/nba/ - Based Chuck Edition

who THE FUCK can stop lebron from demanding the cavs give derrick rose a max contract this summer to play backup pg

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Is it me is there a lot of black men in the NBA? What's the deal with that?

Let's be real here.

The Cavs weren't built to repeat and the fact LeBron is bitching about it after he campaigned to get all his teammates max contracts is retarded.

Cavs can't possibly make moves 40 mill over the cap and with no assets.

This is just facts.

They won their championship, trade guys and hope for next year.

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>Yogi plays like shit when he is with "us" and now he's dropping 20 pts games in Dallas

JUST

>>73982123
The Wizards, when they give the Cavs John Wall, obviously

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Zubac GOAT Watch

Tonight: 17 points on 89% shooting, 6 rebs in 21 minutes off the bench

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I'm sowee lebawn jameis youah da best puhlease fohgive me

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Rapties will win tomorrow vs celties

>>73982147
>thinking Chuck will back down
he knows he's right

>>73982143
Let him start he's already better then ingram

>>73982143
Already a top 10 C

whose idea was it to give shumpert a 10 million per year contract?

>>73982179
Same guy who gave JR Smith 14 million per year.

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First for Boston spanking that ass tomorrow night.

>>73982179
Same guy that gutted his bench, overpaid TT, and made a who would have, and should have, been retired player not retire.

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The true heir established, the greatest son.

>>73982179
>>73982199
Uhh David Griffin?

>>73982207
Why is he so likable?

>>73982214
Because he doesn't talk so we don't really know him.

>>73982207
You do realize he said he never trained with Kobe and said it was all rumors right?

Kawhi is literally Duncan 2.0 and don't show emotions or anything.

So if Zaza and Steph can't play on Wednesday, how does this look for a starter lineup?
>KD
>Draymond
>McGee
>Klay
>Ian Clark
So are there other lineups that would be better? Imho I think this is actually their best lineup without a Curry.

>>73982220
Thank you based Hinkie

>tfw lebron is going to make gilbert sign rondo to a 3 year 60 million dollar deal this summer

>>73982220

thank you based hinkie

pls come visit once in a while

>>73982220
thank you based hinkie but okafor is a bust

>>73982220
thank you based hinkie

>>73982143
The kid within 2 years, if he puts on 20-25 lbs will be the next duncun/dirk. He's got huge fucking calves

>>73982259
>tfw Hinkie wanted KP

>>73982143
i thought Lakers were tanking, guess not when they UNLEASHED THE ZUBACCAAURUS REX BABY LOL. clips4lyfe rolling in his grave right now.

>>73982271
He can shoot the meme, but he's overall closer to Marc than either of those.

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>the cleveland cavaliers are the favorites to win the championship

>>73982294
they weren't last year either, and look what happened.

>>73982294

Nobody has ever said that in any year

>>73982307
Golden state lost?

>>73982226
So you're saying Kawaii is Tim's son?

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>>73982312
this guy is correcto

>>73982307
>look what happened.

draymond green was suspended for a game and steph curry was coming off a knee injury and lebron played the game of his life?

>>73982220
thank you based hinkie

>>73982331
Excuses, excuses.

Excuses.

Get that dick out your mouth and face reality.

>>73982321
More like a clone of him

>>73982331
>draymond green was suspended for a game and steph curry was coming off a knee injury

how is this lebrons fault? there is no mercy or sympathy in the NBA, a L is an L. Everyone thinks the warriors will win it again, I still think lebron will in it again, he's a great player, golden state has no legit great players, but okay okay, ill be fair curry does amazing shit but i still think lebron is greater.

>>73982337
he's a wing, Timmy was a big

>>73982099
has anyone played barkley shut up and jam gaiden whatever?

I have it but haven't played it yet

Any of you wanna move in together? You all seem like cool dudes

Kawhi is the MVP

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>>73982342
>Everyone thinks the warriors will win it again, I still think lebron will in it again
both wrong

>>73982132
YOUR FRANCHISE IS LITERALLY JUST
SADDEST TIMELINE (FOR YOU)

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So what can the Cavs do with Kevin Love right, now? The guy needs a break more than the All-star game. His back is going down hill so fast, he's going to need a walker by the end of the season. The Cavs can't keep up the pace the way they are doing it. So what do they do?

>>73982364
His stat line is unimpressive compared to Harden and Westbrook. Let alone KD and LeBron.

>>73982361
one of my roommates is moving out in april, if anyone here wants to rent a room in sf for only 1,500 a month let me know

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>>73982389
yo what's up clips, wanna talk clipper basketball?

>>73982389
i'm sure your mother and her boyfriend will be back together soon clips. hold off on the listing for a bit.

>>73982364
Kawhi doesn't need anymore undeserved awards, he already stole DPTOY from DJ a few years ago...

>>73982366
meme basketball is too strong for beautiful basketball. I'd rather see kawhii lose than get a roundhouse kick to the chops from draymond.

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>t-the warriors are g-gonna w-win the ship!1!!

lmao

>>73982389
>sf
are you near moma?

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Guys, is Dion Waiters the second coming of Wade???

>>73982400
clips, i want to know your thoughts on DJ going to the all-star game when /nba/ says he doesn't deserve it.

>>73982389
Hop on 2k real quick before I go to bed

>>73982389
>clips is from sf
yo lets hang out man

>>73982411
im starting to think he is wade.

>>73982400
i sent you an invite clips, i let you have home court. dont cheese me and spam 3s this game will yah.

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>>73982411
Yes

A true philly nigga.

>>73982425
>quoting kobe
truly his son

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>>73982425
>philly cheese swag

This guy is literally a caricature of Philly niggas.

>>73982410
not really I live in hayes valley

>>73982412
I would say name 15 centers more deserving than DJ...

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does anybody else feel some type of way when seeing tender love scenes in movies?

>philly cheese swag

lol

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>Goran Dragic and Dion Waiters now want to be called 7-Eleven. "We're always open," Dion said. (Think about it.)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>mfw LeBron passed up on this playmaker

>>73982389
Oh cool I live near by, I don't make much can we make other arrangements?

>>73982437
>I would say name 15 centers more deserving than DJ...
that's exactly what i said, and they go on to name 10 meme centers, like m.gasol or meme-side. Give me DJ before any of those bums.

>>73982438

Not really but they usually make my wife frisky and we usually start fucking. I can't even remember all of the movies we haven't finished

>living with clips

now there is literally no excuse not to hop on 2k

>>73982388
>muh stats

>>73982438
Yeah I feel lonely

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>>73982460
Are you mentally ill?

What team needs a Larry Sanders?

Cleveland
Maybe the kings if they trade boogie
Meme-state?
Raptors?

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>>73982388
>His stat line is unimpressive compared to Harden and Westbrook. Let alone KD and LeBron.

>>73982472
OKC since Kanter is out.

Trade Joffery to make cap space.

>>73982472
golden state leads he league in a lot of defensive categories around the rim, they dont need sanders

>>73982480
They're actually bad around the rim and lead the league in every defensive stat away from that.

i want to see utah in the playoffs, top defensive team in the NBA right now, better than the spuds?

>>73982472
is he actually coming back? at this piont he hasn't played in a few years and I doubt he will be an instant help to any playoff team this year...

that last thread was fucking pathetic

canadians are the worst posters on 4chan

faggots

>>73982503
>>73982503
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/larry-sanders-renewing-effort-to-return-to-nba-000938891.html

>Sanders has hired agent Joel Bell and has started meeting with NBA teams, including, league sources said, a visit with the Boston Celtics last week. He has three additional team visits scheduled, league sources said. For NBA teams searching for frontcourt depth and rim protection, Sanders could become an option.

>>73982472
Boston needs a guy like that, but he might be too much of a headcase.

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>>73982489

>>73982508
>Talk shit all last thread
>Start crying at a little banter

Lmao can't wait to see you crying when Raptors blow out the Saltics

>>73982530
>Jazz have the best interior D

TYB Rudy

i fucking hate Boston

>>73982530
Umm..... Thanks for proving me right?

>>73982472
Bucks could use him.

