Stat me

Size/Type: Large Magical Beast
Hit Dice: 5d10+25 (52 hp)
Initiative: +1
Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares)
Armor Class: 15 (–1 size, +1 Dex, +5 natural), touch 10, flat-footed 14
Base Attack/Grapple: +5/+14
Attack: Claw +9 melee (1d6+5)
Full Attack: 2 claws +9 melee (1d6+5) and bite +4 melee (1d8+2)
Space/Reach: 10 ft./5 ft.
Special Attacks: Improved grab
Special Qualities: Scent
Saves: Fort +9, Ref +5, Will +2
Abilities: Str 21, Dex 12, Con 21, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 10
Skills: Listen +8, Spot +8
Feats: Alertness, Track
Environment: Temperate forests
Organization: Solitary, pair, or pack (3–8)
Challenge Rating: 4
Treasure: None
Alignment: Always neutral
Advancement: 6–8 HD (Large); 9–15 HD (Huge)
Level Adjustment: —

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>>46552402
We already have stats for his kind.

Or his hair, at least.

>>46552402
You'llbedisappointed/10

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JoJo FATE

Endurance 4
Finesse 2
Strength 4

Awareness 5
Intuition 5
Knowledge 5

Chummery 5
Fabulousness 5
Skulduggery 5

Resources 10
Fate 11
HP 20

Stand: 「THE WALL」
A massive humanoid figure dressed in red white and blue, capable of creating barriers between people with a flick of his arm, both physical and metaphysical, blocking mind, body or spirit as required. The strength of these barriers based on the willpower giving him strength. Unique among stands, he draws power not only from the user, but from the willingness of third parties to make deals with the user to their mutual benefit.

Destructive Power 5
Speed 1
Range 5
Durability 5
Precision 5

>>46552402

The true savior of the United States.

>>46552658
Psst anon.

Wrong stats for wrong character. Those are El Rato Cruz' block. :*)

>>46552717
You forgot Flaw: Tiny Hands

>>46553339

Oops, my bad.

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>>46552402
LVL human 1 noble with a small 1,000,000 GP loan from daddy. Got a shitload of flaws to buy the followers feat over and over.

>>46552402
Body: 30
Speed: 70
Mind: 35
Soul: 99
Under Budget 60
Ahead of Schedule 55
Avatar of the Demagogue 95

>>46552402

See >>46552632

An Owlbear with a bad combover in an ugly suit, currently running for an inconsequential political office in an irrelevant fictional nation.

Drop the natural armor to +2 at best, and reduce Cha to 8.

>>46553837
>>46553948

Lol.

>>46553948
Shoo shoo, Mr. Cruz. Your cruising for a bruising if you want to keep fucking rats like that.

>>46552402
Size/Type: Large Animal
Hit Dice: 5d8+13 (35 hp)
Initiative: +2
Speed: 30 ft. (6 squares), climb 15 ft.
Armor Class: 15 (-1 size, +2 Dex, +4 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 13
Base Attack/Grapple: +3/+13
Attack: Claw +8 melee (1d6+6)
Full Attack: 2 claws +8 melee (1d6+6) and bite +3 melee (1d8+3)
Space/Reach: 10 ft./10 ft.
Special Attacks: Rend 2d6+9
Special Qualities: Low-light vision, scent
Saves: Fort +6, Ref +6, Will +5
Abilities: Str 22, Dex 15, Con 14, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 7
Skills: Climb +14, Listen +5, Move Silently +4, Spot +6
Feats: Alertness, Toughness
Environment: Warm forests
Organization: Solitary or company (5-8)
Challenge Rating: 3
Treasure: None
Alignment: Always neutral
Advancement: 6-15 HD (Large)
Level Adjustment: —

>>46554296
He's clearly a polymorphed gold dragon

>>46553313
Can't be, Cruz is an Outsider.

>>46553339
Everyone loves to bring up his tiny, itty bitty hands and his bad toupee and his cheap spray-on tan, but nobody seems to have zeroed in on how fucking fat his face is getting. That ugly bitch is chubbing up.

>>46552402
You can't stat the God Emperor.

NE Human Aristocrat 6
Average stats except an 8 in Int and Wis. Lots of ranks in Bluff.

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>>46553449
So, so, so many flaws.

>>46555829

what

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>>46555864
The man's been a walking punchline for his entire public life

>>46552402
Chaotic Neutral Aristocrat with a bard level.

His Hairdo has more Cha than his competing candidates.

Also he's crashed that GOP plane and is literally forcing his way into being the Republican candidate.

I don't think the dude is as stupid as Bernbots, Hillary drones and Cruz supporters want you to believe.

He saw a chance and went ahead to take it.

The media shitting on him literally caused a backlash and painted him a rich pompous fop as fighting the establishment.

All the while he's been promoting the enforcement of already existing laws through simple minded speeches.
For example enforcing deportation and strict border control is needed to protect the work market in any country.
Only the rich fat landowners who rely on Mexican illegal immigrants to make a profit are kicking up a storm about it.

>>46555792
>8 int

Hate the man all you want, but there's no question he knows what he's doing.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/139541975641/the-trump-master-persuader-index-and-reading-list

If he talks like an idiot, it's because he's speaking to an audience of idiots--and he knows that--not because he is one himself.

Trump is playing to the crowd. He's nowhere near as stupid as people think and will likely just renege on all the promises he's made.

>>46557343
I don't think he's stupid, but he's narcissistic to the point of being blind, and more than a bit unstable. He's like the Charlie Sheen of politics.

>>46556802
Trump has proven himself to be an excellent strategist with a lot of charisma and is clearly someone who knows what they're doing.

Unfortunately, he's a gigantic cunt and is either a pathological liar or is so shifty on his stances that his actual stances are impossible to tell.

Also his hair is bad.

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>>46552632
You can't stat him in dungeons and dragons, you need something like World of Darkness, where you have rules for money and social status.

So let's say:
Intelligence 2
Wits 4
Resolve 2
Strength 2
Dexterity 1
Stamina 1
Presence 3
Manipulation 5
Composure 2

Then the important skills:
Politics 4
Empathy 3 (Personalities)
Intimidation 3 (Bluster, Veiled Threats)
Persuasion 3 (Sales Pitch)
Socialize 3
Streetwise 2 (Rumors)
Subterfuge 4 (Con Jobs, Lying, Misdirection)

And Merits:
Allies, Contacts, and Status, all taken multiple times for different political, business, and social circles
Fame
and Resources 5

Virtue: Fortitude
Vice: Pride
Flaws: Racist, Sexist, Embarrassing Secret (Tiny Hands)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ecEb4tEPic

>>46556100
this, people are being hilariously retarded and it doesn't change the fact the walking orange carrot man is winning, and winning handily because bernie appeals to hippies and stoners, Cruz is appealing to the bible thumping nutters, kasich isn't really appealing to shit with his neocon insanity, and hillary is literally the most toxic creature to walk the earth, literally the single most vile creature to have ever been conceived.

>>46559827
>this, people are being hilariously retarded and it doesn't change the fact the walking orange carrot man is winning,
Nah, he's just fucking the GOP. He's smart (more charisma smart than intelligence smart), but not THAT smart. He doesn't seem to realize that women are half the population, and he's pissed off about 7/8ths of them. Between that and the minority men, he's lost the general election.

>hillary is literally the most toxic creature to walk the earth, literally the single most vile creature to have ever been conceived.
I don't know. Bill's so disgusting, he thought her good enough to marry (and at some point fuck).

>>46552402
40k
WS2 BS2 S3 T3 W1 A0 I2 Ld5 Sv-

Trademark Item (Hair)

>>46553948
Why did you lie about dr Carson dropping out?

>>46559861
anon to be fair, bill did in fact not only cheat on her, hes pretty much gone on in interviews to point out how shes getting more pussy then he is. that shit is clearly a political marriage, otherwise he would have had his ass divorced after the shit he pulled in office.
also the shit i've read about thats shes done before, during and after that presidency is some special pile of corrupt bullshit, and right now shes even under investigation of ordering the murder of troops under obama. between all of this shit and the fact she aspires to be just like angela merkel, the current german fuhrer of the EU thats hell bent on destroying it by crashing all the economies with no survivors means hillary has no business being anywhere near the presidency.

>>46559827
The only reason that trump is winning is because every fucking media outlet cant shut the fuck about him. His has very little political merit and would probobly crash the country into the ground (but only time will tell) but he has a gold strategy, make shure the media talks about him so he seems like he never backs down and is the strong men. This happenes in every country, but in most situations the media stops talking about one candidate when it matters and starts talking about everyone. Im willing to bet my PC that if people talked as much about other candidates as they talked about trump, he would not even have 1/2 of the support he has right now.

>yfw legal hardworking Mexican immigrants are voting for Trump because he's for American jobs while illegals are voting for Hillary because she's for dodging federal charges

Every day the world gets darker and some liberal just turns on a lamp.

>>46559897
it doesn't help literally all the clowns running are unelectable fools that have no business running, hell trump shouldn't be running but at least the clown knows how to run the media.

>>46559888
Yeah, but you're forgetting that Bill Clinton is a serial rapist who has even had trips on Epstein's child sex flight cruises. I bet if it weren't for his political clout, we'd have a rape record big enough to make Cosby slow-clap.

As much as I hate Hillary's noxious corruption and bullshit, rape currently trumps bad politics on the crime tier list.

>>46559919
in all honesty if i had my way, the libertarians would win, but thats clearly never gonna happen because we are retarded as a nation and cannot into a multi party system to save our lives.

>>46552717
>Stand: 「THE WALL」

Sir you are my hero

>>46559907
To be fair, Shillary knows what she is doing but she is just a countinuation of america ellecting the rich and powerfull who dont give a fuck about the people, Berni has some sound ideas, and Cruz is at least not a compleat wild card. Trump is not a idiot or stupid, he is someone who never should be give power because he will abuse it or misuse it.

>>46559762
What would be Trump's clan? I think totally Ventrue, but would be interested does anyone else have other ideas.

>>46559861
>women and minorities

also known as "not the republican base"

>>46552402
I'm convinced that this man is the leader of the Brotherhood of Nod, wearing a wig and a suit.

>>46559962
hes a god damn fish-malk and you also know this in your heart.

