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Infinity General: HYPE Edition

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Infinity is a 28mm scale skirmish game where lovely anons post photos of the new rules so we can all be jews and not give CB our hard-earned shekels.

>All the rules are for free. Buying the books is only relevant for fluff:
http://www.infinitythegame.com/archive.php

>Provisional Catalog where you can look at pretty pictures of the miniatures you're thinking of getting:
http://www.infinitythegame.com/catalogue/

>Rules wiki:
http://wiki.infinitythegame.com/en/Main_Page

>Official Army Builder:
http://www.infinitythegame.com/army

>New Official Army Builder that doesn't work properly:
https://army.infinitythegame.com/

>Token Generator:
http://inf-dice.ghostlords.com/markers/

>N3 Hacker Helper:
http://www.captainspud.com/n3hacking/

>N3 Reverse Index Web App (so you could compare units across factions)
http://n3index.bastian-dornauf.de/

>Batreps:
http://www.youtube.com/#/playlist?list=PLzrPO7KIAtwXlOUh545nq21WQaW7YxuGc

>Terrain:
http://pastebin.com/Hy9SRkmJ

>Faction Rundown:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/mqaaf5fosmti5b4/Infinity_Faction_Rundown_v.1.3.rtf

>All Consolidated Rules:
https://www.mediafire.com/?xm5aqb4sdx4g446

>Operation Icestorm Scan (beginner missions)
https://mega.nz/#!AkkG0ZZA!CE-YzCWIWVROcSnnlkZI8SMWxWoNb1LkFbWI-LamYR8

>Latest news is the Economically Questionable RPG Kickstarter
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/modiphius/corvus-bellis-infinity-roleplaying-game

>The Actual Faction Poll
http://strawpoll.me/5146634

>Scans (More Needed):
http://www.mediafire.com/download/a6nel34mw0la3bb/Infinity+1st+edition+Rulebook.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wd3pbtpjp5w9dig/Infinity+-+Corvus+Belli+S.L.L.+-+Human+Sphere.pdf

>Check out Operation: Flamestrike
http://flamestrike.warconsole.com

>Previous Thread:
>>46368600
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>>46379578
I'd give them my money IF THEY DIDN'T LET PEOPLE BUY 8 COPIES AND SELL OUT HSN3
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cool nomad stuff

-20pt interventors with KHD
-kusinagi gets spitfire +special operative
-sen massacre can haris and core with jaguars
-gecko get swc drop and duo
-bran gets Special op and a BS profile
-custodies get harris (can have a healer and kusinagi in that haris lol) and get more device options
-zero KHD 21pts
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>>46379642
le happy reseller faec :^)
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>>46379712
I tried posting about buying it for more than retail and got no responses. Will try at the bits bash.

At least someone took up the screenshot mantle. No other site allows pics of the book lel
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Shit, QK got hit really hard.
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>>46379700
What device options for custodiers?
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>>46379821
assault, I think it has an upgrade couldn't fully read it
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>>46379775
Yeah, most of the bigger facebook groups have a stick up their arse so they don't piss off CB
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>>46379821
Looks like AHD with an upgrade. Also Pitcher is the new word for marker
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Most MO stuff is pretty cool, especially the amazing new Knights Montesa and Knights Sandiago, both of which got a amazing selection of new stuff.
The new Order Sergeant stuff is also very nice, especially the two HRL options, and the spitfire Crusader Brethren is certainly welcome.
That said, I'm at best indifferent about the Black Friars and the fact that Duo on the Father-Knight is tied to the boarding shotgun profile instead of something sensible.
And I am really pissed about the nerf to De Fersen. Assault Hacking Device? The shit? Who cares about that?
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>>46379642
im the dude posting pics. yeah this was a fucking problem. they sold out in about 2 hours.
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>>46379700
might as well make notes for YJ:
- Pheasant no longer has mono and gets DA CCW. MSR version has no DA, gets Marksmanship X in addition to MSV1 (as before). All versions gain Free Agent and a bonus +2 to CC.
- Base Keisotsu are now 8 points. FO option is still 10 points.
- CG gets FO option. CG w/ kuang shi controller is 1 point cheaper
- Kuang Shi are same as before
- Raiden HRL is 2 points more expensive and gain antipersonnel mines (as well as V:Courage, as we knew before)
- Shan Ji no longer has normal hacking device. Gained Assault hacking profile as well as a HRL+light shotgun profile. Prices are hard to make out.
- Bao has across the board price reductions (1 point each, but it's hard to see) as well as biometric visor and haris.
- Crane has across the board price reductions.
- Most JSA units look to be the same stats with a few haris/duo additions, but it's hard to see from the blurry images.
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>>46379907
I was pissed at De Fersen but he has the insane Trinity program for the KHD. He can still do Spotlight too for Classifieds, you just got to use someone else to fairy dust now.
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>>46379805
Thorakitai gets Religious for some reason. Only SMGCR options keep 360 Visors...but everything else gets cheaper by 2 or so points. They also get Marksman Rifle, HMG, and Feuerbach options. I'm actually okay with this change.
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>>46379932
kempetai is linkable keisotsu
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Hey is this Ariadna list decent? I feel like it's missing something.
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Any chance we can get a pic of the new posthuman rules? or some solid confirmation of the changes?
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>>46379914
I showed up after the last one sold, pointed out they had a box left, they put it away then like an hour ago they put more out and my friend I sent was like 10 minutes late too. Bad day, regret sleeping in.
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>keisotsu gets cheaper
>Zhan Shi stays the same price

Seriously why bother with them in vanilla now?
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The Overdron is pretty amazing, I'd say. Comfy statline, good selection of guns, TWO tinbots and overall cheap.
Xeodron Haris and a Overdron for maximum Dron. Four TAGs with room for support personel? My pants are so tight right now.
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>>46380184
slightly worried about the concept of a burst 3 plasma sniper. less so due to the whole line of sight things and not being able to prone, but still, there's a sniper you can't ignore and can't remove.
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>>46380184
If Tinbot A and B are Deflectors. Tinbot D is Albedo. Tinbot E is Spotter. Then What's Tinbot C?
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>>46379999
It's missing an order in the first group, some SWC, and 40 highlanders.
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>>46380328
Like in the Unidron link, you mean? Burst 3 plasma snipers with tinbots everywhere.
In all seriousness, I'd probably go with the 57pts dual HRL, the k1 Xeodrons can deal with stuff that can't handle.
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>>46380369
Neurokinetics.
There's a Yan Huo with 2 ML that has it.
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Is in the book something about the Uragan weapon?
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So are there any dudes in this setting, or is it all cheesecake pinup?
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>>46380506
Drakios's Steel Phalanx expands to the limit.
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>>46380451
is there? There isn't a Yan Huo in any of the pages our kindly anon put up.
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>>46380448
didn't actually realise the unidrons had a plasma sniper, but then again I don't play against CA, like, ever, so it's not a thing I concern myself with. that worries me a little more honestly becase unidrons are remotes right? doesn't that mean you could supportware them some marksmanship?
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>>46380448
Is that 57? I thought it was 67.

Anyway, Onyx is shaping up to be pretty great
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>>46380580
Look at the very top of >>46378141
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Neurocinetics is such a double edged sword, you basically trade B2 in active for B2 in ARO. Not sure if want.
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>>46380644
welp, that's it, ML Yan Huo ordered.
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>>46380684

Seeing how ML are essentially the strongest ARO in the game, B2 of it in reaction is terrifying for so many reasons
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e NOT allowed to do!

