Swedish Scientist is editing healthy Human Embryos and developing

Unethical.

>>8364062
Of course it is.

It might lead to more intelligent, healthy, or attractive humans.

>>8364006
Am I the only person who doesn't give a shit about ethics? Especially when it has to do with Human Embryos and other things that cant feel pain
What exactly makes this unethical? inb4 God

>>8364085
>more intelligent
what would be unethical about that. Stupidity is the greatest evil
>healthy
that's why we spend trillions of dollars on health... because it's unethical
>attractive
that is unethical. No one should be attractive. We should all be unattractive.

>>8364006
I really, really hope that CRISPR will be a success since the first trials, since the HIV experiment went well. Now we just have to wait for the chinese results.

>>8364100
>inb4 God
*tips fedora*
Burgerland is pretty much the only place in the West where ethical limits are mostly set by religious fundamentalists. Over here in Europe it's mostly atheist secular humanists and environmental organizations.

>>8364209
good job not answering the question
damn eurofags

>>8364100
think about black poverty.

Why are we researching genetics when black america is still underprivileged!

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>ethics

Those are defined by an individual or group. Not by humanity as a whole and never will.

Burn the weak.
Make the strong into your slaves.
The end always justifies the means.

>>8364124
>if i'm ugly everyone should be
communist logic

>>8364209
>Hurr Americans are so dumb because they let Christians hold them back not unlike us Europeans who let cultural Christians hold us back
I should start learning Chinese.

>>8364062
so is imperialism. white boy.

>>8364085
attractive is subjective. latinos will be a new fad in the coming years.

>tfw i can't play god yet until i graduate

>>8364672
It's not though.

There are formulas for what is attractive.

>>8364689
In this landscape of special flavoured retards you couldn't anyway because anything you try will fly over their head and with that mental tuning of yours i really doubt you actually care for doing stuff like that anyway.

>>8364734
yikes, the projection

that's what
>biology
is, in any practical sense
aspiration 2 undastan n concah gawds domane

who's god anyway?

- different poster

>>8364006
>>8364062
>>8364085
>It might lead to more intelligent, healthy, or attractive humans.

Go 20 seconds of the way in to this video and tell me if you hear yourself talking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaCHBmGWcBc

>>8364734
>special flavoured retards

lol @ "special flavoured retards"

You must be British.

Just don't have children before 10-15 years from now

Imagine having a natural child and then 5 years later you could have given him more intelligence and health. How would you explain it to him?

>>8364006
This guy needs an armed security detail to protect him from Muslims and Christians.

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>>8364239

>>8365271
>How would you explain it to him?
There is nothing to explain.

>>8365322
>dad, why did you give me an existence as a brainlet when you could have done otherwise? Do you know I'm gonna die at 70 because of the predisposition for cancer in our family? Do you know I'll be going bald at 35?

>>8364720
>there are formulas
Which ones?

>>8365436
>you see son, I was hoping you'd be less of an emotionally unstable faggot about when that dumb slut and I decided to have you. Your little brother is better and that's just how it is. Now shut up and go to your labor work while your brother attends private school off of your wages.

>>8365436
Insecurity the post. The majority of people are brainlets including you.

>>8365578
exactly, and that's fine. But in a world where MANY people (and not only a few geniuses like today) will start to be 2x intelligent, you don't want to be left behind.

playing god sounds fun

>>8365465
Symmetry
How close to average it is

etc

Beauty is not something magical. It's an intuition into healthy genes.

>>8364006
>tfw I first read "Swedish Scientist is eating healthy Human Embryos
Disappointing

>>8365609
>symmetry
>etc
What is etc?

>>8365280
this tbqhh religious people are mentally unstable and shouldn't be allowed to work in scientific institutions.

>>8365588
>>>/r9k/

>>8364062
>Unethical.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih_l0vBISOE

Please provide a logical argument proving that it is unethical.

>>8365588
this

>>8364100
>What exactly makes this unethical?
Gattaca

So, what are the bets on China's first human trials?

Yes, hes studying how to turn them gay or black.

