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what is hardest engineering degree?

i would personally say electrical
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depends on the school
electrical in most southern schools is a joke, mechanical or chemical are harder
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>>8873569
science
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Dunno about degree but this is the hardest course

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_therapy
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>>8873608
How do you know if EE is a joke at a particular college or university?
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nuclear
specifically fusion
a daily battle with the fucking sadistic asshole that is plasma fluid dynamics
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>>8873569
civil
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>engineering
>hard
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>>8873569
Doubt EE is the most difficult. I have a Computer Engineering degree, which is mostly EE with some CS classes in place of power systems. I didn't find EE to be very difficult. Aerospace or Nuclear would be my guesses for most difficult with Chemical coming in next. Civil would be my vote for the easiest.
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>>8873569
I'd say that EE is the hardest on *average*, followed by ME. But the hardest ME degrees are more difficult than the hardest EE degrees.
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>>8873981
Nah, environmental
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i dont know but materials is the best
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>>8873926
When they don't have enough math classes to bring you to suicide
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>>8873987

hey look, an edgy bio kid
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EE isn't any harder than CS. Probably chemical engineering is the hardest.
(also btw EE students write the shittiest code you could ever imagine, which is funny because they all end up as web developers making average salaries when they can't find a job in their field (surprise!))
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>>8873569
Going objectivly its either nuclear or Chem.
>t. phd in nuclear engineering
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>>8874228

"The hardest branch of engineering is the one I have a degree in."

>kek
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>>8874219
>EE isn't any harder than CS

Keep lying to yourself >>>/g/hetto boy.
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>>8873569
EE is usually considered harder simply by the credit hours. But that's not a good metric. The hardest is the one you are least interested in yet challenged by. Because: fuck it.
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>>8873569
Where my materials at?
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EE or chem
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I agree with >>8874240

Most people in my chemical eng classes who say it's hard are also the same people who don't enjoy chemistry at all.
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Any that involve thermo. Seriously, fuck thermo
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Social Engineering
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>>8874228
>PhD in Engineering
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>>8874628
ME then?
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No aero?
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>>8874985
This along with nuclear
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>>8874985
Aero is literally a special snowflake ME
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>>8874631
ayy lmao
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>>8873569
Physics engineering maybe?
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SoftwareEng
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>>8875046
If your name is pajeet maybe
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Well let me give all of you the right answer (once again).
It is Engineering Physics.
You're welcome.
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>>8874219
Your post kinda reminds me of Trump's tweets
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>>8875435
lol

it's funny to think that in 100 years, trump's tweets will probably be studied by schoolchildren
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Engineering Physics or Materials Engineering
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>>8873569
AeRoSpAcE
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>>8873569
NukeE or ChemE is the hardest.
If you aren't very good at math then EE is the hardest. Mech E and its subfields (AeroE and the like) are next, then CivE and its subfields, then Industrial/Systems Engineering. CE and by extension CS depends on the uni. Fields other than the ones I listed are rare and memes, Industrial/systems is almost a meme.
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>>8874006
As an EE taking CE courses, at my uni the CE and EE programs are rather intertwined (as I would imagine it is for most universities). That being said, I would say there is more of a gap between programs than just power systems being replaced with CS. That being said I also agree that its not the most difficult, but it is up there.
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>>8875557
To make sure some autist doesn't misunderstand, my post implies in order of difficultly
EE(bad at math)>ChemE+subfields=NukeE>EE(good at math)>MechE+subfields>CivE+subfields>Industrial/SystemsE
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Depends on the school but generally Chemical Engineering is very hard although some programs can be quite weak. Mechanical and electrical usually rank up next. Aerospace isn't that different than mechanical so I'd put them at about the same. From here it's kind of whatever with civil and environmental at the bottom.

I'm in EE and the phd's at my school are pretty firmly in the belief that chemical is the hardest by far.

Specialized stuff like nuclear is hard to place, but it's definitely up there. My school has a nuclear undergrad degree, but it's through the EE department with a specialization in nuclear that flows naturally into a master's or phd program. And I'm not sure it's very useful without. Basically a power systems engineer with a choice in a few different tracks of additional nuclear classes and an additional set of nuclear physics courses (for engineers) to prep you for grad school.

