Do you men get it now? Why is it so hard to understand?

Got it. Girls will only consider a relationship with assholes guys.

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>>35933286
For men, the thought of dealing with roastie drama and not getting sex in return, just to be some slut's emotional tampon is just not worth the hastle.

Do you women get it now? Why is it so hard to understand?

>>35933530
/thread

How will OP ever recover?

>>35933577

By not being an asshole an actually enjoying the girl's company as a friend?

>>35933286
so the idea is
never become friends with a woman who you're even tenuously considering as a potential love interest

Yeah manipulating your "friend" for years making them think there's a chance until you meet douche chad is not a conceited fucked I'm thing to do Stacy

>>35933530
/thread right here my man is aware
>>35933606
>enjoying the company of girls
you're joking right
right?

>>35933286

This is a blatant lie. If a girl is actually attracted to you she'll have sex with you. If not, she'll either reject you in an honest way or give you a line like in the op.

>>35933685
>years
>manipulating

If you are pining so hard after a girl for literally fucking years, and then are surprised when she dates someone else, YOU are the problem.

>>35933727

I know its hard, for your little robot mind to comprehend, but most adults are actually functional people who can get along with each other regardless of gender.

>>35933286
>platonic relationship
>female
kek
females are shit teir humans, why would you want to befriend one?

>>35933768
>>35933768
>females are shit teir humans, why would you want to befriend one?

Why would anyone want to be friends with you?

>>35933760
Women are just not interesting as people. The only reason men seek their company is to have sex with them, or to be seen in their company, to signal that they are popular with women.

If you're over the age of 18, and still getting friendzone that's all on you buddy. Make a move on the girl, if she rejects you fucking move on. Yeah it sucks, but you can't do anything to make her attracted to you. So just keep going.

>>35933760
If this were true, there'd be a lower divorce rate.

>>35933768
>Being this pathetic
Do you have any actual friends?

>>35933823

I mean if that is your opinion then fine. But its not really fair to right off a whole gender.

I do understand how they have that perspective.

But from the man's side, it's not a perfect pltonic relationship if he has to constantly suppress his feelings for her.

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There is absolutely, positively, no reason whatsoever to be friends with a girl who you are not currently having sex with.

White knights seething at my post:
What do girls have to offer to a friendship
What baggage do girls bring to a friendship

>>35933463
The guys they get with aren't the assholes. The self proclaimed "nice guys" are.

>>35933530
How much of a manbaby do you have to be where being someones friend is so much work?

>>35933861

What baggage can anyone bring to a friendship?

You, like most other robots, again just value you women for the wholes, I can't make you not hate women or respect them. But don't pretend men are better.

>>35933846
>You write off the entire species of snails without trying to look for that one special snail who would make a good friend? That is just unreasonable.

There are biological and cultural differences that make it so. Women are women everywhere.

>>35933861
Girls can offer the same things guys over in a friendship if you had any actual friends or left your house you'd know this

>perfect meaning she gets all the benefits of a relationship without having to put out

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>>35933900
>attractive guys aren't assholes, only ugly guys are

>>35933825
>>35933735

Both of these. If you get put into the friendzone it is YOUR fault. If a girl hasn't returned interest in sex with you, ditch her. She's never going to fuck her and if you think she'll see your value as a mate by you pretending to be her friend, you're a deluded beta orbiter.

Move
The
Fuck
On

Ditch her. Ghost her. Write her out of your life - she is dead to you.

>>35933901
>But don't pretend men are better.
They are, in literally every way.
The rapport between men is something special roasties like you will never, ever understand. How does it feel to know you will never experience true friendship, you worthless whore?

>>35933861

I will give a girl 1 week max that I am pursuing. If my dick isn't in her by the end of that week I cut off all contact. Zero time for games. You're either interested in me, or you're not. Its a very simple question.

>>35933928
Ugly guys typically ARE assholes, pal.

>>35933606
I don't think you understand. Girls are very ego driven and spoiled compared to a man, it's not pleasant to talk to them if you can not relate, that is the issue. The beta guys can relate to their feelings, but not their actions, they will pretend their ridiculous actions are okay because their girls and they want to fuck them.

Guys are perfectly fine with being friends and also fucking. Girls are the ones who have the hang-up about this.

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>>35933951
You not being able to sympathize with a person doesn't make that person an asshole.

>>35933943

This guy has never had sex. Guaranteed.

>>35933844
Yes. Just not women, because they're shit.

https://dalrock.wordpress.com/category/death-of-courtship/
For guys, the thought of losing money, time and confidence to their female acquaintances for the sake of trying to see if a relationship could work out is just not worth the risk.

>>35933963
Women do not have a problem with that either. Nice guy is just woman-speak for not attractive.

>>35933935

I'm the person you replied too and I am a man. I would never watch to be friends with your sour, rotten, terrible personality. Go back to empathy school and get the fuck out of here.

>>35933901
>>35933906

Women are:
Lying
Manipulative
Back stabbing
Boring
Have a puddle depth of understanding in their so called "hobbies" which they only pretend to like for social status
Whiny
Entitled
Full of drama
Needy
Possessive
Clingy
Bitchy
Cunty
Boring
Gossipy
Narcissistic

The list can go on, and on, and on. If you weren't both beta virgin white knights and ever interacted with women you'd see they're awful human beings who men only put up with for their vaginas

>>35933882
Then they have nothing to complain about. When those men drop them, perhaps it's because they're bitches.

>>35933965
No, ugly guys being weird judgemental assholes makes them assholes.

>>35933989

Funny, I interact with my GF, who WAS my friend before, and she is non of those things. Oh well, I guess fuck all women right?

>>35933989
this exactly describes robots too

>>35933974

No you

original text 123

>>35933900
Why do you feel entitled to someone else's friendship?

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>>35933992
>ugh ugly guys are so weird
>wow chad is different from the other guys, how attractive of him
>ugh that ugly guy just had an opinion, what a judgemental asshole
>wow chad had an opinion, what a passionate man, I really like him for it

Women truly are oblivious.

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>>35933987
/r9k/ is not a board for numales.

>>35934035
See? You're being a weird judgemental asshole. Thanks for proving my point.

>>35933798
Because I'm actually tolerable.
>don't bitch about shit that doesn't matter
>don't expect things from anyone
>don't criticize others hobbies
>don't talk shit behind anyone's back
>don't virtue signal dumb shit

Why would anyone wanna be friends with you?

>>35933901
Nice dodge. Directly answer a question like an adult.

>>35934034

Beta: Let's be friends, I want to be friends
Girl: Ok, but I'm not interested in more than that
Beta: *sends 2000 creepy texts about giving a chance
Girl: I said we can be friends
Beta: YOU ARENT ENTITLED TO MY FRIENDSHIP WHORE CUNT

>>35934062

Good thing I am not one.

>>35934069

And yet you sit and bitch about women. I don't do all those things and I don't bitch about women all day on a board that's already over saturated with bitching about women.

