I FUCKING HATE BEGGARS

You're not very bright are you?

Giving to people in need is the right thing to do.

>>38678502
Social services are actually pretty shitty.

I worked in a retirement community and talked with a semi-retired social services worker every once in awhile.

The bureaucratic shit that goes on would make your head swim. Services are basically rationed out. The agencies have targets just like any other organization. Some social workers will get a stack of apps and deny housing applications because someone owns a car.

They're full of roasties and the petty BS that goes on in some of these offices is just nuts.

>>38678538
Why should I care about some disgusting crazy hobo who hopped on a bus from who knows where so he could loiter outside the gas station and yell "can you spare a dollar" every time I walk past. Its not like helping people in your family or "community," these are just invaders coming to be lazy leeches and shit up the city with their presence. If people in hobo-magnet cities had a hivemind and decided to never give food or money to beggars, they would stop pouring in like flies eating shit and eventually go away.

>>38678502
I never give money to beggars because they all ended up there because they're human trash who burned all their bridges with people by being self destructive cunts

They're all druggies, alcoholics and/or violent morons.

>>38678502
>hates beggars
>begs for pussy online and irl from girls who are disgusted by him
You think you'd get the irony and hypocrisy but it seems like you don't

I don't mind giving homeless people some money if they're my fellow men, it's a good deed.
Gypsies and niggers can fuck right off though.

>>38678873
thieves and beggars are different things my man

>>38679000
Unless you're a rapist there was no need to bring thieves up you mongoloid

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>>38678502
Its all about perspective. When people do not understand, or do not relate, they will generalize. This goes for literally any type of person. You cannot relate or self insert yourself as a homeless, therefor you assume they are "human scum"
You honestly sound like a spoiled brat who lives inside of a bubble.

They do that dog thing here in Melbourne, Australia too. There was a film made about some famous homeless guy in the UK who got famous with some dog, maybe that's what spread this thing.

Anyway giving to beggars is actually bad for the poor anyway because it allows institutional economic inequality to continue. Homeless people should be SOCIETY'S problem - so if there's any genuine reason for them to be homeless, giving them a few bucks just undermines this.

Here in Australia anyone who's genuinely homeless can simply walk into a homeless shelter, get clean showers and sleep in a warm bed, and also get free mailing boxes to start the process towards getting on Centrelink where you'd have enough money to cheat a room or if in the outer suburbs a house and buy enough to eat. That's my understanding anyway, am I wrong?

Idk, I think they have a right to be an eyesore. Their contrast with the multi-billion dollar generating Starbucks/ Apple stores/ H&Ms of major metropolises helps enlighten the economic depravities of our time. Unless of course you're a troglodyte consumerist on which all socioeconomic concepts are wasted on.

>>38679135
>of our time
kek do you think there has ever been a time where this wasn't the case? it's the best it's ever been, if anything

>>38679076
yeah, meth heads shaking down passerbys aren't all the same, some of them like classical music and others are actually really good homemakers

in a developed country the only thing keeping someone on the streets aside from mental illness is being either lazy or exploitative .
You sound like you haven't been in a city before, but trust me man, put a camera on these fucks and get the real story of their lives and see how many people toss them money.

>>38678502
The worst part is that some of them aren't actually homeless. I'm from Massachusetts, and the state has a pretty bad opiate problem. I have complete degenetates in my family who go around Boston LARPing as homeless beggars so that they can get drug money. It's the most subhuman and degenerate shit I've ever seen, and I'm glad I haven't had talked to them in a couple years.

Yes op, you are a very edgy and cool person for being completely devoid of empathy for those who are clearly worse off than you are.

How is this even a big enough issue for you that you felt the need to make a thread about it? Just ignore them if it pisses you off so much, ffs.

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>>38678502
>Don't give to beggars

I live in Los Angeles too, what do you think about giving bus fare to a guy who just got out of prison? I gave a dude my tap card once and he was ecstatic.

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>>38679076
>be rich yuppie
>pass by a hobo on the way to chic tapas bar from my UberLUX
>feel sad and compassionate, give him 5 dollars

--------
>be local resident
>walk though the city
>see hundreds of hobos begging
>they follow and harass you
>see the same bums day after day just loitering around
>smells like piss and shit everywhere
>can't walk out of any store without being stared at intently and yelled at asking for money
>can't take public transit anymore because the aisles are blocked with trash bags and seats smell like hobo ass

I'd only buy some food if beggar would ask me. I dont give spare change as they'll buy booze/drugs with it. Besides when i say " i could buy a bread or sausage", they say "can you give me money instead".

>>38679264
>can't take public transit anymore

lying nigger, fuck off. There is no usable public transit here.

>>38679145
In the US the early 1960's were the best times, economically speaking. Average wages were relatively high, CEO wages relatively low, and costs of living relatively low. Since the 1970's costs of living have skyrocketed while average income has either stagnated or declined. So yes, in terms of economic inequality and costs of living modern times are unparalleled in history and you are clearly wrong.

>>38679252
Don't they give you $10 after you are released from prison?

Anyways I just ignore people, human spam, IRL pop-up blocker on. Its much easier and safer to just not look at or say anything to a beggar than to say no.

>>38679264
xd I dont feel sympathy, richfags should honestly be culled. If you dont like the growing degeneracy problem how about you jews distribute your wealth. If I saw a hobo stabbing you on the street I would look the other way, they would probably be more grateful than you cucks would ever be

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>>38679295
>There is no usable public transit here.
yuppie scum detected

>>38679310
gee, thanks Mac

op is an asshole and this thread is bad.

>>38679309
$10 is nowhere near enough for anything nowadays.

A fucking day bus pass is $7 and I'm positive a guy just out of prison wants to eat something decent.

>>38679295
If you're talking about LA, that is something I hear often both IRL and online, yet there is bus service everywhere, and 6 train lines which are being expanded.

>>38679392
Have you ever walked through Downtown LA, New York, or Portland?

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>>38679491
>walk through downtown LA
>see homeless people suffering all around me
>"wow, this is mildly inconvenient to me for some reason. I should complain about this on an imageboard full of socially inept retards who can definitely relate and aren't more concerned with bigger issues in their own lives."

>>38679647
you look at the rich and you think "wow, they worked hard and they deserve what they got"
you look at the homeless and you don't

>>38679686
I actually don't do either of these things because I'm not hyper-focused on superficial external bullshit like whether or not someone deserves to be rich because they worked hard, or deserves to be homeless and suffering

your move, faggot.

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>>38679647
Those homeless people should be institutionalized or deported, not my problem that LA decides to spend tax money on being a sanctuary city rather than building and staffing mental hospitals and doing homeless sweeps nightly.

>>38678502
Social services are hard to get on idiot.

Murika is too afraid of being socialist, and of atheistic sloth as well, to let you get on it. It takes three or more years to get on section eight for instance. Takes years to get on SSI.

And they try to boot you off of foodstamps as of 2016 after three months all over the US now too.

There's not much available; even the shelters cost money and no one hires a homeless person.

Richfaggots need to be banned by poorfaggot mods already. I'm still pissed off from the last room threads that were posted. You could go buy yourself a nice life RIGHT NOW but instead you shitpost.

Kill yourself I am BEGGING YOU

>>38679686
>you look at the rich and you think "wow, they worked hard and they deserve what they got"
lol

>>38679720
hmm, how does one argue with virtue signalling?

If you have never pondered causality in your surrounding world then my move would be to move on to somebody with greater awareness than a rock.
If a man's means to live is superficial external bullshit to you I can't imagine which Nirvana album you think really matters.

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>>38679770
>being somewhat interested in people as individuals and not judging them solely on whether they're rich or poor is virtue signalling

wew lad

every statement is virtue signalling in 2017

>>38679823
you realize we are talking about the homeless right?
if you are saying that you are interested in an unwashed junkie sitting on the street corner and ignore the fact that they live by begging people for beer money you are either a liar or virtue signalling. Well I suppose you could also be retarded, but I'm not an optimist.

