/VIRGIN/ seems like there hasn't been one for a few days

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26 (Yesterday) Male UK.

Was supposed to get laid yesterday, then the bloody flu happened.

>>23875009
That picture's new.. Spicy!

>>23875009
To all the cute virgin girls in europe, I'm available to take your virginity

>>23875068
*tips fedora

>>23875096
*tips fedora back*

Bumping, because there's usually interesting people in these threads.

21/m/can
Not kissless tho...

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>>23875269
20/F/USA

Kissless, eye contactless, sexless, unliked (afaik), untouched, unhugged virgin. I am 100% serious. Spent almost all my time either as a truant or spending my time in deserted parts of the school as a student.

Feels good.

Side note. I took both psychology and sociology courses in highschool, and both had texts that said sex was some sort of essential thing. I was so disgusted.

25/m/France

kissless virgin.

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>>23875285

Well. Propogation of the species is *kind of* a biological imperative...

As for everything else, I find our description quite endearing. Though, I'd have less sympathy if you were fat.

>>23875285
It is essential for most, we're still animals

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21 Male United States of Diabetes

Not kissless anymore but I still feel like I might somehow make it to being a wizard. I make lots of guy friends and I am super outgoing but there is something about my face/personality/who the fuck knows that keeps them repulsed.

>>23875315
>>>/r9k/

>>23875285
If you're happy with your situation - like, actually happy and feeling no desire to have sex, not just telling yourself you're happy - you might just be asexual. Nothing wrong with that.

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>>23875315
>>23875324
Holy shit people actually think like this.

>>23875324
I feel Schopenhauer

>>23875285
Is your hymen still intact?

>>23875285
22/M/USA

Same as you except I've had hugs, just extremely few and far between except for from family, and they were brief and platonic.

Haven't even held hands with someone :(

Just wanna cuddle with someone and have actual human contact. Not even necessarily sex.

>>23875324
Man you have to calm down. Biologically speaking it is necessary for hormonal regulation n shit.

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>>23875300
Not fat at all. I weigh a whopping 108lbs at 5'2.

>>23875345
Yep.

>>23875324
>>23875300
It's not so much the biological imperative that the texts alluded to. It was more that there was some psychological benefits to having sex that were necessary for normal human life. The way the texts phrased it, it was like you could not lead a normal life unless you had regular sex. I get the propagation of the species, but that is just having sexual intercourse for as many kids as you will have. Aside from that, sex isn't necessary.

>>23875315
Good god calm down.

>>23875372
Can... Can I pat your head?

>>23875375
>3/16(Fri)16:22:26 No.23875375 ▶
>>>23875363
>Masturbation has proved to be a fine substitute.
This.

>Get out, subhuman anime posting beast.
>10. Be respectful to each other.
Get out, rule breaker.

>>23875375
You can be a virgin without being a salty virgin

>Not at all. I weigh a whopping 108lbs at 5'2.

Smashing

>It's not so much the biological imperative that the texts alluded to. It was more that there was some psychological benefits to having sex that were necessary for normal human life. The way the texts phrased it, it was like you could not lead a normal life unless you had regular sex. I get the propagation of the species, but that is just having sexual intercourse for as many kids as you will have. Aside from that, sex isn't necessary.

Subversive garbage. Cheerfully ignore it.

>>23875372
Have you ever tried to see it?

>>23875372

You sound pretty cute :3

Now I get why you're virgins, you're all autistic as fuck lol

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anyone actually waiting for marriage

>>23875372
>It was more that there was some psychological benefits to having sex that were necessary for normal human life. The way the texts phrased it, it was like you could not lead a normal life unless you had regular sex.
That's insane, people have only been having premarital sex for less than a century, and not often within marriage because no birth control

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>>23875414
>people have only been having premarital sex for less than a century, and not often within marriage because no birth control

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>>23875414
>That's insane, people have only been having premarital sex for less than a century, and not often within marriage because no birth control
Erm. The latter I will give you, but people have been having unprotected sex and premarital and extramarital sex for millennia. There are countless historical texts that indicate this. It is more that it has been culturally and socially unacceptable for most of history, and only recently became more acceptable.

>>23875383
Sure.

>>23875414
>anyone actually waiting for marriage

At this point; yeah why not.

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>>23875445
>Sure.

>>23875372

I assume that the text was more referring to the direct neurological benefits from sex. The fact that it can improve heart health and sleep habits for men, relieve stress and keep hormones more balanced for women.

Along with the more indirect benefit of bonding with another person which all humans are predisposed to want to some degree. We all want a 'tribe' for security in body and mind. That's the oxytocin part.

I have to think it alieviates stress and anxiety related to physical appearance and acceptability to other people. It can give a feeling of value. Cheap as it may be, but that's where co-dependants and people who are always in toxic relationships come from. It's about balance.

All this comes from reading and talking to folks since...well, I'm here ain't I?

>>23875445
Well I didn't mean that literally not one single person ever got laid, but it is a new phenomenon for EVERYONE to get laid.

I remember my sociology textbook said in the 60s at the start of the sexual revolution, 60% of unmarried women were virgins but by the 90s that had fallen to 5%.
And the 60s were already departing from the norm, you go back to through all of human history or modern day Pakistan and most people never had much sex, it's crazy to say it's necessary. Humans don't have to be tindr sluts.

>>23875451
Dude you see how most people have like 20 partners in college and it's just gross desu
It's reassuring to think I'd only ever be with my wife
And I couldn't trust her if she was a whore in the past
Dream is just pop her cherry and start making babies

>>23875269
ey bro I have the same boxers

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18/f/uk

I'm socially spastic and afraid of having an intimate relationship like that
I wish I could just be married to a nice man and be a qt waifu and not have to worry about it

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>>23875543
>>23875507
yup

>>23875507

I absolutely agree with you, although if people want to be degenerates that's up to them as long as they don't bother me with it.

>>23875543
Do you crave for sex?

>>23875254
If anyone's that interesting.. They probs wouldn't be virgins now!

>>23875269
Fuuuuuuck Youuuuu!
..Oh wait, virgin, my bad.

>>23875312
Nah you're not bad looking. ..must be your political views

>>23875588
Yeah I might, thanks! I enjoy my own company..
Dipshitttt

>>23875543

Out of curiosity, where abouts in Blighty are you?

I want to get married too 2bdesu but how am I supposed to find a girl like that. Was talking to a girl for weeks till she started expecting sex and then everything was spaghetti

I don't want to waste so much time like that

Do you retards want to wait for marriage because you're some sort of religious freak or what?

>>23875668
kind of plus it would be better to have a virgin wife

D-Does doing it with another girl without penetration count?
If yes, i am still virgin. About myself:
>turning 20
>shy weeb lesbian
>loves kawaii shit
>acts though but needs love.
>Technically never saw a real dick in real life
>Enjoy a single life

>>23875697
Is your hymen still intact?

>>23875697
I mean if you had sex with a girl then you had sex so you aren't a virgin

>>23875445
Alright so is there an actual reason you havent gone out of your way for it or just not worth the effort you think?

>>23875697

I'd say you're still a virgin. I personally wouldn't have a problem with a woman having had some lesbian experiences to 'explore'. It's much better than sleeping around with lads in my opinion, at any rate.

>>23875543
>afraid of having an intimate relationship like that
Same. I had one gf at 17. And a bf when i was like 15. But gosh i was always feeling so anxious, and when it came to sexy times with my gf i felt even more anxious. I can barely fit my pinky down there...
When she held my hand on our first date i was sweating spaghettis already

>>23875697

Whether or not you've had sex is contingent upon your preference and consent. Some weirdos and trolls on here might tell you otherwise, but that seems pretty objectively true to me.

>>23875668

Not necessarily. Optimally I would want to develop a bond and affection and honesty that anyone would want from a mate. Compeltely open with feelings, aspirations, fears, etc. and let that meld into the casual ease of a friendship and lover dynamic. Lots of kissing, snuggling, hugging and physical affection, but sex doesn't have to happen right away.

If I knew a girl long enough and felt comfortable enough with her, I'd be willing to get married before having sex, but I don't think that's a requirement. I am not religious, but I see the value in having that long term commitment before sex.

Though I am aware it has more to do with love and affection than any social status.

