SoI Spoilers: Mad Kor Edition

Avacyn waifufags on suicide watch.

>>46009133
Wizard is being really fucking coy on what is actually "coming" and happening to innistrad.

I am dying to know

>fuck you dad, and your plane

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So out of the new stuff revealed so far, what has the best potential of being a high value card in the long run?

>>46009169
>Jace, Fuccboi with a Cloak
What is his cost and abilities /tg/?

>>46009133
>I am the harbinger of your perfection

>>46009206
he's gonna be revealed this week you dopey cunt

>>46009177
The only thing "coming" on innistrad is nahiri and her "daddy"

>>46009133
Why she is pissed with Sorin
She thinks he fucked Zendikar?

>>46009188
>no new Odric spoiled yet
FUCK

>>46009188
I really hope Odric is getting a new card, and that it's cool.

>>46009188

Nothing so far. Nahiri a cute and thing in the ice will be a trash dollar bin rare two months from now.

>>46009206
+1: card disadvantage
-1: no way to protect itself
Ult: gimmicky mill

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>>46009177
>>46009177
>I am dying to know
isn't it obvious?

>>46009223
STOP
T
O
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>>46009224
Period. She even costs red now.

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HOW BOUT DAT VINDICATE

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>>46009265

>>46009188
Nahiri, because she's a planeswalker.

Anguished Undoing stands the best chance of being good, but it isn't strictly better than anything in a crowded category of kill spells, and it's getting a promo card too.

That new exile wrath will be good for Standard.

That 1-drop enchantment kill spell will be good for Standard.

The rest were intro-rare tier.

All-in-all, a good set of spoilers today, but nothing with high amounts of eternal playability.

>>46009238

We don't know yet. It has supposedly to do with her thinking he both released the Eldrazi from the Eye of Ugin and brought vampires to Zendikar. Both things he didn't do, and could be easily disproved if she talked with any of the other planeswalkers that were busy saving her plane without her.

>>46009255
why are phyrexian nerds so desperate to show up this set despite it not fitting in the setting at all

>>46009265
>dat flavor text
we purple prose now

>>46009288
Nigga I just want Odric 2.0

>>46009265
Yeah, "vindicate"

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>>46009188
Is that Odric? Is he safe?

>>46009288
I think her fraying mental state also factors in, living so long without purpose wore on her and she became apathetic and listless.

having something bad happen to the one thing she got to do in her long life that mattered probably snapped her.

>>46009297
They need more elesh norn art to jerk off to.

>>46009223
>nahiri's just mad that sorin would rather fuck a realdoll he made in her image rather than her

>>46009317
Kinda looks like he's doing some detective work on that feather

He looks to be OK

>>46009317
This is NuWizards. No one is safe, nothing is sacred

>>46009313
Vidicate suitable the meta NWO wnats.

>>46009133
Nahiri-is-a -vamp fags BTFO

>>46009333
Avacyn existed before he met Nahiri.

>>46009273
The dual faced sorcery is a cool card. Like a concept car that is little more than a sculpture on the showroom floor

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Cool guys don't look at explosions.

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>>46009273
>Anguished Undoing.

Well this is one of the cards I've been talking about with my friends for a while now. The big thing is that its basically a cheaper version of Utter End, but the bigger question is would it be better than Mortify? Granted it can also target artifacts, planeswalkers and indestructibles but will it be worth it?


I guess its true though, a cards eternal value is determined by its ability to break into modern and Legacy.

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>>46009265
it's not vindicate, it's sad unmake

>>46009393
>Fly bitches dont look at explosions.

>>46009368
So did nahiri's daddy fetish. She got a daddy, Sorin God his angelfu as a waifu. Why else do you think avacyn is going nanners?

>>46009339
>exile target permanent
>exile target non-land permanent

There's a huge difference in power level here.

>>46009378
Yeah, it's a really neat card, but it's not good in any sense.

It's a 13 mill for 4, which is already a bit steep, but 5 more mana for just a chance of casting it again? Maybe if the flip side wasn't a 1/1.

They should have pushed the return side more. Either made it cheaper or made it's creature side better.

Nahiri luring Emrakul to Innistrad as retribution for Sorin/Ugin not helping Zendikar seems like a neat idea.

>"You didn't want to help with this thing, so now it's your problem!"

I am a bit disappointed in Nahiri as a walker for both constructed and EDH, even though she's flavorful as fuck.

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>>46009337
The feather is part of his outfit.

>>46009418
Are you a bot?

>>46009422
Literally only valuable in EDH mill decks.

>>46009398
I think the versatility more than makes up for the life loss.

>>46009398
Is this a serious question? Read both cards again and tell me what you think is better
>but muh 3 life

>>46009393

I'm kind of bummed, I don't think this art is particularly good for a playmat: it's too high contrast.

>>46009133
Well Jesus. I like RW, Nahiri, and walkers in general. And there's just nothing interesting about this card in the slightest.

>>46009440
>that's a feather
>not a ponytail
My entire life is a lie

>>46009440
Shit you're right

Well, he's holding a thurible so hopefully he's alright

>>46009188
New Avacyn, Relentless Dead, Newhiri, Descend upon the Sinful and Thing in the Ice in that order.

Eerie Interlude, Declaration on Stone, Soul Swallower and Markov Dreadknight are all pretty damn good too.

>>46009393
I wonder what sword is that. Nahiri has been making some cool swords before. I like swords.