>>38678502
>Social services exist to feed and house the poor and homeless, yet every time I go outside in Los Angeles I see literally hundreds of them begging for money
And how many of these homeless people without government support are men compared to women?
Wake up moron, "social services" only gives a shit about women, men are secondary and get jack shit.

They wouldn't be there if the government gave them anything, but they aren't.

>>38679851
>homeless can't find ways to wash
>buying beer/drugs is a bad thing in any way
>virtue signalling now is meaningless because it's been memed
Not him by the way.

People don't get washed up because they literally try to arrest people for washing in sinks, rather than having the janitor prove that he actually does his job rather than pretends to wash the rooms.

Only the unfortunate need artificial happiness, and that makes the statistics of it causing homelessness a two way street, they do it because they can't succeed possibly more often than fail due to the meme word addiction.

Having no virtue means I slit your neck rather than ask you for money, in such a cruel world. You like virtue. Homeless people are hated by the government because you don't know where to find them to arrest them if they did slit your throat for your cash. If they were that greedy they wouldn't be homeless though, and a man with a tie would sonner kill them than they would a rich guy.

>>38680117
a rich guy contributes to society. Anyone who wouldn't sooner kill the leech either has a chip on their shoulder or doesn't value society.
Virtue signalling is mostly a hand wave to things you don't want to address, but this is a legitimate case of a guy pretending they are non-judgemental of something you can notice two doors down and are definitive of the person.
I don't blame the mentally ill ones, but as a caveat I don't consider addiction as part of that category even though they do fall into it. Saying they are living like that in pursuit of artificial happiness is a sob story, let them live to avoid real sorrow like the rest of us.

>>38680209
>a rich guy contributes to society
Like hell they do. Janitors are more useful than the vast majority of men with nice cars and suits.

You don't understand society or else you'd value it less for it being built on lies.

If you want to blame mental illness, realise that there is NO SUCH THING AS CHOICE, due to nature and nurture making you who you are.

Ignoring that lots of people have real sob stories doesn't change the fact that they do. Literally over 90 percent of the homeless have sob stories, and literally over 90 percent of the men with ties grew up in middle class houses, rather than trailers and broken homes.

>>let them live to avoid real sorrow like the rest of us
The REST of us huh? Because you're jealous of homeless people? Idiocy. Go try it, if you dare to deal with YOUR KIND harassing them in order to try to keep people from being lazy, due to jealousy. Go do drugs rather than be a tyrannical cunt, and quit your job, to realise that you were the problem and they weren't actually the ones bothering the fortunate.

>>38680672
do you know how capital works?
do you... lit-literally know how the world works my man?

I'm not jealous of the homeless, but life is not the pursuit of happiness it is the avoidance of pain. That's how shit gets done. If we all kicked our feet up and held our hand out we'd need drugs because society would fall apart.
Yes, I'll take off my tie, hit the streets and then it will dawn on me, the innocent layabout was really the virtuous, productive, harassed one who didn't want anything (see everything) handed to them while they sipped gasoline while their dogs starve.

>>38678502
How hard can it be to ignore? I live nowhere near homeless but there's fucking cow shit smell everywhere

>>38678502

No one in their right mind nowadays gives alms. But complaining about them won't magically get them off the streets.

The proper approach is to provide aid to facilities or organizations that work to reintegrate them into society by retraining them to be functional/productive people. Don't help those that merely give out food, money or clothes.

Homeless people should be issued weapons and sent to the suburbs desu

>>38680872
If they were eating bullets I'd gladly help them get their next meal.

>>38680730
>controlling capital is work
Ha good one anon, that's funny.

>>38680730
Not that guy but congrats on lapping up that bourgeois propaganda you fucking bootlicker

>>38680910
ahhh yessss, that crazy middle class propaganda that the man who doesn't contribute shouldn't eat

>>38678502
>Social services exist to feed and house the poor and homeless, yet every time I go outside in Los Angeles
>I see literally hundreds of them begging for money. Many of these are mentally ill, drug addicts, illegal immigrants or criminals with warrants,
> and the rest are just exploiting people's misplaced sense of compassion
>don't give to beggars
Your next line is
>"they should hurry up and die and decrease the surplus population "
The fact is there are not enough social services for the homeless, so DONT ACT LIKE THEY HAVE A CHOICE NOT TO BE THERE.
I actully hate the homeless too, makes downtown Los Angeles impossible, but they will always be around. They stay in Los Angeles a lot because it doesn't rain much and don't freeze, so easier to sleep outside.
Remember "They Live", /pol/s favorite, was filmed in a real tent city.
>>38679295
Out of touch yuppie detected, I took the public transit to work for 10 years in Los Angeles, we even have a subway nowadays you know.

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>>38681210
Forgot my RP pic

>>38680930
Frank: I have a wife and kids in Detroit. I haven't seen them in 6 months. Steel mills were laying people off left and right. They finally went under. We gave the steel companies a break when they needed it. Know what they gave themselves? Raises. The Golden Rule: He who has the gold, makes the rules. They close one more factory we should take a sledgehammer to one of their fancy fuckin foreign cars.
Nada: You know. You ought to have a little more patience with life.
Frank: Yeah, well I'm all out!
Frank: The whole deal is like some kind of crazy game. They put you at the starting line. And the name of the game is make it through life. Only, everyone's out for themselves and looking to do you in at the same time. OK, man here we are. You do what you can, but remember, I'm going to do my best to blow your ass away. So how are you going to make it?
Nada: I deliver a hard day's work for my money I just want the chance. It'll come. I believe in America. I follow the rules. Everybody's got their own hard times these days.
...
..
You are nada, you aren't woke yet son

Female Interviewer: Last place of employment?
Nada: Denver, Colorado. I worked there for ten years and things just seemed to dry up. They lost fourteen banks in one week. So, well...
Female Interviewer: There's nothing available for you right now.

Bearded Man: They are dismantling the sleeping middle class. More and more people are becoming poor. We are their cattle. We are being bred for slavery.

>>38678502
>Social services exist to feed and house the poor and homeless
you aren't this naive, anon

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Frank: What do these things want?
Gilbert: They're free-enterprisers. The earth is just another developing planet. Their third world.
.

Television Host: The feeling is definitely there. It's a new morning in America... fresh, vital. The old cynicism is gone. We have faith in our leaders. We're optimistic as to what becomes of it all. It really boils down to our ability to accept. We don't need pessimism. There are no limits.
.
Keep hating the poor middle class tools, while they laugh all the way to the bank

Here in Utah, we have a huge synthetic opiate problem. All the homeless smoke that shit. I died off that shit once, it's a complete mind fuck and the withdrawals are equivalent to heroine. I see people beg on the street, only to buy 5 jars of spizz. It negates the need for sleep, food, and it gives you a sense that heroine does "I'm on top of the world" the homeless here are drug addicts and hustlers. Give them food not money.

>>38678502
Maybe if you country wasn't a shithole you wouldn't have your streets littered with the homeless?
>"Fuck fixing the problem, get rid of the end result!"

>>38678538
los angeles beggars aren't people in need though, theyre just losers who set the bar that low for themselves

>>38681359
>give them food not money
Name your child tyranny please.

>>38679647
>walk through downtown LA
>just visits the zoo instead of living in the exhibit
hello yuppie

>>38681396
Why is that?

Giving the homeless money gives them free will to buy drugs and continue their situation. Why not give them a clothing voucher for the local donation center? Or a food voucher? Why would giving money to an irresponsible person be anything remote to wise

>>38681433
Why not employ the homeless to do tasks fitting their prior education / experience and provide them with running water, heat and temporary housing so they can learn to take care of themselves and get back on their feet?

