a spaceblimp is better then a spacecraft

>>8503663
that was terrible goes wrong cause i embedded wrong-anyway it was my first try-how can i delete

What the fuck?

Most people would consider basic English literacy a prerequisite for posting here.

>>8503663
>a spaceblimp is better then a spacecraft
Error: You must wait longer before posting a new thread.

how long is wait

>>8503669
yes come to germany and talk u fucking language lets see what they say scum

>>8503678
>lets see what they say scum
That you're a laughable crank?

>>8503689
what? can u usa a dativ or accusativ please-i cannot understand lol

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What in the fuck is happening? Is this thread even real?

>>8503663
What the fuck?

>>>/diy/ has a guy who is building a blimp.

>>8503750
yes real like misde

nwgg.de

or
www.nwgg.de

>>8503663
things that getting wrong in my first ever thread
i embedded first video wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDeyAFlp1ac

and second-the name of my page side is
nwgg.de

thnk u for u attention

>>8503766
>i embedded first video wrong
That is not the issue here.

You've completely failed to explain what you're talking about. There's something about blimps and the Whitehouse and Germany, and that's all I can figure out.
You've posted a link to something that might be your website, but it makes even less sense than your posts here.

>>8503809
bullshit
maybe it is better i public it in russian because u have get no man in space the past 5 years and the next 5 years u get nobody into fucking space

this side-my side-is about a blimp pulled into space by a satellite-and that bring u to moon or mars in the next fucking 2 years

oh my god that is to complicated for u-for sure it is because u dont get one motherfucker into space for 10 years-that is 2011 to 2021

if u dont fucking care about then why did u read that-why u dont do other things like as example not building a fucking rocket with 2 thousands tons on fuel and make fire on the ground and set yourself on the top

this here-my side -shows u how to come into fucking space without a fucking suicide rocket

i f i w r i t e t o o f a s t f o r y o u p l e a s e t e l l m e

thank you

>>8503846
o on and laugh at me. Like I give a fuck. You think I'm upset that you think this is comical? If I'm able to provide some sort of levity to the sad existence you call a life, then so be it.

But maybe instead of laughing you should learn. Try to model your own meager existence off of my own, and you could possibly achieve some of the greatness that I espouse. Maybe you'll stop eating the cum from your girlfriend's pussy after Jamal fucked her for a few hours, and you'll be the one cumming in your girlfriend and Jamal.

Maybe you'll get out of your dead-end job and actually go back to school. Maybe you'll join the military and become an officer after a few years.

Sure, you may never come close to my plane of existence, but you might be able to get at least a taste. I can assure you it will taste better than Jamal's semen.

>>8503846
I can barely understand you.

>u have get no man in space the past 5 years and the next 5 years u get nobody into fucking space
I'm in Australia. We've never sent anyone to space, and our single launch to orbit was actually British.

>a blimp pulled into space by a satellite
That's completely retarded.
Have you even CONSIDERED what the relative velocity would be, or how much tensile strength the cable would require?
And what's stopping the momentum exchange from dropping the satellite out of orbit anyway? If it's got rockets, you may as well have put them on the payload.

>oh my god that is to complicated for u
It's not "to complex", it just sounds pointless and infeasible.

>this here-my side -shows u how to come into fucking space without a fucking suicide rocket
How is a "suicide slingshot" better than a "suicide rocket"?
You've failed to list a single reason why your idea is better than what we have.


Also, for fucks sake: "u" is not a word, and the English language has punctuation other than "-".

>>8503892
it was not my fucking idea to reach space with a satelite it was the idea of a fucking NASA engineer in fucking 1974

as u can see on the fucking video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcZNCYF3o6U

the idea of making it with a blimp is from and yes i know how difficult it is and how much speed u need
but u can get it if u really want-but u must try try and try try andtry and u will succeed at least

if u wanna make suicide u can make it the old fucking way but u gonna die with rockets or space shuttle-like 14 US hero did-and they are not the only one no
by not even 10 thousand humans in space there are more then 100 dead as a dodo-ground staff die included
if 10 thousand start in new york but there are 100 dead at the road it is not a space trip it is a lemmings trip

in my case the rocket is 500meters or 1500 yards or whatever away from the pilot and it brings u to a speed of16.000km a hour or 10 thousand miles a hour with 600 kg fuel or 120 barrel and u get 80 km high or 50 miles high and that is high enough and fast enough

if that is to easy for u to understand then i can tell u that the last fucking visitor on my page was from Brisbane at Fri Jan 1, 2016 at 05:21:03

and for every other they can visit my side-i have there pictures and videos and text from guys from the university and oll the other shit that u make understand a little bit more and then u was not talking bullshit to me

and yes i have better things to do like this here-and i even have better things to do then flying into space

so look for a job or a female or what ever u need for not wasting my time with talking bullshit to from things that u have no fucking idea what it is and stop telling people shit about my fucking side because some people have a fucking brain and u fucking comments hurt people with a fucking brain

>>8503887
i was soldier in thze german army -a apc warrior ion the 313 tank grenadier bataillon 313 1 company recon platoon at varel
i was trying to be officer in the german army and fly helicopter but they say no u can get a tank and i say no fuck of and the german army say no u fuck off and so i was driving motor bike in the fucking army

i dont know what problems u to fuck have with bitches and i have no fucking idea what that have to with this fucking thread here

but as i have told u and the other gays that this here is about reaching space with a fucking blimp pulled by a 1200 pound rocket and then lifted into space
and yes i can program a rocket that kind to hit a target in 3500 miles distance-that is easy to me

so why to fuck i get a permission to do
because A in the second gulf war 1991-and yes it was the second because the first was iran vs iraq-in the second gulf war at operation desert storm i was on patrol just fucking 25 miles by secret underground millitary base and guess what-it was snow time but in the case that one of the iraq garde can reach us-in the fucking snow
and 15 miles from my position was a factory for guided anti tank rockets called milan
and now as i was writing there is a secret underground millitary hospital under me and u can see the pic from inside in the fucking internet
and now i have better things to do then this fucking bullshit to read that u are fucking writing because some people have a live and parents and they are not useless scum

for everybody alse-u can find all infos on the link and in the fucking internet

thats it

Hello,

http://www.jpaerospace.com/

Good luck.

>>8504037
come on
i know jp aerospace and hi how u doing
i know the problems u have and i know how difficult it is what u was trying
so god luck to u
and i know the videos on youtube u have make and i love then all

bg
willen

Come back when you properly learn to communicate.

>>8504013
>it was not my fucking idea to reach space with a satelite it was the idea of a fucking NASA engineer in fucking 1974
That video is depicting something very different to what you are describing, and it still strikes me as a fairly pointless task. The tether system can't provide any momentum it doesn't already have, and accelerating the payload directly is still far simpler and more effective than throwing it via a different craft.

>the idea of making it with a blimp is from and yes i know how difficult it is and how much speed u need
Then you'd know what you're describing is ridiculous. you can't grab something with a 100km long cable moving at 8km/s and expect not to break it. The forces involved would be absurd.

>but u can get it if u really want-but u must try try and try try andtry and u will succeed at least
That's not how the real world works. Physics doesn't change if you really want something.

