Star Wars General-/swg/-A Good Day to Job Hard Edition

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>almost had Star Wars General: Once Upon A Time On Mandalore Edition

I was all done, just waiting for the youtube advert to end, so i could my music link

https://youtu.be/CpZjvbSC9_M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAX-agG_ESM

>>44386101
But if you were doing Once Upon a Time On Mandalore, shouldn't it be:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL-X53ze5O0

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Also continuing the character art.

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Do you think the Ghost needs a good wingman, or would arming it to the teeth be an acceptable way to fly it with nothing but it's Phantom for backup?

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>>44386129

Or this

https://youtu.be/2s0-wbXC3pQ

http://youtu.be/r0eEKDfLNPg

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>>44386144
I saw a fun Chopper and Zeb build that had two a-wing wingmen for maximum Phoenix squadron.

>>44386148
If Morricone's music was a species, it'd be an Arkanian Offshoot.

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>>44386144

I gotta hand it to whoever designed that thing - the B-17 design flavors really make that ship beautiful

I was kicking around an idea for a Miraluka Jedi. Specialist in Sensing, to the point where the vague danger sense all Jedi get is pretty much equal to the advanced Spider sense. He'll be able to pick up danger, what direction, what form, etc. Average in most other areas of Force Use. Mediocre in Energy Manipulation.

Would that be OP or make sense?

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>>44386192
I really didn't like it at first-it was only after someone pointed out the B-71 elements that I began to like the ship.

It also helps that whoever does FFG's sculpts can manage to make even the K-wing look cool.

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More art dump

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My brother's getting into X-Wing! God bless his soul.

>>44386192

It seems more like a panini or quesadilla freighter than a burger freighter.

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>>44386199
I like it. Jedi are kind of 'op' by definition. I would check with your GM first before committing-precognitive and borderline precognitive characters, even just a very defined danger sense, can be odd to run for and not all GMs can do it well.

>>44386199
I'm doing the same idea as well, but in reality all miraluka's have the ability of force sense. Literally the way I view them is toph from ATLA, except they can also sense projectiles and things in the air.

But, that being said I'm pretty sure they can only focus in one area at a time, so if something is sneaking behind them while they are focusing their vision elsewhere it would be harder to spot.

If it is OP I'd say not really, since that's what they all do. I mean Togrua's can do the same thing in a 25 ft radius due to their hallow "horns" or montrals. It's not like this is unique, it's just miraluka's can also see through walls all the time as well.

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>>44386251
He's doomed.

>>44386267
It's a brie freighter.

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Does anyone know of stats for the Kihraxz Fighter for the old d20 revised edition?

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>>44386291
Only got Saga.

You could make a Miraluka species pretty easily in FFG

Stats All 2
Wounds 8+Brawn
Strain 10+Will

Free point in Vigilance (can train above 2, max 3)
Automatic talent in Sense, with a force rating of 1
Can't buy into additional force powers without the appropriate force user spec

80 starter xp

>>44386251

Do not underestimate the lure of the Dark Side of the Wallet. Always be vigilant, and control your emotions. A responsible X-Wing player must be frugal, level-headed, and never greedy or impulsive. Temper your feelings with responsibility, and be ever wary for a lapse in judgement.

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>>44386291
I'm getting a strong Freespace vibe from that version of the Kihraxz.

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So if the HWK-290 is the Delorean and the Firespray is the Blues Brother Car is this baby the Aston Martin DB5?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Vader%27s_J-type_327_Nubian

Even Vader had his own personal one.

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>>44386345
Yeah i love how many variants of the Kihraxz there were, shame it never seemed to take off that much as an alternative to the movie ships in rpgs.

>>44386327
>Bought a Rebel Transport, F/O Tie Swarm, and 3 T-70s because I just really fuckin love X-Wings
>Got a YT-2400 for christmas
>Gozanti is in the mail and will arrive by probably monday
>I won't even be able to play another game until January when my roommates are back in town

I have like 7 builds I want to run and at least one epic game that needs to happen, but I'll have gone like a month since my last game before I finally get to pull out my stuff again.

>>44386271
>>44386277
Thanks! I wanted to get a second opinion before I pitched it to my GM. Should work out.

>>44386074

where can i finde books of edge of the empire?

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>>44386380
A lot of the 'scum' fighters are really cool and distinct looking. The unspellable R-named fighter also needs more love. All of them have a more industrial, robust feel to them.

>>44386434
Literally in the OP. AoR and FnD are there too.

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>>44386378
No, that would be the H-type.

>>44386378
there is no possible way that that isn't the old naboo ship

Anyone have any reviews or opinions about Imperial Assault? Saw the box for the first time in the LGS and am feeling the temptation, but if the game isn't any fun temptation is easy to resist.

>>44386251
So what are some good options to buy to expand on an the X-Wing starter set?

>>44386144
It's pretty difficult to make a 100 point list with just it and a docked phantom.

You could just go the most expensive stuff in each slot, but that's hardly an optimal build.

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>>44386108

Am I the only one that wants this song to play during the credits of the Han Solo movie?

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>>44386446
But only imperial capital ships can be this impressive

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>>44386460

Autocorrect acting up on you?

>>44386378

Feethan Ottraw Scalable Assemblies is the Aston Martin of the Star Wars universe.

>>44386408

I started with TFA Core a few weeks ago. Just ordered an TIE/fo and T-70, plus a couple extra cards and dice to help fill out the game. Can probably run 60 point lists easily now.

> Go see the movie
> Leave the thatre hyped as fuck
> Oh boy the local game store has an open sunday
> Buy the new X-Wing core set
> Now what

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>>44386494
Well, yes.

Anything else would be absurd.

>>44386508

Play with friends.

>>44386508
buy more sets

>>44386074

She should have been TR-8R.

>>44386494
It's only a hundred kilometers longer than the Death Star. Seeing as that didn't devolve into degeneracy, I don't think it's an issue.

>>44386502
>Feethan Ottraw Scalable Assemblies is the Aston Martin of the Star Wars universe.

How so?

>>44386471
I got both Aces packs, and one expansion of each different kind of ship that came in the packs.

>>44386510

How big is the Death Planet on that scale?

>>44386471
Easiest option for the Rebels is the aces pack. It's different 2 ships and a very good couple of load outs for them to give your squad variety.

I would also recommend aces for Imperials, but that one is kinda eh. Your best pilot by far for the interceptor is in the base pack for one, not in the aces pack. Not to mention it's 2 interceptors which is a little boring. At least to me, if you love em go right for it. Imperials just comes down to what you want out of them.

>>44386576

Planet-sized, I would think.

>Finn and Poe are stranded on a Space station
>First Order Star Destroyer is bearing down on them
>Finn finds the station's defense grid
>Completely empty, but the Targeters still work
>Poe: "I have an Idea"

and that's how the Resistance acquired a Star Destroyer.

I'm not the only one who was unimpressed by TFA? Not enough differant ships (b wings/a wings), not enough EU references, kylo ren is a faggot fuccboi and his plot arch is gay as fuck (gotta be bad so I can be strong enough to beat snooks), snooks lol. The alien really triggered me I thought the empire hated aliens? Also why are the first order such shitheads at palpatine had a reason

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>>44386576
Do you mean the torpedo sphere? Apparently 1.9 km according to the Wook.

>during the Imperial Civil War, Imperial warlords lost constantly lost torpedo spheres when commanders of super star destroyers raged quit and rammed into them, destroying both vessels

I guess losing Battle Meditation is a helluva drug.

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>>44386578
recommendations for building a scum list? I'm thinking trying to make it thematically tied to either the black sun or hutt cartels, but dont want it to be absolutely trash either. Any idea on some good squads?

>>44386614
that only happened once. I think the rest got blown up in various big fleet actions by either other warlords or the NR

>>44386617
Kihraz are good in general, the m-1s are weak, fire sprays and y wings are good

>>44386617
Get a StarViper and Most Wanted, that'll give you a solid base in terms of ship availability (plus allowing you to make double use of a few other expansions).

Does anyone have experience with Armada?

I got it instead of X-Wing because I like the scale more, but I see way less discussion of it.

What are some good buys, if I just want variety? I want the fighter packs, and the scum (or whatever) pack, but I'm really not sure where to go with the actual capital ships. I'll probably grab an ISD, because why the fuck not.