>>38681262
Huh... Frank has a job in that movie though doesn't he?

I dunno, try some lines from Suburban Commando, or Mr.Nanny. Maybe a leg drop will woke me to your 4:20 ancap bullspit.

>>38681262
>>38681276
>>38681292
>>38681327
instead of falling for middle class fuckhead pieces who cherry pick for nice framed images of what you think homeless people are like, why dont you actually go to skid row and check it out

these are people who DONT CARE. they dont WANT the responsibility of having a house. there are people in this world, i know its hard for your mind to understand, who are CONTENT with being poor and leeching off others

>>38681457

It's called the housing program

Atleast here in Utah. There are certain qualifications such as being able to keep a job. It kind of seems self defeating. There is also a homeless shelter here called the roadhome, it reeks of bo and people are selling little Debbie snacks by the entrance like it's jail or something. They're all doomed repeat offenders.

homeless people deserve to suffer, they're all a bunch of hyperaggressive unpredictable pieces of shit with gay tattoos
fucking faggots dude, they're such faggots, they manage to have such big egos despite being total retards who can't do anything for themselves

>>38681464

I couldn't say that better. Some people prefer no responsibility what so ever so they can continue jacking themselves off and using

>>38681492
>Make a mistake
>Get your lawful punishment + a marking in your registry preventing you from being employed
>Attempt to find honest work to sort yourself out
>Fail because of the mark
>Starve or do more crimes
"Why don't people learn from their past mistakes"
"Just get a job"
"They shouldn't have made a mistake in the first place, they deserve to be stuck in a infinite loop of crime, jail, crime"
All hail American justice system

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>>38681359
>I died off that shit once,
FUCKING ZOMBIES GET THE FUCK OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>38678538
>the moral choice is the logical choice
Putting your money in places you know isn't going to be utilized well is bad investing. None of these people that exclusively beg on the streets are doing it to save up and be better, it's to continue surviving as a begger and enable their lifestyle, not to mention there's been a growing trend in working citizens and tourists putting on the act to exploit your good intentions. Don't fall for charity.
>>38679076
Some of my good friends were homeless for a month or two and I would have gladly housed them if I was able to at the time. The difference is that they were kicked out of home after school and they spent all their free time looking for employment. One of them even had to turn down an offer because they would only mail him his checks and he had no home address at the time, but both managed to do it and live on their own now. If people want it bad enough, they'll do it.

>>38681571

It's very true.
Although there is a certain time period you must wait without committing a crime in order to get it "expunged" 7 years I think. There are a lot of places that will hire the younger population of the homeless, just as long as they aren't violent charges. Old people are fucked.

>>38681571
illegal aliens, druggies and repeat fucking murderer felons get jobs through the government, what mark do you think prevents homeless people from employment

Homeless people cannot be trusted with food stamps either.
>be bum
>get $150 in food stamps from commiefornia government
>can't buy what I really want which is drugs
>buy cases of water bottles
>empty all water into street and take bottles to recycling center for 20 bucks
Actual epidemic

>>38681576

I ordered some shit off a Chinese Chem site and it was a variant of the fub amb strain (indole chain removed) Insta seizure. Would rate 0/10. The synthetic opiates were the shit tho. Too bad u4777 is illegal now.

>>38681636
so thats why there was a nigger outside Vons trying to sell food stamps for half price

>>38681619

How do they get jobs from the government? Enlighten me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY3yzLA-g24

This is the ideal fate of all homeless people, minus the poor doggo.

>>38681653
the same way people think homeless people should be able to get jobs from the government, the only difference between felons etc and chronically homeless is that some people DO NOT WANT to participate in society constructively

there are people who find their tents comfortable enough, these people DO exist

>>38681636
>>38681648

Fug, what would actually work out there, a plain soup kitchen, providing something extremely cheap and nutritional every day, they'd have to bring their own plate/container and absolutely nothing more?

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>>38678502
"See, Champ. That's how you'll end up if you have a weak handshake. You've gotta be assertive, Champ. And the way to do that is to show up, speak with the manager, shake his hand FIRMLY, and tell him you wanna work there."

>>38681653
not him, I presume gov jobs have a non-discrimination policy that since they are also the regulatory body they have to follow.

I imagine a large amount of landscapers are cons. Start a business that has a buy in of a couple hundred dollars

Meh if i am getting tims I'll give a guy some change

>>38681719

Felonies and violent convictions fall under different discriminations. True, you could be a back breaking construction worker tho.

>>38681464
>why dont you actually go to skid row
Nigga I walk through skid row all the time on the way to the flower market, and just becuase homeless put on a front doesn't mean they don't want bettter.
Then you will tell them to go work for 12 hours a day for the amount of money that will make them impoverished and broken and wonder why they aren't grateful for chaingang lifestyle, something you your self would kill yourself before you did it.
>>38681458
The point there is they are looking at the buildings of downtown Los Angeles and nada is going "yeah man if you just work hard and pay your dues you'll be successful " when that is NOT what those buildings are about. And he is so brainwashed he doesn't realize he has been working hard and got fucked over

>>38681686
I think you missed the message of that movie.

>social services work really well
>even the homeless, unemployed and drug addicts can live a normal life
>if you see a beggar, he doesn't really need money
>it's just a part of an isis fundraising
finurando

>>38681697
A savvy bum would just do both, sell/convert his stamps for next to nothing and then go to a free soup kitchen

>>38681262
I saw a play like this based around a steel factory closing in Pennsylvania during the Bush era. Kind of scary how generations of family were committed to wageslaving in one spot and never thought of branching out or starting their own business. No career is ever safe and we should all be wary of jumping ship when the time is right.

>>38681636
How can a robot survive being a bum? Wouldn't that break you out of robot shit

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>>38681733
A piece of advice if you are in Ontario, the Safe Streets Act makes it so you can drop the quarter into a payphone and then drop a dime on that slacker and one of your friendly lawman will swing by and put the boots to his lazy ass.
How'd you feel if the hoser used your toonie to buy a coffee and won a donut. That should be YOUR DONUT. Worse yet if he won something really good like a coffee.

>>38681845

Yea, I was suggesting we're flush foodstamps and kept it strictly to soup kitchens.

>tfw you give a homeless guy money knowing he'll spend it on drugs because withdrawals look shitty
>tfw you get bored and buy some super strength beer and tobacco and sit drinking and smoking with hobos while listening to their weird stories
>tfw smugging at the normalfags who can't comprehend a normal looking person freely associating with hobos
Who here /maverick/

>>38681930
Sounds fun for a day off. Got any cool stories?

>>38681945
If you give them enough rum and then promise them some money they suck your dick without much of a fight. It's not good, but worth a mickey

>>38681909
Thanks for the pic.
In the past year I've given about 4 people at most change so not the biggest issue it's usually 50 cents to a dollar

>>38681965
This turned uninteresting very quickly

>>38681945
One time a guy took me with him while he scored some heroin for himself, there was a girl getting raped (I think) in the next room, he offered to share his heroin with me but I declined for obvious reasons and wished him a good day. Other than that it's either chavs talking about how their dad used to beat them and how they started smack age 14 or terry davis tier schizos telling you all their wacky theories about psychic chinese spys or whatever. I just do it because they normally have more interesting things to say than normal people, if there's one thing a hobo likes more than drugs it's telling you their life story.

>>38681752
>all homeless want, AND are willing to put in the minimum requirement of responsibility, to own a home
>of the millions of people in los angeles, it's unrealistic to expect a couple thousand to have standards this far below yours
wrongo

>>38681872
Robots eventually become bums or normies/trannies, you can only be NEET for so long. either that or an hero

>>38681911
Only soup kitchens would be good, maybe with some of the rest of the money saved you could teach them to read and write. Try and get them back into society

>>38678502
I can't help but give if they ask me but I'm always terrified that if I give them money it will only feed an addiction and add to their misery, at the same time I know that social services won't be able to help everyone and if I pass them up I could have been the one that helped them not go hungry that day. It's an agonizing choice my fellow anons.

