MTG: Modern General

First for U From master race

>>44139673
Tron*

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Dead archetypes edition.

>>44139731
Tower>Mine>Plant

>>44139731
Mine>Plant>Tower

>>44139867>>44139867
*What is Mine>Plant>Tower

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Post your meme decks

>>44139731
Play the one you have the most of last, otherwise tower first

>>44139986

Why tower first?

>>44139982
Landbase WIP

4 sylvan caryatid
4 viashino slaughtermaster
4 prophetic flamecunter
4 soulflayer
4 uktabi drake
4 hell's thunder
4 ghor clan rampager

2 gather the pack
4 grisly salvage
4 faithless looting
4 lightning axe

4 bloodstained mire
4 wooded foothills
2 arid Mesa
1 stomping ground
1 blood crypt
1 mountain
1 forest
1 swamp
2 blackcleave cliffs
1 graven cairns

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>>44140050
because anon said so idiot

>>44140078
>pic related

>>44139986
Worry bout that land destruction mayn. Theres no land hand disruption

>>44140127
I always play tower last but stupor and blackmail can sometimes take your land. Really crazy people might use burning inquiry. It's not likely, but it is possible

>>44140169
Good points, but personally I always feel land destruction as more of a threat.
And also, if you need to tap two lands to get out your third Urza Land, you want to have as much mana as possible when Tron is online

>>44140169
There's also fulminator mage to worry about

>>44140230
But other than fulminator, what land destruction exists?

>>44140246

Ghost quarter

>>44140261
Oh yeah thats right
yeah run the one you have the most of first, but who plays ghost quarter turns 1-3 unless you know its against tron, but who runs more than like 2 at most?

>>44140169
3/4 of a Hymn for 3 is probably too slow, huh?

Still, time spiral block always has something that surprises me.

>>44140246
Ghost Quarter I guess, crumble to dust if things get hateful, Beast within. Not a whole lot either but I'd say moreso worrysome than discard

>>44140277

Yeah probably more of a thing after sideboard

>>44140277
>>44140127
They will usually assume you had to dig for the last one and that you don't have multiples

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Let's imagine that I'm a huge waifufag weeb. What deck should I play in modern? Hatebears?

>>44139731
The Tron player should always try to play Tower before the others so that it is more likely to get hit by land destruction than the others. If the Tron player needs to tap out to find and play another Tower, then they would have 3 mana available whereas the other two lands would produce only two.

yeah my favorite deck is random rares

>>44140312
If they see you dig for it then you're already probably playing it later than the others, depending on your opening hand

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>>44140322
Hatebears has great waifus like Thalia and Flickeriwsp

>>44140332
>implying land destruction
It's really dependent upon the matchup/opening hand

>>44140367
>fnot mentioning best waifu tarmogoyf

>>44140350
If you mind game hard enough and smile after you crack your egg then play one of your two towers they usually think they can get you

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>>44140078
Prophetic Flamespeaker is pretty good, if only he had 4 toughness

Here's another shitbrew that I use him in. Him and Slavering Nulls do some serious work.

>>44140423
I mean, all your land fetches require you to reveal what you searched for, so if you're fetching for a Tron piece it generally means you don't have it, but you can't really sequence at that point anyway...

>>44140322
Jund, Hatebears, Zoo, Storm with 7th edition sleight of hand, tron, gifts. All have at least 1 waifu.

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>>44140393
not wanting to fuck this

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Modern playable?

>>44140423
Oh but yea that makes sense, all depends on their read though

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>>44140477
>zoo
furfag

what about boogles?

>>44140468
I guess dig was the wrong word, I'm just saying by turn 3+ you are more likely to have drawn into your turn 3+ land than your T1/2 lands, meaning you are more likely to have not had your turn 3+ land in your opener.
They realize this and try to kill your 3rd piece assuming it was the hardest to get, thus having multiples of your third is a good idea

>>44140518
>5 mana sorcery that doesn't win the game and can even set you back
No.

>>44140518
Nah, at least in T1 decks, but the mechanic has a lot of potential

As always with new spells matter stuff, I'm hoping for a decent modern playable cantrip.

>>44140392
I was assuming one of each of the Urza lands in the opening hand since the prompt is allowing us to choose the order.

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>>44140518
No.

>>44140577
Yea i agree with the multiples thing, see what you're saying with queing up thirds
Sequencing is still really dependent on how you draw, whether you have eggs or digs, ect.

>>44140577
This thinking works assuming they can't see your hand but most decks have targeted discard or git probe so odds are they'll be able to get a read on what you're doing.

