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>>37397219
As an INTJ, how do I deal with having friends from a "dumber" type who are objectively more intelligent than you? I find it unnerving, not even in anything he does or says, just being aware of this is enough.

If I may delve into INTJ self-parody, it's like having a powerful minion but also a keen awareness that if he turned against me I would lose so I have to think of a way to cripple him. Not a healthy point of view, I know.

t. 128 IQ INTJ with 140 IQ ISTP friend

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>>37397585
>how do I deal with having friends from a "dumber" type who are objectively more intelligent than you?
As ENTP, I have no problem pretending to be retarded enough for friends. The keyword is friends, not just shits to talk to.
For you, I think this is a lost cause, unless you're willing to develop some degree of adaptability.

>>37397659
I wouldn't be asking if I wasn't willing to address the issue somehow. It's not like I'm asking for ways to cripple my friend.

And he is a proper, long time friend, I've known him for some eight years now.

>>37397659
>>37397706
Also my ISTP friend doesn't really hide his intelligence; on the contrary, he likes to show off. And we're both in very similar careers now so the differences in accomplishment are glaring (he also has a better work ethic but that's besides the point - e.g. he wouldn't be posting on an imageboard during work like I am now).

>always get INTJ when doing these tests
>dont feel intelligent at all
is it possible to be a brainlet intj
I think thats what I am

As an INTP,

I-ENFP

Ex-Chad who got bored of all the attention and became a complete loner to focus on studies

>One chance at life
>Be male INFJ
Please make it stop.

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16p - INFJ in 2017 INTJ now
keys2cognition - INTJ
similarminds - INFP
celebritytypes - extroverted feeling

Some of my friends tend to tell me i am extroverted, i do not really disagree with that, as i tend to either be really open or closed-in based on mood, and my introverted/extroverted score on 16p was 53-47% for introverted dominant, though i wonder why others tend to call me extroverted when most of the time i feel like i'm introverted? I don't really hang out with my friend in the free time, unless asked to and if i feel like it, i prefer to chill and stay alone. Any thoughts why others would call me extroverted ?

>>37399764

Opps my bad i meant "INFJ in 2016" not 2017

What is a healthy INTP like?
I'm under the impression that all INTPs on here are depressed or whatever. What are well-adjusted ones like?

>>37399436
Male INFP here, I feel ya mate

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>>37399852
they are like pic related

>>37397219
>INFJ
>At least I'm heading for a job that suits me

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>istp
>theres nothing I enjoy
>everybody is boring
>I just walk around aimlessly all day, masturbate and avoid doing stuff
>failing college and my life is falling apart but I'm not worried about that at all, even though I should be
is this what being an istp is like, or am I just depressed?

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>>37400781
You have that constant feeling of "everything will turn up to be alright in the end". That's why you don't care.

I slack all day and make up excuses to avoid whatever thing I have to do for as long as possible.
I know I have deadlines but I just can't care less.
I know i'll eventually come up with a last minute plan that will fix my situation.

It's a pretty confy lyfe, beside that last moment when you have to squeeze your brain to figure stuff out.

>>37400846
I know it won't turn alright in the end, though. I'll fail college, I'll end up friendless and become an alcoholic and die bitter and miserable. But it doesn't even worry me. The only thing that worries me is that there's nothing that I truly care about anymore.

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>>37397219
You also do big 5 test, who's more accurate and see what you'd be typed in mbti
http://similarminds.com/cgi-bin/newbig5.pl

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>>37400948
"All right" means "I'll survive someway".

Literally the only thing I need to survive is a computer and internet.
As long as I have them, I won't be bothered by anything at all.

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INFP here

I don't feel human anymore. I just feel like a brain in a jar.

>>37400781
>As WTF Years an ISTP describes the years in which he was walking through life aimlessly, mostly being perplexed by other people's behavior and his own lack of
motivation.There is no solid timeframe that can be asserted to those years, typically however they can last anywhere from your 16th birthday to your 25th. Ideally however less. Since ISTPs are introverted thinkers first and foremost we don't necessarily have to learn by first hand experience, but can abstract and learn from the mistakes people around us make. In that sense an ISTP often knows what is going to work and what is not, based on probability resulting from an ISTP's personal life experiences. Of course these predictions don't have dead on accuracy, but the greatest likelihood of occurence. In this state the ISTP overanalyzes and rationalizes to unhealthy degrees, denying himself to outwardly physical experiences, thus preventing him from expanding his horizon. It's a self-supplying mechanism that will only pull an ISTP down further and further unless broken manually. The state of a Dom - Ter loop typically only arises if the ISTP is in a state of cluelessness, or aimlessness. They wouldn't be labeled WTF Years if ISTPs had a direction and goals, now would they?

>>37397659
>no problem pretending to be retarded enough
Be careful, tho.
I did this for a long time and in the end I nearly became retarded for real.

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>>37400846
In the same situation, I justify it to myself as saying its "efficient".

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>>37397219
ENTP

I hate >>>/r9k/ desu I just got bored of >>>/pol/
apart from that I really feel nothing.People(normies) are just animals so society must exist so they are calm.

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>>37401052
>efficient

Jesus anon don't do this to me.

I'm INTJ, I have one friend who is INTP. Life is a misery but I don't know if that related to MBTI

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>>37397219
Should these types be considered people?
It seems weird that natural selection has created so many of them.

>>37401082
ENTJ here. I got bored of /pol/ too.

Nothing was interesting anymore. /pol/ truly died in January. Fuck CTR in the asshole.

>>37397585
Lol. Just try to get ahead of him I guess?

>>37399963
Same. Its quite lonely.

>>37401140
i think that these are the npc types

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>>37401084
Im so confused what do you mean

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>>37401172
>ENTJ here. I got bored of /pol/ too.
I know the feels man.
Since there is no Balt/pol/ ,I'm Latvian,there is no way to discuss our local politics.
Can you explain what is CTR though?
I understand that shills destroyed /pol/ but who are they?
I really feel the loss of quality in /pol/ due to them.It was a beautiful place(in ENTP understanding) but now I see only use in lurking there. I bet 85% of posters there are fat,NEET, /r9k/ers.

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>>37401206
>i think that these are the npc types
Yeah but why there are so many of them?
What use they have in natures perspective?
I really usually don't see them as most adapted persons when SHTF.
It feels like nature is Nigger that only thinks about today.