>>46009240
>>46009238
These niggas know whats up

>>46009440

No fucking way that's a feather. It's a ponytail 100%. You can see the black strand of his hair going all the way through it.

>>46009481
Wait shit nevermind>>46009188

>>46009440
I've never seen that art at high resolution before. That looks fantastic

>>46009393
>tfw you will never be a markov
>tfw you will never get raped by nahiri

>>46009488
its the one her Commander makes, Stoneforged Blade.

she made it for a scared girl on a plane Ulamog destoryed and it was the only thing she could walk away with of that girl.

>>46009188
ODRIC 2.0

WHEN
H
E
N

>>46009503
No the feather brooch on his chest

>>46009133
>waited years for another R/W planeswalker
>not only is it not even a new character, it's not even a good character
>the card isn't good or interesting anyway unless you build a very specific deck
None of that is an effective Boros strategy. Give me a proper R/W Planeswalker wizards. Reee.

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>>46009488
It's the Stoneforged Blade

>>46009503
On his lapel, anon

>>46009535
Red White doesn't mean "Boros" nigger.

there are many variations on what color combos mean.

>>46009398
It will find a place among goyfs and rhinos to be sure.

What're yinz hoping for from this set? As a Kaalia player/angel fetishist, I have high hopes for some delicious, new fatties.

The original Innistrad block provided a lot for Kaalia decks, but I fear WotC will bog down too many prospects with delirium or "too-specific" effects. Hell, two fo the three lesser angels already have delirium attached to them.

You can argue that Kaalia has enough options to choose from, but we really haven't gotten anything "new" or worthwhile outside of supplemental products.

>>46009559
And this one is boring.

>>46009442
Are you aroused

>>46009535
It's not like anything could live up to Ajani Vengeant who is literally the perfect Planeswalker

>>46009535
In Magic, different colors and color combinations can do different things, anon

>>46009509
Tfw she will never lithomance your asshole and whisper into your ear how much of a slut you are

>>46009568
no one cares about your overplayed, hyper expensive incredibly powerful commander and what new tidbits you need for your bloatedly powerful commander deck

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>>46009422
>5 more mana for just a chance of casting it again? Maybe if the flip side wasn't a 1/1.
Think about it this way: it's a Reassembling Skeleton that doesn't enter play tapped and can act as a win-con for a control deck.

Annnnddd it also costs 3 more mana and is sorcery-speed. They probably could've made the transform ability cost 3 or 4 mana and it would've been playable.

The important thing is that the tranformed side can chump block once a turn for 5 mana, which is something a control deck might want.

>>46009610
or.. OR, for 5 mana.. you play Ojutai.

>>46009607
>Kaalia is fucking $37
I should just dismantle my Kaalia deck because of all the money in it

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>>46009535
I DISAGREE STRONGLY WITH YOUR SENTIMENT.

HERE ARE MY CREDENTIALS.
SLIGHTLY OUT OF DATE THOUGH, THE WEAR//TEARS ARE ANCIENT GRUDGEs, THE RATCHET BOMBS ARE ENGINEERED EXPLOSIVES, AND ONE MOUNTAIN IS NOW A STOMPING GROUND.

SHE'S A FINE SIDEBOARD CARD BY MY METRIC.

>>46009635
god fuck.

DFC cards get me rock hard for some reason.

I love this regardless of how useable it is.

>>46009635
>When [thing from only this set] happens, make this card useful
FUCKING STOP THIS

>>46009610
Yeah, I think 3 mana would have been more fair.

If you're using it just to chump, then it doesn't need to be 5. If you're using it to get the spell back to your hand, you're basically paying 7 for the privilege then.

Either way, it doesn't matter much. It's a cool card, but it wasn't going to be amazing no matter what they did.

>>46009666
Does it apply to the Origins flipwalkers?

>>46009666
Origins planeswalkers.

>>46009607
>Kaalia overpowered
>No built in protection
>Can cheat out one thing a turn
>(If she lives long enough to swing)
>If you have the creatures in hand to begin with

Sorry my B-Tier commander gives you so much salt. Sorry she isn't like Narset or Animar for can pretty much shit their entire deck on your board by turn four.

>>46009635
>flavour text is literally the same on both sides but written in a different way

Jesus, wizards just doesn't give a fuck anymore do they?

>>46009635

That's interesting - it looks a little like Bloodletter from the ARG as well, though it isn't the same.

Makes me wonder if they'd have Cathar who wields it show up - he did become an immortal cursed human at the end, in order to kill more cultists.

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>>46009635

The perfect complement for the best creature in Magic!

:^)

>>46009682
>>46009683

No, the micro-assholes self-exile and ETB transformed, different than transforming.

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DADDY WHY

>>46009706
Oh daaaaaaang

>>46009712
Isn't it still a precident for the dfc mechanic not being an innistrad-sets only mechanic?

>>46009657
Well, until a R/Walker comes around that actually makes a proper Boros Red White deck viable, I'm not wasting my time on some greyskinned whore taking that slot for another 6 years.

>>46009635
OK for draft I suppose

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So avacyn confirmed permanently dead and not remade or something?

; _ ;

rip in piece goth thighs

>>46009159
Life isn't worth living anymore.

>>46009666
Wasn't BfZ this in its entirely? Stop complaining.

>>46009768
Not necessarily

>>46009732
Because Sorin got his real waifu back

>>46009787
I don't know. Sorin made Avacyn premending.

