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RIP TT
Congratulations to Wolfsburg, I guess
Commiserations to Braunschweig
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>Brooks for ~19m€ to Wolfsburg
wew
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so why is TT ded?
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>>76219895
Would be the transfer record for a yank
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According to Kicker, BVB have agreed terms with Lucien Favre. Still need to negotiate a deal with Nice because Favre has a contract to 2019.
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>>76219905
http://www.sport1.de/fussball/bundesliga/2017/05/borussia-dortmund-statement-zur-trennung-von-thomas-tuchel
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>>76219905
muh feelings
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come on op it's time for bundescric
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>>76219935
>>76219927
>swapping a highly talented turbo autists for another slightly less talented one
>while putting more pressure on the new guy than on any coach before
As much as I like Favre, what the fuck did BvB mean by this?
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>>76220250
kys
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>>76220250
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>>76220261
dont talk to me
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I guess this means Leipzig will finish above Dortmund again.
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>>76220257
>what the fuck did BvB mean by this?
they're retarded.
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DAs ist wie bei LÖW und dem VFB damals. Und Favre, omg - der ist kein TOP Trainer für SO eine Mannschaft. Ciao BVB, ich kauf dann mal put Scheine...
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>>76220280
ehehe
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>>76220282
leave then
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>>76220292
almost certainly with Aubameyang AND Tuchel leaving.
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>>76219935
>>76220030
this doesnt explain anything
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>>76220355
it's typical EPL-tier locker room drama.
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guess it's six years in a row then for buyern next season
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>>76220311
>ich kauf dann mal put Scheine

top kek
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Gelson Fernandes has almost signed with Frankfurt, and hopes the deal can be finalised by this afternoon.
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>wins the most competitive title in germany
>gets fired
lel
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http://www.bvb.de/News/Uebersicht/Offener-Brief-von-Hans-Joachim-Watzke-an-alle-BVB-Fans
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>>76220491
hello
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>>76220335
>>76220522
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>>76220522
Hello and good afternoon
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>>76220553
afternoon
what's good
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>>76220564
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>>76220574
solberg disgusts me
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>>76220678
Ya same
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Post yfw Tuchel goes to Arsenal and Dortmund signs Wenker.
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>Dass sich die Wege von Borussia Dortmund und Thomas Tuchel dennoch trennen, stößt bei Teilen unserer Fans auf Kritik und Unverständnis. Das können wir, die Verantwortlichen in der Geschäftsführung und in den Gremien von Verein und KGaA, nachvollziehen.
you cant make this shit up
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>>76220685
i can only recognize her and sipilä from the pic though, i have no idea who is the PM of sweden, denmark & iceland
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>>76219905
Autism and falling out with the head scout, and then the CEO.

The Monaco attack thing just brought the sour relationship into the public eye.
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>>76220710
>wir können das Unverständnis über unsere Entscheidung nachvollziehen
NRW education strikes again
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+++ #Schanzer Neuzugang +++ Marcel #Gaus kommt ablösefrei von @Rote_Teufel & unterschreibt einen 3-Jahres-Vertrag! Herzlich willkommen
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>>76220828
Ingolstadt may no longer be discussed in /bundestran/ sorry.
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y tho
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>>76220739
I could only recognise Löfven, Lökke and Solberg, but assumed the other two were Finland and Iceland.
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>>76220709
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>>76220837
That doesn't really work here since they will still play in the Bundesliga.
The thing in /epl/ is that the second tier has a completely different name.
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>>76219935
>>76220491

is taktiktuchel dare I say it /BESCHISSENWORDEN/ ?
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Brondby midfielder Lebogang Phiri has signed a 4 year deal with French Club Guingamp.
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Frankfurt are refurbishing the Commerzbank Arena. Adding 20,000 terraced places, almost rivalling the Westfalen.
This is also being done to boost the stadiums chances of being part of the German bid to host Euro 2024.
It will take the standing total to 27,800 at the Commerzbank Arena, which would be the most in any stadium in Germany.
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Imagine having a gf
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>>76220995
are there any pics on how this is going to look?
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>>76220934
Yes
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>>76221006
I have a few gifs if that counts.
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>>76221006
Kek
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>>76220809
???
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>>76221007
Don't think so. It sounds like it's still early in the process:
"Hans Joachim Paap, der Architekt des Stadions, geht davon aus, dass unter anderem durch Optimierung der Sitzplätze und den Ausbau von Stehplätzen im Oberrang Platz für insgesamt rund 61.000 Zuschauer geschaffen werden kann. Darunter sollen 20.000 Stehplätze für die
Heimfans sein. Derzeit sind es etwa 7000. Für internationale Spiele könnte die Kapazität durch bis zu 5300 neue Sitzplätze auf 54.000 Besucher erhöht werden.

Im Verlauf des Sommers sollen weitere Gespräche geführt werden, um die Umbauüberlegungen weiter zu entwickeln, kündigte Hellmann an. So müsse etwa geklärt werden, wer welche Kosten trägt. Nötig sei auch ein „geschlossenes Konzept“ zu Nutzung und Betrieb des Stadions."
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>BVB literally becoming Schalke now