>>44139731

Plant > Mine > Tower

You need Urza's Power Plant to power up the machines in Urza's Mine so they can harvest the raw materials needed so you can construct Urza's Tower so you can finally oversee all your production.

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>>44140322
Any variation of BGx.

>>44140694
QUICK
WHICH PLANESWALKER IS BEST WAIFU MATERIAL

>>44140648
Yeah it goes out the window if they see it, if they see your hand fall back to
>tower first

>>44140719
Elspeth.

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>>44140719

>>44140719
Tamiyo

>>44140724
I kne wI was right

>>44140535
>elves

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>>44139731
Mine>Plant>Tower

Material is needed to get the Plant online. With a fueled and functioning Plant, wizardry may commence in the Tower.

>>44140719
Tamiyo is the only one I can think of without huge flaws
Chandra would get pissed at the smallest things
Lili seems like she'd cheat on you and is probably evil
Nissa is dumb as bricks
Elspeth is dead
Kiora is a fish

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>>44140719
She may be a selfish cunt but she's my selfish cunt.

>>44140518
not without something like dr teeth.

>>44140798

>Elspeth is dead

Yeah but dead girls don't say no

>>44140719
Ashiok

>>44140846
maybe for some dickery with Suspend?

>>44140518

Realistically you'd be looking to throw up a Gitaxian Probe or something then play this afterwards. As to what decks would do such a thing or need such a thing I have no idea.

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>>44140798
>Kiora is a fish

I fail to see the problem here.

Seconding Ashiok though.

>>44140936
Rug prowess. It doesn't want tentacles, but it's probably the best deck to trigger surge.

>>44140993

Well i'm going to obviously presume that RUG prowess doesn't really need to reset the board with that card so here's hoping there's some other surge cards that are useful and cheaper.

>>44140731
sorry, not into bimbos

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>>44140322
Jund for Dark Confidant

>>44141307
>posting skrillex confidant

>>44141421
he is a cutie!!

>>44140322
Ignore everyone else. Soul Sisters has the most waifus.

>>44141433
Seconding this, I'd snuggle up with MM2 Bob no homo though.

>>44141447
Auriok champion a best.

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>>44141447
ehhh

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>>44141421
I think he looks more like Robin Taylor

>>44141457
Same except with lots of actual homo

>>44141529
I'm no fucking faggot, but I'm very homo for MM bob. no homo.

>>44141556
>>44141529
Get outta my tg fagbois

>>44141529
Who am I kidding? "No homo" means that there is a 100% chance that homo activities will take place.

No homo though.

>modern general: closet homos

>>44141701
I'm only in the closet to my family because my parents are keeping me there

>>44141624
Rude

>>44141556
>>44141642
>tfw no straight boyfriend

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best husbando?

>>44140719
Karn

>>44141751
>not jace

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I haven't played MTG since like 06 and even then I played casually.

I wanna get back in but I need a deck,

Let me say this, I am a sadist.

I really enjoy decks that cause tears, it doesn't need to be meta but I need tears flowing,

I play YGO online and use multiple Exodia variants because they produce maximum tears.

What is a deck I can play that would make me less than scum and universally hated?

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>>44141751
The banana shaman is the only correct choice.

>>44141798
Lantern control.

You'll get your teeth kicked in by jund and tron, but there's a lot of decks that can't handle it.

>>44141798
Lantern control, the deck's strategy is to stop your opponent from doing anything relevant while you slowly but surely mill them out or create an infinite loop of artifacts that slowly burn your opponent to death.

>>44141821
I never realized just how kinky this art was

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>>44141821
>chink

>>44141847
>>44141855
Sounds technical, what's a good place to look up builds?

Is it really expensive?

>>44141870
Tasigur didn't become khan by being a bottom.

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>>44141751
Jace TMS
sorry about the shitty pic its the only one I could find at the time
Also thats a super cute picture

>>44141821
I want an arrogant delving boyfriend

>>44141899
Hes a power bottom, although he does do a lot of digging

>>44141894
You can find a deck tech here:

http://www.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/lantern_control_with_zac_elisk.html

And see the deck in action (winning a GP in the process) here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ch6UvdzvrE

It's not too expensive compared to other modern decks.

>>44141942
Deck in "action"

>everyone on modern general is gay

ok.

>>44142113
found the homo with repressed feelings
its ok, did snapcaster mage touch you in a bad way?

>>44141481
Am I wrong?

>>44142161
Twice.

>>44142183
They're boring.

