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>>44372277
Dice can be handled with Google Hangouts, there's an extension that lets everyone see the dice, their results, and even manages Destiny Points. Roll20 can handle the dice by itself, but you have to pay monthly to access it.

There's no card system in FFG's system. There's cards that let you browse your talents in your talent tree and cards to let the GM easily flip through to find enemy stats, but they're just for convenience.

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2nd for Sergio Leone Boba Fett

https://youtu.be/CpZjvbSC9_M

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What's the Star Wars version of pic related?

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>>44372490

Firespray-31

if your talking about a rare ship that everybody wants because its cool as fuck.

Otherwise, the StarViper can fit that

Or if you want a ship that only had a limited production run because the company went out of business because of embezzlement and coke? No idea

>>44372475
Good to know. Thanks. Does everyone have to pay monthly or can it just be the GM?

>>44372490
Time travel is like, the only thing you can't do in Star Wars.

>>44372505
I was thinking a Royal Starship because of the chromium basically being stainless steel but those are too damn big.

>>44372516
Was more of referring to the car itself.

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Going to try out KOTOR 1 and 2 this week and was wondering which side should I pick.
Would you guys recommend the Light or Dark Side? Probably won't be able to play each one twice.

Also, thoughts on the new Star Wars Battlefront?

>>44372490
Something that nobody buys untill years later when a holoflick comes out making it popular? Maybe the model that the ebon hawk is based on

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>>44372536

Light side, but I would say go with what you want to do as the game progresses

>Battlefront
Looks fun, solid gameplay, but theres not enough without having to pay into DLC

>>44372516
Just the GM would have to get it. Though it odoes have to be the Pro subscription (one that allows API).

>>44372536
Male light side is canon ending if that matters at all. I'd recommend just playing however seems fun to you.

New Battlefront is whatever. Looks great, decent controls/gameplay, just nothing really there. If you love multiplayer and buy it at a discount, it's probably worth it.

>>44372536
Neither Kotor has a fun dark side option, I find. They're all like kicking a puppy, finding it's mother, spaying it, taking a video WHILE spaying it, and then showing it to the puppy.

Obviously, you gotta do you, I'm just saying there's no fun 'bad-guy' options like in Mass Effect.

>>44372536
Just whichever one you want. Though I would recommend Light Side, at least for the first one, otherwise you will end up... well, no spoilers, but it involves murdering at least one character who you'll probably have ended up pretty fond of, for basically no reason.

Actually, that's the problem with alignment in old Bioware games; there are no moral dilemmas, it's just "saint" or "raging asshole who kills people and ruins lives just for the sake of being a dick". The "moral choices" in those games were like "this little girl's puppy got stuck in a tree. Do you A) save the puppy, or B) burn the puppy alive and then beat the little girl to death with the burnt remains?"

Even Jade Empire ended up being like that, despite all their (as it turns out completely false) claims that "The Way of the Open Palm" and "The Way of the Closed Fist" were simply different, unique philosophies and weren't just "good" vs "evil", or more specifically "saint" vs "raging asshole".

>>44372561
Okay. Can you link me the Hangouts extension and the Roll20 app?

>>44372536
The games, as all bioware shit, actively reward light side. If you go evil, you get some bonus credits, which is utterly worthless since you'll be a millionaire from looting and selling everything anyway. If you go light side, you get xp and more quests, which means more xp. Not to mention bioware writes dark side as a puppy kicking retard.
Kotor 2: do whatever floats your boat. You'll be replaying it over the decade to come, anyway.

>>44372616
http://game2.ca/eote/
Click the "Try in Hangout" thing and it should add it to your extensions for easy access. You can also load up Roll20 in Hangouts to use all the other stuff with the extension (which is done by clicking the arrow next to "Launch Game" on your Roll20 campaign's page, and clicking "Launch in Google+").

This is the thread for the API:
https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/182569/script-edge-of-the-empire-dice-with-images-in-the-chat-window/?pagenum=1

>>44372463
>not naming that pic TIEnary Sunset

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Thanks for all the opinions guys!
The only RPGs I've played are the ME and Witcher series. Sucks if there's really no fun Dark Side options like the fun Renegade Shep in ME2.

Merry Christmas as well! My friend and I agreed to watch Star Wars VII at least 7 times for fun so I'm gonna have an interesting new year.

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>>44372726
You do you, anon!

Maybe try Dragon Age, which I find is alright even if it drags a bit. There's no real consequence for acting like a dick and I actually like the characters I run with so that's incentive to play to the influence mechanic.
Or Deus Ex, which isn't really an rpg so much, but it's still fun to run about. Especially Human Revolution where all the stealth takedowns are Jensen being an absolute dick.

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>>44372683
Not sure why mine is a different colour but I have a 1080 grab of the same scene if people want it.

>>44372463
Every time I see the image in the OP all I can think of is some Imperial Officer with an usually cowboy looking had ranting about Rebels not surfing.

>>44372475
You can also download VASSAL and use the skirmish mode module for it.

Me and my friend have fallen out of the XWM habit lately and I'm hoping to get him off the wagon over the christmas break.

It was a shame really, as both of us bought ships right at the end and then just never used them.

Basically I'm thinking of using this:

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Scum%20and%20Villainy&d=v3!s!135:140,-1,128:-1:3:;115:-1,108:-1:-1:;114:-1,108:-1:-1:;100:27,-1:16:15:U.43,U.-1

Now, I know what you're thinking, and yes, I could have been sensible and taken a Y-Wing instead of Xizor, but I just think the StarViper looks cool.
I was thinking of stripping out the Dampners and replacing Xizors VI for PTL, as PS7 is more the norm these days.

Anyway, he bought a Punisher and never got round to actually using it, so any suggestions for him? I was thinking:

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v3!s!143:36,126,1,14,17,-1,-1:-1:17:;37:98,110,28,21,-1:1:-1:U.126

But feel free to ignore that, as lord knows he does whenever I try to build him a list.

>>44372516
Nah man, the EU has you covered.
Flow-walking

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>>44373477
Oh what's not to love about cheap knockoff figurines?

>>44373471

To be fair I think this is what we were all thinking.

Are Knights of Ren all supposed to be Sith?

>>44372536
Male light is canon for KotoR1
Female light is canon for KotoR2

>>44373562
No, none of them are Sith, just Dark Side users

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>>44373471
>Darth Sideous: This is my apprentice, Dennis. He will find your lost ship.

>>44373471
Dennis the Phantom Menace

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>>44373477
Pretty fucking good!

>>44373883
Door Ladder could easily be a Knight of Ren.

>>44373900
We'd need to fiddle with the name a bit, but he could work just fine

>Dorr Ladar, Knight of Ren.

Are all the Sith supposed to be Knights of Ren?

>>44373950
also he's a Kel Dor, same species as based Plo Koon.

Hey, swg;

Merry Christmas.

>>44373523
What in the hell is flow walking and when has it come up? (posting from a phone on a bus)

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>>44373562
HA!

Sith have no fear and I sense much fear in Ren.

>>44374484
"Children draw power from fear; men draw power from HATE!"

>>44373562
No, more like emos who shoot up their school because they are so depressed.

Maybe not even gollum is a proper sith.

>>44374439
You can mass edit people's memory of the past. You don't outright change it, but you may as well have since everyone who was there has their memory changed.

It's bullshit from the "Evil Jacen" arc.

>>44373477
>The Emperor Daft Serious
That would be a pretty badass stage name for a DJ.

>>44374608
I thought flow walking was just about being able to see the past, not actually being able to interact with it.

The kotor era mandalorians that Revan fights in the war, what are they most like, mongols or what we call vikings or something else?

>>44374833
Vikings.

Not Norsemen, Vikings.

Viking being the profession of going off to sea to adventure in foreign lands and seek your fortune, whether you find it by raiding, trading, working as a mercenary, what have you.

Mandalorians were generally a culture of warriors who only ever came together if a titular Mandalore rose to enough prominence to gain the personal loyalty of each individual member who admired him enough to come and follow his leadership in whatever cause he was dedicated to, otherwise they were just a basic culture with a few rules shared by a bunch of people who spent most of their time roaming the galaxy on their own terms going about their business however they saw fit, with the general overarching goal of being professional badasses and facing worthy challenges to become stronger.

Mongols are too organized and monolithic to describe that, the Mandalorians were only unified for brief but very powerful periods and for most of galactic history had no central command structure or place to call home.

That's my understanding of it anyway, Star Wars lore is way too huge for me to understand sometimes.

>>44374671
You're correct, he's just retarded.