>>73982469
Actually I am but that doesn't change the fact that Kawhi does more on both ends than the players you mentioned and should win the MVP

>>73982517
interesting, but still being out of basketball for that long(is it like 2 plus years now?) plus he was a fucking mess when he left you either have a serious drug problem or are stupid as fuck to fail a drug test in the nba...

>>73982546
If being 10th is bad around the rim then it must really suck to be teams 11-30.

Da land is 23rd

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>>73982537
i'm not a boston fan

you're a faggot

any objective person can see the celtics have a brighter future than the craptors

enjoy losing tomorrow

>>73982556
Tomorrow is Thursday lmao

>>73982555
Allowing 58% is bad by any stretch of the imagination.

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>>73982556
>the celtics have a brighter future than the craptors

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>>73982559
not where i am 'lmao'

fucking bitch ass nigger

>>73982565
Yeah the Sixers need a better rim protector than Embiid

>>73982555
>then it must really suck to be teams 11-30.

It really does suck. Look at the win record disparetly between the top teams to the rest.

It's literally just the Warriors, Spurs, Rockets, Cavs right now and everyone else is bad. And when you look at it the majority of top half teams are all in the West and half those guys aren't even making it past the first round.

The NBA is more top heavy now than it has been since the Lakers Celtics era.

>>73982575
>Worst Coast
Either way the Raptors are still gonna slap the Celtics lol

>>73982576
Rim protection isn't determined by one player on the floor and Embiid is on minute restrictions, also look at who his replacements are.

>>73982588
>Worst Coast

i hope you're talking about the east coast. /nba/ is a best coast general.

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What if we all pitch in to rent that room with food4lyfe?
Everyday a new anon/trip could show up and play him @ 2k

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>i hope you're talking about the east coast. /nba/ is a best coast general.

>>73982589
lol his backups are fine. Many teams would kill to have Embiid and Noel.

GSW doesn't fucking need more rim protection.

Spurs and GSW = 58%
Toronto and Boston = 59%
Cleveland = 60%
Cloppers = 62%
Rockets = 64%

>>73982600
>>73982593
east coast, west coast it's all based a fuck best teams, best places to live etc..., the worst is the middle america aka trumpmerica...

>>73982616
For much of the season Okafor was the main backup.

what's the status on the Raps v Celtics game. I need a run down. injuries, starters i want it all

>living in the coasts

Lmao enjoy your hurricanes and earthquakes fucking faggots. Texas is the holy land of America

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>>73982630
>living in texas

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>>73982630
>Texas

>>73982638
None of the major cities in based Texas get tornadoes pussy.

>>73982616
>GSW doesn't fucking need more rim protection

They don't have a single one.

They changed their defensive scheme from last year with Bogut using a funnel system to force guards into take contested shots with Bogut protecting the rim to now forcing guards on the perimeter to passing the ball side to side and using their length to disrupt the passing lanes and cause deflection and turnovers while also forcing them to take contested threes and mid range shots instead of going inside or getting open threes.

There's an article about this I can show you, just give me a minute.

The style of defense they play now it harder to do and requires almost perfect communication and teamwork while also being more exhausting physically on the team as a whole.

>>73982638
>>73982643
Fuck off cucks

>>73982616
Are spurs and gsw seriously tied #1 in rim protection? That's pretty sad because as a spurs fan I can assure you we have bad rim protection

craptors fans are already lining up the excuses for their upcoming loss in Boston, LMAO

>>73982625
Bradley is a gametime decision. DeFrozen is out.

>>73982657
Compared to last year the league as a whole is having a bad year with rim protection.

>>73982657
No, Utah is #1

Spurs and GSW are tied among those top teams though.

>>73982653
Yeah man season is over, they're awful at protecting to him. They won't get past Denver in the first round because Nurkic and Jokic is gonna feast inside all day. They're going to lose to da land too because they need to be worried about Lebron going inside instead of the plethora of catch and shoot players that team has.

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LeBron is mad at the Warriors and Durant for doing exactly what he did? The difference is the Warriors built their team through the draft and added Durant out of luxury not need. As a spurs fan I hate the Warriors but I have a ton of respect for what they've built and how they did it. LeBron isn't really coming off as angry, he's coming off as whiny. He publicly called for guys to get paid and now he has to deal with the unintended consequences of the payroll he helped fill

people from TEXASS swear that texas is the best state. 3 NBA teams and they;re all shit. California has 4 and 3 of them are always in the conversation for the title.

>>73982679
bruh i agree buy this dude is a fraud, and so is ESPN for continuing to allow this self proclaimed "King" to scurry away from the facts. If you are the best, you can't have all the great players, within that time period, play with you. Bosh, Wade and James, within that time period weren't comparable to any free agent era made teams. Allen and Garnett where at the end of their careers in respect to Bosh and Wade. The Warriors added one free agent (Durrant) and the Cavs added two James and Love. These are facts.
If James and his circle weren't busy branding him and his image maybe he would have had time to respect those who had to earn the title of GOAT.
PS work on his midrange game and stop bullying his way to the basket and the real basketball minds would gain some respect for his argument for all time greatest.

>>73982680
GSW

and who else?

Chris Paul is cursed
>Lakers and Sac

>>73982686
Lakers, Clippers and Meme-state

litterally the only good thing about texas is austin

>>73982680
>Dallas, Houston, and Spurs are all have titles
>Sacramento's last title was from the early 50s

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>>73982684
The disrespect has given to the Spurs in this thread is ridiculous. The Heat were 30 seconds away from losing the title to the Spurs in 2013. And got obliterated by then the next year because they were by far the worse team. The Spurs had them figured out that year, were by faaaar the better team, and were angry for gifting them the title the year before. It was a revenge series for them.
Lebron realizes that he is on course for another bad finals loss. But this is his bed that he made and he has to sleep in it.

>>73982694
>Sacramento's only title was in New York and not California

topkek

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>>73982691
i c what you did there clops

LeBron struggling is kind of weird to watch. He must be cracking under pressure of some sort.

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>>73982684
Lebron created all of these problems he complained about. Who pressured the Cavs into resigning JR Smith and Tristan Thompson to inflated contracts. Neither of those players are as talented as their salary would indicate. Durant is the only player on the Warriors who is being paid "Market Value" whereas the Cavs overpaid for their entire roster. Irving and Love aren't big enough stars to justify 'Max Contracts', and Thompson and Smith are two of the most overpaid in the NBA. These are some of the reasons the Cavs cant assemble a roster that compares to the Warriors. It is why Lebron needs to stop over exerting himself in every situation because Griffin is pressured into making poor deals.

>>73982702
Jordan retired 2 years to play baseball

lebron should go fuck off to the NFL or something

>>73982705
The unintended consequence of stepping over Draymond Green to incite a flagrant and swing the momentum of the series, will be, Lebron winning the last title of his career in 2016. Thank you Lebron, for bringing Kevin Durant, my favorite non-Warrior player in the NBA, to the Warriors. Thank you thank you thank you..

>>73982707
>NFL
And get CTE? He's already senile.

Maybe he should play for Ohio State.

>>73982679

All I got from this, is the old guy (LeBron yr 14) upset the younger guys (Warriors) are the biggest draw in the league, and he's upset about it. They are the show everyone wants to see, that have the last 3 MVP's. Honestly what's happening is, the league is transcending again, and LeBrons style of play just isn't that exciting anymore in today's game. This has always happened as the league is constantly evolving. Like the Warriors or not, they are must see TV to root for or against. But they are exciting. LeBron is one of the greatest, but that bully ball, sometimes out of control, shooting layups just doesn't appeal to the masses like it once did. The Warriors style of play, sharing the ball, shooting the 3, back cuts, unlimited range, is everything the league is becoming today. For better or for worse, but it's changed. He is still willing his team to the Finals, even pulled one out last year. But let's face it, we are in the Warriors era now. LeBron can still mustard up some magic here and there and squeak one out like the finals, or Christmas Day. But we recognise the Warriors are loaded with another gear, that even he can't touch.

>Larry spamming LeBron pasta again

>>73982705
The only bad contracts the team has is Frye and Shumpert. The problem is Lebron's salary is 30M.