>>44142113
Too bad noone at my LGS is

>>44142208
It's ok anon, I was too. Many, many times

>>44140277
I have hatebears in my meta, dude runs 4 ghost quarters and two tectonic edges just for me

>>44142314
WAKE ME UP INSIDE

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>>44142338
(CANT WAKE UP)

>>44142314
Thats brutal ayy

Delverbro here, got my sideboard purchased today so I'm pretty stoked.
Picked up 2 swerve since my besty rocks burn, probably won't bring them to fnm but I fell in love with trolling burn with specific blue cards.
Anywho gonna post what I think I should bring, but first anyone have a good list?

>>44142930
Gotta decklist?

>>44140078
Fuck yeah! Soul Flayer. Running a similar in Rakdos colors since I'm too cheap to get 3 color manabase.

>>44142930
>Swerve

Why not just run Redirect? Works on Electrolyze and Forked Lightning.

>>44140846
>dr teeth
?

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>>44142963
I realize redirect is strictly better, but my landbase is a bit fucked so I prefer the UR cost to the UU cost. Plus my friend (and most burn decks) only has single target stuff so it works out okay.
Plus it's called swerve like how pimpin is that I mean c'mon
>>44142748
I'll post the list in a sec, pretty happy with it tho minus a conundrum I'm having on mainboarding 1 or 2 dispel.

Also got Ral Zarek today for casual. Keranos a shit, Ral is a boss

Bottom is the 15 I'm thinking of taking (no bullying my swerve pls)

>>44143075
why annul?
Why four of them?
Also why a roast and a rending volley?
Also Keranos totally fucks Ral up senpai

>>44143075
Spreading seas are there for da tron matchup (although my friend has moons if I need to borrow em). Could add a molten rain instead. Annuls, idk they seem stronk, could replace with smash to smithereens or something.

Flashfreeze and swerve can be replaced if you guys have any suggestions. Was gonna get a second rending volley but they were out of stock :(

>>44143102
Roast because fuck rhinos/goyfs, I hate big creatures so much.
Rending to counter twin

Annuls are for affinity, basically my line of thought is t1 they drop memnite/thropter/drum/all that jazz, t2 they drop the thing that kills me, so a 1 mana hard counter seemed cool. Again I'm on the fence about em being replaced with smash.
I probably won't put in 4, only 2, but they seem stronk as fuck for some reason.

I like Rals style, Keranos is untouchable and actually a viable sb but does he have a FUCKIN COIN FLIP ULT?!
THOUGHT SO.

>>44143102
annul this dick

>>44143075
nigga what am i looking at

>>44143379
what does that even mean

>>44143337
Four annuls is a lot, smash or even ancient grudge might be better.

>>44143433
Well 4 is a lot I see.
But what about 2?
Why all the annul hate u guys dont u see what I'm seeing? I mean izzet a good card or not?

>>44143474
No? It sees no play. Steel Sabotage is a better card in the meta and it's only played in Vintage.

>>44143062
psychatog

>>44143474
Its almost too specific, it also doesn't do anything if you draw it after they cast the spell

>>44143474
Ancient Grudge is just better. Most people throw in a Stomping Ground or Breeding Pool for it.

>>44143474
run shattering spree instead like a non retard

>>44143661
DESU I'm surprised to see Knightfall on there
Guess people are testing it out a lot

>>44143661
>tfw your deck hasn't broken into the top 10 decks played
>tfw you know its just going to go downhill

>>44143713
What do you play?

>>44143602
>shattering spree in izzet delver
>not using shatterstorm instead

Also maybe it sees no play because of attitudes like that.
It seems niche as fuck, absolutely, I mean it has to be niche when it's a 1-mana hardcounter. I'd only take it out vs affinity though, so would it really be *that* ineffective? I agree it'd be nice to have something that deals with artifacts on the board too, like a smash to smithereens, but I still don't get why 2 annul would be bad in that matchup...

>>44143720
Naya company. I think Knightfall is going to overtake it one day and I definitely think Gruul Zoo is better than it.

>>44143661
I don't think Bloom Titan makes up that much

>>44143661
Why does Lantern Control never show up on these lists?

I have a 73% win rate with it overall. Nearly 100% in some matchups. It's a good deck.