>>23875668
It's just a Fox and the Grapes kind of thing with people like that.

>>23875697
>never seen a real dick irl
Hey, join the club! Also, FxF sex is still sex. You are not a virgin.

>>23875723
>When she held my hand on our first date i was sweating spaghettis

Anyone who really cares about you won't mind and probably find that endearing. Male or female.

>>23875699

Girls can tear their hyman without ever having seen a dick or dildo.

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>>23875009
Hello there, it's your friendly neighborhood voice reader again. As part of my esoteric research, I am looking for the voices of virgins. I have already met my quota on males, so I am looking specifically for females. If you help me by providing a voice sample, I can give you a reading when I get home.

What I need is 30 to 40 seconds minimum (more is better, of course) of freely spoken (nothing prepared or recited) conversational (like you're talking to someone) speech.

You can post it here or email me:
[email protected]

>>23875740
That's like asking for the voice of someone who's left-handed

>>23875668
Not for religious reasons. Also, there is something really really special about knowing you are the only person your partner has had sex with. Even better if you have most if not all of their firsts, and you give them yours. I do not want a guy who has been with countless women, and I do not want to be the same.

19/m/aus
Kissless virgin here have had a few shots at relationships but pussied out because anxiety now am better but chances remain low. There is a gay guy thats into me but i think ill stick to anime as my substitute for romance.

>>23875269
Actually there is no such thing as a virgin male,
only women can be born as virgins

sex is classically defined as genital contact,
with the genitals of another person,
or Oral or Anal contact with the genitals.
Specifically Penis in the vagina.

Given that most births are through the vagina,
and most boys are born with penises
most men are born non-virgins,
as they lost their virginity to their mother during birth.

Only men born through caesarean section
are actually Virgins

>>23875285
>>23875372
>>23875384
sexual instinct is biologically programmed into your DNA
if you don't have any sexual interest in the opposite sex
it means there is something fundamentally wrong with you.

clearly you don't understand how important sexual hormones
and human sexual interaction is to mental health.

>>23875753
Are you 7 years old?

>>23875744
Sound reasoning i guess

>>23875710
My,my, you seem to have lost your way to/r9k/.

>>23875699
Yes it is. Maybe it broke when i tried to put a whole finger down though...

>>23875702
Yeah. But what is having sex,truly...? Lots of people say that if there isn't penetration it doesn't count so...kinda lost there.


Anyway i am in no way ashamed of it. I think it's fine? Like i don't feel ready for that. It'll maybe happen one day. Virginity is kind of a stupid concept in a way (some people judge some other people for still having it or not) so i don't really care.

>>23875756
when did you last meet a 7 year old who knew how babies are born?
are you 2 years old?

>>23875614
I'd call you a dense motherfuckkker but...
Well, you know.

>>23875740
go to fsa 90% of the girls there are virgins

>>23875744
Yeah that does seem enjoyable. But many people here look at it as a requirement or something. Not only is it unreasonable as it is unrealistic marriage isn't permanent by any means.

>>23875766
I meant the logic and reasoning of the statement, which is being proven further with each reply.

>>23875764
no cause the legs are closed
have you never seen a birth?

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>>23875753
>if you don't have any sexual interest in the opposite sex it means there is something fundamentally wrong with you.
This is anti-gay propaganda if I ever saw it.

>>23875763
>Maybe it broke when i tried to put a whole finger down though...
Just to clarify things here for everyone, the hymen does not "break" per se (most of the time). It is like an opening that expands with the introduction of an object into the vagina. A finger may not be big enough to expand the hymen, so it could still be "intact". Same goes for a tiny penis, though. A hymen being "intact" does not mean one is a virgin.

Also, I believe the hymen can eventually heal (basically return to its unexpanded form).

Seeing the replies on this thread I hope you guys don't breed, we already have too much human waste

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>>23875770
I probably got more girls than you ever got in your entire life but don't be upset, maybe one day someone else than your mother will love you

>>23875742
Quite different, but you reminded me of something to consider for something coming up. Thank you for your inadvertent assistance.

>>23875775
This comes as a surprise to me. Thanks for letting me know. I don't frequent those threads. Do they make this common knowledge? It's hard to read voices with recitation.

>>23875784
I take it thinking you were pushed through the same tunnel
that your father sticks his dick in makes you uncomfortable
would you like to talk about your mother complex?

>>23875744

I echo this. Easy to say, but it's actually not difficult to get a girl whose even moderately attractive to have sex with you. I just don't want to be another dick and I don't want her to just be another hole. That's just sex for sex, if I wanted that I would have lost my virginity at 15 and bagged 20+ by now.

I don't even feel like putting the label of 'long term' fully describes it, more that you just want to connect with someone on a lot of levels and really know you're exploring and growing together.

>>23875789
I found the SJW
they really are like vegans and gays

>>23875789
Ah yeah sorry! English is not my mother language and i couldn't find a proper term.

>>23875801
>Do they make this common knowledge?
Mostly. There's a prompt "questions for new girls" and most of them are about sex, and they'll always admit that they're virgins at that point.

>>23875802
Uh, no. It's that you're connecting two things that are barely alike. You're like that kid that claimed I'm technically touching you because my foot is touching my shoe which is touching the floor which is touching the earth which is touching... etc. etc. Just because you were birthed doesn't mean you fucked your mother.

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I want /pol/and /r9k/ to leave

It kinda sucks to think about, but I'm not really sure that I'm just meant for relationships with other people. I've been told, at least on here, that I'm okay looking, but I don't know how to advance any relationship beyond friendship. I can't really get too mad at anyone other than myself, though, since it's my own fault that I'm still a virgin at 20. At this point, I don't imagine that there will be many people accepting of me not having the knowledge that I'm supposed to at this point, at least regarding sex and relationships. At least I still have my animu.

>>23875823
were you clothed in your mother's womb?
were you born in a condom?
No?
then guess what your penis, along with the rest of you
touched the inside of your mother's vagina
meaning, you aren't a virgin, you can't be.

>>23875839
dude you're even more retarded than those virgins

>>23875839
Okay we're just talking in circles because you're a fucking retard that can only say the same thing over and over like it's somehow helping your argument. So I'm going to stop this short.

Also, by your logic, I don't see how that would rule out females as if they don't have genitals at birth.

>>23875789

Aren't the circumstances of a hyman growing back quite extreme? Like a nun or a woman in a coma?

>>23875852
Here's a copypasta

It is possible that a woman's hymen will never break and there are women who are born without a hymen. If the hymen was whole at one point and torn, then it will not grow back. There is a common myth that implies that you can tell if a woman is a virgin by whether her hymen is intact or not. This is not true.

>>23875857
and it's not actually "breaking", it just tears a bit

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>>23875852
It just requires that the opening not be stimulated for a while. One can still masturbate and such, but as long as the hymen is not passed, it should close back to how it was.

>>23875857
>If the hymen was whole at one point and torn, then it will not grow back.
This is more for the hymens that never had an opening to begin with. Pic related.

>>23875871
The open ones will expand, they will never go back to the first shape

>>23875851
a women only loses her virginity if she is penetrated
a guy loses his virginity if he penetrates
if born naturally a male loses his virginity
but as a girl isn't penetrated when she is born she keeps her virginity

did you fail sex ed? or sleep through the class?
elementary students learn this shit in school.

>>23875737
That's why I ask
>>23875763
Have you ever tried to see it?

>>23875882

But that has more to do with the vagina changing shape from either numerous sexual encounters or having children.

I wasn't asking if the hyman would return to its 'original form', clip a finger nail and it won't grow back the same way, sprain and finger and it will never quite be the same, that's not really the question.

>>23875906

What's the point in asking? It's not proof of whether or not a girl has ever had sex, so what does it matter unless it's a fetish?

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>>23875789
No, it doesn't. Once stretched it stays stretched.

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>>23875917

>>23875908
I may have misunderstood you, anyway, the hymen doesn't grow back. Search through the internet if you don't believe

>>23875917
>>23875920

I remember her. She was so nice :<

>>23875914
It's a fetish

>>23875917
this

>>23875917
>>23875920
Oh... I constantly heard in school and in texts that it would eventually unstretch if you didn't introduce any objects afterward. My mistake I guess. No firsthand experience, afterall.

