Reminder:

fuck off 8gag

>>742920
Not an argument.
Also I already lurked 2ch when that scandal happened.

>>742920
t.staff

>>742912
Hello Jim

>>742920
t. hiro

Sounds about right. Hiro went from suspicious to outright dastardly to me.

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>>742920
>>743035
Is this the best you can do?

delete this

>>743064
shut up hiro

delete thread please

hiroshima big mistake

>>732866

>>743086
Yeah... despite all of the Japanese Internet knowing what a fraud Hiroyuki is, I'm sure it's all one big conspiracy by the 8gag meanies!

When is Hiro going to put his name?
I wanna say fuck you to him personally before he makes every board pay2post

>>742912
He got impatient and went full retard. He said it himself, there are no stupid 4chan users who will believe in anything he says without proof. Isn't he the one always saying he wants reasons? Well then show us the financial reports and make every single document transparent.

It's not like we had a choice. I wanted to have some optimism but I should have known optimism is always a mistake.

Someone post the 2ch translated thread

>>743099
>>742276

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>>743106
>Hiroyuki just shitposts the thread to oblivion to derail the conversation when shit hits the fan, but that's probably not going to work on 4chan users.

Like

pottery

holy shit, that must be why he created >>>/vip/

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>>743090
> I'm sure it's all one big conspiracy by the 8gag meanies!
Yes, actually it is considering who owns 8gag.

Why did he refuse Notch's massive one time donation?
Why did he refuse to sell the site if it is in such poor financial states?
Why did he price it at no less than 11 mil?
Why is he using the same Pass system as last time?

Why didn't he take the donation AND implement the pass system? What fiendish shit is he cooking up with the justification of 'the site needs more or it will die' that the pass won't debunk but a massive donation would?

Bad times are coming.

>>743086
Prime example why relocating to 8chan in the event of 4chan shutting down is a bad fucking idea. Cuckposting is even worse than here

I would legit entertain the possibility of hosting a mirror of 4chan sometime just to stop this happening

>>743112
Is he also behind the constant /pol/ thread to hide the /vip/ complaints?

>>742912
Friend of mine in Germany told me about an hour ago he got range banned.

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>>742912
buy a fucking pass
too afraid of being banned for shitposting faggot?

>>743123
Did he have a pass?
Please tell me you know, for the love of god.

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>>743127
No, I have 4 passes and a premium subscription to private proxies

I'm range banned from /tv/ for a 3 day ban, can confirm.

>>743116
>11 million
Where are you getting this from?

>>743145
Before Notch bitched out (or revealed he was only pretending to be retarded) he approached Hiroshima Nagasaki. Hiro said it wasn't for sale and when pushed said 11 mil iirc.
There should still be screen shots floating around.

That fucker sold out. Put on this sob story for us and then pulled this shit

My ISP got rangebanned on some boards for absolutely no reason, so this does seem kinda plausible.

The ban seems to come and go.

>>743158
hiro said he'd have to do 1) a bad thing; or, 2) another bad thing; or, 3) add spicy new features to the 4chan pass.

He then proceeded to do exactly one of these things.

So what if Hiro put up malware ads and created a board for paid users only and lets those users distinguish themselves and in the future deletes some boards?

>>743133
No he doesn't have a pass

>>743158
He literally posted two messages. One explaining the situation and another saying that it's his fault... and then got 4100 responses.

The community created the response, not the messenger.

>>743153
That Reddit Post was fake.

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>>743173
>>743133
Proof.

>>743174
And we told him what to do, and he still pulled this shit

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>>743176
So are most of the other conspiracies ITT but that doesn't stop gullible people from believing it.

>>743177
boatsluts player detected

>>743163
>moot makes semi sustainable model
>hiro either through ignorance or with intent goes in and changes the model, dropping ad space and adding loads of new boards
>cries foul at the lack of money
>refuses to sell the site on multiple occasions
>refuses massive donations
>goes forward with the pass system mirroring his old site
There is no money problem, not really. If there is it's because he manufactured one. Just look at how he wouldn't take the donation, a one time, no strings one at that.
He knows what he is doing.

>>743176
What post? I'm just talking about twitter drama.

>>742920
Kys Hiro

>>743180
>he says after seeing the 4chanPass become 4chan Gold
Full Circle was the right call from moot. We're 2ch now.

>>743177
Can we get a screen of the banned page?

>>743119
I'm seriously considering this myself - I have the means and a lax enough government. The only problem is that I don't think I'm autistic/persistent enough to moderate away CP every day.

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>rangebanned on some board for no reason

HE ACTUALLY DID IT

>>743192
As you can see in that screenshot he isn't online.
If he comes back on while this thread is alive I'll ask for it.

>>743177

Nobody would ever expect the IJN to launch their counterattack from Germany. FUKKEN GENIUS!