>>44374871
So it's a glorified investigative ability, not literal time travel. Reminds me of Psychometry or whatever Quinlan Vos had.

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>>44372463
Happy life day anons!

>>44373610
>file name not Dennis the Phantom Menace

>>44375034
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn-3U4aAzUw

>>44374976
Some say Chewbecca's dad is still masturbating to this day.

Star Wars RPGs, which one do I want? Is d20 terrible like all d20 adaptations seem contractually obliged to be? Are FFG dice bullshit? d6?

>>44374833
Aren't they more like Mongols?

>>44375591
FFG dice aren't bullshit, they're really good if you don't mind a more narrative, open ended approach. Plus the system is fun and one of the best when it comes to balancing Force users with regular Joes.

d20 is okay? It suffers from Jedi basically being 3.5 casters, from what I hear. Either you go all-Jedi or no Jedi, a mixed party isn't going to be good.

d6 is pretty sweet, but I only played it and Saga Edition once at a convention. FFG is my favourite.

I want to do a treasure hunt game for Edge Of The Empire but I have no idea what treasure to use. What are some good Star Wars treasures?

>>44375656
The back of Lords of Nal Hutta has a list of possible treasures that could be found in a long-forgotten Hutt treasure vault, you could take one of those or use it for ideas?

A gem that could be used as a lightsaber crystal or a cache of the best batch of Whyren's Reserve in three generations might be cool too, if you want something a little odd.

>>44375656
>the gauntlet of darth vader
>the anything of any sith lord ever
>the Tomb of Naga Sadow
>Weapons cache
>Basilisik war droid cache
>Sarcophagus with a sleeping sith/jedi
>a years supply of blue milk

>>44375591
>Are FFG dice bullshit? d6?
No, but as I understand it FFG's interpretation of star wars force philosophy is heavily entrenched in it's mechanics so if your views on star wars differ you may have some problems.

>>44375656
Lost Cargo hauler?
Crashed merchant ship?
smuggler that went mia during his 'last big coup'?

Anything from weapons to medical supplies could be the actual treasure though, especially in he outer rim.

>>44375699
Que? I'm not seeing any Force philosophy in how the mechanics work. Care to enlighten me?

>>44375744
I haven't played it myself, but I'm pretty sure it has to do with the darkside lightside dichotomy and how those things interact with your Jedi/Sith character.

>>44375782
That's... been a thing in every Star Wars game ever. If you're talking the Morality rules in Force and Destiny, it doesn't seem that difficult to be a good character who periodically waxes people with hatelightning or Diet Choke if it's necessary. Plus, unlike d6 and more tight-assed Saga GMs you can keep playing if your character falls to the dark side and try to redeem them, or vice-versa if that's your bag.

Then again, I'm currently playing a Force-sensitive Hutt with no overtly offensive Force powers, just a lot of very large guns and the power of swole.

>>44375820
>f you're talking the Morality rules in Force and Destiny,
Yea I think that's it.

>it doesn't seem that difficult to be a good character who periodically waxes people with hatelightning or Diet Choke if it's necessary.
Could you elaborate on this? As I said I'm mostly ignorant of the mechanics and this sounds surprising.

>>44375782
If anything, ffg is the laxest when it comes to light and dark side mechanical bullshit.

>>44375820
All the tabletop RPGs Don't seem to handle characters from neutral force factions very well.

Je'daii, order of revan , the doomed, etc; orders focused on Deliberately staying around the middle of light & dark.

>>44375893
Okay. Your Morality goes up or down every session by the result of a d10 roll compared to Conflict points you've accrued during the session. You get Conflict by puppy-kicking, evil bastardry, and using the "evil" reverse versions of Protect and Heal. Also calling upon the dark side to activate Force abilities.
Roll higher than your Conflict and your Morality rises by the difference, roll lower than it and it drops by the difference. It's pretty simple.

If you're careful and don't go apeshit, you can have a slow, steady rise towards high Morality despite using dark-side abilities once in a while. Incidentally, there are mechanical benefits to both light and dark: light boosts your Strain threshold, but going dark lowers it in exchange for boosting your Wounds instead.

Best way to get into XWM on a budget?
Want to have at least a competitive rebel and imp force and want to spend as little as possible. What besides picking up the starter sets?

How do the Resistance and First Order factions work in XWM? Do they count as Rebel/Imperial, or are they going to be their own factions? I'm thinking about getting into the game with the TFA starter set, but I might wait if there'll be a whole line for the new stuff.

>>44376160
Reb/Imp.

>>44376160
>Do they count as Rebel/Imperial,
Yes.

>>44376100
Maybe starter set and both aces?

>>44376100

Rebel is easy.
TFA core for Poe then pick between the Outrider, Millenium Falcon, Rebel Aces, and K-wing to round out the list.

Imperial takes a bit more to buy into competitively right now, as some of it's most important upgrades come with the Raider.
A budget build would pair a VT-49 Decimator with whatever else floats your boat. Typical "competitive" lists would feature either Soontir Fel or Whisper.

>>44376602

Different guy, but would a second T-70 and TIE/fo work well? Gets some extra cards and upgrades. Though as Rebel the Outrider looks like a nice way to expand.

>>44372490
falcon

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Wishlisting hard for X-Wing. Would you like to see a TFA Aces pack and Scum and Villainy Veterans?

More named pilots for Scum ships like the Kihraxz and Scyk, plus maybe some crew (Hondo for Scum.) Possibly some new Elite Talents and Illicit upgrades or titles. Kihraxz Fighter gets different version in this pack.
Rey, Finn, BB-8 crew, Nien Nunb T-70 pilot for Resistance.
General Ginger, Emo Ren, and Captain Falc-, er, Phasma crew, TIE/sf Expansion (Turret Primary Weapon) for First Order.
New Tech upgrades?
Poe Dameron's custom-painted X-Wing when?

>>44376632

Sure. Both good ships that come with good cards.

>>44376934

For the T-70 we still don't have pilot cards for "That Guy from Heroes, no not the japanese guy that other guy" and Chinese QT.

As for Scum, whilst some more pilots for either the Special-K or the Scyk would be nice, the Starviper needs them more.
A 28pt PS5 generic with an EPT wouldn't go amiss for it either.

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KoToR people, if I'm only going to play one game which do you recommend any why? Are there any huge differences besides storyline/characters? Is the first one necessary to play the second? I don't have as much time on my hands as i used to so I want to play the best version of the game.

>>44377051
I think that other guy is heavily implied to be the "Blue Ace" from the TFA core set

>>44377076
Play the second one. Parts are more impactful if you played the first but it's not necessary.

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Haven't seen anyone talk about this, but...

I felt like many of the later dogfights in TFA were really detached. You don't really experience them with the pilots in the way that you did in previous movies. You watch some of the best moments of the film from the ground, or from far away.

>>44376934
Why is Poe's X-Wing blacked? Reference to his future with Finn?

>>44377076
The first one has a more classic 'star wars' story, the second is more 'look at us pick apart the underpinning of star wars'. The second also has a bit more to offer on the gameplay side of things.

Also, if you don't go for the reconstruction mod, the second's story really falls apart once you start getting to the ending.

>>44377051

>For the T-70 we still don't have pilot cards for "That Guy from Heroes, no not the japanese guy that other guy" and Chinese QT.

Those could be Red and Blue Ace. They do have "Alien Beastie Boys Reference," though. For the short time he was on screen, I like him.

Would also be neat to have a "Black One" T-70 title, Poe's custom ship. Though frankly it seems a little too high detail, this new trilogy doesn't have a whole lot of detail in it so far for pure fighter combat, just two different types of TIEs and X-Wing Mk. II.

Tech upgrade could be whatever those "Mag-pulse Launchers" are. Different weapon? Mini Ion-Cannon?

>>44377076
KOTOR II's story is better imo

>>44377107

We're watching it from Finn's perspective, we get more Poe's-eye-view when he gets into the lst dogfight.

>>44372557

Who is the knockout with the force pike?

>>44377076
The second one, no question. It is a fucking masterpiece, hands down the most well-written Star Wars media that exists. Now, I know that's not saying much, but trust me, it's a masterpiece. It was written by the same people who wrote Planescape: Torment, so that should be a mark of its quality.

If possible, though, I would strongly recommend that you play it with patches.

>>44377076
Kotor 1 is a classic, fun Star Wars story with good gameplay and characters. Kotor 2 is a deconstruction and celebration of Star Wars. Also you have to play Kotor 2 with the lost content mod.

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>>44377139
spess elf

>>44373950
Wrong, the Knights of Ren all use the surname Ren. It's like the new Darth, except there's also a full group of them. Sorry to burst the bubble of fun.