>>38682006
Not really maybe it's cause I live in the country but here they all got ssi or welfare and they give you an apartment for like 200 a month

>>38681965
>>38681930
How do you avoid getting the lice and bedbugs and scabies?
I used to see clean cut young white guys going over and sitting with homeless, but it always looked patronizing, so I avoided it, but I always wanted to

ITT moralfags who e never met a homeless person. Are you 10 years old? Do you know anything about the world? Homeless people don't care that they are homeless. 9/10 are addicted to drugs to the point of not even being a functional person and wouldn't quit if they could. Don't believe me? Go talk to one. These people are everywhere and they ruin a lot of shit for everybody else. They deserve no sympathy. You would understand if you felt with them on a consistent basis.

>>38682042
>he thinks most homeless people are illiterate
Top wew, normalfags truly are out of touch with the plight of the lower classes

>>38682077
Drugs aren't misery dudes suffer so god damn much and when I smoke pot it's the only time I laugh and smile and feel good

I swear if I had unlimited pot I'd have a good job 6 figures a perfectly clean house and all my shit together

Chester Bennington killed himself agter sobriety

>>38681965
Well that got gay pretty fast.

>>38682108
I don't know what to tell you, it's not like I fucking hug or wrestle with them or whatever, the thought of catching a disease never even crossed my mind.

>>38681911
>>38682042
Not everyone lives in a nice area. Soup kitchens don't give enough for cal. intake.

>>38678502
>police don't bother them
press [x] to doubt

>>38682130
it always was man, it always was

>>38681992
I guess a lot of them just accept their fate at some point. I actually ran into one crazy homeless guy yesterday I haven't seen in seven years. He used to come to the Rocky Horror midnight shows with a stick and plastic bags, swing it around during the dance, yell that Tim Curry was a bullfrog, and would defend Columbia any time she got harassed. I saw him walking around the theatre still holding his stick and a beard that probably wasn't trimmed since I last saw him.

>>38682117
it's not even about addiction; so many of these are people who have never wanted to keep responsibilities, they have nothing going on in their lives. most people come home after work to do things and spend money on things they want to do, like hobbies, or responsibilities or whatever

imagine this, lots of people have a grandma who cuts out ads from the newspaper to make a collage just because some ads are pretty. now imagine someone with standards for entertainment far far below that. those are who homeless people are

>>38678502
i gave a guy on the freeway a tuna sandwich when he came up to my car. i wonder if he ate it. they were good sandwiches

>>38678502
I live in LA too. If I come across one I'll try to give them some change or give them an extra sandwich or something. I see these guys as the ultimate robot in terms of fucked up scale.

I don't care if they use the money to buy more drugs either. Whatever gives them peace in their lives.

>>38682143
1)
>being a bum burns lots of calories
2)
>it isn't extremely cheap to get a full days worth of calories from fat or grains

>>38679686

>you look at the rich and you think "wow, they worked hard and they deserve what they got"


https://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/7/affluenza_defense_lands_wealthy_teen_in

>Affluenza Defense Lands Wealthy Teen in Rehab After He Kills 4 People in Drunk Driving Accident

>>38682121
Maybe in your country, but in California most can't read or write beyond a 5th grade level

>>38682219
>Maybe in your country, but in California most can't read or write english beyond a 5th grade level
ftfy

>>38682210
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-hobos-gang-verdict-met-20170104-story.html

this one wasn't an accident either, funnily enough

>>3868220
>having to drag your homeless ass into a building and fill up your water in a bathroom

water is heavy unless theyre camping right next to a place where they can freely access it

>>38682219
I think that's pretty much the same for all Californians regardless of economic status t b q h

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>>38682231
thank you original poster

>>38678502
I live in moenchengladbach, Germany, and rode the bus to work for 2 years, my stop was right next to the biggest homeless meeting point in town.

It's all about the way they ask. I'm not giving money to some scary skellington speed addict in his 20's, who gets all aggressive on me. But when some obviously HOMELESS (as in nowhere to go) old dude, sometimes even disabled and with tattered bundeswehr clothing or tattoos asks me for a smoke, and even apologizes and promptly fucks off when I dont have one, you better believe I'm giving him 10 bucks. Veterans, especially older ones, get treated very poorly here, despite what officials want you to believe

>>38682219
>>38682231
Also a problem in Jersey too. My gf has been working in a summer youth program and she's terrified of raising kids here. There were 11 years old that couldn't read and didn't know what a quarter was.

>>38682286
>Veterans get treated very poorly here
they should, they are murderers

>>38682317
DON'T SEND YOUR KIDS TO PUBLIC SCHOOL. They are all fucked unless it is like a 98% white area

>>38682336
Bundeswehr guys see little to no combat action. They're just thrown into some middle eastern sandpit, and told not to die. Most disabled guys simply got their shit fucked up by IED's

And if that was bait and you intended to get me angry over nothing, please dont do that, this board is shit enough as it is

>>38682317
Being Illiterate doesn't guarantee homelessness but unless you are willing to work with your back you're pretty fucked.

>>38682379
we dont need an army. they deserve no compassion for making the world a worse place

>>38682379
He was probably being sincere but failed to realise that most military people sincerely believe they're doing the right thing, although you could argue till the cows come home about whether or not they are

>>38682351
Private isn't too much better with all the hazing and drug use amongst students. I'd already have my family stand out being new money if I could afford it.
>>38682388
There's one old guy who works the cash register at my town diner that can't do basic math and dropped out of high school, but his brother is the owner so he's been safe the last few decades.

>that fucker who sits everyday outside the grocery store or next to the ATM

I hate those fucks trying to be smartasses.

Have you seen the ones with the bunnies? They have 2 bunnies and the box says pet them for some change..

Who is going to take care of the bunnies you scum?

>>38682286
even in homeless society there should be ORDNUNG

>>38682209
>walking everywhere doesn't burn calories
>shivering in the cold doesn't burn lots of calories

>eating nothing but soup won't give you the shits to the point of rectal ulcers

>>38682219
Yes, because people gave the homeless IQ tests. Sure.

>>38682757
this poster is correct, most homeless are actually just lazy geniuses

>>38682567
Just feed them grass and water mainly. Give them wood to chew on and salt?

>>38678502
beggars are usually just scammers anyway since every citizen are able to get shelter and food from the goverment if they truly are homeless.

My family has been poor since we came from a farming family which all lived on the same farm, but because of welfare and social services our family was able to split up and live their own lives. Still poor but if it wasn't for the goverment we would probably still live on that tiny farm or be homeless

>>38682757
>los angeles
>50f at night in the winter
>shivering
what makes people feel the need to make shit up on behalf of others

>>38682779
It's got to do with willpower and making good choices, of which comes from good habits learned from a good upbringing, choices. The willpower has to do with good diet, low stress levels to a point, good dna, but IQ has little to do with being homeless, pampered downies can get jobs. It's the broken home that causes them to learn bad behavior. It goes hand in hand with poverty, and poverty goes hand in hand to homelessness. IQ be damned. Laziness is a christfaggot tier meme. Fuck your sloth bullshit.

>>38682819
no sorry, functional citizens who are just on hard times don't qualify as "poor homeless". you have to be actually incapable of being a decent person to deserve pity

>>38682828
That's why they move to LA, to not freeze to death.

Other areas have homeless people too, I didn't mean LA. As I said>>38682143 not everyone lives in a nice area.

America's social saftey net is poorly managed and often times very underfunded.