>>743179
Yes, he should have deleted /pol/, but he thinks that board promotes free speech.

>>743193
You need mods? I'm sure as shit you can find some volunteers.

>>743193
>I will volunteer myself if it's good

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>>743183
>moot makes semi sustainable model
See this is the problem. 4chan was never sustainable at all. Moot has always said this. It's more likely than not that moot was propping up 4chan all this time with his own personal money from the VC funds he got from Drawquest and whatever that other one was.

He essentially gave up on his dreams when he sold this website. He gave up on being someone unique and sold out to Google. Fucking Google, of all the places he could have gone he picks probably the worst place for anonymity or any free speech at all on the internet.

Fuck moot. He sold out and became a cuck. I'll never forgive him for that. If you're reading this moot, I hope you're enjoying the free lunch at Google HQ. Enjoy the soul-crushing realization that you're now a nameless cog in a giant corporation, and no one will ever remember you for anything.

>>743238
I bet moot is one of those monkeys Google hires to trawl through indexed images looking for child porn

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>>743238
8gag confirmed

>>743238
>The_two_supposably_fake_twitter_tweets.jpg

>>743249
What the fuck are you talking about, idiot? I've been on this goddamn website for 10 years. It's been with me through thick and thin. I care enough that I've paid $20 a year for the last four years because I didn't want to see it die.

This is really hard for me, and a lot of other people. We all like to take this shithole for granted, but once it's gone we won't realize just how big a hole it's left in our hearts.

>>743259
http://chrishateswriting.com/

>>743183
So show me the proof

I have really mixed feelings. On the one hand, I think he has been adorable. He shitposts well for a fob, the word filters are clever and reminded me of a time moot gave a shit about this site. I liked his attitude where he went to boards like /sp/ and just straight up asked. How can I fix it? and then went and did it within the length of the thread.

But I am nervous as fuck to financially support the guy and buy a 4chan pass.
I don't trust him after shit I've read so it basically becomes a matter of not wanting anything that can trace back to me here. Maybe I should just buy a bunch with buttcoins and then never actually use them.

>>743207
True, it wouldn't feel right paying them in tendies though. A split ad revenue type thing could work I guess.
>>743215
It all depends on how the current situation pans out but the plan would be essentially a clone, possibly with a few boards merged or deleted. (/soc/ and /mlp/ come to mind.)

>>743285
Don't make a clone
You can't manage more than 5 boards with so little people

>>743116
>Why did he refuse Notch's massive one time donation?
Because there wasn't one he just suggested interest in buying into the site. THen second guessed it a lot cause of /pol/ shit.
>Why did he refuse to sell the site if it is in such poor financial states?
Personal investment, he obviously loves running a chan.
>Why did he price it at no less than 11 mil?
What the fuck bait did you fall for now anon?
>Why is he using the same Pass system as last time?
IDK I don't like it. Orignal passes were a good idea, but this is getting silly.

>>743284
>Guise I need money to pay my debts from my previous jewish fuck ups
>pls understandu

From a software standpoint, we need transparency. The software used on 4chan must be licensed under some form of license in order to quell fears that our posts are being tracked. We need a legitimate and thorough security analysis. How do I know my posts aren't being tracked and sold to third parties?
Happened before with Hiro.

>>743284
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYkACVDFmeg
>Just a low IQ nigger amiright hahah free speech.

>>743285
Make PikariChan! Pikari is basically a grown up yotsuba

>>743300
You underestimate just how many volunteers there would be

The real issue is mod/janny retention. Being able to delete threads/posts/submit ban requests on command is fun for a few days, but then it becomes tedious like anything else

>>743305
Go take a look at the new advertising page.
You see that company in the bottom right? Rubicon?

Even a tiny bit of googling shows that, according to shitters on a tech support forum, this company is known for a stubborn tracking cookie.

Fuck this nip. I really do.

>tfw hiro starts accidentally range banning entire countries

>>743318
He's fucking selling our data after all

>>743326
proof?

>>743319
>accidentally

Good one.

>>743326
Do some more googling. I think it was an apple tech support thing

>>743305
I've been thinking/saying this for years, but 4chan really needs to go open source as a backup plan for if it dies. Moot copy/pasted 2channel's source to make 4chan, it's only natural that it passes on the torch in case it dies.

>>743328
https://discussions()apple()com/thread/4429944?start=0

Not a lot, but enough to start being suspicious.

>>743238
>cuck

Selling a website led to his girlfriend cheating on him? Damn, that must've been soul-crushing for him.

>>743337
We already have software out (open-source) that is far better than what 4chan is and has more features.
I just want 4chan to give us assurance that they aren't fucking with our data like what happened with 2ch and 8ch.

>>743328
Other than the apple stuff see also his history with 2ch

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Daily reminder:

https://8ch.
net/pol/res/7715964.html#7723167

>>743388
That's the only reason that apple post is worth anything.
He has a history of this. Don't trust this fuck.

