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IT WAS THE RUSSIANS

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The guy who bombed the BVB bus is a 28-year old Russian living in Germany, who bought options against BVB for 40,000 € and wanted to bring the BVB stocks down, which he thought would make him 4 million € in profits.

He was also the one who wrote all the fake letters by ISIS.

Fucking ruskies
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English source: http://www.newsweek.com/borussia-dortmund-bus-attack-stock-market-monaco-marc-bartra-sport-587237
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>>75395220
Slavs are subhuman so it's no surprise, they're a disgrace to Europe
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#NotAllCapitalists
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>>75395220
top bantz ivan
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>>75395220
around the rus, never drive bus
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>>75395220
>who bought options against BVB for 40,000 € and wanted to bring the BVB stocks down, which he thought would make him 4 million € in profits.
did it work?
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TERROR
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>>75395269
Czechs, Polacks, Croats are quite based from my experience.

Serbs are sometimes a bit too uncivilized for my taste, but they do have some good values on them also.

But yeah, fuck the Russians tho
One of the biggest cancers in history.
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>>75395322
No.
Russians cannot into good capitalism, tovarish.
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>>75395322
No, because nobody died.

It said he specifically wanted to kill like half the team, which would bring down the club into complete chaos and would be a disaster on the stock market for BVB.
He was apparently inspired by the Brazilian team who crashed in an airplane some months ago.

But he underestimated the BVB bus and didn't know it had bulletproof windows or something.
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>>75395331
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>mfw leftypol has been in a raiding frenzy because "le bumber wuz WHITE!!"
>mfw he was actually a slav
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This whole thing sounds like the plot to a really bad Die Hard sequel. Like one where it's McClane's 10 year old nephew having to foil the villain's plan.
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Nice cover up Germany.
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If only the west wouldve supported Hitler and nuke Russia
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>>75395220
>>75395522

This, sounds like a typical movie plot with a safe white Russian villain only interested in making a profit at the cost of lives.

Its almost pleasant to hear of such a convoluted plot.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/POL/ BTFO

EAT SHIT DRUMPFTARDS
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>>75395545
We didn't know... WE DIDN'T KNOW
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>>75395220

Oh boy...

There was no """bomb"""

the whole thing is a hoax like every terrorist shit that happens in europe or america

it wasn't done by russians or muslims

it's just fear mongering
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>>75395564
You knew, Shlomo.
You had other reasons to stop >us.
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>>75395550
Yeah, it even has him calmly ordering a steak after he thinks his plan has worked.
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>>75395579
The only thing unsuccessfully bombing BVB could accomplish would be getting peoples' hopes up.
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A real brainiac at work.

>buy shares on the day of the attack
>stay in the same hotel from a place where you can see the road

Now they lost their CL games because of this moron and just want the season to be over.
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>>75395550
it sounds like a movie plot because it was written to convince you that muslims are the good guys.
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>>75395220
>>75395250
>28-year old Russian wanting to kill a football team for stock market gains

Why am I almost sure that he frequented /biz/ and /sp/?

t. Frequent /biz/ and /sp/ visiter
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>>75395623
>Now they lost their CL games because of this moron
ahahahahahaha
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>>75395220
But he was german-russian
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/pol/ in desperation
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>>75395650
>muh citizenship

A pig living in a horse stable is still a pig.
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>>75395678
>letting pigs play in your NT
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/pol/ on suicide watch
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>>75395678
Maybe the pig was born in the stable and raised by the horses though, we don't know that.
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>investoterrorism


woah thats some real jewish shit
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>>75395220
>He was also the one who wrote all the fake letters by ISIS.


fake news, german media covering up the muslim problem any way they can
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>>75395220
>literally a BVB shareholder

Can't make this shit up.
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>>75395764
>Sergej Wenergold
>Wenergold

>>75395788
fuck off donald
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>>75395808
scariest webm i've ever seen
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>>75395670
>>75395712
>"/pol/ on suicide wa--"
>there was another Islamic attack in Paris last night

