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Jumpchain CYOA Thread #770: CHAOS edition

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>Google Drive
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B20r6rsFLOg_Zk5RdVdya3hJNnc&usp=sharing

>Jumpchain IRC Chat
http://client00.chat.mibbit.com/?server=rizon.mibbit.org&channel=%23JumpchainCYOA

https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/?#JumpchainCYOA

>Rules
http://pastebin.com/Gqj3iKyn

>How to Jumpchain
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1qb0_OLhDrDNjZmRG02SDFaRVk/view

>Last Thread
>>46428469
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What does your soul look like, Jumpers?
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Burgli has a Nightmare in Dreamland.

http://pastebin.com/wQ0kTWfm
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>>46442394
Currently, a Strawberry SOUL from Undertale surrounded by Seven SOULS in the Colours of the Neathbow, and one Brownish Red one that was put into my Inside Out Self for safekeeping.
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>>46442394
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Straight from the changelog:

0.5: Tweaked the prices of Angelroid companion perks, added a line to Rule Breaker, spread discounts to Drop-Ins, expanded Hacking Field and Medusa, removed ‘Don’t Hurt Me’ and added ‘Jumper MELAN’ in its place from drawbacks. Added a note regarding in-series power levels compared to Angelroid perks at time of writing.
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>>46442394
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DDS anon are you keeping the current not drop-in origin that gives you memories and a history in the word as Sera's sibling like in the WIP? Please?

Also someone had a neat idea for the no memories drawback last thread.
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>>46442619
>Tweaked the prices of Angelroid companion perks, added a line to Rule Breaker, spread discounts to Drop-Ins, expanded Hacking Field and Medusa, removed ‘Don’t Hurt Me’
Can you expand on these?

Also, I like how you completely ignored that you had five or so people tell you outright they wanted a way to be able to stay relevant to the plot. I mean, you can't dismiss it as 'one shitposter' at that point. At that point, you are purposefully ignoring criticism.
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>>46442760
>indulge my death wish!

That's how you sound.
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>>46442794
Isn't the entire point of asking for a way to stay relevant that you specifically want instantly die for being involved in the plot?
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>>46442824
>want
don't want to
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>>46442824
>I "can" fight these entities.
>Therefore I "have to."
>Thus, my death wish must be indulged.

There is nothing wrong with not going after the BBEG.
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>>46442531
D'awwww.
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>>46442876
There's something wrong with not being able to get involved in the plot.
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>>46442876
There is a pretty big difference between picking a fight with the main villain day 1 and hitting up the main characters and doing shit with them, jackass.
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Hello, Generic Sburb anon here... Currently having trouble thinking of what the capstones should be for Drop-In and Harley/English. Does anyone have suggestions for those?
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>>46442979
Mind giving us what you've got so far so we can get a good feel for what you're going for?
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So I just wanted to check; is it going to be stepping on Marvel Anon's toes if I include Magneto's anti-telepathy helmet? Because it's a pretty big part of the movies and works well as an item, but I don't want to start shit.
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>>46442979
For Drop In, IIRC it is based on the Egbert/ Crocker Line, so you may want to have something based on getting powers from artifacts based on Jane's foray into Trickster mode and John putting his arm into the Plot Hole and getting his retcon powers. I can't really think of much for Harley/ English, sorry about that.
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>>46443264
Not sure on Marvel Anon, but I say include it if you think it's that deserving of a place in the jump.
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>>46443306
>retcon powers
Isn't this a bit much?
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>>46442794
You know with the talk of how powerful this bad guy is, can I prank the ever loving shit out of him? Just spend 10 years making his life miserable. Possibly framing his underlings for painting his bed room plaid or loosening all the salt shakers.
I feel like if at the end of the 10 years he is having high blood pressure problems and randomly obliterating minions out of paranoia I have won.
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>>46443264
It's fine, just because something shows up in another jump doesn't mean you cant include it. Now putting something in a jump that doesn't belong that is in another jump is a dick move but the helmet was actually a pretty important little thing.
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>>46443335
This is an admirable goal.
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>>46442367 >CHAOS
>>46442394
>>46442619
Pic related to all of the above.
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>>46443328
I didn't say you should just get retcon powers, I was thinking of luck when it comes to finding artifacts that would give you powers, and it being less likely to backfire as horribly as trickster mode did.
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>>46443168
Ofcourse, anon. Here is most of the perk stuff I have for now, through not everything is typed out yet. It's... a pretty rough draft for now.

http://pastebin.com/xzfXGmSA

>>46443306
That could work, yes... Not sure how through.

>>46443328
No, that kind of unlimited retcon powers are clearly far too much. not a bit.

>>46443381
Hm, that might work well, yes?
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>>46443349
Also would he be vulnerable to time stopping powers. Not because I want to do anything but draw penises on his face. I feel that is a key part of my plan.
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So, do anti- evil effects from castlevania affect forces of chaos (daemons, cultists, etc.)
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>>46443493
Yes. Dracula is the avatar of the god of Chaos, his brand of evil is tied directly to the idea of Chaos.
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>>46443465
Probably. Go for it. Minos himself is honestly a complete pushover once you get past his mooks and security since all we've seen him do is brandish an energy spear like the egotistical moron he is.

An almost completely unpowered Tomoki, a contender for 'least interesting and capable protagonist in history', who has zero combat experience in any shape or form had no real issue with him. It's part of the reason why this 'involvement with the plot' complaint confuses and annoys me.
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>>46443596
>Someone asks you for to clarify on what exactly changed in the update.
>Gets ignored.
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>>46443596
>It's part of the reason why this 'involvement with the plot' complaint confuses and annoys me.
You yourself said that the big players will instantly erase you from existence.
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>>46443674
No he didn't. He said that they were completely incapable of just erasing you from existence. There's a perk for it and everything. Did you read the jump?
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>>46443428
>Drop In Free Perk
Heir Conditioning?
>Strider/ Lalonde Free Perk
Coolkid
>Grimdarkness
No suggestions, I just wanted to tell you that it's pretty awesome.
>Lowblooded -400cp Perk
Mobius Double Reacharound
>Highblood Free Perk
Irons in the Fire
Finally, does purchasing God Tier give your companion the ability to go god tier, or do they have to purchase it separately?
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>>46443596
*Sigh* I may have to take this jump... which means watching the anime... just so I can troll the villain... actually I may troll the heroes too... and the minions. Screw it everyone gets trolled. My companions will believe I have gone quite mad but I am going to enjoy myself.
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>>46443694
No, that perk says they don't notice you right away.
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>>46443752
>Unique Data Signature: Synapse has a powerful hold on Earth and its population. They can casually write people in and out of existence, change Earth's history, and even project themselves as avatars into human bodies with new memories and history with nobody being any wiser. But not you. Synapse cannot edit your history, mind, or any of your possessions, nor indirectly affect you using similar technology.
>This doesn't stop an Angelroid armed with continent-leveling weapons from trying to kill you, but you at least have a chance to defend yourself instead of being at the mercy of some cosmic text editor. This is jump-specific and doesn't carry over to future jumps

Nope. You're immune. You can be killed, but you can't just be erased.
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>>46442445
I can't stop reading this.
I adore Burgli and I was a plush version of him.

>>46442394
Probably quite odd, but what it looks like would depend on the universe one views it through.
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>>46443789
They can send their army of angels after you the jump for some reason doesn't let you compare to.
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>>46443825
>not making your own angel army
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>>46443835
With the stuff from the jump?
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>>46443825
Sure, but now you're changing the goal posts. The question wasn't whether they could kill you, it was whether they could erase you from existence.
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>>46443835
>not making an army of lizards
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>>46443851
Getting seared into nothing with a laser is being erased from existence, defense force.
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>>46443860
Aren't those literal angel lizards now?
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>>46443697
Those names seem fitting... and somewhat obvious in retrospect. Thank you.

>No suggestions, I just wanted to tell you that it's pretty awesome.
Excellent. Thanks.

>Finally, does purchasing God Tier give your companion the ability to go god tier, or do they have to purchase it separately?
Your doomed timeline clone would get it, since they get every perk you get from this jump.

I'm not sure on whether purchasing God Tier unlocks it for normal imported companions... I'm leaning towards yes, through I might just discount it for companions if you brought it.
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>>46443868
With that said, it's really no different than taking on 40K or SoaSE or Fairy Tail before you're ready.
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>>46443843
Yeah, actually. Person of Interest and Favor of Heaven from the Drop In tree would let you recruit an army of Angelroids, while Tools of Daedalus from the Synapse Resident tree would let you build your own.
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>>46443868
Yep, that sure is some great goal post-shifting you're doing there. Keep at it and you'll barely have to kick the ball at all to score a point.
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>>46443899
Pretty sure Fairy Tail allows you to build yourself stronger so you don't instantly become irrelevant and die during the story.
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>>46443902
That first combo wouldn't work if you're working against Synapse, which you would be.

The second one specifically prevents you from building the Pandora System, meaning your Angels cannot stand up to theirs who will be much stronger. They can also just instantly delete them.
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>>46443948
And so does this jump. You can be exactly as strong as the main protagonist, and he does fine. This is not a dangerous setting. I get that it might look like one to you, but it's really not. Yes, there are continent-busting weapons, but no one's going to use them. It's like calling a setting based on the real world a dangerous setting, because the real world has weapons that can destroy entire continents.
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>>46443948
Asura's Wrath - the perks available don't let you get to Asura the Destructor, meaning you can be killed easily by Gohma Vlitra or Chakravartin.
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>>46444005
No, no you can't. It specifically cripples you so you can't.

>It's not dangerous if you're not involved in the plot.
Missing the point.

>>46444008
>I can quote an example of bad jump design.
Congrats. Do you want me to use Animal Crossing as a metric for what's okay now?
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>>46443697
>>46443897
I'm not sure giving people God-tier is a good idea. Can't those guys turn entire sets of planets into billiard ball-sized objects or flip the bird to causality?
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>>46444037
>Asura's Wrath
>bad Jump design
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>>46444037
Anon, I am squarely on the side of removing the nerf.

But you are being retarded now.
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>>46444067
For what? Not liking that jump?
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>>46444037
>No, no you can't. It specifically cripples you so you can't.
The main character doesn't have the Pandora System, bucko. He's just an ordinary human teenaged boy. And he survives just fine. Even with being the target of the villains that have the continent-busters, he doesn't get continent-busted. So yeah, you can be involved in the plot and it won't be that dangerous.
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>>46444043
>turn entire sets of planets into billiard ball-sized objects
That was with added first guardian powers, which are explicitly banned.
>flip the bird to causality
That was with a Juju, which you wouldn't be able to access unless you take the endgame scenario.
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>>46444084
He has someone who does protecting him, 'bucko'.
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>>46444100
And it just bans you from having it, sugerbell. So, you know, get one of those people who has it to protect you. You're not that anon who was bitching and screaming about how having to rely on other people means you're weak and pathetic, are you?
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Hey /jc/, been a while. I noticed I missed Anon asking the production rate of Cortex Command cloning tanks a couple threads ago, so here is your answer if you are still wondering:

TradeStar keeps a backlog of the various clone types it has for sale, so buying them takes as long as the transport does. If you've got a nice landing zone on hand, that's less than a minute. Worse conditions make a drop take longer or prohibit it all together. TradeStar will bill you for transports lost to hot-drops.
If you're running a imported Tech that requires exotic materials, you'll need to supply TradeStar with said materials for them to do this work (TradeStar airdrops can also pick up goods in-game, so buying some standard item and handing off the materials then works quite well).