Ideally I'd like to have enough for a two person game, with enough options for both sides to keep it interesting.

>>44386614
>>44386631
wait, twice, sorry

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>>44386605
>I'm not the only one who was unimpressed by TFA?
There's quite a number of legit reasons, even if they didn't bother me much, to be less than impressed wi....
>Read the rest of that post

>>44386510
"Torpedo Sphere"?

Anyone know a decent non-YT series ship that the Jedi would use to get around the Galaxy during the Golden Age of the Republic?

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>>44386651
>twice

What kind of cybernetics could a Jedi expect to get? Anakin had that metal hand, but I have no idea how advanced it is.

>>44386605

I wasn't impressed, but at least it wasn't as bad as episode 1.

>>44386651
>twice

I don't know whether to laugh or facepalm.

And how many SSDs were out there anyways?

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>>44386605
>palpatine had a reason

If your referring to the whole "palp's and his empire + superweapons to stop the vong" nonsense, then you can stop right there

>>44386617
Start with Most Wanted. Z-95s are scum staples, Black Sun and Hutt friendly, and the y-wing mercenaries aren't too shabby and can work for either faction as well-you might want to buy a rebel y-wing just to start off as well. N'dru, the best named z-95 pilot, is a budget x-wing, and the y-wing pilots Drea and Kavil are both great-Kavil's extra dice outside of his firing arc is fantastic for turrets. Basic z-95s pair well with feedback array or deadman's switch, while basic y-wings are tanks that can use the btl title to fire both a turret weapon and basic weapon forward.

Starvipers are odd-I love the model, and they come with good cards. With a pretty decent move dial and 3 agility they can be good dogfighters. They don't have evade though, nor do they have enough green moves to shed stress from PTL effectively and are also expensive if you try to kit them out with everything. I've been playing around with Guri and lone wolf to decent effect.

The HWK is my favorite scum ship by far-all the pilots are support but do something fun. Torkhil reduces an enemy's pilot skill to 0 during combat, so let's your ships get the drop on him, Palob steals focus and evade tokens from the enemy, which causes all sorts of rage, and Dace is the most boring but practical letting ion do an extra damage.

I haven't had a chance to fly any of the other ships yet, sadly.

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>>44386687
there's the cloakshape and the cutlass for fighters

for something more freightery maybe the pursuer or some sort of republic shuttle

>>44386650
I love playing Armada, even more than X-Wing. Issue is it's just hard to play it. I only know so many people willing to actually play it and even then the setup for it is harder.

All that asside, what to get:
Assault Frigate and a Gladiator will balance both sides out for a 300 point game. ISD and MC80 will give you what you need for 400 point fun. Sounds like you have squadrons covered. From there everything else is open to just what you want out of the faction. I would play with those essentials first before deciding what you want duplicates of. Don't both following any of the advice below before that point in which you've played with those a bit.

As rebels I like running duplicates of Corvettes, MC30s, or Ass Frigs. A second MC80 can be crazy but know that you're putting all your eggs in two baskets like that. Another Neb is questionable, though there is some nice upgrades for it in the Neb stand alone pack.

As for Imperials, almost everything is fantastic in duplicates. ISD same as MC80, you're gonna eat all your points up getting a second of those. Raiders are of just as questionable use as the Nebs. Duplicates of Gladiators and Victories make for some fantastic builds. At the very least get one victory stand alone.

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How viable is it to make a Scum 100point list with only a pair of Firespray's?

I know next to nothing about the game, but I know Firesprays are pretty tough, can fire in two directions, and get a lot of upgrade options - a fair amount of hull and shields, and some good weapon options

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>>44386651
>twice

Yeah, pic related to whoever established that lore or the characters who made those decisions. Some of the extra special EU actions of the Empire/Imperial Remnant makes it hard to like characters like Pellaeon and Fel as much.

>>44386658
Kind of a mini-precursor to the Death Star that bristled with proton torpedo launchers instead of spikes. Used for breaching planetary shields and as explosive landing pads for SSDs.

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>>44386605
It felt like a teenage fanfic come to life. Rey was a Mary Sue, Han and Chewie's screentime felt like the writers fapping over how cool they are. FN actually developed very well and actually carried his scenes pretty well. As a whole though it had some great moments, but as a whole, I disliked it. Fun to watch though.

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>>44386775
Pel and Fel were just trying to make the best of a very very bad situation, dont blame them for other moff's fuck ups

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>>44386810
Yeah. Sometimes she made the right decision.

>>44386807
Initially, I wasn't impressed, but after a while it grew on me. I give it an 80% personally.

Certainly better than the prequels.

So I got the Force Awakens starter set for chrismas, as well as 1 extra FO Tie, and 1 Resistance X-wing.

Would 2x X-wings VS 3 FO ties be a balanced game?

>>44386845
Is that Pellaeon in the other Mask?

>>44386753
Buying two firesprays actually gives you a good amount of ship if you load up on weapons and ordinance, Not super competitive, but workable and with all the ordinance templates, probably really fun to fly.

>>44386846
>Certainly better than the prequels.
that's basically a non-statement

just about anything would be better than he prequels

>>44386855
The xwings would be at an advantage, but if you upgrade the FO stuff and keep the x wings cheap it should work out.

>>44386861
Probably better than RotJ as well.

>>44386875
let's not say things you can't take back

>>44386875
Nah, I still like ROTJ better.

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>>44386860
>Not super competitive

How so? Am I gonna get rekt by internet lists or the best and strongest?

I imagine swarms would be a huge problem - if they take double the amount of ships, losing one means nothing - losing one firespray and the game is pretty much over

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>>44386846
>>44386861

Duel of Fates Yo

>>44386855
Set a point limit at like 60 and it could work.

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>>44386882
t-they're beautiful

look at them dancing in the spacewind

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>>44386861
>just about anything would be better than he prequels

I dunno, the PT has a lot that most people overlook.

Heres a good read on it
http://www.ferdyonfilms.com/2015/star-wars-episode-one-the-phantom-menace-1999-episode-two-attack-of-the-clones-2002-episode-three-revenge-of-the-sith-2005/26568/

>>44386884
I'm not going to lie, I really like that flippy stuff in the fights.

>>44386856
Yeah. When Daala reunified the Empire, she organized a mofference of warlords before deciding they were all idiots except for Pellaeon.

Then she jobbed just as hard or harder than Phasma. So, you see, female villains jobbing is a time honored tradition in Star Wars.

>>44386911

At least with Daala they pseudo-retconned in an excuse for why she's so damn retarded compared to her reputation.

>>44386911
trading one of luke's waifus for the Knighthammer wasnt a great trade, but not bad

>>44386728
No palpatine had convinced people tht Jedis and aliens were jew/gypsy teir terrorists who would ruin everything if you have them power, coming off of a destructive war against an alien dominat group and a coup by the Jedis gave him his power.

>kylo ren is bigger fuccboi I started laughing at his puffy lips
>gramps i wannnnaaa be abadguy pleaaaasr show me how to be EVUL AND EDGY IM SO BADASS

Please bitchboi, also phasma was hilariously lame.

>>44386882
>losing one firespray and the game is pretty much over
Exactly. Personally, I'd stick a generic z95 in there just for a bit more coverage. They actually have solid dials, just never little green on them, so things like stress spam could cripple you. Bust mostly that something like 4 B wings with cannons or vader. soontir and the palpmobile are just so strong.

>>44386906
I feel like the only thing redeeming the prequels is that the EU like the videogames and Clone Wars managed to salvage what they could and fix what George broke. So very indirectly we got good stuff out of it.

>>44386906
Yeah, one thing I did like was how they setup this grand atmosphere and a giant Galaxy. That was probably my favorite part of the prequels. That, and the Clones.

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>>44386906
>prequel revisionism has begun

Six months from now there'll be a WSJ thinkpiece about how they're masterpieces of cinema

>>44386882
I don't think you'll get rekt with Scum firesprays. Especially depending on how you play-between bombs and there arcs, firesprays can lay down decent control.

It's more of a matter of volume, which you've already realized-the less ships you have, the less forgiving they are to fly. Swarms still only have inidividual ships with 3-4 health opposed to a Firesprays 10(?). Be sure to use evade and remember your rear arc.