Does this mean Schalke is on their way to become Nummer 1 im Revier?
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>>76221064
maybe
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>>76221059
Now watch them get relegated once Kovac's motivation gets old
>>76221064
Schalke are becoming some irrelevant midtable club that celebrates reaching EL quali
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>>76221075
whoops wrong pic. whatever
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>>76221075
so if kalle gets even more angery, does he transform into denmark?
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>>76221121
More like Austria but yeah
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>>76221006
;_;
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>>76221121
I'm scared now
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>>76221121
he puts on the razorhoeneb again and shitposts on bundes
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>>76221375
Ugh. Glad that this cunt left for good.
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First for mr wixa
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>>76221121
he'll turn into watzke
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>>76220934
/BESCHISSENWORDEN/ general >>76221568
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>>76221406
just a tactical retreat
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>>76221637
:(
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoYYiJGuvoc

hmmmm
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>>76222071
>dude haha Mario Gomez, we have so much heart and soul and aren't a filthy plastic club haha
embarrassing
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Come on man, it better be Favre. I always liked him and he actually speaks French.
I always wondered, does Swiss French sound as weird to other French speakers like their German sounds to us Germans? But I guess it does.
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Who /1860stayingup/ here?
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>>76219895
Why is Hertha selling him? Anyway, Brooks is a solid defender with upswing for him considering he's barely 24
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>>76222071
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>>76222071
he's also a filthy cheater
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>Brooks to Wolfsburg
Idk how to feel about this. Hertha was getting close to CL qualification for a second season while Wolfsburg was almost relegated
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>>76222243
20mil is pretty much for a player like him desu
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>>76219895
quelle?
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Did based Freiburg make it to the Europa League lads?
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Shit OP
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>>76222374
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/679133/artikel_fuer-20-mio-euro_brooks-vor-wechsel-nach-wolfsburg.html
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>>76222382
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>>76222331
it's too bad he seemed to be good there. gl to brooks.
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>>76222401
not official doe... ;(
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>>76222382
Yes they have, but I don't think they will actually manage to qualify.
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>>76222350
*is a lot
no idea what I was thinking there
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>>76222426
When the Kicker writes that the deal is as good as done, it's pretty much confirmed.
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>>76222200
it doesnt not. we say numbers differently but thats it
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the asymmetrical mowing lines in the Allianz Arena trigger me
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>>76222465
ok thx bby
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>>76222485
Do you even know how weird-ass your german sounds to us?
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goodbye
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-TUkHUSseQ
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>>76222510
Get me some Nutella please
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>>76222524
hehe
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>>76222506
i guess it sounds like a strong austrian accent sounds to us
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>tfw mommy went to ecenter 45 mins ago
>tfw she isnt back yet
>have to wait for her to bring me some cold and tasty big chocs
>tfw cant wait

hope she comes soon, dont want to eat my ice in HT
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>>76222490
but they're not?
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>>76222555
nice double trips
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Supporting 1860 tonight, while I try to survive this hell of humidity.
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>>76222543
offical power ranking of the strangest sounding accents (weirdness level growing from top to bottom):

>bayrisch

(gap)

>austrian (>inb4 there are lots of different austrian dialects/accents; it all sounds the same to german people

(power gap)

>oberbayrisch

(power gap of the size of a black hole)

>swiss german
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>>76222562

I think I did use the wrong word
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>Austrian football
I guess being called Pfizer Ried would actually be preferable to this
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REGENSBURG
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Reminder to NOT get your hopes up, 1860 WILL score twice.
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RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE RAINYCASTLE
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>>76222625
what about platt tho
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>>76222704

They have to.
2nd goal for Regensburg and it's pretty much over
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>>76222625
thanks
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>>76222720
They needed 3 against Kiel and GOT 3 against Kiel.
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>>76222727

2.
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>>76222737
Really? I thought they won 3-1, oops
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>>76222737
on aggregate
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>>76222753
>>76222769

first game was 0-0
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>>76222719
not an accent
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>>76222780
trolled you ;P
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>>76222780
Remembered that wrong, then. But I wouldn't even put some 3 goal memery beyond them.
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>>76222783
what is it then
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>>76222625
what about sächsisch though

t. Dumbers
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>>76222807
an adjective

also:
>dumbers
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>>76222807
dutch
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>>76222821
hello
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>>76222704
*thrice.
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nice save
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its ogre
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KEK

GET IN
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LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS LAIS
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Slammin' 50€ on 1860. Fight me.
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hahahahahahaha
Bayern II is losing
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>>76222888
BVB is playing?
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>Fünfachabstieg
LMAO
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>>76222719

Platt, dutch, danish and the scandi languages are actually pretty understandable if you consider them to be "different" languages whereby Bayrisch and the swiss/austrian dialects are still considered german.
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what did he just say "FUENFFACH ABSTIEG"?
can someone explain, i couldnt here it
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>ihr dreckigen Versager
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>ihr dreckigen versager
kek
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>>76222926
some U teams got relegated, therefore another U team gets relegated
if 1860 get relegated, 1860 II will get relegated as well
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Based Herrlich
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>>76222941
seriously? that's bs, why would they relegate them if they're not even in the same fucking tier
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who /granufink/ here
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>nächstes jahr wieder gegen Unterhaching
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>>76223002
*tisses on you*
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>1860 zurück ins Bayernstadion

top kek, enjoy löwencucks

Allianz Arena is finally ours!
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Platzsturm when?
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>>76223001
In germany reserve teams must be 2 leagues lower for some reason.
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>>76223040
>Bayernstadion
Grünwalder?
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>>76223040
Fuck the Arroganz Arena. Münchener Olympia Stadion is superior in every possible way.
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>tfw could not be at the stadium today
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>>76223080
it was Bayern's stadium until the 70s
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>>76223100
>t. Nostalgiecuck
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>>76223105
does Hitzlsperger get aroused by such a flat, manly chest?
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>>76223105
>quickly buying a scarf after Jahn scored

fucking bandwagoner
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>>76223124
Fanshop is closed after 6
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>>76223122
no

>>76223105
Could Jessie beat up Hitzlsperger?
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>>76223154
>Could Jessie beat up Hitzlsperger?
Hot
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>>76223154
she could fuck him with a strap on
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>>76223001
>>76223050
Theoretically, situations could occur where a club might have an interest in match-fixing a reserve team match. For example when the pro team is facing relegation play-offs.
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>>76223105
did they really hire hitzlsperger because he's gay?
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Let's compare RB Leipzig with 1860 München. Both were taken over by investors. How did Leipzig outcompete Sechzig so convincingly over the long term?