>>38682861
>though shalt not kill
>uhhhmm excuse me but that is pretty problematic, what if I need to eat??

well, let's just throw the basis of western values out the window, not a biggie

>>38682893
>thou shalt not kill
As if religious people follow that rule. The bibles actually tell you to kill faggot. Burn non-believers, homos, witches, let bastards starve, just because le god said so kill, they do it all the time.

Western values are for shit and always have been.

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>>38679135
So deep
Have an upboat

>>38679823
Didn't you know? Every single behavior he doesn't like is virtue signalling. I once saw a young man on /pol/ (who worked in the produce section of a grocery store) say that hipsters buying exotic fruits is virtue signalling

>>38679145
>best it's ever been
Like he said, back when we were having that left winger revolution (before right wingers sent the atheistic lefts to their deaths) we had the highest standard of living.

>>38682948
Said the guy that didn't even post a chan file name.

Kill self baka. If you want to belong here try being more redpilled than sociopathic for the sake of being sociopathic.

Story time. I don't live in US, so I don't know how the situation works around there, but I met a couple homeless blokes around half a year ago. It was my birthday and I left home because I didn't want to deal with people who were gonna come, sit around my house and eat my food, was just walking around town and had nowhere to go. Out of the blue, a couple guys, both Russian (I live in a former USSR country), pull up to me and give me their sob story. The one talking to me had, like, three teeth total and the other looked like Stephen Merchant. They pretended to be brothers, or half-brothers, I don't remember the details. Three Teeth was supposedly trying to make amends with his mother he left decades ago and was trying to find her but constant search left him penniless and now he was begging on the streets for a comfy night's sleep (it was winter).
I said I don't have anywhere to go either and gave him a bit of money. A lot of money, actually, considering where I live. I couldn't return home at the time so I started walking with them; pretty soon I found out that the sob story the gave me turned out to be, surprise-surprise, a sham. We also met their friend, another homeless dude, who was native to the country, and went to one of the biggest malls around here to do our thing.
They made some money in the few hours we were there. About 20% of what is considered to be a decent monthly wage Merchant was able to gather in a few hours just by talking to people and making a sad face. We couldn't find Three Teeth - he turned up hours later and didn't have any money because the retard tried to buy meth from Czechs or gypsies or whatever the fuck, and they just took his money and split. Native was really angry about it. He was angry about everything, really, even though it was Merchant who actually pulled any money while Native was just smoking cigarettes with me and complaining about how the rest of the gang sucks.

I'm gonna continue, post limit.

>>38682965
if you don't think saying the begging junkies on the street are the same as normal people is an insincere display of compassion you are delusional

>>38682990
>hating people because they're not normal
Not them but >>>/out/

>>38680730
see: >>38680910
wat a pathetic cuckold

>>38683047
you have a job, son or are you still waiting for other people to seize the means of production?

>>38682990
if you don't think you're virtue signalling and should stop posting you are delusional

>>38683055
work as a policy analyst for my state after being unemployed for 1 year after college f4m. taking care of it as we speak

>>38682984
Somewhere along the way they found out it was my birthday and bought me a beer. All of us had, like, one bottle, but Three Teeth and Merchant somehow managed to get piss drunk from it. They also found out I had some drugs in my pocket and got high.
We went to a cybercafe: turns out, they spend most of their nights in one of those because renting a room is more expensive and cybercafes have nice comfy chairs. The ones they favored were packed though so we settled for a hostel. One small room, one small bed, TV out of, like, the 60s.
I left them in the morning. They found me on the local Facebook and in about a week I met Merchant again. Turns out he gave the other two the finger and was now flying solo and dealing meth on the side, but after I saw what kind of money these guys were making, I kind of wanted to get in on this. We went begging together the next evening, got quite a lot despite him spending more than half the earnings on beer and drugs. The guy was really crafty with the way he approached people, and really cheeky, too. Started pretended to film people on my phone and told them he was gonna put them on YouTube or whatever, and everyone wants to look good, right? So they gave us cash. Every once in a while we would barge in into a cafe or a restaurant and he would try to make the manager give us free shit. No one did, but that didn't stop him from trying.
I met him a few times later. He "borrowed" a sizable sum off of me, last time I saw him he lived in a nice flat in a somewhat decent part of town with Three Teeth. He also had a bloodshot eye, his hand was broken in a few places, but he was too high to give a shit. Don't know how he's doing, don't really care.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that beggars don't really have that much problems in their life. Just anecdotal evidence, sure, but these guys were swimming in cash and spending it all on whores, drugs and booze, prioritizing them over fucking shelter in the middle of the winter.

>>38683043
it is not simply that they aren't normal, it is that they are inferior dependent nuisances who ruin the cities

>>38683129
Why did you keep giving the guy money if you knew he would be making more off other people?

>>38683217
Got greedy. I kinda thought I'd be able to make all of it, maybe double that, in a week or so and just gave him bit by bit just so he'd have a reason to keep me around. I changed my mind after I went begging alone for the first time - I made some nice money in just half an hour, but it just wasn't working out for me. I did go busking later with one of my mates later (and from my experience buskers get way, way less money than beggars who actively engage people).

>>38683291
Never heard of the term busker before. What's different about that?

>>38683346
Street artists. Mostly shitty musicians, like me.

>>38682861
We know the root of the problem but how do you suggest we get these people with terrible habits to function in society? Throwing food money at them doesn't seem to work, seems like its just a temporary fix.

>>38683363
Ah, those guys. Only time I ever gave money to one was a guy I saw playing riffs on a saw. He was just wobbling it and using a violin stick against it so I gave him five bucks for legitimately impressing me.

>>38683370
Either rehab to get reeducated on how to properly act or just let them die off. No matter what the system is like, slackers have existed throughout history and if they're not willing to change, they won't improve their situation.

>>38678502
I know people like that. They're stuck in a constant cycle going in and out of social programs, they end up like that because they can't commit to building their life again, for whatever reason. Really they need someone to pull them out from the dirt long enough to see a brighter future, but the state and society can't do that, which is why so many attempt to turn towards religion, which often fails as well.

>>38681814
there was no message, he got away with all of it

>>38683370
>>38683415
>just reraise them all

Fucking moronic to be honest.

>tfw eyes are so dead that no even the homeless ask you for money

>>38684260
How about raising them from the start, child protective services should be swallowing babies like Christopher Reeves.

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>>38684721
Literally impossible. That would be socialist, too much money going into foster care; and that's one of the reasons they attack homeless to begin with (fear of being too red).

Raising a child in an institution would fuck them up anyway, because there's no way you'd want foster parents chasing after all of the new demand for extra money, as foster parents get to have checks for the kids.

You can't fix it. Some get nice families that support them, others don't.

Look at the statistics for children caught too late by foster care also, no one adopts them hardly ever, and those of whom that age out of the system are almost never successful.

t. ex foster child that aged out to move back in with abusive parents rather than be homeless

>>like Christopher Reeves

Eh? Is that a stem cell joke or something?

>ree stem cells not babies faggot REE

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>>38685281
>>38684721
Also adding to my retort.

They like the poor to exist, because they need bitch workers. Sending help to the unfortunate kills the slaves, the criminals meant to be put on community service, euphemism for chain gang, and pic related types. Give them help and there's too many successful. To have the rich you must have the poor robbed (why people like me reee our way into communism).

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>>38678502
OP you sound like a fucking asshole

>>38684260
That's pretty much all you can do. If they can't change their behavior and thinking process, they'll go back to making the same mistakes no matter how much help they get. That's why it's important for parents to actually teach their kids shit instead of ignoring them and leaving it up to the system.

>>38678502
There's a great video on the KFI radio station website showing 2 bicyclists riding through a huge homeless encampment in Anaheim,CA. by the Santa Ana river next to Angel Stadium. It goes on for what seems like miles.