>>44386906
lots of decent ideas, some solid design and kickass music

but the movies are fucking terrible
just like TFA is fucking terrible, though a little less so because no plot is better than a bad one

>>44386941
Not super competitive != bad you have very tanky ships that can watch their own 6.

>>44386940
Hayden, Portman and their terrible romance ensure that will never happen.

I do see the fights and special effects getting a lot of praise though.

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>>44386919
Is the ground commander, not admiral Daala an actual thing outside of /swg/?

>>44386908
I loved that, seeing the Jedi at their height of power, to contrast and justify the more akward fights in the original series as being self taught instead of the old ways.

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>>44386941
>>44386928

It seems easy to run some minor mod Firesprays, a single fighter - you recommend a Z95?

What are some good upgrades to throw on a Firespray when on a budget?

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>>44386954
>special effects
Seriously?
>the fights
SERIOUSLY?

>>44386989
AotC and RotS had some pretty amazing battles that got praised even while the plot and acting was derided. The real complaint was too much going on.

The Dooku fights are pretty great, as is the Grievous and Magnaguard fights. There's an issue with the Mail fight that's glaringly obvious when it's pointed out, but it still looks cool.

>>44386986
a vanilla z95 is like 12 points, they're your goto fillers for rebels and scum.

Does your group care about having cards for things? If not, play around with the different types of bombs and load up spam mines and charges all over the place.

Also with an engine upgrade, you can shoot across the table on turn one with a full move > boost b.c of your base size.

>>44386868
>>44386899
Thanks! Gonna play my first game tonight!

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>>44387033

What about a Y-Wing?

Also, would stealth and stygium stuff on Firesprays be worth it at all? It seems a neato idea, but I have no idea if its even viable.

Also, SLAM stuff on Firesprays? Same question

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>>44387058
Good Luck! A kinda silly list, but this one looks really fun, able to put bombs wherever

>>44387062
As far as I know, you can't gain an the stealth or slam actions without having them on your ship already. So those are basically only for the phantom and K wing sadly :C

A vanilla y wing with a twin laser turret is also a solid filler, tanky and annoying.

>>44386807
I saw it today and I hated it.

Rey was a fucking Mary Sue. Do any of the higher ups at Disney have a daughter that likes star wars? I suspect that this movie was heavily influenced by one of her fanfics.

WTF is going on with the Republic/Resistance/Empire/First Order? Is the empire in decline? If so, how the fuck did they manage to design and build a "bigger deathstar" when the regular Deathstars were extraordinarily taxing to construct for the Empire at the height of its power?

What's the deal with the republic? Do they just not care about the Empire anymore? I kept hearing about this "Massive Republic Fleet" but I don't recall seeing one capital ship. Are they taking the Murrica CIA approach of "we'll fight terrorism by arming other rival militant groups" school of warfare?

Kylo Ren couldn't be taken seriously because he acted like an immature angsty teenager that threw a temper tantrum every-time something went wrong.

Phasma...why was she even in the movie? She got 30 seconds of screentime before being forced to shut off the shields to the super weapon. Why does a stormtrooper captain have the necessary credentials to disable the defenses of your superweapon? Why can the shields be disabled from a random terminal in a shitty trash room in the middle of nowhere? Why did she even turn off the shields? What little buildup of her character made it seem like she was the sort who would rather die than jeopardize the Empire's plans.

Snokes. What kind of name is Snokes? That sounds like the name of some lowlife street punk, not your big bad.

The space ships. X-wings are the only wings. Ignore other letters in the alphabet. Regular TIE fighters are the only TIEs. But we're new and original because we recolored them and now they seat two...


Fuck JJ Abrams. All he's good at is copying existing films and throwing tons of money at the special effects budget.

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>>44387073

So, hows this then?

Pair of Firesprays with Mando's
Predator on one, and Marksmanship on the other

YWing with Hired Gun and an Autoblaster - 2 more points left, but I guess thats pretty much it

>>44387117
Do not use Autoblaster Turret without the Y-Wing title that restricts you to regular firing arc but lets you fire it with your primary, otherwise you're wasting attack dice at range 1.

Better suggestion do not use Autoblaster Turret at all, use an Ion Cannon Turret instead.

>>44387105
SNOKE WEED EVERY DAY

>>44387105
I think it was supposd to be a state sponsored terror group vs neonazis, legit was laughing when they were doing the totally not nazi speech.

I thought kylo was interesting in that he was totally the awkward fanboy that wants to be taken seriously. I liked his choreography and that medieval greatsword feel against two people just wailing at him with a stick. His mask was hideous, and looked like something a wannabe school shooter would wear and voice sounded like something I could do with a free voicemod.

Phasma should have been the one with the shocktonfa, and she instantly recognizing him would be believable. I was shocked she just let them take her. I was expecting a badass fight to the death from one so loyal to the first order.

I expected a twist to be that ren was abducting force sensitive kids to be troopers to control potential jedi.

>>44387117
Not a fan of autoblasters b/c they;re only range one, espec on something like a y wing that can;t really turn too well. an Ion cannon would be pretty nice to setup runs from your firesprays, Twin Laser Turrets are very good on y wings. Otherwise looks solid, a very tanky list with a ton of coverage.

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>>44387153
>>44387173


Gotcha

Also, what kinda dosh is this gonna run me with buying sets? This looks like a lot of money if I want to run two Firesprays

>>44387117
You'd honestly be better running the Firesprays with a Kihraxz at that stage, also if you think Predator is good enough for one of them, it's good enough for the other.

Truly though, if you're set on double Firespray
-Boba Fett w/ Veteran's Instincts, Gunner, Engine Upgrade
-Kath Scarlett w/ Veteran's Instincts, Gunner, Engine Upgrade
That gives you a good amount of firepower and maneuverability at Pilot Skill 9 and 10. Use that to dodge past people, make sneaky moves around rocks and shoot them with your buttgun

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>>44387189
Assuming you;'e US, I get most of my stuff off amazon, especially the bigger ones, Firesprays are 22 atm, then a y wing is 11, so around 56, then if your group cares about having cards, you have to get those expansions. At least at my flgs, if you have the app or a printout of what everything does, they're cool with whatever. I;d recommend getting a most wanted pack if you want to play scum, 2 z95s and a y wing, though at retail is a decent deal, very good if you can find it for ~25.

http://xwing-builder.co.uk/build#
This site is your friend.

Also with Imp. Vets announced, This is something I want to try running.

I had a really surprisingly successful couple games with this list. I just pulled it together because I wanted to use my new Tie Fighter pilots and Agent Kallus. The fighters do their job of not being completely ignoble thanks to their pilots and enough of them to gunk up the works. The phantom meanwhile hits freakin hard.

“Echo” (41)
TIE Phantom (30), Agent Callus (2), Sensor Jammer (4), Veteran Instincts (1), Advanced Cloaking Device (4)
“Backstabber” (16)
“Night Beast” (15)
“Chaser” (14)
“Wampa” (14)

>>44387245
Related, Rebel aces is 15 on amazon atm, though will be a delayed until back in stock.

>>44387236
Also, to add to that, if you're playing with guys that insist you have the physical cards with you, this only requires the 2 Firesprays and Most Wanted plus a Millenium Falcon. If you swap the Engine Upgrade for bombs then you don't even need the Falcon so there's no unnecessary purchases.

>>44387254
Fuck.

I already have it once, but at those prices can I not afford to have it again?

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>>44387105
What kills me the most is that it's just another entry in the J.J. Sci-Fi Reboot genre - in which J.J. overclocks the plot at the expense of any tone or worldbuilding, refuses to try doing anything original, and cranks away at the jack-in-the-box full of surprise drama.

Seriously, who the fuck looked at the sudden cut to the previously unmentioned Starkiller Base executing genocide on a previously unmentioned solar system and said "yeah, that's a really compelling scene we've got here"? Or thought that Kylo impaling Han wasn't blatantly obvious and needed to be awkwardly drawn out?

Every time I hear another person repeat "at least it wasn't the prequels", all I can think is "at least the Disney writing committee kept the first half from being Into Darkness level garbage." At this point I'm left scrounging for fresh memes and hoping they actually try something new with VIII.