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After trawling through Wookipedia, I've found that both of them were Blue Squadron pilots.

So, one of them could be Blue Ace, but neither of them were leader of Blue Squadron, so they can't do what they did for the TIE/fo where they had X Ace and X Leader.

so basically, one of them probably has a card, one of them doesn't.

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My sister surprised me with the Tantive 4 , the Decimator, and a Kihaxz fighter for Christmas. Today was a good day. Also Star Tours, What are you doing here?

>>44377125
I can see a Black One pack which has the model and a bunch of new pilots, plus a TIE/sf release for Imperials.

Oh, and did anyone else find it kind of douche-y for the Rebellion to have stolen the Black Squadron from the Empire? Like, I know the Rebels always use the various colors for theirs, and we Imperials went for either Spooky Words, Words for Black, or Numbers, but I mean... Poe is straight up shit-talking Dead Vader by using Black One / Black Leader as his callsign.

>>44377280

Still, kind of hard to justify giving out a ship with an existing pilot for an existing pilot, especially when its generic version is an available expansion already. I figure I'll just paint my T-70 myself.

TIE/sf, however, is justifiably different craft with different abilities over a standard TIE/ln or /fo.

>>44377326
TIE/sf will probably just come down to being a TIE/fo title that gives you a Turret slot. I'd like a separate ship with a rear arc, but I'm accepting of the under-whelming future.

>>44376934
>stuff for S&V

silly anon, FFG doesn't actually give a shit about scum. Scum is just a way to release baby mode shit before the upgraded version is given to Rebels or Imperials

>>44377051
>More pilots for the Scyk or Starviper

Those ships would have to not suck shit before a new pilot is going to help.

>>44377306
What's vader gonna do, show up as a force spirit and choke him?

He's dead, and unless luke spread the word about his last-minute redemption, he's gonna be generally known as that Empire shitter, so fuck him.

>>44377136
>tfw never going to get a Poe's-eye-view of that 10 second slaughter he went on

>>44377306
Well, there's no actual Black Squadron. There's Blue Squadron, Red Squadron, and Black Leader. Presumably the unorthodox designation is to represent that Poe has flight command over both squadrons, since there's no Red Leader, just an "R1" called out getting shot down in the final dogfight.

Why is EU worldbuilding so shit? Every alien species has one single society in which every aspect entirely revolves around whatever profession/traits/etc. were possessed by any single character of that species who appeared in the movies.

There was one Rodian who was a thug, so all of Rodian civilization revolves around being a thug. Jabba the hut was a crime lord, so their entire civilization revolves around being crimelords. There was an antenna guy with a really stupid name (Sleasebaggo or something) from Attack of the Clones who was a drug-dealer and sold "death sticks", so all antenna people are drug dealers and their entire civilization revolves around selling "death sticks".

Also why would a drug be called "death sticks"? Who would consume a "death stick"? It's not like they call cigarettes "cancer rolls".

Also literally every single character that appeared in even a single scene in the movies has a dumb backstory novel trilogy and it's usually stupid and has Luke/Han/Leia/other main characters from the movies shoehorned in even where it makes no sense for them to be.

>>44377351

The viper is a fine ship. Nothing wrong with it except that you can only fly one of them with upgrades.

The scyk is probably the worst ship in the game, but not by a huge margin. A couple of worthwhile pilots would go a long way towards making it tourny viable, in addition to Juke and the upcoming Tractor Beam & Cloaking Device.

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>>44377306
yes, the ones trying to destory an anti-star system weapon are the douches

>>44377306

Black's a color don't get technical on me, you cheeky bitch so why not? Besides, Vader is dead and the Rebellion got to be a New Republic. To the victors go the spoils and with them the authority to use the Black Squadron monicker. Also, they had Grey already, so it was just a step away.

>>44377349

Well, you'd need a ship to represent that turret and paintjob. Plus the extra armor and stuff around the wing mount and the possibility of its slightly larger size. TIE/sf looks just different enough to merit its own Expansion.

>Get umbrella, five pairs of new pants, a Johnny Cash t-shirt, TFA calendar standee, and the TFA soundtrack from my folks
>Sister gets me a retro Star Wars t-shirt and five Star Wars 'blueprints' prints off Etsy

AWww yus, we Star Wars now. And rocking the paper crown from the christmas cracker.

And I got them Freakonomics, the new Eric Clapton release, and a book about the random shit librarians deal with as well as some scented soaps. Know your audience, yo.

>>44377076
It depends on what you want out of it.
If you want a classic Star Wars plot, 1 is your man (or woman, as the case may be) and you can choose to lie, cheat, and steal your way across the galaxy to save or doom the Republic.

If you want something that feels more like Fallout, 2 is there for you, even if you have to mod the shit out of it to make it work right. And when I say it feels like fallout, I mean in that there's no clear right answer, things you do can (and will) make things worse, everyone in your party has some ulterior motive and are generally unlikable (except M4, HK-47, and Canderous but they're returning so that's technically cheating and they didn't take advantage of the free valium the other VAs apparently got).
It's a more thought-provoking story but I'd argue less that it's deep and more on par with a small child who asks 'why' at everything you say. Why do Jedi do the things they do? Why is the Force a thing? Why are you even trying to save the galaxy, what's it ever done for you? Why do you believe the person giving you exposition even when in the first fifteen minutes of knowing you, they show a complete disregard for basic decency or privacy? Why have compelling characters when you can write a bunch of assholes and call it de- I'm sorry, did I say that?

It's your call.

>>44377407
Blame nerds beig idiots. Like how people went out of their way to justify how the Kessel Run could be measured in Parsecs (ignoring the most obvious answer that Han was bullshitting).

Still, that's larely been wrapped up now.

One good thing about Clone Wars was it showed us one culture (Mandolorians) that had multiple different subcultures instead of being entirely monolithic.

>>44377407
>all hutts are crime lords
Tell that to motherfucking Beldorion, Hutt Jedi
>all rodians are thugs
Bitch please, Rodian drama is one of the best artforms in the galaxy. Even if it is more violent than regular plays, it proves they're more than just hired guns. Fuck, I'd put money on Avaro Sookcool not killing anyone in his entire life

I'll take the EU over the dogshit Disney are pumping out any day of the week. Literally the only good new thing I've seen from nucanon is that swole lightsaber-collecting Hutt in the comics

>>44372516
>Time travel is like, the only thing you can't do in Star Wars.

Disney Star Wars, who knows...

>>44377546
>Not taking Poe and Finn's pure love and best ship and BB-8 away from nucanon
Who are you even kidding.

>>44377578
>actually wanting Rey Sue, Wendig's attempts to write sci-fi and Snoke Weed Erryday over Mandalore the Bearded and transparisteel legs
Shit taste detected

The Pastebin link for the Unofficial Species Menagerie is broken, does anyone have a copy?

>>44377381
Seriously though. Shit was dope.

>>44377578

Mara Jade should come back, but I'll accept an equally compelling substitute.

Also, maybe Ahsoka to be back, but she's got her own plot for Rebels, so if she shows up in VIII or IX, she'll be shown to have survived and it'll be a let down for us.

Though if you ask me, she's probably the one who dropped off Vader and Luke former lightsaber at Maz's. Or maybe that was the Crimson Corsair. Who fucking knows.

>>44377409
This, sort of. The Viper is a beautiful beast. The only problem you run into is the fact that ultimately, you can only really fly one. You have to have the Virago upgrade in order for it to be 'tournament viable,' and one of the pilots is based solely around letting your other ships get fucked while he cruises around and snorts Space Cocaine on his way to date rape.

And the Scyk is shit, but it's also fair enough shit. If you're playing in Epic and want a kinda-maneuverable squadron of cheap fucks with Manglers that have some decent synergy, they're usable. Shitty little space potatoes, but you can still make stew out of them.

>>44377426
You predicted me so well, Anon. Fair enough, though. It just seems sort of strange that you'd want your faction's best pilot flying under the callsign of Vader. I was fairly surprised they didn't have him flying under Rogue One.

And fair enough about the armor and such, but I still wouldn't hold out hope. And there's no real need to have a model with a turret on it if it's just a Title upgrade that gives a Turret slot.

>>44377546
Poe's a bro. Kylo is enjoyable and the Knights of Ren have good potential. And Space Hitler Hux has some potential as well. Though at the same time, my respect for !Not-Moff !Not-Tarkin was sort of ruined when Starkiller was collapsing and he runs like a child to Snoke for 'wat du I duuuuu daddy' rather than just taking charge himself. Though, if he had done so, he probably would have abandoned Kylo, so... Eh. At least he didn't go down with Death Star 3.