>>46559979
>trump
>malk

Dream on, trump is ventru antiburu

>>46559962
Malkavian.

>>46559962
Lasombra.

>>46559942
I'm torn about the libertarians. On one hand, I love their social views, up to and including their views on firearms. On the other hand, I consider social programs to be infrastructure akin to train track or phone line... and I've seen how bad an idea it is to try and leave infrastructure entirely in the hands of the private sector.

I kind of like Bernie, but I doubt he'll win, and even if he does, I don't know if he can muster the support to make anything happen. The Repubs are pretty entrenched.

>>46560019
my problem with bernie is he has all these wonderful ideas about how to do things but literally no way or plan on how to implement them without killing the budget worse then bush or obama ever did, even with his MASSIVE budget increases from the sheer higher taxes everyone would be buried under.
it also doesn't help hes a self proclaimed socialist, and i've never seen socialism go anywhere good historically.

>>46560039
>i've never seen socialism go anywhere good historically
Hey, der Fuhrer almost made it.

>>46560039
democratic socialism =/= communism, communism dose not go anywhere, you have a lot of socialist countrys in the world, canada is preaty socialist. You dont have to implement everything at once, just doing college or healthcear would help the USA a lot in the long run.

>>46560051
you know, except for the fact he had it in his head that the best idea in the world is to fight all his neighbors, at the time it is most advantageous for them, or the fact he killed a fuckton of civilians out of sheer butthurt because he was wasn't allowed to be a liberal arts major in an art college, even if the official numbers may very well be exaggerated.

>>46560051
national socialism is more akin to communism than socialism

>>46560060
>canada under trudeau
>successful
anon plz, 6 months of him and canadas economy has already gone to hell, they dropped their entire economy at least 30% in that time.

>>46560039
>my problem with bernie is he has all these wonderful ideas about how to do things but literally no way or plan on how to implement them without killing the budget worse then bush or obama ever did
Obama did better for the budget, but note that the US has always run a deficit (with the exception of the Clinton era). I don't understand why people are suddenly freaking out about it in the past couple election cycles, like national debt is something we shouldn't have. This country has only had no debt for a single year of its entire existence... why does it threaten our lives now?

If we can print money to fight bullshit wars, we can print money to take care of our own.

>it also doesn't help hes a self proclaimed socialist, and i've never seen socialism go anywhere good historically.
Check out how Denmark, Britain and Japan is doing.

>>46560077
you do know that canda has had social programs for much much longer than that? Plus you'v got like 80% of europe, which is still the richest continent in the world

>>46560088
>europe
>under the EU
>successful
>especially when alot of countries are 1-2 steps from defaulting, bar france, germany, britain and a couple other countries
mind you theres been speculation that as soon as a country leaves the EU in this state, it will lead to a domino effect of collapse that may very well lead to a serious depression over there.
the worlds not doing so hot right now.

>>46560088
Europoor here, it's more that we're sitting on the wealth amassed historically than anything achieved by the recent trends. Also overall population density.

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>>46560039
Daily reminder that Democrats are ALWAYS better presidents when it comes to economics. If you notice, the massive spike of Obama's tenure starts in Bush's... so the latter is responsible for starting the massive deficit, and the former is responsible for fixing that bullshit.

>>46559955


More than Hillary? Get real.

>>46560103
I live in the EU mate, i know, the world is not doing so hot but thats not because the EU is a stupid idea, it's because we are having a crisis after crisis over here (market crash, imigrant crisis, terrorism, war in ukrain, growing housing bubble, rise of eurosceptism). On the other hand the EU has managed to bring most shitty countries at least partly up to the level of the modern world (poland is a big example here, but the fuckers elected a stupid goverment and are facing a revolution) If we live through this, there is nothing stoping us, if we fail, than im fishing out my rifle and moving to the mountines becase im shure as hell not waiting for WW3 to just happen and get me killed.

>>46560123
>literally the biggest depression since the great depression happened towards the end of the bush presidency
>implying obama didn't ride the natural leaving of the depression train to prosperity
come on, he lucked out because the president before was a literal retard and all he had to do was hold out till his second term to look amazing because of the laws of economics while simply holding the course and not rocking the boat.

>>46560103
Just a side note, the threat of economical collapse is less about breaking of EU and more about the end of Schengen (no border checks between member states). For many countries, export and work outsourcing is what keeps economy aloft.

>>46560150
>come on, he lucked out because the president before was a literal retard and all he had to do was hold out till his second term to look amazing because of the laws of economics while simply holding the course and not rocking the boat.
If he didn't sign the Dodd-Frank Act into effect, it would have gotten worse. He should at least get credit for that, if little beyond Obamacare, otherwise.

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>>46560141
>EU has managed to bring most shitty countries at least partly up to the level of the modern world (poland is a big example here ...
Nah, the difference between East and West of Europe is still gaping. The only country of the former Eastern block that was somewhat brought to the level of West is Eastern Germany. And even that is only partial success.

As for Poles voting for extremists - it's understandable really, the concern Merkel will force immigrant quotas on them became too real.

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>>46559955

>Trump
>More corrupt than Hillary or Bernie "3 Bills" Sanders

lmfao

>>46560255
I did said partly, remember that west europe has the highest standard of living in the whole world, but poland, slovenia, hungary and cech republic all got a very big boost and managed to change things that would be imposible to do on their own. As far as poland situation, dude you dont know whats been going on inside and how much PiS (the ruling party atm.) has harmed the country when they ruled. Plus imigrants are not a big deal for us, we have a lot of both vietnamies and chechenian refugees here, nothing bad has happened, we wont have a problem with the 7k we agreed upon, our budget would allow us to take in around 800k, infrustructure allows for something around 100-200k.

>>46560279
>Didn't even Snopes this.
>http://www.snopes.com/bernie-sanders-audi-8/
Dude, the second picture isn't even an Audi, it's a Tesla.

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>>46560321
Coincidentally, I live in a country of Visegrád Group as well and I really don't see the European Union situation as optimistically as you do.

Yeah, as a country we are getting some nice money from EU funds, but significant portion of that money ends up pocketed away or in private projects, the average citizen will not see any of it. Meanwhile, being part of EU comes with lot of demands and regulations. And average citizen will have to deal with all of them.

Being part of EU benefits us primarily by opening the market and bringing business opportunity, not by EU legislative activity.

As for the immigrant situations - Vietnamese, Chechen and Ukrainians are here for works and trade, they contribute to economy and they don't start shit because they want to keep low profile.
Muslim "refugees" are whole another story, you can't compare the two.

>>46560340

>Brings up a pic I did not even reference
>Snoops says "nuh uh" and I should take this at face value

k

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/01/bernie-sanders-family-money

>>46560454
Chechens are muslims. Maybe its a matter of perspective but the EU has imprved the level of life by quait a large margine here. Beter equipment and new buildings in universetys, new roads, easier accses to imported goods, investing in agriculutre and smaler towns etc. Dont get me wrong, the situation overall is poor, poland is still a country that ignores the needs of most of it's citizens to cater to large buissnes and a lot of EU money has gone there, but life is beter with it than without it. Voting for anty EU people wont change where the money is going, it will get rid of it alltougheter. Slavland population needs to start thinking on who they are voting for and how they are representing us and our needs, and thats where the problem is.

>>46560496

>He's literally not even reading anything beyond the urls anymore

>A new report suggests that Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders and his wife have repeatedly done the most socialist thing ever: funnel thousands of campaign and nonprofit dollars toward family members and friends.

>>46560533
>can not be counter
och ok, ill just use pacifism.

>>46560465
So let me get this straight: Bernie Sanders is corrupt because he paid his wife $45/hour as a consultant (which is pretty common, and not a particularly large sum of money), and his daughter $16k a year. He's corrupt because his wife did business with other businesses ran by friends and family (which everyone does). Their daughter took the "insane sum" of $72k a year contracted to Burlington for woodworking classes (which isn't a large sum by any means). And she gave $34k a year to a friend's business for study-abroad programs.

So you're working under the assumption that politicians are obligated to never work with friends and family, nor are they capable of paying them working wages, in their entire lives regardless of occupation at the time?

And I'm suppose to take you seriously because....

>>46560557
>And I'm suppose to take you seriously because...

I mean if you're going to brush off obvious nepotism and corruption like paying your wife for "consultation" using campaign funds, I suppose we're at an impasse, as you're clearly a berniebot willing to excuse him of anything he does.

>>46560581
Not that anon but thats nothing new, Trump lent himself money from his own buissnes to run his campaing so he can pay it back to himself. I dont like it, but than we can expect politicians to be honset can we?

>>46560600
>Trump lent himself money from his own buissnes to run his campaing so he can pay it back to himself.

You're gunna have to spell out for me how it is wrong for someone to take his own money from one of his own assets to allocate it to something else. Because either you've poorly explained this, or you're an idiot.

>>46560581
>I mean if you're going to brush off obvious nepotism
Fail. Nepotism isn't hiring family. It's giving obvious bias to family members for purposes of business. Do you have proof that he never paid anyone else as much as $45/hour other than his wife? How about the $16,250 per year he paid his daughter, is that more than anyone else made?

Can you prove that there is a significant weight towards relative employees versus unrelated employees?

Because if you can't, you're just full of shit. Nepotism isn't just helping family. It's a much more severe thing than that.

By that logic, I can accuse Trump of sexually assaulting his daughter by calling her fuckable.

>corruption like paying your wife for "consultation" using campaign funds
Are you telling me he never talks to his wife, ever? That she never consulted him in his decisions on that campaign?

If she did, why doesn't she have a right to be paid as an employee? Just because she's his wife, her work is obligated to be free?

Hell, I hate campaign corruption, and I don't even see how that counts. No one else made that amount? He had no other consultants that weren't family? What's the basis of your accusation?

>I suppose we're at an impasse, as you're clearly a berniebot willing to excuse him of anything he does.
Because disagreeing with you means I'm a robot.

Fuck, you are a broken human being if you think that everyone who disagrees with you is part of the conspiracy.

>>46560621
It's wrong in the seans that he is telling everyone that he is self founding. He is not, there is a diference between "im paying for this" and "im paying for this, but i will get the money back".