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>>35934067
If I was attractive you would say:
"wow you are so honest and insightful"

>>35933976
Yeah it's definitely them to blame

>>35934006
Yes, fuck all women. Succinctly put. You're gf IS all of those things, you just have a bad case of onetitis. It'll clear up soon.

>>35933906
>>35933901

Neither of you white knighting virgins answered my question. By the off chance you're below average intelligence (common in white knights, such as yourself) I'll repeat the question to (you) directly

What do girls have to offer to a friendship
What baggage do girls bring to a friendship

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That's retarded, you're offering nothing to this deal.

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>>35934092
>Good thing I am not one.
That's where you're wrong.

>>35934098
No, because an attractive person wouldn't be so bitter and wrong about basic stuff.

>>35934085
>I am silly!!
A strawman fitting a mental child. Now be serious for once in your pathetic life: Why do you feel entitled to someone else's friendship?

>>35934113
>What do girls have to offer to a friendship

Companionship, same as any other

>What baggage do girls bring to a friendship

Depends on the girl.

Do you want to try asking a third time?

>>35934149
>tfw you proved his point not the other way around

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>>35934149
In real life, ugly girls like you always hit on me.

>>35934167
>companionship
Now you're just being purposefully vague
>depends on the girl
Now you're either being naive or purposefully dismissive.

>>35934161
Who says they're entitled to anything?

This is some beta thing you made up, dude.

"If she won't date me she isn't my friend" is you being a manchild, not choosing to not give her your friendship.

>>35934098
Do you live in your own reality? You're being a whiny bitch it doesn't matter how attractive someone is if they're bitching people will view them as whiny bitches

>>35934180
I'm a guy, and also nobody hits on you. Sorry.

>>35933286

All that pic is saying is one of two things

>they know the guy is an asshole but still like to keep him around

>they know the guy is a real friend but they don't feel obligated or enough sympathy to give the guy a chance

>>35933989
Add shallow to this list and this is basically every robot ever

>>35934180
I bet someone fapped to this image

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>>35934221
>a person is not an asshole because of how he looks
>wow what a whiny bitch judgemental asshole thing to say

>>35934210
>"If she won't date me she isn't my friend" is you being a manchild, not choosing to not give her your friendship.

What the fuck does this even mean? A woman is not entitled to be my friend anymore than I am entitled to be her boyfriend.

When I ask a girl out on a date / for sex / to be in a relationship - those are my demands.

If she fails to meet those demands, I am in no way obligated to give her a consolation prize.

>>35934192

Because you are being purposefully instigating, trying to get a narrow. specific response and fire back with a "gotcha" then sit back smug.

This isn't hard to fucking get. If you like a girl as company, and she likes you, then be friends, if you want to go deeper sure, but if BOTH are not willing to do so, then stop asking.

>>35934247
What does "give him a chance" mean? All you're saying is she is too dumb to understand her feelings, and should date you. Way to be a total asshole.

>>35934113
We literally already answered before.
And if I was actually white knighting I would tell you that you're completely right and that women should be avoided at all costs so that way no women will ever have to suffer the displeasure of talking to you

>>35934272
"Entitled to be my friend"

You betas start this by pretending to be her friend to try and show her how "nice" you are, then try and get with her through typical transparent manipulation. Nobody is saying they're entitled to be your friend.

You're literally just a manchild.

>>35934233
>I'm a guy, and also nobody hits on you.
So this you saying I am wrong? I could be wrong about your sex, but how would you know if ugly girls have hit on me? Something that has infact happened a lot.

>>35933901
kek
women will never understand the bond a close group of best bros have. it doesn't seem to be in their understanding.

all the groups of women who are supposedly "friends" all talk shit behind each others backs, and everything is a who has the best whatever competition.

with us guys, there's no judging, it's just some like minded dudes cracking jokes and sharing interests and ideas. Try having a philosophical discussion with a woman, see how that goes kek!

>>35934210
Because you imply it's an obligation and insult the anon for being too 'lazy' to work on a friendship. It's not "If she won't date me she isn't my friend", it's "No point in being in a platonic relationship with someone I view romantically". You'll understand once you mature.

>>35934304
It's pretty obvious pal.

>>35934266
> completely missing the point
I stated if someone is a whiny bitch they will be viewed as a whiny bitch regardless of how attractive they are

>>35934302
>You betas start this by pretending to be her friend to try and show her how "nice" you are, then try and get with her through typical transparent manipulation. Nobody is saying they're entitled to be your friend.

Nice projecting, but I do not. I refuse to be friends with a woman unless I am going to swiftly pursue sex.

>>35934325
It was pretty obvious to me that you are an ugly woman. Things are not always how we think they are at first glance.

>>35934287
>>35934302
So you're faggots, right? Or do you think being contrarians on /r9k/ will karmically get you pussy?

>>35934319
No you're being a baby because you're saying "if I can't have it my way then it's nothing".

I don't know how you ended your post with some condescension about being mature when you've got the mentality of an angry virgin.

I'm gonna guess men and women aren't exactly lining up to be your friend anyway.

>>35934331
No, you called me a whiny bitch. All my posts have been saying the exact same thing, which I paraphrased in my last reply.
Therefore I did infact not miss your point, I simply illustrated the irony of it.

>>35934332
>isn't friends with any women
>simultaneously tries to say what women are actually like in a friendship

>>35934360
Nobody thinks that. I'm just an adult who's had sex that wasn't paid for. Not sure about the other guy.

>>35934302
This is true.

>>35934272
This is also true.


You guys are just miscommunicating. Probably because both of you are very emotional.

>>35934282
Give him a chance as in a date or two, if you have faith or rather reason enough to believe he is actually your friend, its shouldn't be that much of a problem, I actually agree that you aren't obligated but for the most part I think you just know the guy is an asshole who will get mad if i rejected after a date or two.

>>35934381
I've been attacked by a dog in the past, but I currently don't go petting every random dog on the street I find.

Nice logic you got there, I busted through it easier than the tissues you hand to your fair maiden when she's crying about Chad

>>35934360
I don't believe what I'm doing right now will somehow inspire some girl to want to fuck me I'm simply pointing out the stupidity wrongness and whiny bitchiness of these people

>>35934375
>No you're being a baby because you're saying "if I can't have it my way then it's nothing".

>I want to have sex with you. I do not want to be friend. Period.
>Aww but I don't want sex. Let's be friends.
>Nope. Bye.

Imagine this very similar identical scenario
>I have 5$. I want tendies.
>We don't have tendies. Want a cup of water instead - 5$
>Nope. Bye.

>>35934380
I'm calling you a whiny bitch because you're being a whiny bitch. You said if you were attractive id view what you're saying as insightful but im saying you're a bitch regardless of how you look

>>35934375
>you're saying "if I can't have it my way then it's nothing".
And there's nothing wrong with that. It's better for both people in the end. Please stop implying women are stupid and naive victims. If they know the guy doesn't have platonic feelings, it's wrong to keep up a charade for their own sake.
>condescension
Perhaps you feel belittled because you're a mental child. Try fixing that.

