Jumpchain CYOA Thread #628: Wet Witches and Magical Redheads Edition

>>44314425
first

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Delicious candy?

>>44314425
Oh look Red got into the Edition.

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>>44314502
>Oh look Red got into the Edition.
>mfw
Fuck it, getting drunk.

>>44314425
Leeeewwwwwd.

If I go to the god hand jump and take the god hand origin does that mean I have to pay another 750cp for THE God hand im confused on that

>>44314527
Now now no need to be upset. Just let your vanity take it in.

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>>44314527

>>44313797
I agree with you, good anon.

>>44314425
Best edition yet.

>>44313233
So is this covered under Song Science or are there more perks?

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We have a few Avenger/Marvel versions of jumps. But we lack the best one.

Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes

It had great animation and fresh amazing design for Wasp's costume. Thinking of doing it

So, we also lack one jump that I find would be interesting and only older people will remember it.

B.A.D jump.

To many, it's modern day folklore, to others it is simply tabloid headlines but to a select few it is the ultimate reality. Intergalactic aliens have arrived on Earth, now they move among us. Only one top secret elite group of trained professionals has the ability to detect these extraterrestrial beings. B.A.D.: The Bureau of Alien Detectors. Led by Squadron Leader Sergeant Ben Packer, military war hero. Special Agent Shane Sanderson, life science expert. Moose Trengganu, alien encounter survivor. Colin Marcus, computer specialist, and Casey Taylor, psychic communicator. Together, they have only one mission: To confront, control, and contain all alien encounters. Together they are B.A.D.: The Bureau of Alien Detectors

>>44314787
If you're goign to go that route, I'd suggest widening the scope to make it a Marvel Animated Universe jump.

>>44314787
how many jumps are you thinking of doing all at once anon

>>44314787
Finish your current two jumps before you start claiming more.

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>>44314815
More than you think but less than you would hope for

>>44314958
Honestly? I am okay with giving any of these, except for transistor, up to anyone else interested in them. If anything, any work I do might provide a head start for the next guy

>>44314966
Kind of hope you're doing less actually, since that'd mean you focus more on what you have and they'd be higher quality and come out faster.

>>44314983
You're better of not saying you're doing them and then working on them in secret until then then. Otherwise it's just going to cause arguments because other's claim people are poaching from you. Yes, even if you say now that you give permission.

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Tell me, /jc/ - what is it that sustains you? An internal energy of sorts? Electricity? Blood? Food, water, and air? An emotion, any emotion?

>>44315289
Spinach and Artichoke are foul.

Anyway I literally don't need to consume anything.

>>44313651
My personal take is that being a Master is better. You get a powerful Servant/Companion for the duration of the jump/chain and you don't risk unwilling suicide via Command Seal (which the jump notes _overrides_ all perks that would normally prevent Seal control) nor having to put points into IA to avoid being sent home if someone gibs your Master (who may be _much_ squishier than you depending on how many jumps you've already been through).

Of course other Jumpers will have their own personal take, so YMMV.

>>44315289
Assorted vitae-rich organics and dephlogisticated air.

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How do I deal with Fate/Stay levels of magical bullshit when I want to kill something dead? Like dead apostles and servants that some fluff I've read states 'can't die, ever, because.'

Does conventional magic reach a point to deal with this sort of thing? Or is there some perk or jump that will let me manipulate things at the conceptual level to make sure that something can die because I say it can die?

>>44315308
>Spinach and Artichoke are foul.
Git gud scrub, spinach and artichoke are divine in the hands of the right chef.

>>44315308
Popeye would be disappointed in you anon.

>>44315536
It depends.

You listed a couple of different types of enemies there, and each one could have a different answer. You'll need to be more specific.

>>44315564
Cooked spinach is utter shite. Clean, fresh, raw spinach is fantastic.

>>44315584
>Cooked spinach is utter shite

Clearly you haven't tried it in a pasta salad with bacon.

Where could I pick up some awesome poisons and/or skill making poisons?

>>44315565
Popeye can't do shit until he gets a jump.

>>44315289
Depends, most of the time an Aperture engine running off a dimensional tear, but when shit gets dicey I tend to switch to internal fusion/fission reactor pairs.

>>44315393
I went both Servant and Master in different jumps, I just gave the seals to my waifu. Would she abuse them? Hell yeah, but not to do anything bad so they get quickly exhausted on silly jokes.

>>44315536
SMITE has the perk Anathema. 80s Action Movies has the perk If It Bleeds. Banner Saga has the perk Blessing Of Stravhs. Horror Movie has Sometimes Dead Is Better. There are some others too.

>>44315642
If you have to hide it behind the bacon, that doesn't make it better. It just means bacon tastes good and has a strong flavor.

>>44315762
Yes but the spinach makes sure that the bacon actually has some nutritional value. Or at the very least it makes the bacon less unhealthy.

What's not to love about that?

>>44315536
Killing Servants is difficult, but not impossible. Biggest problem is how superior to ordinary humans they are and how bullshit Noble Phantasms are, but you're a jumper. You'll get to the point where you can crush their puny heads and figure out and counter their super special snowflake trick before they can use it eventually.

Now, killing Heroic Spirits is, far as most people are concerned, impossible. You'd need to reach a super special locked away afterlife called The Throne of Heroes. Doing so is almost guaranteed to get the planet and the collective will of humanity to try and murder you because of the type of bullshit you'd need to sling around in order to do that.

Then, you need to deal with every single possible Servant at their absolute best trying to kill you because of what you just did. And it's not just proper heroes. You'll probably have the anti-heroes and good ol' monsters that are kept there just in case joining the fray. That's already effectively impossible for most people. If any Counter-Guardian is at any point involved, you're back to the first issue with the planet and whole of humanity wanting you dead, if you somehow evaded their notice.


Dead Apostles are, on the whole, way easier to put down. Most are "ordinary" wizard vampires. Gonna need to get a bit more specific to figure out what you're worried about.

>>44315762
>hiding it behind bacon
>implying implications

Spinach and bacon work together, plebeian.

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>>44314527
Mind if I bother you with a question about Macross?

What do I have to buy to import a mech and combine it with a VF-27 Lucifer?

Is "Power of Culture" enough? Or, do I need to buy "Bring Your Own Mech" + "By Fire, Be Cleansed" + "Power of Culture"?

Also, if I combine a mech with the VF-27 do I get it's signature beam cannon too?

>>44315735
Fists of Judgment from Fallen London beats all of 'em out, since most supernaturals in Type-Moon are by definition things outside the normal order of reality.

The exceptions being Arcuied, maybe the Divine Spirits and the TYPEs, and you really shouldn'y try to pick a fistfight with those anyway.

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Tell me Jumpers, how much of this have you come to fill throughout your travels?

>>44315790
>>44315584
>>44315536

Well, right now I'm going through a wiki describing the twenty-seven dead apostle ancestors, and things like 'conceptual weapons' which override natural laws.

I'm trying to figure out if things like the vampires and true ancestors here are just really powerful and can be brought down by a jumper through conventional means, or if I need some kind of reality-rewriting post-spark super-magic to overcome plot armor.

>>44315880
You need to do "Bring Your Own Mech" + "By Fire, Be Cleansed" + "Power of Culture", sadly. But there are arguably benefits from it, like getting its Fold Quartz Generator and the tech inside of it, like its signature beam cannon as well. Along with whatever else your mech is buffing it with.

You're paying a lot for the bells and whistles, but as a result you're arguably getting a rather high boost as a result. I daresay you could do some SERIOUS damage with it.

>>44316025
Dead Apostle Ancestors are a bit different. Some of them aren't even Dead Apostles, one is Arcuid's half True Ancestor sister, and the rest are just Dead Apostles, but they've done magic bullshit to boost themselves to ridiculous heights. They're more advanced than your run of the mill Dead Apostle.

>>44316006
I have absolutely no idea.

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>>44315536
As a jumper you are an out-of-context problem, which gives you access to a whole host of options.

There are plenty of anti-magic stuff available, and something like D&D antimagic fields can definitley mess up a Nasuverse Mage's day. Hell, anti-summoning stuff might work really well too, as that's exactly what Servants are.

Try coming at the problem from an oblique angle, because fighting a Nasuverse dude with Nasuverse stuff won't end well if you're going up against Gilgamesh or other OP people.

Don't fight them like they want you to.

