CYOA

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>>44500028

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>>44500049

I really like this Disciples CYOA. If Only I had a group to GM in this setting.

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>>44500028
Race: Fairy

Perks:
- White Magic
- Illusion Magic
- Stealthiness
- Talisman
- Extra Time
- Luck

Protagonist: Battlemage

Hey, listen!

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>>44500074
Anyone know what happened to Thrallherd?

>>44500116
Still working on the new versions of the Conduit world pages, last I heard. Prison was more-or-less done, I think.

>>44500028
Elf - 5
White magic - 20
Elemental magic - Air - 30
Pet - 40 (otter, fully intelligent)
Luck - 50
Narrator - 100

>>44500049
The 'alpha' lifestyle doesn't sit with me so I'll just choose what I think is useful.
Option C
Option D so I can have a friend ;_;
Option D
Option D

>>44500062
Amlia because I'm a peace-loving hippy who just wants everyone to get along.

>>44500074
Enemy - I'm fucked whatever I choose but I'll go with Network.
Exhibition - So I can actually understand what's going on.
Officer - Because I can't fight.

I really like the thought put into this one.

>>44500116
I don't remember the Queen being there last time I saw this.

I choose Poland though.

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>>44500116
Let's get some more /pol/ in it

>>44500116
>Russian chick for looks
>Finnish chick for personality
>Swiss chick for how her friends will use the machine
>Polish chick is second place in both personality and national aspirations

I'd have to go with Switzerland. Their use of the machine is the most harmless. And even though Sonia Wyss wouldn't quite be my first pick for a waifu, she's still very awesome.

>>44500049
You know, for being described as "looks plain," Natasha looks great in her picture.

Anyway, I'd probably go B, A, D, and D
1: I already work out a fair bit. 10x gains would be insane.
2: Equipment, just for the sheer convenience.
3: Five more languages is probably the most ridiculously good pick in this whole CYOA based on general useful alone. Seriously, how many people could honestly say they speak seven languages?
4: Natasha. She's smart, really in to me, and her "downside" isn't actually in evidence.

>>44500492
who would be your first pick?

>>44500116
France. Hot waifu who shares my interests and is a great cook.

That or Brazil, because Brazil and France actually want to do something positive with the machine.

>>44500116
I was reading this CYOA and got to wondering how much of /tg/ is actually American. I guess an American wrote this CYOA because of the stuff about the Queen and how the USA waifu is described, but I could be wrong. I'd love to know how many people from other countries are writing CYOAs I would never have known weren't written by an American.

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>>44500611
>tfw no shurikens for sale

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>>44500539
>no more Italian food
>no more Chinese food
>positive
...m8

>>44500116
Poland wins on all fronts

>>44500655
Only english food gets totally obliterated.

>>44500589
There are a lot of Brits, like Highlander, Outer Worlds guy, Angelanon and Spadesy. And Scientist is from Australia.

>>44500633
Why would an ice witch have a load of starfish and shells stuck to her head?

>>44500116
Brazil's waifu is hot and funny, and if they make a world-wide party where everyone has fun, then her drawback isn't actually that bad. Travel the world and enjoy the party with a girl who is willing to try anything. Anything.

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>>44500589
Dane

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>>44500116
poland is best girl, and switzerland would also be a good option, but microsoft has to win.
i would legit trust bill gates to rule the world well.

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>>44501015
One day I'll figure out how to redo page 1.

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>>44501000
>Fancy Mansion
>leve 6 Demon

>>44501000
You spelled guarantee wrong again dude. Just grab the text and spellcheck it somewhere.

Still think it's a top CYOA.

>>44500943
>Erelyra
>Fancy Manor
>Sirens
>Styx HQ
I've been told I tend to spoil and pamper people, so might as well pamper a demon

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Ugh. Only been posted for a few hours and we've gone through 4 versions already. Hopefully this is the last.

>>44501072
>>44501075
Spellcheck is for pussies. Thanks guys.

Spellcheck aint actually for pussies.

>>44501139
see >>44501138
Azure seems nice too

>>44501145
I would love Azure if she was into more kinky stuff. I guess I can't complain since she represents sloth.

>>44501139
Now I want a harem with these girls where they all try to make you sign the contract to be their slave. They all fit harem tropes.

>>44501139
>the soil in hell is very fertile

That's pretty far form ideal for wine.

>>44501309
Is it?

Fuck it. It's magical Hell soil, it's good for everything.

Has anyone got the Space Reffuge CYOA? not sure if PDF or not

>>44501139
I'm in love with Kyleth. She might be pride, but she sounds like a bro.

I'm gonna enslave her of course, but I'd treat her well. Like marriage.

I'm gonna live in her gothic mansion and work at Styx HQ. I'll take Siren maids.

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>>44501414
Thanks mate, you're star!

>>44501435
No problem, it's one of my favourite CYOAs. Especially companion section, many interesting characters.

>>44500589
I'm a little confused, do you think non-Americans have shitty English, or are you just wondering if our phrasing is different / we have different prejudices etc.?
I think the only think that affects me is I don't know many idioms.

>>44501465
Which language is your mother tongue? There's a lot of parallel idioms throughout Western Europe.

>>44500655
>Poland wins on all fronts

I think this is accurate.

>>44500419
gib mystery box

Good mello and da uppity evening I bring you favor to make me crack fic called "the huntin of da butchered search engine and doom 2"

Starring theses plot elements

were bear
maralith
big fight 9
halo warthog
big fight 1
halfling rogue
big fight 3
fallout gatling laser
big fight 10
scene changes to warhammer fantasy
i am caught in a underword firefight 40k plasma pistol
succubus paladin
Chest of gold
big fight 6 obtained armored void suit journey ends

>>44501789
Why won't you just leave forever and not come back?

>>44500589
I don't believe too many Americans say "maths".

>>44501536
I already told you, Danish.

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>>44499670
>wants to get on the cyoa maker waifu cyoa
>grossed out at being waifu'd
Why? It's like... the explicit purpose of the thing. The waifu-er in question just answered the questions given right in the cyoa itself.

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>>44501139
>Erelyra
>Poolside Villa
>Balrog Bodyguards
>Erelyra's Bank

I've been enamored with the idea of hell as big business ever since Broquest.

anyone got the cyoa where a bunch of families are offering you wife and wealth because you got magic blood?

they all have some magic power (jews can smell money, africans do voodoo, etc) and you could blow them all off and go for the street urchin telling you all this.

as I recall it was pretty basic and had a grey background.