>>44377620

Pretty sure You could pull something like that in X-Wing, but you'd be eating Stress Tokens like popcorn and need to toll some damn good Damage rolls against some damn poor Evade rolls.

>>44377641
The /fo uses a unique mold, so it's highly probable that the /sf will get one too.

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>>44377628
disney don't like the Irish anon sorry

>>44377606
>putting words in my mouth
>assuming I said anything about Rey or Wendig
>not liking Poe and Finn's pure love
>not liking adorable soccer ball best new droid
It's Christmas, yo. Open up your heart and let the Oscar Isaac Christmas in.

>>44377628
Thatd' be such a weird thing. Does that means she just follows Luke around like a lost puppy and just like.....
Oh god, if she gives the lightsaber to Maz, what does she do with the hand......
Ugh.

>>44377076
Lots of people will suck KotOR 2's dick and say it's the greatest thing ever and that it's a masterpiece and shit. It isn't. It's an incomplete mess that I personally feel completely misses the point of the entire setting. And yes, I played with the restored content mod, it's still unfinished and full of holes, they've just been patched over a bit more. Chris Avellone even admitted that he never liked Star Wars, but people give him a free pass because he wrote Planescape: Torment (which uses a setting much more suited to his style).

That's not to say KotOR 1 is perfect; Bioware was always largely predictable and simplistic even before being bought by EA, but Star Wars fits that style perfectly, and it honestly feels like they "get it."

That's just my opinion, though. YMMV.

>>44377606
>I don't like character
>must be sue

You keep using this term, I don't think you know what it really means.

>>44377641
>Kylo is enjoyable
https://youtu.be/2HSoSBle8AQ

>>44377663
Their love will never match Face and Phanan and you know it

>>44377244

Also, is it me, or with the inclusion of Jessika Pava in TFA we now have X-Wing pilots called Biggs, Wedge and Jessie? Thus completing the Final Fantasy meme trio?

>>44373883
>Galaxies are far, far away.

Aww.

>>44377663

>not liking adorable soccer ball best new droid

When he was telling BB-8 to run in the beginning, I was almost sure he was going to punt the thing to give it a running start. Though I think that wouldn't do as much as you would expect, Finn had a hard time carrying it when they dove into the Falcon's engineering crawlspace.

If anything, if she's Rey's mother, she was probably the one to squirrel away Rey to keep her from falling down the path of the Jedi Academy. She could probably tell things were going to get fucky with the way Luke was training them. Or Rey was hidden away for some other strange reason.

Either way, That's going to be a reveal for two.

>>44377705
...You realize the Meme Duo -- Jessie is just a throw-away shitter that is only present in the shittiest FF game -- are named for Biggs and Wedge from Star Wars originally, right?

>>44377662
>that clearly adult Mara
But Mara's actually younger than Luke. She'd be younger than Ezra if she showed up in Rebels.
>>44377690
>No better
Yes, better, sir.

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Merry Christmas, /swg/

>>44377076
KOTOR 1 is too paint by the number for me in terms of story, characters, and dialogue. merely competent. Purists will swear its the GOAT or something. 8/10

II is the Empire Strikes Back. deeper and darker in terms of story, setting, and characters. and that new update it got earlier this year makes running it easier and fixed a fuck ton of bugs. 9.5/10

>>44377628
I would so hype if they brought back Mara Jade as Rey's mom.

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>>44377641
>one of the pilots is based solely around letting your other ships get fucked while he cruises around and snorts Space Cocaine on his way to date rape.


Oh man.
Now I want a Starviper pilot who can re-use glitterstim...

>>44377076

I had twice as much fun with KoToR1 as I did with 2. 1 is much, much, MUCH more Star Wars than 2.

>>44377778

Something like Tomax Bren for Illicit slots?

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>>44377777
Sorry, you get Phasma instead. Though those Lucky Quints give me hope.

>>44377812

Exactly

>>44377777
Quints confirm!

Get hype!!!!

>>44377777
Quints of hope and prophecy.

>>44377838

That's a lot of stims. Man.
They should make a one-use one that says you can ignore a critical with the Pilot type. Space painkiller abuse to go with your space cocaine.

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so you guys think canon Inquisitors were recruited?

Former padawans?
Agricultural Corps?
kidnapped at birth?

>>44377733

Yes.

And Jessie was not in FF13 what the hell are you talking about.

>>44377898
>kidnapped at birth
What do you think Sheev was doing with those babies...

Other than drinking their blood and punting them into Lava?

>>44377856
>a one-use illicit upgrade that does the same thing as a 1 point EPT
For what purchase? And just use Loads of Emone for the nane of the limitless supply of stim.

>>44377914

Suppose you're right, though to can grab a completely different EPT along with it.

>>44377911
Its just fifth brother and seventh sister seem a little too old to be kidnapped babies from that season 2 ep plot thread of TCW.

Rebels is like 4 years before ANH right? They don't look 16 to me

>>44377962
>thinking Sheev JUST started doing this during the Clone Wars
Come on man, our brah Sheevy-P plays the long game.

>>44374671
>>44374871
>>44374901
I'm pretty sure Jacen used flow walking to mass-edit memories in the Darth Caedus saga thing.

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>>44377898
In Rebels there was some sort of plot point about the Grand Inquisitor visiting various training academies looking for force sensitives, so there's that.

There's also that thing from TCW where Sheev was kidnapping babies. As for the age issue that >>44377962 brings up, he was probably doing it long before the Republic found out.

There are probably a few former padawans in the mix as well.

What do you guys think about these two plot twists? Kylo Ren going lightside and Rey going sith. And it was Luke that killed the padawans making Kylo go darkside

>>44376100
Poe, Miranda, Y-Wing.
Add BTL, autothrusters and R3A2 when you can afford them.

Alternatively, Whisper and four TIE/FOs.

>>44378117
That's even dumber than the current trend of people shipping rey and ren

>>44378117
>Kylo Ren going lightside
That's literally going to be the point of the trilogy. We're replacing Vader with Kylo, Yoda with Luke. Though at some point, Luke will die / get killed in the second movie and his last words will be to Rey, "I am... you father."

>>44378117
plot twists only work when the story builds up to them and they make sense for the story, not just because they are shocking.

"No I am your Father" worked because for a movie and half Luke had been trying to emulate Obi Wan and his idea of his Jedi Knight father. Luke learning that his dad is really one of the evilest guys in the galaxy and that Obi Wan lied to him really threw the rug out from under him (and us by extension).

I wouldn't be surprised if Kylo gets redeemed by Part IX (Kylo gets plenty of redemption flirting) but where's Rey's seeds of evil? and why would Luke kill the younglings?

I actually doubt kylo will get an actual chance at redemption for more than ten seconds before he dies.
Audiences won't stand for a parricide becoming a "good guy"; the man MURDERED HIS OWN FATHER while he was trying to save him. He was offered redemption and rejected it in the most irrevocable way possible. He's not gonna get a second try, or at least he's not gonna survive it

>>44378227
>plot twists only work when the story builds up to them and they make sense for the story, not just because they are shocking.
I wish somebody told kojima this

>>44378240

Seems like, at a certain point, redemption comes at the cost of your life. The Dark Side and subservience to the Emperor was pretty much the only thing keeping Vader alive, and he probably knew he was going to eat it when he gave that up for the love of his son.

At a certain point, when you've given up your life to the Dark Side, that's what you have to give up to turn back to the light. The only redemption you can have is with your sacrifice. Kylo might just be past this point. He's murdered tons of innocents, his own father, and played party to a regime that just wiped out millions, if not billions of beings, steals children from their parents, and practices extreme ruthlessness and dehumanization.

How do you come back from that and have everything be fine?

>>44378407
>he probably knew he was going to eat it when he gave that up for the love of his son.

I always thought the lightning and the saber fight did him in

>>44376934
I want a square antenna falcon with Rey, Old Han and Old Chewe pilots, Rey, Finn, BB-8 and Old Chewe crew and Poe's T-70 with some other T-70 pilots

>>44378431

Lightning, mostly. Fighting just wore him down and lost him a mechanical hand.

Lighting fried his life-support systems, guy was half machine already. Without that, and his strength in the Dark Side given up, he was basically just holding on so he could reconcile with Luke for a minute.

>>44378175
If Rey actually ends up being Luke's daughter I will actually walk out of the theater and demand my money back.

>>44378485
Really? In a film series about family, you'd be mad if the Protagonist in a film in which every main character (inb4 prequles had no main character) has been a member of the Skywalker family, turned out to be a member of the Skywalker family.