>>35934313
>Try having a philosophical discussion with a woman, see how that goes kek!

Worked pretty well last time I did. She was insightful.

>>35934460
Women think that if they are upset, the blame is always in someone else.
Since your comment hurt her feefees, obviously you are a whiny baby, not her. She is a perfect, beautiful princess, respected philosophess and valued member of the 4chan community.

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>>35934482
and you think I am a whiny bitch, because of my posts, since that is all you know about me.
my posts all say the same thing: being an asshole doesn't have anything to do with how you look.
I was therefore correct, and you were mistaken.

>>35934092
I wasn't saying you do those things, I'm saying women do them.

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>>35934492
what is your endgame here?
how eldritch

>>35934414
I'm pointing out that you sound like a fucking idiot
You can't dismiss all criticism towards you on this topic as white knighting you retard

>>35934103
Yep.

Dhejrjtjth

>>35934375
Tbh, most women really abuse guys who are into them, so it's not a "real" friendship, more like a one-sided transaction.

Friends help each other, but most guys stuck in the "friendzone" are just being lead on by a girl who doesn't want to be clear enough to make him understand that there's no hope for him.

Yes, she'll lose the free lunches and the emotional tampon if she's clear about things, but it's the right thing to do, not the easy one. Most girls refuse to be clear, because they don't want to lose the benefits the stupid beta is providing.

At the same time, stupid beta deserves it for not coercing an answer out of the girl and just assuming it wrong. If she isn't clear, then you demand she be clear. Don't give her room to weasel out from telling how she feels and if she refuses to be clear, then drop her like a bad habit.

>>35934527
I think we fucked up im saying it doesn't matter how you look you will still be viewed as a whiny bitch
Are we saying the same thing?

>>35934549

Same as you. Futile attempts to convince the otherside you are right, trying to win that smug "I thought so" prize, and instead just get pissy.

>>35934492
>insightful
>woman
Pick one m8y

>>35934561
I think it is just that beta guys think that if they are seen being friends with women then they won't be seen as losers. They orbit a girl to raise their own social status.
Either that or they are so ego-centric they cannot stomach to realize that looks are all that matter to women and that they haven't got them.

>>35933286
When you realize that they're already getting steady chad dick it makes perfect sense

>>35933286
Translation:

Girls only have sex with Chad.

>>35934561
I feel no sympathy for guys in the "friendzone." They put themselves there voluntarily and deserve to be taken advantage of like the dumb idiots they are.

I agree with you, if you and the girl want different things, then the amicable and humane thing to do would be to just cut it off and walk away from each other.

You don't get put into the "friendzone" and strung along for years being used as an emotional tampon

She doesn't think she has a "friend" who's ulterior motive to being her friend is just getting into her pants

>>35934587
I responded to this guy. The numale in this thread who isn't you:
>>35933951

>>35934617
My man! But seriously why oh why would you come to this board with this "woman are worth more than wet slimeholes" shit? If it's true that makes life even more depressing, if not then nothing of any value is lost.

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>>35933286
The trick is making a move within the first two weeks
sometimes earlier
otherwise you get stuck
also making the early move makes it so you don't get too attached before rejection if you get rejected
and you have nobody to blame but yourself if you get friendzoned

>>35934654
Why do normies think a guy who likes a girl just wants to get into her pants? Chances are he likes her at a much deeper level.

>>35934654
That's kind of like blaming a victim of rape for being stupid and putting themselves in a bad situation, though.

Who should we blame? The people who are stupid or the people who take advantage of said stupidity?

Personally, I blame the ones taking advantage of stupid people while simultaneously calling stupid people out on being stupid.

In this case, stupid beta guys are stupid and they could easily rectify their situation, but the evil women taking advantage of them are no better.

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women are shit teir subhumans.

>>35934709
If I were a girl I wouldn't date someone I only knew for a week or two. I'd want to know them extremely well as a friend first.

>>35934712
>Chances are he likes her at a much deeper level.

So you're telling me you want a completely romantic relationship with a female and get no sex out of it? Hmmmm

>>35934713
The only reason to blame someone is so they can take responsibility and change. Women can never take responsibility for anything. They cannot stop beig women. It is therefore pointless to blame women, much like you don't blame thermites for runing your house, you just get rid off them.

>>35934724
>If I were a girl
But you're not, and you obviously sound like you've never been with a girl or seen interactions of guys who are good with girls. They meet, talk, exchange numbers, and are usually out on a date within a week.

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>>35934713
If a guy gets friend zoned it really is his fault tho. Don't use false equivalency diversionary tactics here jr.

>>35934726
Sex is PART of it, dumbfuck.

>>35934770
Sex is the MAIN part of it. Relationships do NOT work unless both partners are sexually attracted to each other. If they find each other repulsive they are friends and leave it at that.

>>35934804
But a relationship is more than sex + friendship.

>>35934724
First off, you're not a girl
Second you can get decently acquainted with someone in a week or two

>>35934815
And a relationship without sex is just a friendship, which will go nowhere.

>>35934764
And if a girl drinks herself into stupor in a room full of drug addicts, whatever happens to her next is her own damn fault as well.

Doesn't make whatever they did to her less wrong nor exempts them from fault, though.

>>35934824
>Second you can get decently acquainted with someone in a week or two
You don't even need that long. You can get acquainted with them WHILE dating - which is what most people do.

>>35933286
why can't people just accept that they don't deserve anything?

>>35934844
Why is it wrong to molest a girl who has passed out? You aren't physically hurting her. She will wake up and be exactly the same as the day before.

>>35934851
That seems so futile. I have like a 0.1% chance of getting along well with someone so setting up that many dates would take a lifetime.

>>35934880
And then you wonder why girls just want your cash.

>>35934851
>That girl is cute, I'm going to ask her out even though we will almost definitely have nothing in common

I'll never understand normies. I don't even get feelings for a girl until I've known her for ages.

>>35934302
It doesn't matter how long you were friends for. If at any point, for any reason, he decides he doesn't like you or want to be your friend any more its within his right. Friendship isn't a binding contract.

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>>35934903
Okay, not an argument.

>>35934824
You're thinking with 60s cultural values. Back then a woman's social value was very dependent on not fucking around, so yes, it'd be important to know someone before committing to them in any way.

Today, the first thing you do is date and fuck. IF the dates and fucks go well, then you consider a relationship.

We got it, now you get this
We won't wait for you to decide you're ready to settle in with the good guy. So don't ask where are all the good men when you're 35 and single.

>>35934896
>so setting up that many dates would take a lifetime.

You do realize dates aren't supposed to ALWAYS be these grandiose acts of love, right? It can be as simple as getting a coffee or hanging out or going on a walk.