19/f

KHV. my life is hard. its a chore sometimes ignoring all the guys who try to talk to me and stuff, I wish I wasnt so shy. :(

>>23875920
>>23875917

What was the time interval between when she first had sex and the 'after' photo? A week, a month, a year?

>>23875923

Suppose I will.

>>23875951

From what I remember there was about 2 months between both pictures, and she did it herself using marker or pen or something like that. She did not have sex and her hymen didn't tear.

>>23875942
Just become a shut-in if you don't like it, or don't go places where guys casually walk up to girls and try to talk to them.

Do you go to clubs, bars and parties a lot or something?

>>23875937
the vagina gets tighter, I was in a long distance relationship because I moved countries, I'd stay away for some months, then I'd stay with my ex for some weeks... When I got back and had sex with her she was really tight, then after some days the vagina became "normal" again.

>>23875952
ikr! its sooo stressful being smothered in attention online. and whenever i go out i just want to be left alone but guys just keep trying to be nice and flirt with me. All of them creeps too. hopefully some day mr. right will find me.

>>23875961

Now I'm just curious about how that functions, guess it's worth researching a bit.

>>23875952
>>23875942

Virgin or no, the men who will approach you unsolicited in person or online will mostly be creeps. Makes it more difficult for everyone.

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>>23875997
I want this salty robot to go back to /r9k/

>>23875991
Or maybe it's always been like that? Open your eyes, not all men want to fuck you. Some of us just look for friendship, it's girls like you that always think that men want something sexual, grow the fuck up

>>23876017
Yeah, what a loser lol. no wonder they are a virgin.

>>23876044
I actually like this guy, you guys don't even realize he's shitting you all

>>23876044
yeah i dont get they are so bitter. if they just tried being confident, having a good job, being tall, having a good personality with lots of friends, and being nice and charming they could get laid easily. but they dont even want to try they're just lazy neckbeards.

Anyway im outta here. I have like 30 skype convos to go through lol.

>>23876052
Hey, if you like that he is driving all females from this thread more power to you. But this thread will become a sausagefest and hugbox if that happens.

I guess his goal is to be surrounded by dicks.

>>23876044
>>23876031
>>23876017

Is it possible for a guy from this board to not be a weirdo or creep?

I'm not, I know that about myself. If I talk one-on-one with a girl and there's no chemistry, no common interests or she just starts ignoring me that's fine, I move on with my life. I'm not broken up about it or angry, plenty of fish, you know?

But I don't know if it's possible to convey that on this thread. Like I said in this post...

>>23875727

I want something simple and realistic, but I would prefer to share a first time.

>>23876082
Nah I liked his sarcasm and the fact that most fell for it, also soc is a sausagefest anyways

>>23875951
It was just fingering. A month

19/m/german

I actually look alright but I'm kinda autistic and shy so therefore FA.

>>23876102
His sarcasm would be more amusing if he didn't blindly attack the genuine female virgins. I agree that some girls are idiots, but he is generalizing and lumping all of us together.

>>23876098
Yeah not all are creeps, as I stated before if I talk to a girl it doesn't imply I'm sexually interested in her. Then if she starts being interesting I can start feeling something more than friendship

>>23876082
it seems that his goal is to get rid of the dumb skanks who act as if being a virgin is actually something that matters for them

>>23876114
Isn't that the point of sarcasm though?

>>23876098
I'd hope that I don't come off as a weirdo or a creep. I have friends, both male and female, so I don't think I come off that way. But I do think there are a bit too many guys here to seem to wrongly resent women because of their own short comings.

>>23876139

I hope most of those who are resentful are trolls because I really do have a hard time believing there are really than many women hating, MGTOW types. There are shits in this world, male and female, socially conditioned and otherwise. Lumping them all together is the easy way of justifying your own shortcomings and, worse yet, not improving yourself.

>>23876169
I think it also has something to do with the sorts of people who are likely to be browsing 4chan, and then mores specifically, the kinds of people posting in threads for virgins. It's easy for some people to forget that, like men, women are naturally going to have preferences for certain kinds of people. When learning that they might not meet those criteria, they'd rather lash out at what they view as unfair treatment, and wrongly attribute rejection by a few women as rejection of all.

>>23875983
The vagina gets. But not the hymen

>>23876224
that's what I was trying to explain lol

>>23876152
Well based on your previous posts, here is my defense for myself.

>my last bf(it doesn't really count since we only had sex ONCE, I'm still pretty much a virgin) was sooo hot, superrrr talll, really confident, made 6 million a year and honestly it's so easy to do all that if you just decide to be yourself! like what is with these guys??????

I do not have any standards for men or women besides them not being insufferable. Actually, I do have one particular preference. I hate the standard "handsome" man, and overly fit guys.

I have never had sex, and I would never have sex outside of marriage (personal preference and respect, not any religious reasoning. See my previous post >>23875744 )

>like what is it with creepy guys wanting to talk to me??
I've actually never encountered any guys who have actively tried to talk to me outside of assignments when I was in highschool and such. I made it a point in highschool to avoid everyone possible, and always kept to myself in the deserted areas of the school. People caught onto this fairly quick, and left me alone and never tried to talk to me.

In terms of the whole "Open your eyes, not all men want to fuck you" thing, I never once thought this. It isn't hard to tell which guys try this and which one don't, so I tend not to generalize. I am fully capable of making friends with people of the opposite sex without getting uncomfortable or defensive.

I remember seeing a post about girls pretending virginity is important to them (or something along those lines), but I can't find it. To address that, I will just say that I would feel absolutely gross if I were to have sex with just any random guy. I want my first time to be with my husband. I know that is a fairytale dream, but it isn't impossible. I would gladly stay a virgin forever if I do not end up marrying.

>>23876169
How delusional does one have to be to convince themselves that the playing field in the dating and sexual marketplace is equal between men and women? That's what I'd really like to know.

There are like 5 fat girl threads on the front page of /soc/ at any given time where a couple of disgusting whores with no self control are getting swarmed with compliments.

If you are a female virgin it is by choice. Period.

>the autistic whiteknight mods are at it again
lmaoooo
fuck mods, fuck women, and fuuuuucck norps

>>23876212

Oh, absolutely, do an honest poll of the male virgins on these thread and better than 90% would say no to a 300 pound, toothless, unkempt, foul smelling 2/10 and insist she lose weight and fix herself before she'd have a chance, but god forbid they spend 45 minutes a day working out, eating well and showering.

Weirdly enough, that one girl who was the redhead from Colorado who had lost a ton of weight seemed like someone I'd want to talk to, but she was pretty convinced that her body was a mess from when she was fat. I dunno if that's true, but the simple fact that she changed her life like that makes her the kind of person I gravitate toward. That and she had one of those faces that would launch a thousands ships, you know?

>>23876244
>Perhaps this wasn't made clear to you. For women, virginity, social ineptitude, and other various factors which would inhibit me simply because I am a male, are not frowned upon. In fact, they are often seen as desirable. It doesn't even have to do with whether or not you want a relationship. Society as a whole views us as different people. Your worth in the eyes of the world is far greater than my own, and as such, you shall never experience virginity the way I have. Your experience wouldn't even be similar! Don't dare act as if you're a true virgin.
As for this, I will actually concede the point. Women have a higher value in society, and almost every one could easily lose their virginity by showing even a modicum of interest to an interested party. This isn't to say a girl can just walk up to a random guy on the sidewalk for sex. There have been social experiments where guys have actually rejected the offer. But it is indeed far easier.

However, I will argue that this is only true for women under a certain age. It starts to get harder and harder as a woman ages for them to just randomly give their virginity away. It does start to get somewhat weird and creepy after a point.

>>23876256
One of the rules of /soc/ is literally not to be mean to girls. I wouldnt bother posting in such a shit hole if I couldnt ban evade.

>>23876266
It isn't just being mean to girls. The rule is to be respectful to everyone.

>10. Be respectful to each other.

>>23876259
In fairness to her, I lost a 100 pounds over a the course of a year and even when I still feel like fat all the time, even though my BMI is 19 now. If you spend a long time being ugly, it's a mindset that never leaves.