We're a big ECE/medical school with a lot of specializations and that's where the difficulty really lies as some EE's who specialize in controls are taking both real and complex analysis and others in easier specializations can coast by on just their calc sequence.
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>>8875643
>EE students not doing complex analysis
>EE not being able to process signals
What is this meme?
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my sister is doing mecheng and she seems to be having an alright time of it
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>>8874006
Sounds like they don't make CE take EMF or DSP at your school tbqh
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>>8874086
lol, i graduated from EE and i hardly ever use anything beyond the four operations at work
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>>8874628
Luckily I had the option if taking dynamics or thermodynamics. I went with dynamics. Our professor was out of town for a week on a hunting trip so the thermodynamics professor lectured those classes in his place. Made me sure I made the correct choice. Dr. Maples was crazy.
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>>8873569
Audio
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Is robotics a meme?
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>>8877230
And do companies even use PLCs? I never heard of them before? Am I getting ripped off?
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>>8877234
>And do companies even use PLCs?
there are knuckle dragging electricians making 90k a year of that shit son.
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>>8877237
I was just paranoid cuz it seems nobody even knows what they are or heard of ladder logic. Maybe I just don't talk to the right people. Everyone Ik is in CS or doing IT stuff. They are fun to program though.
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>>8873569
diamonds is the hardest degree
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>>8873569
BME
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>>8874681
still more education than you have autist
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>>8873981
a structural civil is pretty hard, anyone disagreeing has no idea how many specific materials classes are required, they have additional requirements beyond what the requirements for P.E. are, to get structures certs and stamps just to do your job... and then if you plan to work in a seismic zone or hurricane zone there are even further requirements, it's insane and no other engineer has a more difficult path. It borders on what a MD has to do.
>>8873987
the fact that it requires you to not be an autist and have verbal communication skills is why you would never be able to have success as an engineer. you hate chad engineer so hard don't you?
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>>8877234
>>8877237
My boss doesn't have a degree and makes around 70k PLC programming. Was originally an electrician.

That second semester looks like good job-oriented credits. You should see if you can buy an old PLC off ebay (Siemens or Allen Bradley are the big ones) and try to pirate the required software and program some relays to flash lights on and off on a 24VDC line. That would impress companies if you did that while in college.

It would also introduce you to the hell that is PLC programming. Oh it sounds simple; flick lights on and off. You just need to trudge through acres of siemens manuals to try and find the correct information, and have to deal with the horrible UI and functions involved in PLC proprietary code.
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>>8873569
Imo, it's probably microengineering. Because you need mechanical and electrical engineering
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>>8877305
engineering, not molecular biology
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Going for EE do I need to learn how to program because i suck dick at coding
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>>8874228
Like what does a nuke engineer do that any physicist couldn't? Do you eyeball control rod position?
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>>8875845
The current year aka "why teach shit they'll do with computer anyways"
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>>8877670
you will fail
matlab will be used in all your courses
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>>8877234
I use PLCs, I have a Computer Engineering degree. i'm better of you
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The hardest part about engineering is coming out to your parents
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>>8877670

matlab is super easy tho so don't worry too much
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>>8877696
I don't believe a physics major is taught the specific physics NukeEs need to use unless they sought the classes out.

You also lack design classes and othwr things that teach you how to actually be an engineer.
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>>8877705
>matlab
I already know C.
Will I be ready?
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>>8873569

>engineering

>hard


just stop, you're the plumber of mathematics.
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>>8877670
Pretty much all engineers are expected to code these days.
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>>8877820

it's a career choice you fucking faggot
any field is swarmed with average people
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>>8873569
Software
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Well, here in Brazil EE is known to be the hardest of them all (I'm not studying engineering though). EE students are also known to be the most autistic retards with superhuman resistance to alcohol.