You can also date multiple people at the same time and it's literally no big deal at all unless both parties have agreed to exclusivity

>>35934913
>even though we will almost definitely have nothing in common

Even if all else fails, you can still get sex out of it, which is why a lot of people do it. And if you don't it's not like you invested yourself into them like you would if you got to know them for ages.

>>35934913
Feel how you want, but you're gonna get friendzoned too all hell with that attitude

>>35934913
>I'll never understand normies.
If you have feelings for women you are a normalfag.

>>35934491
Actually this is implying the guy is an overly emotional baby.

>>35934942
"Good men" does not include robots, sorry to inform.

"Good men" are the exact same group of guys these girls had been fucking all the time, except now they'd want to commit.

They didn't want the balding fattie when they were young and they sure as hell don't want the balding fattie now. They just want Chad+, the Chad who commits.

Which of course will never happen. when they were young they were good enough for Chad to pump n dump, they were never good enough for Chad to commit. They have no chance now that they're old and saggy.

>>35934916
You sound very autistic and have clearly never been friends with someone.

If you've ever felt the need to point out to someone that you're not friends, it's 100% a transparent manbaby manipulation tactic.

It is nice to have female friends you do not want to fuck.

It keeps you social.

It keeps you sperging out when you talk to a woman.

It increases your SMV.

They can hook you up with their friends.

You can ask them questions on why bitches get crazy.

Lastly, its just nice to have friends.

>>35935012
>f you've ever felt the need to point out to someone that you're not friends

Nobody does that unless the "friend" in question is a giant cunt bag who needs a clear sign. Most people just cut ties and ghost them.

>>35934949
You can barely learn anything about someone in an hour-long date every week.

>>35934815
No, that's basically 100% of it. After a year or two you're more like roommates who have sex.

>>35935045
>dates are supposed to have a time limit

Jesus Christ, anon. I'm getting really tired of babying you on what dating is and how the majority of the human population goes about it.

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>>35933286
Shittiest bait of my life. 150 replies. Bravo

>>35935035
Not the betas in this thread.

>>35935059
Unless you're hooking up on the first date, it's not like you're going to spend eight hours together.

>>35934913
>I'll never understand normies. I don't even get feelings for a girl until I've known her for ages.

You are supposed to date them and them get feelings for them. Relationships fo not happen fast.

>>35935090
So you pick someone to date at random and hope you'll get feelings for them.

>>35934410
She had already given him a chance. Why get his hopes up with dates?

>>35935085
>it's not like you're going to spend eight hours together.

You keep the date going until one of you gets bored with the other. There's no such thing as a "time limit" for a date. Besides, once you've had your first date, and are planning on having more dates, you are no longer in the "friend pool" you're in the "potential sexual partner" pool so you can talk to them for as long as you like in between dates.

>>35934913
That's because you're a creepy clingy beta.

>>35935108
no. you start with a little interest. then you find out more about them.

you do not need much to see what interests someone else has. you can tell by where you see this other person, what clothes she is wearing etc. do you even have a type(s)

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Watching people talk about 'dating' as if it was some serious topic is truly disheartening.
Nothing is more vapid and shallow.

>>35933882
whoa, this meme is still around?

>>35935189
Why are virgins obsessed with the word "vapid"? It doesn't make you look smart.

>>35935157
>do you even have a type(s)

Loser girls who mostly stay inside and play video games for children. Basically a female clone of myself except not fat.

>>35935135
What the fuck is creepy about that?

>>35935005
>Being this bitter
This is why I keep away from this place

>>35935193
reading from threads like these r9k are the real assholes.

>>35935025
Yes, female friends.

That's very different from female who friendzoned you, though.

A female who friendzoned you will not hook you up with her friends. In fact, she might even actively try to prevent you from finding dates with other women.

Someone who friendzones you just wants the benefits they get from your unrequited love. They want you to keep courting them, so to speak. For that they need to keep stringing you along (pretending you have a chance) while simultaneously making sure you don't run off to a new target.

But that's to be expected. If you're into someone, you're already giving them too much power, which fucks with the balance necessary for a healthy friendship. It's best to befriend only women you do not want to fuck or do not care enough to fuck.

>>35935249
>>35935126

I feel bad for when a woman says hi to you, and she gets 1000 weird texts from your autistic ass.

>>35933882
Oh yeah, Pedro the drug-dealing domestic abuser is a real winner.

>>35935268
It actually goes back and forth just like a regular friendship. I talk to girls who have friendzoned me just like how I talk to all my other friends, the only difference is I desperately want her to become attracted to me.

>>35935210
Why are stupid people here? Is there any kind of rationale behind your decision to post here? Since you are an obtuse 'dating expert' I should think not.

>>35935268
Nice projecting, virgin, but I have a strict 1 starter 1 reply rule.

>>35935303
Ok this is even more autistic that you needed to make a rule for yourself.

>>35935217
so if you met a cute girl and found our all of this was true about her you wouldnt get at least interested? you wont go and try to find out if she fits whatever else you are looking for?

dating is all about finding out if you really want to be with each other while keeping the other person interested, yes this means more work for the guy and that is just the way it is. girls are more valuable to society when it comes to relationships.

>>35935302
I don't think obtuse means what you think it does.

>>35935268
Joke's on you, I'm actually gay.

To be honest, I have exactly one woman I'd call a friend, though. Women are not very good at being friends, so if you don't want to fuck them, it's very rare that one of them is pleasant enough to be around.

>>35935313
>hurr durr I'm gonna say you do this with no proof
>hurr what you do the opposite wellll hurr that's even lamer

Fuck off, retard. If you don't click with a woman well enough that a conversation is organic and back and forth, she's not worth your time

>>35935249
that is exactly what i said. if you have been a friend with a girl long enough and had feelings for her since the start you over comitted. You deserve nothing really. Be faster next time.

>>35935354
I have the feeling you're taking your virgin anger out on me. It explains the total autism.

>>35935352
shhh he's a virgin white knight, let him keep putting the pussy on a pedastal

>>35935333
Yes, that is the angle you are trying to pursue. "you don't speak exclusively in ebonics so you are a prentetious pseudo-intellectual for sure".
Two can play that game. Your pedantic insistence on having me limit my vocabulary does not make you seem hip or laidback, just insecure and obviously upset.

>>35935315
I've only met grls who fit that bill online, living thousands of miles away.

I wouldn't ask her out or anything unless she'd given some indication that she might be interested. Otherwise I'd rather retain the illusion that I have a chance instead of getting rejected and having any hope whatsoever shattered.

>>35935384
"I said pussy on a pedestal so everyone knows how I'm cool with women".

Typical

>>35935375
You're the one offering absolutely nothing to the conversation but random, unverified, and completely unsubstantiated attacks. So either add something of value to the conversation, or go back to wizchan

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guys, things generally don't work in the complex way we imagine.
We are not nice, we're not interesting.