Taqeul Officers MI, Cube, Regular

Symbiont:

MOV 4-2 CC 14 BS 13 PH 11 WIP 14 ARM 3 BTS 6 W 1 S 2 AVA 2

Regeneration, V: Courage

Inactive Symbiont:

MOV 4-4 CC 13 BS 13 PH 10 WIP 14 ARM 0 BTS 0 W 1 S 2 AVA -

Regeneration, V: Courage

Chain of Command....Combi, symbiobugs....pistol, knife....34, 0

Chain of Command.... Viral Combi, symbiobugs....pistol, knife....40, 0

Chain of Command....Spitfire, symbiobugs....pistol, knife....40, 1.5

Lt. Advanced Command....Combi, symbiobugs....pistol, knife....34, 0

Lt. Advanced Command....Viral Combi, symbiobugs....pistol, knife....40, 0

Lt. Advanced Command....Spitfire, symbiobugs....pistol, knife....40, 1.5
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>>46379700

>Señor Deadpool has themed thugs
>Custodier/Healer/Kusanagi for purest Bakunin threeway
>all this other shit

I need a Cassandra model now. I don't like the current sculpt at all.
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Tohaa Kaauri Sentinels LI, Regular

MOV 4-4 CC 12 BS 11 PH 10 WIP 13 ARM 0 BTS 3 W 1 S 1 AVA 4

Multispectral Visor L1, Biometric Visor L2, Sixth Sense L2

Submachine Gun, 2 Nanopulsers, Nullifer....Pistol, Electric Pulse....12, 0

Boarding shotgun, Nullifer....Pistol, Electric Pulse....15, 0

Sniper rifle....Pistol, Electric Pulse....19, 0.5

Pheroware T: Nimbus Sphere....Combi, Nullifer....Pistol, Electric Pulse....17, 0
ECTROS

Regular, HI, Hackable

MOV4-4 CC19 BS13 PH14 WIP13 ARM3 BTS6 W2 S2 AVA4

Symbiont • F:T • V: Courage • Kinematika L1

MOV4-4 CC19 BS12 PH11 WIP13 ARM0 BTS0 W1 S2

Symbiont • F:T • V: Courage

ECTROS • Viral Combi, Nanopulser • Pistol, Shock CCW • 43 pts / 0 SWC

ECTROS • HMG, Nanopulser • Pistol, Shock CCW • 48 pts / 2 SWC

ECTROS • Vulkan Shotgun, Nanopulser • Pistol, Shock CCW • 38 pts / 0 SWC

ECTROS Lt • Viral Combi, Nanopulser • Pistol, Shock CCW • 43 pts / 0 SWC
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>>46380708
I am still not convinced B2 in reactive against B3+ is better than throwing B2 against what will commonly be B1 ARO
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>>46380783
>Ectros buffs
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>>46380684
>>46380708

Eh, it's not as if the 2ML version is going to be all that actively used in the first place compared to the HMC.

Now we got a ML turrent that is actually a brutal ARO piece compared to most/all of our actual snipers.
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Any changes to Penny?
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GORGOS

Regular, TAG, Hackable

MOV6-4 CC18 BS14 PH16 WIP13 ARM7 BTS9 W3 S7 AVA1

Symbiont • Advanced ECM • Kinematika L1


GORGOS (inactive pilot)CC15 BS12 PH11 WIP13 ARM1 BTS0 W1 S2
Symbiont
Spitfire, Pulzar, Chaksa • Pistol, Knife

MOV4-4

GORGOS • AP Spitfire, Flammenspeer, Pulzar, +1 Chaksa Peripheral A • Viral CCW • 86 pts / 2 SWC

GORGOS • AP Spitfire, Flammenspeer, Pulzar, +1 Chaksa Peripheral B • Shock CCW • 82 pts / 2 SWC

CHAKSA PERIPHERAL

MOV6-4 CC12 BS11 PH12 WIP11 ARM0 BTS0 W1
S2

Mimetism, G: Sync


• Pistol, Knife • 7 ptsStun Grenades
CHAKSA PERIPHERAL A • Light Shotgun,

CHAKSA PERIPHERAL B • Pulzar • Pistol, Knife • 4 pts
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>>46380849

Wait what changed

>>46380791

Because dual ML in active turn is literally just a better auto cannon. HMC is for beating the shit out of stuff in active turn anyway
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Can you shoot at tinbots?
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>>46380856
This. Even with the buffs/price reductions, the Pheasant MSR is still expensive, as is the Bao MSR. The Guilang MSR and Ninja MSR are very expensive as well, so it fits thematically that YJ gets its prime ARO piece in the form of a HI.

As far as I can tell not many people chose the ML version of the Yan Huo (HRMC is sexy, even if it's on a 4-2 platform). So this at least gives the model some reason for existing.
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>>46380911

Holy shit I need a smug tohaa picture right god damn now
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IGAO
Regular, Frenzy, SK
MOV4-4 CC22 BS11 PH13 WIP13 ARM0 BTS3 W1 S2 AVA2

CH: Camouflage • Infiltration • Kinematika L1 • MA3 • I-Kohl L1 • Multiterrain


SWC / 0 25 pts • DA CCW • Pistol,Stun Grenades IGAO • Boarding Shotgun,

IGAO • Combi Rifle, Nanopulser Stun Grenades • Pistol, DA CCW • 27 pts / 0 SWC
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>>46380937
Nope, they're markers.
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>>46380937
No. They're just equipment markers.
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>>46380626
Looks like 57 to me, and rocket launchers are usually pretty cheap, but even 67 wouldn't be too shabby, to be honest.
And, yeah, Onyx is looking pretty hot. Lots of sexy stuff in there, from a load of nasty TAGS to cheap link infantry and flexible specialists.Good stuff.
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>>46380966

I don't get it
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>>46380911
>AP Spitfire and large template nanopulsar
Hot damn. Did its armor go up too?

>Kinematika on a TAG
But why
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>>46380918
Cost cuts on every ectros loadout
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KAELTAR

Regualr, LI

MOV4-4 CC14 BS11 PH11 WIP14 ARM1 BTS3 W1 S2 AVA:2

Fireteam: Triad • Corahtar Discipline L1

KAELTAR [same profiles, same cost]
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>>46380998

Nice desu ne

>>46380997

Yup armor went up to 7. Also dat advanced ECM

Now it dodges on what, 13?
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>>46380998
And cc buffs
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Is it just me, or did the photos feature only one profile for Moiras? Missed page? Or a plain "The rest is unchanged"?
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>>46381055

Only new or changed profiles are listed to save space, I think.
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>>46381055
seems a few pages were like that, like the last page of YJ changes. Didn't list the other options for Yan Huo or Hac Tao. Strange, though, that they listed the Guilang minelayer, even though it's exactly the same as it was previously.
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>>46381029
No, Kinematica gives it +1" to dodge movement.

Hyper-dynamics would have actually made some amount of sense.
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SAKIEL

Regular, Frenzy, LI

CC14 BS12 PH11 WIP13 ARM2 BTS0 W1 S2 AVA:6

Symbiont • F:T • V: Courage

CC14 BS12 PH11 WIP13 ARM0 BTS0 W1 S2

Symbiont • F:T • V: Courage

SAKIEL • Combi, Nimbus Plus Grenades • 18 pts / 0 SWC (~2 points to all former Swarm Grenade profiles)

SAKIEL • Combi, Nullifer • 18 pts / 0.5 SWC

SAKIEL • Combi, Light Rocket Launcher • 23 pts / 1 SWC

SAKIEL • Viral Combi, Nimbus Plus Genades • 24 pts / 0 SWC

SAKIEL • Spitfire • 23 pts / 1.5 SWC

SAKIEL Forward Observer • Combi, Nimbus Plus Grenades • 19 pts / 0 SWC

SAKIEL Paramedic • Combi, Nimbus Plus Grenades • 20 pts / 0 SWC

SAKIEL • Viral Combi, Nimbus Plus Grenades • 24 pts / 0 SWC
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>>46381087
Minelayer is a human sphere skill, but Guilang is a core book unit
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>>46380991
+2CC, I-Kohl, Flash Grenades swapped for Stun, and AP CCW to DA on the Shotgun profile
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>>46381138
>Sakiel even cheaper
Sure why not
It's not like I ever really bothered to throw Swarm Grenades anyhow
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Another important question is how much new fluff is there?
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So wait, did djanzaban lose the HMG option? It's under upgrades, but it looks like with some other profiles like the Fiday, the whole thing got cleaned up.