>>44378479

Rectangle antenna Falcon isn't going to be released. A new Millennium Falcon just for a paint job that makes it look like more garbage and a rectangle antenna is a waste.

Good 'ol Mel_Miniatures on Shapeways sells a rectangle antenna part and lists some basic modding instructions, though.

We would only need count on FFG to release TFA crew and pilots after that. The next movie might see us some new ships, and with them the potential for new trilogy releases.

>>44377760
fuck man I didnt draw it

>>44378485
>>44378536

The fucking lightsaber called to her. The one owned by Anakin, the one owned by Luke. That's a fucking family connection right there, bruv.

Look, just make your peace with it now, you have a couple of years, but if you're going to somehow maintain that much butthurt in the face of the evidence, you've done this to yourself. There's always the longshot that it won't be it, but if you're betting on that you're the fool in this equation.

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>>44378583
that's just her inner jawa going crazy over the historical value of the object, she didnt know the exact value but luckily she has a buddy she can call who is an expert in such matters

>>44378536
Yes, I would. Why? Because it's terrible, lazy writing, it would be played up as this big surprise to rival the "I am your father" reveal despite it being the most obvious thing in the world, and worst of all it means that in the entire, huge fucking galaxy, the only people who are allowed to be important are people related to the Skywalkers. It's a terrible fucking idea.

It's a new series with new characters, the prophecy has been fulfilled, and there's no real reason other than familiarity for the Skywalkers to be the most important family to ever exist now and forever.

>>44378639

Let me call in my buddy. He's an expert on elegant weapons from more civilized ages.

>>44378583
>The fucking lightsaber called to her. The one owned by Anakin, the one owned by Luke. That's a fucking family connection right there, bruv.
It was in Obi-Wan's possession a lot longer than Anakin and Luke's combined. Anakin builds it after Dooku breaks his on Geonosis, has it three years until Obi-Wan takes it on Mustafar. Obi-Wan keeps it for 19 years. Obi-Wan gives it to Luke, who loses it three years later in Cloud City.
>19>(3+3)
In fact
>19>((3+3)*3)

>>44378549
Naw man, it's okay. I ain't saying you did.

>>44378652
don't worry, they have another masked character (with a more marketable gender) that can say "I am your parent"

>>44377641
>You have to have the Virago upgrade in order for it to be 'tournament viable,'

The funny thing is, Guri's action economy with the free focus means you can pretty much get away with just giving her Predator and /maybe/ Autothrusters (though you shouldn't be spending much time at Range 3, the thing has SUCH a dial.

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Are there any official prices for DUM-series pit droids in the FFG rpg? Any stat blocks for them?

Going by the EotE core book, 7500 credits seems like a lot for one pit droid.

>>44378639

>Pawn Star Wars

Don't think so small! Think big like ze Americans!

Think of:

>Star Storage Wars

>Luke bids heavily on a pair droids in bin 17, hoping that there might be something of worth on their hard drives. The protocol droid is standard kit droid with finnicky personality matrix, but he get's lucky with the R2 astromech, as it contains complete mint condition plans for the Death Star.

>Wedge and Hobbie get into a bidding war with Darth Vader over the contents of lot twelve. However the two were working together to get Vader to blow all his money on what turns out to be a bin full of fire damaged Ewok dolls. Ackbar pulled out of the bidding early, sensing something was up.

>Leia get's into a blazing row with Han when they bid heavily what turns out to be an old T-16 Skyhopper missing it's engine block under a tarp. Han assures Leia he know people who are into these vintage parts, she remains skeptical. They just recoup their losses thanks in part to their being a box of vintage PlayTwilek's on the pilots seat.

>Lot 14 is booby trapped by Boba Fett.

>>44378661

Rey is Obi-Wan's... Wait, how? Granddaughter, maybe?

Though Obi-Wan didn't use it, he kept it in a box. Anakin used it, Luke used it. And for over 30 years it's probably been kicked around between powers, collectors, and scattered other people, though probably not very many other Jedi.

Length of time does not possession make. It was build by a Skywalker for a Skywalker, and used by two already. And since everyone makes such a big deal over lightsaber's being a Jedi's badge of office and tool, it might as well hold as much significance as flesh and blood.

And look at the fight between Rey and Kylo. Kylo wants Darth Vader's lightsaber because he's a Vader fanboy, but Rey's a Luke fangirl. They're fighting over their inheritance, whether the Skywalker Legacy is one of the light or dark.

>>44378691

I KNEW IT!
Crimson Corsair confirmed for Rey's parent.

>>44378691
>implying that they both aren't
Especially with the visions and the fact it is one of the only ways to make Phasma less than a 100% jobber, you can get ready for Phasma being the mother. From the Imperial hallways, the First Order vessel flying away when Young Rey is left on Jakku. Get ready for the Double Reveal.

>>44378760
PIT droids are like a middling cross between a repair droid and a labor droid, they're fuckoff strong for their size, and at least somewhat capable of welding jobs and the like, when their programming doesn't break into retardation.

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>>44378762

>>44378778
It looked more like a Star Tours shuttle than anything First Order.

>>44378778

Phasma? Might work. Does Phasma even see Rey in person? Pretty sure she would know Rey's been taken into custody.

Wait...
Fuck.

First Order steals kids for conscription, training them to be soldiers. Rey was hid away on Jakku, a junkball planet near Wild Space, where a splinter of the Imperial Remnant turned into the First Order.

Rey's white as snow, so is Gwendoline Christie, and Rey's got some of the same muted features...

Nigger you might have nailed the plot reveal on the head, though I'm not going to discount Luke's "involvement" in it.

>>44378778
after this movie my expectations for the plots of the next few are rock bottom

>>44378843
>you might have nailed
people have been pointing it out since day fucking one, man

look and chrome dome sitting in a tree

>>44373015
>It Ain't Sheev starts playing

>>44378652
Well so far the film hasn't faffed about with spoilers. Ren's parentage was just dropped in conversation, immediately debunked the "Luke is his father" shit, I can't imagine the writers would be sat spinning in a chair going "Nobody would EVER see this twist coming", when it's one of the most famous lines from Star Wars and twists in Cinematic history.

>>44378862

I've been avoiding internet spoilers for quite a while. Didn't get to see the movie until a few days ago because I had to deal with a short move between states.

>>44375899
>>44375820
>>44375893
>>44375782
Morality isn't mandatory if you're Force Sensitive/starting from a FaD career.

>>44377618
http://www.mediafire.com/view/7wlsz28v6be9g38/131208_Edge%20of%20the%20Empire%20Species%20Menagerie_Highres.pdf

>>44377898
Isn't that The Son?

>>44378485

She's definitely a child of the force (descendant of Anakin). But she might also be a clone of Luke or something.

Also my theory is that Luke saw what Ben was becoming due to Snoke's influence, but didn't want to kill him so he tried to cut Ben off from the Force. It backed fired, and Luke got cut off from the Force while Ben saw this as the ultimate betrayal.

>>44379099
Cutting people off from the force was the stupidest plot point of KotOR 2, and that game was full of stupid plot points

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What's some decent SW fanfiction?

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I'm hoping the writers pull a fast one and reveal that Luke had a kid who was sent to live with Uncle Wedge under an alias after the purge.

>>44379308
Anything with Thrawn

>>44378652
It also makes absolutely no goddamn sense for Luke Skywalker, the guy who was literally willing to throw his life away for his father, to leave his own daughter on some backwards shithole desert planet with some random asshole to collect garbage all day.

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>>44378843
>muted features
Don't forget their giant toothy maws. It's one thing that RLM were good at pointing out. Kylo's actor has Harrison's Roman nose, and Rey's actress basically looks like a young Natalie Portman. You add in Christie's features to make up the rest, and you have Daisy Ridley.

Like, seriously. I plugged Portman and Christie into an 'If They Mated' morpher, and ended up with Blonde Daisy Ridley.

