sloop, which is the smallest warp-capable ship in the Imperial Navy). Although the Inquisition and Officio Assainorum are rumoured to have much smaller warp-capable ships built around extremely rare and difficult to built archeotech warp drives.

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>>46920010
Dat's da way!

Why does everything bigger than an escort have a teleportarium anyway? I thought those things are rare

>>46920049
because the game modes require them to all have them.

>>46920049
They all had them in the TT.

I wonder, is teleporting technology within the reach of the Tau? If not, what will replace lighting strike and teleporting bombs?

>>46920092
Big ass guns.

Funny note to make : they technically can't warp out either in the fluff.

>>46920092
At least in the TT the can't do hit and run but that might be because Tau are awful at boarding style stuff in general.

>>46920092
>Tau
>successfully boarding anything ever
Not counting Kais, of course.

>>46920092

Crisis Voidsuits. And... Riptide Voidsuits.

>>46920142
Wonder what happens to Tau ships that "get lost in the warp".

>>46920092

XV46 Vanguard Void Suit. Basically a Tau Terminator Voidsuit but with a jetpack. Burst cannons, flamers, fusion guns, and build-in electroshocks, grav-repulsors and photon grenades. There is also the Coldstar which, apparently, can't be detected by the Augur Array.

>>46920284
Lewd things

>>46920284

Nothing. They will just miscalculate the exit point or demons will have difficulty to glimpse them.

>>46920160
>What are Tau boarding mechs?

>>46920160

That's why you employ Kroot Spheres, Gue'la!

>>46919657

Corsairs aren't the same as Dark Eldar. They're their own distinct faction. In a nutshell they're somewhere between CWE and Deldar. The corsairs in BFG seem to lean way closer to CWE with them getting craftworld bonuses.

>>46920340
are those a thing? wouldn't a ships tight corridors be an issue?

>>46920285

See this one.

>>46920457

They were made for Deathwatch. Although I don't think they ever got a model. There's also Coldstar.

>>46920457
This is a ship multiple kilometers long. There's going to be plenty of passageways large enough for a battlesuit.

>>46920457
Sometimes dreads get used too so some ships must be large enough

Tips vs high level Eldar?

I can wreck them until they start bringing that BB. I've tried chain taunting the thing.

It seems like well played Eldar are insanely boring to fight.

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>>46919453
>Impetuous Ascension
A more aptly named ship I have never seen.

>>46920608
if you're ork, paint your fleet red and use traktor kannonz to komedik effekt

>>46920620
Mai new waifu, 10/10 would get blammed by

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>>46920608
Grab a Dauntless with the stationary sensor and apply it directly to the elf. Then use a taunt to stasis bomb it. After you land the stasis bomb, initiate Operation Elf Slave Wat Do. If you can't make it to boarding range before the bomb breaks, chuck another or use torpedoes.

>>46920457
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Battlesuit#XV46_Vanguard_Void_Suit

>>46920608
>It seems like well played Eldar are insanely boring to fight.

This. I was against an Eldar player earlier and all he did was dance around firing off torpedoes as he went. After 5 minutes I just warped all my ships out. As long as they stay beyond 9k range there's nothing you can do against them.

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>get a styx out of position
>he's absolutely caught up between me and my mate
>stasis field in front of him, already used jump to get out of torpedos
>does a full stop
>a gothic rams it from one side as a tyrant does the same on the other side at the exact same spot
>mfw traitors getting absolutely eviscerated

it was glorious, should have taken a screenshot

>>46920686
Yeah at least VS orks, chaos or IN I at least feel like I've had good fight when I loose.

>for Eldar to have a good time, no one else can.

>>46920686
As a veteran elfdar and having won 40+ games straight I switched over to the Orks.

I've won 11 games in a row so far, half of them against eldar.

If you don't take taunt, you're a fool. I bring light cruisers and just spam taunt. Ever 120 seconds another poor eldar cruiser is gone. I end up getting away with light losses, the eldar get super fucked with 4-5 taunts in a row.

>>46920758
Oh wise and venerable elf scum. Is it possible to beat Eldar without taunt? I'm trying not to use the skill but it seems like its necessary evil.

>>46920758
Using taunt requires them to get within 9k range. Sure, it's going to happen eventually, but I'm not willing to spend 20 minutes bored out of my mind when I could fit 3 fun battles in that time.

>>46920801
I'm happy I am still in the low level range where everyone plays Ork or IN.

>>46920778
Taunt is almost necessary. Any good Eldar Ork matchup will have the Eldar use their speed boost after the alpha strike. Using taunt either before or after the boost generally ends a cruiser. If you're playing carrier eldar then taunt is a requirement. Bombs are fairly effective but I would generally just scoot my fleet away and kite the imps/orks/chaos until my damaged fleet was back in service.

Occassionally a random nova may get a light cruiser. But if you're firing from long range you fucked up.

Are Battleships useless?

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>>46920866
I like my Retribution

>>46920072
You can skip the cutscenes. Just go into this folder:
>C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\Battlefleet Gothic Armada\BattleFleetGothic\Content\Movies\Splashscreens
And rename all the movies to something else. Then they won't play on start up.

>>46920801
Almost always I combine it with a kitted out initiation cruiser, extra burn, micro warp jump. Catch an eldar, reel it in and watch the rest of the fleet panic trying to save it.