>>44386704
They probably err on the side of functional than fancy or with extra options. If you're missing a leg you'll get a new metal one that is mostly as good as you're old one.

>>44387266
B wings are really good, and A wings are fun filler. I kinda want a second t70, those things are so strong.

>>44387267
At least the prequels had new stuff and actually pretty solid world building. I love how the star trek series is still called star trek, when there is very little actually happening in space, and little to no trekking.

>>44387254
I've ordered out of stock X-Wing stuff for cheap twice now. Both got canceled and refunded before the shipment got a chance to come in.

>>44387291
Oh, I've never done it, just started like 2 months ago, my collection is basically entirely imperial and wanted to expand it a bit.

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>>44387267
Agreed about the plot. And a lot things felt out of place. Especially the bulk freighter/monster scene. Between the cgi tentacle koosh ball, the Dark Matter/Firefly set, and bad hair on British leader, it felt like a syfy produced series (not always necessarily bad) rather than any Star Wars film.

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>>44387236

x2 Firesprays with...
>Veteran Instincts
>Gunner
>Homing Missile
>Engine Upgrade

Thats actually 100 points

And with everything there...
>>44387245
...I only need two Firesprays, a Millenium Falcon, and I've got all the cards I need.

Thats a fair amount of dosh

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>>44387267

>all this JJ hate

You realize he wasn't the only to write it, and he's not directing the next two? Lawrence Kasdan was one of the writers - go look up what hes done.

>>44387022
It didn't really feel that way to me. I always found the scarcity of the Lightsaber Usage in the OT a big appeal, they're only drawn when they're absolutely needed. Luke uses his Blaster otherwise or Vader uses the Force. Lightsaber is a last resource, and when they duel it felt like it was the only possibility. They square up and you know why they're fighting, cuts to other characters let you know what's at stake. In the Prequel trilogy, I can't remember any of these lightsaber fights actually being important to other characters.
Qui-Gonn and Obi-Wan vs Maul had no influence on Anakin and the Gunganns or Padmé, the real focus should've been on Anakin and Padmé as they cut the head off the droid army.

Anakin and Obi-Wan vs Dooku was...they followed him to his base and tried to kill him? Interspliced with Padmé rolling down a sand-dune, no real drama or anything and Yodas character gets absolutely butchered.

Episode 3, Grevious fight is utterly ludicrous, why does Obi-Wan jump into the middle of a droid army and make a quip? I don't even recall him calling in that he's found Grevious to the council or anyone higher up in the war, this is a pretty big deal after all. And the Obi-Wan vs Anakin fight was ludicrous, could've ended at any time, all that had to happen was that Anakin loses and his fall from grace is complete.

>>44387302
I mean there's hardly any risk, they'll refund it if it does happen. Just I did this for Tie Fighters and Scum Interceptors. Found a good deal on amazon for them that said they would deliver when in stock. About 2 weeks later for each, got a refund notification. Nice of them to ship the rest of what I ordered though while still having free shipping.

>>44387309
That was one of the biggest turnoffs for me and why I only started recently. run without the engine upgrades and load up on bombs to keep your purchases minimal. As a side note, you can run them as Imperial for tie filler

.>>44387318
He's the big name on it, so its going to be associated with him.

>>44387289
I even went back and watched TPM last night on a younger sibling's request. The script and acting (directing?) are horribly wooden and Anakin's extreme youth makes things awkward as fuck, but there's some honest-to-god creativity in there.

The prequels as a whole are fundamentally flawed, but at least they have their own style. TFA just felt like what it was - the lovechild of J.J.'s personal style and a Marvel movie with a thick coat of OT references.

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>>44387352
>the lovechild of J.J.'s personal style and a Marvel movie with a thick coat of OT references

Gotta get paid

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>>44387352

Do you dislike the marvel movies?

>>44387318
I know he's not the sole origin of TFA's flaws, but large portions of the film come across as being entirely in his usual flashy style. And since this is one in a growing spree of his "quirky" and "dramatic" action sci-fi movies it makes him an easy target for venting frustrations.

>>44387352
>there's some honest-to-god creativity in there

Doesn't make it a good movie.

I knew TFA's success would make prequel apologists crawl out of their subterranean caverns.

>>44386287
Tinyface Wookie.

>>44386327
And don't be afraid to pirate and proxy.

>>44387384
Did anyone say it did, faggot?

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>>44387392

Also a project I'm working on, printed some Taiidan ships ;3

I hate the space grey most ships are, time to add some motherfucking color to the table

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>>44387399
>printed some Taiidan ships ;3

Those are positively adorable anon. There gonna look great when you paint them up.

I still prefer the look of the Kushan ships more

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>>44387403

>>44387375
>>44387352
I seriously don't get this quippy thing. There were not many quips. That's not even a JJ staple or anything. There's a huge gap between anything this movie does and the 80% quip rate this like Avengers run on.

Worse off, I just imagine the kinds of people in the theater complaining about this. Like some semblance of fun dialog happens and this man who showed up wanting to hate the movie is just sitting there in silent anger at the thought of fun.

>>44386614
>>44386651
Seriously? TWICE? I know one was in a conflict over who would be the power behind the Corellian Diktat, but what was the other one?

Some time during the Dark Empire Crisis when Clone Palpatine had just captured Coruscant and used the force to make all his officers turn on each other for shits and giggles?

>>44386911
She already had a history of jobbing from her origin in the Jedi Academy Trilogy.

>>44386919
>>44386960
Oh no, the EU went with "Brain Damage from either really bad, really good, or really kinky sex with Tarkin" to explain her being retarded. (Or maybe it was from an O2 leak or something)

"Death Star" was a really shitty fixfic in a lot of ways.

>>44387421
Fuck you, I liked Death Star. For all its flaws (yes, including the Lucrehulk full of X-wings), it was fun.

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>>44387405
Shapways had a black friday promo and I wanted to see how their Frosted Ultra Detail looked. so far they look great, a bit of sanding needed on the bottom, bu totherwise very smooth. I wouldn;t drop them or be as rough as with the fantasy flight plastic, you can see several scout wings broke in shipping. It was hard to pick, but I'll never forget the Taiidan paint colors.

I would have totally gotten some of these though, pic related. From a tenth anniversary wallpaper they did a few years ago.

>>44387267
>Awkward

It was not 'awkward' in the slightest.

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>>44387408
>man who showed up wanting to hate the movie is just sitting there in silent anger at the thought of fun.

This. On some level I think some of the folks who have the deepest hate for the Movie, only really do because they went in with that attitude, and find themselves completely justified on the barest of evidence. They didn't for one moment give the movie an honest chance.

Still a small minority

>>44387445
sameanon, Would be perfect for a t70 stand in next to the older kushan ones.

>>44387369
I'm... neutral towards them? I can honestly say I've only ever gone to see them because I was invited by friends. They're entertaining, but it's that special kind of mindless entertainment that really gets one's eyes rolling.

Their strength is dealing in the nature of the preexisting comic book metaverse, in which alternate universes are constantly being written and rewritten anyway, and zany quips while punching bad dudes in the face are just part of a regular day. They don't have to do much work beyond telling you what version of the already-written character and setting they're using this time around.

Star Wars isn't all that deep or thought-inspiring, but it generally had effort put into building and adding onto the story's universe in different ways. TFA goes backwards on that by copying the most recognizable elements of ANH and shoving any possible details about this future galaxy into places like a sentence or two of Hux's Nazi rally speech.

>>44387384
Motherfucker what do the words "fundamentally flawed" mean to you? Like I tell everyone who brings that argument up, not having the prequel trilogy's problems doesn't automatically make TFA a flawless movie.

But if you want to boil this down to banal literalism, I'll agree that "painfully mediocre" is strictly better than "bad".

>>44387309
>...I only need two Firesprays, a Millenium Falcon, and I've got all the cards I need.
>Thats a fair amount of dosh
I mean sure, but if you want to run 2 Firesprays you're getting 2 Firesprays. That's only one extra ship and I did suggest other options. It's just that the EU is legit as hell.
Mind you, I'm coming from other wargames and thinking that 3 sets for $44 AUD is pretty cheap for a good list.

Quick /swg/, give me the mostly out there collection of droids you can think of.

Got that?

Now you have to run a game for people playing them.