I can understand how he can undo such magick, but is he capable of such a thing now?

>>46009666
They make maybe one or two of those cards per set. Look at yugioh, then reconsider what you mindlessly bitch about.

>>46009732

Curse the anon who pointed out that they fucked up the second sentence by not making it a new line. I can't unsee.

>>46009787
Didn't the card mention that he had to end her for good or whatever?

>>46009666
don't worry Satan, we will see double faced cards a whole lot more in the future

>>46009821
Avacyn the weight of an entire plane's worship behind her, I wouldn't be surprised if she manifested as real angel in Eldritch Moon

>>46009846
>What are allies

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>>46009887
>I wouldn't be surprised if she manifested as real angel in Eldritch Moon
like this?

>>46009864
>>46009666

>not wanting triple-faced cards in your card game

ISHYGDWT

http://tabakrules.tumblr.com/post/100530619404/duel-masters-triple-faced-cards#permalink

>>46009768
A lot of shit was ressurrected on a whim. I wouldn't be surprised if they suddenly bring her back for bullshit reasons.

>>46009419
>Sorcery
>Instant Speed

Yeah, there is.

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>>46009328

>>46009328
>implying you don't jerk off to Elesh Norn
Of all MTG Waifus, she is the most pure and chaste. Therefore she is best.

>>46009938
that's rad, silly, but rad

>>46009887
Yeah, but the worship could have been an effect of the spell surrounding her. I don't know. I'm eager to see what they do.

I'm half-hoping for that "fourth sister", the one who consorted with demons, to come back as a black or b/w creature in the set. I'm also hoping that, if Emrakul was lured to Innistrad, that she assumes a corrupted form of Emeria. How dope would a devoid-boarded B/W Eldritch Angel be?

>>46009732
Avy-chan was such a nice girl :(

>>46009635
Fuckin' awesome, if I flip it while equiped does it remain attached to the creature?

>Flipping Avacyn while equipped with Neglected Heirloom

>>46009459
Again, im counting value in terms of formats. Granted the 3 life will be irelevant in a 40 life format like commander. Higher value is determined by whether it can break into other formats. This is why cards like baby Jace are worth over $80, because they see use in multiple formats.

>>46009635
I like that when the sword unleashes it's true form, the guy in the flavortext is still casually rambling on about it's history.

>>46009133
She fits the next Standard well, but outside of that she is a poor man's Ajani Vengeant.

>>46009983
I'm pretty sure it stays attached

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>>46009932
tfw the end of eldritch moon will be evangelion inspired

>>46009983
Yes, Transformed permanents never leave play. The only exception is the Planeswalkers who need to be exiled in order for them to receive loyalty counters upon transformation

>>46010012
Yeah, they couldn't make up a specific event, or make it sound more ominous?

>>46009961
>Not wanting her to rip off your skin

>>46009938
That's actually pretty fucking cool. Too bad it would make sleevers crazy, because 1. they need to find a sleeve big enough to fit it, 2. they need to take the card out of the sleeve everytime they flip it.

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>>46010029
>Jace strangling Liliana with a tang filled Innistrad in the background
I'd play it

>>46009265
>rare
No. Hell no.

>>46009133
>>46009393
I love tho art a lot more, her commander card made her look like a niggress in white face

>>46010029
>implying it won't just be more eldrazishit and "lovecraftian"

>>46009635
this and those missionaries dont seem too bad for draft

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>>46010029
All the angels keep
tumbling down
tumbling down
tumbling down

>>46010029
>everyone on the plane is dead, including jace
>sorin sobbing on his knees
>nahiri at his side
>world sized liliana floating around with Avacyn corpse
Best set ever. All it needs is a card picturing all of that called Tumbling Down.

>>46009265
avacynn waifu "avacyn could take on any planeswalker and beat they ass" fags btfo fucking cucks

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>>46010128
I like it. I like it a lot.

>>46009756
I feel she has good potential as a sideboard tool. One of the shortcomings of Disenchant effects is they only answer a narrow class of card, and at best 1-for-1 them. Back in Lorwynmoor Standard if you tried answering Faeries' Bitterblossoms with Naturalize you were fucked, you took a card or cards out to play a card that only answered Bitterblossom, worsening your game to deal with an engine that meant the difference between Faeries being good and being degenerate; you failed to improve the matchup!

Nahiri fixes the narrowness of sideboard hate like that by also tacking on a few other features (exiling tapped creatures, helping you improve your hand quality, threatening to Sneak Attack something for whatever value), though admittedly she has relevant drawbacks in not hitting untapped artifacts (it's a really dumb flaw of hers but I feel that it's made up for in a way by her hating on tapped creatures) and being 4 mana (which is kinda slow for a sideboard card, but on the other hand she does a number of things so you're exchanging speed of resolution for a swiss army knife card).

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>>46009983
>>46010020
>>46010041
>Elusive Tormentor equipped with Neglected Heirloom
>Insidious Mist equipped with Ashmouth Blade

Is this life

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>>46010073
komm susser todd playing in the background as emrakul absorb the essence of avacyn ; become a multidimensional god and proceed to destroy the live on innistrad

>>46009979
Well black was the only color that didn't get a Herald in AVR

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>>46009393
>TELL ME THAT DIDN'T LOOK AWESOME

>>46009333
Kek

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>>46010162
>Insidious Mist equipped with Ashmouth Blade

>>46009635
Amazing in EDH :D

>>46010198
this season is amazing

Double-sided cards were a mistake.