>Leipzig 2009/10 in division V
>1860 2009/10 in division II
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>>76223199
beside his career as as professional homo, he also played football
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Why aren't you watching Oldenburg - Ulm right now?
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>>76223207
RB Leipzig's investor is competent.
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>>76223207
>Both were taken over by investors

lol, 1860 did not get anywhere near as much money from their minority shareholder sheikh than Leipzig did from Red Bull, get real
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>>76223207
Leipzig have a brain and 1860 don't
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Where were you when 1860 was kill?
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>>76223250
This

RB spent 60m € over the course of 2 seasons to get promoted.

60 get enough to pay off their annual debts + maybe 3m € for new players.
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>>76223207
the key is to get rid of every bauerntölpel in the club that has some sort of power or voice
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>>76223293
Regensburg
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>>76223314
will you celebrate on the streets later on or just have a cheeky gentleman's jack off in honor of your return to the 2nd bundesliga?
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>>76223313
>bauerntölpel
why cant you autists speak in english the entire time?
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Niederbayern Herrenrasse
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>>76223330
Probably going out and call in sick tomorrow
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>>76223243
The most competent investor pays money and let the people in charge doing their job.
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>>76223331
ey yo cracka, don't smack talk my boyz in here

dis be our territory, we make da muddafuckn rulez in here

get da fuck out if ya not cool with dat
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>>76223331
Your vocabulary is not rich enough to express the finest continental concepts.
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>>76223354
what's your occupation?
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so who /RAINYCASTLE/ here?
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>>76223331
Because there is no word like Bauerntölpel in english. Hillbilly just doesn't hit the spot.
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>>76223389
Software Engineer or Computerslave
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>>76223371
good poste
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>>76223389
I'm a doctor
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>>76223392
they are the new spicyburger
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>>76223407
dr bill hartford?
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WUUUUUUAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

kek
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>>76223404
there are IT companies in regensburg?

wow
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>>76223404
did you make wannacry?
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>>76223436
There are a few smaller ones with 10-20 employees
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I-I'm starting to believe, lads...
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What a fucking pathetic display by 1860.

>all dem long balls
>all these shit passes
>lack of any sort of fight

And the worst thing is that Ismaik won't even fuck off when they get relegated.
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>>76223476
they need THREE goals
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>>76223460
Best kind of company. 7 employee company computerslave here.
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>>76223476
>starting
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Based regensburg
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https://youtu.be/eoYYiJGuvoc top lad
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>>76223169
even so, that's not only overly specific (this season's Dritte had TWO reserve teams, Werder II was barely not relegated and Mainz went to Southwest), it's also a non-issue since there are no play-offs between Dritte and Regionals
then again I guess the same is here,

>Hertha Amateurs got to the Pokal Final in 1993
ahahaha holy shit I never knew that
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>>76223476
WE STILL BELIEVE
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>>76223501
>insulting your mama
so rude
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>>76223501
fucking based
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>>76223498
Hi amerifriend, isn't your gf from Regensburg or Smith like that
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V E R S A G E R
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>>76223501
yes this was already posted
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lmao
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>>76223523
my sides when hearing it
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>>76223516
maybe :)

why arent u out celebrating my dude?
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>>76223542
On the couch watching with my family
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hahahaha
>1860
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RIP
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>>76223558
>>76223558
very nice. may you have a nice night<3 and congrats
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why is mölders such a hothead
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>Sandhausen, Heidenheim, Aue, Regensburg are playing higher level football than 1860
what a time to be alive
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>>76223592
post pic of your gf
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>>76223595
For you
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>>76223606
don't forget Kiel
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>10 minutes away from your club's relegation into the nirvana of german football
>need 3 goals to prevent that
>not going all in and playing full on attack football

wtf is wrong with them?
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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its beat off! time!
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>Bitte bleibt hinter den Absperrungen

This is why I tuned in lads :3
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CHIMPOUT
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uuuuuuuh yes

IT'S HAPPENING
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T R A D I T I O N
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IT'S HAPPENING
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ebin
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>Mölders
lmao
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>>76223632
Kiel could have saved 1860 by getting them relegated 2 years ago, ironically.
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mölders about to explode
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>destroying the stadium
>FC Bayern will also have to play in Grünwalder Stadium next season

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
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When 1860 was one victory away from Champions League glory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h4rNOj_jH4
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just shoot the 1860 customers
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>>76223608
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>"...wird mit Stangen beworfen.."

wew
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>>76223725

>Leeds United
>1860

brothers in failure
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>all those hotheads
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>>76223719
he's fatter than Götze
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>>76223754
thats all muscles
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>Regensburg players casually warming up

lel
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Poor Ivica.
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>Already throwing out the grey seats

Bayern is going to be happy about that
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>>76223780
this
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A few years ago the same thing happened when we won the relegation against Karlsruhe.
We seem to be good at this.
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NIE MEHR 2.LIGA
NIE MEHR 2.LIGA
NIE MEHR 2.LIIIIIIIGAAAA
TSV
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>>76223780
This!
Didn't deserve this shit
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Imagine this being a Leipzig-Frankfurt Bundesliga payoff with Leipzig leading at the >Commerzbankarena.
People would fucking die.
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how much of meme would this game be if 1860 manage to turn this around?
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>Nie mehr 2te Liga
Funny
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>>76223820
too much
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>>76223820
the world would go under right afterwards
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>>76223780
Why the fuck did he go to 60?
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"RAINER WINKLER IST AUCH IN DEN DIALOG MIT EINGETRAGEN"
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P E N T K E
Chemnitz lad getting promoted. :3
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>yfw the ref ends the match
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>>76223843
Maybe because his family liked living in Munich and his daughters go to school there?
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>>76223851
>"eingetreten"

I'm an idiot
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>>76223861
>my erection when 1860 goes down
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>>76223851
Rainer gib a Ruh
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>>76223877
> implying there are no other teams in the region
>>
>"..und wer möchte das schon als Polizist mitten rein in die Chaoten"

well thats their job isnt it?
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>>76223908
Doesn't mean you like to do it.