>>46560642

>"He's not self-funding, he's just paying for his campaign using money from his own business that he eventually intends to recoup!"

So you're an idiot.

>>46560624

noun
1.
patronage bestowed or favoritism shown on the basis of family relationship, as in business and politics:
"She was accused of nepotism when she made her nephew an officer of the firm."

k m8 lol

>>46560661
I think he's working off the legal definition rather than some internet dictionary.

>>46552402
Industrious Aristocrat Courtier/Keeper
18+ Int/Wis/Cha
Alignment: Chaotic Good

>>46560661
>patronage bestowed or favoritism shown on the basis of family relationship, as in business and politics:
That's the problem right there. You haven't proved favoritism, only that they were given jobs. Favoritism isn't simply "you have a chance", it's "you definitely got the job because you're family, and no one else has the opportunity for a same or similar job at the same wages".

I can't fucking believe I'm explaining the concept of favoritism to a child. God, I'm getting old....

>>46560581
Yeah, that's pretty weak dude.

>>46560690

K m8 I'm sure she earned her position because of her extensive experience in consultation and not because she's his wife. Your idol is safe :^)

>>46560661
Can you read? He is not self founding if in the end all the money he is using comes from other people, thats like saying "ill treat you to dinner but only if you pay me back", you did not buy me dinner, you lent me money for dinner, there is a bloody diference.

>>46560710
>K m8 I'm sure she earned her position because of her extensive experience in consultation and not because she's his wife
Holy shit, you're dumb. Did you read anything I wrote? If she's involved in the campaign, there's nothing wrong with paying her. Your accusation hinges on three premises:

1. That his wife was not doing the job that she was being paid for.
2. Barring that, that she was being paid more for that job than any other unrelated person who held that same position (politicians have lots of consultants).
3. Barring either of those, that Bernie had NO OTHER consultants but her and other family members, and it was a position created solely for his family.

Can you prove any of these things to make your case, or are you just colossally full of shit and throwing pointless accusations out? Like I said before, I could be the sort of cowardly shitbag that does this sort of thing, and accuse Trump of raping his daughter because he says she's fuckable. But I don't believe this, and I'm not an intellectual coward like you that feels the need to make baseless statements.

Prove your point or shut up. Show us proof of actual fraud, or stop crying fraud.

>>46560711
>He is not self founding if in the end all the money he is using comes from other people

He owns the business. It is literally his money.

>>46560760
Missing the point. He's not using his own money for this campaign. He's using donor money, and claiming that its his. In reality, he ponied the cash up early, and he's pocketing anything sent to him.

This entire campaign was a business venture, not an actual run for presidency. The Trumpster goes where the money leads him.

>Liberal retards who get their political views from 'comedy' shows and facebook walk among us in /tg/
Bloody hell. I bet you people think he's a 'racist' and 'misogynist'.

>>46560760
FFS, yes it is, but it comes back to him through his "founding campaing", you know, the money people give him. Listen, you have to print a newspaper, you need money for it, i give you 100$ for printing, you than go to your bank, withdraw a 100$ and place the 100$ that i gave you in your bank. You did not pay for the newspapaer, you had no net loss, i did, if you now go around saying that you payed for it, you would be telling a lie.

>>46560051
>>46560074
>Nazis
>left wing at all
Not after the Night of Long Knives they werent

>>46560765
>He's not using his own money for this campaign. He's using donor money

You're flipflopping pretty heavily on this. First you admitted that the money is his money from his business, now you're claiming it's "donor money" and he's just *saying* it's his.

Could you please get your story straight before we continue this discussion?

>>46560779

So you're saying he's laundering money from his investors and not actually using his own money for his presidential campaign? That's a pretty weighty claim. You should substantiate it.

>>46560817
>So you're saying he's laundering money from his investors and not actually using his own money for his presidential campaign?
No. What he did was legitimate... just a dick move.

If anything, it's fraud. He claimed that he's running this whole show on his dime. He should be held accountable for that false statement. Unfortunately, we live in a country where it's legal to peddle bullshit.

>>46560815
economicly the national socialist system was similar to the bolshevik system.

>>46560817
Im not saying he is loundering, im saying he is lieing about where it came from. I dont think he has a net gain on it, he just dose not louse any money through lending himself money and then reterning the money he lent himself with donations.

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>>46560848
>>46560857

>He's not laundering
>It's his money
>But it's really not
>Because it's not really his money if he was using it for his business and he decided to not use it for his business anymore
>Even though it's his
>And he should be held accountable for spending his money how he sees fit

>>46560894
>If I jumble up words fast enough, it'll sound like they don't make sense!
Nice fucking try. He's claiming credit for funding a campaign his donors are funding. That's what's been said from the get-go. He claims that credit because he loaned the campaign money, and now it pays him donor cash as profitable gains.

>>46560894
god you are retarded, i shold have know not to talk to trumpo supporters.

>>46560919

If you're going to explain things like an absolute retard, don't complain when you're misunderstood.

>>46560914
>He's claiming credit for funding a campaign his donors are funding.

Oh, okay. Who are his donors then?

>>46556100
>I don't think the dude is as stupid as Bernbots, Hillary drones and Cruz supporters want you to believe.
He's not stupid, but it's painfully obvious that he says what he thinks people want to hear.
The thought that people will vote for him because they think he's going to follow through on what he says rather than trying to guess what he's going to do based on his personality and historical conduct saddens me.

>>46560977
>The thought that people will vote for him because they think he's going to follow through on what he says rather than trying to guess what he's going to do based on his personality and historical conduct saddens me.
That's total bullshit! He's such a stand-up guy, that he promised me a year's stay at Trump Casino with all the Trump Steaks I could eat! And all I have to do is vote for him!

>>46560927
>Who are his donors then?

Why is this question being ignored?

>>46552402
Lawful Evil Human Expert 3/Rogue 1

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>>46561011
it's not ignored, it's daft, they are the same people who give money to other politicians, randome smuchks who have some spear and want to finance his campiang. They are giving him money so he can run his campaing, not so he can pay himself back.

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>>46560533
I love how Magic tells stories through mechanics and card art.

>>46561052
>"Unfortunately, it doesn't restrain the beast's smell."

>>46561051
>they

Who are 'they'?

I want names, companies, interest groups. Or really anything that indicates that this is not something you just heard on The Daily Show and are now parroting as fact.

>>46556802
He did not meet the qualifications for the school he entered, nearly flunked out, has self-destructed every single business venture he's ever entered, cannot memorize simple political facts, geography, or context, is totally uninterested in basically every philosophy and perhaps even the very concept of shared reality, and is a juvenile, blithering idiot.

There is exactly zero evidence that he's nothing more than a moron that inherited every advantage possible beyond his own pathological lying.

And you might also be stupid too, for buying into it.

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>>46559762
I would status him like this

>>46559962
Tough question, I think a Malkavian thinking he's a Toreador who pretends to be a Brujah in a Vetrues court. Or a Tremere pretending to be a Malkavian in a Brujahs court.

>>46560019
"I doubt he'll win" based on exactly what? His wild success at the state level? His 40 year history of being elected? The metrics and projections that say he has majority support, and could beat every other candidate in the general election?

Or the conspiratorial meming of mainstream corporate news cycles?

>>46561082
Not that guy but I'm a Bernie supporter and even I think Trump can't be that much of an idiot if he managed to rally an enormous crowd of idiots behind him. In general idiots just don't get to leadership positions. I don't think he's brilliant or anything but I am absolutely sure he is not stupid. Laughably evil and anti-intellectual? Sure. Stupid? No.

>>46561099
>"I doubt he'll win" based on exactly what?

Superdelegates and basic mathematics.

>>46561108
Gee anon you mean that gap that he's slaughtering right now towards achieving the superdelegates that haven't actually voted on anything? Or do you mean the fact that he has more pledged superdelegate support at this point in the race than the last three demo POTUS at the identical time? Or the "basic mathematics" of CNN's circlejerk that couldn't do basic math?

You fucking meme addict. You've done zero research.

>>46561103
>charisma = intelligence = wisdom

??????????????????

>>46561131
>Being harsh on meme addicts, a vulnerable minority oppressed by and comprised of primarily the white man.

>>46561136
Real life doesn't work like that. You can't be charismatic in the classical sense of the word if you are a complete tool. In general anyone who is really good at anything is probably not an idiot.

>>46561079

>That deathly silence

lmfao.

>>46561154
What planet are you even on?

>>46561159
Earth.

>>46561131

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-delegate-tracker/

I know mathematics is not the strong suit of bernbots but seriously dude.

>>46561179
You're doing it again, retard. You're taking the transparently biased bullshit graph as objective truth and assuming past trends are current trends are future trends. It's just innumerate. Don't say "basic mathematics" when what you mean is "eyeballing a load of horseshit that someone else is feeding me."

>>46560977
Well when you can find someone more sincere who also talks about erecting 「THE WALL」 then let me know.

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>>46561229

>"Stats don't matter! Bernie will definitely double his delegates and get over ten times his superdelegates for sure!"
>"F-feel the bern!"

I can't even mock you people anymore. You've entered the denial phase. It's just depressing now.

It'll be okay, Anon. It'll all be okay.

>>46560686
I didn't post in a troll thread so you faggots could ignore me

FIGHT ME

>>46561256
You just read whatever you want to, don't you.

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>>46561300

It'll be okay, Anon. Just let it all out.

>>46560141
>>46560255
The gap between East and West Germany is still pretty huge. East Germany's basically only seperated from Poland by language but certainly not by mentality.

>>46560454
>As for the immigrant situations - Vietnamese, Chechen and Ukrainians are here for works and trade,
The Ukrainians are there on three-months work visas, generally. They aren't refugees the way folks from Syrian and the former US occupation zones are.

Not saying we can't deal with it, but it's not going to be pretty because our national economic systems are becoming more and more unfit to accomodate the sort of small-scale economic activites that could keep those people afloat legally.

>>46561323
Eight straight primary wins. And not just wins, but landslides. In 2008, during this period of his election, Obama was in the same exact place versus Clinton. Except he has 20 fewer pledge delegates. Remind me who won that election? Sanders is projected to win 60 to 80 percent of the next delegates up for grabs, as Clinton has extremely little appeal to the ending crop of states. These projections also indicated he'd win the eight sequential victories he's sitting on now. The actual gap between Sanders and Clinton in confirmed delegates and superdelegates is less than 10%. But apparently that lead is insurmountable? Clinton has been losing political ground while Sanders has been gaining that momentum. But apparently things like "time" are meaningless to your "basic mathematics."