That kind of sucks.
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>>46381138

>frenzy instead of impetuous

Doom guy yelling.jpg

>>46381179

Legitimately neat

>>46381106

Oh...yeah what the fuck? Guess it'll help all that engaging I do with the gorgos
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>>46381138

>18 point frenzy 2 wound specialists

Just artichoke my shit up Senpai
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Combat groups obviously not done yet, but how does this look for general play/ITS/20x20?

Group 1 14 / 3 / 2
DOZER (Traktor Mul Control Device) Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (14)
KAZAK DOKTOR Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (13)
LINE KAZAK Lieutenant Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (9)
LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (9)
LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (9)
WARDRIVER Hacker (Hacking Device) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 19)
TANKHUNTER AP HMG, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 35)
TRAKTOR MUL Katyusha MRL / Electric Pulse. (1 | 11)
TRAKTOR MUL (Total Reaction) Uragan MRL / Electric Pulse. (1 | 18)
SCOUT (Forward Observer) Ojotnik, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (30)
SCOUT AP Sniper Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 29)
UXÍA McNEILL (Covert Action) (CH: Limited Camouflage, Superior Infiltration, Specialist Troop) Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Smoke Grenades / 2 Assault Pistols, AP CCW, Knife. (27)
DESPERADO Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / 2 Heavy Pistols, CC Weapon. (18)
DESPERADO Submachine Gun, Smoke Grenades / 2 Heavy Pistols, CC Weapon. (13)
HANDLER Rifle, Smoke Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (10)
ANTIPODES AP CC Weapon. (5)
AIRBORNE RANGER (Forward Observer) Submachine Gun / Pistol, AP CC Weapon, Knife. (21)

5.5 SWC | 300 Points
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I can't see the points cost of the farzan's option, anyone with the book can post them?
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>>46381265
They're not including core book profiles. Only the Human Sphere Marksman Rifle profile is there.
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so now that they've lost linkable is there any reason to take azra'il over janissaries?
they have 1 better armour. their hmg is ap. the models look amazing.
but, they're slower, can't take missile launchers(though the new burst fueurbach makes that less of an issue to me), can't link, no specialists, larger silhouette so harder to hide, lower PH, lower CC, and higher points cost.
I love the models but i'm just not seeing why I'd bring them to the table.

I like the idea of Sekban duos though. I'll have to try them out.
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>>46381376

So why include stuff like the daylami profiles? They're the exact same?

Apologies if I'm being retarded. I really have never looked at the core book for unit profiles, only the online army builder, so things are kind of odd to me.
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>Minor correction, Ectros HMG is 45 points, not 48. My mistake.
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>>46381435
Daylami aren't a core book profile.

The N3 core book only replaced the original second edition core book, and added a few new units here and there. Profiles added in the original Human Sphere book and Campaign Paradiso were only given small changes and point adjustments via PDF. Human Sphere N3 is a proper update for the units, skills and rules that were added in both second edition expansions.
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>>46380905
According to IJW on the forums

Penthesilea has an unchanged profile but gains substantially from changes to I-Kohl which is now a CC Special Skill. This means that the MODs now apply to any FtF Roll against her CC Attack and not just to the opponent's CC Attribute - so if she moves into combat with someone and they shoot in ARO they're on -12 before range bands (-6 for ODD, -6 for I-Kohl L2). Even nastier, I-Kohl has an exception allowing it to be used when declaring Dodge or Engage, not just CC Attack - if she's within 4" of the active trooper she can declare Engage (albeit with PH9 because of the motorbike), but they'll be on -12 BS before range bands again, or -6 if they try to Dodge to avoid her.
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>>46381495

>ay mi dios, it seems the Americans are only taking the Sakiel instead of the Ectros
>I know, let's cut the HMG Ectros cost by 14%
>magnifico! Let us siesta now
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>>46381495
>>46381179
>>46381245
>>46381106
>>46381003
>>46380997
>>46380966
>>46380911
>>46380783
>>46380733
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs
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>>46381689
Might as well finish it off.
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>>46381636

>New ikohl rules

Could it be that CB is finally starting to give us fans with permaboners for knife fighting something meaningful to play with?
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>>46381395
Not really. Because 2 Hafzas can link with a Jannisary core team. Also the 1 extra ARM isnt a noticible advantage.

I'm also losing some love for the KTS. Still a solid profile, but Hafzas can no longer link with them. Sekban do look great now
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>MO nerfed
Bwahahaha
Eat shit christfags
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>>46381858
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>>46381858
U wot m8?
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>>46379700
>>46380760

Wait, wait, hold up. Looks like it says Kusanagi can only join a Core of Moiras, a Core of Moiras with a Healer, or a Haris of Custodiers, but no mention of Custodier Haris with a Healer. Might be you have to go 2 Custodiers +1 Healer or 2 Custodiers + Cassandra.
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Posthumans are fucking hype, Mk 1 cheaper, MK2 can stay Camo, Mk 3 cheaper, Mk 4 has Asura armor with an HMG or an HRL for 20 points. Mk 5 is either a 17 PT Mk 12 with Marksmanship X or a 10 point FO.

Jumper now just lets any Proxy declare Active in ARO and react fully. You're only penalized if two Proxies are seen by the same guy. Isolation no longer traps you, and you don't need Netrods to survive. Oh, and if you do have a netrod, if they kill all of your Proxies, the Posthuman still contributes it's Order by literally cheerleading on your data network. So be aggressive with your Posthumans. And they all just take up one slot.
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Guardian is a chart like Martial Arts:
L1, Atk MOD 0, Opp MOD -3, DAM +1
L2, Atk MOD +3, Opp MOD 0, DAM +1
L3, Atk MOD 0, Opp MOD -3, DAM +2
L4, Atk MOD 0, Opp MOD 0, DAM +3
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Could someone please explain the Black Friars to me? I mean the drop bear variant, the sniper is obviously just a poor man's Nisse.
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>>46381944
Hell yes. I will be needing to re-brew ALEPH to have a hilarious do-everything posthuman
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I cant read the farzan, how much do they cost?
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>>46382137
25, 27, 29
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>>46380911
Did it lose the second flammenspeer or is that a typo?
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>>46381858
Where, exactly? Father DeFersen, maybe, but otherwise MO got a lot of nice stuff.
Just look at the shit Montesas and Santiagos got. The staple Magisters got cheaper and better in melee, too. More options for Sergeants and Crusaders, multiple Duo links, Black Friars and more. I don't really see any real nerf.
Am I missing something?
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>>46381944
>MK2 can stay Camo

Just to clarify, you mean I can come out of HD as a To Camo marker?

Hype for being able to use the sniper from HD as a reactive piece either way.
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>>46382207
>Father DeFersen,
what happen to Fersen?
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>>46382207

Mobility Scooter Joan got a price bump and no corresponding improvements I believe, Joan was always crazy cheap though
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>>46382207
You can also link 1-2 Hospitaller or santiago into core Magister Links
Joan can join links of up to 4 santiago/hospital, she no longer has to link with only 4 knights

>>46382235
He lost his normal normal hacking device and gained Assault Hackin Device (Upgrade: Trinity). I wouldn't say a complete nerf, but different to what you are used to. He will wreak other hackers rather than apply fairy dust firewalls.
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>>46382235
Lost the standard Hacking Device for an Assault version. So Fairy Dusting on Lt order is out. Got a 2pts discount and Trinity (a B3 D16 ARO hack with Shock) as compensation.
He's better as an agressive hacker now, but his utility for baseline MO is shot to hell.
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>>46382310
So as an example you could have the following as a 5 man core link

Hospitallier (Doctor) Multi Rifle
Hospitallier HMG
Magister Missile Launcher
2x Magister Light Shotgun
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>>46381257

Any summaries perchance?
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>>46382310
>>46382352
That doesn't sound too bad. And Fairy Dust would have broken him out of the team anyways. Still got Fusiliers, Spec Sergeants, and EVO bots to do it
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Anyone able to post the new fireteam rule changes?
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>>46380760
Just use the healer anon , she look close enought with some recolour
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>>46381944
I chose Aleph because of posthumans, only to discover they were shit. This update makes me a happy man.
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any pages from mercenaries? I'm curious
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>>46382014

Hunt those damn dirty speculo killers
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>>46382687
Is the bio visor confirmed to work on impersonation?
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>>46382682

Are Druze available to everyone now? Would be a terrible shame if most vanilla lists can't use that fancy pre order mini after all.
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Yes. lvl 1 reduces the modifier by 3 and lvl 2 reduces it to 0
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>In America you have to work 8 hours a day with no beach break.
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I've seen some images of some new iss models but are there any other new sculpts they were showing?
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>>46382762

Yes it is. L1 reduces the penalty to -3, L2 reduces it to 0

Remember this stacks with range mods
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>>46382762
Yes. It's the fuck holos and fuck impersonators visor, in much the same way MSV is the fuck camo and fuck smoke visor.
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>>46382763

She makes a great War driver
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>>46382953

Still a shell game with the holos though?