Monopoly Breaker's a little more involved. The only time we ever see such a shop in operation, it has a few tanks that each pump out a culled clone every few seconds. I don't remember exactly, so lets say 30. Thing is, Culled Clones are really, really shitty. They're only really good for swarm tactics and are blatantly deformed. Think zombie-level hideous. For a healthy (aside from being brainless) human clone, it's probably closer to five minutes. If you've got something exotic mixed in there, considerably longer.
If your creation is larger than human size, you're going to need to fundamentally retool the process and all bets are off on necessary duration. I have no clue.

>>46442394
Pic related.
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>>46444037
What's wrong with Animal Crossing?
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>>46444043
No. The planets into billiard balls is done in Homestuck, but the one God Tier on that level is hopped up on First Guardian power, which is ridiculously overpowered and on another level entirely, and is specifically banned for this jump.

Causality is still an issue with with Time players. Only john gets to ignore it, and that's because he gets super special retcon powers from an artifact, which you won't even have a chance of getting without taking the canon end jump option.
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>>46444154
He's probably referring to the original version that tera/bancho made. It wasn't very good.
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>>46444130
So the only way to be relevant in the plot is to hide under Icarus' ass.

>>46444154
Look at it.
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>>46444154
It's fine now thanks to Young Justice anon, but it was originally done by bancho/tera and it was awful.
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>>46444175
I'd actually say that causality is more a problem for Time players than it is for anyone else. Their entire shtick is going around making sure causality doesn't get fucked up, they're responsible for dealing with all the messes that the rest of the game and players make.
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>>46444136
How are you doing?
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>>46444214
Rather well, thank you for asking.
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>>46444193
>So the only way to be relevant in the plot is to hide under Icarus' ass.
Got it, you are the moaner. Well, I'm sorry to hear that, honeyblossom. I don't think we're going to have a productive conversation, we proved last time that we're too different in what we think makes for an entertaining jump. So have a nice night, darling.
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>>46444093
>>46444175
And what exactly is keeping us from getting either of those things?
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>>46444288
Them being explicitly banned by the Jump, the same way you can't get wishes in Adventure Time or the Groundhogs day spell in Mushoku Tensei.
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>>46444314
Ah, so the dick move.
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>>46444267
Or maybe we don't all want to be like Red who breaks out in hives at the idea of being able to fight the plot.
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>>46444267
I think some of us would like choices beyond just hiding under Icarus, anon. Is that unreasonable to you?
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>>46444347
Welp, take a drink everybody. Our shitposter brings up "Oh my god nerfbitch Red" without that person even being involved.
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>>46444267
>>46444347
Why does it feel as if both of you are shitposting nancies?
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>>46444369
See >>46444360

I'm not the guy bringing up Red. Sorry anon.
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>>46444360
I've told you before why I think that's not the only option, flutter-biscuit. But you didn't seem to get it then, so it's not really worth getting into again. Let's just agree that this conversation isn't going to go anywhere, and drop it, okay? I think the rest of the thread is getting fed up with us.
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http://pastebin.com/pveXvJsn

The duel of destiny. Can Burgli survive against Aeon Calcos?
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>>46444288
They're banned by jumpmaker fiat, as mentioned. And besides, you wouldn't be able to find them anyway, since you're not in canon, but in a generic session that contains neither.

>>46444343
Maybe. If it makes you feel better, you /can/ get them... If you're willing to take the End Jump scenario to go to Homestuck proper. Sort of like Gurren Lagann, and such.
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>>46444385
They both are being just, the shittiest and shitposters.

One wants to be given cosmic power to fight the one, maybe two powerful characters in the entire series, because how dare he not be the most powerful in any jump this is absurd he pays top dollar for these jumps.

The other's being a complete prick by going to the other extreme, and saying "WELL JUST HIDE BEHIND ANOTHER CHARACTER'S MINI-SKIRT, TOOTIE-FROOTIE," and being a completely condescending and smug fuckbucket.
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>>46444418
Oh man, oh man. I haven't looked forward to a new chapter of a story this much since the latest Johannes Cabal book.

I really want to see Burgli run through Crypt of the Necrodancer.
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>>46444483
You're going to kill me but I haven't played Crypt of The Necrodancer. Although I am thinking of getting it, it looks super neat. When I eventually play it, I'll throw him in there.
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>>46444412
Sure, I'm willing to stop talking with you. I was mainly responding to what the jumpmaker said in the first place.
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>>46444529
Stop trying to get the last word in.
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>>46444527
Nah, no murder will be required. At least you've heard of it, which is more than most people. It really is a lot of fun to play. I keep it installed and I pick it up whenever I want a break from more serious games.
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>>46444369
Doesn't stop it from being the truth, Red's jumps are even worse. How much you want to bet she's responsible for shitting up the jump?
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What are the rules for created children in jump? As in you sat down with magic for years and figured out how to play god in the most blatant manner. Do they count as companions? and would inherent abilities carry over?
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>>46444668
>Macross, Resident Evil, Bayonetta, Indiana Jones
>bad
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>>46444668
Please put yourself out of our misery.
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>>46444668
...
I'm being baited.
I'm being baited, and didn't realize it holy shit.

Welp. You win this one anon. Holy shit I feel a special kind of dumb for not realizing you're That Guy.

Enjoy nursing a two-year-old grudge. Gotta wonder how life is for you if that's what you cling to so dearly.
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>>46444727
They count as companions. It's in the additional rules pastebin.
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>>46444735
>>46444733
>>46444732
I would like to clarify again that the anti-Red shitposter is not me, the person who was originally complaining about Heaven's Missing Junk.
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>>46444732
>>46444733
>>46444735
Please don't take the bait, guys.

He's done this for two years straight, how have you fucks not learned how to deal with him.
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>>46444766
He's anon, so he can't be filtered.
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>>46444776
You don't need to filter to just mentally block a fucker.
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>>46444766
/jc/ has been around for over two years?! HOLY FUCK! I'VE BEEN HERE FOR TWO FUCKING YEARS! AAAAAHH
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>>46444764
Not convinced, but we've got 24 posters in thread. So I'll take your post seriously for now.
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>>46444627
Well, aside from Crypt of the Necrodancer, do you want me to throw him somewhere else?
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>>46442445
>Nightmare in Dreamland
Well, that went to dark places at the end. And woah, it looks awfully like he HK'd an MC towards the end there...
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>>46444818
hell, it debuted in CYOA threads in the summer of 2013
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>>46444764
Huh.... well all that time spent making Jack Spicer able to survive millennia in jump was unnecessary. Whatever it lead to cool stuff so no regrets. Thanks anyway anon.
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>>46444818
How the fuck did /jc/ survive going on for 2 years?
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How many Vows and Limitations can a Nen Technique typically possess?
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>>46444891
Muppet Treasure Island. Or Imaginary Friend.
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>>46444973
Constant content production. Constant Jump discussion.

And our collective refusal to die.
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>>46444973
I think salt can be used as a preservative.
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>>46444988
As many as you want. You could make it super ultra-specialized and have huge costs to it, but get incredible power in the process. You probably won't use it more than once, though.
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>>46444973
It was preserved in alcohol.
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>>46444827
If it helps I'll say that I generally like Red as a person.
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>>46445060
You really shouldn't. She parades herself around until someone dares to call her out on her bullshit, then turtles up until her fans rush to defend her.

The sooner she gives up her projects and sits on a shark's face, the better.
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>>46445060
Shes ok most of the time. The problem is she can be way too quick to take offense.
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>>46444136
Not the Anon who asked, but thankyou anyway, that's cool info to know.

just added it to my steam wishlist
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>>46445060
>>46445134
>>46445186
Really guys.

Srsly. Are we srsly doing this.
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>>46445197
Glad to be of service.

Hearts and minds, muahahaha!
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>>46445347
I'm not. I wanted to clear something up because there is nothing that makes your opinion lose validity than having a shitposter agree with you. Now I'm going back to videogames since Heaven won't even tell me in depth what he changed this update.
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>>46442394
An infinite expanse of white light that reality itself bends before. Sealed beneath massive cardinalities of metastructures to prevent its' immeasurable, irresistable power from creating and destroying worlds by its' very nature.

>>46442445
Burgli meets the Slann('s remnants) in Warhammer Fantasy Battle when?
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>>46444988
As many as you want but just remember that the Nen Power is yours. It knows if you're bullshitting it.

If you have a power that can only be used on rainy days then you've got a pretty decent restriction based on weather conditions.

However, if you can easily make it rain with a snap of your fingers ala a feat, perk or power then its not much of a limitation/restriction.
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I asked before, but what is Almighty damage in SMT? Is it basically Holy damage? Is it any kind of damage that ignores conventional defences, or a specific type? Could something like Supernatural angels' smite or Balefire count as Almighty damage?
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So, has anyone done anything interesting with the Amazo Memory Backup from Young Justice? Not the obvious applications like copying all your powers into cybernetics for your allies, or things like that. More the subtle but very impressive applications of breaking the laws of physics in your tech. Like, I recently realized that if I could copy Meltdowner from Raildex into my computers, I could make really easy quantum computation. Convert an entire block of processors into the wave-particle dual state, entangle them and get massive computing power that way.
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I've got 300 points left in Dragon Age and no idea what to do with 'em. Any advice for a Mage build?
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>>46443860
Why not both?
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Jump #16: Light of Terra - Deadlight Unbroken - Part 1: Why Does This Happen to Me?
Companion: Necron Tomb Spyder
Perk: Luck of the Damned (-200CP)
Cybernetics: Total recall (-150CP)
Allies: Aquill Lejens, Kin of Iron
Enemies: Wargars, Redeemers, Void Walkers, Pale Sons
Damaged Systems: Atmospherics

I didn't now where I was. After the usual post jump dizziness with a ting of euphoria, I'd expected to come to my senses with Sans nearby making horrible puns, and Her offering the usual selection of overpowered abilities and items, but all I saw were walls the color of rust and small piles of rubbish everywhere. I heard some screaming and saw a few flickers of her, and I reached out to Her, took a few steps, and felt my breath instantly vanish from my body.

>Lady Akhena! Don't worry, i'll save you!
>Lady Akhena? Also, are those my lungs?
>Yes, Lady Akhena. The inferior fleshy organs seemed to be causing you considerable distress, so I replaced them.
...Alright, a slightly faulty Necron is still exponentially better then nothing.

Captain Grigobretz is a welcome sight at this point. A sight that's talking so fast I can barely make out what he's saying, but Tomby seems to listening aptly and...recording(?) the conversation, so I'll ask him what's up later. He offered us the use of his pre-heresy autodoc and his trophies, though I took nothing from that. After getting an implant to allow me to remember all that I had learned in my past 150 years of traveling, I looked around the trophy room, and saw It.

The item powerful enough to keep gods at bay in a universe where a sub-reality is shaped by the thoughts of the living. I take a minute to think things over. Would She be forgiving or me abandoning her? The others would more likely than not forgive me, but if she ended this journey, then everyone would be stuck in my home dimension, with no way to ever see any of our friends again. Before I could decide, the decision was taken from me.
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>>46443264
Not so long as it's priced appropriately to its benefits. If you drop it to 50 CP and make it work against all mind-affecting things ever, yeah, but that's also just poor jump design. If it's not just a powergrab, you're good.
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>>46445946
Almighty is not Holy, that's the Light element. Almighty is a non-elemental, non-physical damage type. It covers damage that can't be resisted through immunity. Raw toughness can tank it, but there's no way to no-sell it. The only way to survive Almighty is if you're really strong, you can't cheat it. The absolute best you can get is Resist Almighty, which just halves the damage, there's no Null, Absorb, or Reflect Almighty. So conventional defenses actually would work, if you had a durable enough one. And things like Smite or Balefire would probably count as something similar and ignore SMT immunities, too.
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>>46445959
I'm working on getting everything done but so I've used miniaturization and efficiency along with soft physics from worm to create a smart fog that makes things more like The universe depicted in Felix the cat cartoons and old Betty Boop shows
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>>46446101
Good thing we have defenses and immunities from outside SMT to buff our defenses.
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>>46446045
Cont.