>>38685338
Please give me one example of a commie society without a high rate of poverty.

>>38685435
If all of the first world ones went away and stopped robbing them, maybe they'd be fine.

See how that's relevant to my last post mister elitist?

>>38685406
>all they can do
No, they can put the losers of this modern world that produces ten times as much as it did back when the standard of living was higher, on universal basic income. Socialism. Tax the automated machines to pay for it. Not everyone can be successful, there will be anomalies.

It's worth thinking about that they could be bad eggs, and you can't save them, there's that too. But even though it's literally their fault, that doesn't mean that society changing to take away jobs shouldn't mean that they're really at fault, being a victim of the times and all with outsourcing, of which brings in lots of money to the super rich. Too much.

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>>38678502
>be me, upstanding wagecuck
>have corporate job
>exit out of sushi restaurant
>homeless beggar covered in unsightly tattoos approaches me
>Hobo: "Sir, would you like to make a contribution to ((kids for america))?"
>with this program 25% of the proceeds go toward poor starving orphan kids with AIDs in Darfur
>the rest of the contribution goes to my development fund
>My dream is to become certified as a tatoo artist and eventually open my own tatoo parlour.
>hobo flashes me a big grin, revealing several missing teeth
>Me: That certainly sounds like worthwhile plan.
>I reach for my wallet
>Me: What is your name?
>Hobo: oh my name is Downonhisluck
>Me (holding out some cash): You know what you might consider?
>Try sucking dick for a living. You won't make very much, but at least it's honest.
>I drop the cash on the ground, it's a single $1 bill.
>hobo paws at the cash on the ground
>I drive away in my audi before the subhuman hobo has a chance to attack me

>>38685521
We're already reaching the point where we have too many people and most of our low level work will be automated. We're never going to get back to that time and it's only going to get more problematic from here so these people need to learn to adapt or they won't make it. Even if we could create a basic universal income once people don't have to work, they would still cause problems because their behavior is still geared towards hedonistic values.
>>38685459
No one is left on their own when the whole world is globalized and the ones that have tried staying independent are just starting to fold now. It can't be sustained because of how people behave, between slackers who don't work and fucks that know how to bend the rules in their favor.

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>>38678538
Origami you are wrong senpai.

>>38682982
Nigga, that's how phone-saved images are named.

>>38685659
We already reached the point where the universal basic income should have happened, but they make up jobs to work for intrinsic value. It's not logical and is cruel christfaggot logic.

There is nothing wrong with hedonism. Faggot.

Who cares what they do with the money? Ever heard of freedom?

>left on own
I didn't say that, I said not fuck over. Like murika owing china money for like forever, as an example. Trade but trade FAIRLY. That's something elitists have never been forced to do, so we make five times profit when we outsource, and then end up fucking over china for decades despite under paying them, and they STILL survived.

>people bend the rules
The rich are the ones that make the rules in their favor, that's the real problem. Communism is about equality, fairness.

>>38685876
No they aren't, because only a fucking retard would use a phone, and a double retard would use an apple. Faggot.

>>38685953
>there is nothing wrong with the citizens that are supposed to be working to keep society afloat saying fuck everything and doing things that bring harm to themselves and other
>Communism being fair when literally every single commie society has shown a greater gap between the leaders and the working class to the point of any type of rebellion either has citizens killed on sight or imprisoned
But I'm the faggot, got it. Even with the problems we have with captialism, citizens in America still at least have the opportunity to speak their minds and pick up the pieces themselves to move up the ladder whereas the majority of families in socialist societies stay where they are for generations because they have no way of separating themselves other than marrying up, and even that is met with backlash.

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>>38686129
>>there is nothing wrong with the citizens that are supposed to be working to keep society afloat
They aren't anymore. A tractor does the work of a thousand men, that means some people don't need to be working. Faggot.
>every single commie society
Was sabotaged by right wingers faggot.

>> But Im the faggot
Yes. Yes you are.

>>people can speak their minds
To a certain degree. You can't say anything you want.

Not that you saying things should matter. It's not like the capitalistic government cares about what you've got to say. They care about taking advantage of idiots, learning how to control them by what they say and do, ironically.

Socialism IS the way that we will go, or life will continue to get worse until it is a dystop--

Oh right it already is.

SO CHANGE OVER TO SOCIALISM NOW PLEASE

>mary up
Who gives a shit about christfaggot values. The nuclear family has been dead ever since feminism happened, but the standard of living dropped later, due to outsourcing and automation. Give the people money and the broken homes won't matter anymore.

>>38686258
>mary up*
Skimmed that part of your post due to being triggered.

No one should be able to fight their way to the top anyway. You should be chosen because you're the best, and we should all get paid the same.

E q u a l i t y. Paid the same. They're not doing it right if they need to fight their way up, there's capitalist corruption if that's a problem, by the rich that pretended to help them transition into the fair government. The elitist is the problem. The uprising should consist of fire and beheaded rich people. You can't have the government help you get there. These nations you speak of didn't shed enough blood to fix their problem at the top.

>>38686258
>>38686349
I think you have a severe lack of knowledge of how human behavior works and why socialism is a flawed concept put into action. Humans aren't wired like worker ants that just drone for food and nothing else. You also can't have an equal society run by a government because that's already a separation of power, but a large group of people with no leadership are not likely to last long together. The best form of society involves a mix of values, not a strict capitalist or socialist society. But I guess that's hard to comprehend for a burnout like you because the only people who ever chime your message are bitter stoners that do nothing but blame others for their own problems.

>>38678502
>Social services exist to feed and house the poor and homeless
You never volunteered at a shelter have you?
Those services are so over logged even if your name was on a list they are going to house minority women with kids well before a young man or and old man.
Dumb ass.

>>38679309
>Don't they give you $10 after you are released from prison?
He thinks people get an allowence HA.
No you get what you had when you entered prison.
>>38679279
>"can you give me money instead".
>be homeless
>cost some money to rent a bed or take a bus.
>here have some food.
>Stores wont let me shit or piss in the bathroom because if you are homeless you HAVE to be a junkie.
>No I dont want food because then I would have to shit and I cant use the stores thanks to junkie.
>WOW LIKE I CANT EVEN FUCKING HOMELESS SCUM.
>but dude I can use public restrooms unless I buy something.
>NO YOU MUST BE A JUNKIE.
I hate this site and the losers who browse.
Go be homeless and try using a public bathroom.
>Source? I was homeless and had to poop inna dumpster.

>>38680209
>a rich guy contributes to society.
>have money and never spend it.
>Good for society.
Again all of you are assholes but enjoy the NEET bucks and Wage cucking.

>>38678538
And how the fuck you determine those ine need?
A LOT of those "beggars" are scammers that should be gassed.

Only thing you should give those fuckers is food, if they decline/complain they're scammers and you should be able to shoot them, I hate them so much.

>>38680730
>while they sipped gasoline while their dogs starve.
Nice imaginary homeless person.
What fucking homless person huff gas you fucking aussie bogan cunt?\
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYFeY2pS0ks
Yes I fucking hate vice.

>>38686739
>>Source? I was homeless and had to poop inna dumpster.
I was homeless for three years in NYC (also a heroin addict, so...) Never pooped in a dumpster, only behind them. Dumpsters are for food.

>>38686568
>severe lack of knowledge on human behavior
No I don't, you're just afraid of change because you made it, and so you don't want it flipped so that I can be the one to make it. It's that simple. You have too much and I have too little. Of course, humans are inherently greedy, and always want more, so you don't want equality because it won't seem fair to you, because you're losing and I'm gaining and I'm already allegedly used to it. I understand human behavior just fine, and you shouldn't have had more than me ever, the next generation should be raised differently and fairly after a revolution, and people that cannot accept the change need to be killed; of which is why there's so much death around those fully left winger revolutions that people bring up to bash on them. The death toll should have been if anything higher.