You keep dragging out this graph like it's the end all and be all. Shit, nigger, it doesn't even reflect the text in that article. You are dumb as hell. You're mistaking picture books for analysis.

>>46561388
>Last updated: April 9, 2016

It'll all be alright, Anon.

Just hang in there.

>>46561154
>You can't be charismatic in the classical sense of the word if you are a complete tool.

It's perfectly possible to get by on charisma even if you're an one-trick pony. It just means that they gotta move on to the next person faster.

>>46561079
>Who are 'they'?
Watch his rallies.

See those people in the crowds?

Please tell me this question was rhetorical.

Body: 55
-distracting physique (silly hair) 50
-struggle 20
-general athletics 15

Speed: 50
-Initiative: 25
-Dodge: 15
-Drive: 20
-Golf : 30
-Firearms: 15

Mind: 55
-Doublethink 55
-General Education 30
-Make gobs of money 50 *obsession skill
-Notice 15
-Conceal 30

Soul: 100
-Avatar: the demagogue 98
-charm 40
-Lying 47

Took a crack at it in Burning Wheel.

Name: Donald Trump
Stock: Man
Age: 72
Gender: Male

Lifepaths:
1. City Born
2. Student
3. Moneylender
4. Merchant
5. Magnate
6. Magnate
7. Performer
8. Performer
9. Magnate

Will B7
Perception B6
Power B3
Forte B2
Agility B2
Speed B3

Mortal Wound B8
Reflexes B3
Health B4
Steel B5 (Lived a sheltered life, raised in a competitive culture)
Hesitation 3
Stride 7
Circles B3

Traits:
Nimble
Shrewd
Vocal
Well Dressed
Xenophobic
Affinity For Business
Colorful
Greedy
Penny-wise
Rabble-rouser
Self-satisfied

>>46561417

So you are asserting that his supporters' donation money is funding his entire campaign?

Can you please make a clear, concise accusation as to who his campaign's money belongs to and why it is not actually his own?

>>46561099
>"I doubt he'll win" based on exactly what?
The fact that he has a commanding 400-point deficit in superdelegates. Even if he closes, or surpasses the gap, that's a very hard hit to take, and one that likely beats out any lead he could reasonably manage.

Bernie might be scoring more goals, but the refs are handing the Golden Snitch to Hillary. Victory will be difficult.

>>46560123
>Daily reminder that Democrats are ALWAYS better presidents when it comes to economics.
>Daily reminder this is because you often end up with a Republican controlled Congress and Senate with a Dem president, and thus the economy improves despite the retard in the White House.

>>46561440
We get it. Trump is the second coming of Christ and has never done anything wrong. He's so good at marriage that he did it three times over. And he'll make America as profitable as Trump Casino, because he has an excellent education from Trump University.

>>46561473
>Democratic presidents ruin the economy!
>Here's proof that they don't!
>That's because presidents don't really affect the economy!

>>46561494
I never said the President ruins the economy, they obviously have an effect. But Congress is by far the bigger factor in how the economy is doing, and during each upswing, it's been controlled by Republicans. I just wish they'd stop being retards on social issues that don't matter.

>>46561494

Why are you implying I stated any of these things?

You or a guy who sounds suspiciously like you have asserted that he is not self funding. When pressed on this point, you have failed to give a singular coherent point on where this money is coming from. The closest thing to an answer I have received when asking who is funding his presidential campaign if not himself was that his... supporter's donations are funding it. All of it, I guess? Which means his self funding claim is wrong? Because obviously it would be absurd to say he's not self funding if a minority of his campaign money came from joe schmoe supporters, but I'm not getting any remotely coherent point on anything else. No articles elaborating, no names to look up money trails on, no nothing.

It's just very odd to see people parroting things feel are true as things that *are* true, is all.

>>46561494
>claim donors are funding his campaign
>can't name any
>Better point out his failed businesses... About 4 out of 101!

>>46561082
I hate Trump but if you think he's an idiot then you are a fool. He wants to be seen as more of an everyman than he is. Read his book "The Art of the Deal." He's been running the same persuasion/negotiation strategy for everything he's done since the 80's.

Also, saying that he is not a successful businessman is just straight up incorrect.

>>46560077
>implying Canada went socialist the moment Trudeau won

Canada has been socialist since at least the 1960s anon. Harper, for all his conservative values, never came close to killing the socialist pillars of the country.

Mike was alright.

>>46561542
>Failed businesses
Sure, let's talk about those.

Trump is a landlord. His primary success is always in being a landlord. Whether being landlord of a building, or a golf course, or anything else, that's what he's good at. Taking rent and keeping things running.

EVERY TIME HE HAS VENTURED FROM HIS SAFE ZONE, he has failed. Not just the first time, but every time. Trump Casino, Trump Steaks....

The only exception to this rule is perhaps Trump Winery (as he owned it for 2 years). However, HE WAS JUST THE LANDLORD FOR THE BUSINESS. His son ran the whole damn thing. All he did was invest until he sold it to the son that had been running it in the first place.

So... is his job as President going to be Landlord? If not, what part of his record says he'll be good at it?

>>46561108
Superdelegates will likely swap if/when the popular support does. They're unlikely to play against the masses.

>>46561599

>Get completely BTFO on one point
>Immediately shift full gear to an entirely new one

Lol I'm off to bed m8s, have fun with this clown

>>46561599
Yeah, he is really bad at anything outside real estate, it's not like he could launch several lines of luxury goods that are still doing good... Wait, yeah, he did.

Ok, so he's got real estate and his line of goods, but it's not like he's a successful author or anything... Wait, wrong again.

Well, even with that, it's not like he could start running for political office and have his campaign out-do seasoned politicians... Oh, nevermind.

But you're right anon, other than these, every time he branches out he fails.

>>46561616
>Superdelegates will likely swap if/when the popular support does. They're unlikely to play against the masses.
Unfortunately, several have already buckled down. One politician had a funny twitter discussion about how he didn't want to change his vote, despite his state voting against him.

Alright
poo-in-loo lander here
Whats a superdelegate and why do burger elections sound so confusing?

>>46561640
A superdelegate is a Democratic party member that is appointed by the party to vote for whoever they want for their party's nominee. They're not bound by any state election results or anything like that. Each state also has slightly different rules about their respective party's primary, so it's quite confusing in that regard.

We're also not even at the election yet, it's just the party's selecting their nominees to be in the election.

>It's a /tg/ is a proud SJW cuck board thread

>>46561673
so its basically an internal party mechanism to choose a particular leader?
oh cool.

>>46561686
Superdelegates? Yeah. In theory it's so the masses of the party don't try to nominate someone completely unelectable in the general election, like Sanders.

>>46561694
does your republican party have the same system?
>>46561674
what is that supposed to mean?

>>46561628
>Yeah, he is really bad at anything outside real estate, it's not like he could launch several lines of luxury goods that are still doing good... Wait, yeah, he did.
No, he didn't. They're mostly foreign businesses that he dumps capital on. He rarely gets involved.

Except in the case of Trump Steaks and Trump Casino. He had a personal hand in both, and that's why they succeeded with flying colors.

>Ok, so he's got real estate and his line of goods, but it's not like he's a successful author or anything... Wait, wrong again.
Kanye West is also a successful author. Think about that.

More importantly, if he's so successful, why did Trump Magazine flop?

>Well, even with that, it's not like he could start running for political office and have his campaign out-do seasoned politicians... Oh, nevermind.
You really want to paint the rest of those Republican clowns as "seasoned"?

Next you'll tell me that Uwe Boll is an accomplished professional boxer because of that stunt with the reporters.

>>46561707
It does have delegates that are "unbound"or uncommitted, but not quite in the same number and it differs state to state. For example, I'm in Pennsylvania and the Republican delegates work like this:
>71 total
>17 go to whoever wins the state
>the remaining 54 directly elected by Republican voters, 3 per district
>they are " officially" uncommitted, but many claim they're vote for whoever their district voted for, others say they'll go with the state, and still others have specific candidates they'll support

Pennsylvania is an outlier though. Only one other state does it this way.

>>46561748
Ok, so the political apparatus varies from state to state right? And at the end of the day theoretically has no effect on what candidate the end voter votes for.
Did I get any of this wrong?

>>46561761
>Ok, so the political apparatus varies from state to state right? And at the end of the day theoretically has no effect on what candidate the end voter votes for.
Correct to the first, not so much in the second. The nomination and electoral processes usually go with the voting tendencies of the masses, but not necessarily. Moreover, if the convention becomes contested, all primary votes are essentially thrown out and the voters shift around until there is only one winner. To that end, Bush v Gore is a perfect example of how the populace and the apparatus don't necessarily fall in sync; Gore won the popular vote, but lost the election.

>>46561735
>No, he didn't. They're mostly foreign businesses that he dumps capital on. He rarely gets involved.
>Except in the case of Trump Steaks and Trump Casino. He had a personal hand in both, and that's why they succeeded with flying colors.
>no he wasn't involved in the successful ventures because i say so, but he was invoked with the unsuccessful ones because i say so

>Kanye West is also a successful author. Think about that.
And Trump was a successful author before Kanye existed in the public eye in anyway, but whatever, you're not actually making an argument.
>More importantly, if he's so successful, why did Trump Magazine flop?
Magazines are risky ventures.

>You really want to paint the rest of those Republican clowns as "seasoned"?
As much as I hate Jeb Bush and John Kasich, how can you not call them seasoned?

How about Rand Paul? Lindsey Graham? Do they not qualify as seasoned?

Listen, I get it, huffpo said Trump is evil and you're scared, but maybe do some independent thought?

>>46561779
Ok my anonymous american, you seem to know a lot about how this works so can you explain what the entire bush v gore thing was about?

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>>46561735

>You really want to paint the rest of those Republican clowns as "seasoned"?

What you mean Ted "I want the priest to molest me" Cruz isn't a well-liked seasoned politician?