The Captain had arranged alliances with a couple tribes and sent us out with his emblem. The Kin of Iron were basically a requirement if we wanted the engines repaired anytime soon, and the Aquill because they were the best soldiers on this ship and could probably beat any other tribe, despite being the smallest numbers wise. The Kin would also prove useful for their connections to the other tribes.

We met the Wargars next, who proved surprisingly easy to convert to my side. All I had to do was beat their leader, some hulking brute, in a fight, which proved easy enough to do with my hard-earned knowledge of the Thousand Cuts style. It might not have been enhanced by Chi anymore, but the style was perfectly serviceable. After the fight is over, there was a big "feast" made mostly out of vermin and mushrooms. The Wargars and I got along surprisingly well, and I did my best to teach them the Way of the Closed Fist.

After a couple weeks worth of traveling, we reached the territory of the Void Walkers, who lived on the opposite side of the ship from pretty much everyone else. They challenged me to best their champion in a race across the ship through deadly territory. It was pretty easy, considering that I no longer had to breath and exercised daily. The Voidwalkers took their loss like a champ and showed us things. The Void Walkers knew the safest routes through the riskiest areas of the ship, so travel time was lessened considerably.

We next traveled to the Redeemers, which only took us a week! For a refreshing change of pace, they were willing to sign up without some contest or whatever. We began the journey to the territory of the Pale Sons, confident in our ability to persuade them to join us on our quest to repair the ship.
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>>46446176
Yes. Like I said, defense buffs will work. If you can make yourself really durable then Almighty damage won't be more of a threat to you than other damage types. Magic immunity should probably work, too, given that a high magic defense stat can protect you from Almighty damage. It's just that there's no specific immunity to Almighty possible. It's not an automatic instant kill.
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>>46445946
>>46446101 has the right idea, mechanically. Thematically, Almighty fits divine destruction. Above the hosts of heaven, below the pits of hell, or among the outer limits of whatever equivalent exists in the pantheon in question, some big name has decided that something or someone has overstayed their welcome and should just not _be_ anymore. Bigger things (physically and spiritually) take more effort to erase, but nothing is immune.

I suspect most of Almighty's inviolable nature has to do with all things within SMT being the creations of said divine entities. A sort of "I made you, so I can certainly unmake you" deal. Whether that property holds up in other sandboxes is debatable.
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>>46446066
Nah. It would be either 400 CP or a capstone item and only work on psionic abilities.
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>>46446021
Arcane Warrior.
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>>46446205
Cont.


We never even got to their territory. From what Tomby told me, about a mile or so out, a Pale Sons sniper took a shot at me. Luckily, the bullet ricoched off the helmet I always wore into the ceiling. However, I was knocked out for a cople days afterwards. The others dragged my body to the nearest friendly fort while fending off attacks by by the Pale Sons. They made it to the fort, which happened to be made by the Lejens, and proceeded to reinforce the defences as much as they could.

They managed to get communications up with the other factions shortly before I woke, and the news was grim. After their ambush on our caravan/travelling diplomatic party, the Pale Sons had apparently sent some signal and now everyone was under seige. The fears about their numbers appear to have been gratified, because they were seemingly trying to bury us under an ocean of men.

Taking all this in, I got on the line with everyone else and began trying to organize a plan.. After a few days of arguing, we had a simple but good plan. The Kin, with the aid of the Void Walkers, were going to block every passage they could, anyway they could. The Lejens were going to serve as their bodyguards and prevent a breakout. The Wargar and the Redeemers were going to rescue us and escort me and Tomby to the home of the Pale Sons so that we might negotiate a treaty.

Soon, days of fighting turn to weeks, weeks to months, and months to years. We were eventually rescued, but suffered a lot of casualties and had to retreat. The Pale Sons are vicious fighters, fighting tooth and nail for reasons I couldn't fathom. They poisoned our water and food supplies. They blew up their own bases with as many of us inside as they could get. They burnt their supplies to keep it out of our hands. As bad as thiings were though, it was in Year 6 that things turned truly awful.
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>>46445959
Well combine it with starro tech and some nanite and you could give people magic as well as superpowers.

>>46446150
Thats a awesome idea. Wish I thought of it.
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>>46446591
Don't encourage him.
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>>46446591
Not quite. You can give people teachable or inheritable magic systems such as DnD or Harry Potter magic.
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>>46445959
Define interesting? We've mainly been copying the Path to Victory into, well, basically any AI we create to vastly improve its' processing power since AIs can't get headaches. Personally we had the Pyrokinesis esper power and we're not sure how useful copying that into things would be. Being made of fire doesn't seem like a useful trick for an AI. Effectively miniaturised particle accelerators on the other hand...

Though the Quantum Mind from Supreme Commander is, since it effectively grants technopathic control which is a great boon for AIs to seize control of local technolog. Especially with Sohon capabilities and the Planetary Consciousness-level psychic potential from Alpha centauri, this basically functions as an adaptive toolkit for AIs to solve problems ranging from terraforming to economic crises.

Being able to install TOWER CONNECT mentalities in Songstone AIs is also great. Which really gets crazy once our Video Conduit powers, Reload from Biomega and Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger from Blame! since it effectively allows the AIs to apply the limited data we gathered on Entity wavelength sciences from Cortex Command's Founder option by basically attuning their hardlight constructs to their opponents' weaknesses on a submolecular level.
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>>46446150
>miniaturization and efficiency along with soft physics from worm

You're only allowed one Worm power, dude. Unless you're wanking it you're allowed 2 which wouldn't surprise me.
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>>46446591
thank you, and since one of my cultures defining technologies is von Neumann nanomachines have spread throughout the planet and everyone on it, making things much much more cartoonish. I haven't gone of it yet but I'm working on it, giving everyone and everything cartoon physics seems like a tempting fate you know? Oh well, my chain is a the Osbournes/Anna Nicole show reality show after all.
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>>46446670
I'd presume he's working with companions (who can be imported into Worm to get powers).
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>>46446670
they're not my powers, remember you can have companions with powers? I have one with compound computation, one with reverse engineering, one with miniaturization and efficiency.
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>>46446670
You can use ABM on your companions' powers, too. Presumably he's copying Soft Physics into tech that way.
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>>46446731
you can? I thought YJ anon said you couldn't ? I was planning on working around that using my amazo ability to copy powers to copy their powers then have that power updated in the next jump.
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>>46446776
I'm pretty sure he said that, yeah.
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>>46446731
actually I'm the one who took soft physics, it's benchmarked at the movie version of the mask so it's pretty damn powerful and one of the better reality warping perks you can get, in jump chain.
>>46446867
I remember him saying the opposite after I specifically asked, he said it had the data to replicate your powers, not that it had the data to reverse engineer powers into machines. The difference is that it has data to make mechanical versions of powers rather than the data to allow you to make powers into mechanical versions. But I have a really bad memory so he'll probably be on tomorrow and give us the ruling, in the meantime I'm not going to go against what I remember and it's not like it's that big a deal anyway.
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>>46441130
Thanks brah.
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>>46446101
>No way to n-sell it.

Is that so?
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So.

Why is agility the best stat for looking cool?
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>>46446731
>>46446776
>>46446978
I don't believe I said that you could use ABM to do that. I did rule once that if you use Savage Salvage to eat Amazo in the Young Justice Jump, then you can use his copying ability on others and can then use ABM to grant the powers that you copied, which might be where the confusion is coming from. Otherwise, ABM is just for powers that you have or get in the future.
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>>46447157
>Why is Pulchritude the best stat for looking cool?
FTFY.
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>>46447132
Bruh you do realize Baldr was in SMT4 and he didnt have his All Resists right? He's only a level 29 Genma too, he's low shit

He was even WEAK TO GUN
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>>46447182
I must have misunderstood. Well, still useful. Guess I'll just have to absorb Amazo.
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>>46447157
because it's the one with the best moves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkGpSSRhLu0
>>46447182
okay so it won't work on companions right off the bat, but my workaround will help. thanks.
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>>46447194
I haven't looked at SMT 4 yet. Currently don't have time to sit down with it due to finals hell. I would hope they'd take out his plot device power from another game where he wasn't a walking murder barrier. Saying nothing can resist it in series isn't strictly true if we're talking about the game line as a whole. Outside of that one game though? Yes.

So I'm pleasantly surprised to see nobody trying to game that with data drain or other such nonsense.
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>>46447367
Yeah, but "weak to mistletoe" is a more easy to abuse power than "weak to Almighty", so I'm not sure why anyone would want it.
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>>46447393
What doesn't kill you from same jump, anon. Building an immunity is possible since it isn't an instakill. Although it gets back into being invulnerable is boring.
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>>46447473
It's much more simpler to me-his invincibility is founded on everything ON THAT EARTH agreeing not to harm him so logically outside the jump he wouldn't be particularly invincible beyond being an SMT being of power.
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Wait, so is the Junkyard a computer program?
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>>46447558
Yes. Also a parallel dimension. There's not much of a difference, in Digital Devil Saga. All reality is data, all data is reality. You might be able to hack it, but given what happens in canon when that's done you're more likely to just collapse it. Be very careful.
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>>46447653
What would that mean for me post-jump?
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>>46447693
Not much. You'd be a demon, and those can be hacked to alter their traits...but it's a really bad idea. It goes wrong more often than not. Best to not try it, at least not on yourself. Maybe after a lot of experimentation with other demons. The science perks in the Devil Survivor jumps would help.
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>>46447653
What does that mean if you've got technopathy / data control perks (e.g. from Kid Radd, The Matrix, Generic Virtual World, etc)?
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>>46446506
Cont.

Monstrous creatures of chitin and flesh and stony shells from the forgotten depths of the ship were forced to the "surface" by the Atmospherics systems shutting down. The Kin were the first to notice, with numbers so few that every loss was felt. Their tales were corroborated by the Lejens, whose missing soldiers had until then been thought to be because of Pale Sons ambushes. Fortified outposts soon started disappearing, and then two major bases, one under assault by the Pale Sons, simply vanished.

A council was called to discuss what to do. The Pale Sons were invited, but they never sent a response. It was decided that we return to the original plan: Re-activate the warp engine and get to the repair depot ASAP. Hopefully the creatures would reurn to their nests when the atmo was repaired. What was left of the Wargars and Redeemers would join us, but the Lejens would provide the bulk of our forces. The Voidwalkers, poor, brave bastards that they were, volunteered to be scouts.

We slowly made our way to the engines, Tomby leading the way with his sensors, which were barely able to detect the creatures. Soon, less than half of the 100 Void Walker scouts that had set out returned with their report. Most of the corridors were crawling with the beasts, but for one series of wide corridors, which, with a group as large as ours, was our safest option. We moved as quickly as possible, a hundred Lejens and twice that many Wargar traveling down the wide corridors with make-shift lights.
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>>46447761
You seem to know a lot about it, your jumps?
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I've got new capstones for EMH; tell me what you think:

Retcon Proof- Your existence is ensured; time travel, and other supernatural effects that would threaten your existence (as in, the fact that you exist/existed, not things that can kill you) have no effect on you. This protection extends to any living ancestors, as well as to your companions. (600 CP, discount Drop In)

Superior - You’ve grown into your powers and abilities quite well, to the point where you can easily use them in creative or unusual ways that others might not expect; in fact, you’re mastery of your own powers has allowed you to, to a certain extent, do the same with the abilities of others- easily figuring out the limits of their own abilities, as well as how you can use their own strengths against them. (600 CP, discount Drop In)

Fight As One- You are surprisingly in tune with those that fight alongside you; you have near perfect awareness of their current state at all times, and with enough awareness of their abilities you can combo your attacks together in a way that makes each strike more effective and devastating than the last. (600 CP, discount Agent)

Hyper Reflexes- Your reflexes are near superhuman; you can easily dodge or block almost anything that’s thrown at you and, any skills that you have might look instinctual with how quickly and naturally you use them- and that’s before taking into consideration any powers that you might have. Your reflexes scale with how fast you are; if you have super speed, for example, you will be able to react with ridiculous speed. (600 CP, discount Agent)


Cont...
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>>46447774
Cont.