>>46010165
>become a multidimensional god

He already is.

>>46010277
Modern was a mistake

>>46009635
BR Vamps HOOOOOOOOO!

>>46010285
nice

>>46010277
"Anon was a mistake"
-your mother

>>46010290
Modern was an inevitability, the designers knew it was going to happen the minute they decided to make expansion sets.

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>mfw the moon is one of the artificial planes created by Yawgmoth

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>all this low-powered, boring shit
>nothing even remotely Legacy playable

Swell.

Are there ANY good targets with Nahiri's ult that would make the three turn charge up on her worth it?

>>46010272
I personally like the whole Hank & Sirena thing. Really sweet, hoping they dont dispose of her or break them off in later seasons.

>>46010338
Emrakul
Ulamog

>>46010338
If it's good enough for Sneak n Show, it's good enough for Nahiri.

Just Emrakul their shit up.

>>46010338
Zurgo, most voltron commanders.

>>46009408
Target "nonland permanent" is a lot more relevant than target creature.

>>46010338
emerakul

then you bounce emerakul with eldrazi displacer for all the fucking eldrazi fun

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I know I shouldn't expect much from these pre-built deck rares, but they're all just overcosted trash. It's unbelievable how bad they are. Like, those fucking things do so little for so much mana, not even EDH players are gonna play 'em.

>>46010336
how would Sorin not know there's a fucking plane with Phyrexians sitting right there

>>46010338
Blightsteel colossus.

>>46010456
>>46010375
>>46010374

But emracool is banned in EDH fampai :^)

>>46010473
What are you talking about? This is epic for EDH.

Do you hate fun? Get out of here,

>>46010337
What if Jimmy also studied really hard but still got a F?

>>46010338
In Marath she's a janky combo with Doubling Season to ult the turn she comes out, which could bring out Craterhoof Behemoth or Avenger of Zendikar

>>46010499
You should specify next time.

Replace emerakul with any high cmc creature with game winning effect

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Love the flavor and art.

The card is garbage in about every format tho, but it's still cool.

>>46010538
Then he deserved that fucking F and it goes to show Jimmy needs to be held back a grade to go over the material again

>>46010538
Then Jimmy is retarded which means he is getting in a special program to help him overcome his retardation.

>>46010473
If only it was one or two less mana... still will see some play

>>46010567
Favorite card so far

>>46010515
This is overcosted bullshit for EDH, Nevermind that you have to go White Weenie spirit tribal and can only be dropped mid to late game.

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EDH staple comming through

>>46010645
>No fun allowed
Okay kid, we get it.

>>46010648
This, its basically kirtar's wrath but better.

>>46010488
well technically the planes that Yawgmoth made are undetectable to walkers but it would be weird if he didn't notice the fucking moon. Although that would be kind of funny if because it was an artificial plane he never actually knew the moon was there

>Sorin, they're coming from the moon
>What moon?
>The only moon Innistrad has
>But Innistrad doesn't have any moons

>>46010012

>Glowing? Well of course it glows, it's an old heirloom. Have you ever seen a family relic or keepsake that *didn't* glow or moan or cause the dead to rise and offer you a bargain signed in blood?

>>46010648
Garbage. The angel dies to removal. I like it.

>>46010567
Basically a free win in limited formats, constructed not so much.

Also the foil will be AMAZING

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>>46010648
And they said sweepers were getting worse

>>46010337
I guarantee you Thing in the Ice will see play in eternal formats.

>>46010645
Yup. I might -- MIGHT -- make space for this in Karlov, if Ifeel a need for more instant-speed life-gain effects, pulled this in a pack, and can't afford to buy some of the better ones online for some reason. And I might play it if they make a commander that cheats spirits into play (Or if one exists that I forgot about somehow). Otherwise it's way too expensive for what it does.

>>46010586
>>46010597
You know there're tons of reasons for why Jimmy could fail even though he studied hard, right? like being ill the day before or the day of the exam, just for example.

>>46010660
Oh fun is allowed if you have half a brain and realize how to do shit properly. You wanna look at EDH staples? Look at relentless dead. Perfectly fits into a Korlash monoblack or a Grimgrin UB token sack.

>>46010473
You know the Set is going to be shit when garbage like this is a Rare.

Its so fucking bad, even in draft i would try to pick something else.

7 mana for a fucking 4/4 that does absolutely nothing when it hits the field.

IT DOESNT EVEN COUNT ITSELF TO GIVE YOU LIFE, ANOTHER SPIRIT HAS TO HIT THE FIELD.

Theres shit like Siege Rhino, 4 mana 4/5 Trample Lightning Helix and then theres this absolutely fucking garbage card.

Fuck this retarded rares. At least make them useful in some weird way for some flavor decks but instead we get insanely expensive monsters that do absolutely fucking nothing and die to the most cheap removals in any fucking format.

Fuck this shit.

>>46010708
>WAAAHHH you can only have fun my way with cards I like!
You are only digging yourself deeper, little boy.

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Limited all-star, and if madness becomes a thing, I see no reason why this won't be played in Standard

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That one is hilarious

>>46010758
>opponent has multiples of these on the field

>know anything you cast will get obliterated and they'll get Madness cards on your ass too.

Inevitability with this card is going to frustrate new players to no end.