Does this bus attack even count as terrorism now? If it was just one guy, and he deliberately targeted a group of people, and he only did it for money?
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>>75395814
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgCUT9Pl77s
here, have a calming video
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>>75395655
PULL IT
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>>75395828
I'd say so. He still wanted to spread fear. It's just his end goal for spreading fear was to cause uncertainty on the stock market.
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everyonme should have known muslims don't attack football teams, imagine IS killing a halal madrid player, they would never manage to recruit anyone ever again.
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>a literal shareholder

you can't make this shit up
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>>75395220
that's just the cover up the KGB gave one of their agents. In reality they wanted to kill Dortmund players and frame the muslims to give their friends from AfD a little help in the election year.
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You've gone way too far /bet/
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>>75395847
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/isis-kill-16-real-madrid-7962654
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Just fucking wow.
I have no words.
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>>75395869
>AfD
>friendly to Russia
spotted the retard
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>>75395876
based
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>>75395828
>implying a bomb attack isn't terror
>>75395869
greed, plain and simple greed is the motive
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>literally a Dortmund shareholder

This feels a bit like Flight 4U9525
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The game is the game
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>>75395869
now this is advanced paranoid tinfoilery
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>>75395902
>>75395939
The plan as presented is completely absurd. Either the dude is mentally handicapped or hes a KGB agent, potentially both.
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>Sergej Wenergold
OY VEY
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Sounds like he played too much GTA V
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>>75395220
What a motivated and hardworking young man, real entrepreneurial spirit
Wanting more money is just human nature.
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>>75396083
insider trading is a white collar crime

he'll get a slap on the wirst
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Am I seriously supposed to believe that a guy who graduated in electrical engineering would make such moronic mistakes?
>getting a loan an then buy stocks
>bought the stocks from the hotel room
>booked the hotel twice at a stage where it was unclear whether Dortmund’s home match against Monaco would be in the first or second leg of the Champions League quarter-final

How stupid do you have to be to come up with this plan and then think no ones gonna suspect a thing?
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>>75396264
>would make such moronic mistakes
>being intelligent in one aspect means you're intelligent in all aspects
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>>75396264
well-educated =/= smart

I walk around an electrical engeering faculty and you wouldn't believe how dumb some people are.
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>>75395550
>>75395608
>Yeah, it even has him calmly ordering a steak after he thinks his plan has worked.
>keikaku doori
>I'll order a steak... and eat it!
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Honestly if this was a movie I'd complain about the plot holes
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>>75396401
stupidity is not a plot hole
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>>75396083
>>75396122
I didn't know there were still jews in Germany.
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>>75396435
I think Germany has the second largest Jewish population in Europe after France
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>>75396264
>special ed tier apprenticeship
>well educated
Choose one but only one.
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>>75396317
>well-educated =/= smart
t. rural and suburban retard
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>>75395381
>random German bus is bulletproof and survived a bomb
>American military vehicles get ripped apart by bombs

Really fires your neurons
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>>75396445
Do you guys have to avert your sight and bow, leave your place on the bus etc. when you spot a jew?
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>>75396510
are you meming or are you serious
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>>75396523
Germancucks is not a meme.
>governed by the US
>largest jew community
>come to Italy for vacation to make your women breed with locals
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>>75396264
>Am I seriously supposed to believe that a guy who graduated in electrical engineering would make such moronic mistakes?
yes
it's electrical engineering
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>>75396032
Exactly my first thought
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>>75395969
>completely absurd
Or in other words, Russian.

>>75396264
>>75396401
>"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense."

>>75396471
>rural and suburban
How can he be both, retard?
And he's right, just because someone is educated in a certain field does not mean he wouldn't be completely pants-on-head incompetent in a completely different field or enterprise. People who think education is synonymous to intelligence instead of just a potential gateway are fucking idiots who never made it far enough into university to realize how many stupid people can succeed in academia with just hard work and proper specialization
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>>75395678
>Sergej Wenergold
>Volga germans emigrant
>Russian
You are dumb
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>>75396264
>stem grad
>not a moron
k
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>>75396634
>Wenergold
>(((gold)))
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>>75396649
/pol/ is always right
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>>75396634
>Sergej
obviously culturally Russian
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>>75396643
something something grapes
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What would a jew NOT do to make money?
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>>75396702
Keep his foreskin
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>>75396702
yer mum
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>>75396702
Spend money
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>elaborate white - collar plot
>involves killing a dozen people
How stupid can you be. Just rob a bank.
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>>75396702
He could have just called the League of Jews and gotten a small loan of €1M.
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>>75396766
Honestly that seems safer then robbing a bank
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>>75395331
This.