Then, on the second day of the journey, the slaughter started. One or two men at a time disappeared, their screams rushing our footsteps. They didn't seem to like the scent of the Wargars gunpowder, so we used it in an amount that even they thought of as excessive. We were nearly there when they ambushed us. They dropped in from holes in the ceiling, claws and talons sawing through the soldiers. I fire a few shots off, and get lucky, killing a couple. Tomby and I run, making a break for the engine room that, according to reports, was only a corridor away.

The Kin of Iron, Lejens, Void Walkers, and half the Wargar followed us, the other half stayed behind to buy us time. We made it inside, sealed the door, and proceeded to fortify as much as possible, because fuck relying on the door to keep those things out. Everyone not needed to repair the engines turned their guns on the door or the ceiling. Soon, the Kin and Tomby had finished repairing the engine and got the Gellar Field to full effectiveness. I experience my first time in the Warp, clutching the Deadlight so that it might prevent a daemon from thinking my head would be a fun thing to explode out of.
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>>46447813
Pym’s Protégé- You can synthesize and utilize Pym Particles to achieve scientific wonders; increasing or decreasing objects and living creatures in size, density, and weight. The exact details of how Pym Particles work are a bit fuzzy, perhaps even to Hank Pym, but they seem to have near limitless potential. Growth is capped at around the size of a large building, while shrinking can go down to subatomic levels. (600 CP, discount Scientist)

Gamma Radiation Expert- Like Bruce Banner, you’ve got considerable knowledge about Gamma radiation. Now normally exposure to Gamma radiation would result in unpleasant side effects- cancer, death, tumors, bad breath- but you’ve discovered a way to expose others to Gamma radiation in a way that grants them superhuman abilities. This works best on humans- aliens and other creatures might be enhanced with some fine tuning, but individuals who already possess super human abilities can have an adverse reaction due to the Gamma radiation not only mutating their bodies, but their powers as well, leading to decreased intelligence, unpredictable or animalistic mutations, and possibly even death. The strength and types of mutations depend on how much Gamma radiation is used, and while the mutations are random some additional study can be done on those you have enhanced to pinpoint what genes result in which mutations, allowing you too eventually choose exactly what mutations occur. It is unlikely that you will create someone as strong as the Hulk. (600 CP, discount Scientist)


Cont...
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>>46447776
No, just an SMT nerd.
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>>46447852
Rogue’s Gallery- You’re seen as someone to rally behind; you can easily recruit others when you share a common goal, and can convince people that would normally be at each other’s throats to work together for a common cause- whatever that may be. If the threat or reward is great enough, you may even be able to convince so-called “heroes” to work with those who would normally antagonize them; though their loyalty or willingness to work with their enemies will most likely end once their common goal is reached. (600 CP, discount Villain)

Master Planner- Your scheming ability could rival Dr. Dooms; your penchant for plots is astounding, and the amount of contingencies and fail safes you can seamlessly integrate into your plans almost assures that, even if you “fail”, you’ll still win in some other way. (600 CP, discount Villain)


And there we go. I should mention that the old Villain capstone that basically allows you to access your powers/abilities/physical attributes across forms is now the capstone Power for Drop Ins; the capstone Power for Villains is based off of Galactus' ability to imbue others with power as his Heralds. The other capstone powers for Agents and Scientists are based off of the Absorbing Man and Technovore, respectively.
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>>46447967
I should also mention that the capstone Powers will cost 800/400 CP, and not 600/300 CP. There's also going to be only one capstone Power for each background.
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>>46448069
So when you said capstone in your first post, did you mean 600/300 CP Perk, not the actual 800/400 CP Perk? Also, most of these seem interesting, good job.
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>>46447813
>>46447852
>>46447967
>drop in perks

Looks to be on the right track to me, just the right kind of meta. Retcon proof is a little extreme though since that's quite a broad slew of effects you're lolnoping; keep it to time travel and we're good.

>Agent

No complaints here, though I'm a bit puzzled what the scaling reflexes is based on since it sounds like an outright superhuman power

>Scientist
>Rogue

I like it! I have some personal reservations about Pym Particles but those are to do with something Bancho tried to claim he could do ages ago rather than being actual critique

Except, wasn't it Surtr who went around turning people into Heralds in EMH not Galactus?
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>>46448140
I think he's distinguishing between powers and perks. Like, these are the capstones for the narrative abilities and personal skills that are covered by perks, and then there's going to be a second table for actual superpowers. And agreed, the perks look good.
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>>46442619
Do Angelroids eat?
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>>46447813
Actually on second thought-having it extends to companions is a little much since it negates the need to purchase it for imported companions with a drop-in backrgound unlike any of the other capstones
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>>46448218
Have to say I like the idea of being retcon proof against some dude telling the ( root / warp / akashic / goddb / maguffin-of-the-week ) to delete me. Make them work for it, y'know?
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>>46448257
Yes. They can taste as humans can, too, since canon examples pick up favorite foods after spending time on Earth.
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>>46448313
On the one hand, I dunno. Could be cool to have a REAL-off. On the other hand, as written it's outright immunity against absolutely anything anyone from Azathoth waking up to Haruhi or Featherine deciding you're not real can field against you.

I guess it doesn't stop them from dumping a lot of antimatter into you 5 seconds ago or bending space to toss you into a black hole with a thought-or for the real heavy hitters, erasing the concept of your immunity first, THEN targetting your existence. So-there's that.
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>>46448376
Yeah, the thing about reality warpers on their level is that being immune to simply being erased doesn't help you all that much.
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>>46448219
That makes more sense, I was thinking he would have 100/200/200/400/400/600/600/800, and I would be hemorrhaging CP and have to jump it as Jump #338 and come up with a convoluted plan to survive the drawbacks I would end up taking to purchase enough of the perks to feel satisfied and make sure my companions at least get something. Again.
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>>46448411
...you know, I want to kick myself now because-the thing I'm really concerned about is also the thing I keep forgetting to bring up in my posts: The fact that it extends to all companions. It just seems a little unfair since in absolute terms of perk parity since its' effect don't have to be repurchased for imported companions, unlike every other capstone; even the tech perks require a modicum of effort to teach your companions how to do mad science or whatever.
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>>46448140
Yep, I'm doing a Skill/Perk section and a Power section. So there are "Capstones" for both sections- the Powers are just more expensive, because I felt that it would be more balanced considering their applications.

>>46448218
>>46448298
>>46448313

Those are some good points about Retcon Proof, but I have to agree with >>46448313 on this one. However >>46448298 has a good point on extending it to companions; I'll change that so it's not redundant if they purchase it.

As for the Hyper Reflexes scaling, I felt that it was appropriate to mention that they did that so they wouldn't be obsolete with enhanced speed. I am a bit on the fence about changing it, since it's technically only a Power if you already have super speed, but it's something to consider.

About the Heralds; there are technically three individuals who can create "Heralds" that we've seen in universe. One of them is Surtur, the other is Galactus (from season 2's finale) and Apocalypse, who is in Wolverine and the X-Men which is a shared universe with EMH.

>>46448457
The Perk structure is 100/100/200/200/300/300/400/400/600/600, while the power structure is similar to that at 200/200/200/200/400/400/400/600/600/800, with a few freebies and appearance altering things. This is for each background, and isn't taking in additional Perks/Powers for the races that I have planned. There's also Items and Companions, and maybe a few Warehouse add-ons.
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>>46448615
Eh, that's fair enough. On second thought-like anon said, reality warping's versatile enough to still be a serious challenge.

When you put it like that about Hyper Reflexes I'm a little unsure myself. Your call, really. I can see arguments on both sides for it staying relevant as a purchase and arguments for Agent supposing to be the mundane badass option but then again they do have a capstone power as well so yeah.

Would you mind if we're free to fluff an aesthetic theme for granting Herald powers-or maybe even have a 100-200 CP perks for making those aesthetics useful in various ways? I've yet to seen Galactus or Apocalypse but I rather like the look of Surtur's fire posession.
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What I've got so far:
http://pastebin.com/KriUzRyy

Not sure about the Criminal background, since I'm mostly going off of Gambit, who had, what, 20 minutes of screentime? But I needed another background since the Military one was too close to Experiment.
Anyway, I'll drop it if it's too out of place.
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>>46448735
It's funny that you mention that aesthetics thing; there's going to be an option in the Powers section that lets you change the aesthetics of the powers that you've purchased- such as changing the color of your fire or lightning. The base level would be free, while purchasing it would allow your powers to have more pronounced effects- such as super durability manifesting as rocklike/metallic skin, or having pyrokinetic abilities engulf you in flames.
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>>46448868
Oh, and you'll start out with 400 extra CP to spend on Powers. 600 for Experiments.
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>>46445544
What if one if your allies can do it a the drop of a hat?
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>>46448868
I like what you have so far.
I don't think Criminal as a background is too out of place, but I'm probably not the best judge of that.
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>>46448898
That works perfectly for me, thank you! I was actually hoping of doing something with hardlight and pixels, with the purchasable version. I love me some hardlight pixels in my powers. And skintight black bodysuits and tronlines but that's another kettle of aesthetics.
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>>46448218
No the retcon proof is fine as is.
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>>46447182
Isn't it just an item with information on it? Couldn't anyone who is smart enough to understand it figure out how to make tech with their powers?
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>>46448868
Perhaps something more related to espionage? I take it the criminal background is supposed to reflect mystique/raven? Maybe something about people being ok with you switching sides?
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>>46449153
If you'd scrolled down a little more you'd have seen I'd actually agreed after talking to YJanon and another anon
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>>46449196
My internets a bit slow and theres where i was at the time.
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>>46447813
>>46447852
>>46447967
>>46448898

>>46448868

You two cannot comprehend the level of hype I am feeling right now.
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>>46449159
My intention was that it can only be used to replicate your powers, and your powers only.
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>>46443428
What does Grimdarkness do precisely? It sounds cool, but damned if I can figure out what it does.
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>>46447852
>Growth is capped at around the size of a large building, while shrinking can go down to subatomic levels.
What if we're already bigger than a large building?
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What jumps besides Shadowrun will help me improve my Rigger skills?

I want to make a crap ton of robots, control them, and not have to go outside because I'm a shut-in.
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>>46449505
You could probably go bigger- how much so would depend on how big you are in comparison to a building. After a while you'd get diminishing returns from using Pym Particles, to the point where any growth would be hardly noticeable.
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How do the gadgets in the Arrowverse compare to the comics? I'm trying to decide whether it's worth it to pick up gadgeteer or not.
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>>46449474
From what I can tell it gives you an super mode with the ability to fly, use it's dark aura to project thorny tentacles, and a general boost to dark or eldritch magic.
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>>46449576
Supreme Commander has a bunch of perks that would lend well to making and controlling a crap ton of robots from the security of your basem- er, bunker. It even includes your very own mobile "bunker" complete with the ability to make endless robots...
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>>46448988
Debatable truly. It would probably be more powerful then if you could make it "rain" since its not you but you are still aware they can do it. It would be more akin to not being able to use it unless an ally was assisting you which can be a form of limitation.

Again, the Nen power is yours. Its aware of if you are lying to yourself. If you state it will never work on Women and then go use it on a women stating, "Well I meant a lady. She wasn't lady like." then you are just lying to yourself and the power would be aware of it.