>>23876272
Oh fuck off. Nobody would give a shit if a guy was insulted. I got insulted multiple times, were any of those people banned?
>>23876266
Yeah, fuck these whiteknighting faggots.

>>23876253

In this society anyone whose a virgin past the age of 16 is that by choice. Anyone here can get sex within the next 48 hours or less with no prostitutes being involved, male or female, no matter who they are or what they're bringing.

Want a female majority? Go to a liberal arts college campus. Go to a 50+ single ladies night at a bar. You'll get fawned over like those fat girls, but you'd probably look just as repugnant or unlikable from the outside as the girls in those thread do to you.

>>23876280

Being humble is no vice, just don't let it harm your ability to pursue what you want in life.

>>23876284
>Anyone here can get sex within the next 48 hours or less with no prostitutes being involved
It's fucking unbelievable that people actually think this way. I've given up on real women, but if I actually tried, I would be riduculed to no end. Fuck you.

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>>23876271
I am not ugly. Was rated at 7/10 in a rate thread. It is more that I established that I did not want to talk to anyone early on, and people caught on. Read before you respond.

>>23876281
If you do not report the post, they will not get banned. Mods and janitors are not omniscient.

>>23876244
I wasn't referring to you with the "open your eyes" thing
Btw you sound confused, you say you're capable of making friends, yet you avoid everyone? Explain that, I may have missed some of your posts

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>>23876284
>Anyone here can get sex within the next 48 hours or less with no prostitutes being involved, male or female, no matter who they are or what they're bringing.

Are you sure about that?

>>23876295
yeah right fatty lmaooOooooooOooOooOoOooooo
also it wouldn't matter if I reported it, kys
the mods wouldn't do a damn thing

>>23876284
You didn't answer my question. How did you become so delusional?

I am genuinely curious.

>>23876295
also
>I was rated 7/10 by thirsty betas who would rate anything that remotely resembles a female as above average
Lmaoooo

>>23876297
I didn't think you were referring to me, I just figured it would be a good thing to respond to regardless.

I prefer to be alone, so I tend to stay away from everyone rather than seeking them out. In situtations where i was forced to make conversation, people tended to like talking to me. I've had quite a few online friends too, without revealing my gender.

>>23876305
108lbs and 5'2, see my second post in this thread. Also, have you even tried to report the posts? Or are you speculating?

>>23876311
Was also rated that in a group chat by someone who absolutely hated me.

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>>23876311
Can't argue with that

>>23876315
if you're really 7/10 you can post your pic on here, how can we believe you?

>>23876307
>>23876298
>>23876292

Anyone who doesn't believe that isn't aware of, or at least won't admit to, having standards. I didn't say have sex with someone you're attracted to or enjoy the company of, I just said sex. You become a far less bitter person when you admit that sex is always available but you don't want it until its on your terms, which is not a bad thing, just don't act like a victim because your waifu hasn't fallen into your arms yet.

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>>23876323
Don't wanna, and you don't have to.

>>23876329

>try to make it work with chubby girls since I have no right to go after skinny ones
>they all still want a skinny hot guy

You just can't win, some people are meant to die alone why can't you just accept it?

>>23876337
I mean the thing that the other anon said is right, I've seen disgusting girls even get 8/10 on rate threads, so your rating is irrelevant

>>23876347
From what I have seen, chubby girls tend to be the biggest sluts with the most unrealistic standards.

>>23876329
>when you admit that sex is always available but you don't want it until its on your terms

I won't admit that because it simply isn't true for males. Its actually pretty simple to prove it. Just make a few profiles on a dating website. One profile of an ugly guy, and one of an ugly girl (try to use your judgement to get them in the same league) then try your luck with the ugliest person you find of the opposite gender. Then try again with a profile of an attractive male.

I doubt it would do much good for you to see the truth so clearly though. You seem to have your head firmly planet within the depth of your ass.

>>23876347

Some people will die alone, but anyone can find some slag or beast who lives in her own filth that'll take what she can get.

>chubby girls

There are cute, mindful and hygienically sound chubby girls and there are worn out, nasty, smelly chubby girls and you know it.

>>23876365
>virgin
>slut
nounderogatory
1.
a woman who has many casual sexual partners.
synonyms:promiscuous woman, prostitute, whore;

>>23876374
>virgin
>has sucked thousands of cocks and has a gigantic blown out vagina
lmao

>>23876350

Well I know no one will ever like me anyways so it hurts less to get rejected by girls, I still try my chances tho.

>>23876368

So why having standards is bad I don't get it? I don't swing beyond my league, I try to play in my own field but that doesn't work too. I don't know what you're trying to prove man, not gonna fuck some homeless std ridden fat girl just to have sex.

>>23876354
Your first problem is believing dating websites are a metric to judge real life by. Unlike real life, where more things than just your appearance can be measured (like confidence and personality) what you see in the profile picture of OkCupid is the only metric with which the other person has to judge.

>>23876354

As a matter of fact I have done this!

Even better, I conducted the experiment with a friend. Her and I made OkC profiles, our own pics, nearly blank. She was the queen of sea cows, shaved head (wore a wig, she was going bald young, one pic without the wig, not the profile pic though) decent face.

I was a chubby, tall, scruffy dude with greasy long hair. I have since lost a lot of weight and get regular haircuts, but at the time I was no prize.

She got about a dozen unsolicited messages a week, I got none, BUT I send out about 10 short messages a day. Both of us had gone on at least 2 dates by the end of the month, neither of us liked the people we dated and moved on, but point is that maybe it takes more work (online, not everywhere) for a guy, but it's just not really a challenge.

>>23876379
>has never seen a penis in real life
>bisexual and leaning toward females
>the idea of premarital sex repulses me
>oral sex counts as sex

>>23876386
Put yourself out there on dating sites. It will of course take a while, and you have to take the initiative sometimes, but I am sure it would work out. You don't have to go for girls under or within your league. I know this is an almost cringey bit of advice, but just be yourself and get to know the girls you talk to.

>>23876368

>anyone can find some slag or beast who lives in her own filth that'll take what she can get.
I still find it hard to believe that ANYONE can lose their virginity after 16, especially in 48 hours. Perhaps in your area there are sluts who will take literally anyone, male or female, but how are you expected to find them? Especially in a lower populated area I can't imagine 48 hours being long enough.

>>23876390
>confidence and personality

Hahahaha. Oh man.

Just be yourself bro! Give me a fucking break dude.

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>>23876394
Oral sex is most definitely sex. You literally saidit yourself. Oral SEX.
Also
>is a gigantic roast beef vagina whore
>thinks she's a "virgin"
Loving EVERY laugh lad

>>23876386

I literally said...
>>23876329
>"don't want it until its on your terms, which is not a bad thing, just don't act like a victim because your waifu hasn't fallen into your arms yet."

That is my central point. Stop acting like victims and accept that not every girl you like will like you back. Not every person will like you. Don't let that devastate every aspiration you have in life!

>>23876406
I wasn't saying it wasn't. I was saying that oral sex was in fact sex, and re-establishing my previous point. The idea of premarital sex repulses me, and oral sex counts as sex. Thus, I would not do that to pretend I was still a virgin.

Also.
>roast beef vagina
Innie.

>>23876399

Legitimate point, I live in a city so it would be do-able. But between internet and your own social network I suspect no more than a couple weeks. But again, this precludes any standards in a partner.

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Having fun, children?

>>23876399
I don't know.. If i was desperate I could pretty easily loose mine twice in 12! But then again, London

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>>23876413
>innie
>vagine looks like it was carved out by a chainsaw

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>>23876394

Well I look like this so I pretty much have no chance until I go down to the weight I want. Looks are everything in our time, if you don't have the looks it doesn't matter how confident you are because there are dudes with good looks that are confident so why the fuck would people choose you? Also "just b urself" seriously?

>>23876411

I don't act like a victim though, I just know that no one will ever like me.

>>23876400
When did I tell you to be yourself? The fact is, things like confidence and personality play a role in relationships. You ever see an ugly guy with an attractive woman (better yet, an ugly guy who you know isn't super rich)? I've seen it plenty. While some women might place physical attractiveness high on their priorities (and, honestly, it's their right to do so), it's not the same for all. Hell, I've been attracted to conventionally unattractive women because I liked them as people, and there isn't much of a reason to think it's the other way around. If you honestly believe that physical attraction is the only attraction, then you're deluding yourself.

