Traitor Tuchel Tears

What happened?

>>76218860
tuchel got fired

bye bye
>>76218860
he didn't suck Watzke's cock enough

Dirtmund shareholders did it again, fucking scumclub

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>echte liebe

tuchel got fired

>>76218848
>Traitor

are you retarded?

He got fired you massive idiot.

>>76218897
Come home, Favre

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Is this /bundes/

>>76218860
Dortmund had to buy the referees for the last 2 matches to reach 3rd place.

>>76218921
*?

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>people unironically follow this club, chanting Echte Liebe

>>76218931
*last 3 matches

why are germans so unloyal? those fucking krauts, WWIII when, i want to spit in a krauts face

>>76218977
Thanks straya, enjoy your stay in the Bundes

>>76218977
we are still standing strong with our emu allies tho

the next invasion is only a matter of time, sydney is our rightful clay!

what the absolute fuck

how can one club shoot itself in the foot this much simply because of one man's massive ego

Geht Kult-Kloppo Jürgen Kult-Kloppo "Kloppo" Jürgen "Kult-Kloppo" Klopp in eine Bar. Sagt der Jürgen "Kloppo" Kult-Kloppo "Kloppo" Klopp: Ich bin der Kult-Kloppo "Kloppo" Jürgen "Kloppo" Jürgen Klopp. Sagt der Barkeeper: DER Jürgen "Kult-Kloppo" Kloppo "Kult-Kloppo" Jürgen "Kloppo" Klopp? Da erwidert Kloppo Jürgen "Kloppo" Jürgen "Kult-Kloppo" Klopp: Jawoll, ich bin DER "Kloppo" Jürgen "Kult-Kloppo" Kult-Kloppo. Da ist der Barkeeper erstaunt: Dass der Jürgen "Kloppo" Kult-Kloppo Jürgen "Jürgen Klopp" Klopp mal in meine Bar kommt, das hätte ich vom Kult-Kloppo Jürgen "Kloppo" Jürgen Klopp "Kult-Kloppo" Klopp ja gar nicht erwartet. Da sagt der Kult-Kloppo "Kloppo" Jürgen "Kloppo" Jürgen "Kult-Kloppo" Jürgen "Kloppo" Jürgen Klopp: Tun die wenigsten. Bis sie ihn fahren. Der Barkeeper staunt: Ach, Jürgen "Kloppo" Kult-Kloppo Jürgen Klopp "Kult-Kloppo" Kloppo, das ist schon brutal geil, Jürgen "Kloppo" Jürgen "Jürgen" Klopp, muss ich wirklich sagen. Da erwidert der Kloppo Jürgen "Kloppo" Kloppo Kult-Kloppo Jürgen "Kult Kloppo" Kult Kloppo Jürgen "Kloppo" Klopp: Dafür steh ich mit meinem Namen: Jürgen "Kloppo" Jürgen "Kult-Kloppo" Kloppo Jürgen "Kloppo" Kloppo Kult-Kloppo Jürgen "Jürgen Klopp" Kult-Kloppo Jürgen "Kloppo" Kult-Kloppo Jürgen "Kult-Kloppo" Kloppo "Kloppo" Jürgen "Kloppo" Kult-Kloppo Jürgen "Kloppo" "Jürgen Klopp" Kult-Kloppo Jürgen "Kult-Kloppo" Jürgen "Kloppo" Kloppo Kult-Kloppo Klopp."

>>76218848
what do dortmund fans think of this? the real fans, not those paid to bang the drums and sing for 90 minutes

every year when I think the next season will be somehow exciting because the bundelisga won't be a one team league, dortmund is pulling a off a massive >schalke

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>>76218848
Although I'm not a shareholder, I will miss him at Dortmund. :_:
Fuck Watzke desu. This guys ego got to big for the club and if the new coach is going to flop, he's the one who should step down and leave.

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>>76219062
Einmal lag der BVB in Rückstand, Trainer Kloppo schrie herum und zog wilde Grimassen. Die Mannschaft reagierte umgehend und gewann doch noch mit 6:1. Kloppo hinterher gewohnt schlagfertig: "Einfach nur geil!"

Eines schönen Trainingstages war Sven Bender etwas faul und lief nicht die geforderten 100 Kilometer pro Trainingsspiel. Kloppo nahm den Jungen zur Seite, schrie: "Hast du 'nen Lattenschuß? Das hier is 'ne Vollgasveranstaltung!" Im nächsten Spiel lief Bender dann 200 Kilometer. Kult-Motivator Kloppo!

Kult-Fußballehrer Kloppo wurde vor einem BVB-Heimspiel mal gefragt, wie er die Atmosphäre im Stadion fände. Kloppo nahm mal wieder kein Blatt vor den Mund: "Einfach geil!" Einfach Kloppo, sagen wir!

Vor einem Spiel gegen Real Madrid wurde Kloppo nach den Qualitäten des Gegners gefragt. Da mußte der Sprüchepapst nicht lange nachdenken: "Real is'n Brett!" Bewundernde Zuhörer allenthalben.