>>37399852
Depression is a way of life

>>37401140
well in today's society it's very unlikely that inxx-types will reproduce, so there will be even more sensors in the future. work will be obsolete in the future, which means that xsxj-types will also become worthless. it seems that every type will suffer, except for enfp, who live in a fairy tale land

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>>37401282
>>37399852
Depressed INTP's are fags that haven't discovered Death Grips and nihilism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcIEqDNyG-4

>>37400781
INTP here
We're soulmates anon. I can't find anything worth the effort... or some reason to keep living like this

>>37401315
>except for enfp, who live in a fairy tale land
>so there will be even more sensors in the future.
So basically Jewish conspiracies are real.
We are going to be a goyim race working for our EXXX overlords.

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>>37401217
"I do the same thing."
"I say the same thing."

>>37401337
people won't work in 50 years, they will just sit around in virtual reality.

>>37401276
They're worker drones. Societies thrive on an insignificant populus, think of ants or bees.

>>37401140
>be INFP
>Not in the list
Thanks for considering me as a human being

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>Your type
>Favorite villain who shares your type

>>37401416
>Infp
>None
Wow guys

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>>37401405
You are welcome robot.
>>37401404
>. Societies thrive on an insignificant populus, think of ants or bees.
So you want to say that considering them cattle isn't that bad?
>>37401389
>people won't work in 50 years, they will just sit around in virtual reality.
You are probably right.
the first that will go are InXX then EnXX and afterwards everyone else because EnXX types won't be there to speak back.

>>37401389
This isn't even remotely true. People will be forced to work. People will always be forced to slave away like cattle, if only for the satisfaction of the control class.

>>37401438
>>None
Are there no infp villains? I think that Phantom of Opera Phantom might be one.

>>37401438
>>37401416
>>37401468
Are there ENTP villains?
>I don't read comics,watch TV or do any normie tier entertainment.

>>37401481
>Are there ENTP villains?
Joker is textbook ENTP villain. Also Hans Landa from Inglorious Basterds and Raoul Silva from Skyfall.

>>37401327
I genuinely don't understand how some people have the motivation to do the same mundane tasks over and over again.

>>37401648
>have the motivation to do the same mundane tasks over and over again
Most of people do not question the obvious.

>>37401658
>Most of people do not question the obvious.
Most people are cattle.
>>37401140
(pic)

>>37401731
>Most people are cattle.
But they get shit done unlike people who overthink everything.

i want to hug a ESTJ

>>37401835
>ESTJ
yuck

>>37401799
>But they get shit done unlike people who overthink everything.
So basically we bare Eliot Rodgers of internet.Nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu6NKHtLzks

>>37401863
they are always so tense and serious. they really need a hug.

>>37401863
I would way rather fuck a sexy ESTJ than a derpy INTP.

>>37401889
>they are always so tense and serious.
They are LARPING normies that consider themselves as being better than others because of their originality and success. Really you put them under stress and they break like babies.
T. I organize hitchhikes.

>>37401917
fine ill bite. do you have a story about that?

Why does /mbti/ threads hate sensors so much?

>>37402054
i dont hate them, i just dont understand them

>>37401438
I think Walter from Silent Hill 4 could be an Infp.

>>37401648
I understand that but at the same time I've been playing mmorpgs since I was like 8.

>ENTJ
>tfw always relating to the villain in media
>tfw I wouldn't want it any other way

>>37401960
>do you have a story about that?
>Be me
>group of 6 people
>walking through desolate forest
>closest civilization is a house of elderly couple 60km away from camp spot.
>out of 5 people of normies there is this one robotic guy, very practical and serious-works in law.
>He gets lost
>Before the trip I told everyone we are moving upwards he river.If you get lost just continue moving upwards.
>Guy hasn't been in our camp for 2 days
>i decide continue moving(everyone signed agreement on that I'm not responsible for their health n shit)
>After 2 days we are at old couples home
>I call the police
after a day hey inform me finding a guy with ripped clothing moving the wrong direction completely distressed.

>>37401907
>sexy ESTJ
like hell that ever happens.

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>>37401416
Is Mantis an Intp?

>>37397585
i have an INTJ friend who I'm also smarter than, have a 140 IQ and I'm an istp, what

>>37400948
>I'll fail college
maybe college is what's making you miserable anyways. you don't need to go

>>37402623
I kinda have to, though. My parents will kick me out if/when I fail or drop out.

>>37402423
>Is Mantis an Intp?
Yes.

>>37401206
>ISTP

>npc type

wew

>>37401140
>muh special snowflake

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>>37402668
>My parents will kick me out
then join the military?

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>>37401835
Hello
ESTJ here

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>>37397219
>always get ISTP or INTP
what dis mean and how autistic am I?

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>>37401022
You can relax, I already have problems because of my depression and escapism, I still talk to my friends occasionally just because some sort of inertion.
I dont fear talking to other people since I always have something to tell, but I genuinely lost all my desires related to it. Its only question of choice, will something good happen to me or this world will lose another bipedal boredom dispenser

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Keep em coming anons

>Your primary score
>Your secondary score
>Your MBTI

http://personality-testing.info/tests/LSRP.php

>>37397585
IQ is basically diminishing returns after 120 bro. It literally doesn't matter; get over the numbers.

>>37401416
Joker is a hard ENTP that I relate to when I'm at my worst. Honestly it's the reason I abstain from drugs and alcohol as much as possible. Out of nowhere I feel this pull that's hard to explain. I feel I'm just going with the flow of an insane, chaotic universe.

Granted, lately I've avoided such and have tended towards productivity and helpfulness towards others, but it does scare me how when something awful happens, I have a tendency to laugh at the absurd bullshit that is life.

>>37403134
>istp
>4
>4

>>37401648
Most have some greater purpose or some ideal future. But I can only see the futility of all that

For the longest time I thought to be an INTJ, because that what the tests told me, and also I felt like that,
but the last test I took said ISFJ, and after reading the description it may fit me even more,
how is life as an ISFJ?

>>37401870
I didn't even know that guy existed but I can relate so much. I had virgin friends and that suppressed the need for companionship until I was the only virgin so they dump me. Now I'm desperate as ever

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>>37401648
Bloody well sort your self.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OscD3RYo6o&t=11s

Find an ideal goal, define it, then chase it.
Entp here, currently studying Maps of Meaning, it's a good read.

>>37400781
ENTP here and I feel the same way
I think about doing all the easy things in college first, then the hard development focused matters, but I know it's just a excuse for me to stop studying and smoke/fap

>>37403825
Any xSFx, especially xSFJ is normie sheep tier

>>37403941
but how, I'm not a normie

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Are INFJs one of the most forgiving types or are they one of the most grudge holdery ones

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>>37403901
That's funny, fellow Entp.
When I did a year of school online, I did all of the easy classes first. They were completed quickly felt satisfied. What I've found with my Personality is the second I allow myself to feel satisfaction, I become the laziest person imaginable. Eventually I was utterly swamped by the work that I'd put off.