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>>743390
>fired a cripple from his own company
>jews

>>743259
Did you just use "supposably" unironically?
...Wow.
http://blog.dictionary.com/supposedly-vs-supposably/

>>743394
That's what worries me.

>>743409
>Autism

>>743411
Jump while you're cognizant. You'll just fall back into the 'you're here forever' crush if you don't.

>>743445
Jump where?
Lain was my main before the retards came
I'm a vagabond now.

>>743123
Germany's had issues with range bans for a while. Tell him to send an email to the mods explaining this and/or call his ISP to have his IP address changed.

>>743453
Depends. There are people working on clonechans others planning migrations to established nichechans
At the very least it's about whether you want to say here. Jump, get some fresh air and perspective, then figure it all out by either finding a good secondary chan or coming back to 4chan and good old /vip/

Nothing is certain if you leave, least of all a good quality substitute, shit could be worse even. If you stay though, things certainly aren't going to get better.

We tried to warn you, we really did.

I got rangedbanned in the boards I browsed the most.

This is just a conspiracy theory, but I think there might be an algorithm that rangebans people based on which boards they browse the most.

I can post just fine on most boards except the ones I use the most. Damnit.

>>743467
im thinking about just quitting the internet

>>743453
8ch

>>743471
I wish I could. I could see it doing nothing but improving my life. Good luck out there, if you make that call.

>>743468
Thanks 2ch. This is the most heartfelt I told you so ever.

>>743474
8ch is run my Hiro's collaborator, are you fucking high?

>>743467
I left before when GG happened.
Went to 8ch and stayed on /v/ for quite a while before jumping to the Cyberpunk board.
Then I went to lain.
Then I went to another.
Now I'm here.
Been on chans for 8 fucking years.
Now I don't even know where to post.

>>743496
sushi

>>743505
That was the other.

>>743195
>>743162
>>743142
>>743123
>>743177
>>743319
>>743469
Nuh uh, this literally never happened. Please fuck off back to 8gag.

>>743238
So, hes anonymous now? Nice pass, cuck. Way to fall for it.

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Relevant Futaba thread if you can read moon: http://may.2chan.net/b/res/437349795.htm

>日本で2ちゃんが閉鎖する危ない!…などと大騒ぎした挙句荒稼ぎした実績をあるからなあ…
4chのGAIJINはそういう過去の集金パターンを知らないはずなのでがっつりDonateすると思うんですけど(名推理)
>In Japan he would make a fuss and say "2channel is in danger of closing!" then make bank. The gaijin at 4chan don't know the old moneymaking pattern, so they'll probably donate a lot.

>>744038
Can't wake up

>>744038
>嘘と嘘を見抜けない人は
>People who do not see through the lies and lies

:(

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>>744050

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>>742912
>mfw post 2010 weebs literally made an idol of this fish-lips nip

pfffffffhahahaha

>>744052
>That's not true, check inside and see what they're saying ?
Did I translate it right ?

>>744062
Using a message board is tough if you can't tell that lies are lies.

>>743192
If you get ISP banned then you don't get a banned page.
You get a error saying "Posting from your ISP has been blocked due to abuse. 4chan Pass users can bypass this block" and then a button for more info".

I'm on the same boat. My country was ISP banned 3 or 4 years ago and I have to buy a pass every year if I want to post on this site.
I wanted to have faith and believe Hiro would one day remove the ban but I guess things are going in the opposite way now.

>>744098
What country are you from?

>>743238
>whatever that other one was
You're probably thinking of canv.as
And yes you're right, but also keep in mind the tremendous stress of having to deal with the govt. and the media as long as he's admin.
I don't know the extent of his trials but you may have given up under the pressure too.
Still doesn't excuse him going full normalfag anyway.

>>744132
The shittiest country in south america

>>743301
God I hope notch does buy it in the end. We need someone who gives a shit about this site.

>>744140
Paraguay?

>>742912
/vip/ and attention whore clover sticks are the worst things he could have done.

>>743385
Going open source wouldn't help at all in that case. How do you make sure that the 4chan servers are actually running the code that's published?

>>744140
>>744193
Venezuela?

>>744140
>>744193
>>744205
Argentina?
We were ISP banned a year ago or in the first months of this year for like a month thanks to some underage faggots from Tadinga.

>>744205
This one

>>744193
>>744211
Nope

>>744140
There are tiers of shittiness in South America?

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>>744052

>>744217
Hah! I knew it. When are you guys lynching Maduro?

>>744219
You bet.

>>744219
Yes.
t. South American.
Chilean here.

>>744224
Didn't they already have Presidential elections or some shit alreay?
Didn't the faggot of Maduro lose them?