Vor dem Duell mit dem FC Bayern, einem Team mit "brutaler Qualität" (Kloppo), forderte Kult-Kloppo Jürgen Klopp von seiner Mannschaft "brutale Bereitschaft" ein. Das Spiel ging dann 1:1 aus. Kloppo nach der Partie: "Daß Lewa noch den Ausgleich macht, war brutal wichtig!" Top-Analyse à la Kloppo.

Einmal verletzte sich Kevin Großkreutz schwer im Adduktorenbereich. Kloppo mitfühlend: "Das ist brutal für den Kevin." Als Großkreutz wieder gesund war, lief er wieder die gewohnten 150 Kilometer pro Spiel und schoß sogar ein Tor. "Das ist richtig geil", erklärte Wort-Genie Kloppo auf der anschließenden Pressekonferenz den darob begeisterten Journalisten.

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>select all mountains
>only picture of hills

>select all hills
>only picture of mountains

I seriously hope Watzke will pay for that mistake.

Should just hire matze knopp dressed as klopp as coach to please watzke.

Favre won't get the seat.
His current club doesn't want him to leave.

And Watzke wants a little bitch as coach who does everything the way he wants.

Dortmund won't even reach EL ranks next season.

>>76219115
You must feel insulted, mountain man

>>76219115
of course it's a swiss who gets auitistic about geographic elevations.

>sack the best coach the club ever had and won the first title in half a decade
Dortmund doesn't deserve the Taktikgott anyway. Fucking retards, enjoy Weinzierl.

BVB will get Funkel

>>76219084
can't wait until RBL replaces this incompetent shit club as Germany's #2.

>>76218848
Who are Dortmund gonna get? English media has been loving Tuchel for last 2 years saying he's gonna take over from Wenger

>muh menschliche Probleme
looks like someone forgot what being midtable trash feels like, they'll find out soon enough though.

>Der BVB legt großen Wert auf die Feststellung, dass es sich bei der Ursache der Trennung keinesfalls um eine Meinungsverschiedenheit zwischen zwei Personen handelt. Das Wohl des Vereins Borussia Dortmund, den viel mehr als nur der sportliche Erfolg ausmacht, wird grundsätzlich immer wichtiger sein als Einzelpersonen und mögliche Differenzen zwischen diesen.

What do they mean with "Wohl des Vereins?"

>>76219341
Wohl des Vereins = Klopp-shitters like Sahin and Schmelzer keep playing in the CL because muh Echte Liebe Vollgas la.

>>76219341
All the big/old players minus Auba hate Tuchel.

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>"Borussia Dortmund steht für Intensität, Echtheit, Bindungskraft und Ambition. Alles bei uns ist von einer intensiven Wirkung gekennzeichnet. Unser Stadion ist das Epizentrum, hier entlädt sich die geballte Energie, die dem BVB innewohnt. In den Herzen unserer Fans haben wir einen festen Platz, ihre bedingungslose Treue trägt uns seit über 100 Jahren durch gute und schlechte Zeiten. Wir haben den unbedingten Willen, ihnen etwas zurückzugeben. Durch sportliche Erfolge und durch das Versprechen, dass wir so bleiben, wie wir immer waren: geradlinig, offen, kämpferisch und fest im Dortmunder Boden geerdet."

Honigstein: "Leverkusen. 100 per cent."

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>>76219261
pls let this happen

Does Watzke really think that all these young talents are joining the club because of MUH atmosphere and not just because they want to develop under tuckel?

>>76219341
>keinesfalls um eine Meinungsverschiedenheit zwischen zwei Personen handelt.
>implying

>>76219360
so basically bench players

mkhitaryan's wish to extend his contract only under the condition that tuchel stays the coach makes suddenly sense now

Sky Sports News HQVerified account @SkySportsNewsHQ 1m1 minutes ago

BREAKING: @BVB accept €40m bid from @FCBayern for midfielder Julian Weigl

>>76219437
>buyernwinslol

>>76219188
Kalle pls

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>>76219437
I wouldn't be suprised anymore if this happens during the next 3 years.

The Tuchel vs Watzke shit started with the attack on the BVB bus

>Tuchel says they didn't want to play and were all shocked
>Watzke said there was no problem and that the team is ready
>Tuchel got mad over that backstab
>Later Watzke went like ''Why are Sahin and Schmelzer not playing every game!!!''
>Tuchel be like ''Because they are shit''

So is this actually /bundes/?

RB Leipzig are on the verge of signing Galatasaray's Bruma for €18m.

Zorniger and Brondby are On a shopping trip to Leipzig's surplus store, where they are eyeing up Bellot and Quaschner

>>76219522
>RB Leipzig

is there anything more disgusting than advert clubs

disgrace to the beautiful game

>>76219391
if they replace Tuchel with some bundes shitter like Stöger Dembele will be gone before Watzke can say "Schmelzer"

>>76219488
So Dortmund are real but without the success

He's like their Perez

>sell team best CB, best CM and best AM
>buy bunch of young talents + fat guy
>why we are below bayern? WTF sack this hack!