I agree to everything you said.
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This was the premise to casino Royale lmao
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>>75395220
Fucking Putin.
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>>75396633
>How can he be both, retard?
>And he's right, just because someone is educated in a certain field does not mean he wouldn't be completely pants-on-head incompetent in a completely different field or enterprise. People who think education is synonymous to intelligence instead of just a potential gateway are fucking idiots who never made it far enough into university to realize how many stupid people can succeed in academia with just hard work and proper specialization
that's what I thought you are a moron
get educated
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>>75396864
Nice retort, urban redneck.
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>he was literally a BVB shareholder
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>tfw he didn't get to enter high stakes poker to try and recoup the money to pay back the loan
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>>75395321
lel
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this was a stunt for the next james bond movie
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>>75395331
T-thanks I guess.
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>>75395331
Danke Dir based Německo
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>>75396864
He's right though. The woman who plays Amy in TBBT does actually have a PhD in Neuroscience, so she's very highly educated. Yet she's an anti-vaxxer. Just because you're educated in one field, doesn't mean you can't be stupid as fuck in another.
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>>75397165
>>75397252
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>>75395635
t. art
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the slavs again
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>>75395331
poles actually steal though, it's not a meme
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>>75397275
that is a beautiful picture germany
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>>75396634
>volga germans
>german

they all identify as russian more than as german

t. anon living in a place where many thousands of them where settled
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>>75395220
He was German, Mehmet. Do not projecting.
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How much money will they pay Tuchel to shave off his last remaining hairs so that Bruce Willis can play him in the inevitable die hard movie based on a true story?
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>>75397235
>>75396864
>>75396633
The problem of modern education is that it's vertical and not horizontal.
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i'm not one for conspiracy theories, but that sounds like a load of convoluted false flag shite to me.

a guy tried to blow up a football team in order to make a tiny amount of money from market trading? WHAT? who would be fucking thick enough to possibly think they would get away with that? you'd have to be genuinely brain damaged to weigh up the risk/reward ratio and think it was a good idea.

i reckon it was an islamist attack but the german authorities are trying to suppress it for obvious political reasons.
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>>75395650
his family probably owned a german shepherd
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>>75397362
My thoughts exactly
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>>75396671
He missspelled the word, what he actually wanted to say was
>Sehrgay Wienergold
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>>75397362
>>75397396
>>>/pol/

Fucking imbeciles.
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>>75397426
>>>/r/eddit

homo
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>>75397426
He has a point though.

It sounds like something the german media would do.
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>>75397453
i prefer this story to islamic terrorism because at least this is interesting, terrorism is so last year
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Is this why /bet/ has been silently removed from /sp/?
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>>75397483
yes
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>>75397344

my thoughts lol. gene hackman could play watzke.
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Lundenpress hard at work again I see
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>>75397453
This is so retarted no one would come up with this.
Bombing a Bus to make a stock lose value
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>>75397504
As always
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fuggg a bretty gud plan :DD
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>>75397517

its too convoluted for islamists. they would just run with a suicide bomber into the bus or crash into it with a truck.
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>>75397362
cyka bylat
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>tfw rewatching casion royale now
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>>75397445
/pol/ is reddit, newfriend.
>>75397453
How fucking stupid must you be to believe something like that?
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>>75397720
yelling "/pol/" at random posts on unrelated boards is reddit, newpal.

but by all means, keep yelling "stupid" without any substantive imput too while you're at it, it makes dismissing your posts much easier for the lurkers.
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>>75397781
>it's all a big conspiracy by lefties, it can't be real!
>I'm not /pol/ I swear!
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>75397806
Who are you quoting?
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>>75395220
Was his face released yet? My bid would go to Dagestani or Tchetchen muzzie.

>>75395331
WTF!
>>75397279
That's more like it.
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>>75397720
>>75397806
calm down you little freak.

how stupid do you have to be to think that "he bombed a bus to lower stock values" sounds like a believable story? my theory about a cover-up is about the same level of believable

i also am not right-wing. i vote SNP
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>>75397856
Why isn't it believable?

It's actually brilliant. I wish I thought of it
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>>75397856
have you never played gta v? he probably did and thought he was a genius
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>>75397820
All the previous posts? Duh.
>>75397856
>how stupid do you have to be to think that "he bombed a bus to lower stock values" sounds like a believable story?
Wow. Just wow. It doesn't matter how "believable" a story seem, this is REALITY. What you're doing is questioning reality with no proof whatsover stating it's all a conspiracy.

If this is not the epytome of stupididty.
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>>75397894
>this is REALITY
How do you know?
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>>75397900
How do you know it's not? Because you're paranoid and question what police tells you?
Isis would be all over this shit. The bomb didn't even cause serious damage. The letters were obvious fakes.

