MBTI THREAD

>>35634528
>ENTPs are seen as gods on this board
ENTJ are true master race. I'm INTJ but when I get drunk I get all E and can do anything. I wish I was like that sober.

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>>35634528
>>35634686
Both are seen as cunts by the general public. True god-mode is ENFP and if you disagree you are either a retarded sensor or one of the above mentioned.

>>35635197
DUDE!1!!!!111!!!!!111

>>35635262
WEED!1!!!!!!1

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INFJ Discord still recruiting, not nearly enough people in here as expected with being something like 1.5% of the population.

A new land for INFJs to feel at home, however, all types welcome realistically you could just lie.

Come to our shit, empty server already, we don't know what we're doing:

https://discord.gg/UXudvSw

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>>35635197
>F
pig disgusting emotive normies

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>>35634528
>I have taken the test 10 times and got ENTP 8 times, INTP the other two times.

You are only ever one type throughout your whole life, and although you can realise your shadow functions, there isn't an inbetween I/E, N/S etc. They deal in absolutes.

>obligatory read up on your cognitive functions

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>>35635484
It works on how you make decisions, not levels of empathy. Fight me m8.

>t. rustled INFJ

ESFP but the description is a bit off.

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>>35635197
>Both are seen as cunts by the general public.

>caring about what the "general public" thinks

>>35635484
>he fell for the "F = dumb normies, T = intellectual patricians" meme

>>35635570
>Heh... I go my own way because I'm a badass
>FUCK haters and FUCK normies. :^) I'm unique and I go my own way

Please stop breathing my air non-enfp filth.

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>>35635510
>making decisions based on how you feel and not based on cold, hard fact
>>>/out/

>>35635614
Did I trigger your fee-fees, friend?

>>35635632
>Having an "E" in your description at all
people like you fuck up society and don't even care about it because
>meh, I won't live to see it anyway.
In other words, extroverts are the biggest niggers.

>>35635654
>making decisions based on how you feel and not based on cold, hard fact
but that's not how it works

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>>35635632
>choosing to follow the herd rather than do what you personally want to do

Literally why? Explain your reasoning to me.

INFP whinerrace here


at least i got a gf

>>35635660
Aren't there supposed to be more Is than there are Es? If anything, self-centred, self-absorbed Is who have no interest in influencing and improving their external world and are motivated entirely by their own prosperity are more cancerous to society.

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>>35635660
>>35635660
>Having people skills is bad

stay mad autistcucks

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>>35635654
Everyone uses "facts" whatever said facts may be. Someone that deliberately ignore their own version of the truth is a mongoloid. If you didn't think you were following the truth, why would you do it?

It's how you feel about the facts. You talk like you think you're a literal calculator.

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>>35635682
Describe to me why I should be serving society.

>>35635706
also meant for>>35635671

>>35635662
Literally knowing what people want and feel and making decisions based off of that is one of the most valuable skills you can have. How people perceive the world is reality to them. You need to be aware of that if you want to be successful.

>>35635671
Groups can do things individuals can not

>>35635706
I didn't even say that having people skills is bad you fucking brainlet.
I said that extroverts are always the biggest degenerates and ruin anything in the long run but I don't expect much from an extrovert retard who has the attention span of a fucking fly.

>>35635660
>Be E
>Want to shake up the world and leave a mark on it
>Base your intellectual and social pursuits around making an impact and creating external value
>Acquire a large circle of friends who appreciate your company as much as you appreciate theirs
>Get a job that allows you to improve the world around you in your own unique way
>Die knowing that you will be remembered by others as a humanitarian and a bro

>Be I
>Want to do whatever makes you happy personally
>Base your intellectual and social pursuits around achieving your personal goals with no consideration for anyone else's
>Have little to no friends because you either shrink into yourself around other people or it's apparent to them that you're more concerned with yourself than actually connecting with them
>Get a job that lets you do whatever you want and fuck everyone else
>Die not knowing/caring that everyone thought you were an autistic faggot

>>35635734
>Extroverts are degenerates who ruin society!
>Why should I do anything for society?

Introvert logic, everyone.

>>35635752
Yeah, that's reasonable, you expect people to make a compromise somewhere. I feel sometimes people are sacrificing too much, though. I was mostly just feeling in the mood to be pissy about normies being the same 4 people copied over and over again.

>>35635786
More just a general question for you than a poke at that specific post. Why should I? I'm not particularly interested in society as a whole, or the individuals in it.

>>35635776
this tbqh

>>35635706
Being extraverted by definition means you have people skills. If anything, I types are too self absorbed to give a shit about anything other than themselves, much less society.

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>>35635614
>obligatory bar graph posted in every second thread attempting to promote discussion

>>35635849
meant partially for>>35635771

>>35635849
>Being extraverted by definition means you have people skills. If anything, I types are too self absorbed to give a shit about anything other than themselves, much less society.
As much as I would want to argue otherwise, as an INFJ, he is correct by definition. In the context of MBTI, introverts is bases their information in an internal world, whereas extroverts base themselves amongst the concrete, real world.

Sensor here. Is there anything more useless than an intuitive?

INFP: literally known for creating furry porn fan fictions
ENFP: wow tell me more about your feminist philosophy
INTP: wow tell me more about useless trivia facts
ENTP: wow you like to argue on the internet you are truely an amoral psychopath
INTJ: wow you know a lot about nihilism what a super genius you are

>>35635891
Any sensor: wow tell me more about literally nothing since you have no personality

>>35635891
Fair point, although you could nitpick for retards with underdeveloped cognitive functions amongst any type and find shit like this.

Out of curiosity, what do you think of INFJ/ENTJ/ENFJ?

>>35635891
Sensor: the crippling knowledge of what a dull, generic piece of shit I am with no hopes and dreams and no interest in having any means that I spend most of my life drowning myself in alcohol, drugs and mind-numbing forms of escapism in the hopes that it'll be enough to keep me from going insane and shooting up whichever wageslave institution I'm currently stuck in.

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>>35635933
SENSIES BTFO

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>>35635933
Ni/Ti feels are pretty good, man.

>>35635891
ISFP: wow tell me more about your categorised knowledge of some artsy bullshit or animals
ESFP: wow tell me more about your categorised knowledge of some artsy bullshit or animals or memes
ISTP: wow tell me more about how you literally care about nothing besides getting drunk/high and having sex
ESTP: wow tell me more about how you literally care about nothing besides getting drunk/high, having sex and being da alpha
ISTJ: wow tell me more about how your entire life is based around getting the best paying, most secure job you can find, impregnating and marrying the most secure woman you can find, repeating the same day for the rest of your natural born life and dying.

jesus what is it even like being an istj

>>35635495
true. I mean if you think about how you've been acting ever since childhood it becomes clear that to a large degree you've been the same person ever since then.

And if i'm not mistaken introversion and extroversion is something inherent in your brain, nothing you can really change about that, as with the other cognitive functions. It is simply the way your brain is wired.

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>>35635971
You could only hope to change what your functions before you're about 6/7, from what I gather. They're still extremely underdeveloped at that point, with only the primary really showing through. Doubt any kids are smart enough at that age to try to plan for their cognitive functions though.

Also, is it just me, or are these threads getting more informed? It's pretty comfy.

>>35635971
>>35635495

Anyone know any theories on how personality types come to be? Like what caused you to be an XXXX? Is it genetic? Is it enviromental? I have no clue.

I've heard that peoples personalities can change based on the circumstances the mother is in while the baby is in the womb. If the mother is constantly stressed, then that sends a signal that you're in a rough period, so the kid will grow up to be very brave and risk taking and so on...maybe that relates to MBTI types

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Which types would you guys say were more likely to be Wojakcore? Or, Pepecore?

>>35636081
mostly pepe, some wojak

>>35636081
Wojak
>INFP
>INFJ
>ENFP

Pepe
>INTJ
>ISTJ
>ISTP
>INTP

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>>35636080
Post type and childhood environment, lets see if we spot any patterns. No whinging, be objective and realistic.

>INFJ

>parents were both druggies
>violent divorce when I was around 3
>both get new partners
>mother usually pleasant, other than low stress tolerance
>father a caring and introspective man, but ruined by alcohol, had a few fights in teenage years
>experimented with psychedelics
>very few, or no friends consistently until highschool

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How are you guys' days going?