>>46552402
He has the same stats as Benito Mussolini plain and simple

>>46561812
You could call him seasoned, somewhat. At least more than Trump.

Well-liked is certainly a stretch, but I never said anything about being liked.

>>46561411
Super delegates have always gone with the pledged delegate vote, it would be making history if they didn't majority change their vote to sanders if he overtook Hillary in pledged delegates (of which the last few states on the list are pretty massive bundles of delegates compared to the 20 or so of some states, like hundreds in fact. It's not quite a coin toss for Sanders yet but to say he has no chance of nomination is a forced meme at this point

>>46561844

I was being sarcastic, the man has one of the most punchable faces I've ever seen.

>>46561785
>As much as I hate Jeb Bush and John Kasich, how can you not call them seasoned?
He didn't beat Jeb. Jeb dropped out when he became poison. He's playing a multiplayer game, not everything that happens to every other candidate is on him.

Do you think John Kasich would really do better if Trump weren't there?

The only candidates actually beaten by Trump are Cruz and Marco.

>How about Rand Paul? Lindsey Graham? Do they not qualify as seasoned?
Again, these guys were pushed out of the competition before Trump even gained any real momentum. Might as well add any random bar fight to Mike Tyson's boxing record while you're at it.

>>46561795
>Ok my anonymous american, you seem to know a lot about how this works so can you explain what the entire bush v gore thing was about?
The electoral votes in most states are not distributed proportionally, like the primary votes are, but winner-takes-all. That means if you win New York by 51%, you get 100% of NY's votes.

In the states where Gore won, he won by large margins, in the states where he lost, he lost by small margins, and his loss was sealed by the events that happened in Florida, which may or may not have been a machination of the Bush family depending on how tinfoil you're willing to dip into the conspiracy pool (albeit this conspiracy has better evidence than others).

>>46561864
>Super delegates have always gone with the pledged delegate vote,
Superdelegates didn't exist before 1982. So there have only been 9 elections with them in place (this one included).

>>46561987
oh neat.

>>46561987
>He didn't beat Jeb. Jeb dropped out when he became poison. He's playing a multiplayer game, not everything that happens to every other candidate is on him.
>Do you think John Kasich would really do better if Trump weren't there?
>The only candidates actually beaten by Trump are Cruz and Marco.
>Again, these guys were pushed out of the competition before Trump even gained any real momentum. Might as well add any random bar fight to Mike Tyson's boxing record while you're at it.
>Trump being the frontrunner, winning nearly every state, and doing better than every other candidate has nothing to do with him because I said so!
Do me a favor and read that back to yourself. Do you not see the desperation? The grasping? Come on.

>>46561978
Right?

>>46562034
>Do me a favor and read that back to yourself. Do you not see the desperation? The grasping? Come on.
At no point did I say that Trump isn't winning. I said that his victory isn't solely on him. He's not some Golden child of politics, he's an extremely charismatic salesman who is beating his opponents in salesmanship.

Jesus fucking Christ, can you pull your head out of his ass for one second so you can tell that his shit smell isn't the only thing in existence?

>>46559899
> What trumpets actually believe.

>>46562055
>I said that his victory isn't solely on him.
You claimed his victory had nothing to do with him, which is objectively false.

I also love that you've ran out of arguments, so now it's on to ad hominem!

>>46561795
Gore won the overall popular vote but lost the electoral college vote (meaning that overall, he won the states he won by a larger margin, but winning a state by a larger margin doesn't somehow give you more than all of your state's electoral college votes, which is what you get if you win the vote in that state by any margin at all). Florida was the tipping point. The vote was very, very, very close there (the final count was 2,912,790 to 2,912,253, a difference of less than two hundredths of a percent) and Gore would've won if Ralph Nader hadn't been on the ballot and gotten 1.6% of the vote (a decent bit more of which would've gone to Gore than Bush), or the Supreme, voting along party lines (of who nominated them), hadn't halted the recount in Florida.

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Bernie Sanders is literally a Communist Jew.
Hilary Clinton is a Jew funded and vile piece of filth who can't even please the depraved Jew controlled Bill Clinton who can't keep his pecker in his pants.
Trump is funded by his own capital. He has been bank rioted before, who ever got him out of that situation may control him, but he is the best man out of a shut situation.

Kill the pig system. Kill Z.O.G.

>>46562154
America used electronic systems then right?
My country started using an electronic voting system because the paperwork was too much and transporting mountains of paperwork to remote places is hard.

>>46562149
>You claimed his victory had nothing to do with him, which is objectively false.
I explicitly said that he himself is beating Cruz, and that he beat Rubio. Good ignoring that, though.

I said he isn't entirely to blame for everything that happened in this primary. Good or bad. He isn't responsible for beating some of the early contenders, and he's also not entirely to blame for the rhetoric of the Republican primary either.

Anything more you read out of that is just you pulling things out of your (or should I say his) ass.

>>46562170
>Z.O.G
Zionist Original Gangstas?

>>46562179
It's a state-by-state thing. States choose how to do things. But yeah, electronic voting did become more popular as a result.

>>46562154
>or the Supreme, voting along party lines
The US Supreme Court, obviously.

>>46562197
ok, another tangential question. Does the US have something like an election body that makes sure that the votes are done according to a certain standard?

In India the decision to switch over to electronic voting machines was done by the Election commission, whose job it is to actually conduct the elections themselves.

>>46562194
>He isn't responsible for beating some of the early contenders
If you think he had nothing to do with it, at least Bush, you are an idiot. Full stop. This was Bush's nomination to lose, he was projected to win easily. I think with Trump, Bush would at least still be in, though Cruz might have ended up the frontrunner in his place. All of this is conjecture though.

And my head isn't up his ass, I'm just getting tired of the same tired arguments that are incorrect. Of people just parroting what huffpo or Reddit says.

He's not my first choice either, but between him, the socialist, the religions fanatic, and the criminal, he's the best choice.

>>46562277
>I think with Trump, Bush would at least still be in, though Cruz might have ended up the frontrunner in his place.
I meant without.

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>>46552402
Donald "The Centipede" Trump
Str: 7
Agi: 7
End: 10
Het: 6
Wip: 8
Wit: 10
Int: 4
Per: 6
…
Adr: 8
Tou: 6
Car: 20
Mob: 12
Cha: 12
…
Proficiency
Noble School, Polearm 20, Spear 20, 1H Sword 20, 2H Sword 20, 1H Blunt 20
…
Talents
Helm Splitter, Impaler, Kebab Master, Ironwall, Spartan Sole, Juggernaut, Stern
...
Skill
Athletics 6, Leadership 10, Persuasion 15, Tactics 6, Strategy 1, Subterfuge 6, Ride 5, Craft (Whittling) 4, Knowledge: History 4, Profession: Business 10
…
Boons
Beautiful (Major), Tireless Lobster
…
Banes
Hothead
…
Equipment
Plate Armor (wt 12.5)
Red Skullcap (wt 1)
America (Orichalcum Greatsword)
Knife
…
CP: 28

>>46561640
>Whats a superdelegate and why do burger elections sound so confusing?

Basically the Founding Fathers felt that the President should be ultimately elected by people with connections to both their regime and their social group rather than the unwashed masses, so each state has a number of Super Delegates whose votes ultimately decides who gets the post.

Formally, those should cast their vote in line with whatever legislation their state says they should, but in theory they're supposed to make sure that the plebs are 100% unable to vote a popular dictator who'd overthrow the system into power.

>>46562350
>I don't know the difference between party primary elections and the general election with the electoral college: The Post

>>46562350
No.
The Superdelegates were a Democrat invention after Reagan blew them the fuck out 40 years ago.

The Superdelegate system only exists in the Democratic Party, wherein senior party leaders hold actual delegate power in the primary elections, and it exists to keep "unelectable" candidates from rising to power in that party.

The Republicans don't have any such system. Something that they are now absolutely assfractured about, because Trump is literally destroying their party one state at a time. Basically, if Bernie Sanders reaches the "winning" total of delegates, the Democratic superdelegates could still tell him to go fuck himself, but the Republicans have no such option. The rules of their nomination have no ambiguity, unless it goes to convention (someone gets fewer than 1237 delegates) they MUST give the winner the nomination.

>>46562277
>This was Bush's nomination to lose, he was projected to win easily
Now I know you're full of shit. Jeb was seen as weak, and every other candidate tore apart his brother's presidency. He might have had a chance before the primaries, but it was a matter of time before he got taken out.

The only reason you think Trump is responsible is because he got the Florida vote. But Jeb was done before Florida even came around.

The beauty of Trump's campaign is that he really didn't need to attack his opponents early on. Only after they started trying to smear him did he really have to dig his heels in, and by that time it was already a four-man show.

>He's not my first choice either, but between him, the socialist, the religions fanatic, and the criminal, he's the best choice.
I'd prefer the socialist. He's naive, but I'm less bothered by my money being wasted to feed the poor than I am by that money being wasted on a border wall.

But at least we both agree that Hillary and Cruz would be terrible, right?

>>46562490
>The only reason you think Trump is responsible is because he got the Florida vote.
Uh, no. He killed Bushcway before that.

>But at least we both agree that Hillary and Cruz would be terrible, right?
Oh, no question. Though if he is the nominee, I might have to vote for him, only because of the Supreme Court though. Really wish Scalia could have held on for like 5 more years.

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>>46562490
>and every other candidate tore apart his brother's presidency.
Literally the only candidate to do that was Trump.

>>46562427
wat....no seriously wat? WTF are you talking about?

>>46562427
You fucks really need to get your heads out or your asses. When developers and writers get criticised for making a shitty product, they hide behind the shield of Social Justice. It doesn't matter if YOU criticised it for having shallow characters, if anon#1839 said that the faggots in the game piss him off, you're a homophobe by association. It's just a cheap trick they use to half ass their products.

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>real-life politics
>>>/tg/

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>>46558995
His hair baffles me, or rather the controversy around it.

if I'm a liberal and want 3 inch gauges and rainbow hair with neon blue highlights like a jet set radio future character and a Chinese tattoo on my cheek, it's "fine" because it's "my choice".


But the second a man gets a toupee or has dyed hair everyone loses their minds

>>46562938
well we arn't going to use /pol/ for that are we now? That place is shit.