I feel stupid just to have to explain this shit.
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>>75397235
the woman who plays amy is Blossom, from the 1990s sitcom Blossom

any degree she has is honorary
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>>75397894
>epytome
>stupididty

He has nothing to back it up, of course. But he was honest in that, he made his posts very clearly defined as speculation. And his speculation, if not supported by evidence due to obvious reasons, is still more than structurally possible considering the overview of the events. It's still perfectly fine to disagree with him, he'll probably more than welcome a dissenting discussion. You, however, just seem to be sperging out because the new publicized narrative fits your political worldview so snugly you see any inquest into it as a personal attack. And it's very childish, honestly. You're not making yourself look too smart here.
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>>75397969
Honorary degrees aren't specialized.
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>>75397958
You have no more or less information than we do.
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>Literal shareholder bombing the club for profit

Okay, who of you was that?
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>>75397969
it's not
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Bialik%20M%5BAuthor%5D&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=27119728
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>>75397894
>>75397958

why are you such an angry, strange little man?
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>>75397349
(rated best post in the thread)
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>>75398021
the entirety of /bet/

mods did nothing to the general, it disspeared because they all got v& at the same time over this
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>>75398021
Ask >>>/biz/
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>>75397996
>>75398013
>He has nothing to back it up, of course. But he was honest in that, he made his posts very clearly defined as speculation
Literally the aliens meme. Congratulations.
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>>75395381
The bus didn't have bulletproof windows. It's not allowed for safety reasons. The bomb just exploded too late.
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>>75398076
the bombs were as lazy as russians
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>>75398074
I never mentioned aliens so there's no possible way that could be 'literally' the same thing.

You know, you might be one of the first warning signs of what happens when you raise a child on memes. It seems the brain starts to atrophy.
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>>75398110
I'm not the one claiming it's all a leftie conspiracy.
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>>75395220
We need proof that it was ordered by Dmitry Rybolovlev. Monaco is to blame, and the Jews at UEFA colluded with them.
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>It was the Russians Thread

Brought to you by.........
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>>75398074
>>75398118
honestly the angriest man i've ever seen on 4chan.

what a fucking state to get yourself in over nothing.

maybe you should take a 5 minute break from the computer? stop taking the internet so seriously
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>>75397362
Nah, I actually doubted the entire Islamist angle from the start, even tho I'm a potential AfD voter

This was very not-ISIS/Islamist like, especially the remotely controlled bombs and the letter with specific demands.

Russians are crazy bastards oftentimes with a small regard for human life, this is what they do.
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>>75398046
he's a mudslime
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>>75398118
No, you're not. Well you managed to keep track of what side of the argument you're on, that's good. That's promising.

We'll get started on slightly more advanced techniques next week, like
>how to respond to a post with arguments beyond just calling it "stupid" and "/pol/"
and other life skills.
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>>75398156
>stop taking the things seriously
Why? I'm not a retard. I've been taught to use my brain.
>>75398169
I don't need to reply to stupid posts with well tought posts, calling them with their name is enough and saves times.
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>>75398193
>ibe been toght 2 use my brein
>BUTT IM NOT GUNNA USE IT THUOGH LOL
>it two hard me saves time
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>>75398169
>with arguments
Do you have any claim to back the fact that both the police and the media are making up a story for this? Even though there are islamist terrorist attacks every other day that they don't bother to cover?
Your feelings are not proof enough
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Literally GTA
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>>75395522
>>75395550
Oh you mean exactly like the first act of casino royale? where mads mikkelsen is betting against an airways company by blowing up their prototype
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>>75398242
I never made that claim. Ask the brit.

I'm just carving up this italian because he's being a brain-damaged retard posting absolute garbage.
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>>75398259
>copying plans that don't work even in movies
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>>75398276
no one said the guy was smart
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So what, who's going to stop us?
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>>75398298
I'm literally shaking right now
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>>75398298
You know exactly who
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>>75398224
>>75398270
You're a buffoon.
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>>75398270
You said >Who are you quoting? to his post saying something about a conspiracy.
The post he quoted:
>i reckon it was an islamist attack but the german authorities are trying to suppress it
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>>75398328
Ummmm no sweetie
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Id actually watch a film about this story.
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>>75398387
good thing it already is a movie
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>>75398387
only if it has daniel craig
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i have to say, this is probably the best time to pull off this sort of thing and pin it on muslims, who do 90% of the attacks - meme warriors even spread disinformation about it being a nazi or antifa

i'm glad nobody died, so it's a funny story now
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>a literal shareholder is their undoing

i'm fucking loving this
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http://www.weltfussball.de/news/_n2712114_/nach-festnahme-bvb-aktie-steigt-deutlich/
Well? Who was smart enough to see this coming?
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>>75398330
He didn't quote that post in that post of his though.