You need to learn how to catch them. I've had at least 100+ games where people just warped out of frustration after 3 minutes. If you can't decisively corner the smelldar it's the fault of your play style. At 5 minutes you should have a decisive engagement.

>>46919453
I am no fucking bad at this game

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>>46920866
I love my Despoiler. It's just so fucking handy in all situations, and surprisingly mobile with the Tzeentch favour, sensors, and MWJ.

>>46920884
Realistically it's pretty useless because of its horrible mobility and actually pretty unimpressive durability.

The only battleship that's completely practical is the Voidstalker. Despoilers are okay too.

>>46920866
The retribution is fantastic heavily armoured broadside spewing death brick when it's upgraded.

>>46920917
Just play eldar then. Line up, shoot pulse, 180 flip, dash. Repeat as necessary.

>>46920984
NEVER
Imperial Navy for life!

>>46920778
Oh also...

Don't spam frigates. I saw way too many people doing this. Cruiser skills kill Eldar, mobs will just get targeted at their weak points, kited and picked apart through pulsar strikes.

If you're a Kunin' Ork you keep your front toward enemy and make your 75 armor work for you. Cluster your cruisers to act as a bomber screen dropping back your lead cruiser to the rear and continue leapfrogging and dropping skills and zap cannon shots until the puny knife ears scream mercy.

>>46920917
welcome to the scrub club. i lost 13 solo skirmishes on normal in a row.

>>46920991
Is the right answer.

Now the question anon, is what are you doing wrong?

I have more problems with Orks than with Eldar. (Chaos)

>>46921039
I feel you brother. These greenskins just don't want to die to my macrocannon barrages and once they are upclose, it get messy real fast;

>>46921078
Do like the elves and lance the bitch.

>>46921078
>Tractor
>Tractor
>Taunt
>Ram
>Kannon
>explode

>>46921016
Playing IN

>>46920991
Don't underestimate the Dauntless. It's one of the most flexible ships in the game and it's got a nice balance between speed/durability, especially with the right upgrades

Are Chaos captains Space Marines or mere cultists?

>>46921200
They'd be space marines most of the time, or potentially traitor imperial captains.

>>46920962
Don't you talk about my retty like that you minmaxing whore

>>46921246
I would assume Chaos is going to keep really talented captains around, one way or another.

So the captains will get some kind of upgrade sooner or later if they perform well enough.

>>46920778
If you don't have something to counter eldar mobility you'll get wrecked most of the time.

It's possible to run a single voidstalker down with specialized dauntlesses (shield transferring, shield reinforcing admech ones with maneuver gauge upgrade works well) and ram them to death.

Chaos shit, either two cruisers or light cruisers with marks of slaanesh and propulsion upgrades can also do the same thing, multiple nova cannons can also be a issue.

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>BG is so fucking buggy even the discussion forms on steam are bugged and won't let you post now.

>>46919786
>the official story says that they were destroyed
They spontaneously explode when he retreats. It's not known whether Abaddon did it using the Eye of Night as a remote-detonator, or it might have been the Eldar somehow, or even the Deceiver himself.

At any rate, Abaddon had two and they showed up during the 13th Black Crusade.

The first attacked Cadia, helping to bombard the surface. It was again assaulted by a combined Human-Eldar alliance, who managed to get the Farseer Eldrad Ulthran onboard to try and seize control. But he found there was a portion of Slaanesh themself possessing the psychic circuits, so his body exploded and he got stuck in the fortress with them. Then a buttload of Necrons attacked it as well, forcing it to retreat into the Eye.

The second was wandering around with the Terminus Est, and again got gang-jumped by Necrons. No mention as to whether it survived.

what vidya game be that

>>46921301
Also a single widowmaker will save your life.

>>46921296
Chaos is pretty big on infighting, backstabbing, rule of the strong, and outright self-destructive tendencies.

>>46921309
>discussion forms on steam
>won't let you post
And nothing of value was lost.

>>46921309
I'll simulate the steam forum for you
>hackers hacking me with hacks
>how do I play this game
>eldar nerf when
>crash on launch on my Croatian built laptop I bought in 1997
>voidstalker wtf
>cheaters
>pulses op nerf
>my amd powered toaster cant run this game
>lag on 56k dial up
>Nerf eldar battleship
>campaign videos too loud

>>46920962
It's just as fast as the other imperial ships except dauntless and escorts, with thruster upgrade it's just as maneuverably as well
The broadsides are pretty scary and it has really good range

>>46921359
>>46921411
Trying to report a bug.

>>46921411
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBISfv-6hfo
>wil i got DLC
>ching-chong nip-nong
>y are there no women captains
>dis gaem is bat
>my feet hurt

>>46921454
Got to http://forum.battlefleetgothic-armada.com/ instead, no sane person cares about steam forums and it's unlikely the poor pajeet who has to read your report will understand it.

>>46921424
For its cost you're better of with two cruisers in my opinion.

>>46921497
I like taking it when I'm playing with a friend who uses carriers or support ships because it directs attention to it and can take a lot of damage still while forcing the enemy to stay out of range

>>46921484
Yeah I'm not doing all that to report a bug

>>46921527
I agree with you in the instance that you're playing with a bro. Doing 2v2 with a pub and taking a retribution doesn't work out well in my experience, randoms are too awful.

No wonder they get shat on by eldar so often.

>>46921543
Look at it this way - if it is a big bug, other people will encounter it as well and somebody else will report. If it is a small bug, they probably wouldn't look into it anyway because that's low priority.
And there's also the possibility that it's actually a feature and you're just not using it right.

