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/box/ - Garcia vs Thurman Live

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Starting right now lads.
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ZELENOFF GOAT
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Are they entering the ring yet?
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>>74505364
>my way
fucking fedora tipper
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Two pretty gay ring entrances here
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>>74505364

Got my money on Thurman

but Garcia walking out with that mask
looks intimidating as fuck
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>that mask
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12465632

Why does he wear the mask?
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nice nice
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>>74505364

memes aside, who has the best chance of winning?

It's Thurman for me, lads.
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>>74505396
They just did
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>>74505413
Thurman but I've doubted Garcia and got burned before
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Holy shit why
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What is it with faggot pad punch pussys wearing masks to the ring? You don't see this crap in MMA.
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If I took off that mask would he lose?
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>>74505413
head says danny heart says keith
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>>74505413
Thurman, easy work
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>>74505396
>>74505400
>>74505402
>>74505403

holy shit

>>74505396

they are
go to cbs the fight is free m8
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5,0000,00000,00000000,0000000000000000000000000000 $$$$$$$$$$

on Thurman
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>>74505405

Wilder has the better masked.

Plus he's a big guy
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mfw they go the distance
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OH SHIT!

GGG vs. Jacobs HBO 24/7 airs tonight, right?
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>>74505413

Thurman all day everyday
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>>74505462
this
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>>74505413
Heart says Thurman but brain says Garcia. Thurman has looked pretty rough sometimes and Garcia is pretty skilled and underrated despite being a huge cherry picker
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KEEEEEEF
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>>74505413
Danny with relative ease
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I'm getting hyped

HYPED
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>>74505499
yep at 730 pst
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I hope Thurman wins since he actually fights people. Garcia is the biggest fucking cherry picker. Wilder tier cherry picking
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Keith "Sometimes" Thurman, as Amir Khan calls him
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From what I understand Garcia is the bigger man
Thurman needs to weather the storm
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>>74505519

WUN
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>>74505508
Thurman one time ALL the time.
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any SD links?
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> there are Mexicans in Pennsylvania
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post your battle song
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>>74505583
he's a Puerto Rican
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Damn

I am COMFYYYY

for this fight

LETS GO!
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Danny Garcia looks SHOOK!

dat Broner in the back
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>>74505374
I don't know, I think his teeth aren't bad
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>winner gets promoted to wba 'super' world champion
good. the super belt should be unifications/top performers only. none of this chudinov groves shit.
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Need a shit lads
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thurman tko7 on cuts i think
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AB IN THE BACKGROUND!! LMAO
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they look like they are wearing colourful skirts
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great first round by danny so far
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FUCK YEAH

BEAT HIS ASS THURMAN
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Damn, dannys wobbly
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Is that Adrien Broner in the multi-colored hoodie?
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Now this is real boxing, not like that Britshit earlier
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BAD INTENTIONS
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>>74505688
posted too soon
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OHHHH SHIITTT WE HAVE A FIGHT!!!!!
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exceptional shit. wow.
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HEEM WOOBLY
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>>74505606
what's the difference
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1 Thurman

Garcia won the first half, but Thurman won the 2nd half with a right upper to seal it.
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thurman stole this round in the last minute
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Someone post a link to stream it please
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Jesus this is intense
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Holy shit
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WOIIIIIIII
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>>74505641

Based broner.
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>>74505737
>yanks talking like theyre on the telly
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ONE TIME BABY
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spotted khan as well
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these boys r throwin heat
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Fuck me that was a good round. I think Thurman might have stole it at the end
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Dannys still going to win. A few good hits wont stop him
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LMAO eat shit garcia-faggots
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GO GARCIA BABYYYYYYYYYY
MUH THURDMANN
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>>74505753
http://sportival.net/danny-garcia-vs-keith-thurman-box-live-stream/
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I put $400 doolers on this

How fucked am I?
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Give me a link lads!!
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Garcia is landing that left counter pretty well already
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>>74505824
www.google.com
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>>74505824
Shoulda signed up for a free cbs stream trial
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>>74505793
>>74505793
way to expose yourself for a casual kid
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and both streams died. jesus christ.
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shit man this is fucking awesome
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>>74505885
http://sportival.net/danny-garcia-vs-keith-thurman-box-live-stream/
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1-1
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1-1

Outside of one or two moments DSG has done the better work.
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>KEITH 'LAST SECOND' THURMAN
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1 Thurman
2 Garcia

Pretty shit 2nd round. Garcia with 2 clean shots on the face. One early on, the second on in the 40 second mark (a counter).
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Left hook ko coming for garcia
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Thurman is fucking lightning on the trigger
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>>74505824

It's on channel 2 numb nuts
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19-19
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>Broner wants to fight the winner of this hence he is actually at the fight.
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Things arent looking so good for garcia
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>>74505923
I feel it too
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I'm super hyped lads, I'm almost trembling
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Reminder that the first 4 rounds are where the fighters are feeling themselves out.

It looks like Danny has a plan so far with his baits, tho
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who took round two?
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>>74505944
My leg always shakes when it's a tense fight
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i got thurman 3-0
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looks like a great fight in between suttering.
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2-1 Thurman
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Garcia is going to go down for the first time in his career tonight.

and its going to be spicy.
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1 Thurman
2 Garcia
3 Thurman

Cagey third. Thurman establishing the jab, stubbed Garcia early, then worked a 1-2 on Garcia's chin. Garcia pushed back in the middle, but Thurman round.
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>>74505812
cheers m8
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I have it as a draw for all three

I think Thurman is going to break Danny down but goddamn Danny is crafty with those hooks like hell
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Thats a really close round that could go either way.

2-1 DSG
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Garcia is going to win this no doubt whatsoever
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Garcia 5-0
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Is there any new or incoming boxing game? I used to play the shit out of the fight night series.
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>>74506038
3rd was close but Garcia landed the hardest shots to the body
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>>74506045

Have you lost your mind

Thurman has been pushing the pace the whole fight

he's clearly winning
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>>74506045
>10-10 rounds

fuck off, carl
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I used to trip out on shrooms and smoke mad blunts w/ Thurman in highschool. Them were the days. He blasted me off with DMT for my first time ever. Super buddhist practices and always an expanded mind. Love the dude and would hate to see a lose mess up his momentum.
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2-2
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Danny in trouble
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2-2
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Now it's 2-2
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>>74506073
Damn. You beat me to it
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2-2
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1 Thurman
2 Garcia
3 Thurman
4 Garcia

Garcia pushed the pace for the first half and the last 30 seconds.

Landed some good body shots to Thurman. Thurman had a flurry at the last second, but came up short.
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Thurman has him figured out lads.

It's ogre for Garcia
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Reminder that Danny will get the decision if it's remotely close
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>>74506160
You have it backwards m80
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This is very enjoyable high quality, high speed boxing. Quite a contrast to the the haye bellew farce.
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south american bros, is this fight on tv, what channel?
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>>74506065
idk if theyd release the game now with new consoles coming with better hardware, vr compatibility + the time itll take to negotiate with these fighters & just imagine their demands? some fighters' egos are huge
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>>74506198
Welter will always be the GOAT division
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>>74506198
Haye is old and bellew was always sluggish

Never gonna be a good fight
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I've given up on trying to stream it.
keep me updated friends.
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>>74506065
The third was my fav. Pretty much de la Hoya simulator
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Great super high level fight
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1 Thurman
2 Garcia
3 Thurman
4 Garcia
5 Thurman

Uhhhh... a lot of shots landed by Thurman on the shoulders. Pretty even round. Again, flurries with 5 seconds remaining.
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3-2 Thurman

I don't think there will be any KDs, they are too good
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Did Thurman's glove touch the canvas there? That looked like he might have, but I couldnt be cerctain
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>>74506305
5 was easily a garcia round you fucking tip
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3-2 for T
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putting all my memes on a draw
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>>74506272
It was my favorite too. Perhaps the only game I have ever been good at.I remember I had a very good ranked record in the 360.
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Thurman gave him a lump on the side of his head
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>>74506326
Maybe if you've been drinking
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who are all those boring boring cunts in suits ringside
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3-3
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Garcia got dat
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Best Garcia round of the night
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3-3 now, heck
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1 Thurman
2 Garcia
3 Thurman
4 Garcia
5 Thurman
6 Garcia

Garcia controlling the middle of the ring. Again, nothing much landed by either. Garcia slipped through the guard 2 times and landed on Thurman's chin.