>>46382969

True that. Would be irony if Druze are available to vanilla Ariadna, not that Cossacks would mind in particular anyway.
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>>46382763
I hope not, CB have given a lot of QK's stuff to other factions, first the Iguana, Alguaciles and Mobile Brigada; now it's the Druze?
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>>46383040

Wait a minute. Isn't it QK looting stuff from the Nomads instead?
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As always with Nomads the truth is probably somewhere in the middle...
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Well, Pheasants at least seem to have become meh units as opposed to outright bad. MadTraps look fun, the shotty CoC option seems cheap enough, Haris is always nice to have and the sniper isn't just an outright worse Bao for a higher price anymore.

Bao getting cheaper options is also good, those could be used to fill out a haris link. Shame about the removal of the boarding shotty X-Visor, though. I loved that thing.

FO Celestial Guards and those new Wu Mings make me feel strange. I felt this feeling before when the new Su Jian stats were revealed, but I don't know what it is.

>>46383106
Not looting. Hiring. Corregidorites love money, and they're willing to shoot people you don't like if you give them money.
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>>46382137

Can anyone read what the Al Hawwa' has?

I want to know what kind of hacking device he has.
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>FO Celestial Guards and those new Wu Mings make me feel strange. I felt this feeling before when the new Su Jian stats were revealed, but I don't know what it is.

That's called infatuation Anon.
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>>46383337
>>46383437

FO CG at least makes the shotgun a more reasonable choice. Also the apparent cheaper KSCD is nice.

Wu Ming with Chain Rifle is also awesome. Hope the Zu Yong gets one eventually.

I wonder what new fluff YJ got?
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>>46380384
When you say 40 highlanders do you mean 45th highlanders? Are you thinking I should change out some of my line troop choices for them? I suppose I could change my points around to use up more SWC and get another order.
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>>46383516
No, like you need to take some stuff out so you can fit 40 bloodthirsty scotts
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>>46383106
Are you saying that Muslims are all theives? Damn you're racist
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>>46383566
You can't steal from thieves man. At that point its just borrowing.
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>>46383516
Like this.

http://army.infinitythegame.com/index.html?l=MwBgTAPqIQ0grgJwO4EMIEYAsBSMAOMHATkJwEIMM8B2YkmgVgqtvuKZZFvwd3PpgaNBtwG0RHMYOGiKMyTWkS54oYu4ABBap1T5K/WtlG9Sg+t2HzxjRZM2zWp/bu2rl09eWfH31x4OPkE42v7uXr7Bbi4RflEBkSFx3EA=
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Book anon here, I'm back. Eating though so I can only take questions. Put in your requests though.
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>>46383630
Please describe the effect of fury (impetuous) on fireteams. For reference being in a fireteam previously removed all fury.
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>Azrails no longer linkable
Welp, time to kill myse-
>Sekban now +3 BTS, 13 BS
>Asawira 9 BTS, cheaper, Hassassin viable now
>Djanbazan get A FUCKING MARKSMAN SHOCK RIFLE

PRAISE ALLAH, FOR HE IS MERCIFUL.
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>>46383566
Muslim means follower of Islam, people of all races and walks of life can join.

And should.

الله أكبر
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>>46383647
The same as it was. If you have fury, you lose it when the team is formed. If you leave the team and have fury, you regain the fury.
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>>46383630
What is Forward Deployment Lvl 2?
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>>46383720
Another 4 inches>>46383720
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>>46383502
Shotgun CG was always good in links as a short range ARO choice, but FO is glorious.

As for fluff, ISS will probably start ritualistically eating Japanese babies or something. I dunno, we've gone so far into mustache twirling villainy that I'm starting to enjoy it.

>>46383516
Don't worry, that anon was just trolling. Spamming dozens of highlanders to win has been a popular meme recently. It's not even the proper way to spam, massed highlanders are easily countered.
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>>46383630
Does the Gorgos have 1 or 2 flammenspeer?
Are there any changes to iKohl?
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>>46383661
Fucking hell. This kind of shit is why I hate religions, at least Christians stay in their own countries...
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>>46383731
> Eating Japanese Babies
> Not turning future political dissidents into living, breathing, chain-colt wielding crazy koalas

Please have you agent badge on my desk by the morning.
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>>46383750
>gorgos
just one
>ikol
looking ti up dont know the old rules

>>46383720
8 inches beyond regular deployment
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>>46383554
>>46383611
Oh wow damn. Now that's a swarmy list. Do you just move your dudes through cover and drown your enemies in dead Scots? I would love to see a picture/video of someone playing a game with this list. Wouldn't this list get really boring after a couple of games? Then you're stuck with about $300 of 6-point troops. Is this the list for pissed off Ork players who quit 40k or something?
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>>46383630
any changes for Makauls... plz..
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>>46382880
>ay caramba I need a siesta
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>>46383630
What can you tell us about the Nexus from the CA/Onyx? Excited to see what our new spec-op will be based on.
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>>46383798
It would get boring halfway through one game. It would take a really long time, and either the opponent's defensive line would break or it wouldn't.
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>>46383040
>>46383106

It's >>46383337
Nomads are pretty tight with their allies, so QK gets to hire some Corregidor hardasses and tech. I think Ariadna might have some Nomad units as well in one of their sectorials.

Kind of similar to how both YJ and PanO can second ALEPH models to their teams.
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>>46383780
Thanks, could you also look up Nimbus plus grenades?
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>>46383857
It got posted last thread. They're slightly beefed up line troops. BS12, PH11, hyper-dynamics 1 and courage. Options for a hacker with a nullifier, a specialist, and a spitfire+nanoscreen. Point cost is mid-10s to mid-20s.
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>>46383823
>Makauls
Alot i'll get a pic for you in a few minutes.

>>46383857
pic related

>>46383886
looking....
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>>46383823
I-khol already confirmed buffed, dunno what else
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>>46383917
i've heard the profile for fueurbach has changed. can you confirm?
thanks!
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>>46383754
NOW they do. Christians did the military spread before, when their religion was oh about a thousand years old. And then again at about 1500. Islam's about 1500 years old now. It had its terrible twos back when it was founded and now it's in its edgelord teen phase. Pity, it was the nice kid on the theistic faiths block (bad neighborhood though that is) until pretty recently all things considered.

In infinity, Haqq is the Islam that cleaned itself up for college apps.
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>>46384064

I think the ellipses were his way of sort of implying the counter to his statement, thus invoking irony. It may have been a social commentary on our current state of worldly affairs presented as an ironic statement for the purposes of comedy.
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>>46383886
I can't find anything that mentions I-kohl. I'm using glossary here and its not listed.

and yeah im not seeing shit on anything nimbus+. maybe i need to tear in and read it through.