>>76223905
Like who?
>>
just teargas those degenerates
>>
i want teargas
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>>76223925
Ingolstadt, Augsburg? Are you dumb?
>>
Regensburg should just trash 1860 5-0 now lel
>>
1860 stopped playing, lel
>>
FINISH THEM
>>
>>76223951
You seem to be dumb, that's 80km each instead of staying with your family.
>>
>Dachau literally some 30 minutes away
>not using it

what a waste
>>
who ready for /+15 injury time/ here?
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>>76223991
>What is a car
>>
1860 to regionalliga when?
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>>76223994
when teargas isn't enough
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Here's hope that Ismaik hangs himself at home.
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>>76224013
2017 if Ismaik jumps boat
>>
Mölders 90+11
Olic 90+15
Lauth 90+21

How would you react?
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>>76224024
reported to mutti
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>>76224034
would cut my dick off/10
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who /lifelong/ here?
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OBERPFALZ
OBERPFALZ
OBERPFALZ
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>>76224034
throw shit
>>
this fucking game ahahaha
>>
>1860 scores 2 goals in short succession
>chance for third
>hits officer trying to remove debris from the pitch
>ref ends the match
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>the one time a German referee should whistle earlier he doesn't do it
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Best game this season, holy shit.
I hope mad 1860 fans storm the field.
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PENTKE PENTKE PENTKE PENTKE PENTKE PENTKE PENTKE PENTKE PENTKE PENTKE PENTKE PENTKE PENTKE PENTKE PENTKE PENTKE PENTKE PENTKE PENTKE PENTKE PENTKE PENTKE PENTKE PENTKE
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HAHAHAHA I LOVE THIS
ENTERTAINING AS FUCK
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ITS OGRE YES I CANT BELIEVE IT
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now teargas the whole block
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>Für 1860 München kommt es knüppeldick: Nach der ersten Mannschaft des TSV steigt auch die U 21, U 19, U17 und U 16 ab - ein Fünffachabstieg!
KEK
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>>76224193
and i thought my dick couldn't get harder
>>
>>76224193
JUST
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>>76224193
Who profited from that anyway? There's bound to be some happy lads in the Regionalliga Bayern.
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How dangerous is he for himself and his surrounding tonight?
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>>76224193
based Haching
>another rival
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>>76224219
looks like a slightly chubbier Shia
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>>76224219
well, he can't hang himself
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>>76224251
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>tfw no more free 6 points next season

deserved it though,
league is so shit now we surely can not fuck up promoting
>>
>>76224263
WHY did you cut off the cutie?
>>
Someone got a webm of Bierofka "deescalating"?
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>>76224273
kys martin
>>
>>76224273
One spot is reserved for Düsseldorf (our year la)

Otherwise I think Nürnberg and maybe even Kaiserslautern will be up there next year.

But you're right, good thing that Stuttgart and Hannover fucked off back, the league is more equal now
>>
>>76224330
Dresden and Aue will go up, my lad
Union will get Hamburg relegated with a 3-2, 3-3 relegation.
>>
>>76224330
>düsseldoof
>>
>>76224341
dumbers pls
>>
>>76224359
don't "pls" me

Is Herrlich a robot?
>>
St Pauli will relegate HSV next season
>>
>>76224341
Union pulling HSV into the 2. Bundesliga, I hope that wish comes true.
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>>76223994
> Not Regensburg
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Gytkjær one year ago: Topscorer and winner of the double in Norway
Today: Relegated to the 3. Liga

I hope the money is good
>>
someone got a livestream from inside AA?
>>
>>76224330
desu, it could easily be anyones year

but if goretzka goes to buyern this year, we should be in a positon to push for it, if we don't accumulate as many injuries (again) and get good signings in
>>
>Linda Zervakis
Germany
yes
>>
I like the new female moderator of ARD

She's qt and actually puts some thought to what she's asking/saying

Better than that Katrin "innerer Reichsparteitag" Müller-Hohenstein disaster
>>
>>76224341
>Union
No. Just no. My prophecy will come true.
>>
>>76224330
>One spot is reserved for Düsseldorf (our year la)

Schäfer and Funkel said so and I want to believe.
>>
>>76224423
>hating on white immigrants
>inb4 Greeks aren't white

back to /pol/ shlomo
>>
>>76224445
I dislike the fact that they get to present the news.
>>
>>76224417
He was completely harmless the whole season
Except when he scored an own goal
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>1860 squad was worth three times the Jahn squad
>>
Predict the Bundes table next season
1. Bayern
2. Dortmund
3. Leverkusen
4. Leipzig
5. Wolfsburg
6. Hoffenheim
7. Gladbach
8. Schalke
9. Köln
10. Stuttgart
11. Hertha
12. Bremen
13. Mainz
14. Hannover
15. Freiburg
16. Hamburg
17. Frankfurt
18. Augsburg
>>
>>76224427
who
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>>76224457
>Pogba is worth more than 3 times the Huddersfield squad
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>>76224469
>the huddersfield squad has three times the quality of Pogba
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>>76224500
but can they dabbbb?
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>>76224463
>Leverkusen
>Wolfsburg
>>
>>76224463
>2. Dortmund
>>
>>76224423
you would like to see more sexy men?
>>
>>76222625
>no Kölsch
come on man, weirdest shit in the universe, especially considering everyone around them speaks almost impeccable High German
>>
>>76224463
1. Buyern
2.- 15. who cares lol
16. HIV
17. some shit club
18. Augsburg
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>>76224427
Yeah this