>>46921612
new bug that puts you in what looks like spec mode(you look at it from the side angle all the way from the far side of the map). You can't do anything but the game is still going on worse of all. You can't issue commands to your ships but the enemy can still attack you. I tried exting out and coming back but the whole screen was black minus the in game hub (The match was still going on during all of this)

The only way to beat this bug is to get out and Force Stop the game twice.

I take that buffing troops is only useful for brawlers.

So what's better, Slaughter or Carnage?

>>46921677
Well yeah. If you expect to be boarding a lot/being boarded a lot then it helps.

>>46921827
Carnage
Especially with slanesh, rapes eldar, literally and figuratively

Orks:
>Slow, not very manoeuvrable
>Powerful short-range cannons
>Powerful boarding

Astartes:
>Slow, not very manoeuvrable
>Powerful short range cannons
>Powerful boardings

Vidya-terms, how are Tindalos going to actually give them distinct playstyles and not just have Astartes being "Orks, but without the funny parts"?

>>46921873
Carnage it is. That broadside does look delicious.

>>46921874
Much lower insubordination chance, better attack range, can execute high-energy turns, no BRB, and Thunderhawks. Not to mention whatever favors they get.

>>46921874
Space marines have 75 armor all around.

>>46921874
Presumably by giving them a paltry number of capital ships and making them fucking useless as allies in 2v2 fights.

It's not like I wanted to save that world from Chaos or anything.

Who else here was a top goy for pre-ordering this game off of steam.

>>46922027
Got it off GMG instead. The devs still of the mind that only Steam purchases get the next 2 fleets for free?

>>46922103
>The devs still of the mind that only Steam purchases get the next 2 fleets for free?
Some other random key seller sites get them as well but not GMG. The publisher really fucked that one up.

Can this be a vermintide general too or is that boat sailed

>check official forums
>there's a poll on which faction people want next
>people want the tau

Hey, anons, female captain is announced!

It's an orc wearing a wig. Not really..

>>46922199
>people seriously wanting to deal with tau

i'd rather have tyranids, would make for some interesting faction mechanics as well

>>46922199
Tau are popular. They have been since they came out.

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>>46922199
>Mechanicus only getting 6% of the votes

>>46922199
>>46922224
This isn't 40k people. Tau just an ordinance heavy fleet with mostly front facing guns. They're actually pretty cool on the tabletop and have pretty distinct ships rather than build your own tyranid ones. If you want to complain about a fleet complain about eldar or necrons since they break the most game mechanics.

>>46922246
>people want distinct fleets not just IN with admech favor plus the arc mechanicus.

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>>46922248
>They're actually pretty cool on the tabletop
>have pretty distinct ships

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>>46922262
Ridiculous, the Omnissiah is the only thing they need.

Is it even possible to beat that eldar first encounter assassination mission?

No meme answers please. Like taunt only works for like 4 seconds and Imperial ships are ass against eldar who can just zip away.

>>46922246
>tfw you will never have a sister of battle waifu
Why live?

>>46922301
Their rules on the TT literally were modified IN cruisers, their only special thing was the Ark.

>>46920049

They're rare because they're only found on capital void ships.

>>46922326
I think you need to try and box the target into the corner and focus, from the off, in killing it. I let myself get slightly distracted by the other ships and I was unable to stop the target from warping out. Didn't help that both my lightning strikes failed, either.

>>46922199
Tau would be my choice as well. If they're adding a new faction, I'd rather it be something completely new, instead of an existing faction with different coat of paint and a few extra tricks (which is what Admech, Carftworld Eldar, and ultimately even Dark Eldar are). That least Necrons, Nids and Tau.
Properly representing the way Nids work in the tabletop (and considering how closely they'd been sticking to the tabletop, I assume they'd want them to play like in the original game), with everything outside synape range following a flowchart (or in this case, probably reverting to AI control), would be kind of hard to do well. Necrons on the other hand are so ridiculously broken it isn't even funny.
Tau, on the other hand, have a decent amount of ships (especially if they'd include ships from the old and new fleets, and other allied xenos like Kroot and Demiurg), and have a distinct playstyle (long range, lots of powerful forward-facing guns, but not particularly mobile, and bad at boarding actions) that would set them apart from other factions, while not being Necron-level isanely OP.

>>46922326

It's pretty easy. Dauntlesses can catch an Eldar LC if he doesn't juke, which the AI won't

>>46922338
>>46922246
>wanting factions that don't even have their own distinct spacecraft types.

You'll get tyranids before you get this dumb shit and you had to make them out of accessory and weapon sprues.

>>46922199
I just want my Necrons already.

>>46920049
>Why does everything bigger than an escort have a teleportarium anyway? I thought those things are rare

There's no contradiction there, the line ships are not exactly rubber boats, they're kilometres long, crewed by thousands and built using enough resources to construct entire cities, having a teleportarium in one of those is not handing them out like candy or anything.

>>46922422
I was super against making them OP, but now thinking about it it would be easy to do. Just have it auto-mutiny phase out your fleet after you lose X amount of points.

>>46922357
>>46921874

>slow

Astartes are about chaos speed, but with high armor.

The difference is that Strike Cruisers are the primary capital ship for astartes and they're CLs. So while astartes have high armor they're lower HP.

They're like reverse chaos, fast but depend on boarding/lightning strikes.