He quoted
>it's all a big conspiracy by lefties, it can't be real!
>I'm not /pol/ I swear!
which isn't a quote of any post in this thread. Now he could be trying to claim that I was claiming it was a "conspiracy by lefties", but that would be incredibly stupid of him to try to do since none of my posts in this thread ever touched on that so that surely can't be it. The closest I got would be here >>75396633 where I responded to a guy calling the plan absurd. Wow, ain't that wacky? But I guess it will just remain a mystery just exactly WHO he was quoting.
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>>75398399
which one?
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>>75398478
casino royale
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>>75398436
KAUFEN KAUFEN KAUFEN
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>>75398483
i dont remember the villain trying to blow up a football team lmao
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>>75398582
watch it again then
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>>75398582
the airplane being blown up in the first half of movie is exactly what the russian tried to do by blowing up the team
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>>75398440
It's in this direct chain of discussion, literally a couple of post above. Since you've acknowledge that the claim came from "the brit", surely you did notice he included in his post the "for obvious political reasons".
Now, we can try and pretend the brit was implying that this coverup was made for "right-wing" reasons, but that would be, indeed, a stupid claim, for right-wing parties would have nothing to gain from that as they have been saying for a while islamists are a danger for Europe.

If the italian poster made this reasoning himself, then it would have been logical for him to talk about the >the lefties in his satirical post.

My question is: are you saying that you genuinely don't know what the brit was implying in his post when he talked about "obvious political reasons", or are you purposely ignoring it's meaning?
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Just a reminder. Russians are NOT white. They are basically like poles, nobody in the UK considers poles to be whites either.
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>>75398618
He can't into basic logic, leave him be, don't waste your time.
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So the stockprices would fall, because the club wouldnt be as competitive as before, if a player was hurt/killed, right?
But it could also be possible, the the club gains massive sympathy and popularity because of being the target of a bombing, and as a result people would buy their merchandise and shit like crazy, I could expect.
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>>75398684
>as a result people would buy their merchandise and shit like crazy
That could happen, but I'm going to go on a limb and say that many shareholders will be more afraid that the death of the players would also mean a severe cut of revenues from sponsorships, TV deals etc that this sympathy capital wouldn't cover (regardless of what will happen in the future) and sell.
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>>75398684
>>75398710
there would be an initial panic and drop in prices i assume
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>>75398710
that totally happen with the hue hue monley plane crash club right??
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>>75398728
I'm not sure Chapecoense is on the stock market
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>>75398618
You seem to be very carefully skirting around the periphery of the issue. It'll be interesting to see where exactly you decide to dive in.

Personally, the current publicized explanation seems solid. It makes sense, even in it's absurdity that was pointed out by others as that absurdity can be explained by the character of the russian criminal accused of the crime. And while I wouldn't go as far as to staunchly claim that a politicized de-escalation of the situation at the hands of the authorities is at play here, I would conceed that that is a plausible enough suggestion to propose as a possibility considering what we actually know about the events. Especially considering the political climate and the trustworthiness of Euro authorities at this time. So while the brit's opinion is being submitted without evidence, as I've already conceeded earlier as the case due to obvious reasons, in the scope of interpreting the events it's not satisfactory to just respond to it in the manner that our italian friend has chosen. Endless replies of "WOW! omg STUPID!" do not constitute an adequate refutation.

As to your post though, how have you not seen "who are you quoting?" before? Methinks thost dou not lurk too much.
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>>75395220
Isn't that a game mission in GTA5?
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>>75398728
They got a free trophy out of it, and I'm sure that'll be worth more than a plane full of brazilians.
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>>75398728
one share is two bananas worth
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>>75395331
this desu
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>>75398804
>I would conceed that that is a plausible enough suggestion to propose as a possibility
No, it would not. As I said, there have been dozens islamic attacks in the past years and none have been covered up.
In this very case the media proclaimed all over that they discovered islamic letters near the crime scene, and even said that the police arrested several islamic suspects.
They would have nothing to gain because one (failed) terror attack wouldn't change the mind of anybody on the subject. Nothing to gain either from hiding the truth at this stage and not from the beginning, when taking into account that someone spilling the beans would mean one of the biggest scandal of corruption in Germany for a long time (ever?), involving authorities, the police, and the media. All for a failed attack without any consequence.