>if u wanna make suicide u can make it the old fucking way but u gonna die with rockets or space shuttle-like 14 US hero did-and they are not the only one no
You've not provided any reason to think that what you're describing would be safer. If anything, the violent acceleration invoked would be MORE dangerous than the drawn-out acceleration of a conventional launch vehicle.

>in my case the rocket is 500meters or 1500 yards or whatever away from the pilot and it brings u to a speed of16.000km a hour or 10 thousand miles a hour with 600 kg fuel or 120 barrel and u get 80 km high or 50 miles high and that is high enough and fast enough
That doesn't sound possible.

>so look for a job or a female or what ever u need for not wasting my time with talking bullshit to from things that u have no fucking idea what it is and stop telling people shit about my fucking side because some people have a fucking brain and u fucking comments hurt people with a fucking brain
You haven't tried to justify a single part of your idea. How is that my fault?

>>8504037
and hey with Trump u maybe get the money u need-i think he know the internet and he is clever enough and smart enough in not writing emails because we all was knowing that one day they are go public
and maybe if u really want to make america great again they need a canadian like jp and not a folk that waste 500 billions in 50 years and then say wrong way

i think a lot of people told u how to make and so do i- i think u blimp must be flat like a lamborghini and 300 yards long if u wanna fly that speed-but hey i think u get 1 thousands ideas from people who say how to do it so lets put my idea under plan B

however good luck

by the way if Trump find out how cheap u and my project are to test out if they work or not he will be really pissed off

>>8504054
i did try out if it work but it was in a scale of 1 to 100 with ballon-yes kids ballon-and yes it work-and yes i have a video of it

ok i cannot find it now-but it is there somewhere in the internet-a kids ballon spaceblimp used new yaers rockets and it work in a scale of 1 to 100-its a great fun for me

i think u can test it all out in a scale of 1 to 100 just to see if there are mistakes and it is fun

for the real space trip u need 30 million euro and 200 men and 2 years and u need the fucking satelite with the cable from the NASA-but they will love to help u

and why it is safer is easy-because u are not close to the fuel and that makes it safer the distance to something that can expolde makes it safer

is it difficult and dangerous-for sure it is-but u not gonna get burned

dangerous is to be pulled from a satelite with a speed different fom maybe 2000 miles per hour at a speed however of 15 thousand miles per hour every thing is dangerous if u are sitting in 2 tons aluminium can that are only so thicklike a flat cigarette

but there not the fuel nearby and that makes u safer

it is also dangerous to missed the satellite and fall back to earth with a speed of 13 thousand kilometer a hour like the austrian gay did with his ballon

the points of what else is dangerous are endless and u must trust a lot of people that they dont kill u by mistake

but guess what-staying on this planet is also not safe and one day u die and one day this planet will crash into something with the speed of 100 thousand kilometer per hour because that is the speed of this iron ball that we call earth by flying around the open fusion reactor that we call sun

>>8504044
can u translate that in german please because i dont understand

>>8504092

No, this is an English speaking forum.

>>8504094
really
and why can u read it all over the planet

only in star trek everybody in the universe can talk english

and guess what-here in germany everybody in sta trek is talking german

>>8504100

I don't care where you're from or in what language you watch Stark Trek. If you're unable to functionally use English then that says a lot about your intelligence.

>>8504111
i know what u are talking about and i call it

honky tonk rules

and guess what-i have a fucking video to it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t36_182tEv8

and now kids i must travel to my parents for dinner

>>8504127

No you don't know what I'm talking about which further proves you're a fucking idiot.

>and now kids i must travel to my parents for dinner

The irony is lost on you I guess.

>>8504090
>i did try out if it work but it was in a scale of 1 to 100 with ballon-yes kids ballon-and yes it work-and yes i have a video of it
That's not a scale model. You've ignored all the challenges, and mucked about with a balloon.
Physics exists. I suggest you try actually using it.

>i think u can test it all out in a scale of 1 to 100 just to see if there are mistakes and it is fun
Where did you get the kilometre-long cable?
How did you throw the balloon at 290km/h?
And what reason do you have for thinking a 1/100th scale model would actually be informative?

>is it difficult and dangerous-for sure it is-but u not gonna get burned
There are a lot of other ways to die.
The high-speed cable experiencing outrageous forces seems like the obvious one.

>>8503663
good thread
bump

>>8504174
in a scale of 1 to 100 i dont need 290 km i need just 2,9 km and i used fucking kids ballon and fucking new years rocket and i get 2,9 meters high- so as i can see with something really blimp like ballon and a rocket with real fuel i think getting 2,9 km high is no problem

and maybe u dont know but for the great united states the space start in 80 km high-the reason is that there less than 1 pound pressure on 1 square meter wing at a speed of 1000 miles a hour-that is not my idea that is the idea of the national american space agency-in true the reason was that the mercury rockets only fly 50 miles high

for german the space start at 120 km -the true reason are the rockets in ww2 that reach 120 km

and udssr-now russia-say it start at 180 km-what is possible true

and i have no fucking idea what china say-in true they give a fuck on it where it start

so if i take the lowest for my scale model it is only 800 meter i need-that is a half mile-and that i can maybe reach with a fucking coca cola bottle and mentos-do u need a pic on it

what the suicide thing is then i must say that my way is a really cool way for suicid-it is clean-nobody get hurt-nobody must get the body away-and u fly endless around the milkyway-because the risk of hitting something in this endless space is really low and will never ever happen-and it is much cheaper then doing it with a rocket-the rocket cost 10 million or more-the spaceblimp only cost 50 thousand and the fuel only 600 inclusive tax and the ride with the satellite is free

and know do u have any question because i dont have something better to do like this and drinking tea and eat a donut

>>8504156
i maybe new here but calling someone a idiot is against the rules on this board

can u not say it smarter and more clever like that way

ups-some people maybe can say now that my answer was against the rules of this board

let me get another try

if u think longer about it then maybe u can say it more clever then that way- i say more-do u know what it is-more like my dick is more longer then u dick

more like i sleep with more females like u do

give me quick quick a answer please

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>>8504371
>calling someone a idiot is against the rules on this board
>if u think longer about it then maybe u can say it more clever then that way- i say more-do u know what it is-more like my dick is more longer then u dick
>more like i sleep with more females like u do
>give me quick quick a answer please

>>8504174
u make me crazy with u scale

by a scale of 1 to 100

the satelite fly at 120 km and have a 50 km cable

and the blimp have a 5 km cable

so u need only 65 km fly high

in a scale that are just 650 meter or 0,4 miles

so that it

>>8504371

Until you learn how to properly write you and your ideas wont get anywhere. I checked the site you linked and it's equally redundant.

How exactly do you think acting like this will convince anyone that your theory is solid?