>>46922401


Mechanicus has a CL, a cruiser and a battleship. They're not just IN ships

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>>46922495
>Has A cruiser and A battleship
>They're not just IN ships, honest guys!

>>46922495
I think the problem with these smaller factions is that you'd not only need new ship models, you'd also have to redesign the UI for the faction and add new voice acting. This would make the DLC relatively expensive while people would only see three new ships and pass on it.

>>46922199
>No Necron

>>46922549
That's a pretty good point.
>inb4 this actually happens
>inb4 they get declared as jews and are branded as heretics

>>46922542

They're no more IN than space marines are

>>46922465
what are you talking about, chaos ships are pretty fast.

>>46922609

In TT space marine and chaos ships have identical speed, both are a bit faster than IN.

>>46922605
It doesn't matter what lore says, what does matter is that there are going to be fully prized fleets that use same ships as a pre-existing faction and that there will be more of those ships for this purchasable faction than there is going to be original ships for that new faction.

>>46922684
>what does matter is that there are going to be fully prized fleets
So, how's working for focus interactive?

>>46922199

And that's why they will release them....for the first expansion.

Spire's hand points the Ultima Segmentum in the Final Cinematic.

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>>46922542
They're not, though. Mechanicus fleets work differently to imperial ones. Customization and upgrades aside, they play more like beefy Chaos than IN, relying on lances and novas from medium range rather than just j-j-jamming your fully erect golden eagle into some unfortunate xenos.
It'd be a low-effort faction, as well, since they could use a lot of parts from Imperial models.

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>get in a match
>select ships
>match begins
>you have capitulated

wat

>>46922765
When you gotta go you gotta go

>>46922684

the three unique mechanicus ships are their own hull types, they don't use the IN ships, although I think they can share escorts

>>46919932
>Maybe they'll be able to borrow IN ships to fill in the gaps.
Space marines have their own frigates. But that's not improbable at the higher levels, I recall reading a source from BFG that says that battle barge is more descriptor than a class, and while there is an Astartes Battle Barge pattern, any battleship can be a battle barge (IIRC it says the Space Wolves like Retributions).

It'll never show up in game but it also said some chapters have their own pattern of Battle barge

>>46922801

This is correct, there are rules for converting any imperial capital ship into a battle barge, they don't actually have to be BBs.

>>46922246
He's talking about her power armor

>>46922601
They could probably make an Imperial Navy expansion pack.
>Add the missing ships for IN, like grand crusiers
>Add Inquisition and Admech
>Keep current UI and voices for them
>Run the voices through a filter for admech
>Presto
$12.99

>>46922798
Ok, i take my previous points back then.
Those hulls can be armed with different kinds of weapons so they become different ship classes. Right?

>>46922865
No, wrong.

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Any drawfags here?

Could someone make a new version of this pic, with admiral Spire and that Eldar prince?

>>46922843
I 'unno. $13 sounds excessive, but maybe if it had everything I want out of such a pack (a little more music/IN themes, more portraits, all my favorite ships, etc.)
$8 seems a much more plausible number. Given their behavior with the preorder bonuses, I don't think they're interested in pretending they're EA or Paradox with the DLC, they might try and treat us square.

>>46922865


They have a lot of customization and could work like orks do now. They're also super fucking cowardly and run away at the drop of a hat

>>46922897
With an eldar BB ramming an ork ship and exploding in the background.

>>46922897
I can try something like this, might take some time, and it will be black& white.

>>46922897
Tbh can any britfags comment but admiral spire had the best British accent I've ever heard. Fuck that guy sounded like a gentlemen

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>>46922910
>Given their behavior with the preorder bonuses
>I don't think they're interested in pretending they're EA or Paradox with the DLC

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>>46922326
Yes. Yes it is.

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>>46923016
What's it like running a game at 16 bits in 2016

Anyone find out how the get Burn the Heretic and Old Glory?

>>46922932
Just post it in one of these threads, please?

So my toaster is kind of garbage. If it can run DoW II without issues, as a game that came out longer ago than I think any of us want to admit, can it handle BFG if I dial the graphics settings back?

>>46923136
Yes.

>>46923028
I'm not only doing that, but I have to save and quit every two missions or my computer overheats. Check your privilege, anon. :^)

>>46923142
Cool. I'll get it when I get paid next. Exciting. I can't wait to suck at space combat

>>46923172
As long as you buy it on steam, you can return the game within the first two hours.

>>46923228
I'm broke at the moment. Its been a way more expensive couple weeks than it usually is for me due to some unexpected stuff.

>>46923254
If you're need to be worried about wasting your shekels, just grab it somewhere off the net before buying.

Anyway, the campaign is still in pretty rough shape, imbalanced, and a lot of missions aren't any fun when the game decides to force you to play with a computer ally because their AI is shit. Multiplayer is plagued by chaters, griefers, and shoddy balancing.

You don't really miss out on anything by waiting for your next pay day. The devs are working to fix things but unsurprisingly a team of 12 people works relatively slowly.

how2imperium?

seriously i'm up to the 1st planetary assault during campaign and getting rekt every game

these fucking chaos niggers

>>46923429

Either don't rely on your slow ass ships and use at least one dauntless and one squadron of swords or put the combustion recharge skill on your cruisers

>>46922934
>best British accent
>who is David Attenborough
>who is Brian Blessed
you've clearly heard about 2 British accents you shitter

>>46923527

>David Attenborough

Best old guy British accent.