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>>37397219
Daily reminder that if you're ENTP you need to look for an ISFJ gf.

>>37404058
>the second I allow myself to feel satisfaction, I become the laziest person imaginable
THIS

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>>37404058
I can feel you, since Im ENTP too
My mates once were asking to help them with subject stuff on tests, and I did it, because I was bored and finished all the crap ahead of everyone
Then they decided that I could be used as fucking secretary, and they began to offer me some stuff in exchange for help. Duh, I was just bored, so fuck off.

What do you think the characters in Always Sunny in Philadelphia's MBTIs are?

Here are my ideas:

Dennis: ISTP
Mack: ISFJ
Charlie: ISFP
Frank: ENTP
Dee: ESFP

>>37404315
Dennis is definitely not an introvert

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Some people have been complaining about the lack of OC in these threads. It was these threads that originally got me interested in MBTI, to learn it for the sake of bantz, and has been one of the few threads keeping me around on /r9k/. So, I decided to take matters into my own hands, and did some maths for you guys.

I managed to work out an estimation of the peak of an IQ curve for each type. I would say it "looks" about right, but it does rest on one assumption. The study I took my information for intelligence on, based on MBTI type, measures "giftedness" rather than IQ. The study was based on a talent search in John Hopkins University, in Maryland. To be "gifted" by Maryland's standards, you must show proficiency intellectually, academically, in leadership, in visual or performing arts, or to be "creatively gifted". It's too much to assume that these criteria would have a direct correlation with IQ, but I can assume it's at least a strong one, and without this connection I would have nowhere to begin.

I have a very minimal knowledge of maths, so I've been driving blind here, feel free to say I fucked up my numbers or my method is shit, it'll help. I'll go through it, and give my sources at the end of these posts.

To begin with, I took the estimated frequency of MBTI types in the United States population, as the study of giftedness took place in Maryland, from another paper. Then I took the percentages of gifted and normal students from the giftedness paper, I divided the gifted percentage by the total of the gifted and normal percentages, to find how many students of a type were gifted.

E.g.

ISTP - 3.23 / (3.23 + 4.16) = 0.4371

This tells us that 42% of ISTP students qualified as gifted.

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>>37401416
Unsure whether Magneto might be ENTJ, if not Frank Costello I guess.

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>>37405298

Then I would take the percentage given by the above formula for the frequency of gifted students per type, and multiply with the amount of a type in the given population. Upon adding each new percentage for each of the 16 types together, I'd have the total percentage of gifted students. This will come up.

E.g.

INTJ - 2.1 (%popuation) * 0.7419 (74%of INTJs are gifted) = 1.55799%

When I add the 16 percentages together, I get the number 40.453%. Meaning that 41% of the students the researchers worked with were gifted. This is useful, because I can place this number as an area on a bell curve. I'll link the online bell curve calculator I used at the bottom of my posts. The curve is in the form of an IQ bell curve, with a mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15. The terminator on the curve at which 41% of the graphs area would be above is at approximately 103.59. So, at an IQ of 104 is the point where at least 50% of the students would be expected to be gifted, gradually increasing with higher intelligence.

Using the bell curve again, it's easy to find where each type's IQ would peak on a curve. Using the percentage of gifted students of each type, I take that as the area above the terminator on the graph. I set the terminator to be at 103.59. From there, I adjust the mean until the area above 103.59 is as close as possible to the percentage of gifted students of that type.

E.g.

ENTJs have an average IQ of 107, 3 points above the line where a student would have a 50/50 chance of being gifted. 59.77% of ENTJ students will qualify as gifted, as the peak of ENTJs' curve falls above the 104 line. ISFJs have an average IQ of 95, 9 points below the 50/50 line. 28.57% of ISFJ will qualify as gifted, so the peak of the ISFJs curve falls below the 104 line.

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>>37405334
Over 104 IQ doesn't automatically make a student gifted, there's a 50/50 chance. 50% of gifted students will be above 104 IQ, as most will be gifted, but they are lower in frequency.

Adjusting the mean to find the correct area on the graph, you can find the approximate average of each type.

INTP - 115 IQ
INTJ - 113 IQ
INFP - 113 IQ
INFJ - 113 IQ
ENTP - 111 IQ
ENTJ - 107 IQ
ENFP - 110 IQ
ENFJ - 106 IQ
ISTP - 101 IQ
ISTJ - 103 IQ
ISFP - 95 IQ
ISFJ - 95 IQ
ESTP - 97 IQ
ESTJ - 91 IQ
ESFP - 92 IQ
ESFJ - 90 IQ

And, as a way of validating my numbers, I'll multiply each type's percentage population by their IQ, then divide by 100, as the percentages total to 100. This gives me an overall IQ for the population of 99.723 IQ - not half a point out.

Intuitives are higher on the scale than sensors are lower, because intuitives are rarer, and don't pull the average up as much. IQ is adjusted to average at 100, based on the mean of a sample population of the same age group.

As always, though, don't get you knickers in a twist over it. There's enough variation from person to person that it's not that significant, until you look at much larger populations. Your IQ isn't dependent on your type, it's possible to have a brainlet-tier type and not be a brainlet.

Sources -

MBTI populations in America - https://www.capt.org/products/examples/20025HO.pdf
Paper on MBTI and giftedness - http://psych.wisc.edu/henriques/papers/Sak.pdf
Accessible bar graph creator - https://www.meta-chart.com/bar
Accessible bell curve generator - http://davidmlane.com/hyperstat/z_table.html

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Post ideal jobs for INTPs.

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>>37405365
>>37405334
>>37405298
So what type are you?

>>37405408
Accounting.
Sitting on my ass playing with numbers with nobody interrupting.

>>37405459
I used to be sure I was INFJ. But, I'm pretty sure I've transitioned to INTJ these days. I don't mind it.

Any other borderline psychotic INTJs out there brooding and planning out a renaissance through sheer capability?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_LHDroHyLo

You know we're fucking crazy right
It's kind of hilarious

>tfw stupid INTP

there's no worse fate, truly.

>>37405365
>tfw intj and iq 140
>tfw not gifted

>>37405576
>spend two hours doing maths and formatting statistics for an /mbti/ thread on 4chan
>INTJ, 135 IQ
>tfw no gf

Etc, etc

There is no scientifical proof that MBTI ''personalities'' mean something or can show you what you are.

Please fuck off :)

>>37405547
>pushing for goals
>giving things your all
>how
t.istp

>>37405666
please satan, dont you have anything better to do?

ENFP

I use to be a INTJ but medication and therapy had changed me a lot

>>37405713
ha
you know we're fucking crazy right?