Oh! Forced teleportation and high energy weapons would serve you well too.

>>44316045
So what's the cost of that?

>>44316025
When it comes to Dead Apostles for the most part it's you picking a fight rather than them hunting you down. It's like people who just decide one day out of the blue that they need to go to Africa and shoot a lion for their new handbag.

>>44315991
Why not prove your the manliest punch out the ultimate of mercury and steal the fuckers lunch money I don't care if you think he didn't "do" anything shouldn't have been looking smug as shitty with his fuck in crystals

>>44315289
Standard form: A very small amount of very simple nutrients, Baby food: Blood of your enemies flavour

Oh fuck, oh fuck, oh sweet fuck they're closing in the weasel bastards form: Dust/Power from a star

Why do I have two forms? Because being a broken lord would drain my reserves of miricle machines and being a unimaginable HUMAN mutant is fukken sweet, eat it physics

>>44316025
The 27 Dead Apostle Ancestors are this league of big bads. You're better off not even acknowledging most of them, 'cause they ain't gonna do shit to you as long as you don't forcefully insert yourself into the plot of Tsukihime. Most regular Dead Apostles are just a swing of a holy artifact and bam, dead for real.

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Just dropping this here for reference.
This is the Terminus Est.
(Bring Flamers)

How did you deal with the super chaos ship from LOT jumpers?
(Not including the Phase Iron/Tzeentch Ship trick.)

>>44316121
What if you are a Dead Apostle though? These guys might become more of your problem.

>>44316083
350CP overall. Which more less grabs you well over double that in VP (Fold Quartz Unit, Cybernetic Uplink, Improved Generator, minor things), it's just that as a result you're detracting from what you COULD buy in the main section.

So the question is, is that worth the trade-off?

>>44316129
Terminus Est was actually the thing I fought. As for how I dealt with it? I moved a lot faster, hit it with a lot of plasma lances on strafing runs, and then Elsewhere Coil'd out of the way of the last attack it got off before the Nova Cannon hit.

They seemed to like the Warp a lot, so I sent them /back/ there.

>>44316136
Most Dead Apostles are not in the business of hunting other Dead Apostles.

>>44316177
Not so much hunting as "having to be involved with"

>>44316129
Well, ignoring the trick you just stated
I took the Tzneech ship.

Lances, lots of lances, guided torpedoes, more lances, carrier capablilities, HUGE lances, and the ability to dart like a butterfly thanks to beefed up engines. Engaged in a deadly void dance, eventually managing to tear them apart with high-energy beams (a LOT of them), and constant bomber harassment

>>44316129
I took the idiot Khorne one. And I beat it by being faster and smarter. All that shit that Khorne hates.

>>44316136
If your a dead apostle then you would have more trouble with the church than the 27 Dead Apostle Ancestors.

>>44316190
Even then, a large majority of the Dead Apostles don't interact with one another when they don't have to. You get one or two problem cases that are bit too human, one or two that keep up the masquerade, and that's pretty much it.

Heck no one wants to bother with ORT or Primate Murder.

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>>44316129
Eating it.
Tyranids a shit. It's ME who chaos should view as a "competing predator".

>>44316267
Bad knockoff.

>>44316267
I considered eating the Brethren Moons a fair bit ago.

You're making my stomach turn a bit.

Good job.

>>44316316
The Tyranids don't really have anything special honestly. They're not magic. They're not warp monsters. Their individual cells don't eat back. As far as super adaptive hive races go, they're actually fairly benign meals.

>>44316006
Well, uh, there's some stuff I wouldn't fill out just because I have no use for those roles, but otherwise most of it.

>>44316345
It's weird how with two jumps you can theoretically beat the nids at their own game

>>44316486
Meh, not too surprising. Tyranids have never been the only eat 'em race in fiction, and other ones are bound to be better at it in some aspect.

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>>44316045
I'm totally cool with the price, it'll be well worth it.

This jump is right after Ace Combat in my "I'm a Pilot" arc, so upgrading my machine is always welcome.

Have a pilot song, sung by some former fighter jocks, about my favorite kind of move.

Because missiles are for the weak.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQAmvKMGUko

Long Live Belka

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So how's your day to day?

>>44316529
Belka is weak.

>>44316345
Ah, it's not the 'Nids, they go well with some Xenothium and a nice slow bake.

But, uh. He talked about eating the chaos ship, when the context put the Terminus Est in mind. I think you can figure it out from there.

>>44316536
>tfw Saint Young Men won't come to the US because of conservatives and other religious crazies.
Sometimes I hate humanity.

>>44316267
You...do realise you're literally eating shit right?

Just.

Just wanted to make sure we're on the same page here.

>>44316486
>two jumps

Wut?

>>44316581
Technically that happens whenever you eat anything whole.

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>>44316161
I'd think so, the cost comes from a pool of points that we're forced to ration like a starving castaway because of all the options we have.

There is just so much to buy before even getting to the plane customization table that we have to be really choosy about what we buy.

>>44316588
Which is why civilised people clean out the entrails before roasting the pig or whatever, duh. C'mon, just because you want to eat stuff doesn't mean you're obliged to eat all of it.

>>44316611
But shrimp tho

>>44316581
I'm guessing Prototype and Zerg.

>>44316611
Cooking can damage/destroy DNA, so you're better off making sushi/sashimi from something you want to eat.

>>44316640
Twist tail left, twist tail right, use tail to pull out entrails. How have you been eating them?

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>>44316605
>I'd think so, the cost comes from a pool of points that we're forced to ration like a starving castaway because of all the options we have.
Isn't choice wonderful?

>>44316677
Many pre-shelled shrimp, especially that you find in a restaurant, don't have the intestine removed.

>>44316669
Some people are eating for the taste and not the incredible genetic powers, you know.

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>>44316129
I fought the Iron Blood, and I went with Necrons as my faction. Have a writeup.

The Iron Blood was truely a sight to behold, and the Light of Terra charged up to meet it. The Chaos vessel turned, it's great prow
pointing dead on at the Light. Still, the Light of Terra did not falter, and soon the two titans were closing fast. As they neared
each other, the Iron Blood's engines spat torrents of fire as they ignited in full. A spread of torpedoes was launched as an
afterthought, as the mighty bulk of the warp-touched ship bore down upon the Light. The might spear of the Iron Blood, tempered in
the blood of countless vessels and ever thirsting for more hit nothing as the Light flickered out of step with reality, before the
first torpedo could land. The Iron Blood's reckless charge carried it through and past the Light; too late it realized it's mistake.
It had armor tens of meters thick, empowered by the boundless bloodthirst of Khrone, but then it met a caged star. Vulnerable
engines met face first with a colum of starfire, and the vessel of blood and hate screamed. It shuddered as nuclear fire gutted it's
propulsion; it's only means of traveling the void slagged beyond repair.

>>44316699
Then stick to bog standard animals and not super monsters and sapients. It's unethical.

>>44316645
I dimly recall something about the Zerg being basically shoddy knockoffs of the 'nids, and I'm pretty sure the 'nids' whole mutation gimmick would include powerful immune systems given how thorough their infestations are.

I was wondering if Biomega was one of them, actually.

>>44316677
>inb4 on the barbie

>>44316669
Not cooking can leave in bacteria and presents a fairly bland flavour sans sauce-and even if you're immune to diseases you gotta admit it's pretty damn gross. At the very least you should clean it off before serving.

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>>44316742
Not him, but I don't remember ever bringing ethics into the equation.

Just good taste.

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>>44316730
Part 2

The Inertialess Drive kicked in, and coupled with it's
overcharged Sulik Engines, the vast bulk of the Light of Terra swung round' gracefully. 18 Macrocannon batteries roared their fury,
and with a swift turn, their siblings spoke as well. The hellish torpedoes finally came back around and were reinforced by a freshly
launched wave of the same. Hellfire Missiles launched to meet them, their aims honed to a miraculous degree. Guided by the duet of
Logis Targeter and Gitfinda, each fell torpedo was intercepted with pinpoint accuracy. The Light answered the Iron Blood's spread in
kind, and torpedoes, Lascannons, Missiles, and one massive cannon unleashed their firepower at once. Under the barrage, layer upon
layer of armor and superstructure was peeled away, until the burning brass heart of the mighty vessel was exposed. With a feather
touch at the helm, the Light drifted back, and the Nova Cannon rose. The deck trembled underfoot as a shell the size of a small
house accelerated to blinding speed, and the heart of the Iron Blood howled in rage. With a flash of un-light the shell struck home,
and as the Iron Blood became violently undone, the echoing peals of rage cut off.