>voting for Bernie "I want the Wall Street arrested, even though I have no concrete suspects nor do I know what crime they should be arrested for" Sanders

>>46563077
>voting for Donald "I've never run a successful business in my life nor do I have any political experience but I hate spics and you're all dumb enough to vote for me because of that" Drumpf

>>46563044
Everything progressives whine about is projection. Every flaw they try to point out in someone else can easily be applied to them.

>>46563156
>Everything conservatives whine about is projection. Every flaw they try to point out in someone else can easily be applied to them.
See how true it is on both sides of the aisle?

>>46563156
Everything conservatives whine about is projection. Every flaw they try to point out in someone else can easily be applied to them.

>>46563173
>>46563174
It probably is. I never said I held the conservatives in higher esteem.

>>46563044
The difference between a hairdo like you're describing, and Trump's, is that said liberal wouldn't try to pass it off as all-natural.

>>46563044
It's just another way to make fun of him.
Most likely they would do the same for all the others candidates, both republicans and democrats, it's just that no other candidate has as much exposition in the media

But I'm from the country where the premier had an hair transplant so he met Tony Blair while wearing a bandana, so what do I know?

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>>46560141
M8, we need a big war in Europe.
That is the only way we can get rid of all the muslims and other third world shitskins at this point, because at this rate, the actual native europeans will be a fucking minority in Europe in 100 years.
Non native men already outnumber native men in the under 30 age groups in Sweden and Germany. The shit is only gonna get worse unless we start removing Kebab right the fuck now.

>>46563280
You do know that birth rates of muslims are droping right? From over 2.5 they are allredy at something like 2.1 and still falling while whites are at 1.8 and rising. The "musilm invasion" is a meme at this point.

>>46563312
lol, how do you even measure the birthrates of a religion that is spread throughout a shit load of geographical area in asia?

>>46563199
>It probably is. I never said I held the conservatives in higher esteem.
The entire American system is a shitbasket. Both parties have only their own interests at heart. Both of them voted in the PATRIOT Act, both of them expanded the powers of the NSA, and both of them want to destroy the 1st Amendment (conservatives say they don't, but their "triggers" are flag burnings and "Happy Holidays").

Being in the American political system is like being forced to choose which testicle or ovary you want to sacrifice. You're led to believe it was a choice, but eventually you realize that if you actually had a choice, you wouldn't have made either one.

>>46560768

He hurt people's feelings, therefore he's evil >:(

>>46563044
It is strange, except when you realize a few things
1 the man is immune to the negative effects of controversy
2 the don realizes this
3 Controversy gets his name in the news for free
4 lots of people, specifically low info voters, who ARE the voter base, vote on what benefits them and name recognition
5 populists are always winners if they live to finish
The man has turned the media into janitors, they do it for free

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>>46563312
Source?
And even if they are dropping, they are still keeping their disgusting, stone age, barbaric religion and culture with them, and it has no fucking place in europe.

In any case, I don't give two shits if the mudshits have 1 less babby than their ancestors did.
Even a single fucking mudslime is too many.
I want them all GONE from my homeland.

>>46563312
Don't you know, anon? Every Muslim is a terrorist by nature and when they will be roughly 30 years old half of them will go full kamikaze each killing at least a hundred true European. That's the way they'll conquer Europe

This is actually an argument that I've found multiple time, I'm not kidding you

>>46563280
I'd be less concerned with "muh ebil rayce mixun" and more concerned with just forcing your countries to treat immigrants and Muslims in general as equals instead of giving them legal preference and lesser punishments.

>>46563383
Look at the population trends of the countries that have most muslims. They are all trending downwards as their countries improve

>>46563405
The only treatment those subhuman barbarians deserve is bullet to the head.

>>46563432
thanks hitler.

>>46563405
Since they're immigrants, they are less familiar with the laws. If the legal system incarcerates too many of them, the courts and police will appear racist. What would you do if you were a judge?

>>46563441
Hitler did nothing wrong, and Europe would be a better place had he won.
Shit like the Paris and Brussels attacks would not have happened, globalist cabals of wealthy elites wouldn't be trying to destroy national soveriginities for profit, and women wouldn't have to fear to walk outside at night due to the danger of some shitskins trying to rape them.

>>46563492
>the courts and police will appear racist
Who fucking cares, other than some bleeding heart liberal retards?

>>46563495
>beaing this edgy

>>46563495
Nice conjecture faggot.

>>46559865
Dude at least has a 5+ save due to his bullet proof vest and we know he has at least one attack since he carries a gun.

>>46563365
I couldn't agree more, it's the reason people are willing to vote for Bernie or Trump even if their policies seem ridiculous.
>>46563432
That kind of sentiment won't gain you very much traction, even if you really believe it.
>>46563492
I would do my job, and sentence people based solely on the crime they committed, after all being a judge is not supposed to be a popularity contest. If asked I would explain exactly that, to give people lesser or greater punishments simply based on their race would in and of itself be textbook racism, and anyone who thinks that its OK to sentence a Muslim immigrant to less punishment than a normal nonmuslim citizen is racist.

>>46563495
No you retarded whiteboi, your precious idol toppled europe from it's place at the top of the world to where it currently is. He turned the mother Yuropa best civilization into the 'degeneracy' you so hate. He is the reason why that happened. Now go kill yourself violently so that you can wake up in Valhalla.

>>46563492
>What would you do if you were a judge?
Uphold the fucking law because it's my job? Ignorance of the law is no excuse. If they want to live in my country they'll play by my rules or suffer the consequences. If they don't like it they can go back to where they fucking came from.

>>46563544
>That kind of sentiment won't gain you very much traction, even if you really believe it.

Oh, you severely underestimate the hatred my average kinfolk feel for these shitskins.

>>46563541
>Trump has the same number of attacks of a 10'000 years old CSM

When will GW stop shitting on us?

Alright my angry european.
What If I immigrate to europe as a skilled laborer?

>>46563555
You do know, that WW 2 was wholly escalated by the allies, who refused all ceasefire and offers of peace Germany sent. Poland was a sacrifical lamb for Britain & France, who actively encouraged Polish leaders to fuck with the German minorities living in their lands, via a phony guarantee of aiding Poland should Germany attack, despite being wholly aware of the fact that they would be unable to stop such an attack.

Britain and France wanted the war, far more than Germany did. Like WW1, WW2 was ultimately just about keeping German power down.

>>46563395
It just sounds like you're strawmanning real hard.

>>46563645
If you are not a mudslime, I got no problem with you.
Muslims have been the enemies of Europe for over a thousand fucking years, and they evidently still are, but only this time, our leaders are too weak, and our people by large, too complacent and blind to see the threat until it is too late.
Demographic replacement (which is what the situation in Europe is gonna be like unless something drastic is done soon), is fucking genocide even according to the friggin UN.

I want my grandchildren to have a homeland that is truly theirs, inhabited by their kinfolk, not some "boiling pot" shithole like US where the only thing that the different groups of mongrels and ethnicities share is that they all recognize Mickey Mouse and McDonalds.

>>46563646
This is bait, right? I'm being baited, right?

Who is still able, in 2016, to say that the reason the allies weren't able to fuck Hitler in the ass immediately is because they let him annexing a ton of important areas before the beginning of WW2 because they were too afraid to actually start it?

>>46563646
Who the fuck is your history teacher? Fucking gobels? Britan and France wanted nothing to do with this, this is why the did not start fighting before it was too late for frogfags. Hitler attacked poland because they would not give in to his ridiculus demands, and even if they had, he still would of done it. The third reich needed the war, it was the onyl way they could stay in power (if hiter did not start fighting for labensraum the commies would have staged a coup and had the support of the people) and because hsi whole economical "miricle" was done on credit, if he did not start a war and aquaier additional pylons the reich would revert to 1920s situation and the people would revolt.

>>46563646
>via a phony guarantee of aiding Poland should Germany attack, despite being wholly aware of the fact that they would be unable to stop such an attack.
yes, that is exactly how alliances are supposed to work. The germans threw treaty after treaty they signed into the fire when they got what they wanted.
>muh poor german minorities
And the post war treatment of them was far harsher because of a result of what hitler did.

>peace treaty
The nazi regime was given enough chances of peace but declaring war on poland went a step too far. Hitler reaped the whirlwind and indirectly got europe to the state where it is today.

>>46563740
>If you are not a mudslime, I got no problem with you.
>Muslims have been the enemies of Europe for over a thousand fucking years, and they evidently still are, but only this time, our leaders are too weak, and our people by large, too complacent and blind to see the threat until it is too late.
Ah yes, I too remember the times when the ottomans and the french were allies, or the venetians and other italian city states became european powers on the basis of trade with DA MOOSELIMBS

>Nobody has mentioned the Rotherham rape scandal

"Asian" gangs would groom underage girls and sexually abuse them. The cops did nothing because they didn't want to "be seen as racists".

Political correctness and the fear of being seen as islamophobic is literally allowing them to break the law.

>>46563808
Anon, be quiet

We have always been at war with Eastasia, everyone knows it

>>46563823
Yes and the british public cheered on the cops for being so progressive

Oh wait, they tore them to shreds for not doing their duty.

>>46553449
have you ever seen a lottery winner turn 1,000,000 into 10 billion?

>>46563808
And even during those times, mudslimes still preyed upon european traders, Christians had to pay a tax due to their faith in regions that were controlled by Mudslimes.
Muslim faith, and culture, has been largely at odds with Europe way before the crusades, and it still is.

>>46563839
You don't see parallels with what's going on in Germany? Sweden? Don't you think that many on the left in the US are also afraid of being seen as islamophobic for just acknowledging that there seems to be a correlation between unchecked Muslim migration and rising violent and sexual crime rates?

>>46563851
Yes, its not like Moorish spain was not one of the best cities in europe, or the fact that despite the Jizya, their overall taxes were initially lower which allowed the moors to have a far more happier populace.

>they preyed upon european traders
Yes because that is what pirates and bandits do. It would be like saying the Illyrians and the romans were mortal enemies because they preyed on their traders

>before the crusade

And that resulted in christians in egypt largely being converted to islam because franks are fucking retarded.
The Emperor and the Rulers of Jerusalem were nominal allies at the time.