>>44143750
There's just better SB options for Affinity over Annul.
There's no reason to waste a slot on Annul

>>44143763
Got a decklist? And you could easily turn that into Naya Zoo couldn't you? Thats a pretty good deck

>>44143768
Look how big it is online

>>44143801
Probably a combination of a steep learning curve and the fact that its kind of a weird combination of cards that go into specific other decks. Also it probably comes with a stigma, which is dumb

>>44143805
Yeah, I'll type it up because I know all of my deck lists by heart

4 Knight of the Reliquary
2 Voice of Resurgence
3 Qasali Pridemage
4 Path to Exile
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Noble Hierarch
1 Birds of Paradise
3 Collected Company
2 Mirran Crusader
3 Scavenging Ooze
4 Loxodon Smiter
4 Wild Nacatl
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Windswept Heath
1 Kessig Wolf Run
1 Ghost Quarter
2 Forest
1 Plains
1 Mountain
2 Stomping Ground
1 Sacred Foundry
2 Razorverge Thicket
3 Temple Garden
No goyf bc poorfag but it does a decent enough job anyway

>>44143928
Looks good desu, goyfs are probably the next thing to get for you. Also why one bird and 3 Collecteds?

>>44143928
Also how do you like PtE in this meta?

>>44143506
Right, gotcha. Although that might be a little too cute.

>>44143985
Birds is p shit but you want 5 mana dorks to be more reliable
You also don't really need that many companies, the deck is either hyper aggro, win turn 3 or it's playing a tedious game of guessing and navigating.

>>44144004
Love it, having an instant spell that exiles is pretty much what keeps me in games. Takes care of Tron's engines, Twin from going off, big Goyf, Titan, all that shit and since it's one mana it doesn't get countered by spell snare (dispel sucks though) and by the time other decks can use it I can deal with their answers.
The deck as a whole has some good matchups against high-tier decks simple because it can just either out-speed them or because it can just send in more creatures than the opponent has counterspells or burn. Turn 2 4/4's are no laughing matter, especially when most people start the game at 17 life.

>>44144064
>Takes care of Tron's engines
What? No it doesn't. It just hits wurmcoils and ulamogs, and ulamog still gets his cast trigger

>>44144064
>trons engines
Like its creatures? IDK what you mean by engines
And it looks really fun to play against to I love playing creature decks with Jund because its always intense

>>44144102
>>44144105
I literally meant Wurmcoil Engine, I guess I should have specified

>>44144164
That makes more sense.

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>frostwalker
>izzet charm
I can't afford 4 snapcasters so this is what I got instead dwi
Condescend is my greedy 4th manaleak. Greed is good.
Not sure on 2 dispel (definitely 1) mainboard but its so damn good sometimes
And the single forked bolt, could exchange for a Roast/FlameSlash/BurstLightning

inb4 bullying ral

>>44144677
also fuck me sideways i forgot the vaporsnag >.>

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>>44144677
Gtfo with this shit. What are you trying to pull here.

>>44144677
put in shivan meteor for the lulz

>>44143879
The learning curve really isn't that steep though. Sure you have to understand how other decks work, and be able to tell what their threats are. But shouldn't you already know the main meta decks anyways?

The stigma would make sense. And many people do think me an asshole for playing it. And that many people hate playing against it.

But I actually enjoy playing against it. I enjoy trying to find ways around the lock.

>>44144742
Tbqh family I'd rather Harvest Pyre, especially w/o snaps
>>44144733
>can't pilot a deck without goyfs or le bananaman to bruteforce your way to victory
I've gone 3-0 vs burn with this list, that's all that matters

>>44140719
Koth

Why is Simic so shit?

>>44145217
Simic deals damage in the form of poison counters and is actually pretty bonkers

>>44145217

Graft is a shit version of modular

would anyone be interested in posting the blood moon deck that was posted a few days ago?

>>44139704
Nah, man. That WB legend is gonna bring some weird WB Token/Soul Sister hybrid into Modern and its gonna be great.

>>44139590
Heres a question for you, MTG:MG. I built storm, and I talked about it on here a while back, and had a shitfit about how it went from tier-1 to tier-trash over the few year span I took to build it.

Would it be a good idea to run Quicken and Layline of anticipation so I could cast Days undoing or even combo out on my opponents turn, or would running Izzet Charm mainboard be a good idea, granted its casting cost for this kind of deck is a little difficult, but its three modes are all useful, and how do y'all feel abouta single Banefire in place of a grapeshot?

>>44146931
None of those ideas are good. Maybe izzet charm sb for canonists or something, its kill mode is the only reason you would want it at all.

>>44143803
I'd rather Steel Sabotage as it's strictly better vs affinity but I also like how it can also deal with GW auras
Pros for annul/sabotage vs kill spells:
-only 1 mana
-stops etched champion
-goes over welding jar/spellskite/modular

Are there any other decks that run off enchantments? DnT? Probably not worth it for twin, since the combo isn't crutial to their plan.

>>44147168
Can I play my guilty boner in modern? Couldn't find any lists, and couldn't find a picture not for ants.

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>>44147962
i didn't mean to quote and what the hell happened to my picture desu.