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>>44502026
In the hope that this doesn't turn into a thing, I'm the person who wrote >>44499237 and >>44499342.

I apologize if I made things weird. I was just tired of that CYOA being an author drama magnet and thought it would be fun to see it actually played straight and sort of romantic for once instead of just using it as an excuse to bitch at each other. I honestly didn't think my treatment was too R-rated in light of what sorts of themes are commonplace here.

Again, I want everyone and Spadesy in particular to know that I'm really very sorry if people found it went far beyond the pale.

>>44501139
Thanks for making this

>>44501139
How did you come up with the names for the demons?

>>44502197
You are literally the only one I have ever seen who bitched about the CYOA. Christ you're insufferable and deserve whinyness 10/10 if you were on it.

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>>44502197
oh, bunny... you are too adorable for this place.

>>44501746
You want funny or nice?

>>44502410
Fantasy name generator. Though, I usually splice up names from the suggestions generated rather than copy-paste to make them sound better.

http://fantasynamegenerators.com/

Seriously, I love this website. Helps when you have a shitload of names to come out with. I used it for SD.

>>44500505
Probably Russian chick for waifu if I could disregard global Soviet Empire.

>>44502494
Same. She and the Jap waifu are the best. Too bad their political systems are shit.

>>44501139
Gluttony
Extended Contract

every day is overdose day

>>44502448
What? I've never complained about that CYOA. Who do you think I am? What are you talking about?

>>44502474
mmm come again?

>>44502492
Oh nice. I've used it before, but I didn't know it had this many.
Christ, it can generate backstories, item descriptions and make quests... Randomized CYOA when?
You can make goddamn armor, a coat of arm, an emblem
Fucking christ all mighty.

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>>44502492
Thanks, bro. I've used name generators before, but that site looks a lot better.

>>44502492
Sandra? You made this >>44501139 in two fucking days? Holy shit.

>>44502613
> I want everyone and Spadesy in particular to know that I'm really very sorry if people found it went far beyond the pale.
That's adorably sweet.
>>44502492
So anon, who would you pick?
>used it for SD
whait what?
What?
I kinda understand now why I felt "this is supposed to be SDA, right?" twice.

>>44502411
Oh i guess that is an unfinished version, i recall there was a finished one, but can't find it.

>>44502671
>>44502685
Yeah, it's me. Sometimes I forget I don't tell everyone these things. I know I told some people on the IRC but I was pretty drunk last night.

>>44501139
>You only get powers if you enslave your previous mistress
>Even though your blood is of a higher purity than most others

Oh well. Still going with Mhyrienne and getting her powers. Lyleth is tempting since she can do a bit of everything and I want to imagine that since she's clearance 4 and I'm clearance 6 that means I'm able to use the other powers at an equal, or close to it, strength that the clearance 5's can. But that's probably not the case, and I don't want my shapeshifting to be limited.

Taking the Pool-side villa too, since none of the others mentioned having a pool. Changeling maids too, since variety is the spice of life. Or death, I suppose, as the case may be. I'll work at Styx HQ too, it doesn't seem too bad and there's no novelty to wear off after a while like there is with the Colosseum.

>>44502765
this is bullshit. I can't compete with you.

>>44502197
I'm the person in question and I don't mind at all. It's just a Cyoa and policing other people's fantasies is silly.

>>44501139
Mhyrie a goddamned cute.

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>>44502835
Their fantasies are one thing. How they act on their fantasies is another. If you don't mind there is not much I can say, but I think people should have enough basic respect to not be totally disgusting.

>>44501139
Felira
Hellish Castle
Changelings
Valhalla Colosseum

I'll practice for the Colosseum on all those 7th circle demons. Turnabout on Felira will be fun as well.

>>44502572
I was hoping someone would pick Daeliph.

>>44502805
Oh, no, I meant to imply that you do get powers if you don't choose to enslave your mistress. You're a level 6 demon, after all. I should've added that blip in.

>>44502983
Class
>Death Knight
Weapon
>Staff of Aether
Powers
>Necromancy level 4
>Deception level 4
>Chaotic level 1
Companions
>Necromancer
Residence
>Ancient Tower

I'm just gonna chill in my tower researching the art of the dead with my fellow necromancer, and lure unsuspecting peasants to the tower with my illusions for experimentation

>>44501139
Could you tell me how many words the intro is, and how many words you have under one of the girls + the text under their job and house?

>>44501139
>Lyleth
>Floating Fortress
>Changelings
>Be My Slave

So obviously the long term goal here is to be Big D’s big D. The best way to do that is to get an eye on everything that’s coming into or going out of the city: enter Lyleth. With her control of the point of entry and her finger on the admin side of things, she’s in a great position to provide information whatever’s going on in Hell. Also? Giant tits and anal is winning. Also her jack of all trades abilities when wielded by her, and passed on to me, will allow me to get an idea of how to use all manner of operatives.

The changelings are great for reasons both lewd, do I need to explain this?, and practical.

The flying fortress is just all manner of pimp, which should impress Big D and provide a degree of mobility.

And finally, the career: Be Her Slave. It’s a risk, that’s for sure, but lookit her; she’s all kinds of amazing, and she runs a massive empire. That’s hot for a variety of reasons. So I build my little empire of intel and bureaucracy and use it to help The Boss.

Imma fan of this CYOA; thanks for making it.

>>44500992
>Identity
Erika Marte
she seems the happiest of the bunch
>Family
Foster parents
so no one tries to micromanage me
>Siblings and Friends
Protective big brother
Nerd
>Bonus
Extra cuteness
W.I.T.C.H
Rich
>Quests
Alien Integration
Get your brother a girlfriend

Young, rich, magical, and good-looking. Seems like a nice life.

>>44501139
I'd like to be able to pick a power rather than being stuck with the one our mistress had.