but Laura Wontorra is still the no.1 female sports reporter in German TV

1. Laura Wontorra
2. Jessy Wellmer
3. Esther Sedlaczek

*Power Gap*

101. Jessica Kastrop

*Power Gap*

9000000000000000000000000001. Katrin Müller-Hohenstein
>>
>>76224507
why would they?
dabbing is a sign of low quality
>>
I can't believe the ref didn't abandon the game after all the shit the Löwen "fans" threw onto the pitch.
>>
>>76224528
I think HIV should finally get the Rote Laterne.
>>
Why the fuck would hertha sell
I don't understand
>>
http://www1.wdr.de/daserste/hartaberfair/videos/video-der-fussball-und-das-geld--macht-der-kommerz-den-sport-kaputt-102.html
>>
*Breaking News*

Favre gave BVB green light for taking over the manager spot. Now BVB only has to deal with Nice.
>>
>>76224670
nice.
>>
So hot
>>
>tfw the only interesting relegation playoff left is on Thursday/Thundersday
>>
>tfw there are probably super exciting games left in the Danish league but the system is so confusing I've given up on it
>>
>>76224529
>>
>>76224463

1. buyern
2. bvb
3. hoffenheim
4. leipzig
5. bremen
6. köln
7. leverkusen
8. gladbach
9. freiburg
10. schalke
11. stuttgart
12. frankfurt
13. hertha
14. hannover
15. mainz
16. wolfsburg
17. hamburg
18. augusburg
>>
>>76223395
according to dict.cc "clodhopper" would be an alternative translation. I'll try to remember this for future use.
>>
>>76224463
>>76224913
>Dortmund that high without Tuchel
>Hertha that low
>still thinking HIV will ever get relegated
>>
>>76224463
>>76224913

>dortmund 2st

yeah no. they will try to hook in favre for a few weeks, fail and fail again, settle on felix magath, lose aubemeyang, dembele and pulisic and finish a comfortable 9th place. watzke after the season: "we are happy with 9th place and had great opportunities to develop talent."
>>
>>76224463
>Dortmund without Auba finishing above Leverkusen with Tuchel
Watzke pls
>>
>>76224978
>tuchel and völler will work out
no
>>
>>76224610
Brooks is good but 20 million are something you can't decline in their situation.

Should be easy to find a cheaper decent replacement with that money unless Preetz somehow fucks it up.
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Imagine being a buyern fan. Winning the league became a joke and now even their arch rival disappeared into irrelevancy. What keeps tham going?
>>
>>76224463

1. Bayern
2. Dortmund
3. Leipzig
4. Leverkusen
5. Gladbach
6. Schalke
7. Hoffenheim
8. Wolfsburg
9. Hertha
10. Köln
11. Bremen
12. Stuttgart
13. Frankfurt
14. Mainz
15. Hamburg
16. Augsburg
17. Freiburg
18. Hannover
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>>76225063

money ;)
>>
>>76224529

KMH a MILF!
>>
>>76225063
echte liebe™
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why is mor such a bitch?
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>>76224968

never rated tuchel 2bh m8
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>>76225111
Don't say I didn't tell you all
>>
Tuchel getting sacked is just another case of Manager with powercomplex.

Watzke can't stand how Tuchel is doing the job. Because Tuchel does his job how he thinks its right.
But Watzke isn't the only manager guilty of this. Retard managers thinking they are smarter than the trainers is the reason why clubs like HIV and >Schalke are a joke nowadays.

>have a decent coach who knows whos best and what everyone can do
>want him to use other players for whatever reason
>trainer tells manager to back off (Tuchel case) -> Gets sacked
>trainer does what the manager wants (Most trainers) -> They play like shit and the trainer gets sacked because lack of good results

Manager never want to take responsibility for their fuckups even though they are the origin of all problems most of the time.
>>
>>76222625
pls gib Bavaria for strong republic/kingdom
>>
>>76225098
hmmmm.....

>>76225105
Doesn't make sense, but I still take it as an answer.
>>
>>76225111
>danes playing dirty
nothing new desu
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>>76224529
Esther is the goat though
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>>76222681
>not wanting to be named after wood pellets
Really disappointed famalam
>>
>>76222841
Back to College, Sören. You have articles on wordpress to write and Spiegel to read
>>
>>76225433
>Sören
It's Dumbers, thank you very MUCH.
>>
>>76225433
gb2krautchan, schluchtenscheisser
>>
Dynamo not promoted

and munich just relegated

i just got a munich jersey :(
>>
>>76222555
>eating chunks of frozen water
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQNyjWYG2aM