Best to stick to easy limitations, vows and restrictions like once a week, only works on family, have to pray every day, and other such easily definables.
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>>46449628
>and a general boost to dark or eldritch magic.
Well, that’s definitely something I have got to get. Thank you for the answer.
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I have a career model question. Specifically about Makeover Montage.
There are several surgeries that you can learn to do in chain to grant people super powers, can you use Makeover Montage just to make it so you apply some topical cream or dress them up as if they had had the surgery? If you had the skills to do the surgery in the first place of coarse.
Also unrelated but kind of curious can you change someone's sex with this by dressing them in the clothes of the other sex?
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>>46449628
Would you get the physical characters of grimdarkness, and would they hold over through the jump?

being able to speak only in gibberish would be annoying as fuck
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>>46449857
If I were to say, you would probably have them while active, and you will probably have issues terminating it without some toggling perks before the Jump ends, and be able to terminate it at will afterwards. As for the speech, it will probably be an issue while you have it active.
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>>46449048
Thanks.

>>46449184
I like that idea. There's plenty in the series to base an espionage/merc background on.
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>>46442706
Also question, does having anti-sustenance perks remove the need to consume demon flesh? Not that I have a problem doing so, just curious.
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>>46448868
Looks great. Can gravity manipulation make areas of altered gravity that stay altered for a long time? Like a room where the east wall is 'down'.
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>>46450332
I'm going to say you can set up an area like that and keep it running as long as you're still conscious and in range of the effects.
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>>46449340
Might want to add that to your eventual update notes. As a perk I would have assumed it only works for you, but as an item only you can buy I assumed it could be used by anyone with the smarts to comprehend the Amazo technology.

Or maybe allow companions to purchase it, since only they would be able to use it... Actually that could be abused really badly, I see why you wanted to only work for the jumper themselves.
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>>46449991
Okay cool
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>>46442706
I'm here, and yeah, I'm keeping the origin as is. As for the drawback, I'm currently weighing that and the other idea with no memories/history, no transformation.
>>46450135
No, at least not in-Jump. Consuming demon flesh/magnetite is just what fuels your demon form. Post-Jump, I'd say maybe, but keep in mind that the demon form in canon requires a lot of food to fuel it, so we'll see.
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Is Dracula a viable Servant for Type-Moon?
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>>46450942
Vlad Tepes is and there's some interactions he has with the legend of Dracula, so you'd need to go for him.
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>>46450942
Yes, but if you give him vampire powers he'll be furious with you.
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>>46450942
Dracula? No, because Vlad Tepes is the incarnation of himself and the vampire at once. You can choose to give him his Legend of Dracula and Innocent Monster NP/Skill, which would make him more like the vampire, especially when using the NP. You could also summon a different version of Vlad in Fate/Extra if you want.
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>>46449616
It's based on Cisco Ramon'a ability to whip out some funky shit. He's made a lot of the weapons and armor for both Team Arrow & Flash as well over half the team in Legends of Tomorrow are wearing or using his stuff. White Canary suit, Snarks & Rory's elemental guns, Firestorm's quantum splicer. That leaves the Hawks, Palmer, and Rip as the only ones not using his tech or suits.

http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/Cisco_Ramon#See_also
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>>46451043
Wasn't the Vlad from Fate/Extra batshit insane?
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>>46451475
I think so, been a while since I played Extra and Vlad there was a lot more forgettable then his other version in Apocrypha.
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>>46451490
In fairness, that's less because Vlad was a bad character(He was okay) and more because Extra, especially CCC, was fucking insane. Speaking of which, the final boss for CCC was...something.
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>>46451522
At least a version of it isnt used by an actual serva-
>Medb
Okay yeah lets not touch that
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>>46451522
Complete global saturation
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>>46451522
I'd say it's more an issue of him being bland compared to everyone around him, base Extra didn't really get too crazy till Buddha and I don't think Vlad was in CCC, but I may be mistaken. Even base Extra had a lot cooler servants like Li Shuwen and Lu Bu, along with old favourites like EMIYA and Cu Chulainn. CCC made it even worse by adding in Gilgamesh, Karna, Liz etc. Vlad's all right, but he just doesn't stand out compared to everyone else in the game, save I guess Robin Hood.
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>>46451550
Agreed, the less said about that the better.
>>46451551
Three innocent(?) words that become so wrong with context.
>>46451557
Yeah, that was the main problem, Vlad was okay in a game where everyone else had at least something unique and cool about them.
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From Super Robot Wars,

>Genocide Machine (400)- You're a member, or you've been in contact with a member of the Zuvorg Alliance (They'll be introduced and named as "Inspectors" and "Guests" by themselves and EFA until this reveal of their true name) , a galactic alliance of human looking aliens, and as a result have information regarding their technology.

>The Zuvorg Alliance has a very different comprehension of energy, as it can get balled up, and then projected as powerful lasers, massive fields of arcing electricity, containment fields that then explode, among other possibilities.

>Besides energy, robots of the Zuvorg Alliance have generally better performance compared to Earth made robots, showing it off with weapons like supersonic whips with beam buzzsaws or armor that shifts around to accommodate internal oversized cannons.

Exactly how insane energy manipulation are we talking about? Would it work on more exotic energies like gravitational beams (Blame!) or magical fireballs since SRW apparently has some pseudo-shamanistic giant robot magitech going on? At the risk of invoking Wildbow's Law, how does the Zuvorg Alliance and Earth Federation's advanced energy science compare to Scion's?
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>>46451681
Haven't read Worm so I really cant care.

Here's a collection of clips of the relevant suits the perk is based off of, you'll see the energy messery mostly in regards to their finisher moves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vh0fFjOY9A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cek7T2rbkIg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS_nDbDzimE


Considering Super Robot Wars does get gravity weapons I wouldn't put it past a degree of adaptation in that aspect, though for Genocide Machine it's meant to be like actual electricity or just energy that can be derived from physics, magic stuff is exactly what the Masoukishin origin Elementalist and the appropriate engine is for. That being said the videos are there to help you feel out what's meant to be by manipulation
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>>46451743
Oh okay, thanks! I'd really rather not bring up Worm but I needed a metric for really impressive energy attacks and I already had some ideas for magitech so-

>1:35

what

How does that even

/why/

I'm starting ot see why you priced the Scientist perk tree so high, I can't decide if I'm watching cartoon physics or some sort of Lovecraftian horror's yo-yo
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>>46451846
Clearly it exploits 4th dimensional rotation
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>>46451846
Anon

You must go FAST

But seriously it is just probably whipping a giant energy buzzsaw REALLY FAST
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So I have a question about marvel cinematic universe's Extremis formula.
Is there any way to safely use this without it possibly turning someone in to a bomb? Also is it safe to use with the super solder serum?
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>>46451890
Centipede Project was basically that.

http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Centipede_Project
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>>46451862
...I don't know what that is, but it sure sounds like it could spiral out of control if left to its' own devices.

I was going to fuse this stuff with Necron technology and Gravity furnace technology to make those work together better, but now I'm hoping the other two will make this tomfoolery make more sense somehow.

>>46451877
That's just it! What kind of aboslute madman sat down one day and decided "hey, you know what space warfare needs? Giant robot saw yo-yos!"

Think about how much time R&D spent guaging the tensile strength of a material flexible enough to serve as an elastic cable and calculating the terminal velocity of a preprogrammed pattern to whip those things without entangling the pilot and vehicle by accident (unless she's doing all that by herself which raises even more questions). Think about all the people who asked why they didn't use the time and resources to build something more straightforward like an energy cannon and some missiles-or worse, THOUGHT THIS WAS A TOTALLY GOOD IDEA.
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>>46451920
Why wouldn't it be a good idea? This is a super robot universe, the Rule of Cool is an actual physical law there. Beam cannons and missiles are never as effective as the crazy weird weapons, not unless you make them just as extravagant.
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>>46451920
If robot yoyos are what confuse you a lot, behold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxQG4d6DqWQ

Also geez Moon Dwellers is slowly happening so that'll be fun to account for, dunno if there'll be an update, probably depends how much gets introduced. We SRW J/GC now boys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4-PL1dQWeU
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>>46451982
Ah, G Burnkwaran. I fucking love that guy. It's like Baron Doban's delinquent kid.
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I come bearing good news and bad news about A Certain Magical Index, for those who aren't in the know:

The good news? Imagine Breaker's true nature has been more or less confirmed as basically a really, really buff Noble Phantasm made from wizards who want to go back to being normal

The bad news? Something has shown up that can overpower it. And it has convinced me the series has gone batshit insane.

http://toarumajutsunoindex.wikia.com/wiki/Kamisato_Kakeru#Difference_with_Imagine_Breaker
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>>46452268
>And it has convinced me the series has gone batshit insane.
Really? Took you this long?
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>>46452283
Look, I KNOW about the Majins and awakening and shit.

But now the BBEG is literally Justice Lord Touma and-look, the harem magnet aspect of IB has been confirmed to be a canon effect! This is. This has to be some kind of self-parody.

http://toarumajutsunoindex.wikia.com/wiki/Kamisato_Faction
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>>46452307
I thought it was confirmed as a canon effect a long time ago. Or was it just theorized to be one by the characters and never explicitly stated to be the case?
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>>46452320
Theorised, yeah.

But now. It appears the Majins literally made something that causes harems to happen as an actual effect some fucking how.
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>>46452335
Well that's dumb and lazy
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>>46452335
Pheremones.
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>>46452455
Nanomachines.
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>>46452464
Son
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>>46452335
>causes harems to happen as an actual effect some fucking how.
To be fair, fucking around with magic to... well, fuck around with magic is a pretty old concept.
But yes, the series only gets crazier.
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>>46452488
I mean I could probably create some kind of harem spell, given enough time and motivation.
Then I could cast that on side characters or protagonists in certain jumps and fuck up the whole plot.
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105. Shrek
Location: Hansel's Honeymoon Hideout
Origin: Drop-in
Perks: Musical Burst, Animal Form (-200), Super-Strength (-400), Dragon (-400)

Year 50 as a dragon and it's starting to get old. Big, scary monster was never my bag. Knights are idiots that want to slay me for some reason while I chill out in a cave. And for the most part when you capture them and store them in towers, they become pretty nice. Maybe they just like being locked up with delicious food and creature comforts, or maybe it's just Stockholm syndrome.

Either way, I ended up with a forest of towers full of knights that had to be rescued. And they were, of course. Shrek and Fiona had use for an army for some reason, and a group of fat ex-knights was just the thing. I didn't involve myself much with the plots, only noting that the timelines would occasionally shift back and forth, as was their whim. When they showed up, I won't say I was startled, but I was annoyed enough to not bother with a triumphant return for the climax of whatever plot line that was. The knights came back later, and there was one of those standard make-up parties that happen for these movies. I didn't take them back, but it was a nice gesture.
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TEEN TITANS (9)
--LOCATION--
Jump City
--HISTORY--
Athlete (900cp)
Human, Male, 14yo
--POWERS, ABILITIES, & SKILLS--
•Martial Arts (Wing Chun)
•Peak Human Conditioning (800cp)
•Super Speed (600cp)
•Rogue (500cp)
--ITEMS & COMPANIONS--
•Costume
•Theme Song
•Allowance (400cp)
•Utility Belt (200cp)
--COMPANIONS--
•Import (-200cp)
->Leliana [800cp]
-Human, F, 14yo
-Mystery
•Empathy [750cp]
•Probability Manipulation [450cp]
•Peak Human Condition [250cp]
•Rogue [150cp]
•[ITEM] Communicators [100cp]
•[ITEM] Personal Weapon [Laser Bow] [0cp]
•[ITEM] Costume
•[ITEM] Theme Song
->Elizabeth Utarefson [800cp]
-Tamaranean, F, 16 [0cp]
-Mystery
•[ITEM] Costume
•[ITEM] Theme Song
--DRAWBACKS--
•Coveted (0cp)

T-E-E-N TITANS, LETS GO! Oh boy, it's Teen Titans. Looks like we're part the Titans. Seeing how Kid Flash is already an honorary member, I take up the name Impulse. Leliana was Artemis and Elizabeth is Violetfire a cousin of Starfire. We kinda just fit in and lend our strengths to the team. However it would seem that while here we attracted some weirdo, I mean WEIRDO. He's a big fanboy and is always trying something. I can't count the number of times he's tried to "own" us. Other than that it was a pretty relaxing trip. I think the benefactor wished to show Elizabeth that there are better places. She got long swimmingly with Starfire and even Raven. It was a fun trip, and I hope my next trip is as fun and eventful as this one.
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Have you ever started a secret society in any of your jumps?
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>>46452928
S&M ET? thats a weird thought.
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>>46452928
Never had the thought to. There's really no point because you'll be gone in ten years. So by time you got it set up and running, you gotta leave again. Plus rather act in the open, because you can get away with a lot more.
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>>46452928
That depends, do cults count?
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>>46452928
It's one of my favorite things to do in modern worlds with corrupt systems.
Often I make the Black Hand I am not good with names so I just steal others that I like., which is primarily made of combat androids disguised as people in black combat armor along with some Skynet style Terminators for good measure.
Armed with advanced weapons and cloaking tech, I send them out to deliver justice from the shadows.