>walked around town alone this morning, got sappy and nostalgic about the "good ol' days"
>had a long warm shower, made a cup of tea and some lunch
>t. INFJ

Mostly just hanging around this thread since then, rousing up some discussion. Uneventful, but it's alright.

>>35634528
>we can also be robots and spill our spaghetti time to time

>spilling your 'le SPAGHETTI HAHA!' fom "time to time" makes you eligible for robot status
You've already failed the biggest MBTI factor - don't be fucking retarded.
An NT without intelligence is worse than even the most shittiest follower wageslave normalshit typing

INTP, I was thinking the other day...

We are supposed to be the most intelligent ones (ha!), but I wonder - is our intelligence determined by our cognitive functions or are our cognitive functions determined by our inteligence?

What came first, the chicken or the egg?

I mean, both are innate, but are we smart because we are wired to be smart or is our personality the result of our intelligence?

>>35635921
INFJ: Knows a lot about the occult. Useful if you ever need to summon a demon.
ENTJ: Says a lot without really saying anything. Just keep talking though nobody even notices.
ENFJ: Potato brain that is easily influenced by ideologies.

>>35636129
>ENFP

>Grew up in loving stable household with two parents and a little sister
>Dad worked a lot, mom did God knows what. Still love the both of them
>Mostly raised by housekeepers
>Silly kid, made me a bit of an outcast until I learned to cultivate the silly energy into a sense of humor
>Never had too much trouble making friends, keeping them is whats hard.
>Mom a bombastic dynamo, firecracker of a woman
>Dad a witty intellectual liberal who has a heart of gold
>Sister headstrong and stubborn. Very similar to mother
>I'm very similar to my father
>Occasionally partake in weed and/or alcohol when the time is right
>Shitty student with terrible work ethic, diagnosed with unironic ADD at an early age and rediagnosed as a teenager just in case I was being memed

>>35636212
>INFJ: Knows a lot about the occult. Useful if you ever need to summon a demon.
Thanks for making me paranoid, ol' buddy, ol' pal, ol' chum.

Seriously, though, is this common for INFJs? Am I a meme?

>>35636201
I'm leaning more towards intelligence causing certain functions to be more likely. Hard to say though, anyone got any defining arguments?

>>35636129
Good idea fellow INFJ

>INTP

>loved playing with dinosaur, cars and airplane toys at age 2-5

>had books on these topics, never read the text s but only looked at the images and imagined things

>Dysfunctional family, mom(ISFJ) and daddie (INTJ) gets divorced when im aged 6

>dad wants me to get into sports and music

>start playing football(soccer), and violine

>become really good at football which is a sign of Dominant Ti? perhaps

>quit it all at age 14 because i struggled to fit in with people in the team and generally disliked them

>start to withdraw from everyone in my class and instead play vidya and meet ppl online

>am 19 now and an awkward INTP who only dresses in black hoodies and cumstained jeans/sweatpants

>>35636129
>ENFP
>Deadbeat dad ran out on mum while I was a kid
>Grew up in a single parent household with little brother
>Mum (ESFP) was a strong and caring woman who, unfortunately, had to spend a lot of her time working to make ends meet
>Brother (ISFJ) and I are basically raised on cartoons and anime
>Mother would try to make sure we watched shows with positive messages
>I took all that "loving and caring and hugs" shit to heart forever for some reason
>grow up in a pleasant community with a lot of friends I knew from childhood
>end up moving to a shittier community and don't make any friends until high school
>no male role model, didn't know how to be a dude, mostly hung out with girls as the "guy who isn't like the others"
>lots of bullying, very low self-esteem, desperate need to be loved/appreciated/seen, tfw no gf
>thought I was an INFP
>eventually get to college
>more at peace with myself now and my goodd qualities
>actually put myself out there
>holy shit I'm good at this
>wow everyone loves me for some reason
>they literally cannot get enough of me and I'm just being myself
>holy shit I'm actually an ENFP who was just browbeaten by a shitty school life

>>35636319
>Good idea fellow INFJ
Cheers, my dude.

I used to think I was INFP for a while, but that was just my memepression, after I studied the functions INFJ was pretty obvious.

>>35636277
>>35636201

Functions and type may be correlated with intelligence but that doesnt mean certain types cannot be very intelligent.

on the MBTI site Celebritytypes they list famous people of every type, and theres for instance an ESFJ here with mensa level IQ. ESFJs arent commonly assosciated with super high intelligence. My point is that it isn't absolute, there are ESFJs who are IQ-wise smarter than INTJs and INTPs.

With that said, an ESFJ who is smarter than an INTJ/INTP will probably have a much smaller chance of contributing to any scientific discoveries as they do not really excel at that function wise. (Dominant Fe - more concerned with people than things and facts)

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Batman villains by mbti type
ESTJ - Two Face/Harvey Dent
ISTJ - Azreal (Batman game)
ISFJ - Mr. Zasz/Ventriloquist
ISTP- Deadshot/Bane/Deathstroke
ESTP- Catwoman/Killer Croc
ESFP- Harley Quinn/Clayface
ISFP- Poison Ivy
ENFJ- Nightwing (not really a villain)
ENFP- Mad Hatter
INFP- Talia Al Ghul
INFJ- Ra's Al Ghul
ENTJ- Hush
ENTP - Joker/Riddler
INTP- Mr. Freeze/Kirk Langstrom (Man-Bat)
INTJ- Hugo Strange/Scarecrow/Penguin

>>35635410

Do you ban women? Discord servers with women always end up revolving around a few girls who everyone will orbit

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>>35636454
Cool. Most seem about right too.

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WHich MBTI typed hate each other? There are certain typed that are very compatible (such as INTJ and ENFP), but what about the opposite? What is the sworn enemy of say, ENFP (that's my type idk sorry for flooding this thread with enfp bullshit)? Or hell, what is the enemy of the INFJ? Anything really, I'm just curious.

>>35636482
I'd imagine if it came to that sort of bullshit, yeah, fuck that. So far, everything's been pretty civil and pleasant, though.

Warning: only made 2 days ago, so everything's still a little disorganised.

>>35636454
When you think about the reasons Harley loves the Joker, she's definitely an ENFP. She wants to fix him. She wants to unearth the warm, loving Mr. J inside of him. She wants to protect him from his demons and the demons of the night. Their love is eternal, and it transcends all barriers of sanity and legality.

>>35636497
>WHich MBTI typed hate each other?
Usually opposites really hate each other - INTJ and ESFP. Opposite of ENFP would ISTJ which is traditionalist to the core and prefers working.

>>35636497
ENFPs are generally supposed to get along with most anyone, but I'd say that they'd probably have the most trouble relating to particularly mercenary ENTJs and anal-retentive, boring ISTJs.

ENFPs value internal substance and external kindness, so if you're lacking in both like a grumpy ISTJ or you push it down deep like an alpha ENTJ, you're gonna have a problem.

>>35636540
You have to remember that before getting thrown into chemicals, she wanted to treat Joker and get fame from it.

>>35636497
INFJs and ENFPs would probably struggle together since you dont have eachothers cognitive functions.

sorry if im sticking too much to the MBTI principles, the nerdy INTP that i am... but if you are with a person who doesnt have the same four functions that you have, then ur going to struggle in a relationship.

ENFPs would >Theoretically< have the best relationships with ESTJs, INFPs, ISTJs and other ENFPs, simply because you value almost everything these types have to say. These types all share the same cognitive functions

Have you read about the cognitive functions?

>>35636585
Not thoroughly. Would you recommend?

>>35636575
I think you're borrowing a little from the movieverse, but either way the story goes that she started out trying to exploit the Joker to make a name for herself (a very N goal, by the way, since Ss aren't as into that kind of natural manipulation) but ended up genuinely connecting with him through her natural sense of empathy and her own loneliness. And the depths of the feelings she felt for him not only drove her to break him out of Arkham Asylum, but also drove her to completely alter her own identity to match his. That's very ENFP: nothing but the grandest gestures, never-ending loyalty and constant defense of negative actions for the ones we love.

>>35636605
>(a very N goal, by the way, since Ss aren't as into that kind of natural manipulation)
Speak in cognitive functions - Extroverted Sensation and Extroverted Intuition.