Took a fuckton of hardcore classes between the ages of 16 and 21 through which I intensely studied all things Physics, Biology, Chemistry, Humanities, and world religions

Managed to tie together my own custom ideologies from studying shit like the Bible, bhagavad gita, evolutionary bio, anatomy, the british romantic movement, performing classical music in a few choirs, 1900s poetry classes, the internet, whatever

After you digest and memorize a fuckton of history and culture, you then develop a series of theorems alongside a massive conceit that you now have the ability and perspective to begin adding to the spectrum, contorting its direction with the abilities you've probably garnered, or started to, from being somewhat of an autodidact

You then shut yourself the fuck off from 99% of the world if you're privileged enough to use everything you've learned for the sake of creation and execution. Align with who you have to, act like the kind of person that they want from you, etc. You quantify the ends you've accumulated and keep a tally of reference experiences until you feel that you've weaponized yourself to that same degree of utility as those famous figures you obsessively studied before you went into full-on action

Like I said, fucking crazy

>>37397585
Neither INTJs not ISTPs are capable of genuine friendship.

INTJs have trusted pawns and ISTPs have acquaintances, but that's as close as relationships by the respective types get.

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MBTI sucks desu, use the big five instead. It accurately predicts success, intelligence, politics, etc unlike the MBTI.

Test
http://personality-testing.info/tests/IPIP-BFFM/

Information
http://www.psychometric-success.com/personality-tests/personality-tests-big-5-aspects.htm

>>37405846
No, you didn't "used to be" an INTJ.

What are some INTP characters from chinese cartoons who aren't cringe worthy like L

>>37405365
>INFP
>third highest iq
sounds correct

>>37406899
Frieza

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>>37407118
Finally some validation. Feelsgood to be INFP

>>37406899
shikamaru

>>37407118
>>37407146
It's all about how you use it, Anons, now get the fuck back into your cages before Daddy brings out the belt again.

>>37407146
I was being ironic
INFP is SJW personality
I hope you die

>>37406899
>the definitive list
Lloyd and maybe C.C. from Geass
Killua, Ging and maybe Hisoka (probably ENTP though) from HxH (most transmuters seem xNTP or xNFP)
Shikamaru from Naruto
Urahara and Starrk from Bleach
Fuyutsuki and Ritsuko from NGE
Nagato from Haruhi (maybe INTJ)
Inumuta from KLK
Satou from NHK ni Youkoso
Oreki from Hyouka
Maybe Makishima from Psycho Pass, but he might be ENTP or ENFP, not sure
The Kihara family from the Index series
Lain from SEL
Kino from Kino no Tabi (maybe ISTP)
Ginko from Mushishi (though he seems to have high Fe)
Doc from Texhnolyze

Any others?

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>be me
>be male
>be infp
>be overly sensitive
>not even sub, but actually dom
>weird feels
>hard time making friends
>people think you are a normie, but you are actually not, you are just accepting other people with other points of view than your own
it feels fucking bad guys

>>37407769
>>be overly sensitive
>>not even sub, but actually dom

do you apologize when you spank people or what

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Not sure what I'm supposed to do with this. Is this a good thing?

>>37407826
no lmao, but im very concerned about other people and i take a lot of stuff that arent insults as insults

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>>37407881
No, INTP have highest rate of suicide.
I'm right there with you anon.

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>>37407881
Yes yes, really good thing actually, now you can rationalize it and have an excuse for all your shortcomings in life.

>>37407919
At the moment I'm fine. I never had suicidal thoughts. I hope it stays that way.
Thanks for caring Anon.

>>37407919
Not true actually, ISTP's have it, if I recall correctly INTP's sre third after INFP's

>>37397219
>Please no gay/trans bullshittery, there is a different board for you.

>Le 4chan Management Circlejerk has decided that /lgbt/ will be the New 4Chan Cultural Board (because /pol/ keeps getting the site almost shut down)
>trying to redirect users there for like the past year so it'll start speeding up and generating epic fucking memes
>hiding behind /pol/ and pretending to be a redditor's caricature of a /pol/fag whenever anyone points out this naked attempt to manipulate eyeballs

baka

>>37403134
>3.6
>2.8
I had no idea what the goal of this test was. That's pretty funny, I scored higher than 85.7% of people on the primary.

>>37408097
Also, ISTP here

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I took several mbti test but this is the first time I didn't get INTJ

http://www.humanmetrics.com/personality And before taking this test I heard this is the "best" site for finding your mbti

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What are you guys' honest opinion on INFJ's? Also could you post some fictional INFJ characters that don't fit the whole "old sage/wise guy" archetype? It doesn't matter if they're from chinese cartoon or from live action movies

>>37407951
I hate to be a fb roastie

But that literally described me

I feel comforted because it's not just me but it also confirmed that I'm doomed to be this way.

Are INTPs the true robots?

>>37405365
thanks for the posts, anon, very interesting
feels good being the master race

>>37403134
>2.5
>1.9
Kinda average I guess.
Oreganolli

>>37408417
IN/STP

>>37408320
>fictional INFJ characters
Johan from Monster is a good example of an extreme INFJ.
Himemiya from Utena is also an interesting example.

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Anyone who is not an INTP/INTJ is not an actual anon. You are all pretenders. Get out.

>>37403134
2.7
2.7
INTP

ORIGNALE

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INTP here. I'm a suicidal failure who is almost 30 and knows I will never be able to turn my life around, but for some reason I still don't feel sad or anything. I think I've been disconnected from the world for so long that I accept my eventual suicide as a logical inevitability.

pic related
>Do you know what it's like to be built this way, with only the power to push others away?

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what does this even mean

i keep getting this stupid INTJ but i don't think I'm INTJ

Why is celebritytypes so anti-INTJ?

You have to be a total asshole to no get INFJ in their INTJ vs INFJ test

Their "INTJs explained" video is basically only about ruthless Te, and describes unhealthy ENTJs much more than INTJs

They also mention that INTJs "strongly correlate" with narcissism

And yes, I'm pretty certain about my type

>>37401416
how would I even find out the types of a fictional character?

What MGS character is INTJ?

>>37408468
I remember someone saying that these threads hadn't amounted to anything after months. Looks like that problem's solved, though.

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>ISTJ is the most common type
>Underrepresented to an insane degree here because it's impossible to not be a normie
Feelsbadman, no one to shitposting with.

>>37408849
I think it's the P at work. You realize that there's a huge universe out there and that concepts like "good" and "bad" are created by humans and therefore don't really exist. Some websites correlate INTP with agnosticism as well, because the personality tends to look for objective reality and simply accepts it as is.
But I think you can turn your life around, anon. We have potential if we get ourselves in a position where we have to deliver, yet won't kill people if we fuck up.
For me it's even physical. I work little at home.