Normally it's just my droids, but people are allowed to join if they can pass the Crimson Trials. Which are really just a set of psychological tests to see if you are sane, can handle pressure well, and want to join to do good and not for the power, wealth, and the sometimes killing.
Once you become a member, you will be given a new job (unless your current job is of benefit to the Black Hand), gear, training, some pay, and the best medical care possible along with the knowledge that you and your loved ones will always be cared for and kept from harm.
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>>46452928
does a mafia count? I'm usually pretty aboveboard with what I'm doing to the world.
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Will Campione! make good jump ? Maybe I could do it.
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>>46453241
Campione is kind of being made right now. It's complicated.
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>>46453248
Could you explain more? Who is doing it? What makes it so complicated?
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>>46453289
S'not being made here. And no, not on SB either. Almost finished, too.
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>>46453445
If it's not being made here, then obviously it's free for someone from here to make the proper version then.

>>46453241
Go for it anon.
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>>46453451
>obviously
>for someone from here
>proper version
What are we, an inclusive circlejerk club?
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>>46453468
If someone is making some jump on reddit or wherever, why can't we have our version? If the situation is just that the make originates elsewhere and still intends to post it here and recieve feedback from here, then I don't see why it's considered 'complicated'. Hence I'm assuming that they don't intend to post it here, something that has happened several times with jumps from both SB and Reddit, and saying that it's fine to have our own version.
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>>46453499
>I'm assuming that they don't intend to post it here
...Why?
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>>46453511
Reading the post might help anon. The situation has been described as complicated and just being made elsewhere isn't complicated in the slightest and has happened many times before and resulted in good jumps. So I am assuming the usual inter forum drama is, like it has many times in the past, resulting in some other JC community making a jump and wanting to have it to themselves. Which is fine, but doesn't mean we can't make a different one.

If that was not the intention, why the hell did you describe the situation as complicated or 'kind of being made'?
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>>46453542
>why the hell did you describe the situation as complicated or 'kind of being made'?
Because I am a pathetic drama queen. Satisfied?

Campione is in progress. That sounds about right and sufficiently "not complicated" to you?
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>>46453578
Sounds great. Try to do that from the start next time anon instead of misdirecting others.
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SIMS 3 (10)
--LOCATION--
Isla Paradiso
--ORIGIN--
Townie (800cp)
Male, Adult
--SKILLS--
•Genius
•Love To Swim (700cp)
•Charismatic (600cp)
•Natural Cook (500cp)
--SPECIAL ABILITIES--
•No Bills Ever (400cp)
•Seduction Master (200cp)
•Irresistible (-200cp)
--SPECIAL ABILITIES--
•Basement Dweller (-300cp)
--DRAWBACKS--
•Error 12 (-100cp)
•No Privacy (0cp)

What a nice relaxing time with my two best girls. We're on a little slice of heaven, nice weather all year long, water is clear, & the locals are all friendly. Maybe a bit too friendly, because they always seem to know what's going on in my own home. It took two weeks for my Château to finish building itself. However it doesn't seem to be right they know almost everything.

I guess it can't be helped, I am damn sexy. That's what Leliana & Elizabeth keep saying. I love them to death but I don't know, I still see my old self in the mirror. So all this attention is kinda odd. Then there's the fact I'm almost like in Groundhog's Day. Every now & then about 10% the time I repeat dates. Having to repeat a day is annoying, a week? Irritating. However repeating a month? That pisses me off.

On brightside my day doesn't really revolve around any schedule. We have our little estate and no one really bothers us. Despite you know everyone knowing what we do. It was embarrassing to walk into town for something or another & strike conversation about something mundane. Only for the mundane to turn into creepiness on their part. Y'know how many questions I've been asked about Kama Sutra positions? Or knowing what I prepared that morning for breakfast.

I just smile & nod, I stopped paying attention to what the locals have to say for most part. Besides the locals being way too nosy for their own good & groundhogs day on the occasion. It was a wonderful R&R trip. We all played in the water, and I taught them both how to scuba dive. I just hope my next trip is as fun & interesting as this one was.
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>>46453774
is Calvin a bad guy in this? He looks way evil
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>>46453578
Where is it in progress? not complaining i'm interested in finding a wip
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>>46454196
Have you read Calvin & Hobbes? Calvin is borderline sociopath.
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>>46454220
he was? I remember really being able to relate to him...
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>>46454236
Try to be a bit less obvious.
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The setup is too easy and I refuse to take part in this chicanery. I have standards god damn it.
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>>46454236
...Yeah, funny that...
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>>46452335
Wait they tied a harem creation spell to a be normal spell essentially? That is possibly the stupidest thing i have ever heard.
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>>46454252
I can't tell if you're referring to the apparent Campione jump, the image Manyfist posted or whatever Bancho's just posted since the filter system is my best friend.

>>46454322
Well, I...wouldn't describe the right hands as "normal spells". Like I said-they're basically the physical incarnation of every wizard in existence's desire for things to go back to normal (IB) and to escape from reality (WR) so kind of like noble phatnasms, basically. But yes-according to Kamisato at least there is some interference from the Majins to create that effect, whether deliberate or because they're all subconsciously horny, it's not clear.

And yes, it is stupid. I wouldn't normally draw attention to Index news but I just had to single this out since it's stupid even by Index standards.
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Need an opinion here, which if these two is the better antimagic perk; Negima's Gift of the Twilight Imperium OR Dresden's Empty Night?
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>>46454421
Empty Night. Gift of the Twilight Imperium tops out at an (admittedly pretty high) maximum cap. Empty Night is absolute.
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>>46454421
Twilight Imperium. Empty Night is based on a type of being that can be bypassed by things seemingly much weaker than Balefire. Twilight Imperium has a higher threshold and can be used offensively.
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>>46454440
Thanks, now I can use the CP on something else.
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>>46454463
You fool! You have chosen poorly! Unless there's something you really wanted to buy in Negima in which case, go nuts I guess. Your call really.
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>>46454461
Ok, now really indecisive about it...
>>46454473
I'm also want the magic perk from Negima, Gift of the Thousand Master but either have enough CP for Twilight or the teaching perk.
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>>46454421
Depends on what you want.

TI Pros: you can weaponise it (enemy using constructs or summons? hit them and they go bye bye)
TI Cons: stops all magic unless you _choose_ otherwise (so if you get KO'd, nobody can use healing magic on you)

EN Pro: auto-stops magic used _against_ you
EN Con: you don't get to weaponise it against others
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>>46454497
...honestly? I don't know if you've read Dresden Files but if you haven't, you might as well go for what's most fun to you, you know? So if you do have definite things you want from Negima, I'm going to recommend you take Empty Night not because of its' relevant prowess but because you'll find it much more rewarding.

Personally I took neither perk because I wanted Gift of Chao in Negima, because I had some very specific things I wanted in Dresden Files and because I'm a strong believer in that the best antimagic is the type you can customise and setup for yourself.

>>46452928
Do the embassies for our ancient Shoggoth civilisation count? If not, then it's still a resounding yes; nothing like an inner circle of yesmen to unite the world against an eldritch threat. Or manipulate it under our social engineering, for that matter.

We usually don't have time to go for fancy names, though. Like a true spy, they're all obliquely referred to as private clubs or casual get-togethers because big, ominous logos are a good way to get found out by your rivals.
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>>46453468
Well obviously.
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>>46453468
Putting it mildly.
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>>46454570
why are you next to the mermaid chick from that cheesecake comic about monster babes?
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>>46454204
https://forum.questionablequesting.com/threads/jumpchain.1689/page-56#post-688358
Discussion continues for about a third of the next page.
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>>46454506
>>46454570
Well thanks for the help, gonna take both of them and go troll some Native American asshole from shadow ops.
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>>46454645
Looks more in front than beside to me.
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>>46454650
>questionable questing

Isn't that the place Bancho left for temporarily? I-is it say to say we can make our own version NOW?

Please?
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>>46454661
Next to doesn't specify a direction.
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>>46454645
Bad life decisions and worse alcohol.

C'est la vie.
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>>46454666
>Isn't that the place Bancho left for temporarily?
If he was on that thread, I never saw him.
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>>46454645
ASA likes the dead-eyed look that Kurusu gets from time to time when he realizes how fucked up his life is.
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>>46454666
I think until they announce it here, it's open game for anyone else to pick one up.
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>>46454666
Yeah, I'm not sure we should be counting jumps from Questionable Questing. QQ is the place that people go to when Sufficient Velocity is too restrictive for them. And Sufficient Velocity is the place people go to when Space Battles is too restrictive. And we ignore Space Battles all the time. Transitive property suggests we should ignore SV and QQ, too.
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>>46454707
I suppose here's where I should mention it's also where DDanon went to after we chased him off.
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>>46454707
>QQ is the place that people go to when Sufficient Velocity is too restrictive for them

QQ existed first, so that logic falls through.

>And Sufficient Velocity is the place people go to when Space Battles is too restrictive.

Actually, SV was created because of a mod shitstorm on SB. They are MORE restrictive, because the site is run by actual lawyers.
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>>46454745
>run by actual lawyers

Wait, ACTUAL lawyers? Like, full-time IRL working ones? Are they actually paid?

>that logic falls through

I dunno, transitive property aside the fact they had both DDanon and Bancho for a time sounds like good enough reason to pretend they don't exist.
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>>46454683
Look, you don't have to blame it on the alcohol. We all want a taste of sushi from time to time.
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>>46454770
>>46454707
I think the big problem is that whoever's making it hasn't announced it here, so we don't know whether they have any intention of posting it here at all. I'm all in for treating it as claimed if the maker posts here but it seems like it'd be for the best to ignore it until then.
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>>46454789
Careful now. He gets easily offended by such insinuations.
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>>46454745
>QQ existed first, so that logic falls through.
I'm not saying that QQ was made in response to SB. Just that QQ is where you go to if you want to post something racier than SB or SV allows.

>Actually, SV was created because of a mod shitstorm on SB. They are MORE restrictive, because the site is run by actual lawyers.
That has not been my experience. But maybe I'm just an edge case. It certainly seems like there's more that site is willing to allow, though.
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Vampire Diaries Jump? Is anyone working on one?
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>>46454770
No, i mean he's a lawyer as his day-job. Though they did make the site a company yesterday, and will be trying to monetize it.

>aside the fact they had both DDanon and Bancho for a time
>I'm going to believe a random anon with no stated proof just because Bancho is involved
Okay.

>>46454802
Have you been their recently? They've gotten really bad about it in the last two months.
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>>46454840
Ah. No, I admit I haven't visited recently. What happened?
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>>46454840
Fair enough.