Thurman tried to work the body but Garcia's elbow blocked his shots.

>it's going to be a fucking draw
>both men keep their 0's
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3/2 T

GARCIA NEEDS TO GET A BLOW ON HIS HEAD

GIVE HIM YOUR POWER
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FUCKED UP SCORECARDS INCOMING
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Well, after how 1st round went, I thought Danny was a gonner. But lil fucker warmed up his chin and made adjustments.
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>Get Benty

what did thurman's shorts mean by this?
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>>74505413
I say the same. Thurman has a strong chin so it might negate garcias power. Thurman seems more active so I think he'll out point him.
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>>74506590
>dyslexia
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4-3 for G, it's all ogre now :(
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1 Thurman
2 Garcia
3 Thurman
4 Garcia
5 Thurman
6 Garcia
7 Garcia

Garcia got hit in the nuts but he got called to keep his punches up.

Not much landed by each this round.
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4-3 Keef

This is so close

I have a feeling the judges will give it to Danny and we're all gonna be pissed
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7th for danny
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4-3 DSG

Danny cant afford a deduction with a low blow. This is going to be tight on the cards
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>>74505445
MMA organizations tend to be more corporate and not so lenient when it comes to custom walk ins.
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Garcia has grown into this. Im still feeling a KO at some point. Round 10 imo.
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Keef really needs to start throwing more.
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>>74505519
Who's this keef you bongs speak of?
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1 Thurman
2 Garcia
3 Thurman
4 Garcia
5 Thurman
6 Garcia
7 Garcia
8 Thurman

Neither landed shit again. Saw Thurman landed 2 big punches, won me the round
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5-3 Keef for me but there are two or three that were hard to call
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>the absolute state of this crowd
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looks like 7/8 rounds are split between people here
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If Garcia leads more he could take these rounds.
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4-4
Lads, there is hope
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>>74506669
>This is so close
Danny isn't throwing enough and the ones he lands aren't hurting Thurman.
This fight is not close
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Danny needs to turn up, his waiting for opportunities/counter game plan isn't working
He's on his way to losing this fight
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What is this crowd's problem? Good fight imo
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>>74506890
6-2 Thurman
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1 Thurman
2 Garcia
3 Thurman
4 Garcia
5 Thurman
6 Garcia
7 Garcia
8 Thurman
9 Thurman

Neither landing shit again. Crowd booing. Thurman landed a left hook but missed the follow up upper.

Thurman with the tighter D.
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6-3 Keith

Draw minimum confirmed unless he touches canvas
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>>74506940
>What is this crowd's problem?
Its all casuals who thought Danny was going to knock Thurman out in 1 round
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Danny is doing fuck all.
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THURMAN LOOKS VERY CLOSE TO PASSING OUT
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Danny will lose
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Does Thurman get a contract with Head and Shoulders after he wins this?
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1 keith
2 danny
3 keith
4 danny
5 keith
6 danny
7 keith
8 keith
9 keith
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5-4 T
YES!
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Robbery incoming
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>>74506097
Nigga why would you lie on the internet?
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Restaurant jobs suck, gotta catch this bitch on YouTube later. Saw a small clip of round 5 it looked kind of sloppy, real scrappy maybe fatigue setting in.
Garcia has looked tame in some of his recent fights, and Thurman has been doing his thing but he hasn't been "one time" as he's entered the next tier of fighters.
Do either of them look sharp or tactful? Judging looks very back and forth has it been technical or just a barn burner?
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They're both trying to be smart. Good Decision for both
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incoming draw
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>>74505813
Where did you bet your money?>>74506097
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did anyone watch fonfara vs dawson?

was the stoppage justified
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Too close to call for me
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HERE WE GO BOYS
I HOPE SO
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1 Thurman
2 Garcia
3 Thurman
4 Garcia
5 Thurman
6 Garcia
7 Garcia
8 Thurman
9 Thurman
10 Thurman

Garcia matched pace with Thurman for the first 2 minutes, something not seen throughout the fight. Even though his work rate is higher, Thurman landed some bombs towards the last minute.
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6-4 Keef
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Danny deserves this loss.

>>74507106
it was a bit shit but Dawson was down a bit earlier.
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>>74506992
>Pours cheese sauce on a steak sandwich
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>>74506850

American crowds are rubbish compared to united kingdom crowds
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>Danny

JUST
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if garcia loses the next round its over for me, keith thurman is winning 6-4
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>>74507176
FIGHT.....
.....AND WIN
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Danny is gonna lose, he is seeking the win now, and thurman is securing it
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RUN TIME
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i wonder what hiro will do for april fools this year.
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>>74507176
The Mayweather Hatton fight was awesome, I love big drama fights and the UK crowd really helped
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Danny needs two knock downs to win on my card
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1 Thurman
2 Garcia
3 Thurman
4 Garcia
5 Thurman
6 Garcia
7 Garcia
8 Thurman
9 Thurman
10 Thurman
11 Garcia

Does Keith think he's winning? Is his corner telling him that's he's ahead?

Thurman backing up and countering with body shots, not much landed either way.
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dont be fucking stupid thurman
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Danny needs KO to win.
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Thurman is legit starting to run a little now
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>>74507270
He's the house fighter though.
Could be some bullshit on the official cards
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>>74506590
That's his trainer. Rip
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Angel Garcia is actually a pretty good cornerman
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Garcia needs a knock down to seal the deal
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>>74507280
Garcia has won 3 rounds at the most
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Garcia needs to pull the trigger
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Stop running Keith you faggot
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CBS just cut off my feed.

Faggots.
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Keith using the Mayweather playbook.
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STOP RUNNING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
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>>74507373
I used to like this guy

He won on my card, but dishonourably
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keith thurman is actually going to DeGale this fight.
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ROBBERY INCOMING
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Danny by 1
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Thurman all the way

If he loses I will quit boxing until they fix that shit
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God damn it I hate when trainers tel their guy to run like that. De la Hoya-Trinidad anyone?
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THURMAN WON, BUT IT WAS CLOSER THAN PEOPLE SAY

Garcia could have easily won if he'd been more aggressive. EASILY. Kinda played pussy to be honest. Ya gotta be savage.
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I feel that the judges will give it to Thurman, but I think Danny stole it with those rounds Thurman took off at the end.
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>>74507398

he ran for one round.

He made the rest of the fight, and came out swinging in the first round.
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Keith "Run Time" Thurman
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Keith 7-5. So Danny probably wins an SD with a 118 card.
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I wish title fights were still 15 rounds

Separates the men from the boys
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You have to beat the champ. Neither accomplished this. DRAW
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remember when niggerweather got his ass whooped by maidana twice?
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>>74507176
>rubbish
Go back to England, faggot
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Thurman won.
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1 Thurman
2 Garcia
3 Thurman
4 Garcia
5 Thurman
6 Garcia
7 Garcia
8 Thurman
9 Thurman
10 Thurman
11 Garcia
12 Thurman

Not sure what happened in the 12th. CBS cut off after the clock hit 8pm, so I had to watch on stream, caught the last 40 seconds.