>>73982718
>All I got from this, is the old guy (LeBron yr 14) upset the younger guys (Warriors) are the biggest draw in the league, and he's upset about it
As he should, he upset them and made a historical comeback against a historical team.

>>73982718
I get why he is frustrated but I don't like how he is expressing it. Calling out everyone publicly after every loss has gotten old and he is coming across as a whiny diva and he really didn't like it when Barkley called him out for it and his response to Barkley made him look worse, saying "how dare you insult my legacy..." or however he put it. He came off like an arrogant, detached crybaby.
He is starting to turn into what people in Cleveland called him before he came back: LeQuit Blames

>>73982722
>trying to imitate discord lebron pasta
not the same thing. the taste is different.

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>>73982729
LeBron is responsible for the Warriors for his "I'm Taking my talents to South Beach" and forcing Bosh to come along. Then, he saw a new opportunity with fresher, younger players he decided to take his talents back to Cleveland. He is the one solely reponsible for mega teams

>>73982718
>LeBrons style of play just isn't that exciting anymore in today's game
>good footwork, ferocious fastbreak dunks, chasedown blocks, alleyoops, bullying, and smothering defense isn't exciting anymore in today's NBA
It's awfully sad to think people actually believe this

>>73982735
he will never overtake MJ. By the time Jordan played 11 full seasons he had 6 rings. LeBron has played 13 full seasons and has 3.

Jordan prime vs. LeBron prime would have Jordan taking LeBron 100% of the time in a 7 game series. don't fucking @ me

>>73982740
All those haters who attack KD as being a coward for going to the Warriors are missing several salient points. Playinjg with Russ and his selfish style of dominating the ball was painful and frustrating for KD. He wanteed to enjoy playing ball the right way and the Warriors style of sharing the ball is beautiful and rewarding. They make playing fun and productive. KD also has many friends on the Warriors that he enjoys playing with. The Bay area is one of the most beautiful area/city in our country and the weather is fabulous. It's the world leader in technology and his chance to build an income away from basketball is greater there than in OKC. Everybody gets to choose where they live and work and to attack KD for merely exercising his rights to do so is hypocritical and shortsighted.

>>73982596
Stream it

>>73982726
Would make no difference buddy. They'd have just as much money to spend.

>>73982751
Westbrook passing to KD literally lead the league in assists and they were up 3-1 against the Warriors but KD playing isoball in the last minutes and missing constantly and selfishly demanding the ball constantly literally ruined their Finals hopes.

I know this is pasta but please don't let ignorant shit like this get parroted.

>>73982735

How can he complain? He won the two legitimate titles of his three as part of a fabricated super-team, and was handed the third while again part of a Franken-team assembled with no thought to cost. He had every conceivable advantage last year, and will again this year. He should use the time he spends rying to the press about how unfair life treats him to instead spend some time in the gym practicing. Although-- all the 'roids and HGH he's popped might make it impossible for him to control his emotions, so......

Is Larry getting this pasta from reddit?

This sounds like reddit tier shit.

embiid is overrated

Zubac > meme-bead

>>73982760
If Lebron doesn't like the road he has to travel then he should not have helped to pave it. It all started with the Celtics big 3 but then Lebron followed suit with his own big 3 in Miami. Then he did it again in Cleveland and when that didn't work he added more guys the next year so they could win. How you going to get mad at the Warriors for adding one guy they did not draft? Just more whining.

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>>73982764
Either reddit or he's been going though the archives and reposting comments made previously.

Also

Can we talk about the Knicks?

>>73982718
I can respect that he's really good and an athletic monster but he really abuses using his off hand to clear guys 70# lighter than him out the lane and never gets called for offensive fouls. And on the he other side of that he flops, not an insane amount, but enough that he should have been fined by now - to my knowledge he has never been fined for flopping. Sell the foul, sure, all the greats did it, but don't ask me to believe a 210# guy jogged into LeBrons shoulder and sent him staggering 15 feet down the court.

I don't mind the aggressive rim slashing style, I still like watching Westbrook but LeBron just gets away with so much shit that it's hard to watch. In contrast, the Warriors and Spurs have such dynamic off ball plays, avoid too much iso and have all those sexy back cut passes.

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>>73982769
>tfw work and didn't get to bantz with the lakeys crew

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/nba/- dissertations and essays

>>73982746
Man I so disagree here. Jordan wouldn't have won in 2007 with that squad. Jordan wouldn't have won in 2014 with injured d wade. Jordan wouldn't have gone 6 games imo against warriors w no Kyrie or k love. Jordan wouldn't have beaten the 73 win warriors, he never had a series like LeBron did the last 2 finals (arguably two greatest finals performances ever). He would have won in 2011 because he was a model of consistency but on individual talent it's extremely close. I think Jordan with Brons teams against Brons opponents has 3 rings. Jordan played against garbage in the 90s compared to LeBron playing a dynastic Spurs team 3 times, and one of the greatest teams ever in the Warriors twice. The 2007, 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016 finals were more than anything Jordan faced in the finals.

Don't get me wrong, Jordan is the greatest ever and he has a lot to prove it but he's also a beneficiary of circumstances.

>>73982770
>How you going to get mad at the Warriors for adding one guy they did not draft?
Because the Warriors should have some integrity and left him alone. They should have just let KD go, it's embarrassing that a team of their caliber went after KD. There should be a rule that superstars in free agency can only go to mid tier teams so that it keeps the NBA fresh. The Warriors are a disgraceful organization for going after him.

>>73982770
Fuck off currybitch!
People love to exagerate a point to shame Lebron. Dude certainly acts bratty and spoiled, but the rest of us are judging from a position to never fathom fightinYg for a sports legacy as great as the one he can acheive. Yes he lobbied for them to re-sign J.R. and Tristian for obvious reasons. They are the only other two consistent defenders on the roster. The Cavs are full of one-way players starting with Kyrie and Love. Lebron simply is saying let's not stay the course. If we're truly playing for chips, last year's success don't guarantee this year's. You can critique the delivery, but the message is both fair and clear.

>>73982778
>Can we talk about the Knicks?
lets.

Melo to the Clippers, build around the bust. Get rid of Rose asap.

>>73982760
This is bait. Cavs were incredibly disadvantaged against the Warriors last year.

>>73982770
He didn't pave his own road for 7 years and his GM and owner gave him nothing. He paves it and he wins 3 titles in 5 years. Foh.

>>73982779
>but don't ask me to believe a 210# guy jogged into LeBrons shoulder and sent him staggering 15 feet down the court.
It's called momentum nigga. Dray is 210 pounds but when he's going at a faster speed than lebron then there's going to be a bigger impact, and it was shown in his fencing response.

>>73982759

First off Javale McGee you the real MVP lol

OK now that I got that out of the way lol I feel LeBron is not only upset, he's frustrated. The best player in the world had to leave Cleveland for Miami to not only learn how to win a chip but to learn the ways of one of the most legendary puppet masters of all time in Pat Riley how to construct a championship caliber roster and stay a championship caliber roster.

But LeBron you can't just throw money at players and max them out just because he is "your guy". I believe Tristan and Draymond both signed $80 mil max contracts but who would you rather have? You could of kept a budding young star in Wiggins who could do all the little things (rebound, defend, hustle plays) at a reasonable price but instead you chose to trade for Love who you also maxed out! That's money you could have spent somewhere else maybe? Depth? Another creator? You bring in all your guys LeBron and expect them to get paid and to also win. Is this a championship caliber team? Yes just not this year.

>>73982798
>This is bait.
it's larry, stop falling for it you fucking moose.

>>73982794
How do people still insult LeBron after what he did the last 2 years? It's probably the same people who say Kobe is better than him cause muh 5 rings.

>>73982803
>>73982808

I mean look at the latest set of model franchises in the West in the Spurs, GSW, and until this year OKC. Those teams build through the draft and develop players into studs consistently. LeBron has to coach his team to be more than just catch and shoot players it's that simple. The Cavs gameplan is strictly give KyBron the ball, let them create for themselves or for others 95% of the time and we should be good.

LeBron is frustrated and his insecurity is showing. He knows deep down he made a few roster mistakes but dude unless you have some sort of agreement with Gilbert about splitting the luxury tax that he is so graciously paying for you, SHUT UP

Can someone report this guy for spamming reddit comments?