>>44501139
>Felira
>Hellish Castle
>Succubi
>Valhala Colosseum
Warrior Waifu for laifu
but Mhyrienne and Lynneth are also cute, I'm just don’t think I would really appreciate all that they would offer

>>44500649
Faction
>The Red Dominion
Race
>Orc
Disciplines
>Melee x2
>Defense x3
Skills
>Two Handed
>Attrition
>Knight
>Rogue
>Charge
Items (60g)
>Longaxe (-8g)
>Helmet (-7g)
>Plate Armor (-20g)
>Gauntlets (-10g)
>Nice Boots (-5g)
>Wanderer's Cloak (-10g)
Boons
>Powerful Weapon
>Strange Animal
Drawbacks
>Disfigured
>No Companions
Quests
>The Storming of Gurk's Shield
>Our King's Ascent
Final Foe
>The Golden Horde
Stats
>STR 18
>AGI 6
>CON 11
>LUK 6
>INT 4
>WIS 4
>CHA 2

>>44503982
I want to befriend all three of them.

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>>44502832
It's really all in a matter of practice with photoshop. It took me years but I just ended up eventually learning a whole bunch of cool tricks. My suggestion is to make a really big CYOA and make it as graphically impressive as you can.

Most of my techniques involve blending options on layers, image/layer clipping, and very careful colour choices. Seriously, the colours you pick make a big impact.

Here's a timelapse on how I made the name bar things.

>>44503697
Intro has exactly 360 words with 1931 characters.

All the text under Erelyra counts up to 478 words, or 2544 characters.

Why do you want to know? I'm curious. I can release the .psd if you'd like, as well.

>>44503945
When I release the next update (more text fixes), it'll have a blip in Big D's text that you'll eventually develop your powers. What they are is entirely up to you.

>>44501139
>Mhyrienne
>Floating Fortress
>Changelings
>Valhalla Colosseum
Mhyrienne seems like the nicest option and when i gain her power i can change into any kind of monster to fight in the colosseum.

>>44504055
You and your self-inserts

>>44504035
yes anon that would be nice

Posting version 1.0.4. Just some more simple text changes and also a blip in Big D's text that now says you get your own powers if you don't choose to enslave your mistress.

>>44504162
Here's the .psd. It's 58.2mb large:

https://mega.nz/#!VZUFhDKT!NTW-oEY7Nxe1PpVx5aPU9TOrxMkZ72RnAqRJGgp6MQ4

And for anyone who cares, most of the art I used for the demons are from this artist:
http://dantewontdie.deviantart.com/

Unfortunately, most of it is touhou fanart.

>>44504055
>Big D
I wouldn't mind hearing more from or about her, as >>44503741 was my build and is my plan.

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>>44504055
how do I slow this down?
>make a really big CYOA
On whose standards? Three pages was plenty long for me.
I mean, I think this looks really cool, and that's just a blur on rectangles at top/bottom and the sides
Most of the words you use mean nothing to me.

Just curiosity. My intro right now is 2400 characters. I felt reading the whole thing in one go was a bit of a drag. No wonder, it's a full A4 page.
And nah, I don't need it. It doesnt' show me how you did thinks, or why you did it or what you thought while doing it.

Regarding powers in your cyoa, do you mean you can pick from any of the girls', or a generic "whatever you can think up" ?

>>44504256
you want the Big D uh?

>>44501139

How far can you interrupt the lives of your slaves? I mean it says that they still have their jobs and homes so I assume that means they can't come live with you while they work at their jobs? Or that you now own their property as well? I mean I guess they can't stop you from living at their place.

Also if Mhyrienne is your slave and you get changeling powers can you permanently switch your form to a cute little girl?

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>>44504247
Of course, I'd forget to actually post the image. Here it is.

>>44504188
I wish I was a sexy demon girl with sexual powers.

>>44504300
Whatever you can think up of.

>>44501139
Mhyrienne
Floating Fortress
Balrogs
Valhalla Colosseum (should be interesting one with new demon powers and Mhyrie`s tech)
>>44504055
I suggest adding Big D`s template similar to other girls and more job options and/or possibility of doing same job as previous mistress had.
Really love that CYOA.

>>44504309
She's da best. And, yes, I would like to sling as much of my D at Big D as possible.

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>>44504055
>That best girl at the end of that gif there

>>44500028

Fairy, all magic choices, Luck, Lone-Wolf Anti-Hero.

Excitement, adventure and explosions ahoy!

>>44504300
>how do I slow this down?

Grab someting that edits animated gifs, look at each frame at your leisure.

>>44504312
As soon as they're out of work, they're all yours, anon. Lock them up in your sex dungeon if you want.

I really don't know what to do with the properly. I'd say it's technically still theirs.

Mhyrienne is the obligatory little girl option.

>>44504376
>>44504256
>>44504381
Considered it, but I wanted to keep Big D a little vague. Make her out to what you want her to be.

>>44504391
I have a thing for redheads.

>>44504300
>how do I slow this down?
Oh yeah. Just open up the gif in photoshop and each frame will load as a layer. Or, this >>44504423

>>44504448
>Considered it, but I wanted to keep Big D a little vague. Make her out to what you want her to be.
Fair enough.

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>>44500028
>Race
0 - Human
>Perks
15 - Princess
05 - Money
10 - Palace
20 - Weapon Master (all)
15 - White Magic
10 - Elemental Magic (Air)
10 - Illusion Magic
30 - Mind Magic
05 - Artist
10 - Stealthiness
15 - Talisman
10 - Luck
>Protagonist
+50 - Lone Wolf Anti-Hero

Believe it or not, I'm not just being a whore for points. I've always had a wet spot for the Lone Wolf Anti-Hero, and the uphill battle to get him to, you know, "cleave" to me. Ever since I was little. That and I just like being human, especially if I can control my age for free. You almost got me with your "Me" option right at the end, though. Like it was really close. Dark Lord a respectable third.

I'm also holding out a tiny hope that Elemental Magic (Air) will let me fly or least glide or something cool like that.

>>44504277
>Myhrienne
I could probably influence her a lot, as well as learn science from her job. At the end, I'd probably forgo enslaving her in favor of just coming over and subtly teasing her every once in a while.
>Floating Fortress
Customized so it's just a little bit bigger than Myhr's.
>Balrogs
I don't really care if my humongous fortress isn't sparkling clean, watching them try to be cute would more than make up for it.
>Styx HQ
If I could net myself a place at wherever Myhrene works, I would. Otherwise, this should get enough vacation days to be worthwhile.

My demon power would hopefully end up being something bullshit like improvement, but I'd be satisfied with most anything.
I'd definitely make sure to sidle my fortress up by Mhyrienne's occasionally and 'chat' with her.
If I could, I'd also drive it all the way up to Limbo (with supertech assistance) to pick up some random shmucks so I'm not as lonely.