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>>23876422
Is it ever fun here?

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>>23876425
That is actually pretty accurate.

>>23876427
I've seen guys who look like you with girlfriends. It isn't impossible. As for the "just be yourself" thing... Which would you prefer. A relationship with someone who has no idea how you really are, and who thinks of you as some idea... Or someone who loves you for you, and who likes doing the same things as you?

Don't turn yourself into something you are not just as a way to get tail. Eventually it will start to depress you or drive you mad.

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>>23876443
I'm having fun, idk about everyone else

>>23876427
Grow older, get some scruff on your face, and cut your hair to look more kept and you'll have a much better chance.

>>23876443

Well, depends on your perspective, I suppose. The arguments are quite amusing.

People seem to pin a lot of things on their virginity, so... I understand why they get so /r9k/. But at the same time, they really shouldn't.

There won't be some sudden metamorphose of personality because of it.

>>23876446

>implying I'm not already mad

My real self is a self loathing, depressive, cynical, asocial, bitter and hateful, submissive with 0 self esteem. Feel free to find me a girl that'll like these features.

>>23876456

I'm 27.

>>23876427
Also if you need a girl to complete some part of your life, it probably means you have some other shit to sort out broheim! :D GL Man

>>23876461
Okay, but why are you like that?

I was referring more to doing things you enjoy without restraint, and not hiding the aspects of yourself that you might think a girl would not like. Don't dig yourself deeper. Try to stay positive.

>>23876446
too bad wood and flesh are comoletely different things with completely different properties, you daft cunt.

>>23876461
Give up on these whores, brother. Women are truly worthless creatures! Their only redeeming quality is a bacteria ridden open wound in their body.

>>23876464

Not really I'm just lonely and some emotional support wouldn't hurt. I have a very stressful life economically so it'll be nice to come home and sleep with someone you love holding her instead of coming back to a cold empty apartment not even going to bed and just pass out at the couch.

>>23876469
>Okay, but why are you like that?

Because I'm a disgusting piece of shit that's why. Why try to act like something I'm not, I don't act like a super bubbly confidence ball irl, I just sulk at work, do my shit and leave the second my shift ends. I'm already being myself, I've been like this since I was 11.

>>23876473
Can't post gore, so.

>>23876480
I take it you are gay, then?

>>23876482
Alright, but do you enjoy doing anything? Does anything bring you joy?

>>23876457
I'm sure that a lot of people will become more likable after losing their virginity, simply because they won't be so hung up on it.

>>23876482
>Because I'm a disgusting piece of shit that's why.

Maybe I'm being overly positive but there are probably girls that will be just as hateful as yourself that you could hate yourselves together with, just got to find them.

>>23876457
Taking away emphasis from my virginity in my normal life was probably one of the best things I'd done for myself. When my thought process changed from "I want to go on this run because then some girl might like me" to "I'm going on this run because I want to make myself better", I was actually able to make significant progress on myself. While I'm still an awkward, depressed aspie, I found that I tend to get a lot more done when I'm selfish and do things for myself rather than in the hopes that it'll make other people care about me more.

>>23876488

Used to, not anymore. I seriously just want to die these days, I don't get joy out of anything I do anymore.

>>23876488
Of course not. I'm physically attracted to women, I won't deny that. They're still utter trash.

>>23876497

Those girls can just get normal guys anyways, they wouldn't want me.

>>23876432
>You ever see an ugly guy with an attractive woman

Yeah I've seen plenty of ugly guys with an attractive girl. They're always over 6ft tall too. Must just be a coincidence. Or maybe its because having a pretty princess face isn't really a desirable trait among males. I dunno though, you're the expert.

>and there isn't much of a reason to think it's the other way around.

So you just refuse to acknowledge the fact that females have the luxury of being far more pickier than males. If you want to just pretend like dating sites don't exist then watch a fucking youtube video or something. There are tons of them that prove the same thing but in "real life"

>If you honestly believe that physical attraction is the only attraction, then you're deluding yourself.

Where did I say that? Of course it isn't the only attraction but it comes first, followed closely by money depending on what age range youre going for. No girl, not even a 1/10 dumpster whore is going to fuck a 5'5" NEET with fetal alcohol syndrome because he's "confident"

You're the expert on deluding yourself. By disregarding evolutionary and statistical facts.

>>23876497

This is possible to do without having sex.

>>23876498

I know this feel. Though I'm no longer an awkward aspie. You just have to learn by doing with socialising.

>>23875285
You're probably fat or ugly or a super mean/crazy person I'm guessing

Bonus if 2+

>>23876530
She's clearly batshit insane and delusional as fuck.

>>23876505
I'm not claiming to know more than the average person, so I'm hardly an expert, but you seem to know less, at least in that your spouting the same rhetoric as the sad sacks on /r9k/. Everyone has positive and negative qualities. Some things you can't change, like your face and height, and some things you can, like your personality. You seem like an angry, toxic person, and that might just be why your alone. If that 5'5 ugly guy tried to improve on himself, like maybe trying to get somewhere with his life rather than being a NEET, and made himself an enjoyable person to be around, then he'd have a shot. It's hardly a woman's fault for not being attracted to a person who refuses to embrace positive qualities within his reach.

>>23876530
>>23876535
None of the above. Just quiet and unsociable most of the time.

19/f

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>>23876542
oops

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>>23876537
>If that 5'5 ugly guy tried to improve on himself, like maybe trying to get somewhere with his life rather than being a NEET, and made himself an enjoyable person to be around, then he'd have a shot

>>23876427
Might need to change more than what you eat and how much you work out.

You spent one long paragraph lamenting how you knew eaxactly what women want theae days and how you had none of it then, in the same post, say you don't thonk you're a victim. If you are overweight that's on you, but it sounds like you get that. You need to get it out of your head that there are some universal standards for personality and presentation you'll never acheive.

Deep xown that's bullshit and you know it. No womam is perfect and no woman will have perfect knowledge of you or whether or not she's interested in you. There is a thousand nuances to attraction and you cannot possible miss or hit all of them.

>>23876546

You're posting a lot of late.

>>23876539
Whatever cunt.
Piss right off lmao

>>23876542
Why is being a virgin + female, a bad thing ?

>>23876556
It's not. It literally makes them more desirable.

>>23876537
After reading this I realized I've been getting baited this whole time. Well played dude. You got me.

>>23876559

This.

Female virgins of a 4chan sort of age group are just picky.

I'm not arguing this as a good or a bad thing. They are just picky. Either about their men, about their circumstances. Whatever. They're picky.

>>23876551
>You need to get it out of your head that there are some universal standards for personality and presentation you'll never acheive.

Why though? I always see women being attracted to same kind of guy, seems like a universal standard to me.

I don't think of myself as a victim, life is a roll dice and I lost simple as that. It's not anyone's fault that I'm a disgusting piece of lardy shit but me or being ugly, it's just the way it is.

>>23876559
>>23876546
I wouldnt say so, it depends, no guy wants a virgin if all they are going to do is fuck them and leave, they make a shit fuck, on the other hand its another trophy on your shelf ?

But it sort of helps if you are looking for something long term

>>23876578
Only cuckolds say this nonsense.
>h-hey guys, nonvirgin gurls aren't good for f-fucking eheheh, do I sound like I don't hate women now?
A virgin girl is definitely more desirable in any situation.

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29/m/usa
3 months and counting til Wizardry.
not kissless. I don't even think i'm particularly hideous,though my self esteem isnt great. and i am at an age where all of my friends are basicly married and bizarrely assume i got laid at somepoint, but i haven't. It honestly wasnt that big a deal for me til recently when i actually told someone and they treated me like i had told them i had extra toes and fingers or had the plague or something. Like i was just this crazy person and something was wrong with me and i needed to keep it to myself til i got it fixed.The worst is how stigmatized this is. Its no longer cute, and being honest about it has actually ruined my chances a few times.

>>23876587
Why would you want a bitch to fuck if she has 0 experience ?

>>23876553
no school :D

>>23876556
I dont

>>23876587
>A virgin girl is definitely more desirable in any situation.

What

>>23876596
>I dont
I am not sure what you mean ?