>>37409199
>Being a normie

At least you don't have Feeling

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>>37409242
heh, you infp too, friendo?

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>>37406700
okay, I have this, explain myself

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>>37403134
>ENTP
>4.2
>2.1

I'm not a fucking psychopath, I just don't let others take advantage of me. Second test is bullshit.

>>37409323
I'm an ENTP tomodachi

>>37405547
Protip: that's just you.

>>37403134
>INFP
>3.6
>3.8

>>37405408
Artist desu
at least it's what i tell myself so i can sleep at night

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ISTP here. I'm unironically having an existential crisis. What is the point of life? Why were any of us born? Why were we all just thrust into existence? Nothing we do matters. If there's just nothingness before and after our existence, why exist at all?

I dunno. It just gets to me.

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>>37397585
>>37406221
Don't take the meme descriptions seriously
You aren't "masterminds"

>>37397585
IQ means nothing if you don't have the motivation to improve/work hard.

>>37409632
They're INTJ, they need to assign value to everything.

>>37409653
IQ is completely irrelevant. the only thing that is relevant is your achievement

>>37409671
>They're INTJ
unlikely
>they need to assign value to everything.
Stop taking meme descriptions seriously

>>37409671
Literally true. When I was in halls I ranked them all to their faces and didn't understand why they were annoyed with me.
I don't have autism, honest, I've been tested

>>37409712
INTx: if you don't have autism, you're trying your best to have it

>>37407187
>SJW personality
What?? Even so what does it matter, actual ones that aren't Tumblr tier and twitter "death to all whites" are the most reasonable and caring to all types of people. They might like them, but they see people as individuals.

>>37405365
>>37405567

>tfw INTP
>103 IQ
I feel more intelligent than most poeple i interact with. Ever since i took the test im obssesed with my iq and i try to deny it

>>37409606
Without a concrete reason for existence, the task becomes to create your own! Nobody really knows about worlds beyond this one, but this is the one in which you live, and your connection to it can be terminated at any moment. Armed with this knowledge, follow your muse not with urgency (for we all must die and the specifics are unimportant) but with the calm assurance that you are playing your part in the grand theater of the cosmos.

>>37409759
He's baiting or retarded.

Most people ITT are the latter, they read the stereotypical descriptions and think that every person of that type thinks like that all the time, about everything.

>>37409564
ow. i guess i still have a lot to learn about those cognitive function things

>>37407305
>Any others?
Literally everyone from Blame
Mayuri from Bleach too

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>>37403008
i hate to break it to ya...

>>37399995
how is Winston an unhealthy INTP?

I would unironically say he's a healthier INTP, passionate, sociable and interested, if not a little outcasted.

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I - most people here have no self esteem
N - since people here have no real world experience, they imagine everything. Being the hero, villain, saying the right thing, getting revenge, etc, and gather abstract knowledge to counteract their lack of confidence
T - most people here can't express emotion due to autism
P - most people here are NEETs or in retail

lmao. no wonder everyone here is an INTP.

>inb4 "i'm special 2% of pop and muh IQ"

What are the main differences between ENTP and INTP?

>>37409781
That actually was a little helpful.

>>37407305
Satou isnt an intp

maybe an INFP, but certainly not an INTP

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>>37407305
Could I please have a comparable list for INTJ? An anime-based list such as this would be just the ticket

Please and thank you

>>37403008
ISTP: the "everyone is a degenerate nowadays" autist. Takes /pol/ seriously
INTP: the "I love science and may mays, also minecraft modding" autist.

Both are often total failures if they are on this website

>>37409676
And IQ is very highly correlated with achievement. More than nearly all measures known to man.

>>37409934
ENTP can talk to many people and not sperg out, usually something like the stereotypical class clown. INTP is more "logical" and serious but still seems like a quiet ENTP on the outside

>>37401140
anyone under the xxFx category should neck themselves.

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>>37410053
t. probably an F with depression who thinks he's very "logical" and "unemotional"

>>37409890
I'm INTP and have little to no confidence problems, and work as a teacher. I still hate people though.

How can I tell if i'm an INFJ or INFP?

>>37409953
What makes you say that?
Satou is pretty much the unhealthiest example of an INTP with extremely repressed (thus explosive) Fe.
>>37409974
From the top of my mind:
Robin from One Piece, though she could also be INTP
Lelouch from Geass, though some argue he's ENTJ; Schneizel also fits, he's the stereotypical INTJ villain
Kurapika from HxH, Chrollo is either INTJ or INFJ
Shino from Naruto
Aizen from Bleach, some say ENTJ but I disagree. Also, Askin is either INTJ or INTP
Gendo from NGE
Aleister Crowley from the Index series is more or less the caricature of an INTJ (extremely convoluted plan that succeeds even when it fails; seemingly rational motives that are actually based on pure emotion)
Kano from Texhnolyze is a good example and a very interesting character overall

Can't really be bothered to find other examples

>>37410121
do you wish other people died or just you

>>37409934
Ne Ti Fe Si

Ti Ne Si Fe

The order of these functions makes all the difference.

>>37409949
I hope so, anon. I've been struggling with not having a reason for living for a long time but the real answer is that you don't need one. You're here now, and eventually you won't be. Do what you love to do and find a way to support yourself while doing it.
(corollary: if what you love to do is fap to traps and shitpost then power to you, but considering the content of most of this site I doubt it is your true calling in life.)

>>37410176
What's it like to lead with Ne as opposed to leading with Ti?
I analyze everything, is this Ti?

>>37410146
mostly just myself desu

>>37410121
They are quite different

INFJs are like INTJs who care about people on the outside and not so much about logic. Think of people as "groups" who are either for or against something. Behave like immature SPs when depressed

INFPs are like ISFPs who are more random and "dreamy". Think of everyone as individuals. They behave like very unhealthy TJ types when depressed

>>37410195
then INFP.
INFP are self hating pure souls who are too idealistic and sensitive for this world.
INFJ are outwardly sensitive people and are cold, ruthless motherfuckers on the inside.

>>37410140
Fair enough. Surprised about Shino. He seems like an INTP to me. Gendo I'd certainly agree with. Chrollo I can but as well, really liked him. Lelouch adds up. He's occasionally theatrical but then so am I. Really need to crack on with GTexhnolyze. The problem is I have to be in a very specific mood to watch it.

>>37410187
Depends on how you analyze something.

"This works with my internal morals" = Fi
"This will bring harmony to everyone" = Fe
"This will work based on my one logic system" = Ti
"This will work based on what is real right now" = Te

>>37410240
Shino is very methodical, isn't he? It's been a while since I've read this piece of shit series so I might be wrong. Shikamaru is pretty much the textbook INTP, Shino seems to have more discipline and to be more organized and less spontaneous.
>Chrollo
Talking about HxH, how would you type Hisoka? He's an interesting character and I originally thought he was xNTP, but now I have doubts.
>need to crack on with Texhnolyze
>have to be in a very specific mood to watch it
(re)Read The Stranger beforehand then marathon the series.