>>44504585
>I'd definitely make sure to sidle my fortress up by Mhyrienne's occasionally and 'chat' with her.
Drive-by demon insults in Hell. I'll admit, I laughed.

I don't think you need to go to limbo to get people. You're a demon now, why not forge your own contracts?

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>>44504055
>release the .psd
Please! I'm working on a really large cyoa for a different genre of my own and while the presentation is decent, it's nowhere near the quality of yours. Clipping masks are a true godsend in ps.

>>44504671
See >>44504247

>>44504735
whoops, guess I got too excited

>>44501139
Lynneth

Floating Fortress
Fallen Angels
Be My Slave

First and foremost, I like how Lynneth immediately comes off as though she legitimately loves you already. I also like her castle. Next, none of the other job postings are exceedingly appealing to me, so why not be the slave of the Demon who runs the whole show. I'd probably get a lot of perks from that, and it seems like she's already taken a liking to me or is pretty much a bro. I also get to keep Lynneth as a slave and perhaps even help rule Hell one day.

>>44504448
>I have a thing for red heads
Yes, this is becoming obvious now.

>>44500049
1 B. 10x Gains
2 A. Always Available Equipment
3 D. Languages (Korean, Icelandic, Armenian, Bulgarian, Arabic)
4 A. Jessica (dumb, hot, threesomes, anal)

>>44504350

I go with Mhyrienne. Even if I were not to be a higher level she is right up my ally. If not her either Lynneth (for kink factor) or Aezureth (for bro factor). Get to snuggle and I tell her how pretty she is. Wearing a chastity belt will be an annoyance but as long as she keeps me edging the payoff will be worth it. Plus I bet she can design a pretty nifty one.

After the year I would enslave her though. Just for her powers and to become the little girl. And to guarantee that I can try some yuri action if she is a bit reluctant. I would much rather she was into it and if she is really against it I won't force her besides once or twice at the start. Can't be sure she will really hate it until she tries it right? Eh we are in hell morals went out the window long ago. Still won't do anything really lewd like hand holding unless she is fine with it and we have been going for a while. Otherwise I will just hang out with her trying to be her friend and help her on any projects she is working on. She seems like a really nice girl And I really think she is pretty and will tell her all the time <3

I pick a sky castle to live in and just dock it with Mhyrienne's making it a super sky castle. I guess I get Fallen Angels as maids. Don't really care which ones I get and I doubt I will use them at all for funtime unless Mhyrienne is really turned off by girls. I end up getting a job at Valhalla Colosseum and use my shapeshifting powers to spice up the fights. Match that up with Mhyrienne's inventions and that will make for quite a show.

>>44500255
>Ce-ci n'est pas une CYOA.

>>44504938
Angel go home.

>>44504350
>I wish I was a sexy demon girl with sexual powers.
Greedy. I'd settle for being a girl.

>>44504977

If I was angel I would not need shapeshift... wait. Nevermind I remember the conversations now.

>>44504350
>Lyleth
Fucks sake anon

>>44505038

>anon
>not realizing its Sandra

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>>44505052
This is 4chan, anon, everyone is anon.

>>44504643
>You're a demon now, why not forge your own contracts?
Because shut up is why.

>>44504350
I don't know why the one without horns is making a big deal. Half of the others have little wings coming out of their heads.

I mean can you imagine growing up with something like that? They would be bullied on general principles. "What, is your head going to fly away? Nerd."

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>>44505052
She doesn't have white hair, though.

>>44505038
What's wrong with Lyleth?

>>44505314
If you're going to make up a stupid spelling at least also make up your own word to go with it.

>>44504448
>Having to let them go every day to work a job.
Can't you get them fired or something?

>>44505314
probably the y
I dunno it's not like she's THE Lilith anyway

>>44505337
She wouldn't necessarily be the original Lilith even if her name was spelled Lilith.

>>44500116
>Switzerland: Sonia Wyss
Only acceptable character in terms of written traits, and pretty good in terms of physical appearance.

>>44500419
Elisha Cuthbert, every time - wait, this is really different, I need to read this... mm-hmm... ok, alright... huh I see... After all that change, Column B wins anyway. Had me wondering for a bit there, though.

>>44501139
>no guys
1/10 this is literally hell.

>>44501139
Is Mhyrienne a virgin?

>>44505354
You still need to choose three options from it. Now it's got 7 in all.

>>44505372
>What is Mhyrienne
>What is Lynneth

>>44505333
Remember what I said when I first posted this CYOA?

>>44505337
This >>44505353

It's just a name. Besides, I've actually been pronouncing it "lie-leth". I didn't even think of her being a lilith when I made her.

>>44505396
Would you believe me if I said they're all pure?

Except maybe Lynneth

>>44505396

Highly unlikely. She is a shapeshifting demon who could fulfill anyone's desires. Only if she is completely uninterested in sex (which looks doubtful considering she has kinks) would she still be a virgin.

However I would be interested in Sanda's opinion.

>>44505431
>Remember what I said when I first posted this CYOA?
No.

>It's just a name. Besides, I've actually been pronouncing it "lie-leth". I didn't even think of her being a lilith when I made her.
Then make it more obvious in the spelling.

>>44505431
doesn't she, the Demon of Lust, say she hasn't had a lover before?

>>44505434
>it's impossible to be attractive and a virgin at the same time

>>44505420
Those two? Women.

>>44505431
>Would you believe me if I said they're all pure?

I knew you wouldn't let me down, sensei.

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>>44505431

>spoiler text

>>44505472
>Shapeshifting
>Runs unisex brothel
You can still have your fill of cock.

>>44505459
I meant that in the sense that she'd be most likely to have done the deed before. In my head canon, she's still pure.

>>44505454
I made this unserious CYOA in two days.

Nah.

>>44505564
But anon, i don't have a carving for cock, i just don't really like female shapes.
especially breasts
i am scum, i know

>>44505434
>Virgins can't have favorite fantasies that develop into kinks

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>>44501139
Speaking of demon-themed ones, this one exists. Long-winded and pretentious, but at least it's different.

>>44505575
How can her litteraly saying she's never had a partner and has saved herself for a "special someone", possibly mean she's definitely fucked before?

>>44505582
What? You want men but no cocks?

>>44505631
>men
rather guys/boys.

And yes, i generally prefer androgyny to masculine/feminine sexual characteristics.