>>46563838
but the chinese have submissive women and cute cartoons.

>>46563911
>being ruled by Mudslimes
>happy populace
Top kek.

The only good mudslime is a dead one.
I hope they do some more terror attacks in big cities (thus increasing the chances of killing retarded, mudslime advocating libshits like you), so that Europeans will finally snap and proceed to remove them all.

>>46563838
I dont think you have read the news latley, big broter said it was always oceania, do i need to report you to the thought police?

>>46563851
>mudslime criminals still preyed upon european traders
FTFY, but that's true about criminals of all ethnicities.

>>46563890
To be fair a lot of the pakis had social support from other pakis that had already immigrated to the UK a while back and were British citizens.

Are you telling me that the swedish or german government is condoning rape of their own citizens by refugees?

>>46563967
Sweden had a huge scandal recently about how the media and police were actively hiding incidents where immigrant men had raped Swedish girls.
The whole Cologne incident was also filled with media and government trying to hush the situation.

>>46563945
Yes, its not like the andulusians invited the muslims themselves and gave them enough ships to cross the river, and the germanic rulers were running a shitty show.

But hey, who cares about the nuances of history when your own nation's starts less than three centuries ago.

>>46563991
I see. So it is possible without being racist to deport the fuckers fucking about.

>>46563945
This really reminds me of Italy's Years of Lead, when right-winged extremist would make enormous massacres for that kind of purpose while left-winged extremists would kidnap and kill important political people

>>46563967
>To be fair a lot of the pakis had social support from other pakis that had already immigrated to the UK a while back and were British citizens.

This would lead to the conclusion that the problem are the pakistani inmigrants, even if they're British citizens

>Are you telling me that the swedish or german government is condoning rape of their own citizens by refugees?

My good friend, they're almost doing that. Here, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdSsJQ-fvOU

>>46564049
well for you european's sake I do hope that guy gets fired or loses his next election. You can take in people and arrest the ones chimping out. It doesn't have to be one of two extremes, either being
>refugees fuck my daughters
or
>die in a boat in the mediterranean.

>>46563994
M8, my people have been ruled by foreign fuckers for nearly all of our written history, first by the Swedes for hundreds of years, and then by Russians. We were slaves and peasants to foreign aristocrats for longer than there was a single fucking european colony in either Africa of the New World.
The damn Swedes and Ruskies both tried to destroy and erase as much of our culture, and traditions as they could, and it is a small miracle that we know of those things at all at this point.

Don't try to tell me how "good" it is to live under the rule of culturally foreign people. My people were a hair's with away from being fucking erased out of existence by foreign rulers, who saw us as nothing more than peasants to tax, and I am grateful for my ancestors for the sacrifices they did in their time, to ensure our current freedom.
I'll be damned before I accept the influx of violent foreigners here, whose values are directly opposite of ours and who don't even hide their contempt for us.
The leftist, and bleeding heart faggots who advocate for them coming here, are all traitors in my eyes, and if push comes to shove, I'll be more than happy to kill them along with their mudslime pets.

>>46564138
Pardon my ignorance, but which country is that?

>>46564138
sure, I agree if the refugees get violent or demand too much you are well within your rights to kick them out.

It doesn't mean that they are out to get you by purpose or that someone is planning a grand invasion of europe.

>>46564167
finland probably.

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>>46564167
Funland.

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>>46564138
>braing this brainwashed
Im not saying the refugees are good, but good damn are you underinformed about what is going on and the real threat. You best dull your edge or else someone might think you really mean what you are saying and are not just a trolling faggit.

>>46563280
you know mooselimbs have the same attitude
Everything is gonna be perfect if the country is more islamic
Then they fuck their shit up

>>46564171
It's already too late to kick them out when they get violent or start making demands because it means they're a well-settled significant majority and a player in the political scene. How are you going to deport people with your country's citizenship? You're stuck with them, whether you like it or not.

>>46563967
>Are you telling me that the swedish or german government is condoning rape of their own citizens by refugees?
They most certainly are not. However, they are completely impotent to do anything to prevent it either. They do their thing where police presence is either nonexistent or they outnumber the cops 10 to 1, and investigating the shit afterwards doesn't get any results because the culprits have no identification and there's virtually nothing that can be done to them. Even if the police tracks them down, which is virtually impossible in first place, there is nothing that can be done that would be a punishment to them. They claim to be protected because they come from "unsafe" countries so they can't even be deported until the bureaucracy is capable of processing their legal defence measures. And after all this, if they finally manage to get deported instead of falling through the cracks into obscurity of some slummy suburbs along with rest of the nameless mass, they will simply hop on another boat and come again, repeating the whole process.

>>46564291
Don't give them citizenship in the first place?

>>46564308
And how do you plan to do that when they meet your country's legal requirements?

>>46564262
The refugees are a very real threat. They are the tool of the Globalist shills, who seek to weaken soveriginities of nations by destroying their internal homogeneity.
Of course, it is the globalists who are the BIG threat, which is why I hope that EU will fall, so that they will lose another of their tools for controlling sovereign nations.
Anyone who advocates for more globalism, open borders, etc crap, is an enemy to me, and my people.

>>46552402
Get the fuck off my board and take this shit to /pol/, I'm tired of this Drumpf shit posting.

>>46564325
I am sure bureaucratic hurdles can be thrown or standards changed easily.

>>46564308
How do you not give citizenship to someone who is born here? That guy is talking about next gen immigrants, not about people fresh off the boats who are not gonna be getting citizenships for years, if at all. Still, even as someone who asks for asylum, or an outright illegal, it's not easy to get rid of them, mostly because countries you'd kick them out of simply won't accept them.
Right now a big hope touted as great victory of EU diplomacy is a deal with Turkey, and that deal is already getting criticized from all sides - as being inhumane to the migrants, as giving too big concessions to Turkey (visa-free travel) etc.

>>46564325
>meet your country's legal requirements?
I may really die from laughing from this idea
In my country children born from immigrants literally need to spend the first 18 years of their life in the country, without ever leaving, to even think of getting the citizenship
We have a ton of people that maybe are here from the '80s and have yet to reach the requirements to ask for it
Yet one of the most important political parties spend most of its time saying what you are writing

>>46564364
>How do you not give citizenship to someone who is born here?
In a sane world, by having your actual roots in that country, not just having your parents move there, and shit you out.
But unfortunately, we live in a mad, mad world, and any shitskin can claim to be French, German, Swede, Finn etc, just because their mommy happened to plop him/her in that country.

Thankfully people here where I live are still racist enough to see trough that. No shitskin will ever be a Finn in our eyes, no matter how fucking long they have lived here.

>>46564348
It's not that easy because then you're changing standards for everyone or facing inequality charges. It's also often a constitutional matter and those require significant political power to pass.
Besides that's a moot point since you can't practice mass expulsions even of non-citizens as per the ECoHR and other international laws.

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>>46561256
It's almost as bad as /pol/ was last time 'round.

>>46564387
So? You think that toddler will be going anywhere? He's here to say for the 18 years. It's the second gen immigrants that are the major problem.

>>46564335
It's not the globalist who are the threat you thick bastard, its the corporations, the profit. The only reason this war is still going on is because there is profit in them. Nationalistic countries have no chance of survival, deal with it, the world has changed, best you change with it, but you can do something about the barbarisation of the people, and that is abolishing or controlling fucking multi-national corporations.

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>>46564404
I disagree with your collectivist judgment of entire chunks of populace, but I'd like the country I live in to be actually capable of enforcing its own laws on its territory and not letting people who have nothing but contempt for them to get away with it.

>>46564448
Maybe you missed the part about "even thinking about getting the citizenship"
So time ago there was a shitstorm here because a third generation immigrant was able to receive the citizenship, and people couldn't deal with the idea of a "nigger" having their same nationality
And he really was only able to receive it because he's really good at football and having a good player in the national team is considered more important then everything else in my country, just as Churchill said

>>46564453
Giant corporations are globalists by the nature of their being, you daft fucker.
The corporations are just one of the tools of the globalist cabal. Many non profit organizations are also driving the globalist cause. It isn't as simple as just "da ebil corporations!"

>Nationalistic countries have no chance of survival

Based on what?
Nationalism, is the biggest fuck you to globalists, because it denies them their power to operate anywhere, anyway they wish, as Nationalistic countries will put the benefit of their nation, and people first, instead of profits.

The destruction of nationalism is what Globalists pursue, because nations that lack a strong national and cultural identity, are easy to subvert, and influence, as the people living in those nations care more for their personal gain, than for the wellbeing of their kinfolk and nation.

>>46562338
If Drumpf was a reincarnation of Patton I don't think he would have draft dodged as hard as he did. Bone spurs my ass.

>>46564541
Based on the fact that the world dose not operate on nationalisctic bases. Trade, Science, Art, entertaiment. All of them requier globalization in one way or a nother. You would not see the LHC if not for globalization, you would not have some of the greatest artistic minds working tougheter if not for globalization etc. etc.

>>46564541
>I want a way to legitimize my racism, but it needs to have an enemy to use it against...
>I know, I'll call it "nationalism", and I'll use it to fight "globalism". Genius!
I miss the days when the culture-fighting racists were just pointy-hooded retards standing in the forest talking about how evil niggers are.

At some point, people will realize that the enemy has always been corrupt assholes, and that these assholes have been long using discrimination as a tool to mislead the public into fighting smaller non-problems.

>Hey Achmed, how do we get the Americans to have a harder time killing off our soldiers?
>Let's bait the dumbasses into hating all Muslims, so they're distracted by every brown face they see while we use the opportunity to blow shit up.
>k bro

Good job doing ISIS' job for them, faggot.

>>46564541
There should be only one nation. The Human nation.
Why should I feel kinship with someone I share no direct relation with except for arbitrary political label?
Why should I not feel kinship with someone I share blood with, just because some arbitrary political label separates us?

Nation is a meaningless distinction that serves only those who would control it. The true divisions stem from culture and tradition.

>>46564586
That's not the problem with that theory. If Patton really believed in reincarnation than he couldn't have been a real Christian, and you can't be a real American without being a real Christian

That only shows that Trump >>>>>> Patton

USA USA USA USA USA USA

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>>46564626
Trump is the only candidate who actually wants to do something about a 1.6 billion strong enemy who reads books that literally instruct them to invade and destroy our society. He's got my vote. If you disagree with this, you really need to read aforementioned books, because you clearly have not.