>>44387475
>I'm coming from other wargames and thinking that 3 sets for $44 AUD is pretty cheap for a good list.

This. one of x-wings strengths is is *relative* price compared to other tabletop games. Just get one and borrow another depending on how f your flgs community is.

Did anyone else have way more fun with KoToR1 than KoToR2? I can go into specifics but I had a much more enjoyable time with KoToR1, it felt way more like the kind of pulp magazine adventure that Star Wars is at its best at.

>>44387408
Yo, I never even mentioned quips

Sure it happened, but Poe and Finn chatting made for some of the more enjoyable scenes. They put a lot of work into making the new characters minus everything about Rey besides her ~mysterious origins~ interesting, but the flow of the story/tone suffered in exchange.

>>44387471
>>44387398

No, you're not allowed to compliment the prequels in any way whatsoever.

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>>44387471
>but it's that special kind of mindless entertainment that really gets one's eyes rolling.

I dont want to be rude Anon, but you sound really presumptuous. I might be wrong, because you might be a totally cool person irl - but really man, it sounds like you have a problem enjoying things.

But I'm actually really curious as to your opinions. What do you consider your favorite movie? (or series)

I kind of wish era play was a thing.

As someone who wants to run mostly OT film stuff its annoying seeing people jump on newer things just because they are more powerful.

TFA was fun but I have basically zero interest in those ships in X-wing.

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I don't like how later material flattened the L8-L9's "Jaw" things, I liked them at the 30 degree angle they look to be at here.
I do love their plasma blasts, the flamer parts are not super great but the raw plasma balls are awesome.

>>44387428
I said in a lot of ways.

>>44387506
KotOR 2 is a lot of meta commentary on trying to map force morality to an RPG "Good points and bad points" scoring system.


It's also a broken game without mods.

>>44387524

I know that feel bro. I love the OT Era because its classic, and it works great for any kinda game you want to do.

But everytime I offer to run a Star Wars game, the first thing people ask me is to run it in the KotOR\TOR era.

I hate saying no, but really, its annoying as hell

>decide to get into x-wing
>get OT core
>get b-wing
>get y-wing
>get tie interceptor
>realize I have absolutely nobody to play this with
Well, at least they will look good on my shelf.

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>>44387506
Yes. The reveal in kotor is one of the few times the game made me immediately swap loyalties. I loved that it was more the chaotic good vs lawful evil that got played instead of just good/bad

>>44387524
they were going to do that, having the resistance and first order be separate factions, but then realized that they had maybe 4 ships that they could use split between 2 factions and wanted to get in on the brand.

Nobody;s stopping you from taking a t65 and putting it on a t70 base. Poe;s focus thing even makes more sense for Luke. As long as you;re clear to your oppoenent, everything should be fine, hell, I;m running homeworld stuff.

>>44387552
Try vassal or tabletop simulator, if you;re near Seattle, we have a ton of players.

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>>44387506
>>44387527

I see KotOR1 as ANH - and KotOR2 as ESB - the atmosphere of 2 is a lot more spooky, and grey.

I kinda dig that actually - its one of the things I loved about ESB.

That isn't to say I didn't love KotOR 1 as well

That isn't to say that I don't monstrously hate both games for making TotJ completely forgotten and buried

Can a non-jedi safely disassemble a lightsaber? How can i convince the dickass jedis in my group to let me do it?

I need to prepare if they decide i outlived my usefulness

With detonite in their handles

>>44387547
Just gonna say, KOTOR era works surprisingly well in FFG Star Wars from what I've experienced of a campaign like that. The non-Force users have, in some cases, been better off than the Jedi of the group.

Hired Mandos attacked us on the streets of Coruscant one session. The Cathar Jedi got blasted off a roof when she attacked one trying to force a Mexican standoff with a thermal detonator, while the Hutt heavy used his sled to not only tank a missile tube hit, but return fire and vaporise the shooter. It's awesome.

Then later we fought a cyborg Hutt, and things would've gone exceptionally badly for our Jedi if the Chiss slicer hadn't conned him into thinking she was one of his hirelings before introducing a droid disabler pistol to his cybernetics.

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Obi-Wan had some of the best Bounty Hunter outfits in both the EU and the new canon with that outfit he wore working alongside Cad Bane.

>>44387582
TotJ was just KJA wanking to stars exploding.

Nah it had some good art and stuff that I really loved.

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>>44387621
His EU GF had some sick threads too.

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>>44387552
>he doesn't have a Raider sitting on his shelf that he bought just for the TIE Advanced titles

>>44387522
Off the top of my head? For sheer entertainment value and being recent enough to recall off the top of my head, Pacific Rim. It didn't aspire to be anything other than giant robots punching giant monsters, and boy did it do a good job with that.

Anyway, how dare you suggest I'm presumptuous when clearly it's everyone else whose opinions are wrong, my preferences are objective ahuargeblghgr I've probably been exaggerating my dislike for the sake of discussion. TFA has its good parts, they just felt offset by what felt to me like crowded and overly referential writing particularly during the second half of the moive.

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Wow, Aurra Sing actually comes off as sexy in TCW

Was not expecting that

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>>44387639

>Pacific Rim

Yeah, its too bad we'll never get a sequel - whatever they were working on went into development hell.

Do you currently have a favorite director? How would you feel about any of the Marvel Movie directors doing a Star Wars? For instance...Joss Whedon or James Gunn?

>>44387613
>Can a non-jedi safely disassemble a lightsaber?
It varies with the lightsaber and Jedi in question. A paranoid Jedi with spare time and parts might deliberately build an over-complicated monster of a saber that would be impossible for anyone but him to disassemble. Something old, personalized, and heavily modded would also probably be tricky to pull apart.

A mass-produced training saber would be pretty simple. Something based on familiar mundane parts, like a speeder bike handle or an arc welder, would also be easy to disassemble.

>>44387660
>Joss Whedon
Not him, but that'd make me forget ever going to another Disneywars movie. Whedon's a talentless hack and I've never forgiven him for Alien Resurrection.

>>44387660
I just realized that Gypsy Danger could be a really good name for a smuggling ship.

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>>44387672
>Whedon's a talentless hack

So I guess you didn't like Firefly?

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>>44387675

>Gypsy Danger
>Coyote Tango
>Crimson Typhoon
>Striker Eureka


I think Cherno is the only one that doesn't fit.

>>44387684
It was decent enough. I think the main reason people super adore it is how Pavlovian the ending and movie were. Basically a huge downer that made people wish the original had continued instead.

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>>44387660
>favorite director
I would pay any amount of money to see Chris Roberts do an X-Wing movie. Or to see Hideo Kojima do a Darth Vader story.

This might be coincidence but the tentacle monsters in the Umbara arc in TCW look very, VERY, much like the ones Han was hauling in TFA.

Did they ever give us the name of those Umbaran monsters? Did Han go full badass and snatch a job monsterhunting on nighttime Space Vietnam?

>>44387709
Why Vader of all people?


>>44387722
The Visual Dictionary lists them as "Suspected Relatives" They don't know for sure, they're definitely not the same species, but they're definitely close./

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>>44387709
>Chris Roberts

Chris is pretty skub right now, depending on what your opinion of Star Citizen is.

Quickest way to a 400+ reply topic in /v/ is to mention him. Its amazing how much people think the guy is scamming everyone.

As for director, personally myself, I would love to see Gore Verbinski try his hand at Star Wars.

As much as I like Christopher Nolan, I want him to stay as far from Star Wars as he can get.

>>44387729
Luke? Luuke? LUUUUUUUUUUKE?

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>>44387729
>Why
Because V has come to. In the Outer Rim, men become demons.

>>44387731
>Roberts
Someone just needs to bring him, Mark Hamill, and John Rhys-Davies away from the Star Citizen pipe dream.

>>44386468
It's fun and pretty great if you've got the friends to play the campaign with. Fun and pretty even balance for both Imperial and Rebels. Skirmish mode is nice, but it's more of just a bonus feature than the main reason you'd grab the game.

So, does anyone care for fanedits?

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I loved this little fleet Tarkin's grandpa put together.


Or was it a father or uncle?

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>>44387773

Was that from the Stark Hyperspace War?

>>44387709
Is Star Citizen still a thing? Is it an actual game now?