>>44505622
I don't know. But she's the demon of lust, so I was just putting it out there.

I never explicitly state who's pure in the CYOA. That's up to you.

>>44505650
how does that even work?
>>44505664
What, are you telling me an archdemon trying to make a deal with me that will make me their slave, would like to me?

>>44505622
Easy, she could just be talking about emotional attachment.

>>44505692
>how does that even work?
It's a fetish, anon. It's based on a random collection of impressions, not on any kind of logical structure.

>>44505692
I don't HATE cocks, in fact i find them to be less disgusting than vaginas. However, I do not have a craving for them.
And i don't like them to be HUGE MASSIVE MONSTROUS COCKS OF DOOM either.

You know... trap mode stuff.

>>44505734

Just pick Mhyrienne. If you having her powers can make you into the little girl then she can become the cute shota trap.

>>44505734
You're gay, son.

>>44505782
Could be a girl.

I get more of a pedo vibe desu

>>44505591
Do I get to choose the specifics of the blueprints beyond what's outlined, such as where they live in their countries of citizenship? I'm not picking Cat Sellers if she lives in London or Rotherham.

>>44505782
>You're gay, son.
HOLY SHIT! YOU'RE RIGHT!

****Tune in next time, when /tg/ discovers that water is wet.

>>44505797
that might also be true anon.

>>44505779
But what if she doesn't want to. She's a demon.
Also, i don't wish to be the little girl.

>>44505820
Yes. That's intentionally up to you. Small things like residence are your choice, though of course within reason.

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>>44505011
Angel wouldn't need shapeshift to /u/boat. But she might want it anyway.

>>44505797
Same here.
>>44505847
If she wants to fuck you, and you can only get off to children with small willies, I'm sure she'd be accommodating.

>>44504350
I want to like Mhyrienne, but I don't want things shoved in my ass. So that's disappointing.

>>44505914
She doesn't need me to get off though. She just wants to fuck me.
Also i'm not only into shotas.

>>44505962

I am thinking more milking machines and such rather then anal probes. Really it is vague enough to do either.

>>44504350
How does Lyleth's not as good version of Empress work?

Cupboard with no time elapsing?

Dimension where time elapses slowly?

>>44504448
Angry Redheads is your fetish?

>>44505962
>I want to like Mhyrienne, but I don't want things shoved in my ass.
Already rationalized how you might avoid being on the recieving end of anything you don't like.
>>44498898
>>44499064

>>44506002
The intent is pretty obvious here. When people say 'toys', they mean dildos. Which is gross.


My other choices are
>Violent asshole
>Asshole celebrity musician
>Someone who smells like a wet fishy asshole
>Slut
>Bitchy businesswoman
>Party whore
>SDA

None of which are my type or things I like. The nerdy one that'd normally be a good choice is ruined by also being the one that makes you do gay shit.

>>44506036
Keep in mind, the nerd has self-esteem issues. You could probably convince her to not stick anything anywhere you don't want, so long as you pay enough attention to her enough.

>>44506080
That seems too tenuous to be a trustworthy conclusion.

>>44506036

First again that does not 100% mean dildos. There is wiggle room for each girl anyway.

Second even if it is only dildos its just for a year. Suck it up pansy. Still better then the other choices and you don't really have an option to say no.

>>44506098
I'm not going to choose to get raped in the ass for a year.

>>44506036
She also says that she just wants to try the "toys" out, and is fine if they're used on her instead of by her. So you could take the dominant role in the relationship and never get anything put into you that you didn't want to, as long as you were putting things into her.

Rolled 1 (1d8)

>>44506112

Well then roll a d8. Hell I will do it for you.

>>44506036
Only because you choose to interpret each choice that way. You only have yourself to blame for n good choices.

>>44506136
That's just a basic statement of their personality though. That's their archetype. Except for the one where I just bitched about how she smelled, which is an assumption derived from how she doesn't shower.

>>44505962
Hey, I already said that.

>>44506173
Great minds think alike and all that.

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>>44505431
>Spoiler
Awww yeah son

>>44505999
Luckily I don't know what that is other than fetishshit.

>>44506190
shota is the male counterpart of loli

>>44506190
It's little boys. You're welcome. :^)

>>44506124
>Dominant
you're a slave anon.

>>44506162
I don't think so bud.

>Violent asshole
Explicitly stated to be "very protective" of you
>Asshole celebrity musician
Explicitly stated to be friendly and fun to be around
>Someone who smells like a wet fishy asshole
Basically what you said.
>Slut
Explicitly stated to never have had a partner before
>Bitchy business woman
I kind of agree here.
>Party whore
Eh, pretty accurate I guess. But this isn't necessarily a bad thing.
>SDA
What? Are you saying you wouldn't an SDA? Fag.

>>44500116
Poland will finally into space, with help from the machine,

>>44506269
Only legally. You could turn that around in the actual interaction with her.

>>44506232
And? This doesn't mean that she's actually a dom herself.

>>44506124
Dang nammit, now I have to figure out if Azure's cozy life with the best kink is still be best option

>>44506269
>Explicitly stated to be "very protective" of you
In his defense, she says she wants to test if sex is a stress reliever, that she wants to fuck, that she's aggressive after bad night at the job and her power is being unstoppable.
She will rape you.

>>44506371
>She will rape you.
>Implying it's rape if it were me
I will welcome wrathful sex with Felira with open arms, forceful or not.

>>44506371
Some people are into that ya know.

>>44506269
>Explicitly stated to be "very protective" of you
It also says she'll take her anger out on you.
>Explicitly stated to be friendly and fun to be around
She has an aura of superiority and makes you feel inferior. She'll also make you do what you don't want to.
>Basically what you said.
At least we agree on this.
>Explicitly stated to never have had a partner before
Her personality is 'slut' though, even if she's a virginal one.
>I kind of agree here.
Guess that's 2/8.
>Eh, pretty accurate I guess. But this isn't necessarily a bad thing.
3/8. And it's not that it's a bad thing, is that I don't like it. Pretty much just why I'm disappointed in Mhyrienne.
>What? Are you saying you wouldn't an SDA? Fag.
I'd feel weird banging the CYOA maker.

>>44506269
Who is "smells like wet fish"? The lazy one?
Her only downsides are falling asleep during sex, and low self esteem… have you seen her? How could she think I wouldn't be attracted to her body?