>>44143661
I've played almost all of these:

Affinity = my favorite
Burn = okay
Jund = nice
RG Tron = fun, but no thanks
UR Twin = okay
Amulet Bloom = sometimes fun, too inconsistent
Merfolk = meh
Grixis Twin = 2nd favorite
Infect = okay
Abzan = nope, too fair
Scapeshift = very nice
Naya Company = boring
Grixis Control / Midrange = okay
Living End = okay
Gruul Zoo = alright
Bogles = fuck that, way too narrow
Abzan Company = haven't played it, don't care
Ad Nauseum = no
Knightfall = never played this, but it sucks in testing
Temur Twin = 3rd favorite
Elves = hell no, this deck blows

>>44147036
What about the draw? Another Faithless looting isn't bad.

>>44147962
>>44148113
Nope, no way Ink Eyes is modern playable

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>>44143661
>That face when you realize your favorite deck will never be tier 1 again.

>>44148113
>>44147962

You can always play her in a casual deck just like me

>>44140719
Tibalt

>>44148153
Nevermind... I'm not quite used to those stupid new names. Fuck Temur, I was thinking that was UWR. RUG Twin sucks.

>>44140719
jace, fuck that boipussy up

>>44148113

I guess you can throw it in with Goryo's Vengeance for something.

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"The 27th deck in modern is as good as the first" - Patrick Chapin

is he right?

>>44148734
No, he's on crack again.

>>44148734
Has anyone listened to his podcast? It's just an hour of him shooting the shit about random Magic topics.

I like it.

>>44148113
Run her in Abzan with lingering souls

>>44148827
Its the best thing to listen while brewing

>>44148734

Somewhat. What he really means is if your deck isn't a tier 1 deck but has a great matchup against a tier 1 deck that happens to be the "best" deck at the moment then yeah you can do quite well.

>>44140988
>Ashiok
>waifu
fucking shitlord, check your privilege

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>>44140719
Narset
Autistic girls make the best waifus

>>44145217

Scapeshift is alright. Deck's pretty much just a Simic deck that splashes red and B/W for the combo and board-clearing.

>>44149459
>Autistic girls
>posting Wahaha
>not Rin

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How do you guys feel about the new best 4 drop in Modern?

>>44149561
>best 4 drop in modern
lol, that's a tough competition right there

>>44149561
ITS SHIT

>>44149561

Not a bad singleton or 2 of in Jund or Naya lists.

you guys watching the world magic cup on twitch?

>>44149699
Yes, format is weird but the matches have been really exciting.

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>playing delver without goyf

>>44149699
Yeah, one dude on tram Italy is a qt

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>>44149758
>Playing Delver with any colors other than U and R.

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>>44150158
>not playing countercat or rug delver

>>44149699
Happy Italy's in the finals.

>>44150177
>Delver with Rugs

May as well just throw in Tasigur.

At least it kills Goyf's potential.

>>44150199
Tasigur is garbage in multiples, which isn't what I think Delver wants. You can easily run Goyf as a 4-of, not so with Bananaman.

>Decks that run Tasigurs and Goyfs side by side
disgusting

>>44150328
Nah, you choose one or the other.

Personally I think that Tasigur works better since it uses your graveyard and can return spells to you if needed. Also he isn't as vulnerable to bolts.

Plus going black means that you can run things like Terminate and Murderous cut.

>>44146590
Skred?

Wizards decides that the next edition of From the Vault is going to be FTV: Modern, and puts YOU in charge. What cards do you include?

>>44150694
Inkmoth Nexus
Aether vial
Splinter Twin
Lightning Bolt
Dark Confidant
Snapcaster Mage
Arcbound Ravager
Emrakul
Lord of Atlantis
Comet Storm


Is goyf really the only good green card in modern?

>>44150775
Chord of calling is pretty dope.

>>44150775
CoCo

>>44150694
Inkmoth Nexus
Spellskite
Snapcaster Mage
Arcbound Ravager
Noble Hierarch
Taramgoyf
Goblin Guide
Fulminator Mage
Thoughtseize
Blood Moon
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Wurmcoil Engine
Mox Opal
Grove of the Burnwillows

>>44150775
>comet storm
I chuckled

>>44150930
And then they were hoarded and nobody could get a box for less than $1000

Is merfolk fun or a brainless aggro strategy.
I'm looking to trade in affinity and possibly pick up the fish.

>>44150775
Scavenging Ooze, eh Noble Hierarch.

>>44150978
Merfolk is fun and its pretty interactive. Rewards smart plays

>>44150694
20 cards right?