>>35935407
Pussy on a pedestal is a legitimate and common thing. Just because you do it and you get called out on it doesn't make it any less real. No reason to get butthurt about it

>>35935364
How are guys supposed to learn all this? Girls don't say that during the let's-just-stay-friends speech.

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And once again another relationship thread devolves into namecalling and saying people are unlikable. Never change r9k

>>35935397

I get it. You're a dumb insecure virgin.

>>35935433
>How are guys supposed to learn all this?
Through trial and error. I don't think there's many people who can boast that they've never been """friendzoned"""" by at least one girl - it's just most people have that lesson, and learn that lesson, in middle school

>>35935432
Basically only virgins say it. It's your code word.

>>35935403
>Otherwise I'd rather retain the illusion that I have a chance instead of getting rejected and having any hope whatsoever shattered.

You gotta get used to the rejection bro. Its not about how bad you get knocked down but how quick you can get back up.

Anyway I get its hard to meet your type. They do not go out often so you could meet them irl.

>>35935476
>basically only virgins would say this

You'd know wouldn't you

>>35933286

Yes, I do. Why are you talking to me like that? Men have no in-group preference, there is no connected male psyche where we think of ways to rule the world and oppress women.

But, in my view, women need to understand that a guy has every right to just leave if she isn't going to give them a sex (or sex and a relationship). It sounds horrible, but that's life. Nobody should stick around and orbit for nothing!

>>35935458
It is all the same to women, isn't it? Intelligence matters to the extent it can help you have sex. A virgin must be dumb.

people complaining about "friendzone" when some of us can barely make friends at all

>>35933286
Maybe that relationship isn't as perfect as you thought if one party perceives it drastically differently than the other.

>>35935469
I always thought I would eventually find a girl I connected with and we'd mutually fall in love like in the movies. Wonder why other guys didn't fall into that.

>>35935517

Because movies are make believe and most people live in the real world

>>35935487
Yeah I was a virgin until I was 15. You're kind of a failure as a man if you're a virgin past 16.

>>35935433
learn all what really?

>>35935489
No, you're clearly dumb and clearly a virgin.

>>35935540
>claims to not be a virgin
>white knights throughout the entire thread
>a femanon has yet to offer him sex

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>35935482
The thing is, girls I get along with are so rare that if one rejects me and I can't talk to her anymore as a result, it'll be like a year until I find another. I'm not like you where every other girl is a potential gf.

>>35935564
>femanon has yet to offer him sex

What kind of beta waits for women?

>>35933463
>girls only date assholes
This is jelous middle schooler fagboy logic. Girls typically won't go for a nice guy's douche bag counterpart. They will go for a plain looking guy's attractive counter part. Being pleasant will help one's chances when dating and making friend's.
>>35933685
>years
If they weren't dating after 2-3 weeks tops after meeting, it's reasonable to say they're not into each other.
>>35934913
>until I've known her for ages
Possible. What's more likely is that it takes you a while to get comfortable enough talking to a girl, because you lack confidence or the proper social aptitude to even consider the possibility of sharing romantic feelings with someone. That said, I knew my first girlfriend for about a year prior to dating her. But that was when we were teenagers, which can be a whole different rhelm.

>>35935562
Clearly everything you say is the truth. Female intuition am I right?

>>35935571
You can be friends with a girl without getting put into the friendzone, if getting along with them is really that important to you.

The key difference between "just friends" and "friend zone" is that when you're friends it's 50/50 and she's obviously not using you

>>35935364
What?

You can't just "be friends" with a person you want to fuck. You can hide the fact that you want to fuck, but then you're juts a manipulative cunt.

If you want to fuck someone and you befriend them, the friendship will be VERY different from one formed any other way and the only way to prevent that is for you to not want to fuck the other person in the first place.

The way to do that is to either befriend ugly people, befriend them while you're in a happy relationship that you don't want to end or befriend them while you actually want to fuck someone else.

>>35935517
you will mutually fall in love. that shit takes effort. and you need to meet the girl first.

>>35935596
I'm a guy, so probably not that. You're just pretty transparent.

>>35935553
That you don't have a chance with a girl if you don't make a move immediately, or that attraction doesn't tend to grow over time if you aren't in a relationship, or that you women are more interested in excitement than stability.

>>35935530
But the real world never shows us any of this unless you read PUA shit.

>>35935594
You seem to be seeing how you've been constantly BTFO throughout the entire thread for being a white knight - hoping that a femanon will drop her gmail so you can finally get your pen0r touched

>>35935625
Uh, not really. Virgins like you are pretty high and mighty for some reason. It's weird considering you're a failure as a man.

>>35935621
>But the real world never shows us any of this unless you read PUA shit.

Most normal people don't need a guide to be normal

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>>35935615
>I'm a guy
Sure.
>describes stupidity as transparent
Yes, a master of language here.

>>35935614
Mutually fall in love WITHOUT BEING IN A RELATIONSHIP, and it turns out she'd been waiting for you to ask her out or some shit.

>>35935595
>If they weren't dating after 2-3 weeks tops after meeting, it's reasonable to say they're not into each other.

More likely that one isn't into the other.

>>35935660
Wait so you're admitting you're stupid?

>>35935642
>gets BTFO
>Starts throwing unsubstantiated insults at me
>Starts projecting
>acts condescending

Boy I've really struck some nerves through your entire life mantra haven't I

>>35935648
So people are just programmed with knowledge like making a move immediately?

>>35935666
>Mutually fall in love WITHOUT BEING IN A RELATIONSHIP, and it turns out she'd been waiting for you to ask her out or some shit.

This is what every woman wants. A spineless lazy beta.

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>>35935669
I can hardly say I am surprised at your bewilderment.

>>35935676
Yes, a lot of people are actually. They learned very early in life - probably before they could walk - that the strong and fast get what they want

>>35935612
trick is to not want to date them. you could find someone attractive but would not make any moves because its not worth anything.

>>35935621
women want both excitement and stability. guys want to too. you gotta learn how to be flirty and keep sexual tension high. how to signal to them you are interested without going all out.

>>35935673
I don't think you've btfo'd me or upset me once. Sorry this is all you can resort to.

>>35935718
So you're just:
>Starts throwing unsubstantiated insults at me
>Starts projecting
>acts condescending

Naturally as a person? And you have the gall to act superior? Get a grip and sort yourself out

>>35935666
>Mutually fall in love WITHOUT BEING IN A RELATIONSHIP, and it turns out she'd been waiting for you to ask her out or some shit.

Dude how old are you? How many times has your heart been broken?

>>35935718
>>35935748
It is totally impossible to tell the two of you apart. Both are like monkeys calling each other virgins.

>>35935701
k

comment too low in content

>>35935788
Stay out of our argument unless you have something construcive to add. This is your one free (you) so try harder next time

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>>35935794
How nonchalant. What a radical individual.