>>46010701
Whelp, Jimmy should learn how to take tests while under pressure when he's held back for another year. I have never had an illness that stopped me from going to school and getting good grades on my tests.

>>46010758
They Pay 1 life thing is what puts me off.

>Pay B to cast
>Pay B
>Mill yourself
>Discard card
>Kill something
>Wait, its almost good... add Pay 1 life.
>We did it, its limited viable only.

>>46010758
It's a cute twist on Seal of Doom / Executioner's Capsule, but it's probably too resource efficient to see play as soon as a simple Doom Blade variant is confirmed.

At least it unconditionally kills things. I like that trend on Black removal, getting rid of the remaining Terror riders that hung around.

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>>46010567
The thing is, something like Glimpse the Unthinkable is more efficient but only works in a mill deck. Without other mill cards to back it up, it does jack and shit.

This card can mill a person all by itself. All it needs is a control shell to keep the board clean and it can mill all 60 cards. It can also chump block if the conditions are right.

>>46010810
It's effectively BB and discard to kill any type of creature. Milling and 1 life are very minimal costs.

>>46010499
Play Ulamog, you're in EDH and have access to doubling season, Nahiri ults instantly.

Thank fuck she doesn't get an emblem. I'm so damn tired of planeswalkers with instant emblems and not being able to interact with emblems.

>>46009265
>a better utter end

oh wow this is nice

>>46010722
>Fuck this retarded rares. At least make them useful in some weird way for some flavor decks but instead we get insanely expensive monsters that do absolutely fucking nothing and die to the most cheap removals in any fucking format.

That was magic for the first 10 or so years of its existence. Now if they just got rid of the actually good creatures too we could have some real fun

>>46010701
Whatever helps Jimmy sleep at night. If he wants to blame bad luck or a virus then he can go right ahead but that doesn't change the fact that he mentally lacking.

>>46010810
>Pay B to leave it there when you don't need that B untapped or first turn
>Later Pay B
>Pay 1 in a lifegain color
>Mill 1
>Discard something that will most likely have Madness anyway
>Sacrifice Concotion
>Are you Delirious yet?
>Oh and kill something.

>>46009570
Here's a tip: White is boring. White/Red is only slightly less boring.

>>46009535
Ajani Vengeant is still one of the best Planeswalker cards. Chill.

>>46010810
1 life is all that's making it bad!?!
>2 mana removal
>targets anything
>kinda acts like a Seal of Doom
>one life means nothing
>triggers madness
>triggers delerium
>triggers prowess
And it has excelent flavor. Perfect removal

>>46010833
The problem is how mana intensive it is.

It's going to be very late in the game before it actually starts working, though it only needs to resolve 3 times.

>>46010888
Guess you never ever failed at anything.

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>>46010810
>paying 1 life makes something limited garbage
nigga what

>>46010810
It triggers madness spells though.

>>46010810
>>46010758

Honestly, it's Discard a Card that burns me. I was pretty excited to finally see Black get a 1-mana-destroy-any-creature spell but fuck me. Looks like Victim of the Night or Dismember is still the way to go.

>>46010337
>grades are a finite resource
Conservatards are worse than /v/ with metaphors

It could've just been a group project and they get graded individually but their actual grade is the average, thus not only making sense in a communism and education sense, and still preserving the joke

>>46010935
>3UU
>Counter target spell

Just use Counterspell instead? Who fucking designs these cards jesus.

>>46010956
>Being this bad at magic

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>>46010538
Take that logic of yours and fuck off from 4chan.

>>46009133
That's a good card. Also, Nahiri is way hot.

>>46010833
No, just no.
By the time you milled someone with this shit you'll be dead. Control is allready struggling in Modern without having to sacrifice deck slots to garbo cards that basically do nothing revelant at 4 mana.

>>46009756
I dunno she fits perfectly in the shitty R/W control decks I keep trying to make.

>>46010983
Key word: Shitty

>>46010983
R/W control? Anon, please tell me more.

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Coming soon to the category of "cards that will never see play because they cost too much fucking mana," this thing!

>>46010974
>Being this bad at bad magic

>>46010983
>playing Nahiri in control
nigga you play Ajani in control, not Nahiri.

Why do people keep thinking rummaging for cards makes Nahiri a control walker?

>>46010456
>then you bounce emerakul with eldrazi displacer for all the fucking eldrazi fun
you don't even have to, Nahiri's ability already bounces the creature at end of turn

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>>46010956
TRIGGERED

>>46010586
>>46010597
>>46010806
>>46010888
>>46010975
While >>46010701 is really bad at understanding this kind of stuff, Economics isn't comparable to grades in a school system where everyone can theoretically work hard and get an A. It's more like a curve grading system where there are only two As, three Bs, four Cs, five Ds and everyone else fails. That's more comparable to how economics works.
Then there are five honor students in the class and David's mom was blowing the teacher regardless of how much he studied and plenty of kids would fail simply because the better scoring kids ate up the good grades.

Now, to keep this on topic somehow >>46009393
Delicious Boros waifu is pissed. Now all we need is someone to eat up a r/b slot so we can wash Sarkhan Mad out of RB and everything will be nice and in balance again

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>>46010567
>recurring Archive Trap
Love it. You can toss this to graveyard via Flip Jace and other tricks then bring it back later in the game to mill your opponent out.

>>46011026
The art is neat, so there's that.