Pretty sure this is against the rules.

>>73982810
Finally someone who gets it. GS has always been the deeper and more talented team. Lebron's greatness was able to neutralize them to a certain degree. But, if you consider the fact that GS was a championship team without Durant who is their best player and the CAVS are like 4-18 when Lebron doesn't play and wouldn't even make it to the Finals without Lebron, gives you a sense that Lebron is not playing with nearly the level of talent as GS

Maybe just maybe LeBron has finally gassed out after being the floor general for 15 years

>>73982803
>Is this a championship caliber team? Yes just not this year.
all this bait, yet there are no fish.

>>73982810
>It's probably the same people who say Kobe is better than him cause muh 5 rings.
kobe is better faggot.

>>73982822
have never, ever heard an active player, EVER, speak in defense of his own legacy. this little boy is the end of the NBA, and thank god..... nba can run out all the propaganda they want, but fans are burning out on this game of " street basketball, and lawlesness. "he won't get that call in the last two minute???" players scheming together on twitter to build their own "super team" and sad sack fans who buy their favorite player's jersey, and in two months its the wrong team jersey.

>>73982821
>>73982810
interdasting, its a larry and vpn 7kt jerking each other off episode.

>>73982822
Then he should retire and stop taking out his frustration on people that paved the way for him to be who he is today

>>73982812
Gilbert is not being gracious. LeBron has doubled the value of the Cleveland Cavaliers and makes Gilbert more money than he could ever pay in luxury tax. When LeBron came to Cleveland, Gilbert promised him he'd spend every dollar possible. So far he has done that, but apparently he's iffy about it now. You don't go back on promises like that, I think it's convenient he's doing it after LeBron signs a 2 year deal. Gilbert should be happy to pay any amount of money since LeBron's mere presence is injecting money into Gilberts bank account.

>>73982835
>implying
he deserves to finally vent out at all the deadweight he had to carry for years for no results

>>73982830
>>73982794
>>73982779

this
Just a sad shame that its "all about me!" and punkin head james has that down better than anyone, since the league created him, in spite of his average ball handling skills, and medicocre defense.
his skillset is poor, but as long a the dunk is allowed, he will still look good. after all, boy 6ft 8" pushing a ball thoug a hoop ten feet high is sooo kewl........ how many of us at 6 ft could dunk? probably a lot. i know i could. not a big deal

>>73982837
He's pissed? Sounds more like whining. The Dubs were were very fortunate that they had the cap space to sign KD. It took both Barnes and Ezeli to reject their qualifying offers and being able to offload Bogut's contract, plus the jump in cap for that to happen. It was a very lucky thing that no one could have predicted.

That said, the Dubs have better scouting, better cap management and get better player and/or get the max out of all the players they sign. Just look at Patrick McGaw on the Dubs and compare him to Kay Felder, both second round draft picks. McGaw getting minutes on a loaded team and contributing and looks like a keeper. Felder? He looks like bambi lost in headlights. Dub's front office is literally light years ahead of Cavs.

>>73982830
Well that's a lie. Jordan was talking about his legacy after his first 3 peat. Maybe it's because you never watched basketball until this year.

>>73982837
Cavs needed someone like David West (or Zaza) but if you were a good vet looking to get a ring and willing to sign the minimum, which team would you choose? Dubs or Cavs? Its Dubs by a country mile. When you play for the Cavs you are dealing with James and his mood swings and arrogance on top of having to live in Clevaland. When you play for the Dubs, you play in a wide open, unselfish system with a bunch of all stars that are fun to be around with AND you get to live in the west coast.

Steph is the master of the house in Oaktown, but do you ever hear him publically diss his teammates like Leebron did? No. There is a reason players want to play for the Dubs

>>73982855
Did Jordan ever whine about he's not winning because of league rules or lack of players arounder him? Did Magic? Bird? Never. Today's prima donna's blame on everyone and everything else. Oh I don't have support players, oh coaches don't call my plays, oh this and that. Cmon man. FUCK YOU TROLLING?

>>73982871
>Did Jordan ever whine about he's not winning because of league rules or lack of players arounder him?

Yes

>>73982871
.Detroit was putting players in the hospital and preventing drives to the basket because they would undercut, elbow, hack and even punch players driving to the bucket...the NBA is better for it...not so much the current state of the league with whiny players giving up on their own teams, and hating on teams that did things right, i.e. Golden State and San Antonio drafting smart and adding what they need

>>73982849
Dubs were fortunate that Stephen Curry fell in the draft and Draymond as a 2nd round pick panned out. They are extremely lucky that these players can all be on the same team at the same time, half of them are making garbage money.

In terms of the FO though, yeah, it's always been shit. Well before LeBron was there it was shit so I don't know why they blame him. These guys drafted Anthony fucking Bennet first overall.

>>73982878
The Bulls actually did whine about the way the Pistons played defense which is why the league put in the flagrant foul rule the summer after they repeated.

>>73982855
Imagine a guy who plays in the East whining so much. Reminds me of Brady's Pats. Play a poor schedule against their division then 1 or 2 hard ones before the superbowl. Let leBron play in the West and get his clock cleaned every third night.

LeBron is not the first superstar to openly complain, even Kobe did it and coincidentally he wanted to go to Cleveland.

>>73982800
Draymond was an intentional foul.

finals Game 4 vs Mavericks
Eastern Conference finals vs raptors

Hell I remember a crazy one vs JR Smith of all people, where apparently JR without planting his feet is able to completely reverse the momentum of an accelerating LeBron with nothing but his bicep.

>>73982871
Yeah he did. He was the biggest ref babby in league history. And wanna talk about complaining about your teammates, Jordan punched one of his in the face.

>>73982893
Lebron led teams have an almost 70% winning percentage against the west dating back to this days in Miami. Secondly, I hope you realize the the east plays 38% of their games against the west. So, this idea that he's just dominating the east is nonsense. Finally, Lebron averaged 29.7 / 11.3 / 8.9 against the BEST TEAM in the west in the Finals last year. fuck off larrold

>>73982901
HE DESERVED IT, LOOK IT HOW KERR TURNED OUT TODAY! A FAGGOT COACH OF A FAGGOTTEAM, JORDAN KNEW THIS GUY WAS A PUSSY, SO HE PUNCHED HIM.

LEBRON KOBE JORDAN ALL GOATS.

>>73982901
Wasn't it LeBron, Chris Paul etc. who were pushing for (and ultimately responsible for) this new CBA? From that standpoint, is LeBron suffering the "unintended consequences" of his own doing?

>>73982893
I bet you LeBron wished he played in the west. He'd have just as many rings with less finals losses. The fact that losing in 2015 with a historic performance will taint his legacy noticeably pisses him off.

>>73982893
Can you imagine if they would of kept Wiggins? Not that his is a better player than Love but if all you wanted was a stretch 4 in Love you could of gotten that much cheaper in larger quantities. Their cap situation would be much more flexible. I feel Wiggins would have been a better fit and when him and Kyrie would of entered their primes, 25 26 27, James could have played the 4 instead and just dominated from the post with his passing and footwork to get to the rim.

>>73982916
>The fact that losing in 2015 with a historic performance will taint his legacy noticeably pisses him off.
Which is dumb, because he followed up with an inconceivable performance and miraculous comeback the next season

>>73982914
Yeah, LeBron probably somewhat regrets it, but if he wins this year it will make his legacy so huge. LeBron and the NBPA rightfully hate the owners and they did it just to stick it to them.

this is spam, all the replies are the same length.

>>73982916
>losing in 2015 with a historic performance will taint his legacy
But nobody says that. Everyone actually acknowledges that he carried them to 6 games by himself, and almost took it to 7 at the end.

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>>73982916
>I bet you LeBron wished he played in the west
Lebron should go play in the Western conference. He's been in the East since he started with very little competition. Easier schedules, easier path to the finals every year. I give them respect for what he did in Miami by taking pay cuts, but you can't act like the criticisms aren't valid.

>>73982922
Yeah, he had the greatest 6 and 7 game stretches in NBA Finals history. But when people look back they will see 3-4. For some reason losing against a better team in the finals is worse than losing against a better team in the conference finals.