>>44316745
Starcraft was originally supposed to be a 40k RTS, so yes, the Zerg are basically 'nids.

Protoss are basically Eldar.

and Terrans... that should be easy.

>>44316745
Tyranids don't actively mutate as individuals. They have to have a Norn Queen pick up the DNA, decide she wants to use it, design new Tyranid designs using it, and them give birth to them. They're very conservative about doing it too. It's a much slower process than with Zerg.
>>44316745
Gross maybe, but better than losing the benefit you were going for.

>>44316781
>and Terrans... that should be easy.

Fucking orks

>>44316742
Okay, you're half-right. Killing for food when you don't need to is shit.

But if some crazy monster decides to kill me even though we're both perfectly capable of communicating and working out our issues calmly and reasonably, and it doesn't back down when I try to talk, several fucking times, I will murder it and I will take it home and cook it and eat it gladly. End of story.

>>44316645

Possibly Prototype and Worm (Queen Administrator).

Or Worm (Thanatos), assuming you get QA and Panacea's abilities and not variants.

Or Generic Virtual World (or other power-theft provider) and then harvest them. Panacea can create synapse creatures.

Perhaps Asura's Wrath and Panacea. Make them a race capable of generating Mantra, using mostly-biological equivalents to Mantra cybernetics and transmitters. It'd arouse the Gohma something fierce, but all you need a planet for is biomass, so fuck 'em.

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>>44316781
That's fair, although I can't help but notice Terrans and Protoss seem substantially weaker than their 40K equivalents, at least fluffwise.

>>44316789
1. Huh. The more you know.

2. Well, there's more to life than minmaxing all your stats. I don't like eating my greens IRL, I see no reason to eat all of the vampire/dragon/giant/alien/spirit during my multiversal travels. The Fallen Child life ain't for me.

>>44316929
Well no shit.

And then with Legacy of the Void the power levels got fucked up again because of the Xel'Naga, and it's STILL not clear how strong they are.

RIP Protoss and Zerg routes for having to figure out that shit.

>>44316955
Zerg route was released duder.

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>>44316529
>long live belka
>not importing true belkan firepower
You are no son of Belka.

Name: Amelia Sadol
Age: 20
Location: Seattle
Origin: Prisoner
Gender: Female

-Conduit Type-
Electrokinesis
Concrete

-Perks-
Regen (Free)
Analytics (-150CP)
Extra Power (-300CP)
Toggle (-300CP)

-Items-
Biocapacitor (Free)
Bioconverter (-200CP)
Spas-12 Shotgun (-200CP)
Tracking System (-100CP)
Hypervisor (-100CP)
Combat Stims (-100CP)
Laptop (-100CP)

-Drawbacks-
Greenlit (+300CP)
Remnant (+300CP)

-Companions-
The Boss (SR)
The Boss (MGS)
Caim
Venom Snake

So, with the main plots of all the games done with, I decide to become the main villain. With the gangs in the city already angry at me, and an "unofficial" remnant of the D.U.P. after me, I decide to start by making my own gang.

With my various metal gear tech, a couple stolen weapons, and the manufacturing facilities of the FOB offshore, I quickly outfit the basic thugs with laser weaponry from SR, which allows them to pretty much run roughshod over the competition. I also turn lucky thug into a MGS cyborg using Nanomaster.

By year 5, I'd pretty much become the lord of crime on the West Coast. It was about this time that Delsin Rowe and friends started fucing with my operations.

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>>44316967
You have good taste, but I prefer the ADA-01 Adler instead. Quad 30mm autocannons and Burst Missiles trump the TLS any day.

>>44316961
Probably means if it gets an update. Don't know if the guy who made the terran route is still around.

>>44317091
Doesn't matter, he didn't make Zerg.

>>44317091
They are. Go by BoredTears on the IRC if you want to pop on and yell at them.

>>44317030
Just, uh... just lettin' ya know... Extra power is 'pick a power one of the other conduit types can do, such as Concrete Wall, you can now do that with your power. You don't get a second conduit type.

>>44317134
Huh. So it does. Well, shit.

>>44317119
I'm responding to someone who's pointing out Zerg route exists, who pointed it out to someone who said good luck to Zerg and Protoss routes. I'm saying the first person was probably assuming it'd get an update and probably didn't need to be told that Zerg route exists by the second person.

>>44317131
Huh. Did not know that. Wonder if the two existing routes will be updated to take into account anything relevant from Legacy of the Void.

>>44317134
I thought it was you can take an extra conduit lower but you have to use the same charge source

>>44317201
It's not.

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>>44317045
I only had room for one image, but since we're posting Belka planes I've always had a soft spot for the ADFX-01...

>>44317217
>ADFX-01
Obviously the best plane in my opinion. Better looking as well than the shitty looking Falken.

>>44317201
The page you pick your conduit 'element' is labled Conduit Type. This is where you decide you're a video conduit or a concrete conduit. The descriptions have a list of powers - the feats that conduit type can do.

The wording of Extra Power actually references that.

You can take one power from a different Conduit type. Draws from same energy pool.

So using my own example by picking Concrete's wall power you could make walls with neon or smoke, but you don't get to use Concrete in addition to your Neon, or Smoke powers.

>>44317262
Ahh ok thank you

>>44317262
>Have Smoke
>Grab extra power
>Grab Wall
>Call yourself Smokescreen
>Make a living hiding shit for money

>>44316129
The Iron Blood.

Quite honestly, we outmaneuvered them and kept hitting them from longer range with our biggest guns. Rather significant sensor upgrades permitted targeting their weapons and engines. We took damage, oh yes did we take damage, but in the end we neutered that ship and it was left immobile in space.

Once it could not attack any longer, we targeted the engines and began concentrated bombardment with pyroil-augmented macrocannon batteries. Once we were satisfied we'd burned out the interior of the ship, we spent a day or two putting all the lance cannons through their paces, making sure they were in proper order and calibration, and conveniently melting the hollow armor to little more than slag.

There is always someone stronger, but sadly, they forgot this truth.

>>44317262
Hm, but, those aren't powers are they, they're attacks that people do with those powers. Also, I'm pretty sure that just means it draws from the same source of power.

>>44317328
Sorry, but that's what it is. The use of the word 'power' to describe the capabilities of the Conduit Types is misleading, true, but it's just a bit of unfortunate word choice. I was disappointed too when I learned of it back when I first made a build for inFAMOUS.

Drawing from the same source is further proof of it. You use Neon or Smoke to make the wall, not Concrete.

>>44317328
No, it's the individual abilities. This has come up plenty of times before, and when Quicksilver was still here he made a clarification on it (I'm not pulling him into the conversation needlessly, before anyone says it, he's the one who made the damn jump). It's a relic of inFamous being only the second jump ever made, and no one really knowing how to balance things at that point.

>>44317328
Are you really going to do this after the last time?

>>44317328
Just use the damn power machine in the jump. It's been years since Cole used it and science has advance so surely someone can make a better one now.

>>44317201
That's what everyone thought anon.

>>44317328
You know what, I'm just going to say this after Fate:

Finish the fucking jump you're named after before you try to make rulings on other people's jumps.

>>44317388
Pretty much this. I don't like it much either but it's just too old to change now. Best just not to take it.

>>44317388
It's been a year and I STILL haven't gotten around to changing that build.

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MACROSS (10)
--LOCATION--
SDF Macross
--IDENTITY--
Bridge Crew
Male, 23yo
--RACE--
Human
--SKILLS & ABILITIES--
•Serene Sinatra
•Basic Training
•Tactical Perspective
•Tacticool
•Eye Of The Tiger (900cp)
•Eye Of The Hawk (800cp)
•Conducting Czar (600cp)
•We're Going To Fight! (300cp)
--ITEMS & EQUIPMENT--
•Space Suit
•Officer's Manual
•2x Promotion (Commander) (200cp)
•Crisp Uniforms
•Scanning Computer (100cp)
•Tactician Of Circuitry (-50cp)
•Money (-100cp)
•Take To The Sky (-200cp)
--VERITECH--
•Basic Variable Fighter
-Extra Auto Cannons (1,050vp)
-Additional Thruster (1,000vp)
-Laser Weapons [900vp]
-Laser Emitter Pod [700vp]
-Flesh Of Vajra [0vp]
--DRAWBACKS--
•Rival (0cp)

My goal? Simply survive by being the best Commander aboard my ship I can be. When situation calls for I won't hesitate to step in the V-tech. I don't think I'd do it often, not that well trained in piloting but I can do a neat laser show. Which should give me range, and accuracy over my opponents. As lasers are faster and longer ranged, presumably. Overall I was happy not having to murder people up close for awhile. There's only so many ways you can kill a person with a lightsaber.