>>46552402
+15 bonus to triggering fags

>>46564626
>There should be only one nation. The Human nation.
Amen.

Our enemy is criminals. Doesn't matter the economic status. Doesn't matter the occupation. Criminals that warp our laws, pervert our systems and capitalize on their corruptions need to be wiped out, so the rest of us can live in peace.

>>46564661
>If you disagree with this, you really need to read aforementioned books, because you clearly have not.
I know I have, and my favorite part is when they say that they must destroy the gray area that allows western Muslims to avoid the fight. They want the west to hate them, so that they join up.

Again, thanks for helping ISIS, fucknut.

>>46564619
You can have trade, science, and art, without the rampant, nation and culture destroying globalism that is being pushed down to Europe.
You won't have anything like LHC etc in a 100 years if this shit continues on it's current course, as the various european nations responsible for LHC, have been reduced to mudslime filled shitholes with few remaining, actual native europeans, living in gated enclaves.

>>46564623
My racism is entirely fucking legimate even without the globalist threat. Finland is the land for Finns, not some random shitskins, and I will never accept them as my kin or members of my nation. There is only one homeland for my people, and I have sworn the oath to be ready to kill in order to defend it. My grandfather did not fight against the ruskies and nazis just so that some achmeds from pakistan can come live here and leech of the society my people built for us and our children.

Fuck off with your murrican racial bs. Finland is not some melting pot of cultures. It is the land for Finns, and I'll be damned before I accept it's, and my people's destruction at the hands of the globalists, and the shitskins.

>>46564626
Fuck right off m8.

>>46564623
>>Hey Achmed, how do we get the Americans to have a harder time killing off our soldiers?
>>Let's bait the dumbasses into hating all Muslims, so they're distracted by every brown face they see while we use the opportunity to blow shit up.
>>k bro

Well there's more to it. Infighting is also good to create new potential recruits
>see how they hate you? They hate you because they are degenerate immoral pigs. Come join the jihad!

And of course any internal conflict is good, and not just for daesh but for other geopolitical rivals of afflicted nations as well.

>>46564725
Mcfucking kill yourself, retard.

Eat a goddamn bullet, and save the rest of us the trouble.

>>46563133
>"I've never run a successful business in my life
Except almost all of them.

>>46564725
>you can have trade science and art without globalism

Yes, but its a very poorly expanding type of art, trade and science. You know why we have a golden age of tehcnological advancment and level of living? Beacuse we opened up ourself and joined tougheter, and thanks to this the greatest minds of our time can work on making it better for everyone, the alternative is country x finding a cure for cancer and keeping it to themselfs because "fuck the guys who were not born here, what were they thinking, beaing born in a diferent country".

>>46564626
Nations are literally cultural and ethnic groups.

A state isn't necessarily that, but the trend in Europe had been towards nation-states until recently, which formed states out of those true divisions of culture and tradition.

>>46564623
>>46564712

>by hating the people whose religion calls for your subjugation and destruction, you are actually aiding ISIS

Seriously m8?
I hope more mudslimes go to fight for ISIS, so that murricans can blow more of them up.

>>46564754
Nice argument you got there.

>>46564773
And soon, that golden age is gonna end, because the countries who made it possible are being flooded by medieval savages who care nothing for any of our achievements, and see us in nothing but contempt, unless something is done soon.

You can have trade, science, and art, without erasing your national and cultural identities, or having to open your countries to every type of savage from Shitfuckistan and Bumfuck Africa.

>>46564725
>Finland is the land for Finns
Wrong.

Finland is a peninsula that some tribesman a few thousand years ago sat their fat asses on. He didn't have a damn deed, he didn't have a fucking title to it. He just fucking claimed it.

The world belongs to no one, you dumb shit. That your ancestors settled there rather than someone else's is a coincidence, not some magic fucking destiny.

>You can have trade, science, and art, without the rampant, nation and culture destroying globalism that is being pushed down to Europe.
Sure, if you're willing to have technology move at the pace it did in the 1800s.

Tech improvements sped up as borders thinned out and scientists could collaborate regardless of locale. In the old days, it was all competition, and the sciences suffered as a result.

>>46564802
You don't deserve anything more at this point, faggot. Kill. Yourself.

>>46564818
/tg/ is remarkebly easy to troll

>>46564725
Racism is a natural response, and you could even say it's a good thing if you don't care about condemning innocents. It's still unjust towards individuals who genuinely have no intent of harming you. And nobody will say that you should not, or are not justified in, dealing with people who don't follow your rules according to your law.
Regardless though, it is neither random achmeds nor some globalists that will ruin Finland. That will be done when your people give up on what makes you Finns - your community, your customs, your values. Hell, cold treatment of strangers might well be one of them. But it is your own people who determine whether your country lives on or dissolves, not some external enemy.

>>46564754
great argument m8

>>46564816
>falling for le multiculti meme
baka desu senpai

>>46564816
I'm glad tribespeople don't have real claims to land, all these people complaining about European settlement in the New World don't have a leg to stand on any more.

>>46564816
>Sure, if you're willing to have technology move at the pace it did in the 1800s.
How is letting in a bunch of rapists going to help technological advancement?

>>46564802
>And soon, that golden age is gonna end, because the countries who made it possible are being flooded by medieval savages who care nothing for any of our achievements, and see us in nothing but contempt, unless something is done soon.

THEY ARE GOING TO KILL US ALL! ITS THE APOCALYPSE

>>46564798
And that trend only started in the later years of the 18th century, since before that the idea of nation didn't really exist, it was just (for the biggest part) people that were subjects to a king. That was the reason of the 100 years war, two different kings claiming to be the legit king of France. Even the American Revolution was just people that wanted to have more political power, and if Britain had given them parliament representation they would be under Elizabeth II now

>>46564892
We-ell, Steve Jobs was child of German girl and a Syrian guy...

>>46564816
>He just fucking claimed it.
Yes, and?
The land still belongs to his descendants, by their right of birth.

No-one but is claiming anything about magic, or destiny.
Finland belongs to the Finns, because it is Finns who have been living here for countless fucking generations, and have endured the attempts of foreign powers to snuff us out.
I will continue that trend, by being defacto hostile to anyone who is not of my people, who seeks to subvert our people, or claim our wealth for him/herself.

Finland is my homeland, and Finns are my people, and I am more than willing to kill and die in her defense. Anyone who tries to either subvert our sovereignty, or take us over by force, is an enemy in my eyes.

>>46564823
No u.

>>46564859
That is sadly true on some aspects. We have traitors of our own, who actively seek to further globalist causes, advocate for the influx of more dangerous foreigners here, and in general, pursue goals that will endanger the future of our land and people. I hate them far more, than I hate foreigners desu. To betray your own people, and homeland, for personal gain, is nothing but despicable.

>>46564881
>all these people complaining about European settlement in the New World don't have a leg to stand on any more.
Did they have a leg to stand on before? Is there some mass exodus of European descendants that's about to hit the United States? Or are you full of shit?

People can complain about the injustice of the things that happened, but I stand by my statement. Even the native Americans don't believe they own the land. They believe that no one should.

>>46564936
And the world would have been a better place if that faggot died from cancer when he was a kid.

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>>46564626
Institute pls leave

>>46564939
>Syria is my homeland, and Syrians are my people, and I am more than willing to kill and die in her defense. Anyone who tries to either subvert our sovereignty, or take us over by force, is an enemy in my eyes.
See? Your shit might as well be an ISIS speech, you fucking cunt.

>>46564958
a bit harsh and rude m8

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>>46564939
>finn
>wealth

Would you chucklefucks kindly stop feeding the trolls and discuss politics on a board where it's allowed?

>>46564944
>Even the native Americans don't believe they own the land.
Yeah, except they very much think they do, or should.

>>46564816
Yes, and a novel belongs to the guy who made the paper it's written on.
Finns created the state of Finland, Finns built the cities, Finns enacted the Finnish laws, Finns created the culture and traditions, Finns shed blood to keep the place from getting annexed and Finns made the country like it is now. If Finns want to keep their place to themselves let them do it.

>>46564966
>dat pic
So kawaii. Shame it ends with Lenin-chan dying, and Stalin-chan having Trotsky-chan executed in some alley.

>>46564982
the thread is past bump limit. Its gonna die

>>46564969
>Defending your homeland from invasion is totally the same thing as projecting force and committing attacks thousands of miles away

>>46563840
>have you ever seen a lottery winner turn 1,000,000 into 10 billion?
>Underperforming index funds by 10 Billion
>http://www.moneytalksnews.com/why-youre-probably-better-investing-than-donald-trump/

God, he's not even a well optimized noble, lern2getgud Trump's player.

>>46564816
>Sure, if you're willing to have technology move at the pace it did in the 1800s.
Technology was moving pretty well in the 1800s, what with the Industrial revolution being the single greatest change to human maximum productivity in history and a good chunk of the physics that goes into modern devices getting figured out.

None of this needed large-scale movement of people, just movement of the intelligentsia.

>>46564712
>if muslims aren't coddled and help above criticism they go jihad on the kafir

At last I truly see that Islam is the religion of peace.

>>46564969
>Syria is my homeland, and Syrians are my people, and I am more than willing to kill and die in her defense.
Seeing how Syrian "men" are fleeing by the masses to Europe, instead of fighting for their homeland I'd say that we are very much different m8.

And I got no problem with foreign people fighting for their homeland against hostile invaders. It is honorable thing to do. What I do have a problem with, is those foreign people coming HERE and starting to leech of our society, harass our women, and generally act like violent fucking thugs.

>>46564998
>Yes, and a novel belongs to the guy who made the paper it's written on.
So it belongs to the printer, and not the author?

>>46565014
Yeah, the latter is done by the more successful as you don't need to suffer war damage to your own country.

Why wait for enemies to attack you when you can keep them off balance at their home or close to their borders?

>>46565015
>God why didn't he just invest his money in the stock market? How dare he create jobs, branch out, and be an entrepreneur?
>Fucking Wall Street thieves! Why don't they use their money to help people?