>>73982916
Career wise only 35% of Lebron's games have been against the Western conference, that means that 65% would be against the east. It doesnt' take away from the fact there are a lot of teams in the West that are weak, but even the weakest teams in the West tend to stack up higher then their counterparts in the East. The past several years the 9th, 10th, and even 11th place teams in the West had a higher win percentage than the 8th place eastern conference team.
Yes, of course Lebron is a fantastic player, he's got a great win percentage overall with any other legend in the game. However go back through the past several years and look at how many back-to-back games his teams had against teams over .500. Look at the playoff matchups he was against. CHA, DET, and TOR just last year, none of which have premiere names to contend.
This is my problem with the NBA, they try to build the league around one or two teams, one or two big names. Now that GS is doing well with Durant and Curry (two former MVPs) they're going to be the ones with all the press.

>>73982939
>But when people look back they will see 3-4
No, they will see 3-1.

The Warriors saved his ass from a tainted legacy.

>>73982943
Wait, why didn't Cleveland sign Durant??? Oh, because even after Durant's $20+ million, Golden State is still spending $27 million less than Cleveland. How could that happen??? Because LeBron thought that he was clever to ditch his friends in Miami, force Cleveland to trade Wiggins (on a team-friendly rookie contract) for Love because he wanted to "win now", create another Big 3 superstars (all making sick money), and go $50 million over the cap (thanks to Gilbert's generosity), outspending everyone else in sight.

>>73982933
Right now. Not 20 years from now.

>>73982935
Sure, there's valid criticisms for every star player. But LeBron is top 5, top 3 in my book all time and will probably retire #2 and I have no reason to think if he had Jordan's squad for those years in Chicago against babby teams for a decade, that he couldn't also have 6 rings. He's done things Jordan didn't and vice versa

>>73982939
he demanded that they give his buddy Tristan Thompson an above-market-value contract that no one else was offering or he wouldn't re-sign. The next offseason that left zero cap room to sign Durant or anyone else. Then LeBron recommended that they re-sign J.R Smith, and Cleveland also overpaid Shumpert, leaving no cap room until about the year 2050.

Bottom line- if you keep playing GM, and demanding that you want a Big 3 AND expensive role players, AND a deep bench AND you employ a win-now attitude, it WILL catch up to you- even if the NBA were to raise the salary cap by $50 million, and even if you play for the most generous owner in the NBA. On the bright side, I think they have enough money to sign league-minimum street free agents for the next five years.

>>73982949
No it happened because Golden State has a bunch of young players that are on old contracts. 3 years from now when they are all getting max dollars they will be gutted.

>>73982949
Ok? What does front office moves have to do with his legacy and impact ON THE COURT?
>>73982950
see >>73982943

3-1 will be more remarkable than 3-4, and I doubt it will still be 3-4 when it's all said and done

>>73982952
It seems like LeBron is shocked that this wasn't a smart long-term strategy, though. Pretty sure that LeBron is very aware of the salary cap, and the massive financial penalties for going over it. He is definitely signing year-to-year contracts to maximize every dollar that he makes. LeBron or his business partners didn't account for another great NBA star to utilize his "jump on the bandwagon" strategy.

>>73982952
Gilbert isn't generous. LeBron makes him more money than he spends on those players. Gilbert is arguably one of the biggest slime balls in the NBA even and didn't want the salary cap to go up relative to the TV deals even though he'd be making enormous amounts of money from them.

>>73982952
>I think they have enough money to sign league-minimum street free agents for the next five years.
Why don't teams just sign nobodies and have them dive at the opponents?

>>73982957
Did any player whine about LeBron joining the Heat when they took a salary cut in order to play together? Does that seem legit? But looking at legacies, MJ never tanked an NBA finals like LeBron and never lost in the finals either. MJ never took an elbow injury and exaggerated it during the playoffs. LeBron is an all time great but he is chasing a true ghost because MJ is not going to be caught by him or anybody else currently in this league. Even if Kobe caught MJ with total titles won, he wouldn't have the better legacy. Kobe was an insane scorer, LeBron a physical specimen, but MJ the best ever. Also, LeBron had a nice losing series to the Warriors 2 years ago, but shot 39%. Hardly anything worth bragging about no matter the circumstances. So no excuses, just play.

>>73982960
Well the sick part is the OKC Thunder were up 3-1 on the Warriors. IMO they proved they can beat the Warriors. There was no reason for Durant to go to Golden State other than to take the easy path. It's pathetic.

>>73982961
He's not shocked. If you didn't notice, everything he's done has worked so far. They'd have the same players regardless anyway. Reminder they are over the cap. If LeBron took the vet minimum they'd still be in the same spot. They signed everyone with Bird rights.

>>73982968
Actually, the cap spike from the new TV money was because of the Players Association - that LeBron and his boys basically run. The league wanted cap smoothing where the cap would slowly increase over a number of years. This would have made it impossible for GS to sign Durant. The players association refused and wanted the spike in one big increase. Got LeBron and comapny paid more. Also allowed GS to sign Durant. hahaha paper yeah

>>73982983
what is the argument between you two, i don't feel like reading a 5 box set of novels.

>>73982973
Ferrell was signed from the D League cause the Mavs stink, not cause they are contending. Lebron James problem is that Lebron James doesn't trust certain teammates. It existed in Miami as well. The Mike Miller he complained the Heat didn't re-sign played 139 games in three years with Miami cause he was always hurt. He made an impact in one game in three years with Miami, Game 5 of the Finals against OKC. Other than that he was a spot up shooter who couldn't defend and could barely move and wasn't going to cost the Heat 17 million dollars. James Jones, the guy Lebron got to join him in Cleveland has done absolutely nothing in his three years in Cleveland. He barely plays yet this is who Lebron wanted. Why doesn't JJ play if Lebron loves him so? Lebron wants what no team in the NBA truly has and that is a 10 deep roster. And that includes Golden State. Watch how many guys really play once the Finals begin. GS won't go more than 9 deep in a competitive game. KD, Curry and Green will all be playing 38-40 minutes a game. How about honing your young guys and get them minutes? The East is cake for the Cavs. The time is now. And now he is working out Mario Chalmers a guy he treated like crap in Miami. Too funny.

>>73982983
Yeah, it's so sad that only GSW got the benefit of those extra salary cap dollars. It's almost as if the Cavs had only $10 to spend in the offseason. I bet they couldn't even recruit Durant if they wanted to, seeing how the coffers are so bare.

>>73982976
Yeah countless players and GMs whined about it. MJ couldn't tank a finals because his teams were stacked and they were unloseable. He did have horrible Finals games though.

I agree that Michael probably would have won in 2011. But he wouldn't have won in 2016.

And 39% is all you have? He averaged 36/13/9 and won 2 games with Delly as his 2nd best player against a 67 win warriors squad with the league mvp. Of course he's going to shoot 39%, he was the only guy who could make a shot. He played 46 minutes a game which also contributes to bad shooting. There was literally nothing more he could do.

>>73983008
Today's NBA is not as good as in the 80's and 90's. Those Bulls, Pistons, Celtics, Lakers, 76ers, would all crush any teams of today or recent past. The Spurs are the only recent teams that resemble those old schoolers.

>>73982985
No, I'm saying Gilbert didn't want the cap to go up, he was whining about "small market teams".

>>73983005
Again, GS has a team of young players on old contracts. If they were payed what they were worth it would be impossible. There's nuances to all of this. Again, even if LeBron took the vet minimum they'd be over the cap. It's just the realities of how some teams contracts end up. When you have a lot of guys on old contracts you can stack your roster.

>>73982983

I don't think Durant is necessarily wrong for going to gs since its his life/career and he is desperate to get a ring at this point in his career but you can't expect LeBron to be ok with the team he has when it took everything for them to be beat gs before and now they are sitting there with an open roster spot and on going injuries to two of their starters. The Cavs do need to add someone and they need depth in both the front court and back court. I'd rather see the Cavs add a couple players than see the Warriors steamroll to a title with little to no resistance.

>>73983032
what is the argument between you two, i don't feel like reading a 5 box set of novels..