>>44506436
It says she doesn't clean.

>>44506162
It doesn't say that, she says she doesn't clean. Like the house.

>>44506475
That sounds delusional anon.

>>44506445
As in, her loft above the shop. She place is way messier than that pic, but you can probably clean up if you want to.

>>44506406
Literal rape or pretend rape?
I've never heard of anyone intentionally going into a dark alley at night in a dress that's easy to rip off, but maybe you're right.

>>44501004
>Contract
I know a lot of susceptible souls that I can use to get stuff, I don't know what you trade contracts for but I'm sure I can work it out.
>Tongues
>Paths
>Health
These will either make my life better or make me a better contract negotiator.
>Door
I'd like to appear, it would lend credence to my reality shifting contract abilities.

No Companion for me.

>>44506509
Anon your waifu is this CYOA's smelly neet pussy.

>>44506486
"She doesn't wash" or "she doesn't shower" would mean she's a neck beard minus being ugly and having a beard.
That's not what it says

>>44506556
Synonyms.

>>44505906
But none of them are actually talking about rape in that screenshot...

>>44506575
Ah, the old, "I am right, you are wrong, there is nothing you can say to make me change my mind and I will repeat the same lines over and over again until you stop caring and I win"

>>44506431
I should clarify, with regards to Azure I agree with your own assessment that you were just assuming she never smells. Not that I agree with you that she does.

>It also says she'll take her anger out on you.
Only if you provoke her or otherwise give her a reason to. A lot like any angry person.
>She has an aura of superiority and makes you feel inferior. She'll also make you do what you don't want to.
Chances are it's going to be pretty fucking normal to feel inferior to the most popular rock star in Hell. It's also pretty much established that all you're really going to be forced to do for her is do roadie shit.
>Her personality is 'slut' though, even if she's a virginal one.
Virgins can't be sluts, anon.

>>44506620
Dude she's literally the smelly neet pussy option.

>>44506553
Not even my pick from the choices, I'm just willing to take the bait because your lack of reading comprehension is annoying.

>>44501139
Felira
Floating fortress.
Changelings
Valhalla Colosseum.

This is going to be fun as hell. aww hell yes.

>>44506628
The core of it is just that I don't like those personalities, really. If you like them or don't mind their downsides that's fine, it's just not a good choice for me. The one with the personality I do like though, is also the one who wants to put things in your butt. And that's bad. To me.

>>44506620
Just ignore them, it's obviously bait. Why else would they complain about having a shitty interpretation of an intentionally vague description?

>>44506684
The personalities are intentionally open-ended so you can interpret them in the way that appeals to you most. This is a staple of CYOA's.

>>44506700
Because their brand of "autism" insists their reading is right and anyone who says different is obviously baiting them? To great success?

>>44500116
Either Brazil or Bill Gates. Honestly, not because of the Wafus (Brazil is to skinny, and we'd probably break up quickly, as I don't like to travel too much, and the robot is... well... a robot) but because they are the only two that are going to genuinely create a better world.

>>44505431
is Big Dick pure too?

>>44506732
That's why in my statement on them I tried to distill it down to the basic component, though. Felira for example, always has a bad temper, no matter what else you interpret about her. Lynneth is always sexual. Daeliph always likes parties. That I put them into a negative light is just that I don't like those.

>>44506580
Pretty sure rape talk is what lead to into that.

>>44506684
>...machines I'd like to try on you.
Yeah, sounds like good odds something is going in somewhere. But with her super tech it might be a mechanized onahole or some robo-sluts too.
>Or...or you to try on me.
Yeah, I don't think she's going to mind if you wanted to take charge. Really she seems like she'd be happy if you strap her into her machines and tell her how perfect she is just as Electrostim Cycle #1 starts up.

>>44506816
Or possibly some sort of sex "laser" or some kind of implant that enhances some kind of thing.

I hear the vibrate option is popular.

>>44506816
I'd say it's more likely that it's onaholes and robosexmaids that she'd like to try on you. After all she can easily try out any dildos or anal beads on herself.

>>44506868
>>44506887
>>44506816
Three words: Mind-altering chemicals.

>>44505052
Seriously when became the name sandra a thing?

>>44506916
On Christmas.

>>44506916
Some anon made a Christmas waifu CYOA with waifus based on CYOAAs.
Sandra was the mystery box.

>>44506902
Could be interesting, and she's clearly not going to do anything permanent, or she wouldn't be so concerned about your compliments. She needs you to be genuine, otherwise just having a computer dispense random praises would have been enough.

>>44506944
I'd like to put it in Sandra's mystery box.

>>44506916
>>44506944

And then SDA when finishing Star Dust Final posted under Sandra rather then SDA. So forever now she is Sandra.

>>44506996
Yes, but getting you totally-not-drunk to find your true feelings wouldn't be out of character.

>>44507011
I nearly regret having 40 derees fever then.

Also I sincerely approve of Sandras redhead fetish. You're a fem-bro Sandra

>>44507092
>40 degrees
>A fever
Are you Victor Fries or something?

man lots of talk over that hell roommate cyoa. speaking of, who agree's that Felira, warrior woman, incarnate of rage, owner of valhalla, is best girl?

and that myth's cons are harsh.

>>44507155
Celsius dude

>>44507201
It's more fun to imagine Mr. Freeze complaining about his temperature on 4chan.

>>44507212
Okay. Now imagine the second line was the reason

>>44507167
I do.

Is it wrong I can't stop staring at Mhyrienne's tight ass?

>>44507411
It would be wrong not to.

>>44504350
I can't tell: Is Erelyra about giving or receiving?

>>44507431
Up to your interpretation.

>>44507431
Yes.

>>44505591
The "Blueprint" lives really aren't that much better than my own to the point that throwing my current one away would be worth the switch, even ignoring the strings attached. Which makes me wonder if that's possibly the point, maybe the blueprints are just swapping around, such that if you take the deal, that makes your own life available as a blueprint to the next person.

...But some of those items are actually really useful if used right, The coffee cup in particular has two pretty simple workarounds for it's "Plagerism" drawback. One is just to use public domain shit. Shakespeare, Poe, Caroll, Lovecraft, etc. The other is to use original material to begin with, hire some mediocre writers to spew off some shit for you, then re-write it better with the cup.

You could easily make a living with that cup. I'd consider a deal just for the damn cup.

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I've been away for two days, what did I miss?