Inkmoth
Goblin Guide
Aether Veil
Arcbound Ravager
Delver of Secrets
Splinter Twin
Serum Visions
Lightning Bolt
Remand
Path to Exile
Inquisition of Kozilek
Thoughtseize
Urza's Tower
Urza's Mine
Urza's Power Plant
Grove of the Burnwillows
Oblivion Stone
Kitchen Finks
Abrupt Decay
Azusa, Lost but Seeking


too high value y/n?

>>44150978
Merfolk is brainless aggro fun

>>44150694
Thoughtsieze
Tasigur
Deceiver Exarch
Remand
Tarmogoyf
Ancient Stirrings
Lightning Bolt
Blood Moon
Path to Exile
Stony Silence
Batterskull
Mox Opal
Sword of X and Y
Inkmoth Nexus
Ghost Quarter/ Tec Edge

>>44151035
320 to get all these cards on TCGplayer right now btw.

>>44151025
>>44151042
I'm getting mixed messages here

>>44150694
I'd do alt art versions of some of the format's most iconic cards, without going crazy with the money cards.

Remand
Lightning Bolt
Inquisition of Kozilek
Wild Nacatl
Spellskite
Path to Exile
Serum Visions
Gitaxian Probe
Noble Heirarch
Terminate
Lantern of Insight

>>44151163
Who are you going to believe, an anon or a literal faggot, attentionwhore tripfag?

>>44148734
I think he's right.

>>44148827
What's it called?

>>44151163
I've played the deck. It's not mindless aggro. You'll get punished for the traditional "drop all your creatures and turn them all sideways"

>>44151257
That's called winning

>>44151237
Top Level Podcast.

Worth a listen if you want to hear an hour or so of Chapin's thoughts.

>>44151188
This seems like the level of garbage wizards would release

>>44150694
Here's what I would release:
Karn Liberated
Cranial Plating
Inkmoth Nexus
Path to Exile
Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
Lord of Atlantis
Serum Visions
Inquisition of Kozilek
Living End
Lightning Bolt
Grim Lavamancer
Splinter Twin
Summer Bloom
Collected Company
Abrupt Decay

This added up to about $135 on TCGplayer, so the MSRP would probably be $150.

>>44151533
>Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
Replace with Avenue Mindcensor

>>44151533
>Thalia
>Modern
Also reprinting Summer Bloom doesn't seem like something they would allow given that it's a card that goes against what they want modern to be.

>>44151562
Oops. Mindcensor is a good suggestion.

>>44151570
The other option for that slot is Scapeshift. To include Scapeshift, I'd probably need to lower the value somewhere else, probably by cutting nexus for Ghost Quarter.

>>44151357
It's sad but true, they aren't going to reprint cards that sell for serious amounts of money in a readily available collection and if they did, stores would mark them up massively anyway.

>>44151533
I would take out Karn and throw in Grove of the Burnwillows.

That card has no reason to be at $50+

>>44151747

I think Grove was already in a FtV set.

>>44151819
Well shit, it was.

In that case replace Karn with Oblivion Stone imo.

How do you guys feel about Mogis in modern.
He's only 4 mana and is very difficult to remove

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>>44151840

>Oblivion Stone is $30

When did this happen?!

>>44151865
Earlier this year, when it wasn't announced for MM2

>yfw its down from $40

Also Arcbound Ravager NEEDS a reprint.

>>44151865
This anon >>44151896 is partially wrong, the big spike happened in August when in a modern SCG event GR Tron both won the event, was one of the top played decks in day 2 and the top8 had 2 or 3 copies of the deck in it.

>>44151940
http://www.mtgstocks.com/cards/5994

>MM2 released May 22nd
>Spike happened June 8th

Say what?

>>44151896
>Arcbound Ravager NEEDS a reprint
No. I want to sell mine for nearly $100

>>44151863
He'll almost never be a creature.
The only R/B deck that's good is Jund, and you're probably never have enough Devotion to turn him on.
His effect just isn't that good either.

>>44151863
He's interesting but where would he fit in?

>>44151863
>Modern
>only 4 mana
Back to the kitchentable with you. Also he is just bad Sulfuric Vortex, too expensive for burn and doesn't fit into anything else. Not to mention that he is a choice card which is inherently bad and he just straight up doesn't do anything against certain deck like tokens.

>>44152047
I dunno. Some control shell. Maybe if that snow deck splashes black? He puts a real clock on grindy matches

>>44152112
Do you even play modern or just shitpost?
4 mana is incredibly doable

>>44152123
Keranos does it better.

>>44152123
He does but so does Kerenos and he just does it better.