>>46011039
But then you have to recast emerakul.

Use eldrazi displacer to keep emerakul from having to go back to your hand

>>46009635
>not common
Saddens me deeply.

>>46011050
>Delicious Boros waifu is pissed. Now all we need is someone to eat up a r/b slot so we can wash Sarkhan Mad out of RB and everything will be nice and in balance again

Tibalt. Though he's probably not on Innistrad right now.

>>46011062
I suppose the main benefit is that it is a Wincon that can just sit in the graveyard until you need it.

>>46011097
>Tibalt
Ugh, no. I'd rather it be Koth when we finally meet up with him again.

>>46011097
>yfw Tibalt learns how to discard without it being random

>he turns into Bazaar of Baghdad in the process

>>46010951

I think this might be useful with multiple madness cards. Now we have to see which cards are good.

>>46011026
Is this a heron flight angel?

Real fucking shame it's awful

>>46011050
Fuck off Jimmy, you retarded fuck.

>>46010980
>>46010833

I think one anon worked out the math in a previous thread and Mill is basically like Burn, only you are trying to hit a much larger target than your opponent's life, and your spells can't double for controlling the board. While 3 damage is the sweet spot for Burn, 8 cards was the sweet spot for Mill. So while 13 cards is a tasty number, the four mana to make it happen is unfeasible.

The only thing mill had over burn is the fact that there are far fewer relevant cards for building back up your deck compared to gaining life.

>>46011097
>Tibalt shows up in Return to Ravnica 2: Electric Boogalo
>Goes full Rakdos

>>46010722
There are cards like these in every set, from Born of the Gods to fucking Mirrodin and original Zendikar. It's an intro pack rare, calm your ass down

>>46010956
I'm assuming you're new, seeing as that was litterally the dumbest thing I've ever read.

That's OK. We were all new once.

Force of will is the most played card in Legacy, and could easily be considered one of the best cards in the game. It easily deserves its $80 dollar price-tag.

You see, Force of Will actually costs 0 mana. Nobody plays it for 3UU. They exile a card and pay 1 life instead, which is a much better deal.

One of the benefits of Force of Will is that, since it costs 0 mana, it can be played when all your lands are tapped and your opponent thinks you can't counter their spells. It is this ability of Force of Will to be played whenever that truly makes it a staple among high-level Legacy play.

Now, next time you say something stupid, please lurk moar first.

>>46010754
There's only winners and losers old man. You wanna win and be the best? You have to play the best, and that shitty little Johnny spirit idea won't amount to shit against most EDH staples

>>46010833
>sorcery speed
>mana up

Sure bud

>>46010473
If the casting and activation cost were both 1 cheaper, this would be a great first pick. Now, I don't think I'd take it over common/uncommon removal.

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>>46011172
>>46010956

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>>46011114
Tibalt's deck in Sorin vs. Tibalt is R/B and Blightning even got new art depicting him, he's almost certainly going to be R/B if and when we see him again. I don't really see any reason for Koth to be R/B unless he's compleated but then he'd lose his spark.

>>46010567
I know it's trashy, but I'm sure some control deck will use it as a wincon and everyone will want it after that.

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>>46011141
Bite me, David, everybody knows what's really going on when your Mom visits Mr. Hannan after school for "academic counseling."

>>46010955
>Money is an infinite resource lmao
Lefties and commies to the pire.
WHEN?!

>>46011211
Dat manface

>>46010567
At best I could see it being used in a Phenax mill EDH.

>>46011199
>unless he's compleated but then he'd lose his spark.
It's because Mirrodin's Phyrexia branch is mostly Bant colored nowadays to spite Elspeth honestly.
Elesh Norn wrecked Urabrask and Sheoldred's domains and leashed Vorinclex and Augurman. So if there's anything left of the Resistance, the only mana they have to really draw on that isn't under Norn's control would be Mountains and Swamps.
Thankfully, R/B is really good at rebelling against stuff.

>>46011001
Blood Moon, ghostly prison, wrath of God, bolt helix path and outpost siege. Was much better when you could just twin a village bell ringer.

>>46011218
Do you want currency to have any value?

>>46011257
Better than the oriiginal ugly ass niggress face

>>46011211
angry girls don't look at explosions

I love that mythic sorcery. That's exactly what mythics should be, explorers of strange design spaces, not "MUST HAVE A PLAYSET" cards.

>>46011274

If currency has no value then everyone can have a scrooge mcduck money pit

That is the best of all possible worlds

>>46011281
>>46011257
>Taste that shitty

>>46011272
Red is pretty much the least Phyrexian color anyway. It's to obsessed with freedom to care about following a larger cause.

Going back to New Phyrexia could actually be rather interesting with R/B against W/U/G

>>46011211
Looks like someone spent way too much time adding detail to the face, but got too lazy when he reached the neck.

It would actually look better if the face was darker and in less focus than how it is now.

>>46011273
Also involves wishing they would print more cards like aether flash.

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>>46011125

As a player during the Torment days, I do love madness. I remember when Arrogant Wurm was the shit. But the thing about Madness, at least from my experience, is that it looks for enablers that have two particular traits:

A.) Has no additional cost for the effect other than discarding a card.
B.) Can be utilized multiple times.

While 1 Black isn't a terrible cost, the fact that you have to also sacrifice Sinister Concoction makes it fail the 2nd part of the test. The madness enablers I remember seeing play were cards like Wild Mongrel and Narcissism, which while they're just shitty pump effects, you can reliably utilize them throughout the game.