>>76219544
Red Bull aren't robbing you of the ability to go see and support your local club every weekend.

>>76219564
I could see them go for something in between. A "name", but not in the super elite tier.
Someone like Frank de Boer who will finish fifth and then get sacked.

>>76219488

Didn't it start last season when Watzke told Tuchel that not all 3 players (Hummels, Gundogan and Mkhitaryan) wouldn't leave the club?

>>76219522
What about the Rani Khedira to Brondbyernes Idrætsforening rumour?

>>76219544
What are you talking about. The whole city wanted to have a BuLi club so it's just fair that they got their very own Rasenballsport club. *sips on his RED BULL™" can* aahhh yes

>>76219488

It all started with the beef between Tuchel and their chef scout Mislintat. Tuchel and Dortmund going separate ways is the only logical consequence of a alienation between him and the club that started almost at the beginning of his tenure. Both sides are equally responsible for this escalation so calm down everybody and carry on.

>>76219571
nah it's purely because of muh feelings. Tuchel has no mercy with shit players and bullies them every training.

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>>76219564
pls DELET

>>76219598
Gone quiet

>Taschentuchel gets fired
>Watzke is now satan in the german media
>Dortmund will lose their relevancy in the upcoming years because muh """"Echte Liebe""""

And all this on my birthday,what a time to be alive

>>76219628
happy birthday anon

>>76219628
“I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”

>>76219564
is there even a single affordable coach on the market who could attract young players?

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>>76219628

>spending his birthday on a mongolian pet advice forum

>>76218848
So who will replace him?

Julian Nagelsmann?

>>76219667
Nagelsmann already rejected a Dortmund offer,he'll be coming to Bayern after Ancelotti.

Favre will replace Tuchel.

>>76219667

Favre. 100%.

>>76219360
But why?

>>76219667
He already declined but is available next year. Buyern have an eye on him too and there is a high chance that he's going to be Ancelotti sucessor.
According to media reports, Favre is the most likely.

>>76219601
This is what a good coach should do, no?

>>76219690
probably because the old ones are missing jürgen "kult-kloppo" klopp

>>76219628
Happy birthday Hans

>>76219712
kind of

Watzke actually fired Tuchel because he couldnt stand his awful hairline

Bitch should have gotten some transplants like Klopp

>>76219744
tuchel is always in a hurry

couldn't even invest 2 minutes per day

>>76219522
>>76219766

>firing the manager with the highest point average in the history of your club and the one who wins you your first trophy in five years

really makes one ponder

He did a great job winning the dfb pokal. Why would the boards fire him?

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>>76219877

Dude, when will you faggots finally understand that his firing had other reasons than sporting success?

>>76219901
the impotant players don't get along with him
the board doesn't get along with him
the chief scout doesn't get along with him
basically everyone in the club except the new guys doesn't get along with him

>>76219901
Because Watze won't hold onto anyone with a bigger ego than himself. What he needs is a bitch who sucks his cock

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>>76219918
>Old meme "echte liebe" players who are well over their prime don't like him
>New promising players, who get more time on the field and develop well like him
>Better fire him and all ambitions for the next 3 years

>>76219919

As if Klopp was known for his little ego you stupid fucker.

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Next coacn of Dortmund. You heard it first here

>>76219919
Yeah blame Watzke and completely ignore players like Sahin, Schmelzer or Reus basically openly starting a mutiny against Tuchel

>>76219939
Well that's the question. Dembele and Weigl might like Tuchel but how long are they gonna stay? Meanwhile Reus, Sokratis etc have been in the club for a while and are more likely to stay. You can't just tell them "I don't give a fuck if you have a problem, we have better players anyway", then look like an idiot when the new guys leave two years later and you managed to get rid of the old guys too. It's a risk.

>>76219918
Hopefully favre will soon take over. He managed mochengladbach quite well. I think he and young prospects such as mor, weigl, passlack and pulisic can get long easily

>>76219379
Good for both

>>76219994
Tuchel is too good for Leverkusen and the loser mentality that is so deeply engrained in the club is gonna kill him. He should go abroad.

>>76219973
but you also look like an idiot if you base your decision on a group of players who mostly don't play

>>76220025
It wasn't based just on the players though, the players not supporting him was just the final straw. He is hated by the whole club apparently, not just by Watzke. Like he refuses to talk to or even be in the same room with their chief scout who discovered 90% of their good players. If I had to choose between that guy and a guy who signs Schürrle for 30 million every season I would have my doubts too.

>>76218860
he implied muslims might be responsible for the bombing during their CL game

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>>76219904
>firing the person in charge of delivering sporting success for reasons unrelated to sporting success

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I present you the new trainer of BVB

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I'll miss him. He was a great coach. Also Schürrlel on suicide watch.

What the hell, I thought this guy was doing better than Klopp? Who's linked to be the new manager?

>>76220052
>who discovered 90% of their good players

Then again you could ask yourself if these players really didn't just signed for the club because they wanted to play under Tuchel. Whatever the media says Mislintat deffo didn't discover Dembele for example. I'm pretty sure Dembele was on every big club's radar and he could've earned way more money if he went to England. Mor even admitted that Tuchel was one reason he wanted to join Dortmund.