So it's not only an unsubstantiated claim, it's also a stupid one.

>As to your post though, how have you not seen "who are you quoting?
Perhaps you've noticed, but using it when a (previously) quoted post is in the very thread, hell in the very discussion you're part of, is not a display of good will.
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>>75399035
The success or failure of the attack doesn't matter in this context. It was an attack on famous individuals, and on a nationally and internationally recognized icon. That is vastly different in the eyes of the general populace. It isn't a standard "12 generic civilians you never met died in an attack somewhere else" headline, this hits far closer to home for the general public because the victim is a recognizable and quantifiable aspect many people can feel connected to as part of their lives. And that emotionally brings the attack straight into the middle of the lives of millions of people. That is a powerful thing. A powerful shift in cultural impact that seperates it from other kinds of attacks. It's like the WTC in that regard; a symbol, desecrated. That fact that no one was killed won't change the intimacy in which this particular attack resonates throughout the populace which makes it special. And that is the motive your post was attempting to annul.

And fuck your good will nigger
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>>75395220
Nobody died, the russians have a weird sense of humour. It was just banter lol
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>>75395331
Russians don't give a single fuck
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>>75399178
>>75399178
>That is vastly different in the eyes of the general populace.
No, I don't think it is more powerful than children getting killed in the streets in terms of emotional response.

>that emotionally brings the attack straight into the middle of the lives of millions of people
As if people didn't care the other times innocent people were gunned down on the streets. Right.

And yes, the fact that it failed is indeed a huge factor? Do you think WTC would have the same impact on american culture if the 12th September headlines were "12 terrorists arrested"?
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>>75395331
t. Hans Kryzhechesaptski
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>>75399035
this

The backlash would be unheard-of if it turns out this was all just a hoax by the German government. Conspiracy theorists are retarded for not considering how many people would have to keep quiet in order to cover up something like this.
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>>75399336
>don't think it is more powerful than children getting killed in the streets in terms of emotional response
A handful, especially in the media, will loudly wail their emotional distress over the event. But most of the general populace will just tune it out like normal, because it's still just something that happened to "someone else, somewhere else".

>As if people didn't care the other times innocent people were gunned down on the streets
...The Right IS on the rise in Europe. They care. And in the eyes of the established authorities that might neccesitate a more hands-on approach to the societal fallout of future attacks.

>Do you think WTC would have the same impact on american culture if the 12th September headlines were "12 terrorists arrested"?
1993 was still a big fucking deal. You'd know if you lived back then.
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>>75399425
>it's still just something that happened to "someone else, somewhere else"
Perhaps you are projecting your insensitivity onto others, but al ot of people cared and care about children.
And perhaps those insensitive people wouldn't care either for rich people getting gunned down of a club most people don't support or care about.

I will just repeat myself, but the risk and cost of being discovered outweights far the coverup of a failed attack. In fact it would give their political adversary exactly what they want. There is, again, not much to gain here.

>1993 was still a big fucking deal.
Ah yes, let's compare 1993 and 2001 shall we.
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>>75395220

are slavs jews
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>>75399521
>Perhaps you are projecting your insensitivity onto others, but al ot of people cared and care about children
Or perhaps I'm just taking a wholly inclusive portrait of the general populace's long-term reaction to such events. It usually leans towards apathy. Even if many take the five minutes to pitymoan on social media, it still ends up being the end result.

>the risk and cost of being discovered outweights far the coverup of a failed attack
Risk depends on methods employed, which is key here. The cost of implementing such an operation for a 'mere' failed attack wouldn't be an extravagant stretch if you consider that this failed attack may be seen as a fortuitous opportunity used as a practice run for more important implementations in the future. Which it is the perfect candidate for.

>Ah yes, let's compare 1993 and 2001 shall we.
You wanted to compare the societal impacts of failed and successful attacks. 1993 may have been overshadowed in history by 2001, but it's cultural ripple was eerily similar.
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I had doubts it was carried out by ISIS since leaving a note saying "Yes it was us" is not how they operate. They just wait around until some one that is sympathetic to their cause carries something out and they go on social media boasting it was them a few hours later.
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