MR
W
I
X
A
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Always disliked the Allianz Arena™ because of the grey seats, so good work löwen fans.
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>>76225515
Don't know who this is but you already posted that vid yesterday.
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>>76225470
heh
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>>76225547
take the wixa pill
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>>76225532
hope they'll move out and it can look like this
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So now that Wenger signed a new 2 year contract and Barca hired Valverde, is it safe to say that Leverkusen has the best chances to hire the Taktikfuchs?
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>>76225730
would look much better desu
>>
https://twitter.com/nummer_zwei/status/869628346182897665
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>>76225730
yeah I also hope they move out and stop to pay Uli-shekels for this giant piss pot.
>>
>>76225935
ouch
>>
>>76225935
top lad
>>
Ian Ayre has stepped down from his position at 1860! He only started his job in April.
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>>76225695
Wixxa worldwide represent
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>>76226192
Will we ever see them again in the 2.Buli let alone the 1.Buli?
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>>76225111
I told you the little turkshit was the reason. Glad that this little entitled wanker will never make it.
>>
>>76226192
told you he is a swindler
>>
>>76226135
lets hope bayern can survive without the 1.5 million/year rent
>>
>>76226239
I don't think that some literally who player, who is more of a youth player than a fully fledged pro, is in the position to stir up a revolution against the coach. Schmelzer and Sahin are in a much better position to do that desu.
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>>76220774
no the real reason is that Tuchel wants more power. now they kicked him because if he wins anything again next year they will not be able to get rid of him.
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>>76226192
kek
I can't wait for Ismaik to throw the towel and have 1860 face relegation to the Regionalliga.
>>
I do hope Rummenigge weighs in on 1860's relegation tomorrow.
>>
>>76226305
that's pretty much Kaffesatzleserei desu. The only thing we know for sure is that Watzke/Zorc/Mislintat on the one side and Tuchel/his media guy on the other side are to childish to solve problems like grown ups would do.
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>>76226355
>>
>>76226361
>to childish to solve problems like grown ups would do.
what does that mean
why is it hildish to just seperate?
>>
Munich is too shit for two pro clubs anyways
>>
>>76226361
no its not tuchel is pissed because they did all the transfers last year without respecting his wishes. tuchel wants more power in the club and hes clever enough to know he can only achieve that by improving his standing with the Fans. and he does that mainly by being succesful, and watzke knows if tuchel is too succesful it will be hard to get rid of him. imagine if tuchel managed to win the bundesliga or the cl even next year. not extending his contract would be impossible in such a situation. and then tuchel would be in the position of power. so they kicked him out before he improves his standing enough to be a real danger to the power of watzke. thats whats up.
>>
>>76226397
From an outsiders point of view it seems childish that they probably didn't talked to each other face to face, but instead communicated through a third party (press, among other things) and pretended that the talk they're going to have in the near future is going to be open and unbiased, when both parties know that it's probably going to be the exact opposite.
>>
the real question is

where will turbo_tuchel go?
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Imagine you're asking if Sami Khedira is available but instead they you get you Sebastian Rode and tell you to shut the fuck up and be happy about it.. I would be pissed too desu.
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>>76226470
If Tuchel had won the league they would not have kicked him out. The only reason they kicked him out is that they aren't sure he's gonna deliver sporting success in the future based on his erratic team selections and tactical choices this season. Watzke probably got a heart attack watching the starting 11 against Frankfurt with Ginter as sole midfielder.
>>
>>76226508
>>76225752

?
>>
>>76226520
Rode = Khedira
>>
>>76226548
Rode > Khedira, in fact
>>
>>76226508
1860
>>
>>76226533
I don't think that you'e, right but if they really think that they know more about team selection than the coach who sees and judges them at every training session and who is a verified tactic autist, they should be removed from their postion, because leading a large football cooperation is obviously to much for them.
>>
>>76226470
this doesn't make any sense. If he is powerful AND successful why would they want to get rid of him. If he isn't successful why would it be too dificult to not extend his contract/fire him?

>>76226474
they may have not communicated face to face but thinking they communicated through the press is retardation.
>>
>>76226548
They're quite similar, but Kheira is twice the player Rode is aspiring to be.
>>
>>76226533
No, Watzke wants to be like KHR and Hoeneß in Bayern, the all powerful person and basically the club personified. watzke is not an idiot, he doesnt want another klopp. sure, watzke pretends he likes klopp and all that, but he only does that because klopp has such a standing with the fans. he feared tuchel might become as succesful as klopp so he kicked him out.
>>
>>76226508
Neverkusen
>>
>>76226634
>Watzke wants to be like KHR
so much this
can't wait for his "beschissen worden"
>>
>>76226626
Well than take the press out and put Tuchels agent in. A trainer who baulks every contact with his boss and a CEO who hasn't the balls to contact his coach directly, but always contact his agent or the some journalists he knows, is pretty embarrassing desu schmesu.
>>
This talk makes me think back to Oscargate where Brondby's owner shitposted about their coach on the fan forum.
Now *that's* childish.
>>
>>76226634
>making ridiculous statements without any proof
>sure some people will buy it

pls stop it. It's obvious that your hate for watzke affects your argumentation. I don't like him either but what you write is madness.
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>>76226718
>talks about embarressment
>desu schmesu

fuck off ghetto kid LARPer
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>>76226763
Was his involvment with the club just an elaborate ruse?
>>
>>76226761
its true though. clubs with "a boss" always have the same mechanics.

i guarantee you that zidane is going to get kicked out by perez next year. thats how these power greedy old dudes work. perez, krh, watzke, they are very similar. also, why do you think Lahm is not pursuing a career at FCB? Because he waits until KRH and Hoeneß are gone. Hes not dumb either.
>>
>>76226777
not an argument
>>
>>76226749
Yeah I think remember that. You posted about it on here too.
>>
Imagine how much Frankfurt would have appreciated winning the Pokal?

Meanwhile Dortmund celebrate by descending into chaos. For shame!
>>
Michi Liendl is getting linked with every single Austrian club right now.

Being a Sturm supporter, I'd prefer it, if >we went in for Gytkjaer so he can link up with his Scandinavian buddy Ovenstad on the bench.
>>
>>76226873
I still think that the fans and the club are still genuinely happy about the Tyske-Pokal, although seeing Frankfurt winning it would've been nice too.
If I'm being honest, seeing anyone but buyern winning it is a nice thing, becuase you get the feeling that any title besides the CL cup doesn't interest them anymore.
>>
>>76225202
This
>>
>>76226400
>1860
>not being a beta club since 2006
>>
>>76226763
JUST
>>
>>76226920
Gytkjær should go to Brondby, at least if 1860 get so fucked financially that they just need to unload him to get rid of his wages.