If it happened like DLH vs. Trinidad, where Thurman ran towards the end, believing he's ahead, I can see a tie.

But I saw Thurman being busier in the last 40 seconds of the 12th, so 115-113 Thurman.

I can see it being a draw.
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Thurman is the better boxer, Garcia tried to do the same shit but early and he fucking couldn't do it
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>Keith 'Some Times' Thurman

Why are you fucking running in arguably the most important fight in US boxing since May vs. Pac for fucks sake.

Honestly I hope he fucking loses for that. That was legitimate running.
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IDK it's actually possible that Garcia won
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Danny "Gift" Garcia
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Reddit won lads
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Wow, I do not give a fuck about punch stats, doesn't mean anything.

STOP TALKING ABOUT STATISTICS REEEE
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Garcia taking the L here.
Apprehensive even when he was down in points.

Angel garcia and his corner came in low energy too
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>just got home
>missed the fight

GAY
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>>74507465
>12 Thurman
neh.
but Thurman won no doubt.
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Thurman Oscar De La Hoya'd this fight away, shame
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>>74507457
Once*
Maidana didn't do shit in the second fight.
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i really dont get why danny wears that creepy ass mask
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>>74507426
Yup. Thought that as well. Either Thurman thought he won wide or his fucking corner told him he is. Looked like he ran in the 11th, assumed he ran in the 12th.

>>74507498
Yeah, didn't see the whole thing. Fuck CBS.
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the more I think about it the more incredible I realize Garcia's fight really was

Thurman had some flash but dude it really might be Garcia seriously
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>>74507465
Garcia took the last 3.
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6-6 fucking hell :(
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>>74507429
>IT WAS CLOSER THAN PEOPLE SAY
Bullshit. Go be a wigger somewhere else
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I think Angel just told him he lost
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>>74507528
I think this might be true.
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garcia won 4 rounds max he got exposed
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Garcia just waited to counter him. Thurman controlled the pace for the last half
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Thurman is a fucking shithouse for that
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Thurman too athletic for danny
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>>74507524
Are you high?
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7-5 thurman for me
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>>74507525
Thurman went missing for the Championship rounds
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KEEEEFFFF WUUNNNNN TIMEEEE THURRRRRRRRMIIINNNNNN.......................................
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>>74507565
im high af senpai

thurman edges it
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>SD

JUST
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Thank God
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Jimmy Lennon Jr, always trolls by saying both titles in unification fights.
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Uuuff
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Garcia could easily won if he'd gone just like a bit harder

A TINY BIT dude

Fair and fucking square for Thurman, great fight. One of the better fights I've seen to be honest
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Thank God Thurman won.
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116-112 113-115 115-113 Keith Thurman
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I think Thurman gave some rounds away that could've solidified his win even more
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GARCIA BLUE BALLED
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Split decision stupidity but the right winner won
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Bad match up.
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>danny thinks he won

lmaooooo
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Yup, had it 115-113 Thurman. Saw it either tight for Thurman or a draw.

Would like to see the scorecards and see how mine compared.

>clear victory

Fuck you Thurman.
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SD fuck
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Thurman Garcia II when?
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>>74507612
Yep.
I knew Thurmans speed and movement would give a notoriously slow fighter in Garcia problems but he really spent the entire fight waltzing around the ring doing absolutely nothing.
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>
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lmao
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I need to watch more of this sport.
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Danny was robbed
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I could see Pacquiao winning against these 2.

I could see Brook beating both their asses too.
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>>74507669
Robbed himself
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>clear victory
maybe if you stopped running
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Fuck all these plebs. If Garcia didn't want Thurman to move he should've cut the fucking ring off
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>>74507669
>puerto Rican detected
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>all that philosophical wisdom from Thurman

lmaooooo
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>>74507658
Garica has always been a slow plodding counter puncher. He has Canelo's slow feet and none of the skills up top.
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Keith "Sometimes" Thurman
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>>74507682
t. mong

night lads
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i was wrong for thinking these two were p4p top 10 worthy
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I mean all Danny had to do to win is be like 20% less of a pussy and be like 20% more aggressive

It was his fight if he'd just pushed more
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>>74507472
He knew he had enough rounds and ran to keep his health and his 0
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>>74507640
It was clear though?
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>>74507675
the pac of old sure

not now, brook would prolly heem
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>>74507666
Watch Thurman's previous fight against Porter, it was much better
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>>74507444
this
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THURMAN [147/570, 25%]

GARCIA [130/434, 29%]

Here are the stats.
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>>74507716
same senpai
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>>74507706
ONE TIME ALL THE TIME
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>>74507675
Easily. Pac is still the best at 147. Can't wait for Brook v. Spence though. Spence looks like he could own welterweight one day.
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Garcia - Spence will be a great fight
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>>74507669
Even Angel doesn't think Danny was robbed he can't handle lateral movement
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>>74507719

Thurman raped him in the first 3 rounds, then after that it was back and forth. Thurman won it in the first 3, and nearly lost it in the last 3.
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>>74507675
Errol Spence would beat all of them
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Blacks beat spics again
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>>74507735
>>74507666
Honestly the porter fight is FOTY for me last year
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>>74507748
Spence would kill PAC already. Brook would probably beat PAC too desu
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>>74507743
Thurman threw all of those in the first 4 rounds.

Danny was too slow off the blocks.
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>>74507734
Nah. I see old as fucking 38 year old Pac still winning.4

8-4 or 7-5.
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>>74507775
>thurman
>black
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>>74507791
>>74507769
Spence hasn't beaten anybody
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Was Thurman running because he was gassed or because he knew he had enough rounds and didn't want to take anymore damage?
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>>74507716
Thurman is still only the 3rd best welterweight in my view
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>>74507801
Pac would just ghost them.
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>Garcia humiliated and exposed

oh how i told you all this day would come. garcia fans BTFO into eternity
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>>74507808
He didn't look remotely gassed to me
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Thought it was gonna be another DLH vs. Trinidad with how the last 2 rounds went.
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>>74507661
Cuck
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>>74507518
Garcia already following the readymade narrative complaining about the running, it's an easy way to drop a fucking stink bomb even if the decision was wider. Still, it's 100% on Thurman's trainer, can't blame the guy for following his corner's instructions.

Even if you're in another guy's hometown there's usually a limit to how badly you can get jobbed. If you can get past a few swing rounds you can still win, you gotta press on no matter what.
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>>74507775
spics beat bongs all the time, don't get too proud lad
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>>74507824
which part of Ireland?
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>>74507828
>Garcia humiliated and exposed

I don't know if losing a close split decision in a unification fight = getting humiliated and exposed.
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>>74507854

The south, the deep south, hahahahaha.
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Bradley really needs to fucking come back.

How do you think Bradley would do vs. these 2?
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>>74507803
Not yet but will
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>>74507808
His trainer told him to, said he had the fight in the bag.
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That's what I mean by tame, Garcia plays it too cool, this was actually a smart fight and even a safe fight for Thurman to have taken and he still didn't wow. Tired of these shit talkers.
Porter has so much heart the dude just can't fucking box, he was someone else I wanted to be good. I mean he's not shit but damn, work behind your jab or something
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Brook vs Spence is the real welterweight fight to watch
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Pretty clear Thurman win. Interesting to see him fight so carefully though. I guess he just really didn't give a fuck when fighting Porter
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>>74507803
He stopped the guy PAC couldn't in Algeri, He'll steamroll brook, name someone at 147 who can stop him? PAC is shot, and a small guy, Spence is 5 inches taller than Pacman, would come in heavier and hits harder. I'd worry for Manny's health if he fought Spence
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>>74507874
Hes brain dead
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Why can't spics compete with blacks?