>>73983023
Bullshit. 90s NBA was one of the weakest eras ever. 80s I agree with you but not 90s. That's why Michael never won in the 80s.

The Warriors and the Spurs are better than any team Michael ever beat in the playoffs.

>>73982994
>lebron giving his friends money
what a true homie

>>73983043
not going to answer?

>>73982472
Nobody wants that marijuana smoking degenerate

>>73983032
He knows deep down he made a few roster mistakes but dude unless you have some sort of agreement with Gilbert about splitting the luxury tax that he is so graciously paying for you


>>73983008

MJ never tanked an NBA finals like LeBron and never lost in the finals either. MJ never took an elbow injury and exaggerated it during the playoffs. LeBron is an all time great but he is chasing a true ghost because MJ is not going to be caught by him or anybody else currently in this league. Even if Kobe caught MJ with total titles won, he wouldn't have the better legacy. Kobe was an insane scorer, LeBron a physical specimen, but MJ the best ever. Also, LeBron had a nice losing series to the Warriors 2 years ago, but shot 39%. Hardly anything worth bragging about no matter the circumstances. So no excuses, just play.

>>73983055
What?
>>73983049
Probs not

>>73983055
>MJ never tanked an NBA finals like LeBron and never lost in the finals either.
MJ never came back from a 3-1 lead though

>>73983064
Warriors will breeze through this team in 5 or 6 come June. Unless something catastrophic happens the NBA and their fans should get use to this for the next 5-7 years.

P.S. No disrespect to the Spurs who are frankly the only team who can stop them as long as they have Pop for a coach.

>>73983064
bruh Lebron doesn't need to worry about chasing ghosts. No matter what he does on the court, he will always be remembered as a guy who played with the body of an athlete but the mind of an agent. It's a shame, but one he's chosen to create.

>>73983064
k

>>73983066
you started this! you don't join the 73 win team you had down 3-1 in the WCF but choked. You buckle up strap em up and go back to work the next season to beat them. If you have to join another team to do it so be it but don't join that team it's that simple. Did Lebron join the Celtics when they beat him? Did Duncan join Kobe and the lakers when they beat him? Did Jordan join the pistons when they humiliated him? The answer is no to all of them. They either formed a formidable team to compete like Lebron or put their heads down and got them and their teams better like Jordan and Duncan. Now if Durant would excuse himself from being put in the same convo as any of those players forever fine. It was a weak move simple and plain and I would bet my entire life savings any other superstar in the league would jump at the oppurtunity to play with a top 5 player in westbrook.

Is anyone else having problems with 4chan? I'm seeing double posts. Like, for example, some of the posts in this thread are repeated twice.

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>>73982099
Shut up and sit down, fat man.

>>73983091
I saw two but I'm thinking maybe it's just some idiots.

>>73982810
Its always older heads who don't want to admit a new gen player is better than the players they grew up idolizing or people who only started watching recently and listen to skip

>>73983089
>I would bet my entire life savings any other superstar in the league would jump at the oppurtunity to play with a top 5 player in westbrook.
So why hasn't it happened yet?

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>>73983091
4chanx pastebin makes it do that if the cache is full

>>73983066
he was never in a position to come back, desu if i checked i bet he always lead series, and im just saying that because its fucking Jordan.

WHY do you guys always forget that no matter what, jordan is the ALL TIME GOAT FOR A REASON.

he had titles, mvps, all nba's, all stars, and the fucknig most beautiful individual game in the history of mankind, kobe is the clsest we ever got to nother jordan, we all should all understand this by now, wtf.

/nba/ should bring backto posting Jordan youtube clips, theo nly people that hated on that is curry dick riders. and thats becuase that manlet cant dunk so he will NEVER

NEVER

NEVER

EVERRRRR

be in the same breath as jordan.

you cucks need jesus, and jordan.

>>73983107
Lmao lebron and all his all stars in the world he could play with TO GEt cheap rings would neVER make him better or the same to jordan. Lebron is a ring chaser who couldnt handle one team so he left regardless if he carried them to the playoffs. Then came back and made another triple all star team n good role players to win. Now hes saying he needs help oh my gooooodness a cuadrouple all star team..... Thats sad I'm crying right now

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>>73982871
Lmaoing at this clueless casual

>>73982893

>>73983123
One thing....Jordan. There's no need to make this into anything else. All he has heard from the age of 15 is the comparisons to MJ, and these 2 represent the worst of it...the comparisons that give LeBron no credit at all. The gap between the two is definitely there, but it's not as wide as everyone thinks. Yes, Jordan has won more titles, but who did the Bulls beat? You talk about Jordan's HOF teammates (or lack thereof) but how many HOF players did he play against, and then how much more does that number drop when you add the key words "in their prime." And don't forget, for the 2nd set of 3 championships, the Bulls did the 90's equivalent of what the recent teams have done by acquiring Rodman. Yes, Jordan is the greatest, but LeBron is a lot closer than the Jordan lovers would have you think.

lakers should give lou williams and nick young to the nets for nothing so they can improve their record. no way we are letting the celtics get away with to nunber1 pick in the draft.

>>73983130
>them 2011 thibbz bulls

nevar forget

>>73983130
Michael Jordan NEVER won a championship in the 80s.
He was the best player, and those were his statistical best years.

Yet he never won, until Scottie Pippin was able to overcome the way the Bad Boy Pistons trashed him and became a Superstar.

When Jordan retired, Pippin led the Team to 50 wins.
When Lebron left both Miami and Clevland tanked

>>73983130
>bulls had 62 wins
sometimes i forget how crazy rose was. sad!

>>73983130
>them thibby bulls
>that faggot good celtics team with good D, the year everyone memed for brad stevens
>them paul george hibbert pacers
>that meme hawks team "spurs of da east"
>the raptors lol

>>73983113
No he didn't always lead the series.

Also, he never played a historically great finals team like the Spurs or the Warriors. The best team he ever played in the finals was probably the Supersonics and they weren't very good.

>>73983043
In Jordan's era it was a lot more competitive in the Eastern Conference so it was a tougher road to get to the Finals from the East compared to the time Lebron has played in. Lebron has had the luxury of a much easier path to the Finals in his career by simply playing in the East. Add the largest payroll in league history and huge luxury taxes then how can he get mad at Barkley for calling him whiny? Almost everyone is thinking the same thing.

>>73983144
power switched west nerd

>>73983130
Lebron is only getting a dose of his own medicine. How he feels is how NBA fans and the rest Of league felt when he went to Miami and then helpe create the "top heavy" Cavaliers. He set precedent for players like KD to join a 73 win team in the Golden State Warriors. Step up your leadership and your team may follow.

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>>73983156
>>73983156
>>73983156
this canadian knows nothing. i pray to god he isnt the rbl canuck..

>1991: Bulls 4, LA Lakers 1 – Lakers won Game 1, Bulls owned rest of the series. Scott & Worthy were hurt and missed Game 5. Scott took just 18 shots in the series.
>1992: Bulls 4, Portland 2 – Probably the weakest team the Bulls beat in Jordan’s six trips to the Finals. Won 57 games. Drexler in his prime.
>1993: Bulls 4, Phoenix 2 – I’d listen to an argument that all of LeBron’s Finals opponents were better than this Suns team. Won 62 games. Barkley was the NBA MVP.

>1996: Bulls 4, Seattle 2 – A good Sonics team, and Kemp had a beastly series, but he’s not Dirk, that’s for sure. Won 64 games.
>1997: Bulls 4, Utah 2 – Might be the best team Jordan beat in the Finals. Karl Malone was the League MVP. Won 64 games.
1998: Bulls 4, Utah 2 – Virtually the exact same core as the year prior. Won 62 games.

>klove's back is broken
which east team takes down the Cavs?
sixers? deer? Raptors? Saltics?

>>73983156
NBA has some parity issues. I could have told you before the season started 3 of the teams going to the semi finals. GS, Cavs, Spurs. And more than likely GS and Cavs in the finals. If we already know who are the two top teams are (baring major injuries) why play the regular season.

Holy fuck these LeBron babbies are delusional. MJ is still the GOAT and LeBron cant get to him.