Also, er, no-it's because I've been around long enough to remember DDanon announcing he was leaving for QQ. Only for him and others come back to post his jumps here to stir up shit. And then go away again, for good. As for Bancho-

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/42599317/#42621128

>>46454812
Nope
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>>46454853
Lotsa stuff. Squishy has essentially been really pushing the mods problems on the users, especially in regards to reporting posts that have anything more than a clinical mention of sex.

Really, a lot of the site's problems can be laid at his feet. He's not a good mod, and he's terrible at PR, so he keeps making a lot "Did you really have to say that?" posts.
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So, I've been making a Bartimaeus Series jump with a couple of other guys, and I was told I should put it here. So...here goes.
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>>46454962
I'm a bit uncertain about A Jaunt Through History. You may want to put some limits on what the jumper can and can't do if you're going to have it give CP. Otherwise you're going to get a lot of people just going "I'm being paid to get an extra nine thousand years to work on my [insert power-grinding plan here]? Don't mind if I do!" Either have it be a 0CP drawback or have it somehow restrict people from abusing it.
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>>46454962
>Breaker of Chains
This needs to be reduced a lot, it's way beyond pretty much any of the other perks in power. Maybe lowering it to a super high resistance instead of making even literally absolute forms of restriction useless?
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>>46455044
right. Gonna make it a 0CP thing then, I suppose. It was meant to be a "you'll face that many more dangers and problems" thing, but yeah, I can see how that'd go wrong.
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>>46455086
right. I'll look at it
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>>46454962
You are a wonderful person and should feel wonderful. Been hearing about Bartimaeus Trilogy WIPs since way back, and I'm glad one's finally finished. Just a few points of interest-

The idiot magician is your friend: To what extent can you customise your host magician for the jump? Can it be any canon character, or is there a template? What of gender, social status and personality?

Breaker of Chains: It's a little extreme, since no spirit-not Ramuthra or Nouda or even Uraziel-has shown the capability of complete immunity to bindings of all kinds. I'm going to get chewed out by at least one anon for suggesting this, but it probalby ought to be exceptional resistance instead to match what's been seen in canon

No restrictions on age, only on talent: I'm...actually not sure if it's priced too low or not. It doesn't have any innate capability at reducing your TALENT at the job after all. I dunno, just something to consider that it basically lets you waltz through a lot of red tape very easily y'know?

>Ring of Solomon

HA. Truly a trap option for the unwary.

Also what rank d'you start off as a spirit? Perhaps djinn as a baseline, and options to gain points by becoming a foliot/imp, or spend more CP to become an afrit/marid?
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>>46454874
Bancho did go there, but got run out by the QQ regulars and hasn't been seen since November. There's some shit nobody will tolerate.
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>>46454962
Also-could you keep the Ivory Summoning Horn's function of calling powerful beings up after the jump instead of just calling on people you like? I rather like that aspect better.

Also something I would like to point out about That Tickles: The canon user was beaten up thoroughly by a pretty strong djinn (basically the main character's evil counterpart) in a posessed human body, strangled by the shadow tentacles of a much stronger enchantment than the one that killed him (which was explicitly said to have battered down his resilience) and only AFTER that walked through a room to stand face to face with the other main character (who was protected by the Amulet) through the pestilence before crumbling to rotten bones.

"That tickles" is, if anything, an understatement. Verroq's like a horror movie slasher-fucker doesn't die until the most horrifying way to arises.
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>>46455286
Idiot Magician: it's basically up to fanwanking. If a jumper doesn't care about the plot or canon or anything, then take a canon character, if not, then it's your own body.

breaker of chains: yeah, I nerfed it already...

no restrictions... well, yeah. It's kinda a bureaucratic perk, really? I don't see it giving any huge thing that would warrant a bigger price.

I'm pretty sure that the spirit option's description mentions that you start as a djinni
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>>46452268
>Magic users all secretly wish not to have cool magic guys!
Really? Does this writer even understand humans?
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>>46455432
Ah, sorry-missed that part about the djinn and posted before the post timer updated your reply to the other guy respectively. Jump looks pretty great otherwise.

Would you rather folks wait before you post an update or do some preliminary builds? Some folks get attached to drafts so I wouldn't blame you wanting to put out a finished PDF before opening it to builds

Also-formatting error on the 4th line of the first paragraph and between the 2 Magician capstones; extra space and no spaces respectively.

>>46455463
I think it's supposed to be kinda

>UGH this reality warping collective unconsciousness is stressing me out, I wish I was back home living a normal life instead of being paranoid of other mages and bullshit hands and all this weirdness

but no, I agree this writer doesn't understand humans because of how badly the goddamn harems are written.
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>>46455463
I doubt it. Index has been almost completely devoid of anything approaching logic for a good long while.
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>>46455485
>UGH this reality warping collective unconsciousness is stressing me out, I wish I was back home living a normal life instead of being paranoid of other mages and bullshit hands and all this weirdness
Man, not even this would appeal to all people. Lot of people thrive on weirdness and action.
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say, would it be okay if I just posted a link to the google doc here?
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>>46455512
Lots of people also don't. But yeah I don't really think anything can be assumed to represent "all people".
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>>46455529
Sure.
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So I understand that you guys are very UNLIKELY to allow this sort of thing, but I kinda got bored the other day, and started reworking the type moon servant supplement. Most of it is just formatting changes, but I showed it to SB and one of them ran through it and did a grammar check.

I dont really intend to change all that much, just make it a bit less wall-of-text.

so... how mad have I made you?
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>>46455406
Oh hey found his profile.
>Posts: 10
Well that didn't last long.
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>>46454707
It's basically their porn board, so I don't trust anything they make.
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>>46455512
Right, which is why there's also an arm that makes things weirder and more chaotic. There's one to bring normalcy and one to bring weirdness, representing both sides.
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>>46455606
is this who I think it is? Cthulhu?
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>>46455606
Don't post it, keep it on Spacebatles.
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>>46455646
But that arm actually just kills you.
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>>46455606
A word of warning. Duck.
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>>46455606
If Val says it's okay, then it's okay. Otherwise, you will get so much yelling, you won't even believe it.
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anyway, the slightly reworked jump doc, with the suggested changes made is here.
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>>46455606
That's not allowed. It's outright banned, you can't post it here, you need to leave and I wish you'd die.
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>>46455606
Idrch...Drich? Is that you?
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>>46455606
Post it, then we'll see if you fucked something up.
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>>46455606
Don't listen to >>46455673 your shit isn't allowed. Altering people's jumps is not acceptable so keep your shit on your containment site.
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>>46455663
>Changes to the anti binding stuff
Dude...you should probably remove the very last sentence and just leave it at extremely powerful stuff still working. Saying that only totally perfect stuff works isn't much of a fix to it being unbalanced.
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>>46455606
Considering you put on a name, mentioned SB and have demonstrated you realise how unpopular what you're doing is?

I think you're fishing for a reaction but on the off-chance you actually mean well, see >>46455656.
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>>46455606
Spacebattles continues to prove that it's cancer.
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>>46455663
What >>46455696 said. Bindings much less than perfect stall some of the most powerful spirits in the series; even Uraziel implied his ring would eventually corrode. Everything else is good.
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>>46455649
Clever pun is unclever, apparently.

>>46455650
That was actually suggested by SB.

>>46455654
yeah, i know.

>>46455656
im going to be completely honest, and i dont mean to offend anyone with my SB-ness, but i have no idea who that is. I assume its the jump maker?

>>46455672
no?

>>46455673
It literally formatting and grammar, and less than 1/3 of the thing.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nCXJICN-DVJpHS5Vp37O1c2sG7MHYeje44BCpbWZ3Zc/edit?usp=sharing
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>>46455748
No alteration to other people's jumps is allowed at all.
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>>46455748
>im going to be completely honest, and i dont mean to offend anyone with my SB-ness, but i have no idea who that is. I assume its the jump maker?
Yes. Val is the jump maker. You really shouldn't have posted anything until such time as she chimed in. Prepare yourself for even more yelling.
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>>46455748
Yes, Val made the jump and servant supplement.

And I...never thought I'd say this, but SB is actually right. I've honestly never had any issue with the Servant Supplement personally, seems pretty straightforward to me.
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>>46455748
>People tell you not to be a retard but you still act retarded.
>You're so retarded you don't even know whose work you're shitting on
Why do you exist?
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>>46455748
Also I...can't help but noticed you took out the bolded, capitalised, enlarged text that reads


THIS SCALE IS ONLY FOR BASE
STATS. NOT SKILLS OR NOBLE
PHANTASMS.

So...yeah. Not off to a good start.
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>>46455809
Actually wait-you left out the entire description about Scale for some reason. Not sure what's up with that. It's a moot point anyway since it ought to be clear by now the concept is not very popular.
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>>46455606
>>46455748
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>>46455606
I'd prefer you didn't really. I've never heard anyone have a problem with it as is and I've tried, purposefully, to alter the original supplement I received as little as possible. Adding the pretty insulting fact that you not only couldn't be bothered asking, but evidently by not even knowing who made it, that idea was never even on your mind in the first place.

The fact that you've apparently made added changes, including the removal of some of the few vital changes I did add to the document, beyond what you've said really seals the deal in me thinking you need to scuttle back to the cesspool.
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>>46455748
Not a matter of puns. More like I happen to be a certain grenade you might know of.
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>>46455845
>cesspool

Hey, that's uncalled for. I've known some pretty well-designed cesspools in my time, and they don't deserve to be degraded by association with the SB jumpchain community.

On a lighter note, any idea how Servants would fair in Drakengard? Let's say-F/SN's Lancer or Caster, someone competant but not innately broken. I'm sure Kirei would positively thrive in the place, but would someone taking Fate and it as early jumps come out mostly intact or not?
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>>46455748
Well here's your answer, cancer. >>46455845

She says no, so get the hell out.
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My apologies, life has been being interesting. Mostly the good kind but been distracted and missed the Servant Supplement attempted rewrite in the SB thread.

As for the Campione thing inquiries have already been lodged with the jumpmaker by someone else about posting current draft in thread for judgement. Haven't looked at it much myself, it's still a WIP and doesn't seem to have been affected by its place of origin.
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>>46455975
Tell me about campione.
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>>46455975
It's alright, last I checked consensus is that it can be ignored anyway if it's godawful.

>>46455663
Oh, didja miss what I said about the Horn? I'd personall rather keep its' original function
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>>46455663
This is looking amusing so far.

I'm digging some of the perks like Whats a True Name? Has a lot of uses in a lot of settings. Will be eagerly monitoring this one.
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>>46455893
Ha!

Honestly? Most Servants would pretty much blow through the majority of the series. Most of it is normal people, with a few normal people that contract with magical creatures. Even most of these creatures would fall pretty easily to Lancer or Caster or most other non Assassin Servants. The stronger Dragons like Angelus, Legna or Michael might be able to give an alright fight to a mid range Servant. The Intoners could maybe keep up against low-mid level Servants, especially if they summon their angel, but it's a bit iffy.

The only real challenges you'd face are any of the apocalypse scenarios coming to fruition, since they generally involve at least thousands of the stronger creatures (Dragons, Grotesqueries) attacking everyone and sometimes a super big abomination. I'd say that one of the super big grotesquerie queens could probably defeat most Servants but they'd lose to the top tier like Gil, Herc or Karna. Basically, you'd probably be able to survive it as a first jump if you kept your head down. Fate, if you go Servant, should let you take part in the plot much better then any of the protags.

And the huge laser golem army and sci -fi dragon army at the end of Drakengard 2 is probably bad news too.
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>>46456006
Right. Well, I'll edit it.