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>>37403134
>4.8
>3
>ENTP

am I gonna murder someone? I just believe that my success overrides the successes of others.

>>37410259
I was asking about Ti and Ne, the leading functions for INTP and ENTP respectively, unless I'm mistaken

>>37410187
The Fe and Si are also important, but i'll make it quick.

Ne Ti explores the outer world for new ideas through observing and interacting with them. This isn't done consciously, so it happens passively all the time. Then, Ti is used to logically sort that information out and create theories based on what one has learned. In simpler terms, Ne explores and uses Ti to make sense of what it finds.

Ti Ne forms it's theories from internal, logical thinking (Ti) and then uses Ne to expand upon the theories it creates. Therefore, it's "theories" are fewer, but they are much more developed. Basically, Ti forms theories and uses Ne to seek out things with which they can develop those theories.

>>37410259
Give your perception function descriptions?

>>37410308
If I ever have a good few days to myself to get on with such an undertaking I just might. My brother loves The Stranger, I prefer Sartre and Burroughs.

I couldn't begin to type Hisoka because my knowledge of the classifications isn't deep enough. He's intelligent/ scheming, bound to a code of his own that has little crossover with common morality, extroverted, defiant and driven by his passions. If you can make something of that, have at it.

Shino is indeed very methodical but seems rather too hung up on his feels and bitterness. He doesn't feel superior, just excluded. So he's likely IxTJ at least.

>>37410363
I understand, thanks for the explanation.
Both of those processes seem like things I do, though, is there a way to determine which one is the right one? I'm bad at self-reflection.

>>37410426
If you wanna know which type you are, then you need to also look at the order of Fe Si, and how it relates to Ne Ti.

Or just go take the test, whatever you want.

>>37399852
Dunno, I'm INTP and depressed, but I didn't know most other INTPs were

>>37401318
everything about your post screams normie

>>37410425
I'd say Hisoka is somewhat of an introvert, actually.

>>37410425
>Sartre
I've always put off reading Sartre because I dislike his character. What's the best thing he's written?

>intelligent/ scheming, bound to a code of his own that has little crossover with common morality, extroverted, defiant and driven by his passions.
Could be ENTP or ENFP, I'm not sure.
Hisoka doesn't strike me as conventionally extroverted though, especially since he admits to being shy to Illumi. It's more like he grabs on to what interests him and disregards the rest.

>hung up on his feels
Could be INTJ tertiary Fi.
>He doesn't feel superior
INTJs don't necessarily feel superior, that's a celebritytypes meme I think.
>IxTJ
Probably. A true ISTJ would be Sai.

>>37410329
ENTPs seem to be sociopaths in the making, generally. Fun, though.

Rationalise it like this: you didn't choose to be here, and the idea of "owing" people for things is stupid. Everyone does shit for their own enjoyment, whether they realise it or not. Doing charity work to feel better about themselves, or making friends for entertainment, you only ever have one perspective - yourself - that's all you and anyone else cares about. Instinct can handle the rest, reproduction and whatnot. You don't live for other people, and they don't for you. Expect similar treatment. Stay out of people's way, or get in their way - and they get in your way. You'd do the same to them, and that's all that'll end up mattering.

>>37410379
Se = "This is definitely real right now, I'm directly experiencing it through my senses in a literal way"
Si = "These sensations reminds me of that similar experience I had some time ago, therefor this and that will happen next"
Ne = "These seemingly random things can be combined in so many ways. Think of all the possibilities"
Ni = "This is similar to a "concept" I know, I know this is likely to happen next even though I haven't experienced it before"

>>37410455
Tests seem inaccurate, or maybe I'm not honest enough, since different ones give me different results. I usually get INTP, ISTJ and ENTP.
>Fe Si
I don't really understand my feelings and whenever I get them my mind feels chaotic. This is probably the sign of having Fe as a last function, right? Which means INTP.
I'm not sure about Si.

>>37403134
>http://personality-testing.info/tests/LSRP.php
5
4.1
ENTP
I just dont like most people enough to care about them

>>37410475
Why do you say that? He's quite flamboyant, to say the least. Though now you mention it, I see it a little. He's quite self-contained.

>>37410485
So any advance on a Naruto INTJ? Why not Kabuto, for example?

The best thing written by Sartre. My first thought would be Nausea. No Exit is very famous too, but I like Nausea. It talks about a feeling I know all too well. A sudden, sickening yellow light as though something terrible has cast its eye on you and you just have to scurry back home rather than remain exposed. It just hits all of a sudden. I think it's a form of social anxiety possibly.

>>37410533
Si is important in the way it interacts with Ti in the INTP. This is what makes the INTP more "grounded" than the ENTP, who is up in the clouds. Si makes it possible for the INTP to put down a theory once they believe it has been fully developed, and integrate it into their grander logical system. The ENTP, in contrast, always seeks for more, and never establishes a concise, end result.

You're more likely to be an INTP, and I'm pretty sure you are one

>>37410533
>This is probably the sign of having Fe as a last function, right?
Fe is about the outside, visible feelings of other people and being "in harmony" with others
Fi is about your own feelings and morals and being original, the hipster function

Both of these will manifest as their negatives only f they are inferior, e.g. E*TJ will hate/ignore morals if he wants (but still care about them a bit), IxTP will sometimes deliberately do things that are not socially acceptable but still have "Fe charm" with other people

>>37410586
He is much more focused on himself and his own little world than an average extrovert would be. He also doesn't seem to be the most social person, from what I've seen of him

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>>37399852
intp reporting in

hedonistic nihilism really staves off the depression

>>37410586
>flamboyant
This is actually not related to intro/extroversion.
Hisoka seems to generally prefer being alone or at least to put distance between himself and others. The only person he's somewhat close to on a friendly basis is Illumi.
Introverts can be flamboyant, and extroverts can be stern.

>Kabuto
Hadn't thought about him. I'm not sure about his type, he's probably either INTP or INTJ.
Itachi could be INTJ, some say he's a feeler but I don't see it.
Sasuke might be INTJ but given as he's terribly written I'm not sure.
Gaara is either an INTJ or an INFJ in a Ni-Ti loop.

Thanks for the recommendations, I'll look into Nausea. It sounds like something I'd enjoy.

>>37410665
Hedonistic nihilism is unsustainable unless you kill yourself before you burn out

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I took some of these not too long ago and got INTJ, and have been getting INTJ for years but now I jut took almost all of them and get ISTJ now.