>>46384004
its damage 14 blast, or damage 15 direct hit. b1. hmg range.
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>>46384113
Frankly it's nice to see that criticism of Christianity today is something that is somewhat socially acceptable. If only the other semitic religions were a little more tolerant.
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>>46384120
>its damage 14 blast, or damage 15 direct hit. b1. hmg range.

That's for the explosive profle right, it still has B2 AP+DA yeah?
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>>46384187
i dont play haqq bro. check >>46379643 here. one of the pics might be in the archive.
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Lasqi w/ Viral Sniper Rifle
Sekban w/ Heavy Rocket Launcher
Haqqislam Support Box
Ragik w/ Spitfire
Kameel Remote unit box
Al Hawwa Hacker
Haqqislam starter pack

Anything I need or drop before I place an order?
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>>46384120
>feuerbach
>b1
Wait, what?
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>>46384228

Lasiq with rifle is still totes magotes familia. Drop that guy midfield in cover and in suppression mode, and watch your opponent throw a tantrum over a model at -9 to hit spitting viral ammo everywhere with an xvisor
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>>46384188
Depends on where you are. If you're in a red state in the USA it's most certainly not tolerated in public.
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>>46384218
oh derp, thats flammenspeer
brach is hmg range. Either B2 dam 14 AP+DA or B1 Explosive dam 14.
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>>46384267
Sweet. That and the Rocket Launcher dude I am getting purely because I love how the models look.

Glad to at least one is good on the table as well.
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>>46384274
More tolerated than anywhere in the world where Islam is the majority.
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>>46384313

Also, all my heart for ragiks. They feel like as much of a gamble as a fiday, but I've have a spitfire rajik shred a tag. I've had many more screw up their deployment and become worthless in my deployment zone.

Never forget to EVO or hack to get that +3 to drop, because your opponent sure will never forget to ftf hack your transport, pretty much making the model a waste of points.
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>>46383823
makauls
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>>46384403

>Eclipse Grenades

Looks like that's what they're calling ZeroV Grenades now, I saw these on the Chimera as well. Makes sense, they already have Zero Vision zones and MSV can see through that, but somehow ZV grenades block MSV. So now they're just Eclipse Smoke Templates to avoid confusion.
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>>46384274

Mate, I live in Dallas, and I can assure you I haven't been lynched for criticizing Christianity, I have has violence threatened against me for criticizing Islam back home in Australia, but so far Americans don't give a shit.
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>>46384374
So be really careful with when and were I place my Firefly looking dude? Check.

Any word on when the resculpt of the Scorpion Tank is coming? I saw a picture of it and knew I needed it.
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>>46384454
Yep. All and all the book looks great. Really looking forward to it.

>>46384487
Most christians in the states have a cushy life so they don't really want to upset that by doing something violent and ending up in jail. They will however, log any criticism and use that fuel their persecution complex. Generally, youre chances of getting hurt over bad mouthing a religion depend on how good of a life the people practicing the religion have.
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>>46384504

>Ragik

You certainly want to be careful where you put him, but transport hacking, sadly, can be done from anywhere on the table. Also make sure not to land within the ZOC of anything, that will give you a rough day.

But man, dropping in on a mob of cheerleaders, gun blazing, is a glorious feeling.

>Scorpion tank
>Khanate sectorial

My friends are sick of hearing me ask about those things. I wish I knew.
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Any changes to Ninjas at all? Aside from KHD I mean.
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any new unit in Haqq except Ayyar?
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>>46384504
We've needed Maggie's resculpt for a long time.
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>>46384504

>Any word on when the resculpt of the Scorpion Tank is coming?

I'm too lazy to shop in a Maghariba Guard.
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>>46384545
I guess that's why the Saudi royal family have a really great track record of not killing people for defaming Islam.
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>>46384637
check the links above. the entire unit entry should have been posted.

>>46384566
nothing changed.
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>>46384670

Also a fookin base with the model. Makes me rage that they sell you a model with no base, and to get one it's going to cost another 10 bucks or so unless you want to be ghetto and stick it on a mini cd or something.
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>>46384720
Theyre a 1% but it goes back to the point that its dependent on if theres a chance for blowback on to them, and there isn't.
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>>46384723

damn. thanks. was hoping for SJ or Climb+. Guess I'll take the KHD and go Imp some cunts.
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>>46384778
Ninjas were in a pretty nice spot already, so it's not terribly surprising.
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>>46384795
Yeah, just always felt they were a little expensive with not a huge variety of options / tools. KHD fixes that though I guess, a second specialist is always welcome.

I just wanted them to gain rules that fit ninja 'fluff' - ala jumping across rooftops lol
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>>46384749
Yes, I totally want to murder my neighbors and eat their children and pets, but am only not doing so because of the possible blowback. That's a completely accurate explanation for why people do or don't do things.
>>
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>>46384844
For why people don't lash out or do something to fuck someone else up at provocation? Yeah, it is. Fear response (or the lack thereof) and criminality are pretty tightly correlated. Nothing to fear? Do whatever awful thing you want when prodded.
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>>46384545
>They will however, log any criticism and use that fuel their persecution complex
Basically what I wanted to point out. Just because people don't burn you alive for something doesn't mean that it's 'tolerated'.

Though I suppose it is an improvement.
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Pics of the fluff pls kind sirs?
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>>46385262
Here, now we can go back to important things
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I'm starting haqqislam. Which starter set and blisters should I buy? What are the downsides of each sectorial?
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What are the new rules for Striga and NBW?
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>>46379578

That CCW.. Why are the finger ridges on the side without the blade?
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>>46385344
Buy the starter pack, a ragik, some Ghazi, and a fiday. that should set you up ok
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Has the use of long skills in links been credibly described?
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>>46385364
Because if Druze find themselves in CC against anyone even half-decent, then they might as well kill themselves.
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>>46385364

It's designed for ritual suicide.
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>>46383436

Hate to be a bitch but, I want to reiterate this question.
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>>46385629
sorry must have missed it. if you cant make something out let me know i can repost the stats.
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>>46385668
It's a bit hard to make out, but it looks like an AHD to me.
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>>46385668
closer examination yeah unreadable so here:
top profile - sniper rifle, antipersonnel mines, pistol knife, swc 0.5 27 points
mid - assault hacking device, boarding shotgun d-charges, swc 0.5 26 points
bottom forward observer, boarding shotgun d-charges, swc 0 points 21
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>>46385311

But the plot progression is also fairly important surely?

Don't mind summaries of the new stuff really. Like what's the story for Oyxn and USAriadna or something.
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>>46385743
I completely forgot I even had that book with the rulebook.
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>>46385755

Same, I should give it a readthrough.
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>>46385755
>>46385817

We all eagerly await your summaries and/or pics. Many thanks in advance!
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>>46379907
>That said, I'm at best indifferent about the Black Friars
Really? I mean they bring nothing fancy to PanO as a whole, but for MO they will finally allow me not to play vanilla just to get Nisse.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogbDzKlJPtU

NEW VIDEO
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>>46385718

Cool, thanks bro.
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We've not seen the merc pages yet right?
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>>46385915

Carlo's English seems to be getting a little bit better every new round of videos he's in. Good on him.

And seeing Angel Gabriel's work actually live on-camera was both a sublime experience and a heartbreaking one knowing that nothing I will ever paint will ever get to that level.

>>46385837

Maybe I'll get drunk and post iPhone pics one of these days. Not in the next few days, though, I have to be at the DMV for shit and that's, like, one of the places way up on the list that you do not want to be drunk.
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Any chance of getting all the tohaa stats pages base anon?
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>>46386027
No, Scanon didn't get to those yet.
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>>46385668

Does anyone have the White Hacking Device?

I haven't seen any yet.
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>>46386097
Kamael get it.
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>>46386097

Isobel might, IIRC (which I probably am not).