JCC got BLACKED by sweatpea
Marquez by Mayweather
Barrera by junior
JCC and Coralles by Mayweather
Morales by Zahir
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>>74507871
>close split decision
61% of twitter had thurman
Unofficial Scorer had Thurman 116-112

The Judges only agreed on 4 out of the 12 rounds but the final 2 rounds literally determined the fight
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>>74507908
Pac was an old man when he fought Chris
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>>74507874
I don't know how good Bradley is now. He's getting old. He had his worst performance against Pac, and the fight before that he was saved by the bell against Vargas.
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>>74507769
LMAO, the moment he has to do VADA he is going to get wrecked.
In fact Brook is going to wreck him.
>>74507675
He could easily beat Danny, like Harrera did and Thurman is too slow and too fragile to take Pacquiao's power shots all night, Thurman panics and folds when pressured.
Which is why he won so easily tonight, Danny can't cut off the ring for shit, is unwilling to initiate first, would not pressure Thurman only followed him and is in either defensive mode or offensive mode he can't do both on the fly.
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>>74507908
If only Pac was 7-8 years younger.

That fight would be fucking SPICY!
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>>74507925
>Still this mad JCC BTFO Taylor

lmao
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I can't be bothered to search the archive for my posts saying that Thurman would win comfortably based primarily on his footwork but you all remember them
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>>74507945
And he'd be younger if he fought Spence?? What is your point?
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>>74507675
Thurman is at least a 50-50 chance or better against any welterweight on the basis that he's so mobile and awkward that he's difficult to track down.

Garcia has better feet than Brook and he still couldn't catch Thurman.

In saying that Thurman's style is shit to watch because he just runs so damn much. At least when Floyd did it you could see he would counter on the move and set traps change looks defensively that it was at least interesting. Thurman just runs and runs and runs.
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>>74507902

That was a great fight until Thurman decided he didn't want it anymore. Garcia won most of the exchanges in the last 6 rounds, Garcia lost this early, Thurman showed weakness in the back end, he really didn't want to mix it up late, shame, it could have been a great fight if Thurman didn't try to spoil, hence we got a spoiled fight.
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Thurman just didn't want to kill Garcia

You see, in the first round, Thurman almost KOed Garcia, Garcia was afraid

He saw that it would have been too savage to kill the guy in the ring, so he changed to the technical Thurman and won like that
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>>74507973
He was past his prime, prime pac would have flattening chris
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>>74507976
>Garcia has better feet than Brook
Are you high?
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>>74507954
Thurman would Juan Manuel Manny. PAC has no chin anymore
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>>74507998
keke
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>>74507998
>You see, in the first round, Thurman almost KOed Garcia, Garcia was afraid
Garcia ate his punches, never troubled by them seriously.
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>>74507967
It was in a reply to me. I said Garcia would make it easy work. I guess I was just prepping myself to be disappointed again. Boy am I glad Thurman won. Fuck Garcia and his faggot dad. THe look on his face when the decision was read was worth the price of admission alone.
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>>74507948
Bradley's wife fucked him over.

>le firemen
>le go forward and fight Pacquiao
>le go forward and fight Provodnikov

Absolutely retarded.
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>>74507716
You've got no idea what you're talking about.

This was a boring fight but that doesn't mean these aren't elite fighters.
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>>74507978
Lmao why not blame Garcia for not engaging more? That's honestly what lost him this fight, had he just thrown more he would've taken rounds but he just waited for Thurman to start throwing
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>>74508000
Probably, but we can't turn back the clock, my point is that Spence would demolish everyone at welterweight, Pacman included before moving up
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Good fight good thread /box/ in such good shape
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>>74508035
They're still not even #1 in their own division though so how could they be on the pound for poud list
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>>74507716
Garcia has already be beaten twice before and I personally thought he lost against Porter.
Brook would probably KO Thurman and Garcia easily, if he can still make 147 healthy.
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>>74507666

the power of christ compels you

seriosuly though

I wouldn't make it a habit
most boxing fights are snooze fests
this was the odd fight that was actually good
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I wonder how Haymon is feeling right now.

$4M purse for the main card while everyone is fucking booing. I'd imagine casuals watching this is turned off boxing as well.
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>when you are poor, so you gave boxing a chance again tonight, but it basically just reminded you why boxing is not a sport, because it is empty of any semblance of competitive tension

>fucking pillowtaps

There is no fear in the sport. It's basically a glorified dance, and you can watch the "in the ring" negotiations and agreements between the two 'fighters' take place in real time. The terms of what kind of show to put on is constantly being discussed between the two 'fighters'.

Why do you watch this crap, /sp/?
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These captchas are brutal to solve after a few drinks, fuck me
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>>74508075
Personally thought that Thurman lost to Porter, is what I meant to say.
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>>74507976
Have you watched his fights with Porter or Guerrerro? Thurman's usually a banger
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>>74508044

Thurman said it before the fight, and it did it on the night.

> move, not wait for Garcia to throw

that is what he did, he ran, took pot shots in the later rounds, didn't get involved, which is why one judge gave him the fight.
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>>74508102
because its all ive got left
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>>74507512
He should have to wear a Keith Thurman mask from now on
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>>74508102
The Haye vs Bellew fight was low quality compared to Thurman vs Garcia but it was tense as fuck
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My completely subjective top 5 Welters based on record, current form, and eye test.

1. Pac
2. Spence
3. Thurman
4. Brook
5. Garcia

I fully expect Spence to be 1 in a year, but he's fought too few people for me to now put him over Manny.
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>>74508075
>>74507716
p4p is retarded, Roman Gonzalez could not do shit at 220IBs, Tyson Fury is a genius at 120IBs
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>>74507808
He knew he was up on the cards. But more importantly he was more successful in that phase of the fight.

When he ran Garcia couldn't land on him but in the middle rounds when they engaged in close quarters they were both landing, but Garcia probably had the better chin so that was the only way Garcia could win.
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>>74508166
>having big nipple dude that high
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>>74508166
>Record

Spence shouldn't be 1st then
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Thought Keef won it pretty clearly. I stopped scoring after the 5th or so cuz' that shit was boring af.

Garcia's been getting gifts for years now. Fuck him. Keef sucks too desu.

I'd take an old ass Pac to starch either these queers. That was Haymons best. lmao.
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>>74508102

You don't box so you don't get it
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>people calling it a shit fight
thought it was really good 2bh
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>>74508102
>he can't appreciate boxing

i feel bad for you. stick to mma pleb
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>>74508299


> running away to win
> great

This is why our generation will never have the greatest fights of all time.

The greats in the past, didn't run away when the met each other.
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FYI Thurman hasn't got any KOs at the barclays.
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>mfw Pacquiao is legitimately still the best from 140-147.

Him and Floyd really set the bar stupidly high.
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>>74508260
Record is just a part of it. Spence's record is bad, but he passes the eye test better than anyone other than Pacquiao.
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>>74507675
I don't see Pac winning against Thurman and I definitely don't see him winning against Garcia. Have you seen his last fight? Vargas and Algieri were both able to tag him. Garcia would knock him out
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>>74508102
Back to /heem/, faggot
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>>74508337
go back and watch some of those great fights firend
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>>74508277
PAC would get one timed by Keith, he'd probably beat Danny though
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>>74507905
Porter's legs are really underrated, he's a physical bully style fighter but he is very athletic as well and he was able to chase Thurman down and consistently pressure him when he was running. That made Thurman switch it up and engage more and he was able to counter punch Porter and score that way. If he would of run the whole fight I think he would've lost.
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>>74508337
How much did you pay for those rose tinted glasses?
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>>74508337

Why would kieth still trade when he was comfortably ahead?