>Brian blessed

Literally who

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>>46922897
>>46922932
commodore drawfag reporting in, sire. here is the current result. is Spire recognizable on my shitscribble ? Currently looking for a reference of Prince Smuggface the Fag.

>>46923429
What helped me was the age old method of TURN IT INTO CRUISER CLASH AND BRING YOUR BIGGEST SHIPS! ANNIHILATE ENEMY FLEET! IT IS THE ONLY WAY!

>>46923593


Fuckin love it

>>46923593
glorious

>>46923593
10/10 would use as the OP in a thread shilling the game to /v/

>>46923593
That Spire is great.

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>>46923593
Looks good senpai.
>mfw I just melted an imperial faggot with my pulsar runbys.
It is funny how they try to focus down my ships as they make their exit from their pulsar raping, thus giving a wide open assholes for the other incoming auroras to penetrate with their pulsar lances.

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>>46923593
Spire looks good.
Here's a small pic of Eldar prince.

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>>46923674

>>46923429
If they aren't engaging you, rush to the bombardment positions. If they are, annihilate them before the timer runs out.

>>46923694
ELDAR WITH BEARDS

>>46923717
Not a bear, some kind of mask or skin replacement.

>>46922199
>people want a race that has no warp-technology

enjoy not being able to warp out, faggots.

>Ravensburg uses the propaganda version of the speech at Gethsemane

Also, that mission was kinda dissapointing. They could have pulled the stops and made it a fuckhuge set-piece with a ton of allies.

Well, at least the Space Hulk was fun to fight and the Warboss went out in the most orky way possible.

>>46923593
Fantastic. I think Spire's face is a little narrower, but it's definitely recognisable as him.

>>46923742
>muh better than necron drive technology retcon
The forums will end up even worse once the tau fags arrive.

>>46923742
the tau do have warp technology though. they just barely use it. they skim across the edge of the warp and only make super short jumps.

>>46923717
>>46923728
It is the bottom of his helmet, the part where the war mask attaches to.

>>46923707
To add to this, use the "Reload" order to recharge your maneuver bar faster.

>>46923578
>Brian blessed
>literally who
I'm calling the police, you're going to a re-education camp for this.

is there a point to playing as imperial with a chaos teammate
everytime i start wondering why my two ships are encircled by 10 enemies and look at the map he's sitting in some nebula on the other side of the map doing nothing

>>46923801
Nobody outside your inbred island knows about him, deal with it teabag.

>>46923817
Don't get someone retarded to "Help" you.
Imps brawl, Chaos provides fire support and fighters.
Only time chaos does knife-fighting is against Eldar really.

>>46923827
We on the other side of the small pond know who he is burger

>>46923787
>>46923728
bitch you are RUINING this for me

>>46922934
Mark Strong is a fantastic actor, both on screen and as a voice actor. He also did the voice for captain Titus in Space Marine.

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>>46923770
>>46923694
>>46923674
>>46923668
>>46923648
>>46923647
>>46923612
thanks for the comment. I agree, Spire face is narrower, I'll correct that, the shading will help for that. as well. something s wrong concernign the ears.
thanks for the link concerning Eldrathain the Homlallaprancing faggot. I waas using the game files to get the appropriate cinematic.
no, the eldar is in. Not used to do an anime/caricature style, is that ok, before I go on ?

>>46924021
I don't think prince lalahomoman has a ponytail.
Or its definitely lower than that.

Then again, that could be just perspective.

Other than that, i got no gripes with this, it looks awesome anon and you made it very fast too.

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Wow, I totally fucking suck with Eldar. But they're fun to play just so I can zoom around at Sanic-speeds.
What are some good upgrades for my smaller ships?

>>46924068
it is lower in his ingame icone portrait, but higger in the inquisitorial file/cinematic. I used the latter, in a nod of the original meme, but I can lower that.

>>46923944

Wait Mark Strong is Admiral Spire?

>>46924107
Folks might pay more attention to his ingame portrait more than to that inquisitorial file pic.

Oh well, do as you will, im happy with it already and as it gets more detailed ill be just more happy, regardless of how the details are.

>>46924084


Vauls maneuver is pretty much mandatory

>>46924084
You put sensor range on your pulse shit l, that's your first mistake. You should use pulse range and aim for the red dots and shoot blind at the tip of your range. After that improve run silent time.

>>46924159
Did you just say... Mandatory?

Is that the nerf cannon i hear charging up?

>Playing IN vs Eldar
>he's got 1 LC and I got a BC and a LC left but their engines are fucked
>go hide in a cloud for 10 minutes because the eldar refuses to attack
>win because I'm the defender
Fucking Eldars.

>>46924185


Maybe increase the cooldown but honestly it's just good, not broken. They actually fixed a bug with it in the new patch so it actually got unintentionally buffed

>>46924202
VOID
COMBAT
STRATEGY

>>46924202
He should have been able to kill you tbqh

>>46924202


For im going to level Eldar, I'm going to make you feel my pain too

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>>46924171
>improve run silent time
No reason to. You want to use it to re-blip yourself after an accidental ID when no clouds are available, not run silent all day like Chaos does.
Just take lance range, lance shield damage, and your choice of third. Asteroid immunity is nifty, as it gives you more angles of attack and more ways to re-stealth.

>>46924021
The fucking 8-D makes it.