>He is hated by the whole club apparently
For a club that uses the slogan "echte liebe" it's kind of impressive that they didn't look out for a mediator.

And no, I didn't understood the schürrle deal either.

>>76219941
Klopp is a born leader and takes over naturally. Watzke knew his place around him but never got upset because Klopp is a fun guy who gets along with people.

>>76220123
If that happens Götze will pull an Enke

>>76219918
>the impotant players don't get along with him
No, the important players all seem quite chill around him. It's shitters like Sahin and Schmelzer who don't like him.

>>76220173
good != important all the time

>>76220149
>if these players really didn't just signed for the club because they wanted to play under Tuchel.
The scout has been working for Dortmund for a while now, some players he discovered in the past include Kagawa and Lewandowski, so I doubt that argument applies here. I also doubt a guy like Dembele goes to Dortmund because they are managed by the world famous manager Thomas Tuchel from Mainz. Good players go there to get playing time on a high level and make the next step towards a great club, with or without Tuchel. Near the end of his tenure Klopp might have reached this sort of reputation where players want to come also for him due to his emergence in the CL but Tuchel?

What the fuck happened?

An no, I won't accept the Watzke meme as an "explanation".

>>76220173
yeah this
>>76220185
these football team squads aren't really different from any place where many people congregate, you have opinion leaders and followers and people with more influence. it doesn't really matter if someone is the best player for them to gain a lot of influence. there are many examples of players being important in squads despite not being important on the field due to their intelligence or social skills. a second goalkeeper can be a very important person in team dynamics despite never playing.

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>>76220236
non-meme answer?


didnt play PuliGOD enough

>>76220223
Dortmund Klopp and Tuchel are draws for good young players as they know they will play a lot of matches rather than be a sub or loaned out.

>>76220236
See
>>76219599
For the most rational answer. Basically Tuchel isn't much of a people person, and will do whatever it takes to get results.

>>76220000
nice digits.

Going to arsenal, digits confirm!

>>76220223
Tuchel is not afraid to throw young players in and rewards good form though. There is no hierarchy with him. Weigl immediately became a starter which is what makes faggots like Sahin upset.

gooooooood morning

>>76220236
Tuchel doesn't "get" the club and the club doesn't "get" Tuchel, that's all. They aren't on the same page about almost everything and therefore it just doesn't make any sense to continue like that. It's like when you have gf and the sex is good but when you aren't fucking you are fighting about everything.

>>76220266
Pulisic played like 40/50 games.

>>76220305
the pussy game was ridiculous

>>76220305
hello dude

>>76220307
And then once you get a boring mid table bitch you kinda start to miss the crazy one.

>>76220326
twas a joke. hardly any managers would have given him a shot

his problem was defense

>>76219298
You don't have to wait, look at the league table.

>>76218977
appreciate the fanfic

>>76220307
>It's like when you have gf and the sex is good but when you aren't fucking you are fighting about everything.
Just come home only at night, what's the problem?

>>76220304
That's definitely true but agains, it's Tuchel escalating things due to his personality and lack of tact. He should just have nominated Sahin for the bench instead of Rode and nobody would have done anything. I'm pretty sure he didn't even bring Sahin into the squad for the game to piss him off.

It's like when van Gaal had a beef with Hoeness back at Bayern. Van Gaal was an amazing manager and still today Bayern are profitting from his short tenure but when Honess planned to bring in Neuer, van Gaal was so pissed off he insisted on playing and building up the shitty Kraft as GK despite knowing better simply to piss Hoeness off, which eventually cost him his job. People like LVG or Tuchel just cannot stand down and not even at least superficially accept authority unlike someone like Hitzfeld for example.

>>76220223
>he discovered in the past include Kagawa and Lewandowski

I know that, that's why I said it's kinda impressive that these people, who run a club btw, aren't able to figure out their problems like adults

>I also doubt a guy like Dembele goes to Dortmund because they are managed by the world famous manager Thomas Tuchel from Mainz

Tuchel already worked one season for Dortmund. Plus the hype that surrounded Dembele was already unreal way before he was hired by Dortmund.

>Good players go there to get playing time on a high level and make the next step towards a great club.

Yes and even more intelligent players go to clubs were they can get playing time AND get coached by good coaches, because the influence a coach is having on your abitlities is still crucial at that age.

Just look at the Kroos brothers or at Ekici and Gündogan who were considered as equally as talented when they both played for Nürnberg.

>>76219950
>shithin, lelzer and a part time player
Kek

>>76220123
Would make me feel very conflicted.
t. Dumbers

>>76218848
Did he fuck Watzke's wife or something?

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>>76218848

i liked tuchel but maybe is leading qualities are bad.
however i don't hope favre is the next one because i really dislike this fuckface.