>>35636585
MAtching functions isn't the be all and end all of MBTI relationships. You have to think about which functions are matching up. Most people connect through their E/I and N/S. And ENFP would likely find the average xSTJ to be too shallow and generic for their liking because they lack that intuitive focus that gives their personality an added dimension of depth, whereas they'd adore the INFJ's conviction in their beliefs and willingness to discuss abstract ideas even if they may not always agree.

In fact, ENFPs and INFJs are meant to be pretty ideal couples because of that.

>>35636601
Not >>35636585 but got some good resources. It can be pretty useful to know about, for dealing with yourself and your environment, and for accommodating or messing with other people.

http://www.cognitiveprocesses.com/index.cfm
http://mbti-notes.tumblr.com/masterposts
Enjoy.

>>35636129
INTP

>both parents smart, stable household, not poor but also not rich
>learned to read at 4 because I wanted to read fairytales at my own pace (though I didn't really like them because I found them dumb)
>I could talk but didn't really start talking until I was a bit older because "there was nothing to say"
>I liked dinosaurs and reading encyclopedias, we also had our first computer when I was 4 so that influenced things
>at my first school I had two "friends" who bullied me, then I got another two friends
>in 4th grade I did a test and was accepted to a math class in a different school (funny cause I hate math now), there I got two friends who soon left and then two or three more
>then I got accepted to high school (gymnasium) where I spent the last 6 years and acquired my current two best friends
>I was born in August and I started school as soon as I turned six, so I was always the smallest one until I was 15 or 16 and grew to 6'4 (I had my puberty a bit later), but I'm still a lanklet
>in P.E. we always played football or floorball and I found my calling as a goalie where I was known as "the wizard" because I could catch some serious shit - but I was never the sporty type
>it was fun you know, I was never the popular kid but I was always the first one to be picked because everyone wanted me on their team
>anyway, I also tried karate, piano and acting lessons throughout my childhood, but nothing stuck
>the same in college, I did math for one semester, economy for three and got a bachelor in law (it's free here :^), now I'm studying Chinese but I would much rather get a job somewhere as far away from home as possible
>now I'm 22, generally accepting who I am but still no luck in social or love life because I'm too autistic for normies

wew, long yet still not enough

>>35636638
I don't agree with your conclusion here.

An ENFP to an INFJ is like an ENTJ is to an INTP (me) and I remember this ENTJ who i was with in school for 3 years. I remember how forceful and bossy he was and i realized now when i discovered MBTI how we were just very incompatible.

Many times did i end up debating this guy, and how he dismissed all my arguments only because there were no empirical data to confirm them (Te in a nutshell) We were friends, sort of. Liked the same music but it would only take 30 seconds into a conversation where we would find disagreement over something

Remember ENFP and INFJ will have the same dynamic as an ENTJ and INTP, it's just doomed. While you may appreciate certain strengths the other type has, it will inevitably lead to conflict. The ENFP is very divergent and the INFJ convergent in their ways...i have never observed this type of relationship myself but i imagine it would be as rough as the ENTJ-INTP relationship. Ugh...well now i atleast know a bit on how to handle ENTJ assholes in the future.

A little too anecdotal perhaps. I don't really know how i should go on about explaining it in MBTI terms

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>>35636129
>INFP
>moved from Argentina to Canada as a result of my mother cheating on my father
>raised by depressed single father who only got better as I became an adult
>only passions were hockey and piano but ended up dropping both in my mid-teens because of differences with others
>empty inside since, rampant escapism
>long realised that my life has been pure shit but still manage to get nostalgic about it
>no future

>>35637005
>piano
Why wouldnt you take piano classes again?

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>>35636129
>ENTP
>moved all the time growing up
>made friends only to lose them and make more again over and over
>popular in school and social environments, but doesn't mean much from not living in one place since it's all temporary
>family kept dying, bad relationships with most except my mother, who is introverted and really intellectual and fun to speak to
>neglected, abusive childhood
>dropped out of highschool
>now self-employed and spend free time on drugs, and burning through people and hobbies, reckless behaviour

>>35636503

I suggest you just outright instaban all women. The ones who just want to have good discussion wont even mention their gender or anything that could reveal it. The ones who do are just looking for attention and orbiters.

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Someone please give me an INFJ gf.

t.ENTP

>>35637225
Probably a good idea. At least, the mentioning of sex out of context, it may be unavoidable on some topics, but for the most part, should probably be unnecessary. I'll confer back when more people are online.

You in the server?

>>35636201
intelligent people do novel behavior more than conventional behavior.

thats why you're bad at sex and cant sleep.

>>35636585

Generally N/S and P/J tends to clash the most, other than that its hit and miss.

>>35637279

Nah im not in the server, i just wanted to warn you since you seem new to this stuff and i have seen countless discord servers get ruined because the admins wanted to be "fair" towards women. It starts with small shit like "teehee gurl here" but eventually it always ends up in a massive orbit.

>>35637468
I'll keep it in mind, thanks, my man.

>>35635891
Sensors
>the earth is obviously flat, just look at it you morans. We should burn alive everyone who disagrees

This is why ENTJ is the master race.

We're like you but betteron every fucking level

>>35634528
INTJ here

Make 5 correct predictions about me in a post and I'll share a mildly funny picture.

>>35637608

Is a male

Is a virgin

Is (meme) autistic

Is browsing r9k right now

Is going to share a mildly funny picture in reply to this post

>>35637593
>This is why ENTJ is the master race
Dunno really. There are not that extroverted in comparison with ESFP, ESTP, ESFJ and ENFJ. I'd say that they can be compared to the boss who's not popular and somewhat arrogant but gets shit done.

>>35637561
Intuitives
>There is something called god that exists above the clouds. It only exists theoretically in my schizophrenic mind but we should kill each other over it anyway.

>>35637635
2/5

>>35637608
new rule, no guesses involving present/recent actions

>>35637608
>doesnt get social rules
>hates sensors
>not religious
>doesnt know how to flirt
>wears a lot of black

>>35637366
Js and Ps can come along great. I'm the INTP who wrote that, and I get along great with ESFJs and ISFJs. One of my best friends being an ISFJ. His Extroverted feeling in the top function stack makes him a very fun person to be with, and hes very helpful and such. J and P has nothing to do with it really. It's the lack of similar cognitive functions i would argue. I share all the same functions with the ISFJ and ESFJs, thus we come to mutual agreements and their strengths balance my weaknesses out, and my strengths help them equally.

It just cannot go wrong with these people. Conflict is resolved within seconds.

The type of J that i struggle with is TJ's namely extroverted thinkers. They force me to be on schedule and do things on time with pinpoint accuracy. I consider it a great annoyance, and in the same way they consider me as an INTP to be very childish and irrational for not obeying the Te-rules.

>>35637690
2/5

who the fuck hates sensors, do some people just look at a light sensor on a garden lamp and feel hatred?

anything starting with "E" is a normie

fucking kys

>>35637655
Popular in the sense of people loving you? Maybe. But most of us are pretty political folk.

Our only serious competition is ENFJs and INTJs. But they're sometimes more autistic than we are

>>35637789
>ENFJ
>Fe-dominant
>autistic
they're the people persons.

>>35637690
Other INTJ here
3/5

>>35637272
My older sister is one but if you're disloyal to her I'll chop your balls off

ISTP autism:
>Instead of fixing something, I'm going to autistically scream about it
INTP autism:
>That dude did something even though there's a better solution in my head, I must help him fix this issue!
>I'm going to waste hours on a tiny problem because I know a more efficient/elegant solution
ISFJ autism: I'm going to "help" you but don't realize that other people have different needs from my own

>>35638016
>ISTP
>screaming
Maybe if they're complete sperglords with severe autism.

>>35636129
>INFP
>parents had me in high school
>Lived in mom's house with her siblings and their abusive dad
>Visited my dad sometimes
>Grandpa used to starve me and wouldn't allow me near his room
>Mom worked hard ever since she hit 18
>Gone most days cause of work
>When she's home she's either super fun or hates me for being born
>Mostly play by myself
>Only own second hand toys and clothes
>Want to play with my mom's younger brother but he hates my guts
>Skip to preteen years, me and mom move out
>Mom becomes overprotective and tries to scare me into being pure forever
>Rebel and play dirty with older men on the internet while she's gone
>Few years of that before she leaves to go to America
>Have to live with dad
>He is an unemployed druggy with no future
>His parents take care of me
>Isolate myself and seek company with boys on the internet

Now, it's basically still the same scenario. I'm living with my dad's parents while in college. I'm a kissless virgin and I've never held a boy's hand but I like to flirt with boys on the internet to make me feel better about myself.