For example, in USP (best college in Brazil) there was a competition on the campus. There were 17 spots on the campus with very strong drinks in each one and each competitor should run to each one, drink the whole glass (something around 30~35% alcohol) and run to the next one. If he vomited, he should go back to the last one and drink again the last drink, then keep going.

Only one person was able to complete this, and it was a EE undergrad.

They're also famous for making people enter in alcoholic coma for too much drinking (the EE students make the freshmen follow them in the drinking game, and they end up in the hospital) and every year someone dies of overdose.
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>>8878884
Just an example:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/student-dies-after-downing-25-5342398
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>>8877670
C was the main language I've used so far 3.5 years in. I don't know about your uni, but there are some specializations that have practically no coding (EM Fields/Optics here) so you can survive without having to code as much.
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>>8874628
Never understood the thermodynamics meme, not particulary interested in the subject but it was a breeze for me oO
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>>8877670
yes
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>>8877811
Yeah. Unless you have to take some dipshit intro to programming for engineers in matlab where they pretend matlab is a useful general purpose language (like at my school) then everything you write will be about simulation and numerical computation, and not programming
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EE, 4 year curriculum:

http://catalog.unr.edu/preview_program.php?catoid=13&poid=5977&returnto=3442
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>>8877234
company i interned with deals with PLC's/HMI.. i'm not really sure if it's outdated technology, but to me it seems pretty good for automated shit/ factory assembly lines
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aerospace at georgia tech FUCK
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Earth systems
Dunno about degrees but I imagine.
As a practice in general it's the hardest, no one can even do it
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>>8879229
Nuke, 4 year curriculum:
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>>8874006
Aero here, it's really just a bit of everything with a bit more thermodynamics: biomed and nuclear are probably the toughest...
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Here in Belgium the meme is that Civil E is by far the hardest because of the sheer amount of mathematics in the first two year. After that you specialize into civil Chem E for example.
The meme is true here. I found Chem E to be easy, didn't struggle
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>>8880321
Belgian here, "burgerlijk ingenieur" does not translate to "Civil engineer". "Burgerlijk ingenieur" is a protected engineering title exclusive to Belgium.

There is no such thing as "Civil Chem E" its just ChemE

Civil engineering translates to "bouwkunde"
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>>8879624
What a meme
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>>8880342
OK then it makes sense.
You do have burgerlijk ingenieur specialized into chemistry though, and others.
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Rate my EE curriculum

https://advising.engineering.osu.edu/sites/advising.engineering.osu.edu/files/uploads/CurriculumSheets/Majors/2016-2017/ece_ees_curriculum_sheet_2016-2017.pdf
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Meme course? Thoughts
http://courses.dkit.ie/index.cfm/page/course/courseId/739
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>>8880342
Burgie here, can confirm.
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>>8881124
Ugent? Will start next year, what can i expect? Will do EE
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>>8881135
UGent, yes.
>what can i expect?
Expect to get fucked in the ass by math followed by more math. In highschool i got 80's in math with literally zero effort, but i really broke my teeth on the first semester.
Complex numbers weren't really taught in depth in highschool so i suggest you study that a little, especially if you're not familiar with the exponential notation.
Also don't feel bad if you fail calculus I, because a lot of student fail that course (including me). Don't feel depressed if you fuck up your first semester and learn from your mistakes.
And pls don't be the guy that "let's try this, i heard it pays well", because if you aren't motivated you will fail.

>Will do EE
Don't expect to see anything remotely to do with circuits untill the 4th semester. I did "werktuigkunde" myself so i don't really know a lot about their curriculum
But if you survived the first year the chances are very high you'll graduate. The Master was easy compared to the bachelor
Feel free to ask if you have more questions
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>>8875557


IE may be a joke in American unis, in my country it's way harder.

I would say:

Hard:
>Nuclear Eng

Medium:
>Mech
>Chem
>EE

Easy
>Industrial
>Systems
>Civil
I'm IE, but if i want to i can take around 7 extra classes and get a Mech eng degree, since in my uni we have a lot of similar classes with mech eng, like termo, fluid mechanics, statics, etc.