>>44379308
If you like cheesy comedic action-y stuff, XWW's stuff is fun. Otherwise, there ain't a whole ton

>>44379424
In my understanding of it, it isn't Luke that abandoned her. Here's my assumed order of operations

>Luke and Phasma bone
>Babby poops out
>Luke's academy goes tits up and he scrambles
>Phasma ends up with the First Order
>Phasma realizes that she's working with Force-hungry baby-snatchers and hides her daughter away on a planet that's just out of the way enough to avoid being found but close enough that she can retrieve her when her father returns from his pilgrimage
>During events of TFA, Phasma finds out through surveillance that Finn and Han are there to rescue Rey
>Willingly complies with her kidnappers knowing that they are trying to save her daughter
>Hops into trash compactor and bugs out using the same method she'd planned on if Luke returns
>Rey ends up finding Luke with him giving her an 'Oh shit, it's her' look at the end of the movie
>Phasma is ready to kick Kylo's ass for hurting her baby girl and will actually be competent in the next movies

The dream is that she her time in the First Order / her prior life as whatever will lead her to being a strictly by-the-books soldier-woman. I think someone posted a few generals ago about a scene where she finally finds Rey and reveals that she's her mother in the midst of a firefight with Rey flipping out and asking what they're supposed to do now with Phasma's reply being something along the lines of, "Well, FN-2187 will provide covering fire from this position while you engage them. I will flank from the right, taking up position on that ridge," while Rey just stares at her with an Are-You-Fucking-Kidding-Me look.

>>44379430

They were pretty damn good at casting the child counterparts of these actors. Looking back at Daisy as a kid, I could have sworn they shot that scene ten or fifteen years ago when she was little.

>>44379031
>Morality isn't mandatory if you're Force Sensitive/starting from a FaD career.
What do you mean isn't mandatory?

>>44379566
I know this theory kind of makes since and all, but it's confirmed that Phasma as a character was created rather latter on in development becouse JJ fell in love with a piece of concept art for Kylo's armor they ended up not using.

>>44379707

But he's not in charge of the story's next act.

>>44379728
Yea, but you're (or whoever made the post I'm responding to) evidence relies on JJ setting things up in advance like casting similar looking actresses.

>>44379811

The directors of the next movies actually did coordinate with JJA to add in things for their own acts, or at least get the important beats down.

One of those details may have been Phasma's casting. It might be in the realm of kind of unlikely, but it's not beyond the scope of the possible.

>>44379566
The problem here is that Luke's academy going tits up would have happened years after Rey was born, because Kylo Ren was the main player in that and he appears to be roughly the same age as Rey.

>>44379922
I was assuming it was Kylo's preteens / early teens which what I vaguely remember Rey being during the flashback to her being left behind. I mean, it happened long enough ago that Han and Leia have basically gone completely separate ways.

>>44372775
A bit late, but I'd like to add that I did really like that Dragon Age's moral choices didn't have some objective Light Side/Dark Side or Paragon/Renegade slider. So your choice to be nice or be a dick is entirely based on what YOU think is the best choice in the situation, rather than thinking you need some more Renegade points so you're going to be a

>>44380017
Fuck, posted on accident. Don't know how I managed that.
To continue my thought, you don't have to be a dick/goody two-shoes just because you want points in a certain field.
Its six years in development really show. Both the good, and the bad. But it's still the best in the series.
DA2 was just a mess that was really crippled by its shit engine.
DAI had good ideas and opened the world up considerably, but the story just felt weaker than before. It just didn't have the weight of impending doom the way the first one did.

The problem with Luke and phasma as rey's parents is the age thing; phasma is short of 40 and rey's 20-ish. Luke would have had to gotten phasma Teenage Pregnant when he was in his mid-30s, which really doesn't seem like something he'd do

>>44380213
There's also the height to consider. Luke was too short for a Stormtrooper and Gwendoline Christie is just over 6'3".
So Luke would have had to have had an underage giantess fetish.
That'd mean he's one of us.

>>44379974
She looked a lot younger than preteen in the flashback. I'd say like 7 or 8.

>>44379707
>What do you mean isn't mandatory?
Like the Duty and Obligation, you only have to have at least one of them, but you're not restricted to which one you take. Pg. 338-339 in FaD. It only recommends people take the mechanic in their core book (ie. Bounty Hunter takes Obligation, Seeker takes Morality) for the sake of simplicity and to have a matching mechanic to their career, but you're still free to take whichever you choose and for Force-Sensitives, not taking Morality just means that they won't be affected by Light/Dark Side Paragon stuff (this basically puts them into EotE/AoR territory where it's up to the GM to determine any narrative/mechanical effects for being too good or too bad).

>>44380213
If Phasma is the mother, I doubt Luke is the father. Regardless of her mother's identity, if Luke is her father they need to come up with a very good reason she's been abandoned on some shithole desert world.

I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out Phasma is some sort of double agent with some ties to either the Resistance, or Luke specifically though. I was about to say perhaps she even told Finn and Han off camera when they grabbed her, especially because neither is currently in a position to tell anyone else but then I remembered Chewie was there too.

>>44380490
>>44380213
I'd honestly rather not have Phasma be some sort of blood relation to anyone. Just let her be a cool-looking Imperial and hope she does something more useful than Boba Fett ever did.

>>44379566
And I stand by that as being the best possible reveal just like they can never match Vader so they didn't try, they should counter the drama of the previous twist with a total lack of drama from Phasma. Shit would be cash.

>>44379566

I would like that she slips right into commander mode and starts calling Finn by his ID.

>>44380292
I wouldn't count a 6ft3 woman as giantess any more than I would count a 6ft7 guy as giant; I feel like 8 feet is the absolute lower limit for that kind of thing

>>44380629
boba fett has a cooler helmet, a jetpack, a flame thrower, a rocket launcher and the firespray

And I doubt fantastic 4sma will be able to match the riot trooper at this point.

>>44380896
No one's saying Fett doesn't have the cooler costume, but that's really all he has going for him in the original trilogy.
Riot Trooper gets points for actually doing something.
Phasma hasn't done anything and it would be a damn shame if they let her have died on Starkiller in the trash compactor.
There was too much hooplah over Phasma being female that they couldn't just write her off after one movie of doing nothing but berating Finn.

>>44379193
no

>>44381020
Yep

>>44381020
let the purist bitch and moan over which non canon game he likes better.

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>>44380985
>but that's really all he has going for him in the original trilogy.

>Carries himself with confidence
>Clearly in control of every situation he is in
>Vader specifically tells him to dial his methods the fuck back up
>Never speaks to Vader as an underling; "Yes Lord Vader" "No Lord Vader" "It will be done, Lord Vader"
>Talks to him as an equal, almost in a condescending manner
>Almost but not entirely makes demands of him when talking about freezing Solo, very aggressive towards the man who can choke people with his mind through Skype calls
>The only bounty hunter smart enough to guess what Solo's strategy was and follow him to Bespin
>Did his fucking job
>Got fucking paid
>Had one bad day when he got suckered by a Jedi

None of this is EU, it's all in the films.

Stop acting like Boba has coasted all of these years on his design alone; if he had been another snivelling, grovelling minion he would have been forgotten.

Boba is a professional and everything about him speaks of it.

>>44380985
>Phasma hasn't done anything and it would be a damn shame if they let her have died on Starkiller in the trash compactor
They already confirmed Phasma for VIII though. You didn't hear?

>>44381090

He wasn't in control when Leia (in disguise) pulled a Thermal Detonator on Jabba. He was, however, ready for action by whipping out his blaster pistol, rather than cowering like everyone else. And then complementing her on her gutsy move to get paid with a nod.

He's just a neat-looking guy who is represented simply and not very much, but what we do see shows us a guy who produces results.

>>44380490
It might not have to be Luke or the resistance she has ties to. Apparently there are three or four different factions that consider themselves heir to the Empire.

>>44375591
Only problem with the FFG dice is you should consider a Triumph two successes and a Despair two failures. Otherwise adding a Boost is always superior to upgrading a die.

>>44381204

Maybe we'll see a New Republic/Imperial Remnant team-up to help repel the First Order. Though it's also likely some of those Imperial Remnants will want to join up with the FO, banking on them as the winning team.

>>44381204
I do not remember any point in the movie where it was said that there are multiple factions that consider themselves heir to the empire.

>>44381204
>heir to the Empire
Don't get my hopes up like this, Anon. Losing Mara and Pellaeon was painful enough the first time around.

>>44381236
Not mentioned in the movie at all. In Before the Awakening, the novel that leads up to TFA.

How hard would it be for an OJO (pre-CW) Jedi knight to be a functional alcoholic, presuming he keeps it under control while he's at the temple?

>>44381208
While adding more dice does increase your odds of success/failure, the game system is built around the bonus effects, and so upping the success/failure from Despair/Triumph which are already guaranteed to change the outcome of the roll due to their bonus effects is way too much. And depending on the situation, upgrading will be the better option as it grants an increased chance of Advantage/Triumph which is used for item qualities/crits in combat, and in other rolls where success just impacts the time it takes to do things and advantage is what gives you extra useful information.

Not to mention making Triumphs worth more success makes talents like Knowledge Specialization generally less useful since you're already less likely to fail.