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>>35636129
>INTJ
>father is an alcoholic boomer
>parents would constantly fight about everything
>older sibling was always getting into trouble and ran out of the house during high school
>had a couple friends but did poorly in school because I had no support at home (parents were always focused on my sibling), got into other things like playing music instruments and tabletop games instead

I'm currently trying to go to college while supporting myself; it's hard but I prefer having some control in my life. I read some books about parental abuse and it made me realize how much my personality was shaped from everything that happened when I was younger.

Are ISTPs generally annoyed by INFJs? Are their feely personalities annoying to them?

>>35635495
wrong man, even jung said no one is a perfect match to their types

>>35636129
>INTJ
>father is smart INTP programmer, mother ISFJ housewife
>were poor when I was very young
>was always a "smart" kid usually without even trying
>had no TV until I was 7 because parents were sure that it was bad, but they did care a lot
>moved to other country when I was 6, I can speak 3 languages fluently
>never had any close friends
>was bullied in middle school because I was "different" and I didn't want to get physical abuse so didn't really fought back
>many people seemed to just hate me for no reason, they probably were afraid of me because I didn't express many emotions and did not talk to others very much
>very interested in anything to do with computers
>found 4chan when I was 14, become professional shitposter
>now 23 years old and still living at home, studying computer science

>>35637886

You mean SHE would chop his balls off

Is she qt? How old?

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Does anyone else here have experience with being with one of the MBTI types that's supposedly most compatible with your type? It doesn't even have to be a romantic relationship at all.

Some examples of pairings:
ENTP/INFJ (I've been in this one)
INTJ/ENFP
ENTJ/INFP
etc.

I'm an ENTP and am in a a very close friendship with an INFJ, and I just think it's interesting how we're described to be 100% compatible when some things he does really grate on me and we get into arguments pretty often. Yeah it's true that conversation is very easy between us, and we can both "be ourselves" when talking to each other (one of the only times I can take off the mask I put on for other people), but there are definitely a lot of shortcomings with this match in my experience. Interestingly enough, I'm female and would probably have an intimate relationship with him but this particular INFJ is a complete prude and hates any physical contact. Are there any other INFJs here that are like this?

>>35639659
>prepares for "tfw no ENTP gf"

>>35639659
INTJ here, my sister is an ENFP
We can and like to talk about almost anything when she's actually at home (and not REEEEEEEEEing)

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>>35636129
>ENTP
>father was a drunkard be4 my birth, after dropped, mother was attending PhD in med
>liked reading a lot
>tended to be original everywhere, sometimes even just to troll people around
>after 8 explored world of vidya (Alien Shooter was my fav by time)
>as the time's passin', father got into New-Age shit, pyramids, hi energies, etc, starte to brainwash me, I never actually believed in this BS
>after some business issues, pa got jailed, leaving me alone with ISFP wagecuck mom, and so on I had very satisfying childhood full of dramas about daily shit like cleaning a room. By a lot I meant much more imaginable then you possibly can.
>got kicked from spec-kid school, but successfully attended in college
>2nd course by now, nothin special, planning on leaving my sperglord mom for comfy apartment

>>35639713
I'm not sure a lot of people would be able to handle an ENTP gf.

>>35639565
Nah she's too much of a softie.

Yes sort of. 21.

>>35634528
Intp/infp/intj/entp checking in

Will the ride ever end?

>>35640620
Probably never?

You're comment was not original

>>35640501
They can't. Relationships are hell for me. I just avoid them and be lonely at this point.

>>35637693
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU GET ALONG WITH A SENSOR AS AN INTP? The only things I want to discuss are abstract.

Another question, is it even worth as an INTP to socialise? Moved to a different city and made a couple of 'friends' who are entp,enfj,infp,enfp, istj and none of them really matter to me. They could dissapear tomorrow and I wouldn't care. I really want to get back to my shut-in days...

>>35640993
Maybe you just aren't meeting interesting enough people and it's not just their type. I'm entp and find most people boring and unable to talk about much too.

>>35641073
It's already hard to even meet decent people, meeting interesting ones feels like an impossible task. The constant thinking about how life is meaningless and we'll all be dust in a couple of decades don't really help. At least I started to laugh about the absurdity of everything

>>35641229
Iktf. I'm lucky to have my extroverted intuition rather than introverted thinking in a way. I find it very east to find, speak to, and find things to relate to in other people. The problem is most are boring and I just don't feel like I relate or have a connection in general. Even talking to lots of people most are boring. I don't know what INTP is supposed to do compared to ENTP, since I imagine we have really similar feelings. If I find this bad it must be even worse for you with how boring life and people are.

>>35640528

Hmm, INFJs are usually really fucking brutal when someone wrongs them. You sure she isnt INFP?

Also why would you even want a robot to date your sister, you know how fucked we are.

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>>35634528
Op did... EPIC FAIL

>>35634528
infp robot

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>When you're an INTJ and your INTP friend tells you that he finds your behavior "cute", wants to know your secrets and tells you all of his, and is disappointed because you don't care about doing every mundane thing logically

>>35641528

Female INTJs are cancer

t. INTJ

>>35641628
Too bad that I'm not female
Anyway, he was really desperate for finding "intelligent" friends and even though we had many disagreements, he was interesting

Can someone tell me what's a perfect match for a male ENTP-A and why exactly?

>>35641722
no one, intuitives are born to suffer. we are only here to invent things, sensors are 'real' humans.

>>35641855
>ywn be a brainless Chad
Feels good

>chad fucks your oneitis who likes it dirty
>mommy says you're a good boy bc your IQ is >130

>>35634528
being an ENTP, I am like a bowl of spergerti with out the bowl

>>35642091
You an INTJ, just with less logic and more autism

>>35641976
at least I can feel smug that I'll die morally superior

>>35642207
chad dies knowing that he fucked all the girls that you wanted to have. ESTP is by far the best type to have imo

>>35642323
s-surely the autumn of his life will be plagued by deeply seated cosmological unhappiness, r-right?
he'll reap what he had sown (sex)

>>35642323
>ESTP is by far the best type to have imo
Everyone finds their own type to be the "best", especially S who can't really relate to others.

Who's the most brainless SJW type?
A Fe dom?

I know one chad who is 49, 6'3, takes steroids, has a full had of hair, two gorgeous children and still fucks woman in their twenties. last time I saw him he told me that he fucked 19 girls in a month and I believe him. Life is just the way it is.

t. intp

>>35642157
>less logic
INTJs don't even have Ti (Introverted Logic).
Try again. You're right about them being autistic though.

>>35642630
My bad, meant to write INTP there

>>35642592
ISFP maybe? or INFP. Fi types are more likely to get offended by things and often have victim complexes.

>>35642436
I don't find my type to be the best. I'm a 25 yo khv who looks decent but never leaves his apartment and I know trivial stuff, great!
the best types are imo ENFJ, ENFP, ESFJ; ESTP, ESFP, being introverted is shit in today's society

>take test
>INFP
Feels good for some reason. Any reason I should not be happy about this

>>35640993
ISFJs are cool. You're right i cant talk about abstract topics for too long with them, but they're very good buddies to hang out with. The ISFJ in question is a very practical, helpful person who has skillsets i value and he is very good at video games lol. We have a lot to talk about and we both like eachothers sense of humor and quirks.

If i wanted to talk about abstract topics which i love doing, i'll just talk to an INTP/ENTP.

But i would highly recommend ISFJs, they bring you a good sense of reality, they're fun, helpful and practical people that you can always count on. You need to have a vareity of friends.

>"the only things i want to discuss are abstract"

Not true at all when im with ISFJs/ESFJs. Topics become a mixture of abstract and practicality. They will give lots of advice on how you can better yourself etc and what's going around locally in the place that you live, what other people are doing etc. Very valuable input, do not neglect.

>>35636201
by your intelligence. i met many dumb intps.

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>>35636605
That hurt to read.

>no qt desperate lonely gf who will always be loyal to you

>>35643058
Cont.