>>73983166

Lebron didn't bring a championship to Cleveland. The zebras and the NBA officials in charge forced 7 for money and ratings. It worked and they get as much credit for Clevelands championship as Lebron. In fact, I give Kyrie more credit than Lebron in that championship.

>>73983156
>No he didn't always lead the series.
>>73983171
>>73983171
LOL KEKNADIA EXPOSED

>>73983197
>LeBron babbies
LeBron's 30/11/9 avg in the finals says differently shitskin. Leading both teams in all major stats. The only thing the refs did was toss out Green for one game. The Warriors still didn't win game 7 at home even with Green having the game of his life.

>>73983182
If you only care about who's champion why even watch sports? It's about the journey.

>>73983212
>everyone else took a shit
FOH cacaroach

>>73983221
The Warriors built a championship caliber team with strong drafts and good coaching and then added to it with a free agent when they needed it. They're doing what ALL NBA teams should be doing. No CBA is ever going to prevent teams from doing those things well.

If Lebron has any problem, it's in not understanding that that his team and Golden State are different breeds entirely. Just because they get to the same end doesn't make them the same animal.

>>73983200
>muh rigged ratings
This has been debunked several times. The NBA doesn't get paid by television stations on a game-by-game basis. They get paid in full for the entire series, whether it is 4 games or 7.

The only money they would have got is from the seats and merchandising, and even then that only adds up to a few million. Not worth the risk if such a scandal ever became exposed.

>>73983159
Jordan has not beaten 1 (one) team that at the time he beat them was as good as the Warriors or Spurs. Never happened. Don't give a fuck about how "hard" the east was, Michael had an easier overall path in his titles. Who were all these difficult teams he had to face anyway? A couple years with the Knicks and then that one Pacers team? That's no different than the grueling series LeBron had against the Pacers and the Celtics.

>>73983221
durant and curry both abondoned any hope of being considered greats the day durant signed. The dilemna is now lebron has to go through a super team the likes neither jordan, magic, or bird ever had to face in order to chase jordan.

>>73983200
Except the contracts are made before the finals even begin so 4 games or 7 the NBA makes no more or less money from TV. Also 73-9 the perfect season would have been the dream outcome for the nba . Gsw are the most popular team ww, average the highest ratings, make the most money from gates, sell the most merchandise and curry would be the new safe non threatening face for the league

>>73983233
>and then added to it with a free agent when they needed it
they didn't need durant, they won a title the year before. if anything barkley should be saying that the memes are whiny and don't want to compete, the only reason lebron is getting backlash is because he put it out on the media.

>>73983245
Stupid leaf, Bird made Parrish and Mccale the players they were. Either was rated that high before playing with Bird. Jordon did the same. Magic did also but his players were great before. Kobe was another. If Lebron had their heart he could have been best ever. With his body nobody including Jordon could have stopped him. Great player smart player but just does not have the class or heart of these other great players. My favorite was the Doc. He changed basketball forever. Jordon would not have been Jordon without Doc J

>>73983249
if lebron beats this team, i got him over jordan on the goat list. He just has to surpass jordan. Lebron 4 titles and beating the memes super team ever assembled. Getting 6 or 7 titles would only confirm AN doubt from ANYONE. sadly, there will be some haters.

>>73983171
Lakers were old. No Kareem. Portland sacked ass man they had one good player. Suns team had one good player with an undeserving MVP. Sonics were solid but not historic. Jazz were old fuckers. Just not comparable to the Warriors and spurs

>>73983211
They were down to the Lakers idiot.

>>73983245
stupid canuck, that pacers team had Reggie miller and the knicks team had patrick ewing. Fucking Hofers and goats at their position, are you retarded or something?

>>73983249
Oh, and he will never overtake MJ. By the time Jordan played 11 full seasons he had 6 rings. LeBron has played 13 full seasons and has 3.

>>73983259
True, but it's generally a lot easier to add free agents into cap space when you're 33-49 than when you're 73-9.

If only Wade had waited before KD signed on the Warriors then he could have went to cleveland

>>73983286
>. Jazz were old fuckers
>>73983277
>ust not comparable to the Warriors and spurs
>Spurs

LEBRON FACED AN OLD SPURS TEAM, WHAT ARE THY PUTTINGI N THEM ILK!?

>>73983212
so you kids are just on the high from the finals. wait until it gets off.

>>73983269
LeBron makes teammates better more than anyone who has ever played the sport except for maybe Magic. You're goddamn delusional. He gifted fucking Mo Williams with an all star birth and made Delly look like a superstar.

>>73983302
>Delly look like a superstar.
yeah cause lebron really helped delly suht down curry when delly D'd his ass up. lol get out of here. i love me some lebron but what you're saying is just plain disrespectful to jordan.

>>73983300
Spurs would have destroyed that Utah Jazz team. They were old in 2013 and 2014 but the big 3 were performing at a high level and they had tons of great young talent and the best coach ever.

>>73983311
I never said LeBron is better than Jordan, I'm saying that Jordan has benefited from circumstances way more than LeBron.

>>73983301
The Spurs' ball movement in the 2014 Finals is probably the best team play ever. Even that same group of players have never played so well before or since. Absolutely remarkable.

>>73983302
So did this mean he's done with the passive aggressive quotes on Twitter & passive aggressively throwing his teammates under the bus & means he's gonna grow a pair and say what he feels right to people's face? And he wonders why people call him "LeBitch James."

>>73983323
It's Lebron's league and everyone else is just playing in it. If I were James I'd just say "Screw it, I'm done" and then watch the league die without him.

>>73983325
Michael punched his teammates in the face and LITERALLY quit basketball for 2 years.

>>73983302
>LeBron makes teammates better

stop this. why is it that every super star he plays with is no longer one and has the life sucked out of them?

>>73983344
What? Kyrie is better. K Love is playing at his highest level. He's not averaging 27/13 because he's not the only guy on his team anymore.

LeBron made a lot of shitty players look pretty good in this first 7 years in the league. You are nuts if you don't think LeBron makes his teammates better. Channing Frye is shooting amazing this year because of him.

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>>73983323
>I'm saying that Jordan has benefited from circumstances way more than LeBron.

i can't believe you're saying this right now cucknadia. why must we always revisit this conversation? Jordan only had pipper, and i love lebron, believe me i do, but we have to face reality when he's had 2 stars around him at all times. So has curry, Duncan i dont know desu i will have to check, but he has had the benefit of great coaching. Jordan has gone 2v2 when it comes to stars on other teams his whole career except maybe the lakers (and he beat them too) lebron has not, except maybe this year where he's going against almost a starting 5 of stars. Lebron has benefitted way more from this weak era where foul calls are outrageous. please canuckdia, inderstand, Jordan is the goat for a reason. and not only that, he did it by domination, he dominated those teams, lebron barely got through them, but give bron credit, a title is a title, but he didnt go throught what jordan did, back then STAR had REAL TALENT.

>>73983337
Lebron is a whiny two-year old who got scolded by an NBA great and a former NBA all-time great coach. Jordan even scolded Lebron when he viewed Kobe in a higher echelon with the 1:1 comment. Lebron is lucky to have what he has - quit whining and play. He wanted this roster - he got it - if he wants more money spend, put it up. Funny how a Hillary supporter like Lebron finds it easy to spend everyone else's money but his own to make his team better. Funny stuff. Jordan never cried about this crap - so maybe he needs to wise up.

>>73983344
Steph is the master of the house in Oaktown, but do you ever hear him publically diss his teammates like Leebron did? No. There is a reason players want to play for the Dubs.

>>73983365
jordan had pippen and rodman...

>>73983365
Jordan left the bulls, the won 55 games and went to game 7 of the ECF. He had a lot more than just Pippen.

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>>73983365
>Jordan only had pipper

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>>73983379
goodnite pipper

>>73983368
Gilbert made an agreement with LeBron to spend as much possible. This is because LeBron generates more money for the cavs than Gilbert could ever pay in tax.

Jordan never went against the Warriors who are better than anyone he's ever beat. But when he was losing to the Pistons he whined a lot.