>>44152162
>>44152163
Keranos is blue

>>44152153
You don't say "only" you retard, 4 is at the end of the curve for most decks with a splash of one to three 5 drops.

Implying that a 4 mana spell is cheap in modern is just plain retarded.

>>44152317
>BFZ draft
It's not fun to draft.

Why do Lightning Greaves see no modern play? Even in sideboard

>>44152553
Why would it? All it gives is shroud and haste. That's not good enough on modern right now

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>>44150930
Doesn't everyone have all these already?

>>44152582
>white border moon
Peasant

>>44152582
Nice fakes Chang. You almost has me there with the white border blood moon misdirection.

>>44152582
Not all of us started in 2002

>>44152707
>white border moon
>Peasant
I have a third Dark one and another Chronicles one somewhere.

>>44152710
>Nice fakes
Nope.

>>44152726
Started in 1995, actually.

>>44152553
Artifact removal is everywhere

>>44152153
Mogis is shit for 4 mana in the decks where he would matter.

>>44152908
So don't play any artifacts in modern

>>44152997
No. Don't rely on them and don't play subpar ones.

If not for Affinity, I think Restore Balance or Open the Vaults might be playable.

>>44153043
Arcbound is ban worthy imo

>>44153133
Well, your opinion is trash

>>44150633
nah, it was much more silly.
It was 4 moon and 4 magus of the moons plus a lot of fast mana but i can't remember what else

>>44153133
pls no

>>44153168
Free win red

>>44150694
Lightning Bolt
Thoughtseize
Path to Exile
Noble Hierarch
Inquisition of Kozilek
Serum Visions
Goblin Guide
Spellskite
Delver of Secrets
Lingering Souls
Chord of Calling
Aether Vial
Ancient Stirrings
Cranial Plating
Splinter Twin

I have left tarmogoyf off the list to befuddle the masses in true Wizards of the Coast form.

>>44153139
Free sac and modular for 2 mana?

Shits busted

http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/much-abrew-about-nothing-modern-free-win-red

This deck?

>>44153380
Here's a reply

>>44153384
>modern "competitive" brew
>beats only tier 2 decks and a terrible jund deck

>>44139986
you play tower last, because chances are you'll need to use plant and mine to crack expedition map or use them to help search for tower, and then play tower to get three mana

Could skred run extraplanar lens?

So what are people's thoughts on slamming two or three copies of Retreat to Coralhelm into Domain Zoo somewhere in the 75? Tweak the manabase to suit KotR and reliably get U on T4 or so for a surprise win?

I've also considered doing the same with CounterCat.

>>44153576
Sounds clunky.

>>44144677
I reckon abbot of Keral keep or phantasmal bear would be better choices that frost walker.

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>>44140719

>>44153270
>>44153384

Thanks!

Can mardu midrange work

>>44148847
to recurr what?

>>44154635
Maybe, but I don't know what good creatures it would have access to.

You'd have Lightning Helix, Cracking Doom, Bolt, etc, plus access to Terminate.

Maybe a token build with Butcher of the Horde?

>>44154730
Whatever your opponent plays.
She's one of the shitty other graveyard reanimation effects

>>44154771
I misread, this card is actually bad lol.

>>44154753
butcher of the horde is a bad card though.

>>44154753
Blood Baron, Ajani Vengeant, Hero of Bladehold, that dumb cat king from Theros

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Don't know midrange, made this list in 5 minutes.

>>44155059
Yea I guess there are better options anyway.

>>44154971
Blood Baron too expensive, Don't like Ajani (4-cost Lightning Helix), Cat King is in.

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>>44155191
It's a start for me thanks friend

>>44155059
>>44154753
Dark Confidant, 2 and 4 drop Aristocrats + a ton of sac out options, Reckoner, Bloodghast...

>>44155539
Eh, I guess it was going for a more controlling route. Though if I wanted to play Aristocrats I would not be in Mardu colors.

Also Cat King > Reckoner

>>44148204
tfw storm

>>44155761
>Also Cat King > Reckoner
They serve totally different purposes

>>44143661
Why is Burn so popular if it never tops?

Also how is Burn that popular? I've only ever met one other burn player in my area, everyone else is playing Affinity, Twin, Tron, Bloom, or Jund. I've only seen one other Burn player.

>>44156046
Probably because it's cheaper in comparison to other decks

>>44153573
Could do. I've considered hardcasting T4 Akroma, Angel of Fury off that.

>>44153911
Either deck is clunky to begin with. Question is whether it'd be worth the possible combo out with a deck that's already a clunky T2 build.

>>44156046
Up until recently it was a lot cheaper than other decks. It also has a near non existant learning curve.