Might be a replacement for Defensive Hacking Device, or perhaps a defensive analogue to the Killer Hacking Device, like how the DHD is an analogue to the AHD.
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>>46386054
>>46386097
I'll get to that stuff tomorrow likely.
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I'd love to hear about if Holoprojector L3 allows you to use Holo2 without NFB if anyone gets a chance to look.
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>>46386385
Can you reshoot the Nomads page with Prowler? It's not very legible.
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>>46386097
Aelis should get it
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What are the stats on the red fury?
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>>46387147
Dam 13 Shock spitfire bandings B4 i think. essentailly a shock molotok
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>>46385668

Can you a better picture please, thank you in advance :D
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>>46380166
Keisotsu are still 9 points.
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Can you scan the page with Nullifier rules?
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Can we see Natural Born Warrior rules, they change it?
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Converted Unknown Ranger. DAT armor 4...
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>>46388953
nicely done
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Please Uragan weapon renge bands? In Ariadna forum are specting some changes...
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>>46385233
Thats the definition of tolerance. If you let something be despite hating thats is ehat tolerancr is about. Or do you believe you have to agree with criticisms to be tolerant. Christianity has moernized. Islam has not.
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Alien on Alien action!

Whoever wins, Humanity is the ultimate loser.
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Can someone summarize the different Kiths in CtL?
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>>46389311
As a matter of fact I can but I'm not sure that's right thread for this, friend
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>>46388953
Nice conversion!
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I'd love the art of new units once we have all the stat pages, could be useful for conversions.
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>>46389311
You seem to be Lost, this is Infinity: the Dreaming thread.
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Would like human CA loyalists who arent Sepsitored
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Going to an ITS event tomorrow, how many smoke markers should I take for a Myrmidong link?
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Do we know what Albedo does? Drakios and the Overdron has it
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>>46389700
Makes the one with the skill invisible to MSV troops in the first game round.
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>>46389598
I can read "Join Advent" but I can't read the rest.
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>>46381944
Yes. Yes. All of the fucking YES.
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Any changes to how Daikinis work? Or chance of resculpt of those abominations?
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Onyx dont get 16 WIP hackers
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Could someone with the book check if there really is no upgrade page for existing CA units? Seems strange to me.
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>>46389598
Considering that the human sphere's only real interactions with CA so far that haven't involved murder or slavery were under-the-table deals with Exrah (which resulted in the EI completely annihilating the offending corporation), I don't think there'd be all that many humans willing to side with it.
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>>46389911
which book was that bit covered in? I mean I know it's why the exrah got a minor squatting but I've never seen it myself.
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>>46390051
N3, I'm pretty sure.
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>>46390096
time to go read more of that I guess, just so much fluff.
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>>46389959
>>
does any one have a chinaman link for infinity?
only have 40k ones, can't find any infinity ones
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>>46390171
I would name him Krew!
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Namefagging why?
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>>46390280
Damn I checked the date I sure am an idiot
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>>46390264
Chinaman as in Yu Jing, or chinaman as in recaster? If it's the latter, no one uses recaster bc CB minis are good enough, nasty to recast (dem details) and not made by asshole corporation so less incentive to go communist.

Also holy shit, someone go kill whoever made the new skin. Hope it's an April Fools prank.
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>>46390280
>>46390295
Hey, a specific plus sign for creating a reply is pretty decent.
>>
Just checking something
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Are there weapon chart photos?
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So my Lt options are still limited to the two Teutons (who are even worse now compared to other things...) that I have and apparently can no longer link? Wow bought those two extra Teutons for nothing then
Was hoping for a Santiago Lt that isn't spitfire but at least they get parameds? Along with Order sarge parameds (not like people were using them enough right?)
Also no more pure five magister link and no other kind of specialist
Yeah definitely not getting the book now as I'm not too amused with the changes (especially with what I have)
>>
>names

L o l wut?
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>>46390324
I'm after multiple chain guns for conversions, so was hoping there was a chinaman recasting some, guess I'll have to do it myself
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checking if I got name
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>>46390280
>>46390295
>>46390355
>>46390449
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>>46390464
Screw you Wendy
Ima go eat one o yo nasty ass boigas
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>>46390464
Definitely.
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>>46390464
Definitely not brain damage, it's a sepsitor attack!
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Nevermind the names, this theme is annoying as shit
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>>46389598
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>>46390611
This better be a goddamn April Fool's joke.
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>>46390623
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>>46390627
Pretty sure it is
So don't get wound up about it lmao
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>>46390642
>>46390623
>>46389598
What slick nu animu did this come from?
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>>46390780
If I had to guess, I'd say XCOM 2. And I'm too lazy to look it up, so I'll have to guess.
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>>46390780
It's XCOM 2.

I wish I had the font so I could decipher it aside from "Join Advent"
>>
So, what's everyone's favorite change that's been spoiled so far?
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>>46390907
Definitely the change to G:Jumper. It was a so much needed change for Posthumans
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>>46390802
>>46390907
Nothing
God damn Iberians
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>>46390611
What theme? I don't see a difference on mobile.
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>>46379789
Because QK had it so damned good...
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What are core units of Steel Phalanx? Are they changing in HSN3?
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>>46390434
Santiago got MA 1 (courage, stealth), duo (removes fury when part of it), nanopulser (intuitive attack). Overall, nice changes.

I understand why Magisters didn't get Riot Grrls treatment. I'd want them to get it. I really don't care about Magisters + Order specialist mechanic.

I'm also not amused with how things turned out, however that's mostly how I like to play and CB's pushing PanO into other direction.
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>>46391000
Magisters at least got buffs so that's at least some compensation
And yes santiagos (and montesa) were given very good buffs to compensate for zero to few specialist and Lt options (though montesa spitfire can be Lt now)
But what really irks me is if the book is right Teutons got majorly shafted on fire teams and got zero compensation and my three Teutons are just gonna run around like semi useless headless chickens
But to be honest MO got a side grade so it's not worst but it's debatable if it's vastly better
Also loving CB trying to push their Santiago box and future hospitaller box...
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>>46390987
Myrmidons don't change, but Thorakitais do. New weapons (HMG, Feuerbach, marksmanrifle) at the cost of losing 360 visor for most profiles (couple of points cheaper too). Also they're now Religious for some reason.
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>>46390611
Kinda think it would be funny if we kept the first full name that was generated today for future posting.
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>>46391216
That would be terrible. We would all turn into namefags.

Favorite spoiled change? Posthumans, for sure.
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>>46379578
So do we know when the Ecuadorean combifucks would be releasing the Uhlans officially?
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>>46380783
Interesting unit. Trying to figure out what gap it can fill other than revealing assassins...and a source of Pheroware.
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>>46391298
Cheap as fuck orders?
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>>46391311
Chaksa HFs take care of that. That SMG profile though... hnngh.
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>>46391146
I think Montesa will be a very powerful option in any Pano army that can run them. Two CD 14 HI starting in your half of the board seems pretty good. If they had a specialist option they'd be an auto include
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Full pasta of HSN3 AVA tables:

http://pastebin.com/raw/k4Q3Zb9X
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>>46391298
Cheerleading and backline defense. Compared to the Kamael, the non-pheroware sentinels have a generally shorter range and can't fill out link teams, but they can effectively counter infiltrators and can provide utility with templates/nullifier. I don't think I'd use the sniper much.
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>>46391376
Just something I noticed you missed, santiagos can also link with magisters per the leaked page
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Probably posted like 3 times already, but have a collection of Yu Jing changes from the scans:


Celestials get a BS FO option
Baos seems slightly discounted, major changes in loadouts, some trade MSV2 for Biometric Visor L2
Kempeitai get Number 2 and are linkable with Keisotsu
Pheasant: gets MA2, CC+2, DACCW and is discounted like 2 points, also Free Agent in standard. Tons of new profiles, Red Fury option, Marksmanship X on sniper
Raiden gets Courage, HRL one gets minelayer with standard mines
Shang Ji get Duo, HRL profile, Tinbot B profile
Domaru get Duo, also with Oyama, oyama has pistol upgraded to breaker pistol and is cheaper
Karakuri lose explode, get Dogged, additional combi profile with Haris skill
Shikami - new unit (already known), JSA ODD HI specialist CC murderers with climbing+, superjump, and Duo
Su Jian gets Duo
O-Yoroi gets MA1 (stealth!) and CC21, including the pilot
Kanren - new unit (already known), ISS holo2 skirmisher with chain-colt, MA1 and monoCCW, Madtraps, predeployed Sniffers, cheap specialist options
Sun Tze 2.0 Mov 4-2, +1 BS, +3 BTS trades X2 Visor for MSV1 and Marksmanship 1, gets nanopulser and flash pulse on everything, +7pts
Zhanying get 2 new profiles (HRL?)
Yan Huo 2ML gets a profile with Tinbot C - Neurocinetics!
Wu Ming get new profiles - HRL/LS, Duo combi/EMitter, Duo chain/SMG
Hac Tao killerHD
Ninja bow+killerHD (TO specialist for 29/0!)
Dakini back to AVA2 in ISS

Yummy linkables:

Pheasant + Bao haris
Hsien + Zhanying haris
1-3 Cranes + CG Core
1 Zhanying + Wu Ming core
Kuang Shi linkable with their controller
Kempeitai + Keisotsu
Karakuri haris
1-2 Domaru in Haramaki core
Neko Oyama linkable with Domaru, Haramaki, or mix
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>>46391376
>ASA getting 5 Bagh-Mari is long overdue, but that army still needs more love
>NCA is kitted out enough with Devas and Aquilas, they don't need fucking Friars
>ISS has so much new good shit I don't even know where to begin
>Karakuri are a good fit for Haris, Domaru spitfires being allowed in Haramaki links is very good
>Don't know much about scots, but Mormaer Haris seems very nice
>Hassassins got some lovin, new link options all seem good
>Why does CB want us to link custodiers so bad?
>I'm pretty sure Gecko duos make every Corregidor player rock hard
>CB really wants Morat players to start using Suryats, don't they? It's got literally every link option possible
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>>46391471
>Karakuri lose explode
WHY
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>>46391471
>Zhanying + Wu Ming
Muh dick.

Zhanying: I'm in charge here! Storm them, scum!
Wu Ming 42BamF: *mutters under breath* Bitch, you nevah gonna get promoted anyways.


*Cocks Chain Rifle and slams fresh magazine into SMG*
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>>46391471
So I can't have a full link of 5 Haramaki anymore?
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>>46390907
Raiden HRL's been baffling for me. Sure, they added V:Courage, that way I won't forget about it in retreat scenarios and accidentally cheat, which bothered me more than it should because there was already a fluff explanation for it, but adding mines and minelayer for absolutely no reason?
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Does fireteam duo count as the single permitted fireteam for the list? Or is it in addition to the normal 5-man?
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>>46392018
It's in addition.
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>>46391893
Looking at the Fireteams page, those are all in addition to normally permitted links; So you could take the fancy Domaru/Haramaki link, OR the normal 5-strong link.
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>>46392049
Oh, sweet. Is that on top of Haris as well?
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>>46391471
>Pheasant: gets MA2, CC+2
I will never stop being slightly disappointed about this. They removed the monofilament, but then they tried to make up for it with more useless CC shit. Did they not understand that Pheasants aren't meant for CC?

At least it's actually viable now. Speaking of which, we need a new unit to be a laughing stock. Posthumans can't do it, they're good now. Maybe Seed-Soldiers could fill the role?

>>46391935
Pretty sure you can field a full Haramaki team. You just now have the option to add a spitfire to it.
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>>46391893
Same with magisters
Are riot grrls the same?
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does spending the special Lt order on someone in a link team break the link team?
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>>46392194
I mean, anymore, did HSN3 change that is what I'm asking?
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>>46392073
Yup.
You can even get Duos in Vanilla by activating a certain EVO Supportware.
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>>46392298
So theoretically I can have a 5-man link, two dudes buddy cop-ing it up, and another link of 3 guys?

My hype cannot be contained
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>>46390171
>>46389959
Well, someone did ask about fat people some time ago.
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>>46391376
>Gecko ava 4 duo
2x Gecko Mk12 duo
2x Gecko Mk12 duo
Clockmaker+Zondbot
Clockmaker+Zondbot
Mobile Brigada LT

With the changes to Geckos' costs this is SWC 2 Points 297. So... how retarded is the list? apart from being short on orders
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I can't quite read it. Is the spitfire option for the Aragoto the same price as it was before or is it 28-29 now?
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>>46390171
>>46392347
I just noticed the unit logo

>my sides are in orbit.jpg
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>>46390434
>Teutons
Apply yourself.
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>>46392410
Unchanged

>>46392052
I wonder what changes w/r/t the Impetuous level in link teams. If the whole link acts as the lowest-Impetuous member, a Domaru would be nice to calm down the Haramaki hotheads, and very fluffy too.
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>>46392942
They simply become not-impetuous while in a link team.
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>>46392934
Away with you dirty slav(e)!
But yeah Funny enough I'm considering either a Kazakh sectorial (when it comes out) or a vanilla Ariadna army (wanna see how the eventual updated starter comes out) for my second army since I got a scout mini from a tourny (none of the top winners wanted it lel)
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>>46390931
>>46391238
What exactly was the change to Posthumans again?
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>>46393006
>Waiting for Tunguska.jpg
>Waiting for Kazak.jpg
did a slav bully Carlos in school
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>>46391471
O-Yoroi has Martial Arts, Kinematika, and What else? I can't read the other rule. Manned?
>>46377999
Oh, what's it's price now? I can't read that either.
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My Yu Jing / CA changes pasta:

http://pastebin.com/raw/HFU2QXif

PanO almost done, Nomad next
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>>46393016
They fit as 1 model into a combat group so no more "empty orders", and get 2 more models, a superHI and a light firepower one.
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>>46393092
>No.46381944
Go to
>No.46381944
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>>46392967
That's how it works now, HSN3 was rumored to bring some changes

>>46393092
Yes, Manned. If I didn't write anything it's unchanged since Army5.
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It's further upthread. Basically, you can change which one is active in ARO, they only take up a single slot, netrods aren't needed to save the personality, but if you DO have a netrod, losing the bodies doesn't lose the order.
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I'm back, got link team rules and hacking rules ready to drop.
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>>46393341
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>>46393360
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>>46393379
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>>46393407
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>>46393341
You're doing God's work, Teri.
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>>46393427
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>>46393442

>>46393432
Thanks, Melba!
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>>46393016
>You can ARO from any one proxy and are now only penalized if two or more bodies could ARO. This makes proxies as a whole better and TO Proxy WAY Better since it can ARO from hidden deploy
>All Proxies ride for the price of one now (one slot in your group, as befits the one order they bring)
>Some Proxies are reportedly cheaper
>There are new proxies
>Isolation doesn't trap the posthuman
>Netrods let you cheerlead from beyond the grave and aren't needed to escape the demise of an active proxy
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>>46393499
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PanO pasta

http://pastebin.com/raw/KPmtBTiz
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>>46393537
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>>46393559
AND thats links, Hacking rules next.