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>>44387801

Just had an alpha release of the persistent universe

Still just one planet and a dozen space stations - but it has quests, spawning pirates, and supports multiple players.

When its not buggy as fuck, and crashing

>>44387801
"game" not yet, soom(tm)

Just uploaded a couple of book not in the FFG trove. Enjoy: >>44387806

>>44387619
They have Cathar for FFG?

>>44386510
>torpedo sphere

wut

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>>44387821

>Strongholds of Resistance

Anon! I could kiss you!

>>44387821
The reason the books you're asking for aren't in the complete torrent is because the person who manages the torrent is also the one who scans them.

>>44387828
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Torpedo_Sphere

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Hey /swg/, I had a question about the lore considering the DC-15A Blaster Rifle used by the Clone Troopers during the Clone Wars. Is that weapon still around during the times after the Battle of Yavin? I kind of want my Bounty Hunter in EotE to have one, I love the design.

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>>44387853

No reason why it shouldn't be - after all, Blastech made millions of them.

The only reason you don't see them a lot is because their inefficient in relation to more modern "lighter" blaster rifles.

it's like going Operating with an M1 garand, while all your buddies have tacticool M4's.

but its still a great design. If your using FFG, the Heavy Blaster Rifle fits perfect for a DC-15A

>>44386605
>triggered

Out.

>>44386807
>>44387105
>rey was a mary sue

Man, you must really hate Luke or Han...You do hate them, right? Because the new cast is literally the old one rebooted and shuffled around a bit. If you don't hate Luke and Han, I'm sorry to say you don't come across as credible at all with your "whine whine Mary Sue" line.

>what is the deal with [politics]?

Leia is leading space-ISIS against the remnants of the Empire with quiet backing from the Republic, who are officially at peace because 30+ years of war is more than most democracies can sustain. This is painfully obvious if you have even a rudimentary capacity for thought. The ex-empire knows this and just decides to kill their backers and financiers.

>Kylo Ren is an angsty teenager

No shit. He's a wannabe. He's a n00b. He's a puppet. That's his starting point. He'll develope from there. Character growth is such a horrible thing. How dare a story even attempt it!

>muh spehss ships

Refreshing to see few ships rather than a flood of filler crap once again. Sometimes less is more.

>What kind of a name is Snokes?

When the wisest sage in the galaxy can be butchered to sound like "Yo, dawg!" or "yogurt", complaining about names comes off as a bit anal retentive, don'tcha think?
0/10, trying too hard.

>>44387853
My guess? The E-11 and DLT-19 would have replaced them on the Imperial front-line, but there's probably a shitload in secondary use - some would've been passed down to planetary militia through legit channels, and 'lost' ones would be found in the hands of pirates/Rebels/mercs/other sundry lowlifes.

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YOU HAVE TEN SECONDS TO BE AS AUTISTIC A STAR WARS FAN AS YOU CAN BE

GO

>>44387871
>>44387882
I'll discuss it with my GM, thanks guys.

>>44387885
Han shot first

>>44387902
No Greedo shot first you dribbling mongoloid.

>>44387881
Behold, fans that are truly killing Star Wars as we know it.
I bet you love the new Star Trek trailer as well.

The more people keep supporting TFA the more my urge to leave this place becomes.

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>>44387885

Does saying Boba survived the Sarlacc count?

Does saying Boba died in the Sarlacc count?

>>44387885
MIDICHLORIANS

Fun fact: The Making of Star Wars has a quote in it from '75 (?), where Lucas and somebody else are brainstorming, and Lucas says that Force-users' brains are different from everybody else's.

>>44387907
Bye.

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>>44387907

this guy wins the >>44387885 autismo challenge

Your reward is to act on your urge and leave this place fool

>>44387906
They shot at almost the same time, actually. Han dodged.

>>44387911
Egh. Lucas is always changing his mind on everything. At one point he said force is something anyone can access/control, it's just that most people won't take the time/effort to build the connection. At one point he even said Yoda wasn't a warrior or a Jedi, just a teacher of the force.

>>44387931
Special Edition, Greedo shot first, Han dodged and fired back. Theatrical version, only Han ever fired.

>>44387924
I do want a Gungan Jedi.

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>>44387931

Greedo is just a terrible shot

Hey /swg/, if I-III are PT, and IV-VI are OT, are VII-IX DT or ST?

>>44387938
>Special Edition, Greedo shot first, Han dodged and fired back.
2004 edition sped up the timing so they shoot much closer to the same time.

>>44387943

Sequel Trilogy, or New Trilogy

>>44387885
>muh balance

Why does it rub so many people the wrong way that the light side is balance and the dark side is just not right.

>>44387907
TFA has more to do with Star Wars as I know it than your precious prequels and the wank that made up most of the EU ever did.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

>>44387943
DT?

Sequel Trilogy is what's been commonly used, but when using abbreviations usually people just use TFA since there's only one film so far; ST will likely be used more often once Episode VIII drops though.

>>44387947
And yet if they aren't firing at the same exact time, one still has to fire first.

>>44387954
Because it's a retcon.

Would all these people who just don't get why the Kylo character works be happier if they just tried to make him more badass than Vader and inevitably failed to make it work?

>>44387943
DT?

>>44387827
In the Unofficial Species Menagerie, yes.

>>44387931
I don't know what butchered version you saw. Greedo doesn't even get a shot off. Han just ice him straight up. No nonsense, no rules of engagement, just "BAM you're dead m8, sorry about the mess".

Because if you don't fire first in the smuggler business you're dead meat.

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>>44387954

Because people want their super special original concept donut steel characters to not be constrained by rules

>>44387963
>>44387967
Disney Trilogy.

>>44387963
Yes, but it's less obvious if there's less of a gap.

If I were more autismal, I could argue that it shows that Han and Greedo are very similar, as both were ready to fire, but Han held back until he saw that Greedo was going to escalate to actually shooting, which would show us that Han is the sort of guy who doesn't start fights for no reason, and likes to see which way the wind is blowing before cashing in.

>>44387966
Probably. I've only seen Kylo hate from folks grasping at straws and throwing around buzzwords in a desperate attempt to be contrarian or seem "smarter" or more "nerdy" or what the fuck all their goal is.
I've yet to see a solid critique of the movie that genuinely considers it bad.

>>44387975
>Because if you don't fire first in the smuggler business you're dead meat.

>being a successful smuggler
>shooting every two-bit thug who gives you lip
I don't think those two are mutually inclusive.

Hi i m new in SWSE.
We start from lv 1, KOTOR setting, i want to play a Skywalker( Anakin, Luke, Rey) like character, good pilot, good mechanic, strong in force( but the character doesn t know at the start of the game). I think Scout fits well for the first level, for 1 feat i ll take force sensitivity. What else?
Can youadvice some goods feats and talents?

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>>44387982

I posted the wrong sidebar, although that one is pretty good.

This is the one I meant to post

>>44388002
>saga edition
>not going full Jedi from day one
shit nigga, what are you doing

>>44388000
The smuggler business is pretty cutthroat and since you're operating on the far side of the law there's nothing stopping Joe Schmoe over there from icing you because he didn't like your hat and grab your cargo while he's at it, or Greebles the Bounty Hunter from collecting on your sorry ass for when you had to cut and run from Johnny Law to not get sent to an extended vacation on Prime Shithole #1.

>>44388014
No skills
I want not to be THE jedi. I want not going full Jedi from day one

>>44388002
Play Jedi or don't play at all.

As the old song goes: "Anything you can do, Jedi can do better"

>>44387709
You want Wing Commander: The Movie 2? Why would you want this terrible thing?

>>44387966
I think the issue is, is that Kylo has a character arc that's being set up where he's supposed to grow more powerful and maybe even become more disciplined. But the film doesn't make him really work on a stand-alone film sort of way so he's just kind of portrayed as weak and annoying right now. It's kind of the same with Rey right now. She's pretty powerful and there's hints she's been mind-wiped/locked, but as-is without an explanation, she's just this ridiculous force-using beast that's out-doing Luke at that age in terms of mastery of the force.

>>44387989
Your Han sounds like a pussy.

>>44388000
Han would be a pretty big moron not to fire as soon as he can after somebody responds to "Over my dead body," with "That's the idea. I've been looking forward to this for a long time." There's no reason to wait for an actual blaster bolt to pass by your face.