>>44317410
The DUP probably have at least one, given that the power transfer device used to give Cole the extra powers was the same as the one used to infuse the Vermaak 88. So the tech they used to infuse Augustine's powers into the DUP soldiers is probably descended from that. It might take some modifications if they've made their version more specialized, but it shouldn't be anything outside the reach of any decently tech savvy jumper.

>>44317427
What rulings!? Also, like i'm going to do what a Random Anon in the thread commands me to do.

>>44317385
Hmph, yeah, i'm going to have to switch it out for something or other.

>>44317410
>>44317477
I'd like to know where i can get Concrete as a power, considering it's Conduit is dead.

>>44317410
Speaking of power machines...

Any idea what Conduit powers evolve into?

We know that Cole's elec powers could eventually time travel but I guess thats off the table for us.

>>44317529
>considering it's Conduit is dead.
Necromancy is a hell of a thing.

So my nasuverse origin I rolled random and got spoon what do I with this ?

>>44317533
We have no idea how Cole got that strong and it certainly wasn't naturally, since even by Infamous 2 he was needing to eat those power cores to grow, and he was far from using time travel. For all we know it's some entirely unrelated piece of tech that allowed time travel.

>>44317477
Exactly. Also, letting people know it might be a bad idea to just use the one the DUP used as is, pretty sure it's mentioned somewhere that they're not afraid of the 'new' concrete conduits running amok because they can't charge themselves up, or have to keep getting the concrete power refreshed in some way. Just a warning, might not be accurate but it's better to be safe than sorry.

Use it as a base to develop your own, sure but unless you're taking Augustine with you (which I don't know if you can, does the jump mention if it's after the good or bad ending for Second Son?) you probably don't want to take the risk.

>>44317529
Well, there are a lot more conduits showing up in the time Second Son is set and the effects of Cole using the bomb thingy I forget the name of is wearing off. Also, a bunch of Conduits just got let out of Curdon Cay, you might find one there if Augustine is dead, which is only in the bad karma ending. Otherwise just break into wherever she's imprisoned.

>>44317563
That's stupid on so many levels.

>>44317563
Become t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m.

>>44317553
Too bad I don't have Necromancy! Though, hmm, are Magus in Fate capable of that?

>>44317575
I thought she died in both endings? But yeah, in the jump, Good karma ending for Second Son.

>>44317587
I know I really do but if anyone can make a weapon out of being a "spoon" I thought hey why not try /tg/

>>44317533
I think the official ruling is that they can grow in power, but not really in scope. That's because the link between electricity and time travel is so tenuous as to be conceptual, and leaves it far too open to abuse. We don't really know how Kessler got that strong - maybe multiple ray sphere exposures, maybe the Beast blasted him with something that should have killed him but gave him time travel instead.

Basically, think more along the lines of what Kessler could do in the boss fight rather than the sort of power growth/evolution that leads to time travel.

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>>44317529
>Also, like i'm going to do what a Random Anon in the thread commands me to do.
See >>44317427. Just because you're a namefag, it doesn't mean you have special privileges. It doesn't mean you can just claim anon's opinion is less than yours.

But hey, you gave yourself millions of points worth of shit for free with your Girugamesh waifu. So why would you listen to this?

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>>44317563
>origin is Spoon

It's a shame your Origin wasn't Chopsticks instead.

>>44317636
I remember it said ice would, for example, be like a walking ice age. Lots of flash freezing and environmental control.

>>44317563
>I am the cusp of my spoon
>Life is my handle and death is my cup
>I have tasted over a thousand dishes
>Unknown to hunger, nor known to fullness
>Have withstood strife to create many utensils
>Yet, those mouths will never taste anything
>So as I pray, unlimited spoon works.

Might as well...

>>44317626
Resurrection is True Magic, but raising zombies shouldn't be out of hand as long as it's your focus. Probably won't work for the machine though.

>>44317654
No, that was anons fanwanking that somehow conduit powers let you hack reality or conceptual bullshit.

>>44317646
You guys are getting silly and butthurt about this.

>>44317681
Nope, QS said that. Go archive digging if ya don't believe me.

Also how the fuck is creating a bunch of ice hacking reality or conceptual bullshit? Are you daft?

>>44317626
In the good ending she's just captured and her secrets are blown open to the world, bad ending she's killed.

>>44317654
One a local scale, yeah, that sort of thing makes sense, given a lot of time and maybe one of those 'keep getting better over time' perks. Expanding on the sheer power you can bring to bear is both supported by canon and makes sense. Saying your ability to control ice let you... I don't know, create a cold star or something ridiculous like that would be... well, ridiculous.

>>44317663
What you want to do is resurrect the guy that made the machine in the first place. That'd help you.

>>44317659
I was thinking you could put a dent in the enemy's attacks with an ability like that

>>44317707
Oh, I thought you meant bullshit like >>44317717 said. A literal 'I freeze the planet in an ice age' crap.

Disregard, I suck dick.

>>44317733
Just unleash a spoonful of your rage at them. Really give them a taste of your anger.

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>>44317663
Hmm, would a clone work? I should be able to find a vial of DNA somewhere.

>>44317685
Pic related.

>>44317717
Ok, cool. Plan break into a prison and absorb her power is go!

>>44317760
I wouldn't want to scoop up such a spoony origin I daresay I couldn't fork the bill

>>44317685
I dunno, I'm getting kinda tired of seeing this cycle repeat itself between them, but I can sympathize with the jumpmaker since at least the original Gilgamesh question was pretty outlandish. It's either the way he's asking it or something.

I don't really see the point of putting a trip up unless I have to upload something, but that's just me.

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>>44316929

How do I beat Saitama?

>>44318081
>not being Friends With Saitama

Why even bother?

>>44318081
There are a myriad of ways you can do so. But the question is:

Why do you want to?

>>44318081
Challenge him to a vidya you're really good at.

>>44318117
>>44318094
So I can Dark Bind his soul and gain power, of course

>>44318081
Pay his rent for a good amount of time.

Alternatively, help him regain his hair.

>>44318081
Waifu green hair.

>>44318117
I'm just going out on a limb here, and reasoning that this is for the same reason people wanted to beat up Scion and Gilgamesh in the past.

I'm going to posit even further that this question only arose because of the anime recently ending.

>>44318142
Because they're dicks?

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>>44318132
Hi Chara. Not gonna lie, then-I'm kinda rooting for him to smack you silly.

>>44318151
Oh no, a combination of >>44318132 and good ol' fashioned power fantasising.

>>44318132
So. Being boring and predictable?

Nevermind then.

>>44318142
>same reason people wanted to beat up Scion and Gilgamesh in the past.

Intents amounts of paranoia that their existence will lead to said big names targeting them?

Or that intense crushing feeling of sadness if they aren't the top dog?

>>44318172
But they are dicks. Good reason to beat them up.

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>>44318132

>>44318081
Play shogi with him. And play fair. Cheaters get punched into orbit.

>>44318081
Give him the ultimate hair growth formula.

>>44318174
Actually-yeah, that is more accurate than what I originally thought. Sure, let's go with that.

>>44318178
Hey, I'm not saying that ain't a reason for those two. Just that it was far from the most important one.

Saitama definitely isn't a dick, though.

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So how exactly is one supposed to recover from having all their deepest fears, secrets, and repressed desires laid bare by the very incarnation of everything they hate about themselves?

It seems like the kind of thing that would drive someone to drink themselves to sleep for the rest of their lives at the very least - especially once you're a late Jumper and you've done things no ordinary human would ever have the power to do.

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>>44318385
By having friends that support and understand you, of course.

>>44318385
By jumping Persona early.

I bet they didn't know that playing with some of my issues just set me on a path to embrace them, though. Don't poke the paranoid and controlling unless you WANT a yandere jumper.