>>23876596

Makes sense. Where in the UK are you?

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>>23876594

>Sex is only for recreation and there is no evolutionary psychology at play whatsoever.

>>23876546
Is your hymen still intact?

>>2387659
>>23876598
Why would you want an impure skank who has had miles of cock?

>>23876609
What ever you virgin.

>>23876609
A lot of men love sluts. Not me, but there's a reason why an impure skank will have miles of cock, even after losing her virginity after just one.

>>23876587
It depends

To me if they've had 3 or less it doesn't matter

Above that I'm kinda ehhh would prefer someone with less partners

But 0 - 3 makes no difference, esp 0 - 1 it's essentially the same to me

It matters though if the guy(s) she fucked were virgins, if she fucked one guy and it's a chad I'd probably be worried about getting an STD

>>23876625
>a lot of nu males love sluts
Fixed
>>23876622
>what ever you virgin
RULE BREAKER
BEING MEAN TO ME ON SOC

>>23876625

Slut, in the context of male use, has two meanings.

1: Slut - Woman you'll get sex from. Probably a decent fuck, but you wouldn't date her.

2: A woman who's cheated on you.

It's what perplexes me about the whole "slut shaming" thing when 9 times out of 10, it's women who use it as a pejorative.

>>23876568
I know anon, I must have given myself away when I misused your instead of you're twice in the same post. In all seriousness though, beyond crippling physical disorders, there isn't a reason to be a NEET, and using it as an excuse for virginity isn't valid. I can go to school full time, hold down a job, and maintain a circle of friends, and I have actual diagnosed Aspergers and depression.

>>23876633
RIP under 18

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>>23876627
So essentially, as her number of partners approaches zero, she becomes increasingly more attractive to you? You made a point to imply that 0-1 partners is ESPECIALLY less significant, which leads me to believe that 0-1 is more appealing than 2 or 3, correct?

>>23876572
or mentally ill haha

>>23876649
You're definitely mentally ill, but you're picky too.

shit i fucked up

>>23876649

Yeah, your mental illness wouldn't stop every man on the planet from wanting to stick it in you, if you'll excuse the crass turn of phrase.

If you were really that bothered, you could go out and lose it now within the next 10 or 12 hours.

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>>23876633
>17
>mad that homeschooling made you a virgin

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dexter.fletcher16 skype if anyone wants to talk, I'm a virgin too. Not many people like me but that's because I'm pretty horrible towards others.

>>23876576
If that's all you're seeing, that's all you're looking at. Lose enough weight to get to a BMI below 22 and a bf% below 18 and you'll change your tune.

>>23876649
The fact that it's always the same picture is odd. Maybe it's you best pic (or just not you) but variety wouldn't hurt.

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>>23875009
>22 year old kissless virgin
>Never even had a GF
>Graduating from university next semester
I figure if I couldn't make it happen here, it aint happening.
On the upside, only about 7 more years until I'm a wizard.

>>23876707
They use the same pic and refuse to timestamp, ever. What do you think anon? Gonna give them the benefit of the doubt despite doing this shit for weeks?

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25/m/ct

>>23876601
I never said it was a bad thing

>>23876603
sshh

>>23876660
so you would sleep with anyome ti lose it?

>>23876655
Yeah I do have some preference, im just not sure if picky is right though, everyone seems picky then.

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>tfw all the real women are finally gone from this thread
Feels good lads

>24 year old kissless virgin
>meet girl from reddit (not IRL, online) on a dirty kik board
>she's sort of big but has very pretty face and just my type
>talk throughout the day on kik (smartphone messaging app) and have done this for a few months
>have talked to her twice on skype, once for 4 hours, a second time for 1.5 hours
>she actually likes how weird i am, how i'm mean and tease her a lot but then say the occasional nice thing, even my weird looking face
>we just talk shit to each other all the time and it's basically perfect
>she says she likes me and always wishes i was there
>think i'm falling in love with her because i've never had any kind of relationship like this with a girl before

so. fucking. pathetic.

21, m, virgin, only kissed

i'm a massive loser no one would be interested in

>>23876707
its my best picture

>>23876764
sure thing lol
dumbass roleplayer

>>23876766
sorry

>turned 21 3 days ago
>kissless, never had gf, never even hold hands
>socially inept, don't know how to maintain a conversation for the life of me, never pursued a girl/relationship cause idk how
>pretty ugly, maybe potentially bangable but on top of all this also fucking cock-eyed, which fucks with me on a daily basis
Feelsfuckingbad

>>23876721
Posting the same pic only baits those who haven't seen it and idiots. If it's actually her you get attention with new pics and if she actually is going for the 1/50 chance of findimg a guy she likes it seems counter-productive to post the same pic over and over.

>>23876787
Brother! Do not base your self worth off of these subhuman whores own opinions.
I am also socially inept, ugly, and can't hold a conversation. You must forsake women. They aren't even human.

>>23876793
It's definitely just a low effort troll used to garber the attention of betas.

>>23876806
*garner

>>23876764

You see my point I made in my last post though?

>>23876820
yes, i do now.

I'm now reading up about PUA, seduction and redpill.

If this actually works, I'm going to never get married and become just another player.

Going to the GYM and already am financially set. It's just a matter of practice right now, but if this really helps me score any/most women, I'm going to join the darkside.

I don't think I can fall in love with someone who required PUA to score.

Male/UK
I'm going to be 20 in a month and I haven't had actual sex yet.
Talking to girls back when I was in school was hard enough but now I don't even know how or where to meet women. It doesn't help that I have no interest in them until I get to know them either.

>>23876835
So it begs the question, what is the goal? If it's just attention, ok fine, but if you searching or just like the conversatio, why the single pic?

>>23876820
Dude regardless she's always really kind in these threads or any other thread

If it is a weird guy RPing at least they're nice so whatever I like her around

>>23876851
How lame would that life be
Yeah you get a good 5 years of fucking all the hot girls who used to reject you but the fun ends when you get herpes or charged with rape and then your life's over

>>23876864
i cant search for anything, im pretty going to be forever for life anyway. I just lik ebeing able to talk to people cause I have a hard time talking to people usually face to face.

im not really looking to date people or anything like that, maybe a freind or something like that.

As for the pic, I never really thought about it, but yeah that makes sense, I will start to post different pics then

>>23876866
I'm not having any success with women man, I'm just confirming with my own eyes if this really works before giving up.

We can't really say I tried my best if i didn't try all the options at my disposable.
I could sit here and whine about being a virgin and how people won't like me for being myself, or I could try the advice that people are dedicating entire sites for and have a large following.

I'm not worried about the herpes or charged with rape.
I'm worried about how the illusion is broken, that there's people who cracked the code on the female gender, and that through some research men are able to fuck any woman, peoples girlfriends & wives. That's depressing.

Can you really call it love, if she's only with you because you had to look up online on how to date her?
Isn't that wrong? Something is very wrong if I have to look online just to get laid, this should've been something I naturally had figured out, yet didn't.

>>23876860
To be honest it's not even about the sex, I just want someone I can care about who feels the same way about me.
I'd love to say that getting cheated on by the one girlfriend I had fucked me up, but in reality I've always just been a piece of shit

>>23876882
So the conversagion, that makes sense. Honestly in that case I don't see pics as necessary say "19/f" and you'll get the full range of personalities on here. Victim betas, too young to understand, red pills, the works!

>>23876866
I don't see it as looking a gift horse in the mouth to inquire about it. Not being nasty about it.

>>23876894
> I just want someone I can care about who feels the same way about me.

If you had to resort to PUA bs like me, and it actually got you a girlfriend. Would you be able to love her still, and believe she cares about you? KNowing that she wouldn't have been with you if you didn't learn PUA tactics.

That's where I'm stumped at, I don't know how to feel about this.

>>23876899
yeah i was doing that for sometime but eventually people would just ask for a pic anyway, and while the people may be sick on here, I still enjoy hearing from outer perspectives

>>23876905
I don't know what PUA is I'm afraid bud.

>>23876917
Pickup Artist, you know, sleazy shit, red pill, misogyny, etc.