>>44381339
Oh man I completely forgot about that. Is it any good, Anon?
Might have some free time to read.

>>44381339
>let's just hide all the setting information outside of the movies
oh I hate this

>>44381442

Yeah, it's a bad play. Should have been handled better. Also something I felt the movie was a little weak on; there's a whole lot of jargon at can kind of put you off. Like, did they even mention the name Tatooine in A New Hope (movie release)?

>>44381442
>oh I hate this

You fucking asked for it

>OH PLEASE MY DISNEY OVERLORDS GET RID OF THIS SHITTY EU
>done
>NOW PLEASE DON'T MAKE THE NEW EU AS SHITTY AS THE OLD
>nah

This is what you and everyone fucking gets for selling out to Disney and praising the EU wipe

This is what you fucking get

>>44381362
I don't think the order would care that much. Hell, just don't assing him to work with Politicians and Leaders unless they like to party

>>44381495
Yes let it fill you!

>>44381495

Anon... nobody here really had any authority over that decision. There wasn't like a vote or anything. Regardless of whatever any fans asked for, the decision is entirely out of their hands.

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>>44381495
I'm not surprised.
I knew it was coming.

But I didn't ask for it.

>>44381395
No idea. That's just what I've been told by multiple people.

>>44381481
>>44381442
I hate to say it, but TFA really could have used a Lucas-style infodump conversation to explain the politics of the New Republic and the First Order and that the NR moved its capital off of Coruscant because that's the planet everyone thought had been blown up.

>>44381583

There should have been a little less action and just a little more exposition, I agree. Maybe we'll get a director's cut that's got some more of that.

>>44381608
JJAbrams won't be directing VIII so hopefully we'll get a movie with more exposition this time around.

>>44377671
Rey isn't a sue, she's a Tumblr heroine, which is even worse.

Heroines created to appeal to Tumblr are specifically forbidden from ever failing at anything or facing a serious challenge. Otherwise landwhales bitch about them being a "fake action girl".

>>44381442
>>44381495
>>44381583
>>44381608
>>44381642
Lack of a bunch of exposition was to make it closer to A New Hope than Phantom Menace. Essentially just dropping you into the thick of it. And while people here actually care about the background information and what happened in the 30 year gap, most movie-goers don't give a shit and do want what ANH/TFA gave, which was minimal information to keep the film from dragging on stuff they don't care about. Episode VIII might give more information than just the necessities since Disney was just trying to play it safe with Episode VII, but they also might not, since again, not everybody cares and the people that do are usually more likely to go grab the books/whatever that fill the gaps.

>>44381481
It wasn't. It wasn't given the name until later on. All we get from A New Hope was Luke saying it's the furthest planet from the center of the galaxy.

>>44381827
Except doing that just highlights the fact that nobody involved in the writing or development process payed any attention whatsoever to why and how ANH was set up the way it was. It didn't have a lot of exposition and infodumps because it didn't need them. The movie didn't need to explain what the political situation in the galaxy was, because we know there's an evil empire and a rebellion against it. That's extremely easy to grasp and understand, and moviegoers get it intuitively. TFA has a weird non-intuitive political situation that's not immediately familiar to new viewers or longtime fans, and only makes sense to people who actively seek out external sources. It's shitty writing that leads to a lot of confusion and questions that most viewers don't get answers to.

>>44381827
>It wasn't. It wasn't given the name until later on. All we get from A New Hope was Luke saying it's the furthest planet from the center of the galaxy.

And in this movie, we're told a whole bunch of planet names. It can gum up your immersion a bit, what was wrong with Skyrim's shitty intro sequence unless you're an Elder Scrolls lore buff.

Really, they should have cut some of those names from the dialogue and just explicitly stated their reasons for going where they were going.

>>44381900
but anon, it's really important that everyone understand that the desert planet is Jakku. Jakku Jakku Jakku.

...wait, you actually want more information about the planet? uhhh.... there's a crashed Star Destroyer! isn't that cool! and people trade garbage for food for some reason! Did we mention that the planet is named Jakku?

The political climate of the ST is reminding me of Gundam 0079. If done well this might be my favorite era.

>>44381948
It's more like 0083, Zeta, or CCA.

>>44381894
>It's shitty writing that leads to a lot of confusion and questions that most viewers don't get answers to.
Again. It's shitty writing, for US. The people who care. That's not to say it still isn't shitty writing, but the average person doesn't care about the finer details and the information provided in the film is more than enough for the majority of people seeing the film. So while we may be confused from the film because we question why stuff is happening, most people aren't confused because they don't question the finer points. Everything, as presented, is fine for the general populace. They definitely should work on hitting a better balance for the bigger fans, but the average person isn't bothering themselves over confusion that isn't happening for them.

>>44381986
I mean that Gundam continuity as a whole, but yes.

>>44382014
>that Gundam continuity as a whole
so you mean UC

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>>44378889
...
I think you mean "Fortunate Son", by Credence Clearwater Revival. You nerf-herder.

>>44382027
It's a /tv/ may-may

>>44382005
I think they figure the bigger fans will crack into the novels and such. I know I have, and the information has stuck with me. I re-watched the movie with no problems after. You never realize how good we had it knowing everything before. Now we're all in the same boat pretty much.

>>44382027
>missing the joke this hard

>>44381945

It's a knife's edge you have to walk. Too much, and people stop paying attention. Too little, and we might be missing some pieces. You've got to cut down jargon to bare minimum, what's pertinent to the plot and what's pertinent to their situations and character.

>>44382051

It's a meme to call a song by the lyrics rather than it's title?

>>44382024
Yes, sorry. I need to get around to marathoning everything in the UC timeline again, it's been a while.

>>44379308
Well, what so ya want? Action, AU, romance, original story, existing universe? Strong pornography?

>>44382114
For that particular song, yes.

>>44382157

Why?

>>44382162
Why any meme?

>>44382162
1. Because it's a common mistake due to the fact that "it ain't me" is the only line most people know
2. Because it triggers autists
3. In this particular case it allows for a clever substitution of the word "me" with "sheev," which is a meme in itself. This allows for the joke to operate on multiple levels.

>>44382213
I guess you could say it's a fortunate pun.

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>>44382226

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>>44372505
Since the Firespray was supposed to be a police ship, I'd say it's more the Blues Brothers car.

The Delorean is probably an HWK-290. Nobody wanted it when it first came out, but then after a celebrity boost it became popular after they stopped making them.

>>44372536
Battlefront is a great game with a very steep curve towards player level because you unlock the best guns. Many of the guns between start and best are almost no different, including a few that the description says is better in some ways and worse in others yet in the game they have the exact same stats.

It's really, REALLY paper thin; there's only a few modes and planets.

But...it looks fucking amazing, and is pretty fun.

Good at $40 with a season pass, but at $60 plus a $30 for that season pass? Fuck no.

>>44377229
He'd need a Ren name, that'd be his real one.

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>>44382248

I don't get how the HWk-290 is billed as shitty shitty ship, when it was actually high priced armored courier.

I mean really, from a name like Moldy Crow, you get the idea its a rust bucket piece of shit. But the ship itself is supposed to better than a 2400.

What the fuck? Is it just marketing and anti-marketing colliding against it?

>>44381495
Nobody. Nobody that wasn't literally Disney had any say in what's going to happen you goddamn turd. Not even George Lucas, not even if he cared.

>>44377250
Installing Battlefront.
Got two TIE/fo, Falcon, and Outrider.

Enough to crush the Rebel scum, and to play as them too.

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>>44379430
Why do so many people say that Daisy's ugly? I'm not saying that she's an icon of supreme beauty, but I thought she's quite cute, wouldn't you say?

>>44382409

From what I gather, release was kind of a dud, not a lot of interested buyers in their target market. The Rebellion added a renewed interest in a small courier ship that could ferry around agents, but it never had the sales the YT series had.

REY

IMAGINE YOURSELF

IN A FROZEN FOREST

>>44382493
Because you're on 4chan, land of the pointy knees will not bang

>>44382114
>>44382213

thats a stupid joke

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>>44382409
>Comparing the HWK-290 to YT-2400
Isn't the YT-2400 a light freighter with room for living quarters and such, while the HWK is just slightly larger than a Y-wing?

>>44382519
Fuck you I don't need to be reminded I wasted 8 hours on that shit.

>>44382409
The HWK was supposed to be an armored luxury ship, with a very small cargo hold. Something for those who deal in antiquities.

But it came out at a time when luxury goods weren't the hot sellers in the market, it was mass goods as nations geared themselves for coming war or at the very least trade disputes.

It was a highly niche market and didn't sell enough to justify itself.