>>46393171
but see here >>46393407
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Do you have the time to check whether there is an upgrade page for N3 CA troops just like for the other sectorials? If there is, it wasn't scanned and published yesterday and there are some people (mostly me) who would be very interested in it.
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>>46393575
Hacks start now
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>>46393607

>>46393597
there is. i'll get it when im done.
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>>46393637
derp
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>>46393119
Overdron 2x HRL 57 points!? Someone was on drugs?
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>>46390434
Tuetonic and Magister knights both still have fireteam core so I do not know what you speak of
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>>46393659
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>>46393546
Huh, looks like Kirpal might not be unusable garbage anymore. Of course, there's a limit to how good you can make a CC combat jump unit with CoC due to how completely incompatible those are, but at least he can actually kill things now.
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>>46393678

>>46393669
seeems like a lot of things just got a bit cheaper. not sure if thats cause the arms race brought in new murder tools to kill them or if its just tweaking in general.
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>>46393717
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>>46393737
this one came out like ass. dont worry i got some close ups.
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>>46393753
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>>46393753
It's readable. Do more pages instead.
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>>46393775
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>>46393798
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So I guess ISS lost some fireteams while gaining some new options? No complaints, but it looks like Zhanying and Pheasants can't be Core teams anymore, they have to be Haris teams. Did Crane also lose their option to make Crane only core teams (though I mean, who did that anyways)? Same with the Hsien, they used to Core team up, but it looks like they lost that. Though honestly, the Haris with Zhanying is a much better option. Not complaining, just noting.
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>>46393775
Is there a point to a regular HD anymore?
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>>46393673
Look at the exceptions presented in the sectorial Ava list
Unless they're meant to confuse people more which honestly wouldn't surprise me t b h...
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>>46393808
civi rules now. gonna do that combined page, then take a break and eat. fucking captcha is all FIND THE STEAK! FIND THE SANDWICH! FIND THE FISH!
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>>46393407
Nice to see fireteams are useful in CC now.
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>>46393836
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>>46393836
Can we have a closeup of the new Zhanying profiles? They're pretty unreadable in the earlier pic.
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Nice! Can I see g-jumper rules? For me is pancakes!
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>>46393873

>>46393861
Huh? what did you catch there? I havent given it a thorough read through yet.

>>46393597
Here ya go!

>>46393910
>>46393919
Later, gotta eat and stuff.
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Some changes on the Mercenary profiles? Massacre and Mc murrog?
Now is time for grass!!!
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>>46393814
Pheasant teams were terrible, much like the Pheasant. Hsien and Crane teams were a silly idea and only ever used as a gimmick, Zhanying actually made decent links but are probably better as Haris. No complaints here. Haris makes Pheasant/Bao combos usable, and those new cheap Bao options don't hurt.

>>46393817
They're cheaper than EVO and can use offensive programs while at the same time sprinkling fairy dust or juicing up a remote. Remember the 1 supportware per hacker limit.
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>>46393926
Since it didn't show up anywhere yet I assume there are no changes to Morat Vanguard Infantry or Daturazi?
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>>46393930 Massacre is now linkable with Jaguars. Or needed to link Jaguars. Either way it's nasty.
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>>46393932
EVO HDs also get Sword 1 programs. But I guess they don't get Claw.
I guess the 1 supportware per hacker thing is true but as EVO can supportware all repeater-carrying drones at once, it doesn't seem as needed. I think it'll be more common to see EVO + AHD combos for more than one hacker, maybe HD+ if you can get it.
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So I'm wondering how I should expand my Nomads force. Here is what I have so far

Operation Icestorm
Interventors
Intruders w/ HMG & Multisniper
Iguana
Lupe

Jaguars are pretty obvious and I'm going to grab those but I'm not sure what I should be using for specialists. I've been looking at Hellcats and Tomcats but I have no idea if those things are worth picking up.

Any ideas?
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>>46393926
Only the team leader makes the roll and gets +1B and +1PH when calculating damage for each fireteam member also engaged with the target.
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>>46394043
A bandit hacker ort FO is awesome, so are Moran FOs. One Tomcat doc or engie is def worth picking up. Hellcat are great too, either way don't take more than 2 AD in a list.
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>>46393926

Thanks, but that's not the page I meant. There should be a page somewhere dedicated to new profiles for pre-existing units (called upgrades or something). Otherwise, CA would have a special program for the Killer Hacking Device, but no unit to use it (since none of the new units has a Killer Hacking Device).
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>>46394110
Theres 2 pages for CA and the other got posted yesterday in good detail.
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>>46394096
>don't take more than 2 AD in a list
Why not? You're going to take a bunch of cheap dudes anyway so you should be able to offset any loss of orders on the first turn.
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>>46394143
If that's the case, then all of CA didn't get a single Hacker Device, since none of these two pages have a profile with Killer Hacking Device on them.

On the other side, there is a special program, only usable by CA and only on Killer Hacking Device.

That's quite hard to believe, why would they even include this program then?

I suspect there is a third page, with, as said, upgrades to existing CA units - just like every other faction got one.
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>>46394205

I meant Killer Hacking Device in my first sentence.
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What are the stats of Red Fury weapon?
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>>46394205
No idea, bro. Sorry.

>>46394087
Oh snap. Thats pretty hype. Makes that Crane + CG link scary again.

>>46394243
B4 Range as spitfire, damage 13 shock.
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I've watched some Infinity tutorials, but am confused about face-to-face rolls and combat.

I roll a 9 and 5 to shoot a figure who chooses to shoot back and rolls a 6. If the figure survives the 9 would the other shots resolve or would they not happen?

When are good times to ARO to shoot/CC and when are good times to dodge?

If I have a +3 modifier to BS11 and roll an 11 to hit do I get a crit or would I get a crit from a 14?

If I crit with a T2 weapon will it just inflict one direct wound or two? And are the rules for that the same for inflicting structure damage?
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>>46393673
Read the new rules before talking
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>>46394455
The 9 beats his shot, but the 5 doesn't happen.

The 14 would be the crit

A crit with T2 is 2 wounds, whereas a crit with plasma, DA, or viral is only 1 automatic and the other you still roll.
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You Infinity players are nothing more than a buch of subhuman monkeys that deserve nothing more to be gassed. I hope that every single person at Corvus got killed, raped and sewn into dress and not in this order.
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>>46394455
>I roll a 9 and 5 to shoot a figure who chooses to shoot back and rolls a 6. If the figure survives the 9 would the other shots resolve or would they not happen?
In that case only 9 ocurres. Only the better rolls, and from one player resolve.
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>>46394536
(You)
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>>46394455
Any ftf dice result cancels opposing dice results of equal or lower value. Even if a dice is cancelled by a higher opposing roll it still cancels any lower opposing rolls.
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>>46394536
Yep, you want a bannana? Have you checked my new panty's and short dress?
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>>46394536
Dang Esther
Ur a savage
Bet ur dis wild in bed bae
>>
So if we both rolled 9's nothing would happen no matter what if one of us was trying to dodge, CC, or shoot?

Also, can I shoot then move during my turn or do something like use a medkit then shoot? At what point are AROs resolved? If there are multiple AROs how is the order of things decided (someone shooting 2 shots at one troop 1 at the other and both opposing troops AROing for example)?
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>>46394763
>shoot then move during my turn
You can not medikit+shoot. You only can make movement + skill. Yep both 9 annulled.
But there are a exception. Critics cancel other rolls, no matter which number it is. So critical with an 1 for example cancel all other adversary rolls.
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>>46394536
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>>46394763
well, you move, the other declare AROs, and then you decide if you shoot or move again for example.
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>>46394278

Thank you anyway...well sometime tomorrow somewhere a PDF will be up and we'll know more.
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>>46394763
You can perform one entire order skill, two short movement skills or one short movement skill and one non-movement short skill with an Order.
Shoot, then move, works because that's one short movement skill and one non-movement short skill.
Medikit, then shoot cannot be done in one order because they're both non-movement short skills. You can only do one of those per order.

Keep in mind the sequence in which an order is done.

This is how it goes, assuming you're using two short skills:

>Active trooper declares first skill, including details like targets (if any) and ammo type/weapon used (if any).
>If that's a movement, declare the intended movement first, then measure and move the mini.

>Any enemy troops that had line of fire during any part of that first skill get to declare what they'll do for their ARO, including details like targets (if any) and ammo type/weapon used (if any).

>Active trooper declares his second skill, which can be executed at any point of the previous skill, including details like targets (if any) and ammo type/weapon used (if any).
>If that's a movement, declare the intended movement first, then measure and move the mini.

>Any enemy troops that had line of fire during any part of that second skill and have not declared an ARO yet get to declare what they'll do for their ARO, including details like targets (if any) and ammo type/weapon used (if any).

>Ranges are measured if necessary, all rolls (both face to face and normal) are executed with their effects happening all at the same time.
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