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>>76220397
>van Gaal was so pissed off he insisted on playing and building up the shitty Kraft as GK despite knowing better simply to piss Hoeness off, which eventually cost him his job
absolute madman

>>76218860
>What happened?
Dividends went down

Tuchel is a disgusting little goblin and dirtier than even a shitter like Watzke can handle.
Wouldn't be surprised to hear he beats his wife.

so who will replace him? I heard farve denied bvb

>>76219712
not at muh Echte Liebe Dortmund faggoteria

>>76220397
Of course he didn't. Just watching his press conferences and interviews you can tell he's doing his best to give everyone deserving of it playing time. Sometimes he almost sounds apologetic when he had to take another player because it fit his tactics better.

The real question would be why Rode has to take it and not Sahin? Or why Tuchel has to accept authority but the players don't? Sahin was gone the moment Real came calling and since he returned he's been injured 90% of the time. Why does he hold any power whatsoever?

>>76220457
get a load of this little pussy cuck

>>76220461
I'm pretty sure it's going to be Favre, where did you hear that he denied BVB? I know that he denied rumors about it, but not fully denied the fact that he will be going there.

>>76220223
> I also doubt a guy like Dembele goes to Dortmund because they are managed by the world famous manager Thomas Tuchel from Mainz.

"Im Sommer wechselte Dembele von Stade Rennes zum BVB und unterschrieb bis 2021 – mit ein Grund dafür war Tuchel: "Ich habe sehr früh mit ihm gesprochen. Zu diesem Zeitpunkt hatte ich erst zwei oder drei Tore für Rennes geschossen, aber er erzählte mir, dass er mich haben will. Nach dieser Ansprache habe ich zugesagt, dass ich in Dortmund unterschreiben würde – egal was noch passiert.""

http://www.sport1.de/fussball/bundesliga/2017/04/borussia-dortmund-ousmane-dembele-schwaermt-von-thomas-tuchel

>>76220405
>these people, who run a club btw, aren't able to figure out their problems like adults
who said they aren't? they did figure out and solve their problem now, didn't they? not every time things can just work out and everyone hugs and says "we'll try it once more". sometimes you just have to say "ok it's fucked".

>Tuchel already worked one season for Dortmund
yeah but generally the manager is just a vera small part, these players are scouted for years and they are also wooed for years by people the manager doesn't even know. they don't just look at the papers "oh dembele scored 10 goals this season, he seems good, let's call him". they have contact with these people for longer than managers are in office these days.

>Just look at the Kroos brothers or at Ekici and Gündogan who were considered as equally as talented when they both played for Nürnberg.
while I think a good manager is important for a player's development, it's not the only or biggest reason. personality, luck, health etc are all more important. manchester united now want to buy perisic for an absurd sum, when he was at dortmund klopp didn't get along with him at all and sold him after a year, does that make klopp a bad manager?

>>76220504
You just got fired, Thomas. Lay off the shitposting for a while, good lord.

>>76220508
>yfw Hasenhüttl announced as Dortmund coach next week

>>76220444
Favre is an even bigger autist and more complicated to deal with than Tuchel. This decision will just lead to disaster.

>>76220502
>Why does he hold any power whatsoever?
Because the players respect him and look up to him, that's all. That's reality, doesn't matter that he's slow and sold out Dortmund, the fact is: he can influence opinion and mobilize them, Tuchel refuses to acknowledge these things. Again, if Tuchel didn't alienate the board and the entire club, he might've won this conflict against Sahin or Schmelzer. He kicked out Kuba, Großkreutz, Subotic (rightfully!) and got away with it because the relationship hadn't detoriated too far by then.

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The villain won.


I think Tuchel just was too pragmatic and objective, he did not care about feelings of old players like sahin, which is the right thing to do, but these players have too big egos so they go to Schwatzke and media and complain, i am 100% sure that Sahin was one of the anonymus quotes for the dirt article against tuchel.
maybe tuchel could habe handled it better, but fuck you schmelzer and sahin, be glad that you even were allowed to play, you both suck.

>>76220565
First it's just Mislintat's fault
Then it's just Watzke's fault
Now it's just Sahin's fault

But it's never Tuchels' fault

>>76220565
>i am 100% sure that Sahin was one of the anonymus quotes for the dirt article against tuchel
After the cup win I thought the same. Only a massive cunt would complain about irrelevant shit in a moment of joy.

>>76220523
If the board were adults and not blown up football personalities, they would have told the players to shut the fuck up and act professional. How can you even criticize a manager for not playing a certain player, when you won the match? Obviously his tactics worked out and maybe sahin is just way past it (like most of the klopp crew)?

>>76220506
http://www.nicematin.com/football/on-devrait-bientot-en-savoir-plus-sur-lavenir-de-lentraineur-de-logc-nice-lucien-favre-141396
I read this article with eng translation by someone though.

The only thing you can blame Watzke for is preparing this sacking through the media for far too long to ease the fall for himself, that was just sad and uncalled for even if it is an understandable action. Tuchel is not going to suffer from it though, he's going out as the winner from this affair but he'll have to make sure to not burn every bridge again at his next club. If he keeps his autism in check he can be a great manager.