>>73983369
>>73983371
>>73983379
>>73983386
Championship Seasons
Player Titles 1991 1992 1993 1996 1997 1998
Michael Jordan 6 x x x x x x
Scottie Pippen 6 x x x x x x
B. J. Armstrong 3 x x x
Bill Cartwright 3 x x x
Horace Grant 3 x x x
Stacey King 3 x x x
John Paxson 3 x x x
Will Perdue 3 x x x
Scott Williams 3 x x x
Randy Brown 3 x x x
Jud Buechler 3 x x x
Jason Caffey 3 x x x
Ron Harper 3 x x x
Steve Kerr 3 x x x
Toni Kukoc 3 x x x
Luc Longley 3 x x x
Dennis Rodman 3 x x x
Dickey Simpkins 3 x x x
Bill Wennington 3 x x x
Craig Hodges 2 x x
Dennis Hopson 2 x x
Cliff Levingston 2 x x
Bobby Hansen 1 x
Chuck Nevitt 1 x
Mark Randall 1 x
Rory Sparrow 1 x
Ricky Banton 1 x
Joe Courtney 1 x
Jo Jo English 1 x
Rodney McCray 1 x
Ed Nealy 1 x
Trent Tucker 1 x
Darrell Walker 1 x
Corey Williams 1 x
James Edwards 1 x
Jack Haley 1 x
John Salley 1 x
Robert Parish 1 x
Matt Steigenga 1 x
Brian Williams (Bison Dele) 1 x
Keith Booth 1 x
Scott Burrell 1 x
Joe Kleine 1 x
Rusty LaRue 1 x
David Vaughn 1 x
by all means, tell me from this list of players who could lead a team to a finals OTHER THAN PIPPER?

http://www.michaeljordansworld.com/teammates.htm

>>73983365
I have said it before and I'll say it again. James will never be anywhere near jordan. Jordan dominate games and was clutch when it mattered. Thank God Kyrie took that shot in game seven and not james. I would never want james to win a game with his jump shot. it isnt in him

>>73982124
superior genes

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>>73982705
>>73982718
>>73982684
>>73982679
So are the Cavs the Dodgers/Yankees of the NBA, now? They paid through the nose and expect to win the chip every year but they will always fall short for whatever reason. The only different is that the Cavs did win one chip in the living memory of most of those on 4chan. That's the thing with winning championships you always have to be building your team to be better and for the future and the Cavs didn't do that but the Warriors did. LeBron is just looking for his excuse when he and the Cavs crash and burn during the playoffs or at least that's what it looks like he's doing. Why is that every time his team does bad, he throws his team mates and the FO under the bus?

>>73983395
Well no one LeBron has played with could lead a team to the finals aside from D Wade. Kyrie isn't even a top 5 point guard in the league.

But also after LeBron left the heat they were a fucking lottery team. After he left the Cavs they got 3 #1 picks in 4 years. Jordan leaves the Bulls and they nearly win a title.

>>73983392
Bringing the Warriors into the fold as the reason for James' ire is lunacy. Except in the common sense regard that he wants to win another championship. Everyone does. Cavs have not just sat idle as the Warriors took advantage of the new, messy salary cap situation. Love? Stud shooter from Atlanta? Also, the Warriors lost really good players in Barnes and Bogut to make room for Durant. (In my opinion they really miss Bogut in the middle and it may cost them in the playoffs). Again, just my opinion, but this was way too one-way and slanted to prove a point that is an incredible stretch. Perhaps pressure of having to find new and exciting articles to get our attention on the Information Superhighway - which it did..


>>73983395
>michaeljordansworld

>>73983397
.LOL even taking shots at Kyrie... LeBron fans defend this kind of garbage behavior that shows he has no leadership skills and a weak cry baby.. Self proclaimed best player in the world and always crying for more help!

>>73983360
those 2 are only better now because the cavs have started to meme harder than the warriors. first 2 years love was a ghost and people stopped consodering irving as a top pg. in miami he turned a 24/10 player in bosh into someone completely average.

>>73983422
Bosh was fucking great on the Heat. Obviously their stats are going to suffer when they get 2 more stars playing with them but he was very good. Don't @me ever again

>>73982705
Brian windbag should just ask james to marry him already. This guy is the shallowest, most blatant star-humper to ever "report" on sports and his blind devotion to one of the biggest whiners in professional athletics is overshadowed only by his sheer incompetence as a reporter.

>>73983397
Cause you youtube highlight watching niggas only like guys who play heroball no matter how awful the shot is. I hate you 20 year olds talking about Jordan like you actually watched him play

>>73983426
Didn't bother James going to Miami with all that smoke and music, him, Wade, and Bosh standing there like rap stars.
Sorry LeWhine. Were you too busy celebrating 'Land's championship and missed reaching out to KD as the warriors were all summer long?

>>73982438
yeah it disgusts me
you normies are so gay

>>73983429
When it comes to jordan and lebron he can never be him and that's OK how many players can say they won 6 rings in 7 or 8 years and it wasnt in the bill Russell era neither

>>73983436
He said the same stuff about his team and the warriors the exact same time last year. He needs to chill. The Warriors can be knocked out the playoffs by Houston or Spurs. No one in the East is stopping Cleveland. He has an easy ride to the finals. He needs to relax.

>>73983415
because pipper is michael jordan in a forwards body, go look at pipper highlights, dude is a fucking legend.
i've said it once and ill say it again
Scottie pipper > Lebron James. don't @ me.

listen thought, this league is fucking weak aside from lebron and Westbrook and maybe wade and kawhii, all the "stars" are lame, lets list a few shall we, and im not talking skill im talking mental toughness, shit that wins you titles in the right situation.

curry? go punked in the finals and choked
AD? lol can't even stay on the court
KD well we all know already
damian lillard? 100 - 0 real quick
clippers big 3? over rated
melo? pathetic

compared to the stars jordan went through, they're role players. so if these guys are the best of the best, them imagine what the guys not as good as them are, although im sure we can find some tough bench players in this era. i forgot where i was getting at but point is, lebron only had pippen and they won because he himself was jordan-tier, and they dominated other teams that would make this eras contenders a joke, and dont say spurs because they're nothing without pops.

>>73983429
how can you sit there and criticize Jordan if YOU havnet watched him play either? i believe older heads when they say Jordan is goat, and the youtube vids only confirm that, we all have seen lebron in the crunch and off the court. Jordan was always a professional.

>>73983446
What the fuck

>>73983457
LeBron's crunch time play is average, Jordan's is just amazing. Jordan was also much much worse off the court and everyone knows this. He got away with a shitty attitude and being an asshole because he was the best.

>>73983465
real niggas were were literally scared of jordan. Lebron is known as a puss

>>73983457
>we all have seen lebron in the crunch
incredibly clutch

>Jordan was always a professional.
dude bullied 2 of his teammates so bad they quit basketball. punched kerr in the face. had insane amount of gambling debt which is speculated why his dad died and david stern made him leave for 2 years. jordan was and is a massive dickhead. im not saying hes not the goat im saying its a double standard when people criticize lbj for things so tame and give mj a pass for much worse. if mj and barkely played in the twitter era they would be the most vilified players ever

and no oldheads always glorify players they grew up watching rather than the current crop. youll do the same with this gen

>>73983477
>real niggas were were literally scared of Jordan
LOL THIS, SOO MUCH AHAH.

i can't believe /nba/ is arguing that lebron has a better legacy so far than jordan. Jordan was not that guy he was THEE GUY

>>73983416
>Self proclaimed best player in the world and always crying for more help!

he's literally just asking for a backup PG that can run the offense when he's not on the court because the Cavs just fucking collapse when LeBron is not playing
did you know that since his return to Cleveland the Cavs are fucking 4-18 when LeBron doesn't play? that should give you an idea of how much help he actually has

>>73983477
No one was scared of him in a non basketball sense my dude.

>thread is back to lebron/curry dickriding
Fuck this can we talk about the raps/Celts game instead? I'm really starting to think this general is so dead because the league fucking sucks. We need more parity in the worst way.

>>73983492
no one is even remotely talking about manlet-rry fuck off, we're talking about goats.

>best /nba/ has ever been in years
>300 posts in 2 hours
>celtics fags derail it with a reg season game with no meaning