>>44318385
Therapy no jutsu and punching themselves in the face. Metaphorically speaking. Also possibly literally speaking.

>>44317030
Swapped Extra Power for Focus.

I was on the East Coast, buying a certain device, when i heard news that Delsin had fucked up my operations in Portland, (Seriously, why would he bother going to Portland? I was only smuggling in parts for a project.)

I immediately left for Seattle, which I had turned into a veritable fortress, and which had propered under my rule. Predictably, Mr. Rowe soon turned up with friends.

Unfortunately for him, I had friends of my own. It seemed he and his compatriots were mainly trashing my small time operations, so I tasked The Boss (SR) with handling it while I left.

I soon arrived at my destination: Curdun Cay. The population had fallen a great amount since the D.U.P.'s days, but it sill housed a great many prisoners, including one Augustine Brooke.

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>>44318385
>>44318385
Hopefully you have companions that care about you and will help see you through your ordeal and help you work through your issues.

Alternatively, you can descend into denial and become some sort of eldritch being that can surgically remove those pesky emotions and morals that are causing you pain and repress everything else.

Look how that worked out for this dude

>>44314812
Why? When has that ever worked?

Animated universe is not one setting. You're better off doing a single series if you think you can.

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>>44318385
Well, that really depends on how many fears, secrets and repressed desires you have doesn't it? And just what, exactly, is the very incarnation of everything you hate about yourself?

There are certainly jumps with perks that help alleviate some of the symptoms. Evangelion. Soul Eater. Persona. Ar Tonelico. Winnie the Pooh and Sugar Bowl and Inside Out.

But if you truly hate yourself?

If you've truly done things the person you used to be could never ever forgive you for?

If you're utterly alone and nobody could possibly understand the scope of the choices you've had to make and the magnitude of what you've sacrificed?

If you've let down the people who stood at your side as friends and lovers and comrades to sink into depths unplummable by any line?

Sometimes you just have to accept that actions have consequences. That you've made mistakes that can't be undone. And all the willpower perks in the chain will only open the door to recovery; you're the one who has to choose to make amends.

But fuck that noise. Maybe you've seen atoms dance on the head of a pin and angels brought low by your word and will and demons split apart in the name of science-and you can just SNEER at the absurdity of it all because who are they to judge you?! They're nothing! Even your doppleganger's ultimately nothing but a single-universe caricature of your failings like all the other puppets you've broken and bowed to your whims or escaped from, it's all just meaningless babble when you know the secret names of gods and what purple sounds like, because in the end there is no consistency, no center to ground the widening gyre! The only constants are the entertainment of your Benefactress and your own choice! And you do what you can, because you must, because when everything changes-nothing does!

...

...not that we'd know from personal experience or anything!

>>44318494
Oh hush, you.

>>44318620
Don't know about Marvel, but it is in DCAU.

>>44318428
But nobody came.

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For those of you that went to Nanoha, what kind of Device did you buy or make, what does it look like,how has it evolved, and do you still use it?

>>44318994
I could only afford the shitty free one. So its look is irrelevant, and obviously no, nothing that weak was ever useful nor does it have any capacity to evolve or potential for future use.

>>44319026
You can totally buy one though, and on Mid Childa there is bound to be a whole mess of custom Device builders out and about.

Just pay someone heaps of money to build you your own custom order.

>>44318994
I made the mistake of making a decent device for primary use during the jump, and continually using those devices and upgrading them in order to design the next generation. I ended up integrating this into my Mother Box when I got it in DC, to make it very much unlike any other mother box that existed there.

I kept upgrading that particular one for a very long time, for more than a hundred jumps - thousands and thousands of years, especially since the Civ jump was part of it. I just thought it had a lot of personality and moxie. And considering it started as a mother box, I started calling it Moxie. I didn't realize it had become truly self-aware until around the time of the Worm jump.

Now she's sort of a holographic little sister whose body remains hidden in a pocket dimension, who is hyper and always wants to explore and see what new things the universe has to offer. Best companion ever.

>>44319026
Grab the Legacy Of Use perk from Smite, anon, and if you keep using it some day that cheap device you picked up for free will shake the pillars of the cosmos.

>>44319103
I said I could only afford. I didn't have the points left over to invest in a worthwhile device.

>>44319115
Not enough points there either.

>>44319117
Do you not believe in spending money in jumps for things you could get with CP, or something like that?

>>44319175
I don't really have money earning perks so I don't normally think about money.

>>44319026
>>44319117
I meant that once you land in the jump you can mosey on over to Mid Childa, search for a Decive shop, and put in a custom order with all the bells and whistles you could want.

Convert raw materials or sell some out of jump stuff to get enough local money to afford it, and you are golden.

>>44318473

It was quite easy to bust through their defenses, they had never prepared for a Conduit of my power and ability after all. I quickly located Miss Augustine, and, after taking a couple vials worth of her blood and sticking it safely in the warehouse, used the device I had acquired.

Shortly, we both had Concrete powers. I tested it out for a minuted, and made an exit to the outside, Satisfied with this power, I "acquired" Augustine, and left.

Arriving back in Seattle, I found a district burnt to the ground and about one hundred of my guys dead. Apparently, during an operation overseen by the Boss (SR), Delsin and a friend, the girl who lies to throw around lasers, had barged in.

During the ensuing firefight (Heh.), Delsin called in backup, and The Boss did the same after said backup arrived. Shortly, Caim, a very good swordsman, and his fire breathing dragon arrived alongside two of the best soldiers of their universe.

Safe to say, their opponents, a punk with ash themed powers, a girl who could sling lasers about, and some guy who could make hardlight holograms were sorta outmatched. The laser chick was taken out courtesy of a sniper bullet from Venom, and Delsin had to retreat after he had an arm cut off.

>>44318994
Pricing in nanoha is just such a clusterfuck that I built my own. invested in Device Meister, ontop of all my other engineering, weaponsmithing, enchanting and tinkering perks.

The device I built though, was just the beginning. Where it really came together is when I applied numerous jumps worth of preparation in Soul Eater. That's when I imported my AI Companion from Archer, and my Intelligent Device from Nanoha, for combination with a bunch of my other primary weapons. Since it's also a companion, I dont have to worry about it getting destroyed either.

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>>44318385
For me, Simple

>>44318428
This.

And

> Go to Sci Fi Setting
>Find Planet of Warlike Spider People
>Pic Related

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>>44319110
I has something similar happen, but I ended up with a Device that held a shard of my soul.

I got the Soul Spear upgrade and the 7th Holy Scripture boost (which gives it a sentient personality) Finally, I got the Monster's boosted capstone in God of War, so I can temporarily re-absorb the weapon for a power boost, and the weapon continues to grow in power as I explore.

I basically became Stark from Bleach.

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>>44315289
Ultimately, an internal S2 Organ. There are other energy sources, but I can shut all those down without dying.

>>44316129
I fought the Est myself. Mostly to make the galaxy a cleaner place.

My LoT ended up with excellent engines, very good point defense grid, and the Jovian nova cannon.
We hit it with some trivial stuff to bait it out, then fell back, dropping remotely-controlled torpedoes of regular and Cyclonic variety on the Est's projected path; our Cobra-class escort also deployed torps to support.
When it entered the kill zone, we activated the remote-controlled torp's, and while it was preoccupied with those incoming, came about and let loose with war shots from the Jovian.
Point defense and our escort dealt with its drones and fighters.

>>44317045
I had no real idea of the plane selection in Ace Combat so I went with the Nosferatu with a coffin system, but looking at that my immediate thought is "Does it come in black?".

>>44318994
Ended up with an Armed device with Cartridge, Autoguard and Additional Form.
Standby mode is a pair of rings; Active mode is a pair of gauntlets (figured that would match the close-combat focus of my Ancient/Modern Belkan dual systems) and the extra form is a shield mode.

>>44319193
We didn't see Delsin or his friends again until about 4 years later. By then, I'd became lord of all crime in the mid-west of the United States, and had risen up in rebellion against the government.

I was in my office that oversaw the city of Seattle, when looking up from paperwork, I saw an explosion at the front gate, and figures flooding into the streets. The army had somehow snuck an entire battalion of Conduits past the front lines and onto our doorstep.

The division(10,000) that was stationed there would have been able to handle them, but I decided to call in a couple we had training about a mile away while i was heading onto the roof.