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what exactly did sahin said?


also lmaoing at shareholder butthurt

>>76220600
>the result is all that matters
So, taking that logic, Streichsbier did everything right when he the Nazi U20 won 3-2 against Vanuatu?

>>76220600
yeah good luck leading a club where unhappy players are told to just shut the fuck up

>>76220577

last sentence i wrote that tuchel could maybe handled it better, but what happened there has nothing to do with "echte liebe", tuchel was attacked by the media while in an important stage of the season and schwatzke did nothing to help him, fucking disgusting.

>>76220642
b-but it works in Football Manager

Apart from Tuchel's personality flaws people ignore how
1. in two years Tuchel has not managed to organise an acceptable defense, Dortmund have literally been unable to defend since 2014 still under Klopp and Tuchel has acheived nothing to fix it but made it worse.
2. Dortmund's football has been detoriating for the last year whch was often concealed by individual brilliance, determination, luck and Obama scoring shitloads. They have regressed as a team, why don't people address that?

Why do Dortmund fans pretend that coming 3rd after Leipzig was a great result? Now that Tuchel is out he is an angel although almost no player supported him.

>>76220650
>schwatzke did nothing to help him, fucking disgusting.
it was watzke who orchestrated the media campaign in the first place

and "echte liebe" is a slogan referring to the fans and not the employees. you know how some people love cars, that doesn't mean the guy in bangladesh who welds them together loves cars.

>>76220672
LEIPZIG HAS UNLIMITED MONEY!!
Dont you know? They shouldnt be allowed, its not fair!!!

How would you guys describe his style with Dortmund? At first the discriptions were "Klopp but a bit more possession". How has that been the last season and a half? I saw him experimenting a lot with formations?

>>76220688
last season: lots of attacking football, more possession than klopp but also very aggressive
this season: let's hope dembele has a moment of brilliance and obama scores, also terrible 3 at the back with ginter with failed all the time.

>>76220607
We need a Frenchie to verify

I'm still amazed at how shortly after their greatest victory within the last five years they dismissed Tuchel. Watzke and him must have absolutely HATED each other and I bet Watzke couldn't barely wait to finally pull the trigger. What a bitch ass soap opera of a club. Muh Echte Liebe. LEL.

>>76220688
fast, attacking. not afraid to risk/experiment with selection and formation. no matter what though, shoddy at the back

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>>76220670

dortmund has not regressed, but the defence is bad yes. this is why they signed toprak for example you can't only blame this on tuchel.

>>76220688

he relied on fast players like dembele and obama, which is nearly the only thing you can do at dortmund now, buyerns tactic was often similiar with ribery and robben.
his defense was bad but with this players it is hard to form a good defense.
possession was important for him but this season it rarely led to anything good.
i was looking for the season to end already 4 months ago, because there needs to be work done with this team, the next manager will earn what tuchel seeded

>>76220732
>Wait after the important matches to sort out contract issues
Pretty professional from both Watzke and Tuchel

>>76220672
>some vocal ape like Sahin complains
>Tuchel tells him to fuck off and shitters like Schmelzer jump to the rescue
>"almost no player supported him"
you're fucking dumb m8. Aubameyang, Dembele, Guerreiro, Weigl, Bartra, Pulisic are carrying this shit club. Schmelzer and Sahin don't.

open letter from schwatzke

http://www.bvb.de/News/Uebersicht/Offener-Brief-von-Hans-Joachim-Watzke-an-alle-BVB-Fans

>>76220769
Aubameyang is gone, Dembele won't be there longer than 2 years. Guerreiro wouldn't even be at the club if Tuchel had his way because he was brought in by the guy Tuchel hates like hell and wanted to get kicked out of the club. Schmelzer played like 300 games for Dortmund, say what you want about him being a shit player but that applies to carrying a club far more.

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>Muh Echte LELbe
>Muh bomb attack

How reddit can a club be...

>>76220808
and how does that refute my point? it doesn't, because you are fucking retarded. Don't talk to me ever again you brainlet.

>>76218848
is this really all that surprising?

>le too intelligent to win trophies man

>le lose to Klopp's Liverpool man

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>mfw Tuchel fucked all their wifes

>>76220829
>le too intelligent to win trophies man
apologize right now

he managed to win Reus a trophy, what other manager did that, HUH?

talk lasted 20 minutes, but all the weeks schwatzke said the talks are "ergebnisoffen" (result open).

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>>76220832
>Tuchel + Bruno Labaddia duo at next club incoming

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>"Wir alle analysieren unser Handeln selbstkritisch, niemand nimmt sich wichtiger als den Verein, niemand stellt persönliche Eitelkeiten über die Interessen von Borussia Dortmund."

Keep telling that to yourself, Schwatzke

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Leave Favre to me

>>76220840
damn, Tuchel actually managed to win something? I am shocked, but then it did take him all his effort and nearly dropped into the CL qualifying round

>>76220869
>le "leave the club at the first opportunity then come back crying and demand to play although being permaded man"
seriously fuck him

>>76220886
>betrays his country of birth
>betrays his club
>betrays his manager

Is Sahin even good? Haven't heard about him since he flopped at Madrid

>>76220869
I would love to see Favre take a nice big shit on him and Schmelzer.

lvg to bvb

>>76220897
Since he came back he had one good season under Klopp when Gündogan was ded, apart from that he was either injured or shit.