>>44156344
>Near-Nonexistent learning curve

kek.

>>44156300
Well, after T4. Or T4 with other ramp. I forgot that the Lens exiles.

>>44156374
Id say burn is more about knowing your opponents deck than yours. All of burns skills comes from knowing the meta

>>44156300
Do multiple lens effects stack?
As in 2 lens allowing for 3 mana from 1 land

>>44156553
Yes

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>>44139590

As you all now, Modern is the premier format for p̶l̶a̶y̶e̶r̶s̶ investors, hope you all bought several copies of Ensnaring bridge, as a buyout just occurred! You'll be looking forward to paying up to 60 dollars for this niche card! Get your wallets ready!

Don't count it being printed in Standard, a card like this would be no fun at all! Hope you guys look forward to this Mythic Rare in the new Modern Masters 2016!

>>44156509
Mostly yes.

But you also have to learn to be miserable, because some matchups you cannot win against period. Other matchups may as well just be a coin flip.

Burn is probably the easiest deck to disrupt and have hate against. You can win game 1 without a much of a problem, but game 2 and 3 will be a fucking struggle.

Personally if there is a piss easy deck to play with I'd say that its Affinity or Boggles.

>>44156553
I'd call that overextending, but they trigger separately.

>>44156698
Again? Another one? You would think the buyouts would have stopped after that summer-september period where every weak had 2 card spikes. To be honest this is a pretty smart one, an already highly costed card that will never ever be reprinted in standard and has slim chanced (imho) to be reprinted in a mm set.

Buyout soon, fellow comrade!

>>44156698
>$60 for a card thats barely used except for Memelanterns

people are crazy

>>44156698
Jesus Christ i wouldn't want to see this card in standard at all and I'm usually no fun. What in modern besides Lantern Control even runs this card

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>>44156509
Well, one could also say that Burn is the hardest deck since it requires you to know how every other deck works. And then you have to start adding numbers so that you get to 20 before you have no cards.

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>>44140322
Burn

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>>44140322
Boggles

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>>44140322
Twin

>>44156917
This. I could make a program that pilots a burn deck, and it would win 90% of game 1. Game 2 it would shit the bed.

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>>44156806
What do you think the next buyout will be? My money is on this guy

>>44157182
Way way too recent and not played enough to see a spike and maintain the spiked price.

Kamigawa-Mirrodin and back are the prime targets.

>>44157182
Urza Lands

>>44157237
True but it's very cheap for being the best version of Wrath of God, and tap out controls decks are starting to emerge in the meta. I would be surprised if this card became at least 8-10 bucks soon, while abrupt decay jumps up to 25.

>>44157237
I say one of the shoals
>>44157302
nah, too many versions of them exist

>>44156907
8rack

>>44157329
yeah but nobody plays 8rack

>>44153937
Keral keep is fucking op as shit but I really don't like running counterspells with her in the deck. If she flips a land, a bolt, a cantrip, holy man she's like snapcaster 2.0. She can even flip a snapcaster.
But then she flips my spellsnare and I get all sad
I think she's gonna go up in price, mark my words modern general, she gives rdw gas and that is a very scary thing.

Anyways I'd rather just hold off until I get snaps and save some $, but if you were to remove the left portion of that list and added some extra cantrips, maybe some white splash for paths/helix/mantises, and koral keeps you could have a dank as fuck deck.

whats the weirdest semi viable deck?

>>44157429
Scapeshift

>>44157429
Restore balance

>>44157317
>>I say one of the shoals
Bad FoW is already high due to legacy, fish shoal spiked already during summertime when it was used in Goryo, blazing is banned, fish is just always a 241 removal.

Which leaves Shining. I like shining but healing salve effects have never made it big.

>>44157489
I already play that, I'm looking for something else to play because I love decks like that

>>44157509
>Bad FoW is already high due to legacy
Nobody plays that card in legacy.

>>44157529
Ad Naus
Goryo's Vengeance
Living End
Free Win Red
Land Destruction

>>44157376
Basically what I mean is
-9 counters
-2 frost -2 charm
+4 snapcaster
+4 abbot

+5 something
Lavaspike, Sleight of hand, idk

>>44156937
Wow, I didn't realise how cute Taylor Swiftspear was until I saw this art up close.

Fuck that card though.

>>44157587
Its in blue heavy manaless dredge sometimes because it counters RiP with Narcomeba and Whirlpool Rider and you can pitch it to Force
As if that counts

>>44158418
new thread

>>44143661
I don't see TOKENS on that list

>>44146601
i play tokens and think that it might be an option, but it would eat a lot of removal. testing will have to occur tho