>>23876924
>>23876905
Ah, well I'm afraid I still can't really answer because I can't see myself ever doing that shit.
What's the point of being with someone if you have to lie to do it? If I found someone I cared about again I'm sure as hell not going to insult, belittle or trick them.

>>23876924
Unfortunately, you say misogyny. But those guys will get more pussy in a week than I will in a lifetime.

Maybe we're the true misogynists, which is why we're virgins and they're not.

>>23876943
Not to mention that I prefer dominant, take charge women anyway. So even if I did try it probably wouldn't work.

>>23876943
>
have you ever tried taking out all shame and dignity to just be open with someone, literally say whatever you think and not worry before the words leave your mouth. I do that these days after being on anxiety pills and you get close to people a lot faster I find

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>>23876954

>>23876910
You are really cute and seem nice to talk to. The forever alone status has to be by choice. What would make you changevyour mind?

>>23876961
I'm already on anti-anxiety meds and I still can't do that I'm afraid.
Even if I could my problem is less opening up to someone and more finding someone I want to open up to.

>>23876967
Well you brought it up, when I was just trying to talk about their strategies. You think their strategies for sex makes them misogynists?

Or that misogynists resort to those strategies?
I'm not a misogynist, but those people get laid and I don't, and they're saying they have the answers and all the stuff and books they have do make sense, and have tons of reviewers and everything.

It has to be true.

>>23876972
I have Asperger, and a stuttering

>>23876976
Also more reason why I'm joining those communities is because the "non-misogynist" communities aren't providing me ANY answers other than hurr "be yourself" If the "good" guys aren't going to give me any help, then I'll join the darkside anyday and I'd rather be a "misogynist" than die a virgin.

I don't go around hitting women or treating them like crap, but if I do something that makes her want to take my virginity then it has to be good.

>>23876976
A) Wrong guy bro, I didn't bring it up
B) Getting laid has nothing to do with being a misogynist, being a dick to women makes you a misogynist
C) Genocide as a solution to overpopulation "makes sense" but it's still a little bit of a dick move
I'm not trying to be an asshole, but if all you want to do is cum then just jerk off. I can almost guarantee that using these strategies to get a relationship won't make you happy.

>>23876983
I also have Aspergers ;-;

You cute though, I love your hair.

>>23876975
>
I talk to people about my meds and how they help simply as a conversation builder (not started whoaa hell no). Last person I did then told me about the meds she was on, I used to take them myself, we felt closer after that. Honestly I surprise even myself when I just make an effort and ignore my huge fear of rejection and failure which so many of us have

>>23876999
*starter*

>>23876992
I need this monkey off my back honestly, I don't like being unable to achieve something other people can.

Also, like I said. These people are getting LAID who decides if they're being dicks? Maybe we're the dicks which is why women won't have sex with us, but they have sex with those guys because in their eyes those men are great.

It's all about results, and not how you interpret the methods.

I just want to lose virginity then opt out of dating scene

>>23876999
Good for you budman, I'm glad at least one anxiety-bro is succeeding.
But like I said, it's hard to use conversation builders when you don't have any women to have a conversation with.
How do you meet people dude?

>>23876967
I think what he means is that we're so objectifying of woman and cast them all in the same mold in our heads that we don't even recognize they're just as fucked up and insecure as we are and only see them as perfect vagina carrying automatons that can't be approached without being 6'2" adonis with a 7 figure job and 8 inch dick.

PUAs see women for what they are, flawed people (as we all are) with weaknesses to be exploited to feel powerful and get random pussy.

I don't really agree but I get what he's saying.

>>23877012
At that point just pay a professional then man.
We're clearly having a means/ends argument here, but personally I think that being a dick makes you a dick, regardless of why you do it or what it gets you.

>>23876983
>stuttering
hnnnnng that's so totally cute tho
I can just see you being so shy and looking away and blushing and stuttering and omg <3

>>23876983
So the implication is that if you had neither you'd be more outgoing? I guess I should be more specific in what it would take in your life, on here, whatever to want to reach out even with those, or do you even care? Maybe just passing curiousity?

>>23877014
its funny as I never go to bars or clubs (don't drink hate music that loud), but my confidence is growing so much that I can now talk to strangers in public just randomly in some circumstances. I would say either find your male friends who you know go to alot of events or get invited to things, and go along with them. Or go join a community based on something you enjoy, like idk I wanna say salsa classes but I would be deluded in thinking all teen dudes like to salsa hahaha, the key is making an effort though, really push yourself. Count to 3 and force yourself to walk up to a girl and find something relevant to not look like a dick

>>23877035
Yeah, and what does being a dick mean? Sounds subjective yet you're acting like it's an objective term.

If you have lots of people love you, and you make them happy and make their lives better. That's being a dick right?

And the good guy is the guy that makes people unhappy, no one wants to be around him, he's just undesirable. He's totally not a dick right?

>>23877056
I at least acknowledge that my world view may have been wrong and it's time to change my morals to adapt to society.

Instead of fighting endlessly saying "this is good and this is bad" I'm actually open-minded to what works and what doesn't instead of trying to dig in a mine with just a plastic fork.

We are virgins because we are WRONG.
They get laid because they are RIGHT
literally every "douchebag" gets loads of pussy, they're better people than us virgins will ever be

>>23877047
Not much of a club guy either bro, if the crowds and the noise weren't already a dealbreaker I don't really have much in common with/ interest in the crowd that does enjoy it.
Haha, my friends and I don't really get invited anywhere since we all just hang out with each other. It's strange, none of us are really losers in a traditional sense, we're just pretty solitary people.
You're right though, maybe I should get a hobby that involves leaving the house. Hell, maybe I'll even start talking to women at my gigs.
That said me saying I have a small dick on stage might be a bit of a turnoff.
Thanks buddo, I appreciate your help.

So many of us can't handle the virgin stigma, but to that I just say let the autist community buy eachother escorts, surely if it bothers you just fuck till you're a pro. However I do believe that its better to have it gifted to you by fellow autists as it feels more 'acceptable' I guess. Don't be stingy and return the escort gift though

>>23877071
>change my morals to adapt to society.
Maybe society is shit
Look at how many people are unhappy with their marriage and end up divorced
Look at how people hate their gf/bf and how everyone cheats on everyone
Do you really want that garbage

>>23877056
>>23877071
A) Lying to and insulting people doesn't make their lives better
B) If you make people unhappy then there's a chance you're just a dick, virgin or not
C) Hitler was successful for a time, did that make him "right"?
Again, not to be an asshole but your logic is pretty fucked bro.
I don't get laid because I don't talk to women, not because I'm doing something inherently "wrong". The fact that you acknowledge PUA shit as the darkside means that deep down you know it's not a decent thing to do. Don't lump all virgins in with yourself.
Good luck with it though man, let us know how it goes and how you feel about it after you've tried it.

>>23877082
No worries buddy, lol a small dick is a small problem as I'm pretty sure if you have she's seen it she's already too naked to turn back now! If you're from London btw maybe i'll try and help you find someone before 20 idk i'm not Jesus, however I have found confidence as I have become much more comfortable with myself. I'm 19 like you, a virgin too and its doesn't way me down anymore, its just never on my mind. Maybe i'm a wizard in the making who knows. My kik is 24Odion btw, gonna sleep now night virgins!! lets not sweat it lads!

yikes

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>>23877131
>she's already too naked to turn back now!
do I have news for you

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I'm an 18M in USA. I really just hate everyone. I think I have depression (self diagnosed of course!) and even if I did want to find a friend/GF I'm so fucking uninteresting there's literally no reason to enjoy my presence especially because I'm pretty ugly. I haven't touched the opposite gender in probably months and I've never kissed a girl. I've had countless opportunities but I'm just a pussy. I'm 6'1" and naturally muscular but never work out or anything so I'm fat.

I really just want to kill myself because life is not worth living and I stooped so low I'm talking about it on 4chan. I have no hope for my future and can't find enjoyment in anything.

I'm 24 years old and a kissless virgin, never been in a relationship, never even been close to asking a girl out.

My problem has just been that I've basically never had friends. I think the last time I had friends was in middle school. I'm an only child, I'm pretty weird and have ADD. I was basically like the class clown. I would have acquaintances in high school but not really any friends, and I am pretty ugly (get rated 3-4/10 on soc/internet with a very strange looking, uneven face), also short and extremely skinny.