There, i had a clear view of the battle going on in the street below, the flashes of light as Conduits let loose against my soldiers and their laser weaponry. I began charging my power to help, when Delsin appeared.

We chatted for a minute, he told me that his pal the hard-light hologram maker was distracting my companions for a moment. Then, the fight started. It was one of the harder ones i've had, but in the end, he was lying bloodless on the ground, and I was well fed. My companions handled the hologram guy by following his creations back to where he made them and killing him. The Conduit army was driven off, though at great cost in manpower.

I won the rebellion, and pretty much nothing else happened for the rest of the jump, and I left it carrying any, many vials of Conduit blood.

Sword and Sorcery Jump
By Worm_Anon
A Cruel World +100
The Nail That Sticks Up +200
roll'd3 3. Blood Stained Dunes
Drop-In
To truly live -50 discount for drop in
Lost and Forgotten-150 discounted for drop in
The making of myth -300
A Map of Long Lost Glories-300
Brothers Old and New-200: Monique
Brothers Old and New-300: Mother box
Monique
Drop-In
To truly live -50 discount for drop in
Call to Greatness-150 Discount Drop-In
The making of myth -300 Discount Drop-In

Mother box
Sorceress
One of the Wise free Sorceress
To Treat With Spirits-150 Discount Sorcerer/Sorceress
The Arcane Craft-150
Cast Aside This Vessel -300 Discount Sorcerer/Sorceress
An Occult Tome Free Sorcerer/Sorceress
The Eye of Set-300 Discount Sorcerer/Sorceress

#the plan:be Atlantis,I've got a small town from my mega man stage,
,a ship almost as big as an equatorial degree of circumference that can drop buildings from orbit, plus the stuff from age of ice to help tie it all together,but I can plan as well as
Xanatos and I can make a few craters where used to be city states when I need to get my point across. I've got a nation of wonders surrounded by a heptadecagram of unparalleled destructive force. Via the Gauss Turrets and monoliths.

>>44319870
>but I can plan as well as Xanatos
It's kind of sad that in a post full of ancient myths, powerful magics, nigh-inconceivable technology and things stranger still, this still stands out as the least believable thing.

>>44319930
Jumper me not me me,There's a perk for that.

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>>44318385
By not having any of those things that you mentioned to begin with. Some people just do not care.

>>44319946
Not him, but that still seems like the least believable thing considering Jumper You's questionable track record of decision making.

So prototype, if you go infected are you still contagious post jump?

>>44320014
Making a good plan To do something =/= choosing good things to plan to do that will not have adverse consequences should you Succeed, My jumper largely succeeds at stuff that brings terrible consequences Which he then makes up another plan In order to Mitigate..

>>44320035
>plan to do that will not have adverse consequences should you Succeed
No, see, part of making a successful scheme on the level of a Xanatos Gambit is that you have to be able to anticipate consequences, at least to some degree, because otherwise the whole plan fails at step two because step one was "blow up the sun" and step two was "set up a sustainable solar power plant."

>>44320073
Yes but if step three is move the earth to a new solar system after everyone else has dismantled their solar plants giving you a monopoly you're still Golden. Besides I usually use it Defensively anyway.

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>>44319668
looking at aircraft pics anons have been posting and going "meh"
sees yet another aircraft pic ready to go "meh" again
clicks pic
oooh come to papa

>"Does it come in black?"
why yes it does, pic-related

>>44320091
That really doesn't make any sense and I'm just even more convinced your Jumper has no idea what the hell they're doing.

Honestly, using it "defensively" is probably a better idea in your case than taking any initiative whatsoever with it.

>>44320026
Pretty sure it either says no or that you can control it.

>>44320136
Which is pretty much what I do anyway, Empires were trying to plot against mine so I recognize that And Countered their schemes. Besides when I do use it Offensively I'm intentionally vague Because I know I couldn't write something believable, jumper me is rash impulsive and usually blitz'd out of his mind on A mixture of spice And Nuke

>>44320168
>jumper me is rash impulsive and usually blitz'd out of his mind on A mixture of spice And Nuke

That's usually not a good xanatos gambit player.

>>44320185
It would explain a lot.

>>44320185
No it is not which is why I usually Play the "I can blow up the whole fucking planet don't mess with me" Card

>>44320168
Okay, so. Glad we've established he's basically the complete opposite of Xanatos, then. That was a confusing mental image.

>>44320210
>Okay, so. Glad we've established he's basically the complete opposite of Xanatos, then. That was a confusing mental image.

Well when I'm sober I am,And again I mainly use them defensively.Both of these Highs wear off quickly so it takes me A bit but if pre-cog says things Are getting serious I take a break for a bit

>>44318994
Made the LoT into an Unison Device after using the Zords Black Box item to make it count as a companion.

>>44320026
Your not even contagious during the jump.

>>44320331
Say, speaking of which, what other options do we have to convert the Light of Terra into a companion?

>>44320444
Off the top of my head that is the only way to do it without giving it a human form, Kancolle comes to mind as being the only other way I currently know of.

>>44320444
Give it a soul so it counts as a child/creation? That would also have the benefit of not costing CP to import and that it's always been and is presumably fine to continue being a giant space ship.

>>44320459
>Kancolle
>small c

>>44320444
Make an AI for it using something like the SupCom perk that I think lets you make Companion level AI? There might be an in-jump solution too... Fleshmetal does say that the ship itself will awaken as a living void dwelling creature capable of learning, so that might work all by itself. If it doesn't you can uplift its mind to make it one.

>>44320486
Your post then is the first time I've realized that was an abbreviation.

So in terms of difficulty, how would each fate grail war be rated?

I need to know how to survive or protect my waifu/husbando servant/master

>>44320531
Prototype>Strange Fake>Apocrypha>4th>5th is how I see it.
1st and 3rd are mostly unknown and it's up to the Jumper how hard they are for the most part as they'd need to make up most of the Servants and Masters, excluding the founders in 1st as well as Dual Saber and Avenger/Berserker in 3rd.

>>44320531
I think it goes, SF>Apo>Proto>5>4
Strange fake is bullshit with the True Servants, Gilgamesh, Enkidu, etc.
Apo has Karna, Achilles, Vlad the Impaler, etc. who are all high-tier
Proto has multiple people with EX shit
5th has better Servants all around when compared to the 4th, with Saber potentially having Avalon usable, Medusa having an amazing mount and Mystic Eyes, Caster being able to do some pretty amazing shit, but being limited by other people having Magic Resistance, Assassin is able to fight/potentially kill Saber without Avalon, and you can't use non-passive Noble Phantasm(or equivalents, but that's up to you) while fighting him, Heracles is bullshit durable, with him only becoming more dangerous the more you kill him, and he can regen his lives if he gets away, AND GILGAMESH IS STILL AROUND
4th has good Servants, but overall, the 5th is more dangerous.

Oh, and the earlier wars don't have much known about them, so I can't say.

>>44320137
>>44320362
The only note relating to being contagious/not is the bit at the end that you 'can' infect people but 99% mortality yadda yadda.

I see how you could take the 'can' part to make it something you control, but I was hoping the author had confirmed one way or another before assuming.

>>44320768
Not being infectious is canon. Then again it's a rather poor go at a prototype jump, so who knows?

Unfortunately it had already been made by the time I found Jumpchain.

So can Shiki and his Mystic Eyes of Death Perception or whatever they are called kill a servant?

Also, what exactly classifies as human peak for strength, speed, durability?

>>44320867
Fuck knows.

World Record Holders.

>>44320872
So Usain Bolt for speed. Whoever the fuck for strength... What about durability?

>>44320867
The eyes can (Depending on the Servant, as usual) but Shiki can't. He's too slow and unskilled to match any Servant.

Whose the current record holder for that stat? There you go.

>>44320900
Durability is just a vague estimate you need to make. There's not really any accurate gauge in series or out of it.

Would Like Riding A Bike and a few decades/centuries/thousand years be enough to learn how to apply weapon techniques to Deja-fu, or to apply Deja-fu techniques to weapon techniques?

If that one 300CP perk isn't enough does anyone know something that could help me learn to do this?

If it's impossible to do anything with Deja-Fu other than what's strictly listed I'll still take it, but I don't want to go on thinking I can learn to use it with weapons or magic punches or whatnot if it can't be done.