Did you not see what happened to Sergio Martinez in the Jcc Jr fight?
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>>74508102
Continue watching boxing but just don't watch black fighters, there now you can enjoy the sport.
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>>74508382

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VI-M9Yw-28
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGLL0itOAe8
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>>74508073
How many threads today?

Like 5?
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>>74508337
Stop acting like he ran the whole fight. He took it to him in the first half. DSG can't handle movement. Also tell your boy Danny to learn to cut off the ring, and ask him why he's nicknamed swift?
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>>74508399
Porter- Garcia would be a great fight
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Good day lads

Haye got btfo
Danny btfo
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>>74508102
Every fight isn't going to be the Superbowl shithead. We watch because we like watching guys bop each other in the head, and on the oft chance that a middling fight will turn into a glorious barnburner.

Every once in awhile we're rewarded but the odds favor a Superbowl 50-like shitfestival. We watch because we're fans of the "sport".

But I'll concede that the sport has gotten much shittier in the second half of this decade. I still haven't gotten over the Kovalev robbery.
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>>74508397

Keef couldn't set up a shot for the life of him. He telegraphs everything. I'm shocked Garcia didn't catch him coming in all sloppy like that. Pac is much sharper with everything he does.
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>>74508447

We call that light work at /box/.

We are the past, present and future of shitposting.

All work is easy work. We are truly blessed. Handwork and Dedication.
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>>74508423
>Why would kieth still trade when he was comfortably ahead?
On one card he was not, he only won by 2 rounds on the other. That was not how you close a fight, did you hear Sugar Ray in commentary? He was literally begging Thurman to close it like a champ, didn't happen though. He closed it like a coward.
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Punished Garcia will return better

You either win or you learn
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>>74508477
Haye only lost due to injury. Danny lost cause he's not good
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>>74508497
>Kovalev robbery.
Kovalev got absolutely smashed and it wasn't even close. People who think Sergey was ever in it bar the first two rounds are delusional aren't familiar with the sport of boxing.
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>>74508463

He raped Garcia in the first 4 rounds, that was about it. Not close to being a great fight, or fighter.
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>>74508423
To put on a show, to entertain the fans so they want to see you again, to become a huge earner.
It is an entertainment sport after all, if they don't want that fine, play it safe but I don't wan to hear whining about how they are owed more because they got the V but put off the fans.
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>>74508474
Hopefully this is the level of competition Danny fights now that he lost his zero. PBC has tons of good welters for him to go up against.
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>>74508166
Spence isn't ANYWHERE near the top if you take a biopsy of his fucking nipples.
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>>74508499
PAC gets hit by everyone his last few fights. Keith would inevitably land, and it'd take years off Manny's life
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>>74508397
Didn't Porter hurt Keith really badly in the 12th with a body shot?
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>>74508511
>He closed it like a coward
He fought smart not stupid. Calling fighters cowards is fucking tactless
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>>74508531
Danny is better than haye
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>>74505812
thank you
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>>74508549
Still enough to to handle Danny, so that's all that he needs to be right now
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>>74508477
Nah, he lost this fight now he's going to cherry pick again to make himself look good.
Garcia vs Salka 2-The Fight No One Wanted The First Time Around
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>>74508599
>Keith
Garcia ate his punches, violent as they were, they were not horrifying blows by any standard.
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>>74508548
>Kovalev got absolutely smashed
Which is why Ward looked like he got into a car accident after 12. Take Andre's dick out of your mouth and watch the fight without blinders on. Kovalev won and it wasn't even close and even Andre knew that. Only TMT cockmonglers saw the fight the other way.
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>>74505746
If there's one thing all latinos agree on, is that they all hate Puerto Ricans. PR are more on the black side.
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>>74508352
>tfw Pacquiao weighs in at 144 and doesn't even drain

Imagine him being in 135 and never moved up (except to capture belts at 140/147/154)
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>>74508619
Thurman stunned Porter twice in that fight. he also wobbled Garcia bad this fight.

Neither of those two fighters have appeared to be hurt despite both having faced top punchers in the past.

Thurmans power is real
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>>74508622

Again, this is why we don't get the Greatest Fights of All Time, as pieces of shit like you are happy to substitute Greatness for being Smart.
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What fight do you want to see more?

Pacquiao vs Thurman at 147

or

Pacquiao vs Crawford at 140
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>>74508500
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>>74508352
They're top 20-25 all time greats. What did you expect?
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>>74508074
Thurman's the only unified champ in the division so that alone gives him a strong case for #1 welter.

Pacquiao obviously has the better resume but his career is winding down.

The Brook Spence winner will be Thurmans only real competition in the division.

And if Brook does win you have to factor in his weight because he has to move up soon because he's killing himself to make 147
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>>74508442
>cherrypicking fights that are commonly brought up in the GOAT fight conversation.
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>>74508679
>wobbled Garcia bad this fight.
Don't know what fight you were watching, Garcia's face didn't look too bashed up tbqh, Thurman's cheeks looked pretty swelled too.
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>>74508697
Crawford

unorthodox Pac vs unorthodox Keith would be shit, just a bunch of winged haymaykers.
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>>74508626
How so?
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>>74508075
>if he can still make 147 healthy.
Pro-tip: he can't
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>>74508735
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB_Nk4L2oHc
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>>74508656
>Which is why Ward looked like he got into a car accident after 12
What he looked like after the fight is irrelevant to the scoring, sorry.

>Take Andre's dick out of your mouth
I actually wanted Kova to win, but I'm not going to sit here an pretend like he did anything outside of rounds 1, 2 and 10. The fact is that Ward adapted in the fight and Kovalev didn't.
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All in all, this fight was a close match to Mayweather vs Pacquiao.

Thurman just fought a little longer.
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>>74508548
You're a fucking idiot, Kovalev clearly won, this is the fight that seperates chumps from those that know what they are watching.
Even the crowd that booed Kovalev in the beginning knew they saw a robbery which is why they ended up booing Ward and cheering for Kovalev, a Russian in the US was being cheered at the end of the fight, do you understand how significant that is you idiot?
Even Ward knows he lost that fight which is why he's trying to puss out of the legally obligated rematch.
Ward is a cherry picking bitch hypejob.
He's going to get destroyed by Kovalev in the rematch, KOed by Steveson, demolished by Beteirbeiv and so on.
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>>74507828
This is the third time he's been exposed. Especially that Herrera fight, got he's assed own in Puerto Rico trying to gain a fanbase only to end up looking like a chump.
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>>74508647
Implying Thurman wasn't content outboxing Garcia this fight? The man's KO ratio speaks for itself, also Manny doesn't have the chin of Garcia these days
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>>74508760
Not him but his comment about what they looked like was in response to you saying Kovalev was smashed you fucking retard.
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>>74508442
You don't need to go back decades for a great fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss-emvdn6H8
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>>74508764
This was nothing like that fight. Mayweather won that fight hands down. This fight was pretty close at some points
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>>74508793
>KO ratio
In his first fights.

Only two great light weights out there right now.