>>8364006

> Swedish Scientist is editing healthy Human Embryo

Is he trying to genetically engineer Muslims?

>>8366481
This movie is becoming a worse meme than Idiocracy.

>>8364085

The problem is that intelligence, health, and attractiviness are not intrinsically valuable.

We will just end up with a society of shallow autists for excel at IQ tests, live for 500 years consuming resources while not keeping up with progress enough to make themselves useful, and not being any more attractive than before because attractiveness is relative (while paying a higher price to maintain the now higher bar for being regularly attractive).

>>8364006
What software program is that?

>>8367756
queer and mixed :^)

>fat, ugly, dumb and poor people reproduce like hell
>'but its muh right'
>'but its natural/muh god'
>'but who will care for me when I'm old? (even though I'll die with 65 anyway lol)'
>'m-muh child will make it'

>successful people realize it's useless
>some decide to artificially create a life which is probably better to live
>'immoral'
>'against nature/god'
>'edgy/will grow up'

Getting a child is in itself immoral and unethical. Forcing a peaceful lump of biomass to endure the pain of existence only because of your own selfish reasons. If strawman doesn't apply, go along.

>>8369082
there's satan in that DNA cloning machine

>>8369059
>autismos gain power
>normies get wiped out
>population sinks
>full automation of shit jobs
>people stop living in deserts
>anime industry booming
>global well-being for everyone achieved
>life's too perfect
>autismos get bored
>genetically engineer dumb humans
>won't get bored in perfect world
>literally normie heaven that they left behind
>normies settle in shit countries again
>multiply again
>terrorism instead of waifu wars
>autismos die out
>society crumbles
>all-out war
>start anew

>>8369154
>anime industry booming
Stop reading there.

>>8369162
Sounds like you're the first to be wiped out

This is nice and all, but when are we going to get rid of ageing?

>>8369530
when aubrey de grey gets the 50 M he needs to make a proof of concept on humans

unfortunately most rich people would rather buy a 50 M boat and die of aging

ooh yea boiiii new age of alchemy incoming

>>8369134
And there's Satan in my trips.

>>8369530
Some scientist already modified herself with some lobster genes or some shit
So we just have to wait.

>>8370317
[citation needed]

>>8370397
It's happening all over. I can cite a harvard phd talking about. People in the field are already experimenting with gene therapy on themselves.

>>8370508
[citation still needed]

>>8370542
George Church
Harvard conference
Forbidden Research

past that go fuck yourself because it would take me just as long to googlefu find the seminar videos as you. I know the entire talk is on youtube somewhere in a 8+ hour long video. Just match it up with his allotted speech time

>>8364062
There is literally nothing unethical about this

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>>8364062
Ethics is just some arbitrary framework of opinions. Fuck ethics.

>>8370689
Ethics is low IQ liberals wanting to control STEM.

>>8367754
They are already doing that.
http://www.nature.com/news/chinese-scientists-genetically-modify-human-embryos-1.17378
http://www.nature.com/news/second-chinese-team-reports-gene-editing-in-human-embryos-1.19718

>>8370689
Science is an arbitrary framework of opinions.

>>8364189
They already let out one paper on goats with hypertrophy. Seemed to show some pretty promising results.

>>8369530
It doesnt work like that. Evolution doesnt select traits that give benefits at older ages because most living beings die by natural causes and not due to old age. So we need to make those genes ourselves, which is really hard because they have to integrate on the body phisiology.
Also, cell oxidation.

>>8364062
shut up, this is for the greater good

>>8364100
The problem is that you can't even work with embryos because that triggers everyone.
With the left is "muh feels"
With the right is "muh soul"
Fucking hell.

>>8370397
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/542371/a-tale-of-do-it-yourself-gene-therapy/

>>8371421
I was thinking of the august trials on lung cancer patients, since now we also understand CRISPR better

>>8364062
First post bait post

>>8369067
Kerbal Space Program

>>8364100
That's not "not giving a shit about ethics", it's having ethics that actually make sense.

>>8370397
>>8370542
The trailing end of his alimentary canal.