>>44320919
Oh, forgot to mention that Like Riding A Bike is from Sword Art Online, and Deja-Fu is from Wuxia.

>>44320919
Probably, if not there is a perk in Smite for channeling your abilities through a weapon. This added on would certainly let you.

>>44320960
That's what I use to do magic punches, unfortunately Deja-Fu mentions that while your strength carries over abilities do not.

I've slowly come to realize I want to rethink all my builds to be centered around a theme, what should I do as said theme and how would I change this build to suit it?

The first Jump, Pokemon:
Region: Kanto
Age: 15
Identity: Drop in
Starter: actual starter, Female Eevee, shiny (Named Lune)
Abilities: Freerunning, Blend in, Aura
Gear: HM Collection, 50K Pokebucks, Parachute, Wingsuit,
Rebreather, Med Kit, Motorcycle, Laptop, 3x Master Balls
Drawbacks: Marked, Damned

>>44320960
Actually... disregard me here >>44320987 that just might work. If I use Like Riding A Bike to try to learn to do the technique with a weapon, and then channel Deja-Fu through the weapon as well I may be able to attack through time with a weapon.

Thanks Anon!

Anyone else have any ideas that could help this little combo?

>>44320998
Given you named your Eevee Lune I'm assuming you evolve it into an Umbreon, so how about letting that affect your path through the chain? You work with abilities and skills that either work better at night, or are normally used at night. You could fit 'moon' in there as a sub theme, though I think there's a lot less Moon stuff than there is night/darkness stuff.

That could actually be rather fun. Hope you go with it.

>>44320796
Oh, didn't know that about canon, I just looked at the wiki page for blacklight. Thanks

>>44321013
Duplication from Teen Titans + Weapon from Soul Eater to wield yourself, that way your weapon can just use Deja-fu itself.

>>44320900
Wasn't Bolt more about stamina? Like he was no slouch in the speed department, but I seem to remember his thing being he could keep running at a full clip for ridiculous long periods.

>>44321043
It's because Blacklight (The virus that makes you a Prototype) just kills basically everything it infects. You'd know if you where leaking virus.

>>44321083
And kills in seconds at that, it was actually a potentially viable bioweapon.

>>44321035
The problem with that is Lune herself, when she gained human form, follows that theme. She picked up Assassination techniques from the AC verse, and is a Shadowcaster in forgotten realms, and gained the form of a black Scimitar Weapon in Soul Eater, I'm sure there's more, but that's her general theme. She's the Rogue of the party, but I need a theme for me.

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>>44320900
> durability
If we're assuming "peak" in this instance to mean "the most insane bullshit a human has ever been capable of", it gets pretty insane. Rasputin's assassins had to try to several times before he stayed down. Teddy Roosevelt was famously shot in the middle of a speech and refused to go to get treated for it until he was finished talking ("I don’t know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot—but it takes more than that to kill a Bull Moose."). And then there's this guy in pic related, who took cannonballs and sledgehammers to the stomach for the purposes of a vaudevillian side show. People have survived grenade fire. This shit is not normal. But it has happened, and we have records of it happening.

>>44321107
Well, if your partner is themed around the moon and darkness, the logical theme for you to adopt would be the sun and light.

>>44321206
But I've got a Paladin that does that
should I just focus on gathering as many companions as possible?

>>44321248
Put together a full adventuring party of companions, theme yourself as various questgiving NPCs?

>>44321248
Look, if you have companions that do all of the things, you can either find something that they don't do, change the companion or their focus, double up with one of them, or just don't have a theme. Given you've gotten as far as you have without one you might not need one. Otherwise you're just going to have to take a good look at your chain and see if any common things pop out at you.

>>44321055
I don't think that would work, the duplicates are all baseline humans With Minds like yours Except for the duplication ability.So they Wouldn't be able to transform into weapons

>>44321536
Actually the first couple of clones have powers. The first gets full access and thus would be able to turn into a weapon.
It's when you start to make a bunch that they get to only body mod level.

>>44316129
Fought The Iron Blood, as soon as we saw each other we headed straight towards one another firing all of our weapons. I managed to take down their shields while they did superfluous damage to mine. I rolled most of it and my Hecutor Pattern Plasma Macrocannon(mounted on my prow) cracked their armored prow, but that was ultimately irreverent because I turned faster than they could and hit them with my Graviton Pulsar. They ended up being crushed under the weight of their own ship, which I then lanced until there wasn't anything left.

>>44321587
Even if you just make one that's basically double the fire power, plus weapon-meister bonds make there participants more powerful the more their souls resonate. What soul could you ever resonate with more than your own?

Would Shiki's eyes kill the vessel of the Heroic Spirit or Heroic Spirit itself if he were to kill a servant?

>>44321779
No.

>>44321779
The eyes can't target something so far away as the throne of heroes, and it's questionable as to if the eyes could damage anything on the throne should they find a way there, only the servant itself would die.

>>44321770
The only problem with that though is that it has to be weapon-meister for resonance to work. If you go Demon Weapon and clone yourself, you would be a weapon-weapon combination.
It's basically what the sisters Liz and Patty are, they can use each other as weapons but they can't resonate.

>>44321840
It's 100cp to buy the ability to do so.

>>44321881
Huh, my mistake then. Carry on with the double jumper powered finishing moves then.

>>44321825
So if I understand right, each servant is essentially a copy and lacks memories of previous grail wars or not?

>>44322065
Each is a copy yes, except for Artoria, who has a contract with the grail and shows up with her real body, sort of anyway.

>>44322065
They're a copy, and yes, they lack memories of previous summonings.

Would perks that block sensing or such abilities make you unable to be detected by Saber's Instinct, so you can surprise attack her?

>>44322108
Well, to an extent. Archer knows about all the times he was summoned as a CG, for instance.

>>44322135
He's not a Heroic Spirit though. He's an exception to the rule, just like Saber.

>>44322129
Probably not? It's not really a supernatural or precog thing as it is just her natural instincts. Like with a lion or tiger.

>>44322179
>Like with a lion
Gao!

>>44322179
In that case, would anime shit like suppressing your killing intent work?

In terms of raw physical or such abilities and power of attacks with noble phantasms how does Saber at full power compare to Marvel people or Asura's wrath demigods

>>44322334
Well, it is an Anime setting so... Probably?

Anyone know whether the script used for writing in the Johto region for Pokemon is alphabetic or logographic? The fact that the Unknown were supposedly the basis of the first script in the region suggests something at least fairly close to the Latin alphabet, but it is set in Pokemon Japan, so Pokemon Kanji makes sense too. This is going to be quite important for the Silenced drawback...

>>44322452
Well for her attack,
https://youtu.be/OZ60hbFo0oI
For her stats, her strength is equal to 40 times peak human, he speed is 30 times peak human, and her endurance is 30 times peak human. Though she can use Prana burst that seems to put her around 50 times peak human in speed and strength.

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>>44320113
Y'all niggas need some cold warriors.

Question about the Allied Mental Model in Arpeggio of Blue Steel, can I buy it a Nanomaterial Warship or do I have find it one in jump?

>>44322591
So that one time she instantly jumped 4 kilometers is 50 times human peak?

Gilgamesh's Virmana is said to travel at speed of THOUGHT. HOW FAST IS THAT? I want to race it

>>44323282
Prana burst's effects aren't that clear, I only think it gets her up to about 50 due to how she deals with other servants and their stats. As for Virmana I have no idea.

>>44323282
Well our reflexes are like 120 miles per second I do believe. So...applying that to how fast a bunch of interconnected neurons fire.

He is fast. Some say too fast.
Others say not fast enough. All agree its fast

The Fate-verse is a silly place.

>>44323471
You don't even know.

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I need jumps with darker powers that bend/twist life. Or just in general twist life/make demons

>>44317563
Unlock the spoony bard inside you.

>>44323490
Try going to Geneforge maybe?

What is your nasuverse origin and what is the mage craft you center around it ?

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>>44323490
Just make sure not to create any flowers, friend.

>>44323598
>nasuverse

I never noticed the origin option which of those jumps is it in?

>>44323490
Aquaria has a pretty good one.

>>44323598
Creation and Growth, I make things with my magecraft and make them better.
>>44323661
Kara No Kyoukai

>>44323637
Why would ya say that?

>>44323598
Opportunity. I mostly treat it as a perk tree of sorts, so that I can always advance my magic in whatever direction I want.