>>46011307
That shitty what? What am I supposed to be tasting?

>>46011272
>Urabrask wrecked
The nicest ones always get dicked over. It hurts.

Seriously, of what I've heard about him, Urabrask was a pretty cool guy considering he's a Praetor and all.

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>>46011026
This seems to be a new theme at Wizards R&D

>>46011320

Looking at the card, I'd say it was to make her features stand out a little better - her last cards felt a bit blurry because of the grey.

>>46011347
This has always existed with fucking precon rares, Christ people. Did you start playing just now or some shit

>>46009133

I see it happen in a Jeskai control shell :

Play Nahiri, plus her to dig for control spells, ultimate her to cast Emrakul, win.

Bonus point for awesome flavor too.

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>>46011218
>Not understanding what he was saying
Grades are an infinite resource, money is not. Thus there'd be no reason to redistribute the grades unless it was a group project.

>>46011336
It means you have shit taste to not like the Nahiri art, which is consistently pretty good.

>>46010722
>Its so fucking bad, even in draft i would try to pick something else.
>4/4 Flying
>that shits out two tokens a turn once it's online
>that also gains 4 life
This is a draft bomb you baddie.

>>46010567
The exploration of design space for this is rad as hell, but it's a little underwhelming otherwise

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>>46011369
Where were you when the green precon rare was actually pretty ok

>>46011335
You used:
Moeba (switch)
Mogrel (pump)
Putrid (flying)
Survival (Non-free but GREAT effect)
The most, and all of them where free or had a great effect.

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>>46011347

Holy shit I've seen some garbage rares but that takes the cake.

>>46009133
If people seriously think that this card is good but TiTi is bad, my sides will explode.

>>46011026
It's for commander, obviously

>>46011385
>Metaphors have to be 1-to-1!
>otherwise they don't count! (except when we do them!)

I do repeat myself.
Lefty and commie genocide when?

>>46011390

I mean, it wins the game if you get to turn eight, but that's a big fucking if.

I know this wont happen but it would be so cool if they gave Emrakul a humanoid incarnation and make it a planeswalker

>>46011335
when you say "can be utilized multiple times," does that mean more than once per turn?
Like, does Nahiri count, for example?

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>>46011429
>pulling that card as a promo in the pre release

>>46011390
>found maro

>Nahiri, Sorin and Werewolf cunt confirmed

Does this mean we've escaped getting a fucking Jace card?

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Interesting

>>46011469
Look up "Wild Mongrel."
Alternatively, look up "Psychatog."

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>>46011478
>no haste

>>46011443
>Comparing a finite and infinite resource is okay because it's a metaphor
>Even gave you a version of your bad metaphor that you could use
>"G-genocide when, am I right guys?"
Keep whining like a bitch.

>>46011345
>Seriously, of what I've heard about him, Urabrask was a pretty cool guy considering he's a Praetor and all.

Yeah - Urabrask was wasted potential. If his faction had grown to be the major check on Norn's power, it would be much more believable that the Mirran resistance could survive, and open up some interesting possibilities for future stories.

I'm hoping that Urabrask managed to escape, which is still possible - his remnants allied with Koth could be very interesting. Strange bedfellows and all that.

I'm also hoping - though I know it'll never happen - that he was sufficiently individual and lively to actually become a planeswalker.

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>>46011477

>>46011478
>>46011494
Litterally the perfect Madness activator

Now all we need are some good Madness cards

>>46011478
That actually seems pretty cool. Shame it gives them a turn to try and deal with it.

Pity it can't target players as well, although I can see why they didn't want it to.

>>46011478
Unplayable, and not even enough cool to justify the rarity. Next.

>>46011504
>maroreactstorealmagicplayers.jpg

>>46011478
Lack of haste is disappointing, but that thing is entertaining otherwise.
Madness better start getting decent soon.

>>46011502
Isn't Urabrask a she? Or is it Vorinclex?

>>46011512
High CMC would work too

>>46011494
Would have preferred 4/4 with Haste

>>46011478
meh

>>46011512
>>46011547
Yeah, some madness card with a weak effect, high CMC, but a cheap madness cost would be ideal.

>>46011497
>No spoilers so far are similar/fit the requirements
>No good madness spells revealed so far
Calling it now: madness will do nothing

>>46011478

>You're considered abominations because the majority of werewolves hunt and eat humans for sport, and the ones that don't are good people tormented by a terrible curse.

Bloody Lycanthrope apologists.

>>46011478
>no
>haste

ugh, could've been decent

>>46011512
>a 5CMC that does nothing when it enters the board in R
>anywhere close to decent

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>>46011406
Will other monsters get cards?

>>46011406

See, I like this guy. He's not a fucking Rhino, but every now and then you can have a 7/7 trampler fairly early in the game with a little ramping, and that's not so bad at all.

>>46011478

That one's kinda neat, actually. Given the standard it's in, every now and then it might be "surprise fuck-you Eldrazi Titan" for ten damage, while also enabling cheap madness cards.

>>46011553
Haste would have been incredibly strong

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>>46011469

Yes, but I also meant to a lesser degree that you could reuse it every turn, or also on your opponent's turns, that sort of thing.

This is an example of the sort of card I'm referring to.