>>8504468
bullshit

u cannot kill a idea-that did never ever happens in the past and that will never ever happens in the future

after billions of gays have try to kill a idea-and they really try it harder then u think-there is only one thing clear now and forever and that is

u cannot kill a idea

i am german soldier and we really know a much about killing so this comment is not from a nobody

by the way - who to fuck are u

mister tell me something that i dont know or what

>>8504497
>i am german soldier
Danke für Ihre Dienstleistung

>>8504468
then u are the one from redmond washington-there are 3 gays visit my page-1 from spain-1 from kroatia and u

now tell me-do the other 2 gays really care about my english so long as they understand what is going on

by the way i was in kroatia nearby krk and i dont know one kroation word-i am not really sure what language they talk-i think in school they learned french and not english

there is a large connenction betwen kkroatia and france in the past

however-i dont care if germans or americans build a spaceblimp

maybe indonesia is building spaceblimps-because sooner or later people find out that rockets are the wrong way

no queostion people that fly with rockets into space a hero because they doing it for there nation-but it is not the way for the future

it is to dangerous it cost to much and if u wanna bring millions into space u will make a chaotic planet out of the earth

spaceblimps maybe work and it simply dont matter in what language i write it

i can trty in french
vehicle le aeronautico ela voyage a ....

i think french people will cry if the read that

and in spain
aeros a la future

not better in spain

in german
weltraumzeppeline sind die zukunft
that was easy

so no matter what language

it will happens one day with or without me and somewhere on this planet-and it really dont matter how i write

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>>8504497
>after billions of gays have try to kill a idea
>>8504531
>there are 3 gays visit my page

[spoiler]nobody tell him[/spoiler]

>>8504497
>>8504531

This is exactly what I'm referring to. I'm not going to bother reading your posts like this. You're not even able to properly complete sentences and you expect me to actually bother with your 50km cables in the sky theory. This is just sad.

>>8504538
and what-do u mean that tell me something

i guess u think if i think long enough about i will find out my mistake

please tell me how long can u wait untill that happens haha
forget it-in the past 15 years there are so many that simply dont accept reallity

the spaceblimp is reallity one day and on that day we will see if it work and it dont matter what u think-if u have question then here i am

i know what people ask that are know a little about what i am talking

they will ask have u seen the video of the rocket that fly 6 mach at the pacific on youtube

and i say yes-what fuel do they use

but gays like here who say space start at 290 km-come on
really
290 km
what to fuck that dont even close to where the space is starting
that is miles away from where space is starting

fuck god dammed-and then they write about my writing
sorry gays but u can learn a lot here

so if u wanna reply all my bullshit i was saying or what

god dammed that is such a brilliant idea lets make a pic from my dick and post it here

yes yes yes that idea is even better

so at the end u can reply that

>>8504565
then dont do it

i dont care

why do u thing i mean u

did i say hey anonymos read my post

no

if u read this here it have nothing to do with me

maybe because this here is the biggest thing in history and after this post here we will count the years after this post and no longer after a gay that was cruzify ed for an idea about doing good things to others

maybe i am the fucking new messias

or maybe u just wanna waste u time by fucking reading bullshit

or maybe because it maybe work that a blimp can fly into space

have u read all that

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>this thread
Thanks for the laughs, OP.

>>8504622
no matter

the only thing is i dont get paid for it

and if u are good at something then u better dont do it for free
that did told me a whore

the delta-v used to get out of the atmosphere is only a small portion of the overall budget necessary for getting into orbit

>>8503663
so nobody here have a question over the 3 rockets that the americans started in 2013 from the east coast of USA to find out what is there 90 km above them-first time they wanted to know after 50 years of rocket started-they used water to see what happens

or about new material that was developed and what and if they can be used in space

or new software simulator for space flight

so nobody wanna know here about

just some english teacher that are talking about gramatic

is this the correct place for a post like that-science means english gramatic or what

however-i give u the links the rest is by you

>>8504366
You can't even successfully divide by 100, but you want to tell NASA they're doing spacetravel wrong?
Jesus Fucking Christ.

>>8504646
manned space flight-we not talking about unmanned spaceflight

do u know how many ariane rockets are broken and nobody in europe cares and how much they cost and how many humans they shot into space

and by the way-first delta v manned flight is 2019 or what

i say it is 2021 and i will be right even if 99,9999999999999999 % of users in this forum will say 2019

>>8504669
yes i do

looks like u are the first that understand me

and my name is lars willen and not jesus fucking christ

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>>8503663
So you've basically discovered space tethers and added a whole bunch of unnecessary walla-walla bing-bang bullshit

>>8504717
nope
i done that walla bing bang bullshit and then later i find space theters and combinate it because with it it is much easier then with out

maybe the wlla bing bang bullshit did work without the theters satelite

i think that walla bing bang bullshit will do it alone into space-if u a fly in the correct degree over the northpole into the northern light or at southpole i am 100% sure it will work and u have a beautiful light show around you

so yes-with or without it it work-but probatly i must say that because i wanna sell this walla bing bang bullshit spaceblimpcraft to you

>>8504735
>>i done that walla bing bang bullshit and then later i find space theters and combinate it because with it it is much easier then with out
Prove it. Show us your math the demonstrates that this is the case.

>>i think that walla bing bang bullshit will do it alone into space-if u a fly in the correct degree over the northpole
Prove it. Use math.

>> i wanna sell this walla bing bang bullshit spaceblimpcraft to you
So you admit it is bullshit then? You certainly aren't doing a good job of selling this thing.

>>8504782
what exatly u dont understand at my mathematic

i can give u a example-if u have 2 tons and u wanna bring it from lancaster to birmingham and u have donkey u must go 100 times if the monkey only can take 20 kg-if u let the monkey pull a wagon u can do it in 1 time

so the donkey formula is D*M=LB>100 and D*W=LB>1
u can bring that together with a satelite that flyby low earth orbit at 120 km and highest distance from 2000km
the donkey satelite formula is then (D*M)-(S*O)=LB>1
and then u only need the cable that is 50 km Long donkey silver
that means (D*M)-(S*O)=(LB>1)-50 kmh
now u put in the variable
(1*2000)-(1*120)=(56*57>1)-50 kmh

and now to the second part of u quenstion-did it be true that i am a bad seller and that u are a bad buyer

looks like u dont want to travel into space because u have everything u want here-like the cheese factory and the beer brewery and the television network station-that are all things that a not around us in 40 lightyears distance

so have u any serious question ore u wanna just kill some time here till the free internet hour is over where u are

>>8503663
so today i found 4 chan

and i decided not to play total war ultimate and kill some mongols

and i was doing that thread

looks like nobody have real quenstion then u all know what it i

and only some gramatic fanatic like to say they dont read and that is really fine because i dont like then either

thats ok for me i like it easy
at the end a reality check and then i go to bed

rockets=are reallity but extremly dangerous
jp aerospace=is reallity check out the youtube clips
spaceblimp=are reality and will get proven one day somewhere over the rainbow
movie spacecraft=they are not reallity and dont even work in a scale 1 to 100 and dont cry take it like a man

so long
i have fun and hope u enjoy it
bg
willen

So was op a troll or was he just a shining example that Germans can be just as retarded as people of any other nationality?

OP, you DO realise there's no air in space? How do you expect a blimp to function?

>>8504974
maybe i expect that u read the fucking link

are u really sure there is no air in the space-i mean by your post i am not really sure that you know that there is no air in the space

maybe i ask you is there enough air to breathe just 10 km above you

i dont wanna surprise you but there is not enough air to breathe 10 km above you

and if u read that god dammed fucking link you will see that the blimp only fly 9 km high and then started into space

and that fucking information is written in great letters at the fucking front page of my page

i mean the god dammed fucking frontpage

DO YOU GOT IT

THE FUCKING FRONTPAGE

NO I DONT THINK U GOT IT

THE FIRST SIDE

JUST IN THE FUCKING MIDDLE WHEN IT STARTED

>keeps saying gays
You mean fags I reckon

>>8506081
is saying fags are not against the forum rules

please say no it is not against the rules

>>8504825
That was a serious question.