>>35933900
Women are just terrible friends

>>35935813
You don't have an argument. You just have a shit-flinging contest. No different from the apes that are your ancestors.

>>35935765
I realized this wasn't how it worked in real life a long time ago, but it's what I thought up until high school.

I'm 24, only one heartbreak. I've never been comfortable talking to girls IRL, so the only ones I converse with are femanons who live hundreds or thousands of miles away.

>>35935843
I doubt the guys saying "if we can't have sex don't talk to me" make good friends either.

>>35935788
You're awful at analogies.

Also how far into a friendship did you get to be a girls emotional tampon?

I am friends with people for a long time and a lot of them wouldn't choose me to talk about their lives. I got only 1 or 2 real friends like that.

>>35935889
Guys who use the phrase "emotional tampon" generally are way more emotional than any chick.

>>35935870
>if we can't have sex don't talk to me

Nobody in this entire thread has said that at all. This entire thread has been a debate between whether you owe the girl your friendship after she rejects you

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>>35935887
Yes, what an ill-fitting comparison to make.

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Here's the real one

>>35935863
until highschool is about right. Female friends you keep yourself from falling for is good warm up and practice. Always better to have a few female friends around than a girl friend. Like if its in work just someone you can have lunch of coffee with time to time and not talking every day.

>>35933900
Have you ever met a woman?

>>35933906
>this post

Hahaha, do YOU have friends? How can you be this delusional, just because you're trying to defend womyn?

Hanging out with a guy and hanging out with a girl is very different, fucking numale

>>35935910
I've had more than one female friend who expects me to help her with her boyfriend problems and lashes out when I don't come up with a solution she likes.

>>35935912
But saying you owe somebody friendship is retarded.

>>35935910
this has to be true. wtf is going on with other people's lives that everything is drama? sometimes people just message you because they want to ask your thoughts on the latest crazy youtube tend.

>>35935666
>More likely that one isn't into the other.
Okay Mr. Satan trips man, but not many adult men will linger around waiting to ask a girl out for more than a few weeks. It's something middleschoolers do, because their balls just dropped and they don't know how girls work. I don't know if you agree with the person who claimed that a girl is manipulating a guy if she's nice to a guy for years without going out with him, but if a girl goes more than a few weeks of talking to a guy, and they aren't dating, 999/1000 times, there's a lack of interest on at least one of their parts.

>>35935931
I've never had a female friend IRL. I can't even function around girls my age. When I was talking with the guys during lunch in high school and some girls sat at the same table, I'd clam up and become unable to think of anything to say. I don't think I've ever had a conversation with a girl under 30 in the flesh.

>>35935953

It's the girls who's saying it.
Girls don't owe guys their vaginas and sex - True.
In return, Guys do not owe women their friendship. Yet this seems to be impossible for people to understand.

If I want to have a romantic relationship with a girl, but she doesn't - It's perfectly acceptable. Okay I'm fine with that

But then if the girl says "we can just be friends" yet I say I don't want that and cut her out of my life SUDDENLY I'm the villainous ass hole. Why? Do I owe her my friendship?

>>35935666
>Mutually fall in love WITHOUT BEING IN A RELATIONSHIP, and it turns out she'd been waiting for you to ask her out or some shit.
This is some Hollywood cinematic shit. This stuff doesn't actually happen to people.

>>35935951
Sounds like you're a cuck, pal. She's not doing anything to you, you're doing this to yourself.

>>35936027
See >>35935863, that dawned on me partway through high school when guys started getting girlefriend without having hung out with them much prior.

>>35936009
at least you can talk to guys right?

just practice. it gets easier.

>>35936020
Friendship isn't something you hold hostage. You sound like a shitty friend, and this "owing friendship" nonsense is how you pretend you choose to not have friends. Get over yourself.

>>35936070
Nice friday night spent trolling people by pretending to be a retarded womyn.

>>35936070

I'm not holding my friendship "hostage."

Is it really that hard for you to understand that I ONLY want a romantic relationship with a girl, and I do NOT want to be her friend?

Besides, I have friends. Guy friends and girl friends. Valuing someone as a friend is completely different than valuing them as a potential life mate.

>>35936064
With other guys I'm sort of awkward unless I've knwn them for years, but I can get by. Haven't had real-life friends since college four years ago though.

>>35933286
I've never been beta enough to be nice to girls, but "nice guy" hate and exploitation is one of the most disgusting things I have seen on the internet.
/r/niceguys is a hellhole.

>>35936121

Here, let me clear up what I said with a real life example:

I had a girlfriend. We loved each other very passionately at one point and the relationship was great. Then she - more or less - out of the blue broke it off. Never got a reason, still had, and still do have, very strong romantic feelings for her.

Would it be fair to EITHER of us for me to pretend to be just her friend? Be friends with a girl who didn't even respect me enough to tell me the reason why we broke up? Would it be fair to her or me, to pretend to be her friend while I still had feelings for her, with me goal the entire friendship being to get back together with her?

No, it would not. It would have been deceitful, dishonest, and disrespectful.

>>35936161
>"nice guy" hate and exploitation is one of the most disgusting things I have seen on the internet.

This, "nice guy" behaviour is just a completely understandable fear of rejection. If you like a girl but don't want to have your chances ruined by being turned down, what else are you going to do?

>>35936205
>what else are you going to do

How about just be her friend without having the secret motive of making her fall in love with you? Because she and you both agreed you were going to be just friends - yet "nice guys" are pulling the rug out from under their feet.

If you genuinely like the girl as a friend - be her friend. If you're just trying to be underhanded and deceitful (some "nice" guy there), then you're only asking to get your heart broken

>>35936161
>>35936205

They pretend not to be this way, but the women on /r/niceguys hate "men these days" and pretty much all average and low-value men. Only Chad gets a pass from them. I've seen them openly talk about it before.

Why do so many women complain about "men these days"? I'm tired of seeing it.

>>35936239
>Because she and you both agreed you were going to be just friends

When?

Also it hurts way too much to just resign yourself to staying friends when you want more so badly.

>>35936307
>When?

When she said "let's be friends" and you didn't object

>>35936342
No girl has ever said this outright.

The Nice Guy's hope is that friendship will develop into something more with enough patience and gentle nudging.

>>35936342
Did she get his explicit consent though?

>>35936205
>fear of rejection
That's all on you; not her. I'm completely against women being manipulative to a guy who has feelings for her, but you didn't even make your feelings known to her. Is she clairvoyant? Did she consult with the spirits and ordained that you had romantic feelings for her? No.

Don't try passing the buck onto someone else when it's YOUR fear of rejection that is causing YOU pain

>>35936244
DIFFERENT REPRODUCTIVE STRATEGIES

>>35936404
He's waiting for her to give a sign before he gives a sign.

>>35936384
>gentle nudging.
You mean manipulation?

There's a reason most girls rag on the "nice guys" and it's because they completely see through your "nice" persona and see you all as manipulative and underhanded

>>35936435
Then why do they never call them out on it directly? By nudging I meant extremely subtle flirting.