> Mikey Garcia
> Lomachenko
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>>74508764
No, this fight was competitive, Pacquiao was embarrassed
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>>74508442
>Leonard vs Hearns

>"Leonard runs from Heans and then Hearns runs from Leonard" the fight

idiot
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>>74508109
Guerrero fight he felt the need to put on a show because Guerrero is shot and hasn't got the power to do shit.

He ran from Porter and then only started to engage with him because Porter was cutting off the ring and pressuring him constantly which forced Thurman to change his gameplan.

Thurman only fights if you make him fight. He's definitely not a banger and he's not aggressive or entertaining.
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>>74508799
kek, Mayweather, what a joke.

> Spoiler
> Good Fighter
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>>74508782
>He's going to get destroyed by Kovalev in the rematch, KOed by Steveson, demolished by Beteirbeiv and so on.
This is nothing other than a power fantasy and nothing more.
Ward won. Deal with it.
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>>74508793
>The man's KO ratio speaks for itself

Thurman's power disappeared the moment he faced better opponents. His KOs against nobodies doesn't mean much now at the world level.
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>>74508793
>Manny doesn't have the chin of Garcia these days
What makes you think that Pac is going to be eating those punches like that?
Pac is still faster than Thurman even at that age.
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>>74508760
The bottom line is youre either biased or stupid as fuck if you think Ward won that fight. Kovalev bullied him the entire fight and outboxed him. Kov won both the fight and the boxing match. Its mindboggling how anyone can see it any other way, but again youre trolling.,
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>>74508759
>>74508022
>>74507998

This is what i meant, look that video, it was in the first round

After that Thurman decided that it wasn't worth it, that Garcia wasn't great, and he went for the points
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>>74508166
That's a sound ranking
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>>74508842

> fight left in doubt
> conclusive victory

moron
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>>74508855
Tell me why Ward is not giving the rematch if he won so clearly?
Tell me why the crowd turned on him?
Once again you're a fucking idiot, Kovalev outlanded Ward in almost every round and landed the harder shots, how did Ward win if that is the case?
Not to mention the knock down.
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>>74508782
>Andre Ward is a cherry picking bitch hypejob
The man is an Olympic gold medalist who cleaned out 168, whatever your opinion on the Kovalev fight is, this statement alone makes you a fucking idiot
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>>74508862
Pac ate punches against Vargas although nothing big. His defense is in the shitter now although it was never that amazing in the first place.
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>>74508715
And Brook's shatter eye.

Brook's so fucking fat. He only has a couple of months before the fight and he's fat as shit.
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>>74508941
They sent him to a hot climate to sweat it out.
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>>74508855
Ward was gifted a win, even Ward knows he didnt win that fight.
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>>74508337
SRL ran all the time, Ali ran, Oscar ran, Willie Pep ran.

You use what ever you have to win.

If you born with an iron chin and punching power you brawl, if you're born with brains and agility you box and move.
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>>74508884
>youre either biased or stupid as fuck
Can you please explain why I'd want some fucking half-breed to win? Does this make any sense to you? It's not as if Ward is an exciting fighter, and certainly not as exciting as Kovalev. Ward landed the more cleaner shots and dictated the pace of the fight, whether you like it or not, and I sure as fuck don't like it either.
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>>74508941
There are rumors that GGG fucked him up too bad and he's not the same anymore
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>>74508926
He did not clean out 168, he ducked both Dirrels, DeGale and Bute.
He beat Kessler while being incredibly dirty and Froch a one dimensional fighter perfectly made for his style.
At 175 he only fought one ranked fighter, Kovalev, the other one was ranked 23 and the other was even a 175, a 40 year old 168 pound fighter that never accomplished anything, that's great to you? Also why do you think that is?
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>>74508884
Do you sleep with a signed picture of Sergei under your pillow? It was a close fight, Kovalev didn't bully him the entire fight, the only real punches of note he landed were rounds 1 and 2, Ward did extremely well to come back from that though
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>>74508991
>box and move.
There's a tact to it, modern fighters don't have the class to do it right, like tonight, that fight was left in doubt.

Lomachenko boxes and moves, ghosts and strikes, then gets out of the kill zone. Just running away for 75% of the time is not box and move.
>>
Thurman vs. Garcia
Brook vs. Spence
Manny vs Khan
Porter vs Berto

2017 is shaping up to be the best year for Welterweight in ages.
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>>74508922
>Tell me why Ward is not giving the rematch if he won so clearly?
He doesn't have to give him a RM, he doesn't even have to fight ever again.

>Tell me why the crowd turned on him?
Crowds are filled with casuals who don't understand how to score a boxing match. And I believe you're overstating how pro-Ward the crowd was.

>Kovalev outlanded Ward in almost every round and landed the harder shots, how did Ward win if that is the case?
Kovalev landed harder shots, yes, but he could only really score with pitter-patter shots from inside the clinch. Ward isn't a power hitter like Kova, but he landed the cleaner shots by far.

>Not to mention the knock down.
lol. Scoring a KD /= winning the fight.
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Le Reddit aggregate scoring has it 115-113 Thurman
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>>74509032
>Ward did extremely well to come back from that though
Ah, so you are one of those, you didn't actually score the rounds it's all relative to you, you based it on your feelings, because you felt he did better than the previous round, so even when he got hurt, outlanded and outboxed, the fact that he didn't' go down and land a punch or two made you FEEL like he achieved something.
You're blind to reality, you are basing the fight on your feelings.
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>>74508497
Kovalev did fuck all and gassed out. He was unimpressive and only has himself to blame that he couldn't beat a rarely active, past his prime SMW coming up to your division.

Dick riders are just mad because they invested their hopes and dreams on to this cunts wagon and then the first legit challenge he got he shit the bed big time.
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>>74509023
He fought alongside the Dirrel brothers at amateur, correct me if I'm wrong but I don't remember them calling each other out ever? Degale wasn't calling him out back then either, and wasn't as big a name. Saying he ducked people who didn't want to fight him or weren't at that level/available to be fought is stupid. I'm surprised you aren't saying he ducked GGG too
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>>74507758
garcia gets butchered if he performs the same way.
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>>74509047
tfw no Super 8 tournament

#AllTheFuckingBelts
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>>74509136
He beat Jean Pascal and Nathan Cleverly.
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>>74508499
His right hand uppercut is short and sharp, he beat Garcia to the body with it. I think with Thurman though because he has a bit of an awkward style people miss some of his skill and sharpness. But he is fast and skillful. It just looks shit compared to Mayweather and Pacquiao.
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>>74508891
I don't know why you're replying to me. Somebody wanted to know when Garcia was wobbled and I showed them.
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>>74508899
You fucking said old fighters didn't run. There was a shit ton of running in that fight. Stop changing the goalposts you fucking retard.
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>>74508531
>Haye only lost due to injury
Haye's fucking autobiography in a nutshell.
>Excuses.
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>>74509135
Whereas Kovalev landing the harder shots made you FEEL like he achieved something. If you land all the best shots they should affect your opponent after the second round m8. In reality Kov achieved an L, while Ward landed the cleaner shots and made Kov miss like an idiot for half the fight, before taking home his belts
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>>74507871
>>74507927
yeah and bradley beat pacquiao the first time

disgusting
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>>74509139
Dude, he vacated his belt because at 168 because Anthony Dirrell was his mandatory, who was absolutely willing to fight him.
He talked about not wanting to fight Andre Dirrell because they trained together but I don't actually think Andre Dirrell said he wouldn't fight Ward.
He had negotiations with Degale that he pulled out of in favor of I think Delvin Rodriques or maybe Smith, after which Degale talked shit about Ward for pulling out of negotiations, look it up on Youtube, DeGale said it himself.
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>>74508578
what did he mean by this?
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>>74509241
Do you honestly think Bellew would have won if Haye wasn't injured? He couldn't hit a one legged man, and was getting gassed trying
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>>74509255
this is far from bradley v pac 1

thurman actually won this fight
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>>74508679
>Thurmans power is real
No
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>>74509061
>He doesn't have to give him a RM, he doesn't even have to fight ever again.
He's contractually obligated to give him a rematch, if he plans fighting in the near future, but since he's such a pussy, he'll probably just have another mini reitirement or vacate more belts.
A knockdown adds another point to the lead which is why it's relevant.
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>>74509288
Are you trying to say he was afraid of losing at 168 so he stepped up to fight the most dangerous guy at 175?
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>>74509241
This wasn't the Wlad fight. Haye was taking over when his Achilles gave out. And even when he only had 1 leg he still won a round or two. Bellew was terrible the whole fight.
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>>74509381
Just cause he's not knocking guys out left and right doesn't mean he's powerless.
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>>74508697
Pac vs Crawford.