>>44507615
Demon waifus.

>>44507615
New hell roommate cyoa that's really great but some faggots are over- analyzing to death...

>>44507615
SDA made a new CYOA

>>44507625
>>44507640
>>44507699
Thank you, glad I did not miss a whole lot of things.
I've noticed that some people found out that it's made by SDA, I wonder how they do that.

>>44507732
If it involves buttstuff, it's by SDA.

>>44507732

I hear he slipped it in IRC. Next he mentioned when making Star Dust in one of his posts. And then there are all the anal references.

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>>44507411
:^)

So when is Archangel waifu cyoa coming out?

>>44507843
Whenever SDA has it ready i guess

>>44507839

Thank you anon. If you are SDA I love you ^_^

>>44507805
Also the great design/layout.

>>44501139
Reminds me of another one with the same premise. Some demon gets your soul as a slave but it wasn't limited to powerful ones and they were overall less waifuy and they'd reshape you to suit their preferences.

As for this one, Kyleth seems like the best fit for me skill wise because I'm a musician myself so I'd know how to handle the equipment and can do recording studio work. I'm actually a fairly strong dude so hauling around equipment's no problem. So it wouldn't be a bad gig for me at all.

Mhyrienne doesn't even seem to come with duties. She specifically wants you to stay out of her way while she's working and stays in the lab for days at a time, so I'd probably have a shit ton of free time. You basically just need to tend to her insecurities and maybe run errands and shit for her.

So it'd be one of those two.

But then with the meta knowledge of the one year later thing, I'd definitely take Mhyrienne. Because if you turn the tables on her, then you can have her work on whatever gadgets you like AND you get shapeshifting powers.

Then I can get the Floating Fortress and we can just stay as neighbors. All those job openings are unessesary since I'm pretty sure I can just start my own business mass producing and marketing some of Mhyrienee's more marketable inventions. I guess I can start with "Retail" and rent out a storefront to do so from.

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>>44508042

>>44507745
>>44507805
Got it. I thought he was going to make a fantasy cyoa next but I suppose he got kinky.
That said, I decided to roll my choice and got Kyleth, which is interesting. I like music as much as next man but I really suck at anything related to it beside casual listening. Back in school I always had very high grades in all subjects, except music which I always go the lowest rating possible (no, I did not slack it). Wonder if she will be able to make a musician out a zero talented guy like myself.

>>44508129
>I thought he was going to make a fantasy cyoa next but I suppose he got kinky.
I am.

This was just a small project I decided to do on a whim, for fun.

>>44508042
>>44508129
Kyleth is a good girl.

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Anyone heard any news about this one?

>>44508163
>Make small CYOA for fun
>Instant success
Goddammit SDA

>>44508215
>waifus
>pure
>anal
Literally what could go wrong

>>44508196
Nope, not a peep.

>>44508042

>But then with the meta knowledge of the one year later thing, I'd definitely take Mhyrienne. Because if you turn the tables on her, then you can have her work on whatever gadgets you like AND you get shapeshifting powers.

Well still after the one year is up I am sure if you are still friends with her you could get her to work on stuff for you even without her being enslaved by you. I am only enslaving her for her power and giving her free reign on nearly everything else.

>>44502411
I really like this one. Does anyone have the finished version?

>>44505906

Why do you people care about my looks and self esteem problems?

>>44508513
They have no lives and fill the void with gossip about other people.

>>44508513
I care because I care about you, love.

>>44506785
So noone capped the rest? a shame

>>44504350

I like this type of CYOA where you are suppose to be you and something happens to you. Not some character you make but rather you yourself no matter how implausible.

>>44508513
I for my part because I like broken, tarnished, tattered and old things. I like to think such things can be made grand and that makes me dream. Even in the wretched hive of anonimity that is 4chan.

Also you make me think of Pollyonna. No matter what the guys throw a you you always come back.

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Hey /cyoa/.

Around a year ago, some guys toyed around with two concepts: CYOAs done for web browsers, and CYOAs generated by web browsers (in other words, allowing people who are bad at art to make CYOAs). Few web CYOAs were really produced.

So I made a Django applet that does the job fairly well. Obviously, I'm not the greatest of front-end designers (pic related is the front end), so any help with that would be appreciated, and I can provide the help needed to implement Django portions of it. I'll work on adding interactivity to it whenever I can (school is work-intensive, though).

For those who have some interest in the backend, it pretty much just lays out tables properly, which was a big pain the ass to make work properly because no one actually does that, it turns out. Any JS people interested in helping me out? I'm terminally bad at it.

If anyone is actually interested, and we think that this will help the community of our little forum game.

>>44508842
You can export CSS directly from photoshop for certain styles. You're free to steal any from ArchDemon Roommate CYOA >>44504247

>>44508547

Yeah.....

>>44508567

I'm sure.

>>44508163
>Kyleth is a good girl.
But Lyleth is best girl.

Tig bitties? Check.
Likes anal? Check.
Notta bitch? Check.

There is no good reason not to waifu her until she can't walk straight.

>>44508974

Your worthless whore. Has my sweet talking won you over yet?

>>44508974
Oh hey, for a subject change, love the new CYOA you did.

>>44509188
They did a new one?

>>44508513
Because we're a bunch of school girls pretending to be middle aged fat men.

>>44508513
Don't worry, I don't actually give a fuck about you. I'm just curious as to why everyone else seems to.

>>44508974
>I'm sure.

Don't deny it, sugar snap. You're my angel now and forever.

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>>44509259
Yup. Pretty sweet, too.

>>44509319
Oh, that's not new.

>>44509334
New'ish? First time I saw it was yesterday.

>>44509142
I am going to anal her several times a day for the rest of eternity. And she's gonna love it, being the semen demon she is.

Fuck everything, this is heaven to me.

>>44509365
Came out months ago.

>>44509406
Eh. I took a break from the thread for a while. Thanks for squaring me up, though.

>>44509384
You are a good person and I approve of your life choices.

Autism moment: why can't life be like muh CYOAs?

>>44509447
>why can't life be like muh CYOAs?

Intersex turboslut demons aren't real, anon.
It's a damned shame, but we've all got to just harden up and accept that.

>>44509508
The cosmos is cruel and cold.

>>44509508
>intersex turboslut demons
>harden up

We do that anyway so what's the difference?