>>35936435
No, it is solely because the guy is not attractive.

>>35936423
I want you to do an experiment for me. Go onto craigslist personals and make a catfishing ad pretending to be a girl - just any plain average girl.

Within 24 hours I guarantee you that your catfish account will have dozens, if not hundreds, of guys who are all making the first move.

That is what's happening to these girls irl every second of every day, and you're the guy who's not even answer the ad

>>35936517
The Nice Guy logics is, "Why would she go out with any of those guys she hardly knows when she's learned she can depend on me?"

>>35933286
Reminder: If you hate women and aren't okay with being friends with them then a relationship with one isn't going to work.

>>35933286
Lies, I really like this other girls but I don't want to sleep with her because she is good friends with me. But reality I would most likely sleep with her because I am a bislut.

The reason girls don't sleep with you is because you are a loser or ugly. This 5'4" manlet has been trying to fuck me for years now but he is just too small for me. I would sleep with a guy who is below 5'7" since I am 5'7". That five seven guy better be hot as fuck though.

>>35936533
>logic

That's hardly the right word when their thought process gets disproved within the first hour of knowing a girl.

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>>35933286
No I don't get it. Please explain it to me again.

>>35933286
This is spelling it out pretty plainly. If they date a beta orbiter, they lose the beta orbiter when they inevitably break up. It's not worth it in the long run.

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>>35935239
No way, assholes? On 4chan?

>>35934302
>tfw these virgins are arguing about roasties
>tfw befriend virgin 25 year old girl over the course of a year
>enjoy her companionship because I am not a faggot that thinks with only my dick
>she slowly asks me all these questions about sex and shit
>me being an open and straightforward guy I just answer her questions
>hung out with her last night
>spend 2 solid hours feeling her body, grabbing her bare tits and cuddling whilst she was nervously stroking my cock

Pretty sure she wants to try sex

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>>35933760
>most adults are actually functional people who can get along with each other regardless of gender
>t. Hasn't talked to an actual person since his Xbox headset broke

>>35936533
Actually, nice guy logic is: when I have befriended this woman, we will naturally fall in love, just like in the movies.

>>35936639
Go for it, bro. She's all in your imagination and your imagination can make her do anything she wants. I love larping too.

>>35933286
>girl doesn't relationship because I'm a nice guy and we are friends
>slap girl in the face
>we are no linger friends
>I'm clearly not nice
>girl still doesn't want relationship
????

Kill aII women.

>>35933286
>making friends with women
>ever

>>35936639
I'm friends with a bunch of girls and none ever ask me sexua questions. Are you really handsome?

>>35934210
>they're
He's asking you, you dumb slut.

>women are so stupid that they can't even hold a conversation for 2 posts

>>35936702
He's larping for (you)s, newfag.

>>35936663
I am serious about this happening last night, why does r9k never wants anyone to succeed

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>>35934550
>I'm pointing out that you sound like a fucking idiot
The point is to make HIM look like an idiot, not make it obvious how BTFO your virginal ass is

>>35936725
Because your story is obviously made up and you're full of shit.
>25 year old virgin
>friends with a robot
>Asks him sex questions
>Lets him make out with her like they're 14

Your entire post read like it came out of the mind of a 15 year old boy.

>>35936725
>why does r9k never wants anyone to succeed

Well you're a fucking normie for one.

>>35936725
Misery loves company. His only solace is feeling superior to robots.

>>35936702
Ummm
Honestly man, that girl is a virgin I talked to. When we hung out last night I asked why she didn't ask her friends who had sex before.
>she just told me that I am a honest guy who is open about those things

Keep in mind though every single person is different.

>>35936712
Im not larping fag

>>35936725
I want robots to succeed, and then leave the board.

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These threads just serve to kill your self-esteem don't they?

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>>35936639
>stuff that totally happened
No one stops at second base in 2017, you turbo virgin loser

>>35933286

the mistake here is that people dont establish what they really want from a girl in the first place

>>35936782
>not larping
>claims a 25 year old virgin girl is slutting it up with a robot, of all people

Yeah sorry, bud. I'll call myself a jackass and say you're right if you can prove to me that you have such a high sexual value that you're able to charm the virginity out of a female who's held out until she's 25.

>>35936782
Must be easy to just be friends with girls when you know you could get a gf or fuckbuddy any time you wanted. All we want is one girl who wants us to be more than friends.

>>35936435
If those girls are so shrewd, why do they want to be in relations with such terrible people? Either girls are stupid or as underhanded and manipulative as the 'nice guys'. Can't have it both ways.

>>35936828
He isn't a robot, he specified he's nor a virgin.

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>>35936782
>not larping
>d-d-dude I swear she was a virgin

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>>35933530
if your post wins you oregon trail

>>35936404
>Is she clairvoyant? Did she consult with the spirits and ordained that you had romantic feelings for her?
Is she retarded? I simply don't buy that they don't know anything. You are making excuses.

>>35936754
I know it sounds fucking cringy, but it happened whether you like it or not. I am a straightforward kind of guy and trust me, I do not have the creativity to come up with such a story. I myself am just still processing what happened last night and it felt so dreamlike. Well we are both virgins and even I struggle to believe I found a pretty virgin girl whom is 25.

If you don't want to believe me that is fine, but it happened.

>>35936842
>he's nor a virgin.
He most definitely is, and so are you if you actually believe that autistic fantasy.

>>35936855
I've already typed this up >>35936517

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>>35936867
>creativity to come up with such a story
>implying
Give it up

>>35936867
>Well we are both virgins
>Answers questions about sex to a girl to her face
>But doesn't have the creativity to make up a short green text over the internet

Your entire story is falling apart with every post

>>35936875
you are the one being autistic here, wanting to fit human behavior into into what are effectively equations.
human behavior is random and mindless

>>35936782
>we hung out last night

How does this even happen? I'd be too worried she'd think I was asking her out.

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>>35936922
>wanting to fit human behavior into into what are effectively equations.
Saying this after calling someone autistic is like teaching fire safety with bottle rockets and kerosene.