>>46924185
It's mandatory because of prevailing void combat strategy, which is in turn founded on the holofield nerf, not because it's broken in itself.

>playing chaos/orkz v. Chaos orkz
>two ork fleets meet
>BIG RED BUTTON
>collisions
>boarding parties
>mayham
>two minutes or less later, both ork fleets are insubordinationing out
>Chaos' face when of both fleets only a single half dead Ork light cruiser stayed and the battle has barely started

>>46924134
I'm pretty sure, yeah

>>46924415
The boyz had their fun and fucked off in search of fightier pastures. Nothing unusual about that.

>>46924292
You want to use it so you can be a member of the saim-han ambush master race and two shot kill battleships.

>>46924134
Wait. Shit I might be thinking of the Eisenhorn Game

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>>46924484
Nothing beats breaking the backs of traitor scum on your mighty armored prow!

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>>46924484
Anon this is a blue board

>>46924545
>muh pic

God bless you little Dauntlesses

>>46924464
You can do that just as well without the upgrade, the duration is long enough to fire the pulsar, vaul, and bugger off.

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>>46924484
>>46924545
>>46919453
I kind of want a Dauntless dildo now.

Do favours unlock at some point in the campaign?

>>46924648
Yes, ch3, along with a way to make them cheaper.

>>46924588
You measurably can't do it as well. With the upgrade the period where you're not running silent is only 20 seconds, which makes you much more survivable against people who're vaguely competent and not just sitting stationary with their thumbs up their asses.

If you're using lock on and have the 300% crit chance you can argue against it, but you still have 5 upgrade slots, so you should still take it.

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>>46924673
>mfw looking forward to spehss mahrine Overlord BC

>>46924021
now that's the face of an elf who shits crystals

>>46924021
Drawfag brother- you're making miracles happen.

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>>46924021
10/10, we need more drawfriends like you

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Commodore drawfag reporting in !
Shading is haldf done, working about to began about Admiral Spire. According from further report from his Lordship Admiral Anon, Spire's face has been sligthy reduced. Is he better now, before I finish the drawing ?

>>46925008
I think spire has a bit more hair.

>>46925008
Incredibly damn solid.
Will you be touching it up digitally afterward, or do you only do graphite?

>>46925038
I'm a pencil& paper guy, can't really alter the thing afterward with only a muse and MSpaint. If someone can & will upgrade the thing afterward, do so.

>assassination mission
>I'm Imperial Navy, opponent is Chaos
>After a lot of micro I manage to pin down his flagship and get off a lucky lightning strike to disable his warp jump
>His fucking captain goes insubordinate and escapes anyway

They really didn't think these missions through did they? If you're an Ork attacker you might as well warp out your ships right at the beginning, and data recovery missions are even worse. Make the timer 5 not 3 minutes for a start, and make it so you need to use a boarding action and not a lightning strike. That way you instantly destroy the massive advantage Eldar players get.

>>46925008
i think Spire needs to be more angry

>>46925116
No, the standard Imperial Navy-issue scowl should be enough for any loyal officer. Any more and you dip into heresy.

FUCKING SLAANESH FUCKS

Why are my ships retreating at full health? It's only supposed to raise the chance by 10%

>>46925465
it stacks :^)

>>46925481
wut, no way

Just bought the game, been going through the campaign. The Ork pirate introduction is the best thing ever.

>>46925491
It does. Each ship has an aura that stacks with those of other ships. All glory to the hypnogod.

>>46925481

That would make sense, he had at least 3 Slaanesh upgrades

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>>46925531
prepare to be nerfed tentacle fuck

nothing a couple of commissars can't sort out anyway

>>46925526
[foghorn]

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Faster regenerating shields, right?

Can't imagine what other upgrades would have as much effect on the ship's staying power

>>46925526
The gretchin revolutionary committee cameo is brilliant

>>46925683
Keep in mind that it's an useless upgrade if your generator blow up and gen are one of the most focused thing.

>>46925603
I love it when you crit yourself for me. Blam them harder, commissar~

>>46925076
Should always try to LS/board with at least 2 ships because of that.

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>>46925526
>start an ork fleet
>kustomize all me ships wiv all assault boats n boarding torpedoes
>wonder if lack of dakka is un orky
>realize I iz shootin orks as me dakka
>dat's as orky as like, three orks
>WAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!!

WHAT THE FUCK IT JUST HAPPENED AGAIN

AGAINST THE FUCKING ELDAR

I LOST ONE LIGHT CRUISER AND THREE OTHER SHIPS WENT INSUBORDINATE

This must be cheats, no way that happens at a 12% chance each.

That FUCKING Eldar admiral mission how the sweet blueberry fuck am I supposed to blast him in time

>>46925882
Just use Lightning strike whenever he tries to warp. Don't even try to board until the timer hits zero

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>>46925116
>>46925273
Commodore Drawfag reporting in !
indeed, keeping with Spire demeanour in game, i kept the Adamantium ball pattern Scorn.
Hope that it will please you all.

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>>46925882
Nova Cannons. Praise the motherfucking Omnissiah. Alternatively, load up on Dauntlesses, press the little twat against the wall, and ram repeatedly.

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After playing all the races, I officially declare that ORKZ ARE DA BEST EVAH!
Seriously, they're the only fun race to play.

>>46925526
I would buy an Ork campaign DLC in a heartbeat.