Mech and Nuclear are way more interesting to me than IE, but I picked IE because i would get more money, and plan on getting a Mech Eng degree as a hobbie some day (since it's only a few technical classes)
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>>8881174
What about statistics? I heard that one was the hardest.

Currently reviewing precalculus, I'll start on Calculus soon.
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>>8878884
>EE students are also known to be the most autistic retards with superhuman resistance to alcohol

oddly accurate
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>>8877230
>>8877234
I'm an IE and i do a lot of PLC programming as a side job, LADDER sucks tho.
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>>8881206
>What about statistics? I heard that one was the hardest.
lel no, that was one of the easier ones. Just prepare your anus for Analyse I, II and Hennie De Schepper fucking you over with a huge strapon
>prove that 1>0
>special snowflake bullshit with integrals
>fourier series being a NIGGER
>le epsilon delta proofs
Also in my year we were allowed to do all calculations with symbolic software. I heard they changed that so actually being able to integrate a function might be useful

https://vtk.ugent.be/wiki/Eerste_bachelor_burgerlijk_ingenieur
This might be useful for you to get an idea to what is important and what is not. You'll get an exam for "wiskundige basistechniek" (aka shit you should already know) after a mere three weeks, so i suggest you focus on that.
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>>8873569
Probably nuclear
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>>8881262
>https://vtk.ugent.be/wiki/Eerste_bachelor_burgerlijk_ingenieur
thanks man. this will help a lot
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>>8881276
Glad i could help. I hope you'll succeed in becoming the ir. master race
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I was doing ChemEng and found it relatively easy but also very boring. Now I'm in computer engineering and it's still just as easy but a lot more interesting.
Anyone saying naming either of these is a meme.

Judging from the people I share classes with, EE guys seem like they have a lot more work, and Mechanical engineering has a reputation at my uni to have some of the hardest classes to pass, so I guess those. Then maybe aerospace or nuclear (though the former is just
specialized ME, really), depending on your school.

Also, at my uni, I always see the Civ/Industrial/Bio/environmental guys drinking together. Every. Fucking. Day.

I guess this means those last 3 are the easiest.
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>>8881480
>I guess this means those last 3 are the easiest.
they are
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>>8880342
>>8880321

manneke, manneke,

Belgium is us as well.
On our side though, all engineering is a meme, and basically just a glorified applied maths degree. We have tons of hard math, but very little actual engineering skills are taught until the last year or so. For example, I'm in my second year, and about half of my class doesn't know how to code...
The people who do Civ Eng are just people who like math and want to have a piece of paper that can boost their chances of getting a job...
It's why every successful person from this school does an erasmus or finishes their studies abroad learning to apply all the stuff they learned.

Classes are good though, I just don't feel like I'm learning to be an engineer. In this sense, Civ eng in belgium is the hardest because of the very low profitability for the effort you put in.
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>>8881517
Do you mean l'ingénieur civil? Don't translate that shit literally to english because shit is confusing

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ing%C3%A9nieur_civil#En_Belgique
To be extra clear
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>>8881547
Yes. What would our ingé civil be in other countries then?

>tfw I just realised today that in other countries a civil engineer can only be said of a guy who makes big buildings.
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>>8881563
>tfw I just realised today that in other countries a civil engineer can only be said of a guy who makes big buildings.
That's what i meant. see >>8880342

>What would our ingé civil be in other countries then
It does not exist in other countries. I my case i just use Master of Science in Electromechanical Engineering, as that's what it reads on that precious little paper
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chem for undergrad, EE for grad school

honorable mention to structural for having tons of post-degree bullshit to go through before you can legally call yourself one, kinda like med school or law school in that regard
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Nuclear, because you gotta be specialized, but remain well-rounded enough to tackle anything.
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>>8873981
dude gravity lmao
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Sanitation engineering
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>>8877230
>Is robotics a meme?
A degree in it is. As a field of study, not at all. Don't expect to get payed to make Gundams, just do it in your spare time. University is about making money.
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>>8881195
IE isn't a joke its just not as math intensive as the other ones, and math is almost always the hard part.

Personally IE is my favorite tied with MechE.
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