My conclusion here is that you need to meet ISFJs/ESFJs if you want to become a normie, you can still keep your INTP theoretical and abstractness because these people still value it, it's just that they cannot contribute to any novel abstract thoughts.

If you want to develop your understanding and your theories as an INTP you should, like i said, talk to other INTPs and ENTPs. But they wont help you much with the practical side of things.

Thus you need to balance it out.

This rings true for other types. In an INTJs type for instance, he would find the INTP/ISFJ dynamic with an ISFP instead.

An INFP with an ISTJ, and an ISTP with an INFJ.

This has been talked about in socionics, they divide types into four quadras, and in one quadra, there are four types with the same functions and are said to work very well together. That's what i'm basing this off of, and it seems to ring very true in reality.

I should write a book about this shit.

Man I love being an ESTP and the fact that i'm inherently better than most of the people on this board

>>35634528
Im ENTP
can someone explain why im god?

>>35643058
I work with a ton of isfj, istj and esfj and they're unbearable.

>>35637664
I'm pretty sure sensors are more likely to believe in good (SFs especially)

>>35636129

What's the difference between INFP and INFJ here?

>>35637664
oh tell me how great sensors are

>>35643274
in god*

orignkf

>>35643193
what is my ideal partner as an intp then?

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>>35642695
>being introverted is shit in today's society
It isn't. Being autist with poor social skills is, always will be. Most powerful people today are introverts.

>>35643351
an INTP

>>35643351
or an INTJ female

>>35642654

Nah, INFP is one of the smartest types (third most intelligent type). INTPs ponders the nature of reality in a logical fashion, INFPs do it in an emotional "why are we here" fashion. They are both "deep" and contemplative. Fe types outwardly emotional and aggressive, they are the types which attack anyone which doesnt fit into their SJW model of morals. Fi types keep to themselves and only confront you if you are violating their values right in front of them (sometimes not even then). ISFPs are more aggressive though, but still not nearly as outwardly aggressive as Fe doms.

As an ESTP male, what would my ideal pairing be?

>>35634528
ENTP here checking in, I am exactly like you have described - it's all fun and games until I have to talk to someone that I view as important or that I have unrestrained feelings for.

>>35643422
Any of the INTP/ENTP/ISFJ/ESFJ i would say

It really depends on where you are in life, but you can never go wrong with any of these.

Right now, considering you're in robothood, maybe meet an INTP or an ISFJ, so that you can: 1) feel understood, 2) slowly crawl out of robothood

>>35643497
ISFJs are nice yeah

>>35643463

How would you characterize an INFJ then?

My dad is ISTJ, I feel like everyone's dad is ISTJ

>>35643259
elaborate then. I actually have an ISFJ mom and she is annoying because she asks me questions about how im feeling and if im hungry all the time and shit. Are they female?

If they're female i would imagine them being unbearable indeed.

>>35643553
Mine is also ISTJ. He's unironically very good with cars and home maintenance jobs.

>>35643463
I see a lot of SJWs on tumblr with INFP in their bio, and someone I know well who's an SJW is a definite ENFP, but alright then lmao.

and I disagree with your characterization of Fe, types with Fe value group harmony and are more concerned with that than their personal feelings. My father is ESFJ (fe dom) and we often talk about how dumb and misguided SJWs are.

Fi types are MUCH more likely to talk to you about their feelings and morals as well, don't be fooled with it being considered an "introverted" function.

and also where the fuck did you get that INFPs are the "third smartest" type lmao?? the sample sizes are too small to confirm that. and intelligence is hard to quantitatively measure anyways.

>>35643526

INFJ is weird. Even though they get their morals and ethics from others (Fe), they are mainly guided by Ni which is highly personal and subjective. The best way i would describe it is if you took whatever existing set of morals, and then twisted them to fit your own worldview, and lived your life and judged others according to that. They may or may not be SJWs, but if they are its usually a highly subjective and "esoteric" version of it. They dont just blindly follow others though, and generally are not as outwardly aggressive as Fe doms. Kind of like a middle ground between a Fe dom and a Fi dom in that regard.

SJWs are mostly ISFP, ISFJ, ESFP and ESFJ I think

>>35643409
who cares about introversion
73% are sensors
who wants to live in such nightmare?

>>35643662
Not the guy you're talking to and i would somewhat agree with what you have to say about your ESFJ dad not buying into the SJW meme

It's because people with Fe and Si want to preserve things i would imagine. Tradition and things like marriage and common courtesies etc.

SJWness is very common amongst NFs, my ENFJ sister is a SJW moral police who mentions that we live in a patriarchy and shit.

Then there's also the thing where Men tend not to be into that shit, no matter what type. The only men who are SJW are cucks or white knights wanting to appeal to women so that they can get laid.

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>>35643728
Yeah the world is full of sensors. Males are more intuitive than females.

>>35643662

>and I disagree with your characterization of Fe, types with Fe value group harmony and are more concerned with that than their personal feelings

You just dont understand the functions. You have in group harmony and out group harmony. Fi is more wholistic, it aims to connect all of humanity (it cant of course but it aims to do so). Fe is more concerned with in group harmony, to those who fall outside of the group (people who dont subscribe to their views) are highly irritating to Fe.

Thats anecdotal evidence about tumblr profiles. Most people mistype anyways so that information is basically useless.

>Fi types are MUCH more likely to talk to you about their feelings and morals as well, don't be fooled with it being considered an "introverted" function.

Jungs own description of them says that they are very guarded
about their feelings and rarely will talk about it. You're describing Fe types there.

>and also where the fuck did you get that INFPs are the "third smartest" type lmao?? the sample sizes are too small to confirm that. and intelligence is hard to quantitatively measure anyways

See >>35635863

IQ is the best way we have to measure intelligence, and INFPs are third ranked when it comes to that. Again its not perfect but its much better than "i once saw an INFP on tumblr".

SJWs are too dumb to be intuitives

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>>35643777
>>35643728
I would imagine a world swapped with 75% intuitives and 25% sensors to be like pic related. 75% of everyones energy goes to intuitive thought, 25% goes to the constructing of majestic pantheons!

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woke up
and I feel like crying
INFJ

>>35636454
>INFJ- Ra's Al Ghul
wrong
He uses Te

>>35644096
>you will never disturb Archimedes' circles

we would just enslave all the sensors
our only luck is that they aren't able to do the same to us

>>35644096
>>35644185
Sensors are not completely useless though. I just think there are too many of them. 55% iNtuitives - 45% Sensors would be perfect.

>>35644161
You been in the INFJ Discord yet?

>>35644213
Preferably STs.

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>>35644219
>You been in the INFJ Discord yet?
yes

>>35644185
that's a good example with archimedes circles, of how Sensor subhumanoid primates need to back the fuck off!

They should only be here to serve us!

Well sensors will be rendered obsolete by the time AI has been developed enough. So there's that to look forward to.

>>35644258
Oh, hey again. How's it going?

I'm still fucking around on MBTI threads, bagged almost 30 (You)s now.

>>35643711
fuck no, SJWs are FPs and TJs for the most part, people with Fe arent so much into this bullshit

>>35643918
>believes in retarded ideologies and philosophies that are out of touch with reality but thinks they are smart

yep that's intuitives

Are Ni doms the only types who can easily see things from other perspectives?

>>35644389
what even are the grand contributions of sensors to this world, shut the fuck up you fucking idiot

>>35644397
exactly the opposite
Ne doms would fit that description

>>35644397
I'm an INTP and I would say I can do that too

>>35644438
Ni doms are INTJ and INFJ though.

>>35644415
>>35644438
Maybe all N can do it well
SJ types seem to be terrible at that

>>35643519
>>35643497
>INTP + ISFJ
Not a good idea.

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>>35636129

>INFP
>Pretty normal life, parents together
>One sister
>Had a few gfs
>Thought I was a tranny for a few years, realized just a bifag
>Going to college for music, knowing that I might end up with a pleb job
>Ok with this
>Actually good with playing multiple instruments
>Mediocre grades
>Mostly socially capable

I've turned out alright.