So you don't think there's a problem with the fact that the tether is moving at 8.3 km/s and your blimp is not?

So your periapsis is 120 km and apoapsis is 2000 km.
So we calculate the semi-major axis,[eqn]a[/eqn], to be:
(120 km +2000 km + 12742 km)/2 =7431 km
12742 being the diameter of the Earth.

we know the distance from Earth's center [math]r[/math] to be 120 km + 6371 km= 6491 km
And Earth's standard gravitational parameter [math]/mu[/math] to be[math]3.986 \times 10^{14} m^3s^{-2}[/math]
Substituting this in to
[eqn]V= \sqrt{\mu(\frac{2}{r}-\frac{1}{a}})[/eqn]

We find the velocity [math]V[/math] to be 8.3 km/s

Isn't that you know a bit much? This is like mach 25 at 60 km. Your tether would get creamed.

>>8504916
>retarded
do u mean me with retaerded and not the brainless gay that ask me if i know that there is no air in space

i mean what else quenstion can i aspekt from him

if i know that moon is not make out of cheese

if i know that the sun dont burn wood

how can someone be more retarded then him

even if u tell kids at the elementary school a blimp can fly to the moon they say no

but u mean me with retarded-so i can only think that u and the gay with the not clever or smart quenstion are the same

is there nobody on 4chan that can make a clever or smart quenstion-i did never aspekt someone watch the link-but here is absolutly nobody nowhere with a intelligent question or something like that here-have u no honour or have u better things to like me-and i have tons of things to do-i get 400 euro each hour by my work-but i take the time to have some fun here

so is there anybody or not

>>8506112
I meant you. Right now the bar is leaning towards troll.

Also I'm not the gay with the smart question. I've devoted too much time in my life trying to convince people that basic physics renders their idea for a spacecraft impractical. I've reached a point where I just sit back and enjoy the ride nowdays rather than shout at a brick wall.
>so is there anybody or not
There have been a few but your responses range from ignorant at best to gibberish more often than not. Keep up the good work.

>>8506107
there is a different betwen the rocket that pull it with 7408,8 km h
and the satelite with a speed of 14,000 km/hour

if u mean that because i dont really understand your question

but that are real things that really fly and that are allready there and they must not be developed-u can touch them in real

both are not make for pulling something into space

in the case of preparing it for that kind of operation a rocket with a speed with 8 thousand km h and a satelite in a orbit with 12 thousand hour is easy possible

the different of 4 thousend km h to manage somewhere and somehow is in the range of really doing it

some test and some money
maybe a better orbit
maybe better fuel
maybe the correct route with correct degree
maybe with the help from fucking jesus

i can clearly and surely say that one day someone somewhere is doing it because the different is allready so small

but by the way your question-what diameter of earth and gravitation-i cannot really say i understand that-maybe there is a hidden point that is important

but so long i cannot see anything that have something to with spaceflight

maybe that formula help ak*w=a-w that is that the same thrust of a rocket like the weight of the rocket-that mean a rocket can only start after it burns some fuel-thats why rockets start slowly-the trust is like the weight

have nothing to do with anything here but it is maybe a inspiration

so the answer is no to your question

simply no

>>8506129
>but by the way your question-what diameter of earth and gravitation-i cannot really say i understand that-maybe there is a hidden point that is important
>but so long i cannot see anything that have something to with spaceflight
You can't see what gravity or the radius of the Earth have to do with LEO spaceflight?

>>8506107
i read your post now 4 times and i think i know what u wanted

short answer-the speed will not be over 18 mach after spin around the satelite and leaving into space-that are 22 thousand km h

the longer version-gravity is less important for that all-because after 50 km above earth gravity is nearby nothing
the theter is for 2 tons and is not the real problem-the problem is the structure of the blimp-but i think the airbrake after connect with the satelite is low enough for the structure

before the blimp connect to the satelite the airbrake helps to lower the weight of 2 tons

also a bigger theter is possible that can hold more tons

after the satelite that dont really need to pull the blimp to that speed there can be a second satelite-that is not my idea thats the idea of the theter company guys-and they have a real company and i think the are clever and smart enough so that they know what they are talking about-so the first satelite maybe just lift the spacecraftblimp up in a orbit 200 or 240 km above and give them speed of 10 mach and the second satelite give them speed of 18 mach

i still not sure if that was your question but that here is my answer

>>8506129
>>in the case of preparing it for that kind of operation a rocket with a speed with 8 thousand km h and a satelite in a orbit with 12 thousand hour is easy possible
Orbital speeds are not in kilometers per hour, but KILOMETERS PER SECOND.
>>the different of 4 thousend km h to manage somewhere and somehow is in the range of really doing it
Ignoring the fact that your velocity difference is much more than 4 "thousend" km/h, such a speed difference between your blimp/rocket/whatever is getting pulled is quite a lot. 4000 km/h is faster than projectile from an artillery cannon:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzle_velocity

>>maybe a better orbit
what orbit?
>>maybe better fuel
what fuel?
>>maybe the correct route with correct degree
what route?

>>i cannot really say i understand that-maybe there is a hidden point that is important
It's basic orbital mechanics, you should read up on this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_mechanics

>>but so long i cannot see anything that have something to with spaceflight
Orbital mechanics has EVERYTHING to do with spaceflight

>>8506136
as far as i know is the influrence on satelite in LEO very low-the gps satelite are in LEO-i dont have the technical information on gps satelite or the parameters of there orbit but i have never heard that there was a great problem

it is something u must count with-but less then a problem then all the other bullshit u have to do before u reaching that point

there was a interresting story about gps satelite and the different orbits in behavior to the gravity-some rocket scientist said that was sign that the gravition from earth in some parts of the orbit is like the behaivior of something living-but that was only spekulation-was never a problem for the gps satelite-and have nothing to do with this here-i just remenbered it-thats all-and i am not really sure that my explanation was nearby correctly maybe i just missunderstand it all or it was a hoax

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>>8506150
>>because after 50 km above earth gravity is nearby nothing
go take a goddamn physics class. The gravity at the ISS's altitude(401-410 km) is ~90 percent of what it is on Earth's surface.
https://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/5-8/features/nasa-knows/what-is-microgravity-58.html

You have not a fucking clue what you're talking about

>>8506155
the astronomy.ohio-state.edu < guys are saying that-i dont know who they are but i think they are cool-they say 14 thousend kilometer hour

as u can see by the fucking link http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit5/gps.html
and hey kid-i dont get fucking paid for telling u every thing that u dont understand

read it more then fucking one time if u dont fucking get it befpore u fucking ask me

and dont tell me what i have to do or not to do because that here is my fucking time that i wasted

comeback after thinking and reading-is that fucking clear

>>8506163

wiki say the orbit is 330 km

the person that dont have a clue was you

and fuck dont tell me what i have to do

who to fuck u think u are

>>8503663
what a pack of looser with none understanding of simple pysik with stupid questions that send nobody into space the last and next 5 yeras

and they are not care about a way to fly to moon or mars in the next 2 years and they still thinking that suicidal rocket trips are a good idea

and not one with enough brain here for a question on 4chan sci

i go and watch ben hur and so long dont post useless fuck bullshit post because i give a piece of shit on it and please all u gramatic freaks dont come back

OP don't leave

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>>8503663
i am waiting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsnXeQDqOOg

>>8506175
Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Space_Station

>Perigee 400.2 km (248.7 mi) AMSL[3]
>Apogee 409.5 km (254.5 mi) AMSL[3]

And you didn't respond to the point, gravity is still very strong in orbit. If it wasn't, the ISS would just fly away from the Earth instead of spinning around it. Take your meds schizo.