>>44388042
NOOOOOOOOOO
I ask for usefull feats or talents. Not if jedi or scout are goods..

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>>44388034
>>44388000

Your forgetting that Greedo wasn't looking to take Han alive - he was going to kill him.

Shooting him first after the statement of intent, is perfectly justifiable.

>>44388047
>Your Han sounds like a pussy.

>a cunning man who looks before he leaps
>a pussy
I suppose, if all you understand is violence.

>>44388042
This.
Saga Edition Jedi are basically 3.5 casters, and they're just as broken.

>>44388060
Oh camon.
Are you all tards?
I dont ask to play a fuxking op character or a jedi, but to play a fucking character concept and i ask for a list of good feats or talents since there are 100+.

>>44388059
>Get told you're going to get shot
>Decide not to fire to defend yourself
>Get shot at
>Almost break your neck dodging a blaster bolt because you can't into interaction with other people and hesitated
>THEN fire

>cunning man
>not a pussy

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>>44388059

>looking before leaping
>never tell me the odds
>never ask that question until after ive done it

Way to completely miss the whole character of who Han Solo is

>>44388075
Maybe he thought Greedo was bluffing.

If an 'average' PC gets hit with a blaster in EoE how much trouble are they generally in?

>>44388082

Not the guy you're talking to but Han was also a complete pussy at times and a coward.

>>44387689
That's because punching ships with you ship is not that viable in the Star Wars universe because if there was some Outlaw Star type of ship with arms i would name her Cherno Alpha and put a bucket somewhere

>>44388082
>one is at the start of IV, before Luke and friends get their hands on him
>one is from V, after 3 years of pissing about with crazy Rebels and Jedi-wannabes
>one is from VII, after 30 years of same

>>44388073
I might not the best guy to give out Saga build advice (only GM'd it once) but i say if you're dead set on starting as a scout nab Force Sensitive plus Skill Training/Skill Focus (Use the Force) early on.since that will be your go to skill for everything forever.

>>44388073
Okay faggot, enjoy your "character concept" getting precisely fuck-all to do because someone who picked a Jedi class gets to do everything you can do and do it better

If you insist on playing a gimped character like this you'd better take that fucking feat tax and get Force Training when you can

>>44388100
Quite a bit. The first shot won't take them down outright unless their opponent's a truly good marksman, but without body armour a couple of shots is usually sufficient to ruin the average person's day.
Of course, with more XP or a very tough species that drastically changes. The character I'm currently playing can cheerfully soak up shots from anything up to a heavy blaster rifle with no wounds whatsoever, and can take repeated hits from anything bigger before going down.

>>44388100
Depends on who's firing and what since that drastically changes the base damage and the damage added by Success if the attacker is rolling well. But I guess generally speaking, it'll probably do around 1/4-1/3 of the damage a player can take before they're knocked out.

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>>44388100

Depends

Most folks have around a 10 in Wounds, with a 2 in Brawn, and thats PC's
Normal folk, like your common variety Stormtrooper, have 5 wounds (wounds being based off importance - Nemesis class Enemies can have up to 20 wounds)

That means 2 of the damage gets shaved off the top, not counting whether their wearing armor.

A blaster pistol does about 6 damage.

A blaster rifle does 9 damage.

Extra successes add extra damage

Are FFG going to do a TFA-era RPG when the rest of the trilogy comes out?

>>44388128
Dm bans skill focus: use the force

>>44388142

We have no idea. I hazard they might because it'll get disney more monies, but who knows?

>>44388100
Depends on who wields the blaster. A mook shooting the player will probably deal somethong like four or five damage with a pistol and seven or eight with a rifle. A nemesis or rival could deal much much more with the same weapon depending on his talents.

>>44388147
Then get Force Training instead. Any and all feats that enhance your Use the Force skill are pretty good if i recall, since you'll end up substituting all your skills with Use the Force anyway

>>44388142
New core, probably not. They might end up doing some sort of era supplement down the line. Expect at the minimum that they'll include stuff that should be around the close to the OT-era to be tossed into some books much in the way that some PT stuff like droids and Clones have been tossed in.

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>>44388142

No, like everything FFG does, theyll run out of steam when they move on to a completely new product.

Like Legend of the 5 Rings.

>>44388100
Generally in a lot of pain
Blasters are bad things, their purpose is to kill people and they will do so given a good enough shot, course being PC's they're unconscious and suffer a crit when they run out of wounds.
Its actually fairly hard to outright kill PC's, but generally fairly easy to knock them on their arse.

Even very high xp characters should be wary when blasters are pointed in their direction

I went to look at shipfag's Hangar of Wonders listed in the holocron, but it's empty. What happened to all the ships?

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No one in my group or at any of my card/game shops want to play Star Wars stuff. All they want is Magic or DnD.

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>>44388342

>current group has a specific day for constant D&D5.0
>have done two back to back campaigns for months now
>our other game day switched to ANOTHER 5.0 campaign
>finally convinced my group to end one of the 5.0 campaigns to do Star Wars
>if I hadn't, other GM was gearing up for another 6-month long 5.0 campaign

I would have killed them. or myself. or killed myself and then killed them.

>>44388367
>or killed myself and then killed them.
How?

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>>44388378

Willpower

>>44388342
Get better friends.

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>>44388393
Goood.... goood!

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Does anyone else wanna see Kylo Ren die from having something fall on him? I want the Executor 2 to fall on him

>>44388461
Kylo Ren will obviously die after having turned to the Light Side in the final mopvie. Maybe Snoke kills him or he somehow kills him as well.

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>>44388480
Smooooooosh.

>>44386605

I thought it was arright. Basically a re-doing of Episode 1 in a lot of ways, but I was never really expecting that much depth out of Star Wars. Fin's pretty cool.

I'm not convinced Ren's thing is that he's trying to be all Darkside so he can beat the crap out of the Snoker, I got more the impression he was trying to be a good apprentice and just isn't psycho enough to do it yet. Unless there's some other associated fiction that goes with it that I've missed?

As for the EU - a lot of it is absolute shite, and I guess the film's got to stand up on it's own (and the nostalgia-goggles half the viewers are wearing, admittedly)

>>44386508
Break Poe Dameron with BB-8 and Push the Limit so he can be just as cool as in the movies.

So I'm gonna give my players an opening crawl to start my d20 campaign. Does this sound alright, I'm a pretty shitty writer so I wanna know if this is easy to read and if you think it will engage the players. I'm going for a pretty simple, "escape this hostile alien world" type story.


>It has been a decade since rebellion and the fall of the empire, uncertainty grips the galaxy. Many who fought in the conflict have taken part in the rebuilding of the new galactic society, but many have gone on to use their skills to simply make a living for themselves.

>Such is the case of the crew of a simple freighter, all veterans of the civil war, despite fighting on different sides, are now trying to make a somewhat legitimate living transporting goods around the galaxy and doing odd jobs for those who don’t want to dirty their hands.

>But, on a seemingly routine job the crew warps into an unknown star system far from their original destination.

>The navigational computers are broken, the communications and distress signals fail, and the ship is unable warp out. Helpless, the crew drift in space until the come across a mysterious planet that seems uninhabited. Forces beyond their control draw the crew into the planet’s atmosphere. The ship crashes and is badly damaged, but miraculously the crew survive with only minor wounds.....

Can someone explain this ability?
· Lieutenant Blount
Z-95 Headhunter Expansion Pack

When attacking, the defender is hit by your attack, even if he does not suffer any damage.

>>44387105
>Kylo Ren couldn't be taken seriously because he acted like an immature angsty teenager that threw a temper tantrum every-time something went wrong.
So he acted like a Dark Sider.
The whole "give in to your emotions" thing the Sith always go on about?
It's just an excuse for a total lack of self control.

>>44388752
It's like how Sonic gets hit by something and loses all his rings. He can't get hit a second time, or he'll die.

>>44388752
It means advanced homing and ion pulse will always do something.
It also gets rid of the enemy stealth device reliably.

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>>44388750

A Crawl has three stanzas, and try and tie your delivery to the music cues.

The Crawl also always leaves off an explanation to what is going to be happening in the next scene.

And don't forget to the title the campaign, so thats its "STAR WARS: RETURN TO WAR" or whatever.