>>76226936
Yes
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>>76227067
>Der neue Geschäftsführer Ayre, den Investor Hasan Ismaik erst vor wenigen Wochen als Sensation präsentiert hatte, war zuvor vom FC Liverpool aus der Premier League gewechselt. Ein Abstieg wäre ein "Desaster epischen Ausmaßes", hatte der 63-jährige Liverpooler Ayre noch vor wenigen Tagen gesagt.
>>
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>Dass sich beide Seiten in einem für den Wochenbeginn anberaumten Gespräch auf eine Fortsetzung der vertraglich bis 2018 fixierten Zusammenarbeit einigen, erscheint unwahrscheinlich. Stattdessen dürfte über die Trennungsmodalitäten verhandelt werden.
>Das Ende der Problemehe könnte den Revierklub teuer zu stehen kommen. Laut Informationen der „Bild“-Zeitung soll die vermeintliche Abfindung den Verein 2,9 Millionen Euro kosten. Schließlich steht Tuchel bis 2018 unter Vertrag. Dafür erwarte der Verein eine saubere Trennung ohne verbales Nachtreten.
Imagine being a worldclass football coach who's getting fired.
Life could be so easy.
>>
explain this denmark >>76215001
>>
>>76227194
>gaymark
>>
>>76224463

Im just gonna say it.

1. RB Leipzig
2. Bayern
3. Stuttgart
4. BVB
>>
>>76227205
>bayern not winning every buli title during the next 10~15years
bold statement desu
>>
>>76227194
Brian is a really interesting guy.
>>
>>76227231
No seriously. Do you know if she's somewhat interesting/funny/smart. Or did he married her because he needed a beard.
>>
>>76227005
He's one of the few players in there that has real resale value. And there is also the possibility of him having a contract that's only valid for 2nd /bundes/, so someone could get him on a free. That's how >we got Siebenhandl from Würzburg, and with 1860's management being hyper-incompetent, I'd consider this a real possibility.

>>76227194
Maybe she's really good in bed?
>>
>>76227229

>no Lahm
>no Alonso
>Robbery getting old and one injury away from retirement
>new players sofar are all mid-table mediocrity (yes, even Brandt)
>they wont get Alexis Sanches/James Rodriguez
>theyre not poaching any RB/BVB players

Im gonna put money on Bayern not winning the league actually.
>>
>>76224463
1. Hamburg
2. Dortmund
3. Leverkusen
4. Leipzig
5. Wolfsburg
6. Hoffenheim
7. Gladbach
8. Schalke
9. Köln
10. Stuttgart
11. Hertha
12. Bremen
13. Mainz
14. Hannover
15. Freiburg
16. Bayern
17. Frankfurt
18. Augsburg
>>
>>76227267
Even if they're getting worse, as long as they can buy their opponents best/most promising players they will be fine.

>theyre not poaching any RB/BVB players
>
>
>
>
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>>76227287

So you agree with me then.

Theyre not getting Keita/Werner from RB.

Theyre not getting Dembele/Auba/Reus/Sokratis from BVB.
>>
>>76227300
>
>>
>>76227287
>>76227300
>theyre not poaching any RB/BVB players

That's what I thought during the middle of the season. Both Pulisic and Weigl even signed new contracts. However, with Tuchel gone who knows what might happen.
>>
>>76227331

Is autism a requirement for understanding what youre trying to imply?
>>
>>76227334

No BVB players have an exit clause and the most important ones have long contracts. Bayern are not getting a single player from BVB in the next 2 years.

Furthermore, Leipzig doesnt have to sell anything/anyone and wont.
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>>76227344
Most definitely. Hope you enjoy your stay at 4chän.
>>
>>76227246
I don't know. He doesn't share much. They married when he was 19 and she was a bit older. I think that's pretty early to get a beard.

She's probably just a nice person, but as I said, he seems like a pretty interesting person and there could be some strange explanation.
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>>76227369

God I hate nu-/sp/. I miss the flagless days where there was no kraut-faggotry.
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>>76227344
I was trying to imply that I think that it's highly unlikely for buyern to not buy their opponents best players
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1. Bayern
2. Leverkusen (in case of Tuchel)
3. Leipzig
4. Bremen
5. Mystery Team
6. Dortmund
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>>76227391
>look at me I'm an oldfag
everyone in here is at least for +15 years on this site
>
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>Mystery Team
2spoopy5me
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>>76227361
If I was any of the youngsters currently in the BVB squad while having:

>Beat Bayern twice this season
>Won the same amount of silverware
>Qualified for CL

I wouldn't see a reason to move, other than getting paid more money.
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>>76227430
I wasn't looking at a table so I forgot about Gladbach. Would probably put them there
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>>76224463
1. Buyern
2. Hoppenheim
3. Gladbach
4. Leipzig
5. Hertha
6. Dortmund
7. Bremen
8. Köln
9. Leverkusen
10. Schalke.
11. Stuttgart
12. Freiburg
13. Hamburg
14. Wolfsburg
15. Frankfurt
16. Augsburg
17. Hannover
18. Mainz
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>>76227419
Why do people think Tuchel would downgrade to Neverkusen? I've seen this rumour around /sp/ but nowhere else.
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Bayern already poached Hoppenheim players, who are a bigger threat than RB/BVB anyways
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>mysteriousmark
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>>76227432
>other than getting paid more money.
That's not an insignificant factor at all.
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>>76227427

I doubt it, considering that when flags were introduced there wasnt a single fucking German flag up until BzZzZzZzzZzzzzzZZzZzzz. Thats when the Teutonic menace invaded.
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screencaped all your predictions
I'll lmao at you in one year
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>>76227464
>get more money
>warm the bench 3/4ths of the season

Really gets the dendrites dancing
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>>76227456
Honigstein says it's 100% on and he's possibly the biggest expert on the Bundesliga sooo...
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>>76227432

The Götze transfer (and soon the Hummels transfer) are valuable lessons for any current BVB player. Dembele actually had a much "better" offer from Bayern, but rejected it for BVB, due to getting more play-time.