>>35644298
I often wonder what will happen to all the sensors once machines work for humans. Would children adapt to the change and become more intuitive? it's a shame that there's so little info on what influences a child's personality type, because I would abort a sensor.

t. intp

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>>35644314
Still browsing 4chan
I was going to visit the INFJ discord just now but it looks like you guys let in too much cancer of other types

>>35643849
>uses people mistyping as an argument
>defends a statistical data set that contains people who mistypes
so it only matters when it applies to your argument huh?

and yeah, I know my evidence is anecdotal but it's evidence nonetheless. it proves your position that ALL fe doms are SJWs and Fi types are completely innocent wrong. it wasn't just one INFP I've seen on tumblr either. even my INTJ mother is a hillary supporting SJW.

I do know the functions lmao, you're the one who misunderstands it

>>35644554
The amount of ENTPs is getting pretty stupid. Still though, I know who everyone is n the Discord anyway, so I wouldn't call it a loss. I can talk to whoever I feel like in it.

>>35644473
that's accurate for the most part because S types have low Ne and Ni

>>35644404
Sensors did everything useful. Intuitives are our nerd slaves that we make code for us. Intuitives are bad at directing their own lives and asserting themselves. Worship the BSC (big sensor cock).

>>35644631
that must be why the unwashed masses are sensors.

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>>35644530
Just put VR helmets onto them, matrix style
This way we get rid of all the stupidity and can actually fix the world

>>35644506
wrong. according to socionics, types that are the exact opposite have the best compatibility. they're called "duals." they have the same functions just in opposite order.

for example
ENTP: Ne Ti Fe Si
ISFJ: Si Fe Ti Ne

I'm an ENTP and get along well with SFJs

>>35644649
Intuitives are unwashed NEETs working on their symphony.

>>35644678
>another entp that likes socionics

Leave with your pseudo intellectual bullshit.

>>35644660
the picture reminds me when my family got hands on some VR (the one in the pic actually I think) and everyone was like
>OMG IT'S LIKE I'M REALLY THEEERRREE!!!!!11!1
>WHOA I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS REAL AND WHAT IS NOT!!! LEL!!

meanwhile I'm just standing there like "ok, it's cool, but it's just a screen guys"
is this some sensor thing I'm just not getting?

>>35644530
that's exactly what i was thinking about earlier in the thread: >>35636080

I think it may be enviromental...but have very little data about this. All i know is that from a stefan molymeme podcast he talked to a psychologist who mentioned epigenetics, and the enviroments influence on childrens mental development during the mothers pregnancy.

It could also be genetic, too. Idk, need more data.

>>35644678
That's the theory, I have experienced the following:
- The ISFJ doesn't get the humor of the INTP and is annoyed because he doesn't care about the household at all and can be "mean"
- The INTP is annoyed because the ISFJ doesn't seem to think logically at all and worries constantly about mundane things

>>35644765
Intuitives spin the world you retard. Anyway in a real life situation I dont think theres any way you could actually assert this so-called intelligence of yours.

>>35644509
Also INFP and consider myself successful so far. Too lazy to greentext it out though. This thread is making me feel like I'm finally masterrace

>>35644777
Notice how sensors often act like retards when they see something "beautiful"?

>LOOK WHAT A NICE FLOWER!!!
>THIS SMELLS SOO GOOD

Yeah, great.

>>35643553
Mine ESTP

>tfw your dad is Chad

>>35644765
socionics is really just an extension of cognitive function theory MBTI. a lot of it is extremely similar. what are your qualms with it? I always see people who say they hate it with no explanation.

>>35644585

How do you know that the statistics are based on mistypings? I would trust statistics over anecdotal evidence from a biased source (you) claiming self reported data. Too many variables there to take it seriously. Also fyi "anecdotal evidence" is just a phrase, anecdotal evidence isnt regarded as evidence generally.

>it proves your position that ALL fe doms are SJWs and Fi types are completely innocent wrong.

It seems that you are argueing based on a misunderstanding. I never said that ALL Fe types are SJWs nor did i say that a Fi type cant be an SJW. I said that GENERALLY Fe types are more likely to be SJWs based on the way their functions work.


>I do know the functions lmao, you're the one who misunderstands it

You dont understand functions and dont understand what drives SJW thinking.

>>35644765
>science is useless, right guize!

lel

>>35644883
hes just a nigger who doesnt understand the white man's achievements.

>>35644791
it really only works when both the ISFJ and INTP are mature and have developed their lower cognitive functions. if this is the case they can actually help each other grow even if they highlight some of each others bad qualities. it can be a good learning experience, but I understand the initial disconnect.

Is it just me or all NTPs extremely awkward when they are faking a laugh?

Do you even realize this?

>>35643777
Is this only for white people? I'm pretty sure black men tend to be more extroverted and way more likely to be feelers (over 50%)

>>35644964
black men tend to have an IQ below 70 so thats different. I think MBTI only applies to people with an IQ above 95

>>35644825
Notice how intuitives get dumb over big ideas.

>WOW GUYS I INVENTED THIS THING CALLED COMMUNISM
>IT'S IMPRACTICAL AND RETARDED BUT I NEED TO KILL YOU ALL IN ORDER TO MAKE THE WORLD PERFECT
>BIG IDEAS MEAN I'M A GENIUS DON'T FORGET

>>35644867
>socionics is really just an extension of cognitive function theory

Not it's not. You are literally just meming. Socionics doesn't work when tested in reality and literally only exists to appeal to intuitives. It's a cult system made by an ENTP that is trying to piggy back off the success of MBTI. Get your head out of your ass intuitive retard.

>>35644986
You really are fucking dumb aren't you.

Who do you think enforced communism? That's right, the fucking sensors. Now get the fuck outta here. Also Marx the jew knew what he was doing. To kill the slavs.

>>35644876
it all depends on how you define evidence and at that point we would be going into semantics territory so count me out of that

and I don't think those statistics are "based on mistypings" but obviously there's going to be a pretty high degree of error on a self reporting test that most people don't know the theory behind

and yeah I do understand the functions, we just have a fundamental disagreement on what causes SJW behavior to manifest

>>35644986
Notice how I wan't using a negative or positive example, but you had to use a negative one
Also notice how you can spot dumb STPs because they are always writing like their easily refutable and therefore retarded opinions are facts

>>35644953
I can't laugh loudly, unless it's sarcastic
I either laugh through my nose or do the "trying to hold back laughter" where you chuckle with your throat

I don't know how I laugh mate!

>>35644953
I fake laughs all the time but I never got called out on that for sounding fake and I have the feeling people I know would be the kind of people to call me out if they'd notice.

t.ENTP

>>35634528
What's the difference between INTP and INTJ? How different is their thinking?
>inb4 P/J difference

>>35645036
It's not about who enforced it. It's about who came up with the cancerous ideologies in the first place.

>>35645096
I can notice every time you do it. But I don't say anything because that means I'm controlling you

t. ENTJ

>>35645157
I don't hang around ENTJ to be perfectly honest with you familia. The only ENTJ I knew were massive cunts.

>there are extroverts in this thread
Do you guys dislike being alone? Do you currently feel the need to socialize?

>>35645096
INTP here. The first (and only) person to call me out on my fake laughs was my current girlfriend. We were in the train and she was talking about how her mom's phone got stolen, I started laughing and she said that my fake laughs are very annoying. We weren't even dating back then, she just noticed it straight away.

>>35645114
INTP: Has a logic framework and uses it for thinking logically
INTJ: Uses Intuition to "think" (most of this is unconscious) and then validates if it makes sense in the real world

They are completely different
http://www.personalityhacker.com/intp-vs-intj/

>>35645052

Sure but its better data than just random reportings from biased individuals like you and me.

>and yeah I do understand the functions, we just have a fundamental disagreement on what causes SJW behavior to manifest

You really dont. You also miss the bigger picture and are too hung up on specific behaviours. SJW thinking is typical Fe behaviour. Its tribalistic and aggressive towards other tribes (people who arent SJWs). At its core what drives your dad to disagree with SJWs is the same thing that drives SJWs to disagree with him. SJWs dont belong to your dads Fe "tribe" (whatever ideology he believes in), your dad doesnt belong to SJWs "tribe". You get the point.

>>35645180
I like you guys because you notice obvious patterns on stuff which makes me stimulate my mind.

Why did you find them major cunts?

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>>35645141
As I said, Communism served its purpose really well. Marxed served the interests of the jews, not the slavs. Many died, Russia got fucked, dumb sensors believed it and enforced it, the intellectuals who were against it (intuitives mind you) got killed by dumb shitty sensor slavs. The jews won.