>>76220790
>Klopp mention
>RBL mention
>KGaA mentioned twice
bingo

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>>76218848
the man Dortmund needs right now

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I've made a huge mistake

>>76220945

again

>>76220899

He used to be one of the best defensive midfielders in Europe for a short amount of time. Wonder what happened to him on the way. Should have never left Dortmund in the
first place.

>>76220899

Everyone likes the treason but no one likes the traitor. They'll discovers this soon.

>>76219106
lel

>>76218848
kys nobody cares

why did he get sacked? didn't he break the record of the most points for 2nd place team?

>>76221047

this was the season before.
he also got the first trophy in 5 years for dirtmund.
but boss said he isn't loyal, trustworthy and has communication problems.

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do you think he's evil enough to command the attack on the bvb bus to start all of this?

>>76220670
BVB had a better defense than Bayern in the second half of last season.
The problem is Hummels left.

>>76221098
Watzke is actually unironically the hero in all of this, taking all the blame and hatred to be projected upon himself despite being innocent. Punished Aki.

>>76221068
so what happened this season? i remember hearing something about watzke being a little bitch and leaking bad stories about tuchel to the press

>>76221110

hummels is getting old soon, he was always slow but he will get slower.
he was a really great defender but dortmund needed new defenders anyways i hope they buy some promising.
lets see how toprak will do.

>>76221110
>BVB had a better defense than Bayern in the second half of last season.
Poop Bayern were always slacking in the second half of the season, partly also due to injuries. Tuchel's defense still wasn't good. Case in point: Liverpool.

>>76221125

this is right, he did it so it would be easier to fire him.
was a real dick move.
maybe the decision was right to end tuchels contract but the way dortmund did it was fucking disgusting, especially if you think about the attack on the bus, there could have been dead.

>>76221140
They still had the best defence during that time period and Liverpool was just some VollgasFußball Kloppo match luck.

>>76221159
where do you reckon tuchel is going next?

>>76221174
Erzgebirge Aue

>>76221174

maybe leverkusen, nobody knows.

are Dortmund going to go back to being midtable again?

>>76218959

>Loving a multi million stock company. Literally worse than Applefags.

>>76221203
back 2 mainz

>>76221206
found the poorfag neet

>>76221199
not arminia bielefeld?

>>76221203
will voller be able to handle him?

Time for Matthäus to step up

>>76221262
i don't know but leverkusen is easier to handle for tuchel.

>indian
so THIS is the real bundescric, a gift from heavens

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>>76221304

no, we need pic related.

>>76221401
kys

>>76221420
don't (You) it

>>76221427
okay

>>76221098
Look at this dude. He looks like a villain.

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>>76221469
yes

>>76221098
The constant bauer cucking finally broke him.

you now remember götze

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>>76221633
When did it all go so wrong?

>>76221657
He started to believe he was Messi.

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>mfw a dirtmund shareholder murmurs "m-muh echte l-l-liebe" while checking his portfolio

tuchel is a great manager too, sham club

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>>76221657
I blame pep

you now remember Dirtmud

>>76221768
i blame burgers

With Tuchel gone, PulisGOD will definitely be leaving next season. Maybe join Klopp at Liverpool

>>76221913
Liverpool and Spurs would be great options for him. With Obama leaving, there's no way Dortmund will be CL contenders

>>76221913
will be fun seeing him on the bench of stoke in 5 years

>>76221913
Crazier things have happened

>>76222012
>lewanmemeski leaves
>that's it dortmund is finished

>gundogan, hummels and mikhi
>okay no way they can compete now

dortmund just can't be stopped, they're literally scouting the next batch of GOAT's as we speak

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Is it, dare I say it
>his time?

>>76222117
Could he get Bayern relegated?

>>76218848

Goodbye TT. You will be missed, when we slip back to place 5 without you (unless we get someone actually good and not some meme Favre).

For anyone who doesnt know what actually was the real reason for TT being fired:

>players started to protest against Tuchel's decisions
>players group together and protest against him benching certain players
>players decide its time to talk to managment about it
>management says "listen to the coach"
>some players (anonymous) leaked this info to the Bavarian press
>Management and TT go on essentially communication block
>after the pokal final they sit together and carefully explain to TT that they appreciate what he has done for the club, but the club needs "peace and calm" and cant afford public disagreement, which has as the logical conclusion only him leaving the club.

He didnt get fired, it was a mutual agreement.

>>76220790
>Der BVB hatte mit Thomas Tuchel zwei erfolgreiche Jahre, in denen die sportlichen Ziele erreicht wurden. Allerdings haben wir – Michael Zorc als Sportdirektor und ich – uns in dieser Zeit in der Zusammenarbeit mit dem Trainerteam auch aufgerieben. Es geht bei der Wahrnehmung von Führungsverantwortung, und da unterscheidet sich Borussia Dortmund letztlich keineswegs von jedem anderen Sportverein oder Unternehmen, nicht ausschließlich um das Ergebnis. Es geht immer auch um grundlegende Werte wie Vertrauen, Respekt, Team- und Kommunikationsfähigkeit, um Authentizität und Identifikation. Es geht um Verlässlichkeit und Loyalität.