And I said I ree my way to commie, I'd be a centrist in a perfect world, with mixed ideologies, but the world jerks right winger too much so I naturally would be one to create balance in such a fascist environment, as this website is of course right winger, by switching over farther and farther left. And my country the US has too much right winger power, it's been shit since about the early 70s. Fuck it all, I'll be jerking uber left ever time I hear someone's right winger bullshit to create balance.

>>38686739
>need to brush teeth
>LE FOOD IS ALL YOU NEED LE FOOD
It's the right winger ethics of the site. They're damned unreasonable.

>>38681262
>Frank: I have a wife and kids in Detroit. I haven't seen them in 6 months. Steel mills were laying people off left and right. They finally
Can Agree Detroit used to have factory jobs up the asshole and now? nothing.
I wonder what changed?

>>38681588
>doing it to save up
Tyrone and cleetus the gangsters play the knock out game and rob every dollar dollar bill son away from you.
Bam, back to square one.
Now what faggot?

>>38681636
>>empty all water into street and take bottles to recycling center for 20 bucks
Thats like five cents a can...Plastic isnt something you get cash for...Well not alot.
>Bottle picking since 14.
You guys are such faggots.
Landscaping would be WAY more profitable.
SO would drug dealing.

>>38678502
Fuck beggars. I live in California too anon. Here's my experience
>Going to work
>I do deliveries
>Leave phone on counter in store
>Some homeless guy outside steals it
>I call him out
>He has this huge fucking pitbull which could probably tear me to shreds in an instant and he says something along the lines of if you get any closer I'll let my dog attack you I didn't steal your phone
>Fucking faggot
>get coworker to call my cell
>Hear it ringing in his pocket
>He fucking bolts
How the fuck can some fucking homeless faggot own a huge ass killing machine but I can't buy a fucking gun to defend myself and my property? I fucking hate this shitty state. Shitty jobs, obscene property values, obscene rent, THE WORST FUCKING WEATHER unless you are some fucking normalfag who goes swimming or goes to the beach or something. Santa Monica is full of homeless faggots because it's so damn close to the ocean which means climate control.

>>38687145
I'm not even going to go through all this gibberish. You're definitely delusional and I wouldn't doubt you're an addict of some kind. For the sake of humanity, please clean yourself up and never reproduce.

>>38681636
It's not an epidemic. To get on it you have to be poor, why do you care what they spend their small amount of money on?

Also this guy >>38687266 is correct about it not being enough money bakayaroo.

>>38687225
>not stashing your money off somewhere secret or using it to get yourself somewhere safer
>not having or making anything ready to defend yourself with in case something happens
If you can't be resourceful, you'll never get out.

>>38687272
Dog could have been a wild pup or escaped from the shelter. But yeah, hope you get out of that shit state. All the metro cities aren't worth it now.

>>38687298
>won't read it
Then fuck you. I'm not on anything faggot. And I dropped out of college at the age of twenty two, long before I had ever been high or even drunk.

The world is just too shit for me to participate in it. The rules are fucked up. Addict shouldn't even be an insult. It's a personality issue for lots of people, they would fail no matter what they do.

>>38687341
Because welfare programs are paid for by taxpayers so the beneficiaries trying to take advantage of the system to sustain their bad habits means we're enabling them. They don't have the mindset to change so why would they do anything different?

>>38687394
I am not confused on how he obtained and cares for the dog, but rather why he is allowed to have that dog. It's the equivalent of renting a fucking K9 unit.

>>38682117
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBwwmIkmZXo
There you go try this youtube channel.

>>38687396
Kek, you sound like my ex roommate after one of his coke binges. Have fun pretending your own problems aren't your fault, but I'm going to get back to work now.

>>38682190
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qI0EmfnsgM
Sounds like such a fucking unimaginative prick eh?

>>38682240
>too poor to afford food.
>yet somehow can afford "high powered guns"
Call bs on that.

>>38682819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbquG1H0CXQ
Jacob here was in foster care...Im sure he makes bundles scamming old people outta their fat stacks.

>>38687435
Who knows, maybe no one reported him to animal control yet. I've never seen them come after the homeless with pets.

>>38678502
I hear you.

South Park got in right in Night of the Living Homeless.

>>38687487
>going to work
>supporting this corrupt world
You are my problem asshat.

>>38687430
>one percent of the world getting free small amount food is a big problem
Just die already.

>>38687145
>>need to brush teeth
>>LE FOOD IS ALL YOU NEED LE FOOD
Nigga my tooth still fucking hurts thanks to being homeless.
But baking powder and hand sanitize works for a bit.
>TFW when you finally get to come home and shower, brush your teeth and take a shit without someone trying to pull you off of a bucket.

>>38687356
>>not having or making anything ready to defend yourself with in case something happens
You get arrested for carrying a weapon.
>not stashing your money off somewhere secret or using it to get yourself somewhere safer
HAHAHA I tried that my cash was gone when I got back then next hour.
Swear to fuck people watch you.
>>38687341
Damn fucking right...
>5 to 10 dollars for a 12 pack of 350ml of water bottles.
>some how you can get 20$ for 12 empty water bottles of plastic.
WOW INDIA SHOULD BE SO RICH GUYS JUST SELL EMPTY WATER BOTTLES FOR MAD STACKS OF PAPER YO
Cunts.

>>38681930
>Who here /smug condescending white hipster who thinks his farts smell like rosewater/

>>38687487
>Kek, you sound like my ex roommate after one of his coke binges. H
Like you dont suck cock for coke you liar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWxVwTVU15Q

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>>38678502
It's bad in my city too, Grand Rapids, Michigan.

Here we have a huge number of resources for homeless people, more than many cities in the united states. You can get access to about 10,000 calories of food per day for free around the city at various locations such as Degage, Guiding Light Mission, the soup kitchen, and many more. There are also free and low-cost places to live. Still every time I go to the bar I see 3 beggars. They always complain about not having enough food to eat. If I tell them about the 10,000 calories of food per day they can get for free, they get mad and pissy and swear at me. If you give homeless people money you are basically feeding the drug and violence system in your city. Let these people find their own money or die of starvation, it will be better for your city.

>Capitalists kill thousands of people for money and enslave millions more in sweatshops
>BUT THESE HOMELESS PEOPLE MAKE ME UNCOMFORTABLE

Jesus christ. I hope each and every one of you gets raped by an AIDS-ridden, fat, unwashed drug addicted hobo.

>>38688120
>Socialists kill millions of people and intern millions more in forced labor camps, death toll of socialism is higher than any other economic system in human history

>"But capitalism is like, literally like, so evil though! I learned that at university!"

it's not a perfect system fuck-o but it's better than anything else we have.

>>38687791
>implying it's free when people pay taxes on it
>implying the recipients use it as intended
Really the best way to handle that would just stop all grocery stores and food shops from throwing out their food daily and just send any unwanted items to shelters for resources. Never had any practical thoughts before, have you?

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>>38678502
We live in a society in which most people are exploited by business owners and conglomerates. We also live in a society in which we're conditioned to hate poor people. So when we see the poorest of people exploiting the exploited we have misdirected anger. It's also a scary vision into a place in society we fear, which is why our anger is so easily directed.
The beggars you describe are called the vagrant homeless; people who steal or pee on bushes. That's about 10% of all homeless. Most homeless were people who lived paycheck to paycheck, and then something hit them (their kid broke a bone and they couldn't afford insurance, their rent hyperinflation after a housing bubble popped, etc.)
The social services you mention don't exist for these people. In the U.S., the social safety net has been being deztroyed since the 80's by both parties. As well, the selectively pitying well off people you mentioned are also members of their local homeowners committee who campaign against homeless shelters being built in their communities.
The irony is that it's actually much cheaper to house all the homeless in public housing which allows drug and alchol users than to keep arresting and cleaning up after the vagrant homeless.