>>44381827
>Lack of a bunch of exposition was to make it closer to A New Hope than Phantom Menace.
I guess, but it's closer to Revenge of the Sith than either of those.

>>44382493
People love being contrarians. The toxic environment of 4chan is the apex of this kind of faggotry, of course. It's the reason I avoid /tv/, all the negativity and bitching surrounding TFA just makes me sad. How dare anyone enjoy anything anymore in their free time.

>>44382533
>land of the pointy knees will not bang
kek

>>44382493
She's QT, but not OMGKawaiiDESUDESU~ and doesn't appeal to any specific fetish like "dom" or "tall" like Phasma does.

>>44382493
She's kind of cute, but certain pictures and faces she makes (ones that usually get posted on /tv/ in particular) make her look fairly unattractive. Particularly ones in which she looks like she has pitch-black eyes or when her mouth is gaping wide like she's about to eat a baby.

>>44382665

>not wanting a qt who was pitch-black eyes and eats babies

>>44382615
What's the rebel equivalent of the TIE Advanced in X-Wing?

>>44382684

*has

Fuck my typing.

>>44379308

I know there is an anon apparently working on a series about a Kel Dor Lestrade-esque character? I can dig up the pdf I saved if you want.

>>44382665
>pitch black eyes

Got any pics? I'm curious now.

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Whats a good ship for a group of rebel padawans, and Jedi Master Dude Lebowski?

>>44382808
Cargo ship, Firefly class.

>>44382808
I feel like a midbulk freighter of some sort would be best.
maybe a heavy scout or even light corvette

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>>44382808
>>44382856
>>44382873

I forgot to mention, during the OJO era - rebels from the establishment

>Got two A-Wings for christmas
PTL all day motherfucker

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>>44382906

Shara Bey A-Wing pilot card when?

>>44382808
How big of a group of padawans are we talking?

So my brother got me the new X-Wing starter set for Christmas, and it looks pretty fun. Could someone give me the lowdown on how the sides play? Because I tried going by aesthetics, and I'm still town between Rebellion's sexy X-wings, Y-wings, and YT-1300; and the Empire's TIESTIESTIES plus the tacit hope of getting the Upsilon-class shuttle in a later wave.

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>>44382950

4, each of them are basically "padawan discipline cases" with all the classic signs of poor jedi behaviour

>one wants to study jedi wars
>another thinks his twi'lek classmate is cute, keeps drawing hearts in his datapad, or reading romance holobooks
>one is too concerned with ships
>another thinks robes are shit, wants to be a smuggler

>>44382937

Rebellion Veterans hopefully.

FFG plz.

>>44382897
yeah, I remember from last thread
gonna take a trip over to the wook and come back with some recommendations

>>44382991
My first reaction is a CR-90--good size, can be modified so your padawans aren't sitting ducks, and is maneuverable enough to be decent in a dangerous situation. That said, any of the good old YT burgerships would serve handily. Personally, my favorite party transport is the YG-4210.

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My buddy bought the classic X-Wing starter and I bought the TFA set. Yesterday he picked up the Falcon and TIE Advanced for us to play with. What should I get that would be a good counterpart to that? Decimator and... A-wing?

Truth be told I'd rather get the YT-2400 and a B-wing...

>>44383105
problem with a CR-90 is that you're gonna need a lot of crewers beyond the jedi to keep it flying

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>>44382994

I was thinking something big enough they can train in, small enough to be a hotrod, big enough to smuggle in, and have lots of room to customize.

Also regardless of what it is, its old as dirt, with a shitton of "personality" (quirks) and something to give any kinda mechanic a headache (or a crush). Something the pilot is going to swoon over right out of the gate, and the rest of the class is going to go "what a piece of junk!"

They also have to buy something with 20k in credits (most likely a quarter of its MSRP), and as a first test, one of them will likely try force powers when the ship-dealer laughs in their face.

Assuming that doesn't work - ship-dealer will offer them a deal - you can have this shitty rustpile, heres the parts to get it working, and ill sell it for 20k on the proviso you deliver this crate of "power converters" (probably something illegal) to planet in somewhere-far-from-here system.

all part of a pre-negotiated lesson from Master Dude, who set the whole thing up, as a problem-solving exercise, and see how said padawans solve it - if one of them mind-tricks the guy, no harm done, but it does tell said master what hes working with - the ship is of course already paid for

and yes, that means Master Dude is getting padawans to smuggle shit against the law - its actually medical supplies

>>44383105
>YG-4210

Thats definately on my list, because I love that ship - old as dirt, still going strong

>>44383171
I agree with the other anon a YG-4210 is great.
if you want something REALLY weird and fucky, I could come up with something unique for y'all

Hello everyone. Happy holidays too all. Well, I started to learn how to play x-Wing the other day and it was fun as hell. It's was just a one vs one battle but none the less fun as fuck. I plan on buying the force awakens core set to get the cards need then selling off the ships and empire and rebel cards with them. Then I plan on getting most wanted and some scum and villainy ships. As I'm just starting out, what are some advantages and disadvantages to them?

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>>44383223

I was almost thinking an X-9 Crescent

Could you write up some stats for that? Would be good to have regardless

Also, does anyone have a better (deviantart) version of this pic? I have no idea who the individual artist is, and most FFG artists throw their work on dA

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Is the First Order 'bold?

>>44383303
That's cute.

>>44383278
Happy holidays to you too, fellow neckbeard. I'm going to bed, good thread.

>>44383300
I feel like it's a bit ancient to be still operating by the prequals-ish era, but I can take a stab at it, yeah (but in like half an hour, I've got a thing to do just at this second)

>>44383278

You could also just get the damage deck, tokens, and templates online and getting the scum ships you want.

Of course, selling them off might not be a bad idea either if you can get a good price for the individual components.

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>>44372463
Hope you all had a good Christmas

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>>44383340

I was thinking so too, but that pic is from Edge of The Empire - was very surprised to see it there.

And it looks like a somewhat more refurbished version

So, Wedge is obviously Mobius 1.
Luke is the Demon Lord of the Round Table.
Jaina is Blaze (interesting thought, does this mean Jag is Nagase?).
I propose that we officially declare Poe to be Talisman.

Just got Armada for Life Day, have no fucking clue what I'm doing. I'm not stumped often but I'm pretty stumped.

Any good tutorials online?

>>44383344
Yeah most guys at my LGS have everything but love picking up more ships and are willing to buy them for a fair price.

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>>44382248
>>44382409
>>44382593
Even it's history is that of the Delorean. Hell I'd build a time machine out of it.

>>44383397
I like to think there are many small companies that dig up old designs and modernize them.

Actually thats an idea for an campaign...

>>44382991
>one is too concerned with ships
Luke, Farlander, Jaina, all were aces in addition to being jedi.

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>>44383428

>when this baby hits 88 megalight...your gonna see some serious shit

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>>44382991
>padawan discipline cases
>they would fit right in with the NJO

Luke best master NA

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I do love the Helix, even if it seems a bit small for all the crew space described in Galaxy of Fear.

>>44383340
>>44383397
It's a Retro ship, the Hull shape is probably the only thing in common.

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>>44383439

Well, this is during the OJO - a Jedi shouldn't be too concerned with the physical

Being too interested in piloting ships, I gotta imagine, is a no-no from a Yoda perspective

Just got Ramada today... And I'm finding that extra rebel and imp fighter squadrons are all sold out. Fucking everywhere. What. The fuck.

Anyone know when shops might restock those? I wanted to go fighter heavy, but it seems like that's not an option at the moment.

>>44383507
Squadrons are listed as Shipping on FFG's website. What this means is in the coming week or two, they will be restocked in stores. I wanted to go almost entirely fighter, so I feel your pain.

Just got Armada too, and having trouble figuring it out. Have you played a game yet?

>>44383488
Tell that to Saesee Tiin, the Master and Council member who oversaw the Order's adoption of the Delta-7 Aethersprite, and personally modified a couple with more firepower.

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How much would an intact, fully loaded MTT (B1 transport version) go for on the black market? Even if only 1/2 or 1/3rd of the droids on board could be reactivated it's still a heavyily armored repulsorcraft with 112-118 Blaster carbines on board depending on the crew droids being armed or not.

>>44383488
Yoda had his own tiny-ass fighter made for him.

>>44383541

And see what happened to that whole order.

The Republic's Jedi kind of lost touch with what a Jedi needed to be.

>>44383561
Except we were discussing if loving to fly is acceptable in the OJO.
We know for a fact it is in the NJO.
Saesee Tiin points towards it being okay in the OJO too.