You cant say theres no value in an intuitives ideas when the whole fucking place somehow followed it. You see, you think it's a shitty idea yet you say you idiot sensors are the ones who run the place. No, cunt, no matter how shitty the idea is, intuitives are the ones who make things go round. Sensors dont have the brain power to think through it. they just follow. thats it.

>>35645221
So INTP is actually more logical than INTJ?

>>35645204
I've always considered myself an extrovert, until I began living alone and realised that I felt much better when I wasn't surrounded by people.

>>35645141

You only think capitalism good because it's the only system you've experienced.
Capitalism relies on having infinite, cheap resources which doesn't make sense.

>>35645059
Notice how intuitives don't know how to properly respond in arguments and get all flustered. Brainlets that have no wit. They always start stammering about technicalities and get all evasive. Makes me want to beat up some intuitives for their lunch money.

>>35645204
I get bored rather easily so I like to chat with people on here. Being alone is tiring, but so is socializing. I tend to be quite extroverted around people I know, but that doesn't stop me from acting like a huge autist.

t.ENTP

>>35645258
Yes, INTPs are always extremely logical. But their logic sometimes doesn't make sense in the real world so other people think they are autists

>>35645260
I also thought I was extrovert because I have good social skills and I'm not shy but I prefer being alone and being around people for longer periods makes me depressed.

>>35645269
Notice how stupid sensors seem to take everything really seriously for no reason

>>35645289
>But their logic sometimes doesn't make sense
As it doesnt require any external output?

>>35645258

INTJ isnt that much more logical than an ENFP for example. They are primarly intuitors, thinking is just a tool for them to use, not a way of thinking.

>>35645327
>thinking is just a tool for them to use, not a way of thinking
What do you mean?

>>35645114
Heres my INTP take on it.

as an INTP I like to understand the logic of how things work and my Ne helps me to get a hunch: "Did this phenomenoa happen because of this, this or this? Let's break it down" and i start analyzing all those different perspectives to see which fits best.

so INTPs want to understand things to its logical core

INTJs arent oriented towards understanding and analyzing things in the same way. They want to gather knowledge that has already been observed and declared true. They want Empirical data which they can use to serve their Ni goals.


I have an INTJ dad and as an INTP i try to ask him very Logical questions because i want to find out about how something works and stuff. but he can't answer it the way i want to, logically. He can only answer my questions by pointing to empirical data, past experiences and what he has read. It takes him very long to come to a logical conclusion. Most of the time when he talks i stop listening lol. Too much EMPIRICISM.

>>35645248
>>35645261
>intuitives are literally defending communism

BEHOLD THE POWER OF INTUITIVE MASTER RACE.

>>35645243
Eh, I only ever knew some, but the one I still have in mind was in high school. She figurativly sucked the teachers dicks and had a very serious and pseudo professional attitude. She seemed more like a adult with a huge stick up her ass than a pupil. Honestly, I too like to laugh at bad jokes of higher ups and compliment them to get in a favorable position, but she took it to an extreme.

>>35645388
Interesting. So when it comes to problem INTP likes to approach it from different angles while INTJ takes the most direct one without considering maybe the different (better) ways to execute it?

>>35645401
I'm not defending communism you fucking moron, behold the power of sensors who literally cant read

>>35645401
>being surprised that people have opinions which differ from your own

A good sign that you're an S. Only repeating what the american media has told you about evil commies and not thinking yourself.

>>35645315
It wasn't serious you tone deaf intuitive. It's called banter. Every intuitive needs a wedgie to put them back in touch with reality.

>>35645479
You did the exact same thing he did at first and now you blame him. How can you be so retarded

>>35645473
Capitalism relies on THE FREE MARKET A SENSOR INVENTION. Notice how the sensor invention is successful in reality and the intuitive invention crashed and burned?

BIG SENSOR COCK > TINY INTUITIVE COCK

>>35645451
INTJs just want to get shit done efficiently, if it works well it requires no new method of doing
INTPs really like coming up with new solutions themselves even if it takes a long time and effort

>>35645562
Why do you act like I'm defending communism you absolute moron

>A SENSOR INVENTION
yeah make me laugh, it isn't true now it wasn't true back then

You really have an intelligence complex.

>>35645562
Capitalism won't work any more when all the work will be automated. Robots don't buy products.
Capitalism also relies on infinite resources, another thing not found in the real world.
Why do ISTPs become fucking illogical autists when someone disagrees with them?

>>35645562
you're an obvious troll, you saw all the sensor hate in the thread and played the role of a retarded sensor to get reactions

you're literally making sensors look bad my dude

>>35645678
and you stop enabling communism you fucking retard

>>35634528
According to this test, http://www.keys2cognition.com/ ,which is apparently particularly accurate, says I am an INTP.

Past tests have placed me between INTJ, ENTJ, but also ENTP and INTP.

>tfw you won't ever know who you are

>>35645681
I wonder if it's the same guy who tries to make INTJs look bad for some reason

He seems to act like an extremely immature ISTP but it could also be a good bait

I'm ENTP A, how is that different from ENTP T?

>>35645404
Sounds like an ESxJ or ISTJ. ENTJs don't suck dicks, we make teachers our bitches

>>35645736
>Te vs Ti
Let's start from Te
>Dominant Te (EXTJ): Here is the plan, and the steps needed to accomplish it. I can learn anything complicated. This is your responsibility, and I expect a status report. I measure success by objective means (best-seller lists, stock reports, etc). I have a second plan if the first one fails. Anything can be organized for greater results. This isn't working right; let me fix it. Here is how you can accomplish your goals. Controlling one's emotions is important. It takes an hour and ten minutes to get there, with 30 minutes allotment for a traffic jam. We can comfortably do this in two weeks, yes. These are the facts, and if something doesn't measure the facts, I intend to challenge it.
>Auxiliary Te (IXTJ): This isn't working right, so let's talk about how to fix it, and I'll correct it. I know how long this task will take; I am currently on step four and will be finished in another hour, if you want to come get it. I am following the plan, from Point A to Point B. These are the steps you need to take to accomplish your goals. I am totally comfortable with word counts, hour limits, and deadlines, and have no problem meeting them. I can organize my time to accomplish everything I want to accomplish in a day. Here's your shopping list. Give me the information and come back in an hour; I will categorize it into an easy to follow format so that everyone knows where we are in the project and what is expected of them. I have no problem controlling my impulses and putting aside my emotions to get things done.
(cont)

>>35645736
E vs I is easy: do you like being with people (e) or are very drained when not being alone (i)?

Then read this
http://www.personalityhacker.com/intp-vs-intj/

>>35645597
This is because INTJs and INTPs live in completely different worlds and tackle problems for completely different reasons. INTJs have future goals to accomplish, INTPs do not.

INTPs wake up each day and realizes that each day has many new possibilities. They could change their lives on a whim. They may be aware of how they want to be in the future, but it is very loosely defined. Their goals are based on logical principles. I.e "I want to live a long and happy life" This could happen in many different ways.

INTJs see every day as sequential. Each one leading to the next. Time is linear for these folks. They are the type of person to plan their own funeral. (You get the idea lol)

Therefore it is crucial for an INTJ to have a tool to accomplish these plans and goals. Te takes up that role. So they're efficient no nonsense, anti bullshit.

>>35645639
Because you were defending it. You're just acting evasive like all the other intuitives.

>>35645678
Capitalism relies on the free market which relies on the resources available. The free market always adapts you fucking autist. Stop trying to make communism happen it's not going to happen.

>>35645681
>get BTFO in the argument
>starts getting flustered and attacking irrationally from his intuitive fever dream

>>35645800
Ti
>Dominant Ti (IXTP): I don't need to use my emotions to fix this problem, thanks. I know how this machine works. Let me take it apart and put it back together for you. That doesn't seem logical. The facts of the situation are unimportant; we can solve this, though it might seem impossible. There is a way around every problem. I can give you a two word answer to your question, and those two words will solve everything. The fewer words used, the better. Most explanations are too long-winded and technical, and could easily be simplified. Let me hear the idea or new data; I'm going to analyze and criticize it, and if it doesn't work, I'm going to throw it out. Come on, you know my impartiality is sexy. Have you ever seen me overreact to anything? No!
>Auxiliary Ti (EXTP): Hmm, give me a second_ okay, I know what to do. I know how this works and how to fix it. I just analyzed it from six different angles in my head and feel comfortable with diving right in. I can take this situation or problem apart and reassemble it. That sounds illogical, so I'm going to ignore it. If I have time, I'll argue with it. Look, cut the crap and get to the point. THIS is the problem and THIS is how we fix it. Did you enjoy my three word answer? It really annoys me when people take too long to explain something, because it's easy for me to sum it up in a few words. No, I understand the system, I have it, let's start in on it and get things done! Hop to it! Chop chop!