>>8506450
really
so the earth fly around the sun since 5 fucking billions years but the gravity did not pull it in

the apollo was flying 14 days to the moon and u never hear tom hanks saying- houston we have a problem with the gravity
14 days and no fucking fuel for apollo

and there 5 thousand fucking satelite out there and with all the fuel that they have together u cannot get a aircraft carrier from liverpool to irland on a sunny day

and a 747 have a weight of fucking 373 tons and fly 16 hour and noone say-we have a problem with the fucking high gravitation

maybe u have a problem with the gravitation but i have no problem with it

but i dont

>>8506463
>so the earth fly around the sun since 5 fucking billions years but the gravity did not pull it in
>the apollo was flying 14 days to the moon and u never hear tom hanks saying- houston we have a problem with the gravity
>14 days and no fucking fuel for apollo
>maybe u have a problem with the gravitation but i have no problem with it

Holy shit. This is fantastic.
You want to tell the world how to build launch vehicles, and you don't even understand basic Newtonian mechanics.

>>8506467
yes this is the new beginning of a minnelium and the greatest holy shit in the complete humanmenkind

this spacecraftblimp is the greatest thing for all people and i am the new messias

at the end u got it-now we all fly to the stars and build billions of colonies

i will meet god like prometheus at the fog 800 lightyears away and say him hello

we will build huge factories where we build hundreds of thousands spacecraftblimp

i am so god dammed fucking happy that at the end u understand it

i have only one fucking question

who to hell is newton

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>>8503663
i am sure u can do it better like all the others here

this fucking of physik faggot with no brain that posted bullshit all the time

there must be somebody with a little understanding of spaceflight here by 4chan that can make a little clever post that really let me think about that all

come on i know u are out there somewhere

do not hide u mind

>>8506068

So you know there's no air, care to answer my other question? What do you think a blimp will do, in space? I'll give you a clue: it won't float.

>>8506640
hahahahahahahahahahaha

it dont float hahaha

thats good hahahahahaha

oh my fucking god is that good hahahahaha

no air in space hahahahahahahaha

please stop hahahaha

i can no longer read u post it hurts my eyes hahahahahahaha

no fucking air in the space hahahahaha

that is so fucking brillant and genial hahahahaha

and it don float-it really dont fucking float hahahahaha

how to fuck can somebody write such a giant bullshit hahahahaha

air float hahahahahaa

good god i die slowly here

hahahaha

there must be a nest of loosers with a internet account hahaha

if i read it backward it maybe make senc

float air

no that is the same way stupid as hell

lets try with the letters on different places

ria taolf

that is nothing lets see and give a nother try

lofatria

thats it that is better then u fucking bullshit

hahahahaha

u got it

my spacecraftblimp is flotaria

ok joke is over-is there someone that can post something serious

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>>8503663
is here somebody with my brain and wanna know something about blimpspace

>>8506657

Oh you're retarded. Carry on then.

>>8503663
are u kidding me

here is not on useless stupid post

i post a video of a fucking spacecrafblimp in front of the fucking capitol and all i get
is this


some gravity air float

giga bullshit


i dont think that there will come a post that is not bullshit

did u all brainwashed zombies waiting for the next meal

have u really nothing to do

go search a job or a bitch

>>8506680

The five second video shows nothing of substance. What's the point of it? Is it a joke?

The other video you linked while clear in its goal it offers no useful information, does not address its obvious design problems and more importantly it's just a CGI concept that doesn't take any natural factors or simulates the enviroment.

And how is a blimp able to take off from the Moon when it has no atmosphere?

>>8507127
It's snagged by a tether from an orbiting satellite moving at a fraction of orbital speed through the magic of OP's design. Space Agencies hate him. He does spaceflight without Orbital Mechanics.

>>8507127
5 second is the maximum concentration time here by 4chan how it looks like

fuck damm i am not stupid you dont even look at the fucking link

what the video say is that i sold one hundred thousand steathl spacecraft blimb ssb to the united states capitol and one of them is now direktly over your fucking house-that is the important message from that video-we done all that bullshit just for you

what to hell was you thinking what the video means

and a spaceblimp start the same way from moon like the eagle-with fucking fuel from the tankstop -see the video it is exatly the same like 1973

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iziumcklDbM

>>8507229
how will you nobody knows if a space agency knows me and really-i use a satelite to get the spacecraftblimp into space and dont know orbit

i am the fucking only one in this thread and maybe by 4chan that knows how high they fly and what speed and how to write it correctly-because all others done it wrong here-u must only scroll up to see it

scrolling up mens for u above your fucking monitor

if you have absolutly no idea what a bullshit your talking then why to fuck did you read that

even braindead monkeys have written better post then you do-are you a crash test dummy post writer or what is your job

that is far from logic what i must read here because of you-havent your parents told you not to talk with the bad uncle

are you one of this kids that follow the bad men and now your do your post traumatic hour here

have you a drug problem or alcohol or are you just mental ill

wait-i dont fucking care but please stop writing you national american agency press speaker of fucking houston

>>8506463
>so the earth fly around the sun since 5 fucking billions years but the gravity did not pull it in
Yes, that's what our solar system's planets are, the only things which did not get pulled into the sun, because they have a stable orbit.

>the apollo was flying 14 days to the moon and u never hear tom hanks saying- houston we have a problem with the gravity
14 days and no fucking fuel for apollo
Huh? Do you not realize that almost all of the fuel that the Saturn V carried, about 90% of its mass, was used to escape Earth's gravity? No, they never "ran out" of fuel, moron, they used a lot of it to get to the moon.

>and there 5 thousand fucking satelite out there and with all the fuel that they have together u cannot get a aircraft carrier from liverpool to irland on a sunny day
Do you not understand how orbit works, retard? You don't need fuel to orbit once you reach a certain momentum which balances with the gravitational force. Satellites only need to carry enough fuel to make minor adjustments to their orbit every once in a while.

>and a 747 have a weight of fucking 373 tons and fly 16 hour and noone say-we have a problem with the fucking high gravitation
What? What? What are you trying to argue here? Any airplane produces large amounts of lift to counteract gravity.

>>8507876
hahahaha

you just copy and paste

and you think i answer a second time just because u was not clever enough to read it correctly or you just read half of this bullshit that is allready written here

and the apollo spacecraft that was on the top of the saturnv was not escaping the earth gravity

what to hell did you thinking why the moon is flying around us-i guess u thinkig every thing in this universe fly around you-but that is wrong-it is the earth gravitation that holds the moon in his orbit

i cannot believe how somebody dont know that and know i answering one of this .....things....that posted here bullshit

go buy a fucking book spacetrip for dummies

and by the way -each passenger of a fucking 747 have 150 kg fuel to reach the target and the spacecraftblimp have 600 kg blackpowder

and yes you can use blackpowder for rockets-the fucking space shuttle have fucking 2 busters-and that are rockets with something like blackpowder

i dont wanna use to difficult words here like lhx or hydrogen because some here even not understand that and then want they that i say it again again and again like a radio tape

>>8507911
>and the apollo spacecraft that was on the top of the saturnv was not escaping the earth gravity
Of course it did, moron.