>>35933900
>holding a genuine friendship with a women
>calling yourselves a """man"""

>>35936942
>How does this even happen?
It didn't, Einstein. It's beta RP

Well, in freshman year I became best friends with this one guy, we were friends all throughout high school. But when I first met him I also met his sister who I instantly had a crush on. I was fat and kind of short back then and also pretty autistic, I would say a lot of random dumb shit around her which I'm sure turned her off. I was worse then friend zoned by her, she didn't even want to be around me because she was so turned off by me and didn't even want to be seen by me around her friends. Fast forward to senior year I start to get semi attractive and I got a truck and I started smoking weed and so one day I just asked her if she would hang and smoke with me and she said yeah, she came over my house that day and we smoked together. We built this friendship and it got to the point where we'd hang out every single day I even spent the night at her house for days straight and her brother no longer lived with her and her mom was always cool with me being there with her since I was "like a son" to her. The girl though, she pretty much put me in the brother zone, which at the time I was okay with it but eventually I just couldn't help myself and I wanted to fuck her so bad, I was straight up afraid of her rejecting me and never wanting to be around me anymore. So i never made a move at that time. Fast forward to a few months ago and I'm a sophomore in college and I lost my car so I could hardly ever see her anymore. She even got a boyfriend which really fucking sucked. But one night I went to a party and got crazy drunk, came home and called her and told her I was going to die that night and I just wanted to see her one last time. She hung up and had her boyfriend drive all the way to my place and she came to my room and I opened the door for her and she ran in and hugged me so tight. She said she was so glad I was okay, we hugged for like a whole minute and to be quite honest it was the sweetest and most genuine 60 seconds of my life, just holding her

>>35936994
Good thing we have alphas like yourself to expose the insidious beta roleplay. Nothing makes women wetter than the impotent insistence than another poster is lying on 4chan.

>>35936885
So she's retarded. Despite her experience, she assumes for no good reason the 'nice guy' is likely to be any different for not being as forward. Your hypothetical presents someone who is hopelessly naive.

>>35936435
What exactly makes you think that the guy being nice is only persona? Is it really out of the realm of possibility that the guy is genuinely nice and that he just (mistakenly) believes that being nice will also just so happen to endear the girl to him? Why are you assuming malice on the guy's part by default?

You're making it sound like the guy is only ever nice to the girl and an absolute monster to everyone else.

>gentle nudging is manipulation
How is giving subtle hints manipulation?

>>35937045
You don't need to be an alpha to spot obvious bullshit, you just need to not be a gullible fucking retard. Do you take every single post on 4chan seriously, or only the ones that make your dick hard

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>>35936897
>be honest about everything
>always just answer questions straight up
>finally something good happens
>be happy about it
>thought I share how good it felt to have a girl stroke your dick whilst fondling her C cup firm breast
>skin was smooth as fuck

Believe it or not, up to you

>>35936942
Well the reason we hung out was actually what happened that day was.
>stand at a traffic light with friends
>talk about what we gonna do this holiday
>I mention that I need to find a job
>some guy in front of me sorta tries to join in and says, yes me too
>catch a glimpse of his phone
>it is a pic of a full ripped man with an erection full on naked
>the guy goes back to himself looks at his phone and says "woops"
>share this story with Maria over messenger
>she asks me if I am free tonight

She asked me

>>35937093
I didn't say I believed or disbelieved him. All I did was point out the irony of you calling it beta.

>>35937133
I'm not the guy you originally replied to. I'm one of the many other anons who's calling him out on his obvious larping

>>35937086
>What exactly makes you think that the guy being nice is only persona?
It is a part of his go-getter just world ideology. People always get what they deserve and so on and so forth.

>>35937018
>>35937018
CONTINUED:

Like she was mine, it felt so good hugging her. We sat on my bed and me being drunk I started to confess my love for her, she was in complete shock since we've been friends for so long and I've never made a move on her. I started hugging her some more holding on to her as long as I wanted. I whispered to her while staring into her eyes *can I have a kiss* she pretends to be Grossed out but then she smiled and said I could kiss her on the cheek. I then reached in and went for her lips, at first she was surprised and made no lip movement with my lips, but I kept my lips locked with hers and we started making out. She was enjoying it. The girl of my dreams, the one who I thought I'd never have a shot with, here I am in my room making out with this girl, we made out for five minutes and she let me grab her ass and everything. She felt bad since her boyfriend was outside, but when we were done I looked her in the eyes and told her I love her. She told me she loves me too. And then she had to leave. That was four months ago, today I hardly keep in touch with her, every now and then she'll message me on Facebook asking me if I want to buy some weed from her. Every now and then she'll come by and sell me the weed. But it's just so awkward and she won't even let me touch her. To this day i Miss her and want her back, but I'm continuing to live my life because I really don't need her. I'm in college and I just need to focus on me, maybe one day if it's meant to be, will be together and work things out. Maybe, but I'm not counting on it.

>>35937121
This is exactly why Nice Guys keep talking to girls for a year without showing interest, hoping shit like that will happen.

>>35937192
If you're going to make us read a wall of text you could at least organize it coherently, jerk.

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>>35936802
Just a bunch of norms who don't know what they're talking about. Pursue a life of virtue and let no one tell you you're wrong.

>>35933606
> enjoying the girl's company as a friend?

name one way that is possible that doesn't involve filling them with cum

>>35933530
This. Every woman I've tried to have "guy conversations" with just sits there and listens intently, no input, which is good if I'm feeling lonely and just want someone to preach to but women aren't meant to socialize with men as men do with men.

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>>35937213
Well it worked for me. And desu I could link you all the weird shit she asked me and all the times she teased me. I am still confused on what this girl wants but I regardless I like where this is going.

>>35937121
>be honest about everything
Nah
You talk like a virgin trying to describe the feel of a woman and coming up with nothing but "smooth".

Quit RPing on 4chan, and you might eventually have a shot at touching a girl, loser

>>35937292
>nah man

Okay I was giving you a suspension of disbelief but you blew it there. Fake/10

>>35937045
Thats the most hopelessly beta comment I've ever read.

No wonder you white knight women on 4chan. You're retarded enough to think they come here.

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>>35937293
Now this makes me feel smug

>>35937242
I have a couple female friends who give equal input in conversation, but it mainly depends on their mood. Nine times out of ten when I add a new girl from /r9k/ it's nothing but one-word answers and no returned questions.

>>35937292
>tfw never been asked to hang out by a girl

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>>35937327
Feel as smug as you want. The feel of a woman is better.

>>35937322
One. I have never whiteknigthed a woman.
Two. Women do come here. It happens all the time. They are not some regal, other-worldly creatures who are too good to come here. Sounds like you are the whiteknight, really.

>>35933645
this has been more or less my strategy
all my close friends have been male, any female i know is an acquaintance at best

>>35937315
Im chill with her that is just how we talk.

But I don't care actually, browsing this website is frustrating because all you guys deluded yourself that women are only a vagina with no personality and that all woman are sluts who are only good for sex.
Try treating other people like human beings for a change. I don't really care whether you believe me or not, I hung out with her because she is a nice person to talk to, just like all my other friends. Well I got shit to do today like work and study so see you guys later.

>>35937480
Come back with a believable larp next time, bro. You only got 3 idiot virgins to believe you this time - step your game up. See yah, have a great day

>>35933645
No. The idea is to be attractive. I have only ever befriended ugly women(because attractive women have made me very nervous), and after a while I have always had to break up the friendship, because they wanted to take it further.
As long as you are attractive, women will tolerate any behavior, because women get their idea of acceptable behavior from looking at men they think are attractive. You literally cannot go wrong if you are attractive.