>>46925937
Fantastic work Commodore Drawfag. You're doing the Emperors work.

>>46925937
exquisite

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>>46925937
Your work is magnificent commodore drawfag.

I hereby promote you to Rear Admiral Drawfag!

Is anyone else having problems using skills? I can't fire my nova cannon, and I can't use any skills at all. The last guy I played said he has the same problem.

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Got some more pics from my current game.
Closing the finish line already, got to the beginning of the battle of Schindlers list or whatever it was called.
Got my battleship blown up by the planet killer (im blaming the red sun on the background of our battle, due to it i didnt notice the red hazard mark).

Oh yeah and i ran into Terminus est

>>46926337
Little disappointed in how weak the chaos cult capital ships are in normal/hard mode. I took out the Slaanesh one even in a fucking Planetary Assault.

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>>46926337
>Abaddon destroys a system with his fortresses
>Few people survive
>The system was the very first system to get exterminatusd
>Few people survived Abaddons attack

Did the =][=nquisition fuck up?

>>46926337
>all the special ships are just chaos BBs with favours
disappointment.exe

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>>46926370
And this battle is breddy awesome from the get go, you get 700 points to spend all by yourself.

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>>46926396
Not only that, but also Lord admiral Ravensburg comes in to aid with his fleet and if you allied with the Eldar they come too to ram minefields and asteroid fields.

>>46925607
That's "whistle" landlubber.

>>46925882
Stasis Bombs/Taunt/get into 3k boarding range and then board him when he tries to jump.

Just wait until you get to some planetary assaults, that's where the game becomes infuriating.

>keep all my ships evenly spaced in the middle of the map
>still can't reach an objective in a minute in a half with a light cruiser

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>>46926419
And a final larger picture of the battlefield.

>>46926419
I rejected the Eldar Alliance and I rejected their help against the traitor guy, what do I get?

>>46926453
Well, you wont get to use their webway gate which gives you a 4th deployment per turn.
Also you dont have to do any missions with them, THANK THE EMPEROR

>>46926453
>what do I get?
To be the Imperial equivalent of Macha.

>>46926453
I was told you unlock the Old but Gold achievement if you spare him and the Burn the Heretic if you kill him if you did what you did.
Can you confirm that?

>>46926420
what's the difference
It might as well be a klaxon for all I can tell.

>>46926278
I'm honored, Lord Admiral Ravensburg. i hope I will dully serve the Navy with this new responsabilities.

I am standing by , waiting for any new mission Battlefleet Anon will order me to.

>>46926623
Okay here me out...
a comic...
about a color blind Ork Ard'miral telling a grot to press the green button (when really its red)

Is there any hope for an ork player vs Eldar/Chaos that know what they are doing?

>>46926623
Don't you mean Battlefleet /tg/?

Has anyone managed to use ordnance bays effectively as the IN? I get the feeling that you need a critical mass for them to be effective and unless you invest very heavy into particular ships they're virtually useless.

>>46926663
Sit in a gas cloud and wait for them to come for you, also use probes.

>>46926711
What should I customize Ork ships to be vs Eldar though?

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>>46925937
Perfect, 10/10. Anon delivered!

Thinking back, have there been any 40k games where the Eldar acted remotely sane?
>BFG: SUPERIOR VOID STRATEGIES - slams into asteroids, mines, orks and themselves
>DoW 2: running round in circles forever
>DoW 1: A million Eldar corpses to take a single Imperial bunker? Fair trade.

>>46926652
Errr...

Not that I don't like your idea, admiral Anon, but that might be a bit beyond my skill and time. Especially considering that I only work in blakc andwhite, and your gag would be better if the final panel is all in green, except of course the Big Red Button.

>>46926735
Id go with lotsa guns combined with lotsa big guns and some zappas.

Then upgrade your tellyporters to get an extra assault action and then keep on boosting yer boyz.

As for favors, well, massing nova cannons is one way of doing it, tractor beams is another way of doing it and that long range assault action giving one sounds neat too.
Remember to set aim for sails and generators.

>>46926776
What if you make the black and white version and we order another anon to color it?

>>46926709
I use my Mars all the time, and find that even rudimentary fighter cover helps quite a lot.
Offensively you kind of need the Emperor Class to get mileage out of flyers, but with four bays and a Mars to spam fighters it can deliver some heavy hits.

>>46926735
Taunt on every ship. No exceptions. ALL OF THEM.

>>46926777
Zapp Kannonz don't do squat against elves. Get tellyportas and paint everything red.

>>46926557
I haven't gotten either yet, maybe when the chapter finishes I will.

>>46926709
Only Chaos can really do global strike craft offensively (theoretically Eldar can as well, but I've never seen it). The Imperial ones mostly exist to help you defend against such a tactic, maybe snipe out an unprotected escort from time to time, and land the last bit of damage on a ship who thought they were far enough away to warp out.

>>46926825
Aight, in zapp cannons place use just more guns.

After all, the idea of eldar holofields is to make your accuracy crap, but when you launch a million bullets at an enemy, mathematics dictate that at least 10% of them make a hit and 10% of a million is 100000.
With that many hits you are bound to do some damage.

>>46926880
Think I should auto-assign Fighters then with my Mars/Dictator class ships as IN instead of using attack craft?

>>46926880
Wouldn't a few escorts with extra turrets do that almost as well and for a lot cheaper?