The years of friendlessness as high school went on made me increasingly cynical, sarcastic, and bitter. While I was still like a "class clown", still no friends. Never went to dances, prom, graduation parties, hung out

Got to college and while I lived in a dorm and apartment and made friends with my roommates (who would pity invite me places), basically I would just go to class, not really talk much, and come home.

Basically the friendlessness is what makes me not bother with anything. I have no friends so I'm a complete shut-in even though I live in one of the most beautiful places in the world (the Bay Area, at home wtih mommy and daddy). No friends = not getting out to do anything = not meeting girls

I'm going to die a virgin (likely suicide) because at this point it will never happen

>>23875372
just like a varied diet and exercise is not necessary, but they do greatly improve your life all the same, sex is in that category, if you consider it necessary or not depend on where you are in life I guess though choosing away something that primal would put you in a very peculiar position, how did you manage to end up there in the modern world?

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>>23875414
>people have only been having premarital sex for less than a century

>>23875490
you must have done some very selective reading, try to challenge your own view, consider it a good way to prove you are right, if you truly believe you are.

Try finding what you don't want to find, something that would contradict your previous finds, it is not hard, but somehow you limit yourself to the 60's and countries like pakistan.

Humans have been around for a long time, why is the early 1900's the norm to you? Make absolutely no sense.

>>23877228
i have a ton in common with you anon, 26. No ADD tho. Still sucks. I went to the wrong college and couldn't fit in, but needed the degree. Now work at a small company, 15 women and two men, not including me. No chance. I don't trust the internet dating bullshit that my generation is obsessed with anyway. Don't think I'll ever get fucked. Really depressing.

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26/m/WI

I'm a virgin by choice. I just don't feel the need or desire to have sex or a companion. I like myself and what I got going on. Having sex would only complicate things.

Maybe I'm asexual, whatever that is.

>>23875285
Post face

>>23877228
>>23877568
Ditto. 25 y/o.
When i was in school it was easy to preoccupy myself and not be bothered by it. But those days are gone, can't go a day without getting upset. Getting bitter and sad which is just making things worse. Getting back into drugs, have nothing else to do on the weekends.

>>23877568
>>23877228
>>23877918
It's a mystery why you guys are still virgins. Oh wait nevermind. You're just pathetic.

Yeah I'm a virgin too but I don't think about it like I think about my next meal. Get a fucking life and learn to like yourself. No chick would want to fuck some whiny little bitch.

31 m virgin los angeles
white 5,7 130lb
kik: zsasza
skype: zsaszaz

@straight girls
why?

Its so easy for you to get laid, just pick someone and 9 times out of 10 they'll do it.

>>23877933
Like I was saying earlier it's a vvictim complex. Letting the world define you by the teagedy. It's bullshit.

20 m U.S.
Kissless virgin, had a GF but it was a long-distance thing. Just not interested in having sex without a serious relationship first.

>>23875009

20/M/Texas

Any femanons from TX?

>>23877984
Because not everyone wants to lose their virginity just for the sake of losing it?

I'd like to not be a virgin but I wouldn't just take any girl who was average looking. I want someone I like

>>23878037
Well you're a fucking cunt, I would kill for "just" an average girl
Only fat drug addicts acknowledge I exist
And I'm going to throw it away on one because that's my only option

>25
>girls approach me all the time
>never been in a relationship
>so I just avoid them before I embarrass myself
>repeat till I die alone

20/m/FL

Never been in a relationship, kissless. Had self-esteem issues, and still got some remnants left. Also, I'm starting to feel convinced girls aren't attracted to me, which could be the self-esteem problems feeding itself, but I don't really know at this point.

>>23875562
no, i crave intimacy though. i feel quite lonely a lot of the time. i just want someone to connect with.

>>23875648
east midlands

>>23875723
oh jeeze i had my first kiss this year and it was just sprung on me and i wasn't prepared and i don't know how to kiss and i just felt so embarrassed and awkward that i couldn't let him do it again

>>23878046
You need to settle the fuck down friend.

I didn't say I have like super high standards or something. I'm saying that I wouldn't fuck some girl I don't have any connection to at all just so I could say I've lost my virginity.

>>23878082
>sprung on me and i wasn't prepared

This is why waiting is honestly fine. I'm a virgin but I did have a girlfriend. LDR and we did meet for a week (long story why we didn't have sex, it ends with me screwing everything up) after a year.

The first time we kissed was after we met at the airport and had a big, long hug, took a cab, talked a little, got settled in our hotel then I put my arms around her, she blushed, I probably did too.

We were both smiling like idiots just enjoying the feeling of each other's warmth, then she closed her eyes, we leaned in slowly and had a long, lovely and perfect kiss.

It was both of our first and truly I can't think of many more perfect moments in my life. That's why waiting is a good idea, that's why developing that closeness and that bond before diving in is completely worth it.

I can only imagine sex to be that kiss x10 so I don't want to just go out a fuck some slag, attractive or not.

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>>23878156
That sounds so special and nice and I'm just sad that I probably won't experience something similar

>>23878226
Fucking same...

Friend I have feelings for told me about her boyfriend and her losing their virginity together. How "amazing" and "special" and "magical" it was. I just cried :')

>>23876733
>so you would sleep with anyome ti lose it?

No, I personally wouldn't. But that's not what's being argued here. My point is, you can't have your cake and eat it, too. If you want to whinge about being a virgin, that's fine, but you're going to accept that if the situation were that bad, you could easily do something about it.

I was so close to losing my virginity, the only issue? It was at school in 10th grade... And a teacher walked right around the corner of the building just as I had my girlfriend up against the wall... We we're both equally as disappointed. It was really hot too...

36/M/UK
I just never seem to have the time. I worked hard through uni to get a good degree and masters, I then went straight to a job with long hours and by the time I get to the weekend I just sort of crash. I also don't have a strong sex drive, and so it hasn't been a priority, I would like someone to spend romantic time with.

>>23878294

Could you not have just picked up where you left off later on?

>>23878226

The thing about these threads is that I'd really like to do an extended speed dating with every girl who comes on here. Chat for a bit, maybe have a cup of tea if local and see if we click. I don't want to exchange v-cards for the sake of doing it, I do want it to be with someone I care about and who cares about me, that it mean a lot to both of us.

Contact fagging is frowned upon and I know why, but I'm capable of parting ways and moving on if there's nothing there. Heaven forbid we all just be mature about it.

We tried, but then her mother found out about the occurrence through our texts, and her mother was extremely christian, so I basically was cut off from her outside of school, and forced to keep our relationship in school, until her mother moved her to a different school.

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Discord for friendly virgins, pic related:
https://discord.gg/0Xc4Gfg3ZvHHr6Zc

>>23878371

I absolutely agree with your sentiment. If there was a dating website for virgins only I would sign up instantly. Sadly there's no such thing.
I've had some amazing conversation with women in these threads, but it never gets the chance to develop into anything.

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>>23878389
>>23878389

Fair shout.

Sorry if didn't work out for you, m80.

>>23878406

Dating site unnecessary, just these threads. I remember there were "virgin meetup" threads for a while that just basically functioned like these did indicating everyone just being too scared, cautious or simply unwilling to reach out.

Important to remember that some of the girls on here really are crazy or just here for attention, but all the more reason to get to know everyone.

>>23878394

And sometimes they're fishing, you just never know!

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>mfw her mother says "bring the white boy"

>>23878423

I remember the meetup threads. I talked with two women off there through emails, but neither wanted to actually build anything or meet up.
I wouldn't mind finding a girlfriend on here personally, I don't have double standards. Finding a woman that feels the same way is just difficult if not impossible.

Honestly, if there was another virgin meetup thread, I might just be willing to try it, sounds fun, and if I can meet a girl, that'd be great, because frankly, bars aint my thing for a few reasons, and if I go to a coffee shop, Im not looking to socialize, Im looking to get the morning jolt. So if there is a thread like that, point me that-a-way... :D

>>23878468
I might too, should just start one, doubt one exists now

Can I join in? I haven't been laid in 7 years. Does that count? Am I born again virgin?

26/m/netherlands.

KV and I turn 27 next week.

>>23878547

Dispereert niet. You'll get your chance!