This is why Dortmund will never challenge Bayern on the long run. Hoeneß and Rummenigge are narcistic borderline retards, but they never would have pulled off such a move, when they are satisfied with the results the club is achieving.

>>76222154

>but they never would have pulled off such a move, when they are satisfied with the results the
club is achieving.

They LITERALLY do this every year to players and the occasional coach like Guardiola.

>>76222149
Football clubs are a perverse environment where the manager can be undermined so easily by the staff.

>>76222154
>who is Louis van Gaal?

>>76222090
that was the time when dortmund had decent coaches

>>76222149
obligatory
>we

>>76222090
I was mostly joking. I feel that Pulisic will stay and become a club icon

>>76222149
>>players started to protest against Tuchel's decisions
and they were right, he almost lost them the cup final against fucking frankfurt because of his meme tactics. I would have gotten mad as well if my coach brought in Ginter every fucking time. I'm surprised they didn't give Ginter the sock treatment from Full Metal Jacket

>>76222177
guardiola's contract expired

>>76222185
they were not satisfied with van gaal's results

>>76218977
>it's the german-hating kangaroo posting again
XD

>>76222214
>they were not satisfied with van gaal's results
initially they were and they still credit him with modernizing their team
all coaches after him built on the system he implemented
he could have won more but he the board withheld support for nearly the entire last season which made things complicated

>>76222260
>initially

That's the point.

>all coaches after him built on the system he implemented

That brings me to another difference between these clubs.
If Watzke and Zorc were actually smart, they would hire a coach, who plays a similar system. The only realistic solution would be Bosz or maybe Laudrup if they want to be fancy.
But it's going to be Favre if the rumours are right.

>>76222211

Those meme tactics won the Pokal, 2 unbeaten games against Real Madrid, first in the group phase, 2nd best place of all time, best continuous unbeaten record at home, 3rd place and a young and exciting team after 3 pillars left.

TT might not be very charismatic like Klopp, but hes a great coach.

>>76219106
TOP KEK DU HURRENSOHN ICH HATTE GERADE TEE IM MUND HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

>>76222361
>TT might not be very charismatic like Klopp

I somehow have the feeling that the whole club is still klopp drunk and the whole staff fails to get along with coaches who aren't "kloppesk". That's propably why the young and new players have no problem with Tuchel.

>>76222211
His meme tactics made him the most successful manager in Dortmund history.

And about Ginter. What did you expect? Tuchel wanted Toprak last season but they didn't want to pay the money. They did well enough despite shitters like Ginter and Schmelzer in the defense.

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Not the Taktik-Tuchel

;_;

>>76219106
based titanic

>>76222361
>>76222448
Klopp stopped being funny and charismatic around 2012-13 tßh
The players were visibly sick of him in his last season
t. lifelong BVB fan

>>76222468

>They did well enough despite shitters like Ginter and Schmelzer in the defense.

Schmelzer was Dortmund's best defensive player after Bartra died. Ginter however needs to go. He has had enough chances.

>>76222472

>Superhero team entrance dance

>>76222448
btw

If he really goes to Leverkusen, I woudn't been surprised if nobody has a problem with his personality.

>>76222468
>Toprak

According to my google skills BVB signed him at the beginning of February. Why would they sign a player Tuchel desires, if they already knew how complicated the whole relationship between the staff and Tuchel is? Shouldn't they already have known at that point that they want to cancel his contract

>>76218848
has Watzke completely fucking lost it?

>tfw too intelligent and tactical for Dortmund

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>when you celebrate your third goal in front of Klopp and he beats you 4-3
>fired from your job a year later

deserved it

>>76222533

Tuchel was supposed to go to Bayern after Guardiola, but he signed for Dortmund 1 year before he left.

Customers are still mad about that.

>>76222664
why are you quoting me?

Bayern should get him

Carlo "le play every player in the actual position and just hope for the best" Ancelotti can't even be called a coach, yet a lone a tactician

>>76222658
>Klopp's visit really made him think

>>76222694
>him

um...stop misgendering people

>>76218860
Germany just invaded Poland

>>76222709
But Klopp is male.

>>76222149
>bench certain players
>win trophy
Really makes me think

>>76220071
>posting a monster girl and not continuing

>>76218848
Are Dortmund now confirmed as the scummiest club on the planet behind Liverpoo and glasgow Rangers?

>mfw retards arguing with me about how "muhh teuchel is good, givehim chance xDDDD" BTFO

suck it nerds

Apparently Favre will be next Dortmund coach, there were rumors since a month now, fell bad for Nice.

>>76223446
They'll be renamed to Angry now.

But seriously, that's what you get for hiring Favre. And Dortmund will regret it as well soon enough.