>>35645768
the A and T don't matter. the only test that uses it is the 16 personalities meme

>>35645874
Why is it a meme?

>>35645368

It means they arent guided by logical thinking. For INTPs logic is what guides, their goal is to end up with a logically consistent framework

For INTJs thinking is merely a tool to validate or disqualify the ideas which they generate through their intuition. Their goal isnt to be logical or in the case of Te to be as efficient as possible. Their goal is to gain a deeper understanding of something (Ni).

>>35645915
it's not a good test. it doesn't account for cognitive functions at all and is fairly inaccurate

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>>35645848
I wasnt defending communism you fucking retard I'm >>35645248 if you can't fucking understand what I said you may really well call yourself a dumb fucking sensor who would enforce communism in the right setting too
no wonder you cunts cant come up with any good concept worth applying in the real world

>>35636129

>INFP
>normal family life
>bullied until high school
>eventually became acquaintances with people
>third wheel funny friend
>kissless virgin

Definitely nothing as bad as you guys though

>>35645936
So in INTJ case logic serves to intuition?

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>>35636170
Seems very comfy with the nostalgic feels anon. Ever feel like you entertain yourself too much with the nostalgic feels? What type of tea have you got? t. fellow infj alone on campus since it is break and everybody went home

>>35639659
I'm an infj and I don't really like physical contant since my mother was a manipulative cunt during my childhood and I think that contributed to a sense of paranoia regarding others leading me to naturally push others away in the abstract and literal sense i guess. I actually really want to cuddle a cute gal, oh well such is life

>>35645812
Well, I'm fine with either. I don't mind being around friends for long periods of time, but I also live as a shut-in. If there ever was such a thing as an extroverted introvert, I would probably be it.

>>35645800
>>35645854
I'm not quite sure what you're wanting from me, here, are you looking for the one describes me the best out of these four?

>>35645971

Yes. It serves their Ni to either prove or disprove a suspicion, understanding, or hunch of it. If it proves it, then Ni knows that the idea/prediction/understanding is true and adds it to the Ni web of ideas. If Te disproves a Ni idea, it means that its time for Ni to start working again to see where it may have gone wrong, and to create a new understanding of things.

>>35645971
INTJs use thinking (Te) to determine if an idea makes sense in the real world.
Most of the actual thinking seems to be done without any conscious effort.

>>35639300

nah, not really.

t. istp

>>35645368
I think he means it's a tool for them to accomplish things. To attain a certain result that they have decided they want. INTJ wants to fix a car, he'll use the Te function to read the instruction manual and try to fix the car, buy the recommended tools and stuff. They value trustworthy information, so they can spare the time analysing and spend it on accomplishing things instead.

>>35646030
>If there ever was such a thing as an extroverted introvert, I would probably be it.
ENTP is the most introverted extrovert type
>are you looking for the one describes me the best out of these four?
yes.

>>35645952
>says something positive about communism
>claims to not defend it

Why are intuitives so evasive? Sensors come up with all the practical solutions in the world. Intuitives are like those autists screaming in the corner about rape culture and global warming.

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>mfw virgin loser estp

>>35646071
>INTJ wants to fix a car, he'll use the Te function to read the instruction manual and try to fix the car, buy the recommended tools and stuff.
Would INTP try to figure it out by himself as he's attracted to complex problems?

>>35646077
>he still thinks I said something positive about communism

yeah whatever retard kill yourself and come back in the next life with an actually functioning brain (being an intuitive)

>>35646075
Out of the Te, dominant describes me best.
Out of the Ti, auxiliary Ti definitely describes me best.

Out of these two, it's really hard to say, but I'd probably have to pick the auxiliary Ti.

>>35646119
as an INTP the words
>trustworthy information
immediately triggered me so take from that what you want
I would try to figure it myself and then defeatedly read the manual if it took too long

>>35646119
If he finds the problem interesting, maybe. But INTPs are usually only attracted to theories, they wouldn't give a shit about how to fix a car

>>35646152
>being reincarnated into a virgin

No thanks.

>>35636129
INTP
>Spoilt wealthy childhood in a first world country
>Father absent most of the time due to work
>become poor at age 12
>see dad a bit more often
>very few close friends
>hostile to everybody else
>never drank alcohol
>lost virginity age 16

>>35646202
>I would try to figure it myself
Is this common trait among INTP?

>>35646290
>being a virgin is important
stupid S

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>>35646290
completely retarded response as expected, really nothing good can come out of that brain

I'm an INTP and I never had a person that I truly connected with

I had one girlfriend but I didn't love her, it didnt work out

I was in love with a woman who was also INTP but she didnt care about me


Am I destined to be alone?

I will probably put a bullet in my brain sometime in the future

>>35646290
Welll, being a virgin at 20+ isn't exactly a good thing but there are way more important things than that, you know...

>>35646305
among ISTPs and INTPs, yes. I would definitely try to figure it out myself first, who cares if the result is perfect afterwards, atleast i'll learn something.

I recently started learning cooking and i do it by trial and error. First time making sphagetti and all the water poured out from the tin pot. I'll do it better next time xD

>>35639300
Yes i am infuriated by them, they are pethetic, weak, and emotional children

>>35646459
Well, you've had more success than me (0)
Just don't be autistic because you haven't found your partner yet, you're not "destined" to anything

>>35646545
I don't know anyone else who's as odd as me

And I realise that this is probably what everyone thinks of themselves too

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With a prospecting at 99% my life is a mess needless to say

>>35646367
>>35646442
>>35646487
Why can't intuitives comprehend the use of force? Why is it always about ideas with you guys? Why did darwin even let you guys live this long?

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>>35645974
They can sting a little. Or a lot.

>that time when you first went to that new arcade business with friends
>those times you took little sister to the ice skating rink
>staying up to talk to little sister when she had trouble with insomnia
>the library you'd sneak into to read when you ditched school
>playing unaltered WoW for the first time
>getting into playing D&D 3e with high school friends
>smoking weed for the first time and staying up talking for hours

Everyone drifted apart and I stopped making memories. I'm a 25 year old trapped in 2005-7. Don't do nostalgia, kids. I JUST WANT TO GO BACK


As for the tea, just regular Ceylon.

>>35646606
Because using force to apply shitty ideas won't make them any better.

>>35646606
>Why can't intuitives comprehend the use of force?

Where do you even get that from?

More fucking autism from the retarded sensor

What's so awful about being a sensor?

>>35639300
I like the INFJ psychology gurus. The occult INFJs are ok. I hate the spiritual hippy INFJs. I take it on a case by case basis.

>>35634528
>tfw no INTJ bf to play mind games with me.

>>35646695
Pro: you have a normal, average life
Pro/con: you are constantly cucked and manipulated by intuitives but it's ok since usually you don't even notice it

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>>35646604
YOU NEED TO LEAVE
RIGHT
FUCKING
NOW

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>>35635410
>trying to start an INFJ circlejerk

Why are INFJs such special little snowflake bitches? They're like this everywhere on the fucking internet.

>>35646695
nothing, but it's really annoying when there's a fucktard like >>35646606

Sensor: "I have nothing to hide"

>>35646655
>he thinks we use force to apply ideas and it isn't just force
>he can only understand force in the context of ideas

Wow you guys really don't know what force is.

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>>35646790
They have the rarest type heh

>>35646751
You can't manipulate people from your mom's basement you intuitive virgin.

>>35646876
Except we made Trump president and are doing the same thing in Germany right now.

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>>35634528
I did the test over 20 times and I got ENTP-A every single time.

I'm not a psychopath; I'm a high-functioning psychopath.

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>tfw no dominant af ENTJ gf

Why live?