The only player that i know for a fact Bayern will pay 50 million for is Weigl. Luckily as you said, he just renewed.
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>>76227468
>I doubt it
I know, given that this heel hole was founded in 2003(?) it's next to impossible.But don't let your jimmy get rustled by some drunk german who should've went to sleep 2 hours ago. good night
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>>76227479
Honigstein is a hack, a pretend journalist and he caters to a British (tabloid news addicted) audience.
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>>76227510

Night.
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>>76227479
>possibly the biggest expert on the Bundesliga
But that's memeverlagerungs brave Tobias Escher
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>>76227300
Why the fuck would they want Nigger, Permacrock or Greek fraud?
Young nigger is the only interesting prospect Dortmund has.
>>
>>76226920
>Stnrw Graz
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>>76227479
OY VEY RAPHAEL SAID IT SO IT MUST BE TRUE
Honigstein is a fucking idiot.
>>
>>76227594
>Buying BVB key players so they sit on the bench and you can win the league easily

Your so dumb dumb
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>>76227655
>le Bayern buys all the Dortmund players meme xDDD
so funny
They got Lewanfraudski on a free, they paid a goddamn premium for Goatsex. The ONLY case you have is Hummlels.
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>>76227594

They already wanted Dembele dumb dumb. They offered him a much better salary at Bayern, but he chose BVB instead.

They already wanted Reus back in 2012, but he choose BVB instead.

Sokratis is arguably one of the best CB in the league. Wouldnt be the first time they bought a BVB CB.
>>
>>76227676

They got Lewaflopski for free, because they waited out the contract and gave him a "handgeld" if he waited out his contract and transferred to Bayern.
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>>76227655
Meanwhile, Dortmund are busy buying their rivals Gladbach's key player Dahoud.

>>76227683
Yes, I said Dembele is the only case you can make. He's good.
Nobody wants Reus now.
>Sokratis is arguably one of the best CB in the league.
Oh. You're just retarded then.
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>>76227702
They got Lewandowski for free because Dortmund didn't manage to get him to sign a new contract.
>b-b-but they BOUGHT HIM from #EchteLiebeFC!!!! THEY ARE EVIL!!!!
No, they literally didn't. He had the opportunity to go to a better team as a free agent.
>>
ugh
it's way too late for these discussions
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>>76227676
I wasn't even talking about the past transfers, dumbass. I'm just saying it's something Bayern COULD do.
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>>76227731
Bayern could also shell out 200 million for TSU. Equally as likely.
Dortmund are worse offenders when it comes to buying from league rivals.
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>>76227720

You seem to be impervious to facts. So be it then.
>>
>>76227738

As if Ronaldo would ever go from biggest club in the world to local bully club in boring league.
>>
>>76227759
Bayern did not buy Lewandowski from Dortmund.
That is a fact.
>>
>>76227703
>when you go for classic CB skills, Sokratis is one of the best on his position.
>>
no idea why I greentexted it
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>>76227769
>biggest club in the world
Ronaldo isn't playing for United anymore, lad.
>>
>>76227779
Classic CB skills meaning being slow and playing dirty?
>>
>>76227777
By ancient 4chan custom, these quads mean I am victorious in this discussion. But it was a good attempt, Alois.
>>
>>76227797

Now youre being silly.
>>
>>76227853
I was. This is a fucking Laotian turtle figurine forum and it's hot in here. We're just having fun.
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good nigth /bundes/
would be nice if we could stay this "active" during the summer break
>>
>>76222350
>the english of this sentence
lel
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>>76227938
dude
fuck off
you do NOT want to pick a fight with us
>>
>>76228026
sorry :(
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>>76228026
i want to apologize on his behalf, coming into your house and disrespecting you like that.
>>
>>76227938
>>76222445
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>>76227777
Where is the fucking diference? In the end he is not in Dortmund, but in Buyern.
>Bu.. But... we are not Buyern...
Buyern fans are fucking pathetic.
>>
>>76229774
you gotta admit his quads are pretty convincing
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>>76222350
It's a ridiculous cost and only because of inflation
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ughhh I think I'm getting sick. been feeling like real shit all day and got a sore throat since waking up
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>>76230094
*hugs u*
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>>76229774
>Buyern fans are fucking pathetic.
sorry but the proper term is "customers"
>>
>>76228069
>>76228074
apology accepted, you fucking LOSERS
lol
>>
>>76224463
1 Leipzig
2 Dortmund
3 Bayern
4 Hoffenheim
5 Köln
6 Leverkusen
7 Gladbach
8 Bremen
9 Stuttgart
10 Schalke
11 Freiburg
12 Hertha
13 Mainz
14 Frankfut
15 Hamburg
16 Hannover
17 Wolfsburg
18 Augsburg
>>
really nice weather outside
>>
No it's too hot
>>
youre too hot
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>>76234939
>Leipzig 1
>Dortmund before Bayern

fatty pls
>>
Cold and windy
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>>76235400
Lass uns zusammen einen neuen /bundes/ zeugen!
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What's nightfall called in Finland? Helsinki lmao
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Ian Ayre on 1860
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>According to yahoo sports, Aubameyang confirmed to PSG for €70m

How do these "journalists" come up with these retarded numbers?
>>
"Emil has paid RB back ten-fold. Maybe it's now time for him to prove himself at a big club." - Emil Forsberg's agent. (Aftonbladet)

>>76235535
You do it
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>>76236065
What's his agent's name again? :^)
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>>76236151
Hasan Cetinkaya
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>>76236184
;^)
>>
Someone gib a bundes OP pic. I am mobile.
>>
there
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>>76236284
>>
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