What's going on robots. I don't understand this sudden change.

>>37410623
Ok, I think I get it.
>I'm pretty sure you are one
What makes you say that?

>>37410007
doesn't matter. a high iq shouldn't be praised if nothing comes of it

>>37409877
You've mixed it up. The first anon asked what healthy and well-adjusted INTPs are like, and the guy you replied to posted a picture of Winston

>>37410730
Because of the way you described your Fe

And because all types have a unique way of writing (kinda?)

>>37410837
>all types have a unique way of writing
That's interesting, care to elaborate?

Are there subdivisions of INTJ? It would be useful to have a better understanding of myself, though the broad classification fits more often than not.

>>37410866
I've only seen subtypes for INTP
http://wambly.weebly.com/the-24-intp-subtypes.html
I don't know how legit that is though

>>37410866
see the vid I posted here:
>>37405547

5 min breakdown, see if it fits

>>37410849
Not really. It's something instinctual, I think.

It's like a "Oh, this guy is prolly an INFP" out of nowhere.

>>37410745
ah yeah you're right.

Thanks.

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>>37399852
This is why we play videogames and shit

>>37410952
Are you an ENFJ or something?

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>>37410721
learn enough about cognitive functions until you can understand this.

Then you'll know if you're an ISTJ or an INTJ

>>37410967
ENTP my dude.

Ne and Fe can give interesting insight when coupled with Ti

>>37411044
What's it like to be rational yet in touch with Fe?

>>37410721
The difference between Si vs Ni is not easy to determine by most test, especially if the questions are not really clear or the test creators didn't really knew the differences themselves. Most type descriptions only say that INTJs "think about the future a lot" and that "ISTJs are very traditional", but both of these must not be true and produce many mistyped ISTJs who think they are INTJ because they don't fit the ISTJ descriptions.

Both of these functions are not really observable to the person themselves:

Si (in xSxJ types) is about your own past actions and experiences, these people mostly think about their direct past behaviors, they often know themselves the best because of this and could talk for a long time about what they have experienced even though it's not really relevant. Memories of experiences are subjective (have tons of data about your own experience of the "thing", not just what happened). Since their memories are not always accurate, they want to talk to other similar people to come to conclusions about their experiences. Hate uncertainty that their inferior Ne produces and tend to plan everything in detail because of this. Usually close to enneagram type 6

Ni (in xNxJ types) is about "concepts", aka vague conclusions from experiences/observations, there's a focus on how something is going to affect non-visible things in the world. Love to speculate about uncertain things and make predictions about how likely something is. Do not reflect and talk often about their direct experiences/actions, find that very boring to do. Memories of past experiences are only about what happened in an objective way, since these types have Se. Usually enneagram type 5

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>>37401416
>I/ENTJ
>Palpatine

Why does everyone say INTPs always dress like shit

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Just found this, looks like Fi dominants have it tough.

>>37411063
As I said, it gives interesting insight into social stuff. Social situations are kind of like games where you have to say the right stuff and imitate the right emotions. If others think you are feeling something, they will be more comfortable.
I feel like I can feel other's feelings stronger than I can feel my own desu

>>37411157
>say the right stuff and imitate the right emotions.
That sounds like a good skill to have.
Do you just automatically pick up on other people's emotions without having to manually determine what they might be?
>stronger than I can feel my own
Is this why the ENTP = sociopaths meme exists?

>>37410585

ENTP here

Primary: 3.8
Secondary: 4.2

Every ENTP I've ever met has been empathically challenged in some way, with most of them not even realising it.

Childhood best friend was a genuine sociopath ISTP, good times until he joined the police force.

>>37411103
its pretty funny to hear stacies flip out about it
>OMG anon wore the same sweatpants today! He walking around with a hood on in cold weather, hes so edgy.

>>37411216
I'm INTP and I dress well. The badly dress nerd meme needs to end

I seriously have no idea if I'm INFP or ENFP anymore. When I'm talking to my friends it's like the conversation becomes a sort of wonderful high, then I'm absolutely drained for at least a day after and go into full seclusion. But then suddenly I get lonely and I'm literally dying for human contact again. I feel really clingy/needy but... that's it, I guess.

>>37403134
ESTP / ENTP
4,3 and 3,1 honestly wouldn't think of my self as one at all i guess i have just accepted the world to be fucked so its survival of the fittest to me

>>37411103
I exclusively wore these four pairs of sweatpants/joggers through the entirety of my college experience. I didn't notice until I was at some party and a few of the girls started joking and envying me about it

>tfw I was oblivious
Cringed pretty hard

>>37411290
I used to be oblivious to the way I dressed too but I educated myself on basic stuff because I didn't want to stand out anymore. It's pretty easy.

>>37411189
It's mostly instinctual reading of body language and voice, but you can make it more efficient if you rationally interpret it. Lies are very easy to detect, for example.

If someone sees that the ENTP isn't actually feeling much and what they are showing is a mask, they might think he's a sociopath.

Many ENTP's have underdeveloped Fe, which makes them very confused in social situations on both an emotional and a rational one.

>>37411233
What do you wear?
I think i fit the meme. I usually walk around i sweatpants and a hoodie, but now that its hotter i wear shorts and old dirty timbs

>>37411351
Basic shit. Dark blue or black jeans, non-autistic athletic shoes (nike or whatever), well-fitting t-shirts that don't have gaudy graphics on them, and a nice jacket. Always dark or neutral colors.
I especially like outerwear for some reason so I have a lot of jackets and parkas.
Not dressing like shit goes a long way, people treat me normally now unless I spill spaghetti.

>>37410898
I watched it and it seemed accurate.

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>>37403134
>3
>3.1
>ISTP
Am I suppose to feel bad about this? I don't know what I should feel.

>>37410707
hedonistic nihilism isn't quite the right word. it's more like existential nihilism where the purpose you give yourself is relaxation

don't take anything too seriously and go with the flow - enjoy yourself nihilism.

i find it perfectly sustainable

>>37411314
It wasn't even like that though, I was getting girls left and right and had social circles at a whim. That entire four years I even browsed/practiced /fa/ and /fit/-- I just was so absorbed in gaining technical knowledge and mastery I never noticed that I went four years without shopping lmao

intp/intj vibes still
never had problems getting girls like the stereotypes say. Ever since I was 13 they were always there, idk

>>37411476
>I just was so absorbed in gaining technical knowledge and mastery I never noticed that I went four years without shopping
INTP in a nutshell
>they were always there, idk
You're probably tall, attractive, or both

>>37403134
istp, 3.9 and 3.6
guess im an edgelord psychopath

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Anyone else put a collage together?

>>37411542
I don't take these seriously enough to do that

What's the best romantic match for INTP's?