>>46927038
As a Chaos player, I hit escorts with my bombers first. It knocks out a load of turrets every time damage goes through, and they have a better shot of catching me than the heavier classes.

>>46926932
Don't take Dictators at all. Take one Mars, give it the Mechanicus favour, and use it for all your support and utility needs. Fighter cover, nova cannons, 12k lances, macros, skills for days, this ship has it all.

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Nailing those torp spreads is lamsot as satisfying as ramming things.

>>46927178
I love the Mars so mcuh. As soon as I got one it became the heart of my formation. I gave mine Inquisition, for the "being better than you" crew points and infinite range scanning.

But mostly just so I can ram with a giant =][=

>>46927231
Lunar and Tyrant, bros for life.

Taunt is pure bullshit and should be removed, or heavily altered.
Taking your control away of your ships in a strategy game like this, where control is crucial, is completely unacceptable.

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>>46927231
>Getting that close to Imperial Ships as Chaos
>Probably used his Microwarp earlier
>His other ships are clearly way out of position to support it

He deserved what he got. Chaos does not need more weaklings.

Hot damn I am playing IN next though. Holy shit.

>>46926796
Ok, I'm trying to do something about that then.

>>46921329
Why is Eldrad such a dick?

Emperor be with you, Abridal.

>>46927315
I see where you're coming from but without it Eldar would be completely invincible in the hands of a good player. It already only lasts for half the time with them

>>46926740
Admittedly, in DoW 2 everybody runs in circles forever.

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>mfw I alt tab and close the game whenever I am about to lose a ship, so that I won't have to pay any renown to fix them.

>>46927655
Just use literally any other ship
how can you be so bad

>>46927655
To my shame I've rage quit a couple of times but I always seem to lose my ships anyway

Do you guys have torpedoes set to auto-fire on multiplayer or just singleplayer?

>>46927729
Nah, I'd rather lose no ships at all.

>>46927770
For escorts I auto but for Line ships i fire manually

>>46925937
10/10 work
This is now canon.

>>46927747
No shame in preventing the loss of your ships m8.

>>46926776


A comic with two dauntlesses ramming a chaos cruiser and Lord Commissar yelling at their captains "You two! Dance like you want to win!"

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>>46927433
>>46926796
Rear-admiral Drawfag reporting in.

this is going to sound insane but I could swear my Gothic seems slower than my other cruisers. I don't quite get why.

>>46927315
Eldar player detected

The only problem is chain taunting imo. Same with chain ork pull things.

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>mfw just beat an assassination mission against chaos as Eldar.
>mfw the chaos player tried to block my path by making a wall out of his lineships around his admiral ship, but I just sped trough the cracks in the blockade, and melted his admiral ship away.

>>46927909
ah, posted too quickly. here is the storyboard of the comic thing thingie. might take a whle to complete it properly, and I'll go to sleep soon.
Your opinions ?

>>46927889
how about a single panel, with a Fleet comissar teaching schola progenia "VOID TACTICA 101 : SPIN TO WIN ? " showing the two dauntless ramming a chaos cruiser ?

>>46927933


Taunt should be percentage based against the insubordination chance of the ship. More commissar/squigs, less chance of taunt succeeding

>>46927933
The Eldar are affected the most by the taunt yes, but that doesn't make it any less bullshit.
Taunt should do something like make the ship only be able to target the ship that taunted it, not completely strip the control of the unit away from the player.

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>>46928045
>Voidstalkerbab detected

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>>46928045

Tyrant or Lunar? I cant decide

I have a Dom and Gothic and will get 2 Mars and a Ret if that hepls

>>46928117
>>46928178
>not even having an argument.
What sort of plebs are you? Taunt is an ability that intrinsically favors factions like the IN and Orks, while shits completely on chaos and eldar.
It is poorly designed, and the fact that it removes the control you have of your ships, in a game that is all about ship control, makes it extremely unfit for the game.

>>46928045
Trust me I'm an eldar player too, we already got half taunt duration, chain taunting is literally the only problem. Take 3 seconds to micro 1 more click and you're fine, it does hurt people who just highlight fleet and click though.

>>46928229
Of course it favours IN and Orks and it should, because it is nigh impossible for these factions to deal with Chaos or Eldar without abilities that remove ship control

>>46928045
taunting is honestly one of the only things that keep eldar in line.

>>46928229
Have you never heard of crowd control? It's been a thing in games for a while now.

>>46928045
We're laughing at you because vs a good eldar player, taunt is the IN or Ork's only chance.

The fact you're having issue seeing it makes it funnier.

>>46928250
Then those factions are themselves, badly designed.
No ability should remove the player's control of their fucking ships, in a game that is about controlling god damn ships.

>>46928339
it also shouldn't have magically backflipping bullshit elf ships.

It does.

>>46928229
It's a wargame. Some of the first wargames had impartial arbitrators who would discard half the orders for an army every turn, on the premise that it's a battle, you lose control, have shitty information, and things just don't work right sometimes.

Eldar also have the lowest taunt duration on them, so they are most resistant to it.
You have a plan, that's good, but you gotta account for the enemy trying to fuck up your plan, not just playing along cheerfully while you murder them.

>>46928339
>No ability should remove the player's control of their fucking ships, in a game that is about controlling god damn ships.

That statement is unreasonable
Placing controlling abilities and using them properly is just as part of a game like that as mobility is

I can also say "No ability should be able to destroy my ships almost instantly in a game that is about playing with ships", yet pulsars.