>what to hell did you thinking why the moon is flying around us-i guess u thinkig every thing in this universe fly around you-but that is wrong-it is the earth gravitation that holds the moon in his orbit
So you don't even understand that the force of gravity is dependent on the mass of the object orbiting the earth? Did you not pass high school yet? A planet's orbit is much bigger than a satellite's orbit, because a planet is much more massive and feels a larger force.

>and by the way -each passenger of a fucking 747 have 150 kg fuel to reach the target and the spacecraftblimp have 600 kg blackpowder
Take your meds, schizo. And pass high school.

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>>8507919
i dont care about u post anymore

i wait for a clever post without bullshit

the first with a clever post get a donut
and you did not even understand that i have all that allready written and correctly-not the endless bullshit that you write

no-every thing from me was correct

and from you was nothing correct

and you dont even read what i have written or you did not understand it

and stop telling me what i have to do-what do you think you are

do you think i have boobs and a cunt or why to fuck you think i believe that shit that you are writing-do you think that i am a bitch

i really dont think somebody can help you-even medicine will not work by you

>>8507928
>a bloo bloo I'm right you're wrong hurrrrrr
Great argument, retard. You lose, thread over.

>>8507943
what
all he do is

copy paste

write something ugly

copy paste

write something ugly

copy paste

write something ugly

copy paste

write something ugly

copy paste

write something ugly

copy paste

write something ugly

>>8507948
And yet you still fail to respond to the arguments which show that you don't understand Newtonian gravity at all. You lose, thread over.

>>8507952
if you are nearby i response and then you dont ever write a fucking post again

>>8507956
And yet again you fail to respond to the argument. Do you like being proven a retard?

Has anyone in this thread been convinced you know anything? Has anyone ever responded to your shitty waste of a life positively?

>>8507928
Keep going op. You're putting on a real show.

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>>8503663
i and my company the north west germany gauchos www.nwgg.de are paying 50.000 dollar cash for a clever post here and now

50.000 dollar cash for a clever post here and now

50.000 dollar cash for a clever post here and now

50.000 dollar cash for a clever post here and now

50.000 dollar cash for a clever post here and now

So it's been firmly established that op is retarded, but I'm wondering. While we're all here, does anyone have any good recommendations for books on Orbital Mechanics?

>>8507966
>my company
>implying it's not just you, a sad lonely nutjob
>implying it's a company
>implying you have enough brain power to understand half the posts in this thread, let alone a clever post

>>8507966
define "clever"

>>8507963
>Anonymous 11/29/16(Tue)10:47:29 No.8504037▶>>8504043 >>8504055
>Hello,
>http://www.jpaerospace.com/
>Good luck.


you dont read it or did you not understand it
what to fuck is wrong with you
have you mother dont give you the breast

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>>8503663
come on gays is that all

>>8507989
What movie is the second L from?

>>8508023
The Last Temptation of Christ

What shape do orbits take OP? I want to know what you think about that.

Also, where did you learn English?

>>8507850

>what the video say is that i sold one hundred thousand steathl spacecraft blimb ssb to the united states capitol and one of them is now direktly over your fucking house-that is the important message from that video-we done all that bullshit just for you

None of this is in the video. Maybe you should rewatch what you posted.

>what to hell was you thinking what the video means

I thought it would explain your idea, it doesn't. It offers no concrete information nor does it address the problems in your design.

>and a spaceblimp start the same way from moon like the eagle-with fucking fuel from the tankstop -see the video it is exatly the same like 1973

Ah so it starts like a rocket. The very thing your'e against.

>>8508141
what or who is OP

>>8508172
ok ok stui

i have here a other video that explain it much better

it is over 1 hour 29 min long

and it is completly from me guy

really serious it is all from me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FbJWkCyG6Q

>>8508279
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FbJWkCyG6Q
Well then. That is definitely a video on youtube.

>>8508299
yeah.well i done 70 video and upload it to youtube and +another 25 that they deleted because of reason - so i know how to video just in the case u must all try it out first before it work

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>>8503663
and there is no reaction to that 1 hour 29min video

>>8503663
thats ok for me then i go on play a game-total war ultima

it is just the most important thing in the history of humans-but nobody have a clever post and no bullshit post about gravitation +air+fload are not clever

>>8508406
The Americans are sleeping right now. Why don't you play some Orbiter instead? http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/

What is this guy even talking about, some form of Space Elevator?

>>8508279

I didn't ask you for an hour long techno music video. I asked you for something informative which would prove your thesis and address the problems of your design. Jumbled 20 year old 3D designs don't and can't prove anything as they don't factor in any of the environmental, material and physical factors that would influence your design in real life. You'll need a better model if you want to even start convincing anyone.

Secondly you provide no clear argument as to why this system (if it even works) is better than the current rocket based model. Furthermore you mention cables and satellites but conveniently you're forgetting the fact that scientists did try this and have concluded that there is no material that would endure the operational hazards let alone how much of a nightmare would it be to maintain it. The geostationary orbit for satellites is 35400 km and a blimp so far has gone up to 60 km. Not high enough friend.

Thirdly you show great lack in knowledge of orbital mechanics, aerodynamics and Newtonian physics. Where did you get your degree in science? And which field is it?

On the other hand the current model for sending people into space works just fine with minimal casualties and is getting better energy wise and safety wise. We've been steadily sending people to the ISS without any difficulty. Why change it? Why construct all this conundrum when we have a perfectly good model that's very open for constant improvements.

In short: if you can't bother to properly present your ideas I'm not going to bother with you. Nobody will for that matter. Get your shit together.

>>8508279
Hey Lars, it seems like you are a 30+ years old grown man, please stop embarrassing yourself by arguing with shitposters on 4chan. Also please stop writing "u", use "you" like a normal human being, you aren't a 14 years old girl. Your writing is almost unintelligible, please use capitalisation and commas. Also your website looks like something from the 90s. You are to /sci/ what Terry A. Davis is to /g/.

>>8503689
>not understanding Germans have four cases of speech whereas English speakers only have three

I think you're the real retard here.

>>8508967
>You are to /sci/ what Terry A. Davis is to /g/.
Please don't compare our lord and savior Terry A. Davis to this CIA nigger

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>>8503663
ok ok ok ok

so somebody read that-however the reason was

and someone watch the video-or they do not

and now what-nobody have a real question-noone care or what

and now please all the gays that write i better do something or do that or write it this way-can they now all come together in a great group and then everybody take the dick of the gay next u and then u all pull so hard u can on my comment

for everybody else who whant something serious u can read my 2 webpages with 250 sides and the 5 blogs and u can shopping in my shop or look at the forum or watch one of my 70 youtube video or u call me-day and night -i am sitting next to my phone and waiting

have i something forgotten-i guess i have- i gonna write it later and go watching fucking tv

>>8508471
The gruesome result of a three-way between a sky hook, JP aerospace's blimp concepts, and a complete misunderstanding of both those two concepts and physics in general.