Otherwise, it looks good

>>44388807
k, thanks for the input. After putting this through the crawl generator thing on the official website, I realise it's way to long.

>>44388807
Okay rewrote it, how's this?

>Session 1:

>A Bad Landing

>It has been a decade since rebellion and the fall of the empire, uncertainty grips the galaxy. Many who fought in the conflict have taken part in the rebuilding of the new galactic society, but many have gone on to use their skills to simply make a living for themselves.

>Such is the case of the crew of a simple freighter, all veterans of the civil war. Despite fighting on different sides, they are now trying to make a somewhat legitimate living transporting goods around the galaxy and doing odd jobs for those who are willing to pay a high enough price.

>But, on a seemingly routine job the crew warps into an unknown star system far from their original destination. Forces beyond their control draw the crew into a mysterious planet’s atmosphere. The ship crashes and is badly damaged, but miraculously the crew survive with only minor wounds.....

>>44388967
Too long

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>>44388967

Better - but its still a little clunky

Try this...

>It has been a decade since rebellion and the fall of the empire, uncertainty grips the galaxy. Those who fought in that terrible conflict have taken part in the rebuilding of the new galactic society, yet many have left to use their skills in hope of making a living for themselves.

>Such is the case of the crew of this simple freighter. Despite having come from different sides, they now strive together, transporting goods throughout the galaxy, chasing jobs where they may find them.

>It is on this routine job in an unknown star system, that forces beyond their control draw them further into danger, shipwrecked, and marooned...

I'm no good at writing these things either, honestly...

>>44388967
>Session 1:
>A Bad Landing

>It has been a decade since the fall of the empire, uncertainty grips the galaxy. Many who fought in the conflict have taken part in the rebuilding of the new galactic society.

>Such is the case with a freighter crew, veterans of the civil war. Despite having fought on different sides, they are now trying to make a living transporting goods around the galaxy.

>But, on a seemingly routine job the crew warps into an unknown star system far from their original destination...

Trimmed it a little. Of course you need to add some BOLD sections for EMPHASIS like in all the usual opening crawls of STAR WARS.

>>44389012
Ok how's this? It's still a little longer than the actual movie crawls, but seems okay

>Session 1:

>A Bad Landing

>It has been 10 years since the galactic civil war. Many veterans, from both sides, have taken part in the rebuilding of the new galactic society, but many use their skills to make a living for themselves.

>The crew of the freighter, “Centennial Magpie” are all veterans of the civil war. They make living transporting goods around the galaxy and doing odd jobs.

>But, on a seemingly routine job the crew warps into an unknown star system far from their original destination. Mysterious forces beyond their control cause the crew to crash on a strange planet, surviving with only minor wounds....

>>44389251
>>44389100
Okay, thanks for your helps /tg/, new version, it's 86 words, in line with the movie crawls.

>Session 1:

>A Bad Landing

>It has been 10 years since the galactic civil war. Many veterans, have taken part in the rebuilding of the new galactic society, but many use their skills to make a living for themselves.

>The crew of the freighter, “CENTENNIEL MAGPIE”, are veterans of the civil war. Despite fighting on different sides, they work together transporting cargo and doing odd jobs

>But, on a routine job, the crew warps into an unknown star system. Mysterious forces beyond their control leave them shipwrecked on a strange planet…..

Haha, so liking tbe Prequels means people are apologists now?

A lot of fans openly enjoyed the PT until hating it became a meme.

If people actually understood what the prequels were about instead of just wanting to look at a screen and point at it going "hurf look its that thing I liked when I was 6" then maybe they would realize WHY people are coming out and defending it.

Lucas made a very self contained saga; both visually and thematically the prequels are a flawed, yes, but ultimately grand complement to the OT. He didn't copy it, he expanded and deconstructed the OT by mirroing and analyzing what made it Star Wars.

The new film bascially throws all of that in the trash in favor of this frankenstein of a summer blockbuster.

The Prequels drew from the same inspirational sources as the original and engaged them from a different perspective.

TFA's sole influence is the OT, and not the OT's original influences, so what we end up with is this derivative, souless piece of work that restablishes the Status Quo of the first films forcefuly and throws references up in the air enough times so the casual fan can go "Now this is star wars!" and keep quietly buying Disney's merchandise.

>>44389785
Lucas had good intentions, but they were badly written, badly made films regardless.

The clone wars cartoon and alot of the vidya that came out after the PT kinda realised Lucas' vision though.

I do think the new trilogy should do it's own thing though.

>>44390088

>badly made

Come the fuck on, if you know what he was trying to create, you know he suceeded.

He went for something between 30s serials and 50s japanese cinema, and he got it. People don't realize this and think the acting and dialogue are cringey and cheesey, when they were literally supposed to be over the top and melodramatic like that.
Lucas is a visual story teller, and you can see from camera position to editing and pacing that he really knows how to set up and structure a scene.
The delivery in a lot of scenes is really flawed, since Lucas is pretty shit at directing his actors on set, but the overall feel of "stifness" is most definitely intended.

>>44387996
>criticizes people with different opinions for posting nothing but buzzwords
>entire post is just anti-critical buzzwords
It's like poetry.

>>44387634
>>44387625

And if Siri had stayed a pirate she wouldn't have died in a stupid way. Her pirate threads were clearly best!

>>44387512
No, the flow was not damaged by having a character have a couple humorous lines. No one but people trying to be angry say "you know, that 14 parsects line was funny but I wish this story didn't take 3 seconds to say it. Now the story is somehow less developed"

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>>44390167
>The dialogue and acting are intentionally bad, so it's actually good!
>mfw

>>44390167
>Come the fuck on, if you know what he was trying to create, you know he suceeded.


Lucas may have succeeded in creating what Lucas wanted to create, but it was still garbage.

The screenplay should NEVER have seen the light of day, let alone the box office.

>>44387327
>It didn't really feel that way to me. I always found the scarcity of the Lightsaber Usage in the OT a big appeal, they're only drawn when they're absolutely needed. Luke uses his Blaster otherwise or Vader uses the Force. Lightsaber is a last resource, and when they duel it felt like it was the only possibility. They square up and you know why they're fighting, cuts to other characters let you know what's at stake. In the Prequel trilogy, I can't remember any of these lightsaber fights actually being important to other characters.


Also, Yoda doesn't even mention lightsabers when training Luke, and neither Yoda nor the Emperor wield them.

Sure, they're important weapon, but when the most powerful force users in the Galaxy don't even bother with them, they aren't THAT important part of being a Jedi.

Even Vader- in his first battle with Luke- does more damage by using the force to fling shit at him.

>>44387022

Uh, no...

Just no.

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>>44389785
>>44390088
>>44390167
I didn't 'hate' the PT nearly as much as some people, its got some good qualities and while they're not my favourite films... I've watched a lot worse! Hell I regularly torrent down some really cheesy, nasty and downright bad 70's and 80's films for the fuck of it. Because its fun and doesn't necessarily take themselves too seriously. God knows I also regularly have to suffer through all manner of deep, overly intellectual and meaningful shit too because my darling wife likes that, but I think that's just the universe reasserting itself and flagellating for me doing some terrible things in the past.

Digressing, Lucas is a story man, he comes up with some ideas and relatively decent combinations of stuff that he likes, some of it heavily borrowing from his era of the 50's and 60's.
But a director, he isn't. I think there was a space of about 20-22 years since he last had his hand in as a director and that's a real skill that like any kind of ability needs to be practised, that's what hurt him most, maybe if he hadn't taken that time off to do other kinds of movie related shit, the PT's would have been a bit better and probably a whole leap of magnitude improved if someone else had done the directing.
If anything TCW did a better job of explaining that whole era, because its spread over serials and allows for more complicated things over time that you can jam into 2-2.5hrs.

Likewise, I look at the new movie as setting the scene so to speak, for the next 2 movies where things will be better explained as the story expands. There was a lot to like about them, the acting, direction and sheer pace... holy fuck, it doesn't let up!
However, like a lot of fans I was left in the dark about who/what/why the galaxy is in the state it is. Not a lot of explanations and hope that gets expanded on in the next 2 and I'm fairly sure it will. As a movie though by itself, its also got a lot of good points to it which made it enjoyable.