>>44504350
I don't get what the point of the estate and career is if you enslave your mistress. Neither are actually necessary in that case since the mistress-slave can provide both a home and money, you could just quit your job and burn down your new house and there wouldn't be any real difference.

>>44509606
>Not wanting to be self made
Loser.

>>44509606
It strikes me as a bureaucratic thing: you're a level 6 demon, therefore you need a job. Even Big D has a job.
Otherwise they just kick you back out into limbo I guess?

>>44509665
>Even Big D has a job.
That would make sense if the jobs were all appropriate to your level of power or something.

>>44509606
>I don't get what the point of the estate and career is if you enslave your mistress.

It's called Hell for a reason, even if you're free you still need to work forever. If you don't want to work, you should probably start reforming yourself so you can get into Heaven like the last owner of the Fancy Mansion.

>>44509733
Gotta work your way up there, bud.

>>44509733
Bruh I read a manga set in hell once where pain was currency and masochists lived in delirious opulence, shit doesn't have to make sense.

>>44509776
Why? Just get a slave to do it, it's not like anyone could tell the difference.

>>44509764
Except some of the jobs are really easy, like the secretary one.

>>44501139
Can't I get a demon roommate by answering a Craigslist Ad instead of dying? If yes, then Aezureah.

If no, then Lynneth. Probably leave slavery after a year but stay working for them because what else am I going to do? Become a Hell based Writer?

>>44508841

>for my part because I like broken, tarnished, tattered and old things

Ok...

I haven't seen Pollyanna in awhile. I used to love that movie.

>>44509188

Thanks!

>>44509313

You sound like a stalker.

>>44508639

Good. I hate how much rape gets brought up around here.

>>44500611
>Sadly, their sons did not.
That's why you have them swear an oath of peace while you're still living in order to be named the heir. They can refuse, but then be cast out. They can renege, but then they'd be oathbreakers.

>>44505398
True, thanks. I'm torn between
>Megan Rothschild
>Private Space Suite
>Perfect Plastic Surgery
and
>Efrat
>Magen Rothschild
>Tacky Handkerchief

After considering it, I'm going to go with the second group. Is giving up 60% remaining life span and immunity to STDs and unwanted drug effects stupid? Sure, I guess. But I'm not really looking forward to a life taking long, expensive, and dangerous shuttle flights back and forth from my initially cold trophy wife who eternally holds my inheritance over my head as a way to keep me even more under the thumb of the family and a distant and presumably lonely space station where my only companions will be robot servants and supermodel prostis. That and I don't have much use for the actual plastic surgery part of the Plastic Sugery option; I like how I look, my age, my sex, and my ethnicity. Especially the scars.

Plus, Efrat smooths out that initial period when Megan is still warming up for me, and the hanky sounds like fun, guarantees me immunity from minor illnesses, aches, and pains, and servers as a great reusable get out of the hospital / morgue free card.

What do you think of my choices and reasoning?

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>>44500611

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>>44509869
>You sound like a stalker.

That stings a little.

>>44501139
Azure seems like the best choice for not getting exploited. Cuddling is a fairly wholesome and wonderful thing. I'll reluctantly enslave her after the one year, but I won't demand anything. Mainly I'd just like to get that sleep power. Enslaving a friend just seems kinda immoral, even if I don't give any orders. She seems relaxed enough not to mind, though. Probably.

I'm content to live in the apartment. Convenience is worth it. I'll go with balrog maids to "watch how flustered they can get." If the apartment is too cramped for them, I'll switch to the Fancy Mansion home instead.

As far as a career is concerned, I'll go into retail. I'll continue to run Azure's game shop. I'm already familiar with it and all.

>>44509869
>Good. I hate how much rape gets brought up around here.
Don't worry, it was just the bullshit kind of "rape" that some people characterize others as committing when you think they're being unsavoury.

>>44510037
>I'm afraid that she's gonna outshine all the other options.
As if we didn't know this already.

>>44510037
She talks like a flaming faggot.

>>44510050
Oh, I just noticed >>44504350
Definitely won't enslave her then.

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Leave it to me to overlook another goddamn spelling mistake.

>>44501139
As heads is tails, just call me, <filename>, 'cause I'm in need of some restraint!

I'm afraid that she's gonna outshine all the other options.

>>44510086
Like you.

>>44509964
version 3 someday

>>44510037
I suppose that file was about being Big D slave? I was interested on that one, I'm torn between Styx HQ and that.

>>44510037
>outshine all the other options.

I dunno bruh, she's not A Cute like Mhyrienne or bro tier like Felira.

>>44509845
>Except some of the jobs are really easy, like the secretary one.

That's partly why I pick that job.

The other part is that you can't seem to start your own business like the rank 5's have, and you don't even have the option to work for them if you don't remain their slave, and even then it's just the one that enslaved you.

>Tfw you will never run a rival bank, brothel, band, game store, research lab, winery, or even your own fight club.
>Tfw you will never combine all ideas into a large conglomerate which eventually grows large enough that you're a serious player in the economy.
>Tfw Big D will never nervously try to remain on your best side as you dip your fingers in enough pies to be a legitimate threat to her power, or at least a large enough threat to cause her a massive headache for millennia if the mood struck you.

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>>44508513
Because it makes their our e-dicks hard. It's benign enough, if you don't call the wahmbulance over it.

>>44510112
>Like you.
I didn't mean it as an insult. That's really the best description I can give for the way she talks.

>>44510117
She won't shove things in your ass like Mhyr, so there's that.

>>44510112
Big D is Lucifer? I thought Kyleth were Lucifer, pride and all that.

>>44510132
Being a flaming faggot isn't a bad thing, anon.

>>44510112
Well, I guess enslaving myself to her might work out well for me when since I chose Lynneth, which means (whether I want to or not) the one thing I got real good at over the past year is fucking. And since she hasn't fucked anyone in a long time, I think you know where this is going.

>>44510163
I thought Lucifer was -the- Devil? At least in Christianity.

>>44510194
>You will never teach the Devil new sex moves and become a loving slave-master couple.
/cyoag/, what have you fucking made me into.

>>44510158
Doesn't say anywhere she does shove anything into you. I'm sure lots of different toys are possible, and that's just the half of her kink that isn't about you doing things to her.

Also you should try it sometime, the orgasm pleasure is really a lot more intense :^)

>>44510208
By the book, he is not. By the apocrypha Christianity has picked up over the eons, yes.