>>8508492

lets make a reallity check if rocket works just fine with minimal casulties

we have send less then 10 thousand humans into space and 100 are dead 21 in fly and 79 on the ground

lets check that with the other

rockets 1 to 100
car 1 to 1 million
plane 1 to 2 million
helicopter 1 to 4 million
bycicle 1 to 8 million
train 1 to 12 million

so that u call a cool and safe system that works with minimal calsulties

how fucking crazy are u -that is not cool

the spacecraftblimp have maybe a rate of 1 to 1 million

flying with rockets are heroic and a extremly costful suicid

and yes my numbers are correct

and now lets see what bullshit is coming else from u

u are so a fucking joker-minimal calsulties-only couchpilots can talk that shit-forget it

>>8503663
Blimps remain too flimsy for space.

>>8509171
>and yes my numbers are correct
They really aren't. People who smarter than you have already figured out what you need for a tether and what you have doesn't even come close. Following numbers are mostly taken from a report Boeing did for DARPA. The numbers are what they think is the best you could do with modern technology

Let's start with your blimp/rocket. I'm going to leave your ridiculous estimate for needing 600kg of fuel to other people and focus on the on the speed and altitude performance. You say it goes up to 60km before being snagged by the satellite. That is nowhere near high enough. Boeing's Orbital tether requires you to reach 100 - 150 km before you're at an altitude where the tether can grab the payload. And that's ignoring the speed. Boeing figured you would need either a hypersonic aircraft or rocket to reach the speed/altitude for the tether to grab the payload. Something tells me the plastic cells of your blimp won't be able to withstand the stress of hypersonic flight.

As for the tether, from the broken English of your description, you appear to have opted for the rotating tether approach. That's actually the most realistic thing so far. Boeing determined that rotating the tether is the best approach with current technology. The issue however is that your tether is 80km long. Boeing estimated that a tether would need to be around 600km long. (Or a mere 500 km long if your plane can reach 150km altitude). You're off by nearly an order of magnitude. In addition your satellite and payload only reach 160km in altitude. Boeing figured that the center of mass would need to orbit between 610 km and 700 km in altitude. 160km is technically high enough for LEO, but at those heights there is just enough atmosphere to knock you out of orbit in couple weeks.

The engineers at Boeing are smarter than you could ever hope to be. You aren't going to beat them.

>>8509125
I died. Someone archive this comment and the post now

>>8510096
congrats your are the first clever post and you can grabbed your 50.000 dollar after i get the same subvention as boing did-and boing get subvention that at end dont even fly or cost 7 times like the 747

i think i have more then enough fuel for a journey of 80 km and a passenger just have 150 kg fuel for a distance of 16.000 km with a 747

Highly Elliptical Orbit (HEO) satelite is what i want and wiki say it is 200 till 15.000 km - that u can proof here

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellitenorbit

oh my fucking god it is in german-thats your fucking problem bitch

i want a satelite in a 120 km till 2000 km heo -so every 20 min it travel nearby stratosphaere on various points with a 50 km cable - so it is just 70 km about ground and thanks to computer that control the connecting from both they will be connected-the weight of 1.4 tons will be lifted up on a orbit of 240 km and a speed of 12 mach

the supersonic rocket X-43A Hypersonic Scramjet fly Mach 7-as u can see here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K_rzuSuqIg

such rockets will pull the spacecraftblimp higher and in the higher atmosphere the rocket will get 10 mach by less airbrake and better fuel and that match the speed of the satelite of mach 10

and now before u answer if u answer-wash your dirty mouth kid your talking with a german ground infantry apc warrior and not with your mother that worked on the echo park as hostress

>>8510161
So, you have no interest in actual physics and are just making this up as you go along?

>>8510174
correct-i dont really care about that here

because i was never thinking that someone from germany or USA or russia or china or japan doing it-and because of history i dont even want it

and guess what-the visitors at my homepage are thinking the same

No. Country Last Visit Percent & Number of Visits
1 Germany Fri Dec 2, 2016 07:46:27 40.23% 914


2 Brazil Mon Nov 28, 2016 16:21:31 23.06% 524


3 United States Fri Dec 2, 2016 06:04:17 10.61% 241


4 Italy Sun Oct 23, 2016 18:31:05 4.01% 91


5 Slovakia Mon Oct 31, 2016 09:47:33 1.76% 40

as you can see brazil are more interrested and they are talking portuguese and not spain

nation like brazil or thailand or turkey or pakistan or mexico or indonesia will do it-or one of the other 35 nation with enough infrastructure

u just need 30 mil dollar + satelite to do it

and the best is-u dont need really a satelite-u just must upload a video on youtube with a spacecraftblimp that fly 10 mach at 65 km and thats it

after that u can relax and watch the spacerace of the nation-and that all for the cost of a broken space x rocket

and yes-thats why i give a shit on this thread and i only doing it to have fun

maybe that do some of the more crazy 4chan gays dont believe-but i have tons of funs-i think i smile even if i sleep

>>8510096
i forgetten the fucking palstic cells-maybe tomorrow i go now playing-i wanna raid bombay

>>8510199

You went from a laughable crank to a delusional sad man. This isn't fun anymore. You need medication or a more simple hobby.

>>8510161
It would cost way more than that. Launching the components alone would take over a dozen Delta-IV Launches each costing 3/4 of a billion or more. Development costs would probably be in the tens of billions minimum.


A 747 carries significantly more than 150kg of fuel. A full fuel load for a 747 is well over 1,000 times that. At any rate the thing about going into space is that you distances don't matter so much as speed does. Space is only a bit over 100km away. Getting there is easy but if you want to stay there you need to be going fast.

I know what a highly elliptical orbit is. They're not ideal for space tethers for multiple reasons including timing, the fact it puts your payload on a highly elliptical orbit among other factors.


The orbit you give will also take significantly longer than 20 minutes. With a perigee that low you will encounter significant atmospheric drag so your orbit will still deteriorate rapidly. Another important thing to point out is that if you dip your tether that low into the atmosphere it's going to encounter significant air resistance. The reason Boeing went for 100 -150kms in altitude was because if they dipped it any lower, the heat generated would compromise the integrity of the tether. Also your tether is still too short as you aren't taking into account the fact that the center of rotation for the tether will NOT be the end of the tether opposite the payload. The center of mass will be at a point along the tether.
Question: If you're going to pull the blimp to the tether with a rocket or hypersonic spaceplane. Why not just skip the blimp and just use the rocket or hypersonic spaceplane?

>>8510249
nearer to the rocket fuel= more dangerous-because fuel can explode

the greater the distance the safer it is

otherwise a sso <single stage orbiter-will be great-but each time u sitting nearby the fuel u risk u life-and the guys at the tank stop risk the life at the starting point

second-the theter<(is a carbon cable) needed for a 1.4 ton is just 10 cm-the airbreak is low then

3 the satelite get the speed back by heo at the greater distance after he droped neaby atmosphere

4 each passenger a 747 have 150 kg fuel for a 16.000 km journey -the spacecraftblimp have 1 passenger

5 hm the satelite in heo flys3 hour or so-i am not sure why i write 20 min-maybe i did not calculated and thinking about 20 min in stratosphaere- i dont know-i know now i say 3 hour-maybe i calculate it one day accurate

that was now 1 mistake on 33 bullshit post or so-maybe because the most post i answer was worthles and full of ugly things

i dont fucking care

maybe answering brainless post are infected-omfg maybe i get ill from this shit here and at the end i post bullshit like the others-like beating by a zombie

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh help

>>8503663
i want 10 theter cable sateliet then every 20 min 1 is pitch the stratosphere

they are cheap -10 tcs cost as much as 1 network satelite

and u get them all at once in orbit with a ariane 5+

>>8510278
By your logic it is safer to ride a skateboard and hold onto a rope and be towed along by a car than it is to ride in the car. After all cars have fuel and can crash.