>>44323756
That's really cool>>44323784
What's your magic that you upgraded because I don't want to hinder my reality marble they have to be based off of your origin right ?

>>44323767
The Buttercup Flower was specifically engineered to absorb souls. Like, specifically it was a FLOWER that was meant to duplicate THE POWER OF A GOD.

At what point Alphys thought this wouldn't go wrong I have no goddamn clue.

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>>44323928
Alphys did literally everything wrong.

>>44323919
>tfw you thought you pressed "post" but you actually didn't and the response was just sitting there for like twenty minutes
Wew lad

Anyway, I mostly use it for simpler and more common branches of magecraft to create more diverse variants. I use the more common ones because that way I can get much more variants under my belt, thus furthering my skill in this, and thus giving me more combat/researching options.

>>44321187
If we were being honest and stating out all the species on Earth, humans would actually have a super high endurance score. People don't know it, but physical stamina, ability to resist pain/damage, and recovery are all things we are ridiculously good at compared to most animals. In stamina in particular, we're better than all other land animals.

>>44324259
ahh ok so yours would be considered "advancement" ? always moving forward

>>44324360
"Adaptation" would work as well, but that's essentially what it is.

>>44324358
Yeah, in the old days of sharp rocks and pointy sticks, we would basically run down whatever we wanted to eat that day and shank it's exhausted body in the side.

>>44324451
ahh ok

>>44324482
Then we invented slings and throwing spears and we did this early enough that our shoulders and elbows better evolved to throw them.

>>44324515
Atlal is best.

what rank would Endiuku be for a noble phantasm ?

>>44324617
Fun to say, fun to use.

so, I haven't seen any talk of a blue dragon jump.
Has anyone claimed this? If not I may finally post something useful in this thread.

>>44324764
Pretty sure that he would be a servant

>>44324941
Nope.

>>44324959
I was meaning the chains sorry for making it unclear

>>44325005
then my work begins now

>>44324764
I think Enkidu: Chains of Heaven would be somewhere between B+ and A+.

Bear in mind that my judgement isn't the best.

>>44325033
I mean an anti god effect is rather huge are you sure B+ would cut it ?

>>44323928
Well, she probably didn't realize it was infused with Asriel's essence. Of course, that just means she was extremely lax with her lab procedures, but we knew that already.

>>44325175
>Experiments create melted amalgamated undead abominations from people's families.
>And a soulless but living unkillable god-flower that controls time and hates everyone.
>And Metaton.
Has there ever been a scientist that fucked things up for people this bad?

>>44325276
Well the last one isn't so bad is it? I mean he wanted a body....

>>44325276
Well, technically she did make everything better off than if she hadn't done anything. It's not like she was just experimenting on random people - all the Amalgametes were dead before she injected them. They may be twisted abominations of nature now, but they seem to be happy to be home. The flower experiment did eventually lead to the barrier breaking and everyone going to the surface. And you'd best not be dissing JoJotron.

>>44325399
>>44325305
I'm sure the people who became amalgamates would not be happy to be what they are.

I'm just joking with the Metaton thing. Dude loves humans. The only person he's harmful to is Burgerpants.

>>44325399
Well in fairness the dude did Run out on his family when he became famous, He really should check in on his cousin, that ghost is in a bad way.... >>Espresso is not a milkshake CAPTCHA!

>>44325446
Don't be ridiculous. Burgerpants isn't a person.

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>>44325446
They where at first. But Frisk helps them organize themselves. Only one of them was really upset by their condition and that's because it was a combination of the most volatile/incompatible ones.

They seem to be enjoying themselves now that they can see their families again. And monsters in general seem very chill and quirky taking lots of things in stride compared to humans.

Also how would anyone predict the flower would turn out the way it did. Especially when we found out she just reanimated Asriel.

>>44325532
Listen here you little shit.

Burgerpants is best monster.

Go die if you disagree.

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>>44325539
Is this you?

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So where am I supposed to get myself an undead army?

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>>44325631
No bully

>>44325660
Necromancy and sites that hosted the largest battles in history. Plenty of souls around there that probably would serve you.

>>44325706
Always bully the dragon.

>tfw we'll never have an Undertale Jump because someone claimed it and ran off with it.

>>44325795
>tfw all of its unique mechanics only work because it's a videogame, and thus approaching it from a different angle messes up the point, as it is more a meta-commentary on RPG's than it is an RPG itself

>>44325033
I'm just gonna rank it as A+ thanks

>>44325737
Don't Bully the Dragon,He is one of the nicer dragons. Also He is planet sized so That is probably a bad idea.

>>44325795
I hope whoever does it will include willpower based immunity to reality resets/rewriting. That's one of the only reasons I want it...Outside of teaching Asgore the glory of bachlordom, and saving Asriel

>>44325737
NO BULLY. Or-or I'll tell the authorities! They'll put you in your place! Meanie.

>>44325912
But nobody in the game has immunity to reality warping, rewriting, or resetting. The best you could hope for is ripple-proof memories like Flowey and Chara.

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>>44326029
That's what I meant. Should have added that. Now that I think about it what's to stop a jumper from going in as a monster and using final form to instantly become REALLY freakin' powerful. But strangely can still be killed by conventional weaponry of old.

I'll assume jumpchan going NO CHEATING or something like that. I'll just assume that the god-tierness of multiple human souls is only applicable for that jump and nerfed to one human/monster soul tier afterward.

I hope to become a goat boss monster with lots of soul SCIENCE because reasons

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>>44325826
>tfw not only this makes undertale a mess to deal worth, the already iffy situation of morality between threadgoers will reach a head when we reach "Genocide vs Pacifism" debates due to people having an attachment to their favorite characters
>Plus the occasional getting heated that it hasnt been made NOW

Im so sorry for whoever the fuck claimed Undertale

>>44326267
Nobody's mad it isn't made NOW. We just want to know it's still kicking. Undertale Anon is very, very quiet.

>>44326133
That sounds like nerf talk to me. If I want to take Monster Cat from Soul Eater and use it to become a triple God, who are you to stand in the way of my stupid and poorly thought out combo?

>>44325795
Is there even a WIP? Like beyond claiming it, and running away. I mean I don't think it would be reasonable for someone else to do something with it if there's nothing beyond tagging the jump. If the perso does return they could have their Undertale Jump up as well. Not like this hasn't happened before.

However it would probably cause too much thread drama.

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>>44325660
In general or pic specific? I'll answer for both just in case.

Pic specific: Of course, there is the option of going into the myriad crypts around Skyrim. This may potentially a problem if you can't gain control over the existent undead there. There is an ongoing civil war to tap, and the main continent is full of strife with nowhere being safe. The Imperial City should also have a large amount of dead given the recent war, and moving around should yield a sizable surplus. You could also just kill all the yellow nazi elves, and mass raise their graves. Can never kill too many nazi elves.

General: Like Crux said here >>44325726 the old battlefields, and mass grave sites would do you well. War zones, and countries in turmoil would also be a good place to look. In a pinch, morgues or doctors without ethics might suffice. The less scrupulous could just go and create corpses but ah, I'll leave that to your imagination.

Also the necromancy perk from Oblivion/Morrowind jump lets you conjure skeletons permanently from nothing so....

>mfw all this Undertale mad.

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>>44326337
I'm not going to tread on your dreams to be ultra mega god 2.5. I'm just speaking for those who might want a more...balanced experience.

I mean due to the nature of the undertale jumpers could CRUSH all but the most powerful opposition with killing intent alone. And that's not assuming they took any perks for it either. Technically I just want it to be balanced in a way assuming that it's the first [or second] in a potential jumpers list. Some jump makers are having an increasingly hard time with this concept. Perhaps it's mostly to do with the increasingly large pool of jumps. There's going to be some hilariously broken combo as a result. I don't think there's anything wrong with that at all. Personally I think it enhances the experimentation nature of it. Some will gun for the most broken Min/Maxed build imaginable while others will go for what's fun or thematically appropriate.

I hope that jump makers won't try and stop min/maxers and focus on making an internally balanced jump that won't overshadow the other jumps too much.

>>44326383
There's several WIPs- none from the person who 'claimed' it. All of them are from people who were working on it until he came along.

so if im rolling to be worthy by mjolnir what would the DC for that be 90?

I'm new to this. Is there an Undertale Jump, yet?

>>44326763
Nope