Still, once that's done, and once I get done with Breaker of Chains, would you guys say the jump is done?
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>>46455748
>Modifying the bitch queens pride and joy.
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>>46456035
Forgot the image

I love you really Val
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>>46456033
I'd certainly say so, yes.

>>46456035
If you're a local shitposter, here's your (you)

If you're a member of SB venting your spleen, >>/out/

If you're Bancho posting sans trip and name, you're as much of a petty manchild as ever.
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>>46456035
I know you're just trying to start something, but it's too funny to resist pointing out just how blatantly wrong you are. Val's said many times how unhappy she is with the supplement as is.
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>>46456024
>And the huge laser golem army and sci -fi dragon army at the end of Drakengard 2 is probably bad news too.
Anyone who allows Drakengard 2 to happen deserves what they get. You either kill Nowe and Manah when they're children or you suffer, there is no third option.
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>>46455893
>blah blah insult to rocks
>someone on 4chan posting this

Not a leg to stand on.
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>>46456058
I'm not going to delete my post because it's only fair people know what an abrasive and paranoid asshole I can be, but I do kinda feel bad now.

Sarcasm doesn't carry well over the 'net.

>>46456085
Man, Cain was right all along. All his problems i later life could've been solved if only he murdered a little more.
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>>46456099
>someone on 4chan

Hi SB, feel free to leave at your earliest convenience.
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>>46456085
Personally, I find the thought of allowing Inuart to breed at all was just horrific, especially with Caim's dead sister's corpse. God that guy was a creep. Manah was doing great being dragged around and humiliated by Caim though. That stuff was just swell.

>>46456058
Don't worry, I laughed
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>>46456064
Man, I posted that and I didn't even get my fucking (You)

I want my money back
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>>46456104
>Man, Cain was right all along. All his problems i later life could've been solved if only he murdered a little more.
I think that might have been on purpose on his part, actually. If Caim stops having problems he stops having excuses to murder people. Letting Manah live was like a long-term investment in murder futures.

>>46456138
True enough, ideally you'd murder Inuart long before he did...anything. Anything at all, let alone anything bad. Just the moment you saw him. But there's a certain appeal to killing Nowe, instead. It would be so satisfying in so many ways.
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>>46456138
Blegh, forgot my name. Regret buying that membership sometimes, no captcha has some downsides.
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>>46456161
>pinkify

It's times like this I'm grateful the only quests I ever got into are dead for the foreseeable future. Dare I ask what that even does?
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>>46456185
Did you mean to link to the post above me?
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>>46456167
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>>46456148
Truly, the greatest of modern tragedies.

I am simply drowning in sorrow.

Because of my tears at how sad this is.

The humanity.
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>>46456196
Shit, I did yes. >>46456148

Fuck. Don't want to waste posts, gotta post something mo' relevant than admitting I'm an idiot.

Uh, tell me about your pets Jumpers?
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>>46456000
Still in WIP as I said, their current origins are Drop In, Magician, Heretic God, and Campione. They've got perks for some of the origins, though looking at it more closely there are a few issues with the design CP wise (namely Authorities are 600 cp and merely discounted for Gods or Campione, meaning that with Campione costing 700 it's fairly easy to end up unable to afford them).
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>>46456245
I meant the series.
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>>46456206
>>46456185

I think it's supposed to highlight all of Deculture's posts in pink, but it doesn't seem to work properly on Firefox

And speaking of pets. I thought we all agreed that FO4 jump was going to have a dog that didn't take up a companion slot.

I still have my Jolteon, though he takes up a companion slot so I never use him any more. I like having companions that I can talk with, that can spread the word of the emperor across the realm.
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>>46456294
Non-sapient animals generally don't take up slots already.
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>>46455606
>http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/42599317/#42621128
Nobody important cares. Post it.
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>>46456255
It's your sort of standard modern magic action anime. A lot of the drama is driven by the Heretic Gods, divinities that have broken the truce to leave mankind alone in the modern age and have entered our world. Not only are they problems in their own right, but anyone who manages to kill one can steal some of their miracles for their own use. Usually it's limited to only one miracle per killed god, but as the Campiones (the name for the god-slayers) tend to already be powerful wizards they tend to pick ones that synergize with the magic they already have and turn them into ridiculous powerhouses. They tend to drive supernatural politics as a result. The protagonist is just a normal guy who through a series of misadventures manages to kill Verethragna, the ancient Persian god of victory, without even knowing about the Campione thing, and winds up stealing all of his miracles because as the main character he has to be special. So now he's a major player in the supernatural world and gets thrown into all sorts of shenanigans.
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>>46456342
Where does it say that?
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So, this supplement argument reminded me of a question I have. Are EXs and +s in stats affected by discounts, too?
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To the maker of Tom and Jerry Jump, I propose a Drawback:

One More Time. Where whenever he's not occupied with Jerry, Tom goes out of his way to annoy you by just showing up everywhere, and you swear if you see that cat ONE MORE TIME-
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>>46456245
Ok then I can't wait for it. Do you have wip?
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>>46456294
But have ye no WOLVES?

>>46456352
Uh...he just did, bro.

And uh. Everyone hated it.
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>>46456363
Yeah, they're discounted the same as the rest of the stat ranks are.
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>>46456376
Alright, thanks. I assumed they would be, just wanted to check.
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>>46456359
Common agreement combined with our current companion rules.
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Out the way, best dog coming through.
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>>46456376
Oh, one more question. What should I use as the base for the strength and speed stats?
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>>46456416
I see you're on a jojo fix for the time being.

Where do you even get all these images, anyway? D'you just repost from multiple boards or actively scour an imgur or something?
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>>46456399
I thought common agreement was "only if QS said so"

>>46456375
I-I have a husky from Strike Witches, surely that counts!
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>>46456444
nope
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>>46456433
Current world records are generally my go to. So like, whoever the hell's the best weightlifter recorded and whoever's the fastest guy recorded (Still Bolt I'm pretty sure)
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>>46456138
So kill Inuart before he betrays Caim? What would you do with the walking brother complex? Find her a man that looks like her brother?
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>>46456474
I mean, is there a specific one you use? A Google search tells me the heaviest weight ever lifted was 6270 as a back lift, but that's far an away different from the others which are dead lifts at around 1000, so I just wanted to make sure of which one.

Oh, and iirc, EX in Agi based off of Bolt's speed is like Mach 17; are your reflexes boosted enough to let you act the same way at Mach 17 a normal human would at normal speed?
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>>46456436
From know your memes
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>>46456584
Hey, quick Arrowverse question. Is there a specific age you'll be if you take Welcome To Hell? Iirc, Thea was 12 at the time, so would you be like 11 or 10?
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>>46456565
Not sure, though pretty much any fate is better then getting necrofucked by your creepy stalker. Long as she isn't forced to reveal her feelings to Caim too suddenly you could probably talk her through things and help her out, least so she won't stab herself. Way too melodramatic.

>>46456575
No, that example wouldn't work as it's not official and was even expunged from the Guiness Book of records. I'd say that whatever you can find in a recent Guiness Book of Records or in Olympic competition data should work. https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-heaviest-weight-ever-lifted-by-a-human-being This is probably a good example of what you should use for Strength.
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>>46456669
In Inuart's defense, I'm pretty sure he didn't actually fuck Furiae's corpse. More that the Seed of Life they were in just absorbed them and constructed a child out of their merged flesh. I'm fairly certain Legna says something along those lines. It's still super creepy, of course, but a bit less so than the necrophilia angle.
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>>46456575
Not her, but the 1000's are generally used. Since the 6270 is both ridiculous and unconfirmed/discredited.

as far as I know Agi encompasses pretty much all speed, agility, and reflexes stuff. So, yeah, you would get your reflexes boosted to able to act at that speed. Ex in it is a little more than Mach 21 btw, not 17. Ridiculously fast.
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>>46456024
But would Servants be able to handle the rhythm? https://youtu.be/IpgukXzA_-E?t=152
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>>46456711
Inuart doesn't deserve to be defended.
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>>46456711
True, but I really feel like he deserves every insult for his crimes (largely being responsible for Nowe but he's also an idiot and shithead most of the time anyway).

>>46456575
Shit, sorry, missed the second part. Yes, you get reflexes to keep up with your Servant speed (Just to what your Agi stat gives, not to your total speed once you add your Servant speed to anything else)
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>>46456741
Well, you have me there. I guess my pedantry just compelled me to do it anyways.
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>>46456737
....I'm not sure. Took me 8 solid hours so....eventually? I feel most Servants would just break the controller soon enough. Fuck that boss so much. It is Satan in videogame form
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>>46456737
remember
You chose this future

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzJ2t3EanMQ
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So is Manah the only child in the chain who deserves to be horrifically tortured and murdered?
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>>46456866
Well, there's also Marche at least.
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>>46456866
No, of course not. All the children in Drakengard deserve to be tortured and murdered. There's not a single one of them that should be spared.
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>>46456866
Personally, I prefer just balefire'ing at that point. Torture and murder seems petty, retconning them out of existence is much better for everyone.
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>>46456914
Cavia certainly agrees.
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>>46456851
I don't know why but I can't help but love this.

>>46456866
Nah, I'm sure there are plenty of others. Even more if you count teens as kids. Or you could help and redeem her and Seere and all the others. That'd be nice huh? Cavia just needs more fuel for it's bonfire of broken dreams and shattered hopes.
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>>46456866
Manah is literally possessed by the devil most of the time. lalalalalalalala

No more than Shinji.
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>>46456945
Manah prayed for that devil and willingly goes along with it.
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>>46456851
>Not available in your country
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>>46456945
>>46456985
To be fair, there are definitely circumstances surrounding her choice. Her mother was abusive and favoured Seere and Seere was a gigantic bellend towards her. That combined with Drakengard being what it is, there is at least some reason (Though not justiciation) for why she did what she did. That all goes out the fucking window with Drakengard 2 of course.
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>>46456866
How quick people are to forget Joffery Waters just because the other little shits have magic involved.
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>>46457038
It's actually that I've never watched or read that series so I don't know who he is.
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>>46456942
It's got nothing on Homura's Levan Polka

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwiuX2OAvJg

Though I suspect you might be baised
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>>46457026
In Drakengard 2 she has some kind of weird fucking amnesia that is never explained. Then when she realizes what she's been doing the whole game she has a major psychological freakout and falls into absolute despair, but is saved by Nowe, who is in love with her despite knowing nothing about her and her total refusal to explain or reciprocate up until that point, and who barely knows what the plot is or why he's doing anything.

Honestly killing her is basically a mercy. You will save her from the tragic idiocy that is Drakengard and her own role within it.
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>>46457094
It's somehow dumber and yet even more enjoyable.

I admit nothing

>>46457113
Yup, despite being well known by everyone as the leader of the empire at the time and even seen as a leader because of that very fact and followed by former empire loyalists, she never remembers till it's too late.

Really, the only non-'so bad/dumb I love it' moment (Seere making an army of laser golems that disappear after one cutscene, literal hover science castle staffed by dragons, Gismor and everything about him) in D2 is the stuff Caim and/or Angelus are involved in, particularly their last scene. Everything else is just shit, boring, tedious or dull. Or plain stupid.
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To whichever anon showed that first video, I thank you. I've discovered perfection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmwaeqtpp9s
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>>46457400
I... can't... look... away!
Anti-Mind Corruption Perks do nothing in the face of this madness!!
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>>46457400
WHAT HAVE I WROUGHT!
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>>46457113
> Nowe is in love with her.
> Honestly killing her is basically a mercy.
Y'know I feel like I want to argue but
I can't
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>>46455606
Spacebattles, please stop trying to drive away people with more talent than you all have. it's pathetic.
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So, /jc/, quick question.
Has Mawaru Penguindrum been claimed by anyone already?
Because I've been getting the creative itch again, lately.
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>>46457624
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>>46457675
Not that I know of. Go for it!
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