The Boeing study estimated heating of the tether's tip as reaching 1600 C at 80km. (Compared to only 80 C at 100km) Keep in mind that not just your tether but also the docking mechanism needs to withstand this heat. Also worth pointing out their tether was only 1.2cms thick at the tip had a payload of 15 tons and used a weaker material assuming that by "carbon cable" you mean carbon nanotubes. So you clearly didn't do much thinking or math here.

Fuel per passenger of an aircraft is a shitty measure for comparison. Especially for aircraft with vastly different roles. You're failing to take into account that you need to lift fuel to lift things other than that person. Like the life support, cargo, the rocket and the fuel.

So you admit you know don't know enough about orbits and haven't calculated jack shit.


>>8510314
Your magic 80km long 10cm thick carbon cable would mass over 200 tons. You're not fitting ONE, much less 10 of them on an Araine 5. Boeing's tether would be well over 1000 tons. Note that this is only the tether. This does not include the satellite it is attached to.

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>>8510352
then it is better u call the cable guy because he is a freak like u
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i dont think that 80km cable have half of the weight of the fucking iff
in case of the space elevator the cable have a weight of a nukular submarine
each 1 meter have then 2.5 kilogram-that are the cable weight of the cable used to build the fucking broklyn bridge

we are in a new minellium and the weight of 1 meter cable needed for that is 100 gram i think
maybe u ask the guys that climb on the fucking mount everest what weight it because they buy that shit on fucking ebay

i also like if u and people like u googel that shit alone because i am not your nigger to do u fucking work-simply thinking is also a good idea before sent out a post in the fucking world

after all-as if that was not enough- is that i am not the guy that say that this theter shit ever work-it is the smart boing nasa and theter company guys that say that this shit works-so maybe u ask them and not me that bullshit-i guess u done it and u was getting no answer-is that right-no answer needed

and what to fuck is that skateboard car bullshit-we are talking here about real transportation what really people doing and not the shit that your girlfriend and you are doing-i guess you do ill things

after all for the other that maybe read that shit here i can give u a fucking link that normaly everybody can get alone-and then u can calculate by your own because i have better things to do-i watch fucking stargate-yes that is old-but better than answer bullshit post

>>8510868
i forget the fucking link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_nanotube

and next time u doing it alone kids

how about a spacecart

>>8510868
You are severely underestimating how much a cable weighs when it is multiple kilometers long. The reason your cable is so heavy for its length is because it's multiple times as thick as it needs to be (Which mkes me think you pulled the number out your ass). I admit to slightly screwing up on my calculation I used the density of carbon rather than that of a nanotube (Which is roughly comprable to graphite). So it's only around 178 metric tons. Even if you slim it down by a factor of 10, you're still at the edge of a single Ariane 5 for one tether. When you consider the mass of the satellite (Which must be around the mass of the tether for reasons which would be obvious if you knew basic physics) you've still exceeeded an Ariane 5's capability. You can probably slim it down to be thinner, but you're still not fitting 10 on an Ariane 5.
So you want me to google all your calculations for you? It's not my job to do your math. I'm asking about math you should have already done.
Boeing says a tether can work. That does not mean your fucking tether/blimp works.They determined that you need a tether nearly an order of magnitude longer, their plan called for materials that are already widely available and they did not plan on towing a fucking blimp behind a rocket.
>>8510891
While Carbon nanotubes are a thing, it is not currently possible to fabricate them on the scale needed for a tether. No one has even made one longer than a meter, much less kilometers long.

>>8503663
>>>/x/

How about this:

Blimp carries rocket/payload to the highest possible altitude.

Blimp releases rocket/payload and first stage fires. (Releases from bottom of blimp so the rocket falls and fires below it).

Rocket/payload uses the controlled thrust to propell itself on a optimal angle out of Earth's atmosphere and orbit.

Would this not reduce overall fuel and energy requirements to get out of orbit? Or is the savings so small that it doesn't even matter? I figure the technical issues with stabilizing the thrust should be acheivable given Space-X's controlled landings. Surely this wouldn't require substancial technical breakthroughs if they can already do that.

>>8511084
if i hold my dick in my both hand then i hold a 1 meter dick with the weight of 2,25 kg and that is exatly the weight of your fucking cable

no that was a joke my dick have only a weight of 100 gramm and with this dick i gonna fuck you and not with the monster dick and i know that you really want that

why do i know that you want that is easy because you fuck yourself by posting braindead bullshit

if you have a problem with this guys from the theter satelite company it maybe better if you sent them a fucking email and i can give you the email adress it is [email protected]

and by the way they wanna use a titan with a payload of 4.8 ton

so long silver

>>8511150
that is a other plan i allready hear-and i see pic-but that is not my plan

i find the idea good-but i never calculate or reseach if it work-it sound possible for me but that mean not a lot

i also hear from that in connection with jp aerospace but i not really sure how detailed it is

the most thing that makes spacetravel dangerous is the fuel and in space fuel is not really needed because one time you have the speed you fly until u brake

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>>8511150
Just launch the rocket from a large mech like how the shagohod was supposed to do but with nuclear warheads.

>>8511190
> fuel is not really needed because one time you have the speed you fly until u brake

Except, you know, for landing on planets/moons and taking off.

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>>8511178
What the fuck are you even trying to say?

>>8511150
I have a friend who was considering a similar approach for the N-prize. He wanted to suspend a rocket under a weather balloon and then launch from the maximum altitude of the balloon. He worked out that you're saving less than one km/s of delta-v. For an N-prize rocket it might be worth it, but for any practical launch vehicle it wouldn't be worth the cost and effort.
>>8511226
Also course changes and corrections.

>>8511345
>He wanted to suspend a rocket under a weather balloon and then launch from the maximum altitude of the balloon. He worked out that you're saving less than one km/s of delta-v.
From what I understand, those kind of approaches are pretty common on small things like sounding rockets. But there's just no point for anything bigger.

This guy is trolling big league.

>>8512019

I'm not sure. He seems too real to be just a troll. I've met delusional people like this in real life and they act a lot like tgis guy. Someone should do a study on them.

>>8503750
I recon this thread is complex.

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>>8503663
>some autismal kid spews bullshit about space blimps in broken english
>/sci/ takes itself a bit too seriously
What the fuck's wrong with you, faggot OP? Fuck off back to /b/ or to /k/ to ally with the gliderfag. Sage

BACK TO LIFE

>>8511833
They're common enough for sounding rockets, but he wanted to use it as the starting point to get into orbit. A rocket that could win the N-prize wouldn't be much larger than sounding rocket so it could work.

>>8514272
Not really.

>>8503663
Is this /sci/'s most successful thread?

This thread is still here WEW