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>>46011478
Sure, why not

>>46011478
>>46011494
>no haste
>that mana cost
>can't target a player

Bad

I'd rather run Dark Dwellers over this

>>46011211
I love how casually she dresses, despite being millenia old and antagonistic.

>>46011406
Probably the first non shit card in this thread..

>>46010926
Not counting mulligans your opponent has 29 cards on your turn 5 in limited. After casting this it's 15 on your 6th, 14 on your 7th when you get it to one and they have one turn to kill you.

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>>46011577
Well, we have Fiery Temper, that green wurm and pic related. At the first day of spoilers, that's something

>>46011659
Of course I'm ritarded, that wurm has delirium

>>46011600
How so? 7 mana to attack with a 4/4 and maybe kill a defender while losing a card (assuming you have something with CMC high enough to kill an enemy creature), since you will need even more than 7 mana to pay for a madness card (assuming you have one).

Is that what standard kiddies call "incredibly strong" now?

>>46011502
He's like the silver lining to Phyrexia, the rest of them are so full of zeal in wanting to make everyone like themselves or follow some twisted philosophy, but Urabrask is like the only one who seems to comprehend that forcing people down a certain path in life just breeds resistance to it.

Maybe he had a plan to subtly manipulate the Mirrans into joining him willfully and becoming compleated, but at least he wasn't being a psychotic borg about it from what I've heard. Plus maybe he'd have fostered a sort of middle ground between the two factions that could have been the greater of their constituent parts.

But then again there's something really corny sounding about good phyrexians.

>>46011640

Eh, the Nahiri's pretty nice in my opinion. WR is kinda hurting for draw (and the draw it gives in this set helps activate your madness cards for cheap), it can kill shit, and it's got a goodly amount of loyalty to redirect shit away from your face.

>>46011518
But anon, you ARE a planeswalker so it can hit players just like hero's downfall lets you destroy your opponent.

>>46011637
Perfect wife material

>>46011500
I cannot wait for the moment commies and the leftism mental illness destroys your country, then you'll come crying for a purge too.

>>46011699
there were multiple "good PHyrexians" in the plot.

>>46011648
Shit thought it costed 5.
Clock's the same, good to note you have two elastic turns to spend to not die during the process.

>>46011637
The nomadic culture of the Kor favor utility and bare necessity.

It also helps that if she really needed something else for a given situation, Nahiri's talent in lithomancy can fill in the blanks.

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>>46011612
>>46011610

See, look at these two. You have Wild Mongrel on the ground, now you can feasibly play 8 copies of Lightning Bolt. Mongrel is reuseable at any point of the game so you don't have to worry as much about having a copy of him around when Fiery Temper in your hand.

Although, to be fair, we already had Fiery Temper in Modern thanks to timeshift.

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>>46011406

>in b4 green into pack is the best of intro packs again

>>46011724

>Politics I disagree with are mental illness! We should just kill everyone who disagrees with us!

People like you are the reason political discourse is dogshit.

>>46011748
Definitely the same autist, dunno who did that shit art

>>46011600
All haste does is let it attack turn 5. You wouldn't be able to use the actual effect until the next turn anyway.

All haste does is prevents it from being a complete waste if it gets removed.

>>46011119

mfw this gets printed on EM

> Tibalt the Non-Gambler
> 2CMC - RR
> +1 Draw a card, then discard a card
> -X Deal X damage to target creature or player
> -6 Each player discard their hands. You draw cards equal to half the cards rounded down you discarded this way, then your opponent draw cards equal to your total cards in hard rounded down

Loyalty: 1

so you get the power to travel to one plane via portal of your own design, which plane do you go to? Ravnica seems stable and i want to be superhuman so i am willing to join the simic combine

>>46011788
both Pia and Kiran and Dywnen saw tourney play.

Drowner of Hope won a pro-tour.

shame they couldn't keep making competent intro-pack rares.

>>46011432

>play casual angel tribal
>not even sure if I want to use it

Angels actually have a lot of competition in EDH department.

>>46011744
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/stirring-slumber-2015-05-13

>The pounding of footsteps on the surrounding ground broke her concentration and she sighed. More vampires surrounded her, advancing slowly with long, curved swords drawn.

>"Do we have to do this?" she said. "It's getting tedious."

>One of them hissed. "You defile our—"

>"Fine," she said, and brought the walls down on them, then returned to her work.

They've done a fantastic job at making Nahiri seem terrifyingly powerful.

>>46011831
well she fucked Sorin's plane pretty easily too, now she's summoning Emrakul just to show off.

>>46011640
Did you blank on Not-vindicate?

>>46011794
Any lefty country is saved by the right, being homogeneous or is shit.

This is a fact.
t. national from a ruined country thanks to lefties and commies.

>>46010567

It can win the game by itself in limited.

That's about the extent of it though, and the same can be said about big durdly dragons.

>>46011809
It would be discard a card, then draw a card, like rummaging goblin

>>46011831
Incidentally I like how she's sorta getting the antagonist chair, is bearing the Red-White color identity, but it's not some sort of zealous fervor that drives her:

She's just Ajani Vengeant levels of really fucking pissed, perhaps even more than that.

It's a simple, very mortal kind of drive for someone who used to wield godlike amounts of power in the pre-mending days.

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>>46011699
>Good Phyrexians

>>46011859
Well Sorin WAS her mentor, and declaration in stone shows he only just now got wind of her.
She knows she can be stopped if she tries herself, so she's getting the hardest insurance she can.