>>38687940
By that logic, the other guys should have been arrested long before you. You're already at your lowest; you can bend the rules a bit. The other homeless guys certainly aren't cutting you any slack.

Most homeless where I live aren't even homeless, they're just professional beggars and are VERY aggressive about it.

They're also all spice heads and just lay around passed out in broad daylight.

The council does nothing about it either.

>>38688007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDVluhJ-uCY
Heres kelly...Women who care homeless are prone to get raped but who cares just get a job and bee ur self

>>38682544
>atms usually dispense only $20 bills

What kind of hobo has that much hope?

>>38688208
>you can bend the rules a bit
No I cant because my clean record is how I got a job.
And it wasnt a homeless guy that stole my money.
Its was some fucking faggot wearing a snap back and wearing jordans.
Fuck you.

>>38688158
>Anybody who has a problem with capitalism must be a state communist

Capitalism is way worse, you just aren't exposed to its evils or rationalize them away. I'm sorry you've swallowed the propaganda.

>>38688221
Pro tip dude: she is mentally ill with delusions of persecution. None of her story is true. Yes it's tragic but what is your solution to the problem? I simply said not to give these people money because they can get free food all around. If you give them money they are using it on drugs and alcohol.

>>38678502
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Z5sDQeXsc
These homeless want their wish to make others happy.
Yet the neet wants to hate everyone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWcxaoEDG1E

>>38688326
What is your point? You are just whining.

>>38688343
I never said to give them money either but since you know her so well please tell me HER life story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcQVOx5iBUI
Yeah this guy must be a junkie dude bro ham.

>>38688343
You have been laid off from work before right?
YOu ever been evicted from an apartment?
What about robbed?

>>38688551
Why are you posting these gay videos? nobody cares

Until you propose your solution you are just a whining faggot bitch.

>>38688582
Have you ever asked retarded questions? (rhetorical: I have 3 examples already)

>>38688589
Bring back unskilled labour...open up shelters in places that are abandoned.
Let people grow their own food.
Stop arresting people for being homeless like canadas safe street act.
Maybe OH FUCK I DUNNO stop letting other countrys smuggle drugs into this country and shut the boarders.
Stop letting mother fuckers have ass many kids as they want while the system gives them more welfare.
I hope you have a good job and are investing it wisely.
I really hope you are saving for retirement.
>yes im planning on going to school for culinary or being a veterinarian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bto7KJIjzHI
This guy was a banker.

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>walk past homeless person and they ask for change
>dont make eye contact or even acknowledge their existence
they are scum

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>>38688627
Asking a question to a question doesnt make either of us wrong.
Why do homeless people upset you alot?
Are you a rich kid who likes kicking people when their down.
Do we really need more assholes in a world that does nothing but wage war?

>>38688168
Yeah give them expression food brilliant idea yessir

>>38688672
>Bring back unskilled labour
Cool let's drive down the value of the American dollar! Now instead of $3.00 being able to buy a T-shirt, it will now buy nothing because t-shirts will cost $35.00 instead! Great idea man that will really help the low income people of our country!!!!!!!! Btw we won't lag behind in the global economy at all!

>open up shelters in places that are abandoned
You realize homeless already take shelter in those areas? And to open a legitimate shelter in those areas would cost money that cities don't have. you can't just open a shelter in an abandoned area, you need to renovate it so there aren't glass shards, dirty syringes, and gas leaking pipes everywhere.

>Stop arresting people for being homeless
Whatever, makes no functional difference. Whether you arrest them or not they are going to be permanently homeless. Nothing you've proposed is a solution, it just makes the problem seem a little softer without doing anything substantial to ease the burden.

>Stop letting mother fuckers have ass many kids as they want while the system gives them more welfare.
This is a cultural problem, the government can't do anything to stop it. We need to stop glorifying casual sex and single motherhood, it's the only way to stop the slow decline.

>>38688802
Expired*

Autorape.

>>38688708
Jesus didn't exist anon.

>>38688672
>>38688708
Both of you are just whining that the world is bad.

Neither has a solution.
Yes there are sad homeless people. So what? What do you want to do about it? The world is unfair. Propose a solution that will end homelessness, or GTFO you whiny invalid.

>>38688693
If they ever get to close to me and I can't move anywhere, I just say I don't carry cash. Worst that ever happened was getting a fuck you once.

>>38688802
>all food expires the day it's grown or made
Oh wait, I forgot all you commie fags think everything's the same

>>38678857
This is so true. they're not robots. They are chads who got thrown out.

>>38688168
You want homeless people to eat expired food and die from food poisoning? And you call yourself compassionate and reasonable? Wow fuck off.

I work in an a service for homeless people, with and without substance misuse issues.

AMA

>>38689032
See >>38688991
It's policy for most food venues to throw out any unsold food that was made that day so they can make it fresh tomorrow. I provided a solution and you whine without bringing anything else to the table. You deserve the shit you put yourself in.

>>38689149
Are any of the people you help as insufferable as the poor chodes in this thread?

>let's take money from people who earned it and give it to people who didn't!

welfare is such a fucking joke.

>>38689220
There's people I don't like, but most of them know we're here to help and act accordingly.

>>38689317
You get a lot of regulars? Is it like a revolving door or have people there been trying o improve their situation?

>>38689400
Yup, more regulars than new users. There's about 20 people we see every day, others we see a few times a fortnight and then people who come in every few weeks to months.

As far as rehoming, detox etc, I can't really speak on it because it isn't my department. A lot of the regulars are not drug users, they may never have been or are sober now.

A lot of the older crowd have become kind of institutionalised and are content to stay between hostels. My favourite client is 70, sober and has stayed in the same hostel for the last 20 years.

>>38689668
So some people have made peace in their situation. How have they spent their time then, just go outside for a few hours and come back at night?

>>38689774
More or less.

Most hostels kick you out by 10AM, so

>Go to one of the homeless services, get breakfast (if not available at the hostel)
>Hang around said service, socialise, etc
>Dinner at service
>Head to hostel for 8
>Shower, socialise, sleep
>Rinse
>Repeat.

This is different for those who have other things going on, obviously. Some people are enrolled in classes, have court dates, go see their kids, attend N/AA meetings, what have you.

>>38687940
he didn't say 12 bottles, he said $120 worth of bottles

>>38689909
That doesn't sound as bad as people make it out to be. Do you guys have an enrollment process or do you just let anyone in who looks like they need it? Also have you seen any of the kids and how they've adjusted to being there or just their parents?

>>38683159
So is everyone in this board. Why are you here?

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>>38678502
Me too, anon.

>poor as shit myself
>there's this one long street in our city that all of the beggars sit on because that's where everyone does their shopping and shit
>get asked for change at least 10+ times walking from one end of it to the other
>decide what the hell, give the last of my change to some guy who is probably messed up from huffing aerosols
>"There's an ATM over there can you take out like another 10 or 20 for me"
>mfw
>tell him to fuck off and leave

That's just during the day time too, at night the gypsies come out and start pestering you for stuff too

>>38690314
The rare pepe supply

>>38678502
All they are doing is trying to exist. Just let them be.

>>38681930
can't stand the smell. I've seen lots of movies where a normal guy befriends a hobo, but in real life, they smell absolutely rancid and you wouldn't want to be near them

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>>38686739
>public bathroom.
OP here. Another way that the burgeoning homeless migrations are ruining the city in recent years is the lack of bathrooms. Cause homeless people do drugs and make a huge mess in the toilets, so stores and city workers would rather just close the bathrooms than have to clean up that shit. So now they are putting code locks on every store bathroom, and many public toilets close around 6pm. In Downtown LA the library is basically a homeless toilet and daycare facility where they can look at porn in the computer room.