Which obviously more likely to happen because of PBC-Haymon-HBO-Arum politics.

However I don't think either is likely because Pacquiao has already been offered that fight and turned it down even though Arum wanted the Crawford fight.

It looks like Pacquiao is gonna take easy money fights to wind down his career, and fair enough.
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>>74509384
>He's contractually obligated to give him a rematch
Not if he retires.

>A knockdown adds another point to the lead which is why it's relevant.
I'm familiar with how a match is scored.
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>>74508764
Mayweather schooled Pacquiao, whereas this was a lot closer. Also this fight was a bit flat whereas MayPac had tonnes of tension boiling beneath the surface.
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>>74508619
Don't remember that but Collazo had him in all kinds of trouble with body shots. I really thought Garcia's hook to the body would be more effective but maybe he just can't hit at 147.

>>74509023
DeGale hadn't made a name for himself yet and Bute wouldn't leave his hometown. Andre Dirrell was part of the Super Six tournament and they could have fought.
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>>74507925
>forgetting gervonta davis vs pedroza
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>>74508782
>Ward is a cherry picking bitch hypejob.
That just there shows you never knew this cunt until he was fighting ya boy Kovalev.

Olympic Gold medalist, unified lineal and ring champ at 168, entered the super 6 and took on the best competition in the division when everyone thought he wouldn't, then beat Chad Dawson the champ at 175 and then still went up in weight to fight a "monster" in Kovalev and won.

If he was ever anything it wasn't a cherry picker.
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>>74508835
Lmao, pac won.
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>>74508821
>Only two great light weights out there right now.
>> Mikey Garcia
>> Lomachenko
Robert Easter is seriously dangerous and trouble for anyone in the division, even Loma.
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>>74509551
I can't see why he would retire. I don't think he's made all that much in his career since he's such a weak draw and he's only 33 with a good style
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>>74508884
Kovalev barely engaged and was looking confused and lost the whole second half of the fight. When he did occasionally land he clearly was the more powerful man but he didn't know how to get to his usual spots to land his shots and he couldn't figure Ward out.
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>>74508447
#StayHumble
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>>74508922
>Once again you're a fucking idiot, Kovalev outlanded Ward in almost every round and landed the harder shots
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>>74509404
No, he fought weak opposition because he was given some control of picking his opponents, which showed his true nature, a cherry pick pussy, which resulted in them losing money on Ward, overpaying him to fight trash oppostion, so they made him take the fight against Kovalev to try to recoup their losses.
Which is why despite being able to make another big pay day, Ward is stalling the rematch he is supposed to give Kovalev on the contract he signed.
>>74509575
http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/4/12/2943180/andre-ward-says-he-wanted-to-fight-lucian-bute-butes-team-disagrees
This mentions the bullshit Ward was pulling, he wouldn't fight Bute until he proved himself, then when Bute signs to fight Froch, then he talks about disappointed he was that Bute took another fight instead of fighting him, Ward is a guy that is full of shit.
Don't just believe him when he speaks, he always has an excuse as to why he doesn't have to fight a guy, he's always finding excuses as to why he doesn't have to fight guys and then when those sign another fight he comes out and talks about how he would have fought them, he's done multiple times.
He's probably trying to do the same thing with Kovalev, wait him out until he gets fed up because he can't sign fights and make money until this shit with Ward gets sorted out, but if he does make a fight with somone else, just wait, Ward is going to come out again talking about how disappointed he is that fight didn't happen.
>>74509734
>That just there shows you never knew this cunt until he was fighting ya boy Kovalev.
I've been following Ward since 2008, I know exactly what he's about.
As for Dawson he was drained at 168 where the fight took place and if you knew anything about Dawson at 175, you knew that he had an iron chin, on top of that Ward is a light puncher, yet Ward was able to stop and easily hurt Dawson.
Dawson was drained, so much so that anybody could have beaten Dawson that night, it ruined his career.
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>>74508922
>>74510088
Kovalev won the 2nd and the 10th by large margins but the rest was very, very close.

Your bias is clear when you say Kovalev outlanded Ward in almost every round, because we can see they had 6 rounds each.

Clearly as the judges thought some of those close rounds that only had a difference of 1 to 3 punches landed went to Ward because he landed cleaner shots.

It was a fair result, bad luck if your guy lost but don't be bitch about just move on.
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>>74508530
how can you unlearn canelo tier flat footed-ness
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>>74510088
On that he has half the rounds out landing him, but if you have watched enough fights and heard the commentators themselves speak about it, they tell you it is no meant to be taken literally, but as a guide for the sense of the round.
But I know what I saw, Kovalev outlanded Ward more than just 6 of the rounds, even if you take that punch count at it's word, that's Kovalev still landing the harder shots, outlanding Ward in six with an extra point for the knockdown, so even with this inaccurate punch count, Kovalev still wins.
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>>74509023
Him and the Dirrels were never going to fight because they're friends so no one ducked anyone there but Ward is the clearly superior fighter. Bute ducked Ward so get that straight, he was the one who bitched out of the super 6, which was what everyone thought Ward would do. DeGale has only risen to prominence in the last couple of years, basically since Ward has been injured, inactive and then moving up.

All the bums at 175 was because he was only going there for Kovalev so they were just tune up fights.
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>>74509043
>modern fighters don't have the class to do it right
>Lomachenko
you just contradicted yourself, go to bed cunt.
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>>74509061
>>Tell me why Ward is not giving the rematch if he won so clearly?
>He doesn't have to give him a RM, he doesn't even have to fight ever again.
To me Ward has been looking a lot older and slower lately and Kovalev could be heaps more effective in a rematch if he fixes his stamina. So its probably a risk he doesn't need to take.
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>>74510206
Look, not one judge gave Kovalev the 10th round, even though everyone agrees that he won the 10th, he hurt Ward in that round.
Why do you think that is?
They fucking robbed Kovalev, everyone fucking knows this, the crowd knew it, everyone that looked at the scorecard and saw that no judge gave Kovalev the 10th knows this and the 10th round was not the only one they gifted to Ward, but even if it only was the 10th like everyone knows Kovalev one, the fight would have gone the other way.
Which is exactly why the judges did not give him that round, the fight was fixed, the only disagreement is by how much it was fixed.
Ward did not win the fight.
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>>74509183
Fucking lol m8, garbage the both of them.
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>>74508551
>>74508551
guaranteed purses under haymon on pbc free (falling) TV
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>>74510308
Ward ducked Bute, first by saying that who ever wins between him and Froch has to fight Bute, who was the number one ranked guy in that division at the time.
But after winning Ward started bitching about who has Bute beaten? That he needs to fight and beat some guys first before he fights him.
Then once Bute signed another fight, he comes out with I am so dissapointed in Bute I was willing to fight him, why did he do that?
Ward is full of shit, a ducker, a cherry picker, a fight robber, a diva that stacks the deck against his opponent, a belt vacater, pulls out of fights he doesn't like, tries to get out of contracts he has signed because he doesn't like the opposition and so on.
You support the type of guy that ruins the sport and plays everyone for a chump.
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>>74509288
>Dude, he vacated his belt because at 168 because Anthony Dirrell was his mandatory, who was absolutely willing to fight him.
Never, ever, ever did this happen.