>>37403134
whats the cut off line for borderline psycho and full psycho?

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>>37403134
INTP
2.6
3.4

>>37403134
>3.2
>3.7
>ISTP
"You score for primary psychopathy was higher than 79.42% of people who have taken this test.

You score for secondary psychopathy was higher than 90.6% of people who have taken this test."
I cheat and manipulate people then feel bad about it. Am I actually crazy or no?

>>37411656
I had the best sex + relationship of my life with an ISFP all of last year. She insisted on paying for everything and was obsessed with doing everything I never even thought realistic, like surprising me with front row, middle seats to a kanye concert with an accompanying hotel room

She was sensual as fuck and was looking for a good reason to not give a fuck about anybody else. We stopped going together because we each wanted to focus on our own shit instead of fucking 24/7

From that I've learned that ISFP might be a good fit, but maybe a type that you can do all of those things with but also not sacrifice the quality alone time and productivity

>>37403134
>3.3
>3.3
>INTP

How is this not original?

you deserve to live

>>37411136
>intp
>0% depression
LMFAO these fuckers are always on the edge of suicide, where'd this shit come from

>>37411656
don't laugh, it's ESFJ. google socionics my friend. Duality is the only romantic interaction anyone should follow. the rest will end eventually.

INTP
Everyone says something different, you can't believe anybody
But can I trust myself?
Is everyone wrong but me?
Maybe I'm right about the wrong things
Is everything better or worse than I think?
Deliver me from this self-imposed mental torture!

>>37413626
Yeah man. I'll drink to that. Worst part is that it isn't even necessarily an anxious feeling, not like a distinct emotion a feeler would get. It's just a constant, cold appraisal of our grasp on truth. And since we know it is impossible to know anything, to say nothing of human relationships, we know that we'll never actually know the truth.

>>37413274
They tested around 5 INTPs
What do you expect, not everyone has autism

I'm an INTP and I would say that I'm not depressed, but I think that life is rather boring most of the time. I would say that most other types have a higher risk of depression, but they also have higher chances to be happy. In the end it doesn't matter, though. no matter how satisfied you are with life, the end result is always death.

>>37401416
Intj, Hannibal Lector. Specifically Mads' portrayal.

>>37401416
>enfp
>literally no enfp villains

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>>37401416
>INTJ
>Moriarty

>>37401140
W-what's wrong with ENFPs? Why are they npc tier?

>>37415253
Everyone who is an E should kts

>Used to be INTJ back in the day
>Turned into INTP in my late high school life
>Out of college, now an ENTP and relate to it a lot more than the previous two.

D-Did I grow up guys? What does ENTP even mean?

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>tfw infp male
>so terrified of appearing feminine or soft i make a goal to be deliberately cruel or violent to someone at least once a day
>thought this would make people angry at me and show me the errors of cruelty
>tfw people respect me more now
>tfw it hurts but i still do mean things to people because they like me more and like it themselves
what the fuck is wrong with people why do they like it when i hurt them. i am so hateful and bitter all the time now and i cannot connect with anyone.

>>37411473
Read
Schopenhauer
Kierkegaard
Camus

In that order.

>>37415398
Yo dude you gotta learn to have a strong personality worthy of respect for its intrinsic value, for example being more like an ENTJ who is motivational and hard-working without having to be cruel. You gotta cut this out man

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>>37403134
>intj
>2.6
>2.9

>>37415414
>schopenhauer before kierkegaard
>kierkegaard to encourage relaxed nihilism
>kierkegaard the man who coined the term leap of faith and wrote several books on austere aestheticism
>camus the fucking normalfag
i hate camus so much
>>37415486
i do work hard. i have worked for community for a long time i help at local churches, i am a craftsmen, i write literary papers, i do lots of things and nobody cares they disregard me, i have no friends despite trying really hard at all my outings (and not trying hard cause like screwing a screw you push too much you put it in more) but none of it works. i speak to people i go out places but none of anything ever works

>>37415398
I will love you robot
I'm bitter, suicidal and resentful. Let's hate together

>>37409199
ive got istp, intj and istj
ive given up finding out which i am desu

>>37415631
i am not gay and i don't want to be hateful. hatred and homosexuality are wrong but they all seem so effective and nice

>>37400781
Yeah that sounds about right.
Its funny how humans fit into neat little categories

Im constantly fighting myself over my desire to be industrious and my own laziness and social anxiety

>>37415594
> accept it
>hate everyone
>plan
>get vengeance

>>37415659
Wrong... morally?

>>37415710
i don't want to do that i want things to be better

>>37415779
yes wrong morally

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>>37415650
>ISTJ
generally responsible and stay on top of detail/ menial work. people who like to do their duty. Like to follow the rules and encourage others to follow them to ensure that everything is comfortable and predictable. Just does their job. Generally wear traditional clothing and clean, looks basic. Likes tradition and things to say standard, doesn't mind routine. Doesn't question the rules or the "system," tell others to stay in line

>ISTP
Questions the rules. Will respect them if they make sense. if they don't they will not follow them. not afraid of doing the wrong thing because they follow their own "rules" that make sense to them. Ignores all chores and not responsible, but like being viewed as competent above all else. Bored easily and need novelty, hate routine. Terrible at long range planning, but is capable of doing short range planning, then taking action, figuring out as they go. HATE drama and telling others what to do, they just want you to leave them alone. ISTPs are loners and easy going observers. Desire practical knowledge that can be used, don't like "intellectuals" and theory for it's own sake (philosophy, religious debate, etc). In tune with their bodies, or not at all (Ti- ni loop). Makes their own "system" and follows it on their own


>INTJ
Like to plan far ahead. Doesn't mind disagreeing with others bluntly. Make their own "system" and want others to follow it. A lot more serious and professional than ISTPs, and not as spontaneous/focused on their bodies

>>37415857
Morals are defined by society anon. Free yourself from the herd, be the wolf that eats the sheep

>>37416246
shut up faggot you don't want me to be an ubermensch you just want an excuse to suck my cock

>>37416271
I didn't want to suck you, I wanted to know you but you aren't worth it

>>37416453
looks like i filled my cruelty quota today

>>37416493
not that guy, just have to say i kek'd heartily
these threads are great

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Hello again it's me the only other ESTJ on the board.
I have to go to work again tomorrow and I'm so pleased. For a second I was worried I'd have to actually be productive.

>>37417192
Still wondering why would an ESTJ be on r9k of all places

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Just in case you fags aren't well aware there are several mbti discords.
You can join the most active r9k one with this code: w565UwY

>>37417292
I was really unhappy as a younger man. Pills therapy etc.
You all remind me of me at that age. It's great.
I like anime too.