Andre Dirrell had the option to fight him during the super 6 tournament and he pulled out himself.

The WBC belt that Anthony Dirrell won was stripped of Andre Ward like a year prior and that was after him being champion emeritus for about a year too.

And to your point does anyone want to see Ward vs Dirrell? No, you're clutching at straws.
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>>74509288
>after which Degale talked shit about Ward for pulling out of negotiations, look it up on Youtube
Yeah man he ducked my boy Charlie Z too bro, look it up on youtubezz!!1
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>>74509317
I didn't watch the fight because I respect myself and the value of my time too much then to watch a has been and a never was get into it.

It's shit like that thats ruining boxing.
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>>74509437
Who said he's powerless. I think he can punch nice but he doesn't have that One Time bullshit that he talks loud in public about.
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>>74509575
>Andre Dirrell was part of the Super Six tournament and they could have fought.
But when they had the fight on the table Dirrell pulled out from the tournament so it's actually Dirrell that ducked Ward
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>>74510126
>so they made him take the fight against Kovalev to try to recoup their losses.
No, just no... the only reason Ward went to 175 was for Kovalev, fighting the C graders on his way to Krusher was just to get comfortable at the weight and knock the ring rust off from inactivity and injury and also to give more time to build the fight.

If Ward didn't want to fight Krusher then no one could make him and thats just a fact. Take the L and go to bed faggot
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>>74510126
>As for Dawson he was drained at 168 where the fight took place and if you knew anything about Dawson at 175, you knew that he had an iron chin, on top of that Ward is a light puncher, yet Ward was able to stop and easily hurt Dawson.
>Dawson was drained, so much so that anybody could have beaten Dawson that night, it ruined his career.
So then you also remember that it was Bad Chad that put 168 lbs on the table. He was the one that called out Ward and said that Ward was a pussy and he would take him at 168 no problems.

Then even at the weigh press conference Dawson still said it was no big deal to go to 168 and he made weight comfortable.

Get your facts bitch.
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>>74511226
>The WBC belt that Anthony Dirrell won was stripped of Andre Ward like a year prior and that was after him being champion emeritus for about a year too.
http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/4/12/2943180/andre-ward-says-he-wanted-to-fight-lucian-bute-butes-team-disagrees
Anthony Direll was has mandotroy for his WBC belt, it clearly states it there.
>And to your point does anyone want to see Ward vs Dirrell?
What the fuck does pussing out of your mandatory have to do with that? So it's okay to bitch out of a ranked mandatory because you have a bullshit excuse?
If he didn't fight him because no one wanted to see that fight, despite the fact that people did, then how in the fuck do you think that the fight he took instead against Edwin Rodriguez was a better choice?
No one wanted to see him fight that absolute nobody.
So the fact that the took a lesser vacated belt that was fragmented and therefore easier to attain against lesser competition instead of a good ranked opponent with a better title means nothing to you? That fact that he took the easy way out doesn't say anything about Ward that's maybe not so flattering?
The guy is a cherry picker, clearly, he's willing to vacate belts if he doesn't like a fight, he has a million excuses for not fighting guys and gets incredible credit for taking the easy way out and fighting bums.
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>>74511430
Source? Thought he got eliminated early on.

Obviously I'm defending Ward here, he might be the most accomplished super middle of all time.
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>>74511590
I never said Ward made him do it, don't go making shit up you idiot, what I'm saying is that it made him weak and easy to beat.
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>>74511618
Dirrell pulled out of the tournament and took time off after the disqualification of Abraham after hitting Dirrell when he was on the ground.
I think about a year and a half.
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>>74510610
>You support the type of guy that ruins the sport and plays everyone for a chump.
I never supported this nigger you're the only dick rider in here getting hysterical like a bitch because you caught feelings for a bitch boy who got BLACKED.

You gotta work out your own personal issues because your taking this way to hard mate.

Side note: Wards WBC was stripped of him not vacated and the WBA that he vacated in 2015 was vacated to go up to 175.
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>>74511755
It's not about Kovalev, it's about Ward being trash to the sport and the fact that people don't know it because no one tells the truth about him.
He keeps getting ranked in the p4p lists, even when fights nobodies. The guy is a manufactured hypejob and brings the worst aspects of the corrupted sport out to ensure he gets undue credit.
The guys is cancer to the sport.
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>>74511657
>I never said Ward made him do it, don't go making shit up you idiot,
Where have i implied that you said Ward made him do it.

I quoted you directly and rebutted with the fact that Chad wanted the fight at 168.

Are you schizophrenic friend?
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>>74511892
Then why are you bringing up the fact that Dawson offered it at 168, when that never was the point?
What point were you trying to make then?
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>>74511892
One more thing, are you going to acknowledge the score card and the 10th round? What do you make of that?
>>74510465
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>>74511596
>Using bad left hook as a source
So after winning the super 6 and and then defending his crown against lineal 175 champ Dawson in September 2012 the WBC stripped Ward for inactivity March 2013 for not fighting a mandatory despite the fact that there own rules dictated that you get 12 months to fight a mandatory (and lets not forget that in this time he had back surgery, shoulder surgery and a broken hand).

He was obviously going to be looking at Bute over Dirrell because Bute was ranked #2 and some thought he was #1. The thing you miss about him complaining about Bute fighting Froch was that he wasn't bitching about the fact that they were fighting he was mad that they signed a 2 fight deal. Meaning he wanted them to fight and if Bute won Ward could take him for a mega fight. That obviously didn't happen though.
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>>74511818
All the top guys have fought nobodies.

GGG, Kovalev, Garcia, Thurman, Pacquiao all these cunts are just as guilty as each other either accept it as part of the sport or hold them all to the standard you expect of this nigger and then just drop the sport. Either way deal in reality and stop being a bitch.
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>>74511929
I can't keep repeating myself I've already stated my point twice.

>>74511965
I scored the fight to Ward personally and I remember watching thinking the only rounds the Kovalev looked interested or like he had a gameplane or purpose was 2 and 10. I would that down to shit judging but overall I think they got it right.

My overall point is that if you think they got it wrong that's fine but I don't see how anyone watched that fight and didn't think it was close, then to say he dominated when he didn't and that he was robbed just makes you look like an emotional bitch with an agenda.
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>>74512092
I do hold them to the same standard, the problem is that other people don't hold Ward to the same standard.
This is the quality of opposition Ward had before the Kovalev fight, Rodriguez, Smith, Barrerra and Brand.
These are the type of opponent that Ward after Dawson that had that kept getting him in the pound for pound list, year after year.
Ward is clearly held to a lower standard for the amount of credit he gets. I am specifically pointing out Ward because he's the worst example of the bullshit in the sport, the favoritism that comes his way, along with Ward being a piece of shit full of shit.
For example people keep saying he cleaned out 168, that never happened, what ever reasons you think the fights didn't go through are irrelevant because the fact is he didn't but you see people repeating it all the time. He gets credit for things he didn't do and gets extra credit for doing the bare minimum.
Why do you think that is?
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