>>744224
Soon hopefully

>Didn't they already have Presidential elections or some shit alreay?
>Didn't the faggot of Maduro lose them?
I wish

>threads about this shit always getting derailed

I'd rather talk about how shitty the addition of /vip/ and attention whore clovers are

>>744232
When are Presidential elections there?

>>744236
>4chan pass user since
>/vip/

And this is only the start. Better prepare yourself

>>744229
I think they had congressional elections and the supreme court has since been blocking them from passing reforms. Also Maduro is basically establishing martial law due to the so called economic war he says he is facing.

>>744232
I'm rooting for your country, anon. If only the military had succeeded in taking down Chavez, it wouldn't have come to this.

>>744242
>I think they had congressional elections and the supreme court has since been blocking them from passing reforms. Also Maduro is basically establishing martial law due to the so called economic war he says he is facing.

My fucking god.

>>742920
You can hate both hiro and 8gag, you know.

>>744038
This needs its own thread itself.

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>>744038
>the faggots at /vip/ are supporting this shit

That board is a collection of brainwashed shekel-givers

>>744265
that post seems like a redditfag to me

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>>744277
95% of /vip/ sounds like Reddit, really.

Whatever the case.

>>744278
>Board that needs you to pay to post sounds like reddit
Just wait until Hiro allows you to add a name, avatar and signature to your posts if you're a pass user. Then you'll see some real shit

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>>744283
It'll happen. It's clear he wants them pass shekels any way he can.

He'll listen to these types of people, too.

>>744286
I just can't believe this people are supporting this...I hope it's all trolling.

>>744283
delete your post you stupid goy dont give that japanese faggot any ideas

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>>744289

>>744283
You can already add a name to your posts. Moot was never brave enough to remove it site-wide. Namefags and tripfags never brought anything of value to 4chan.

(user was gifted 4chan gold for this post)

>>744283
You can already do all of that you baka

>>742912
I honestly think he's just trying to market passes. He would be taking donations (or offers from wealthy people like Notch) if he were in serious financial trouble. He bought 4chan as an investment and wants to make a profit. For moot, this was just his website that he made so breaking even was fine. I actually think he's preferable to many of the people offering to buy 4chan though. He wants to keep the users coming here, so even though he's clueless he respects that 4chan has a culture and community, and won't try anything too ridiculous. Probably.

>>744306
He bought 4chan for a hobby
He had to abandon 2ch to evade government fines for libel.

>>744306
He's too perceptible to listening to the advice of the assholes in /qa/ yelling at him on what to do. That shit with /vip/ was done on a whim thanks to a specific thread. The people in that thread basically speak for everyone on the site.

>>744314
Wut. What thread was this? I can't believe Hiro hasn't learned his lesson after the past couple months.

>>744309
Better than any of the twitter trolls who only know of this place from /pol/. I get that he's sketchy but he spent the first part of this year adding boards that people said they wanted. Now he wants to change things, and I know some do not like the new /vip/ board (bring back tex boards plox) it honestly has very little effect on the rest of the site. Making the popular boards pass only would be a major change, but I doubt he'll try anything like that.

>>744314
That is my point; he doesn't want to offend us. Not sure which thread also.

>>744038
Two of the biggest Japanese websites are trying to warn us of Hiroyuki but people don't care. Sad!!

>>744309
>He bought 4chan for a hobby
>hobby
l o l

>>744038
>こいつらの言う儲かってないは嘘だからしんじちゃいけないよ
This thread is good.

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>>744309

>>744232
Fellow Venezuelan here, I feel your pain bro

>>744237
Presidential elections are fucking useless when the government is controlling everything regarding to it

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Why the fuck is everyone on this site such a gullible idiot?

I've been warning you people since day one. Moot had as much of an idea of who he was selling the site to as we did, he just wanted to get rid of it fast.
He also clearly stated before he left that the site was in no risk of running out of funds any time soon.
Everything Hiro has done has been one big ruse to squeeze money out of the userbase, how can people not see this, even after he added a literal 4chan gold icon to posts and a 4chan gold exclusive board?

how long till he closes /qa/ since we're onto his tricks?

>>744539
That was before /pol/ brought legions of newcomers and the media in because of the election and all sorts of expansions to the site.

>>742912
>>744306

>Hiroyuki range banned people en masse in 2ch to make them buy 2ch passes (ronin).

He mass banned greece 3 times now, >>744456 he probably did it to other small countries too thinking that they will just buy passes and no one will notice, no one probably did.

>>744569
>what is proxy spam

>>744576
Not a reason to ban literally all of the countries ISPs and phone companies i am pretty sure, if it was someone changing his ip to avoid banns then one IP range or even one ISP or two would be understandable,
literally every single ISPs of the countries is not.
This is not an IP range ban, its a literally every ip that seems to be coming from greece ban.

>>744600
Source: my ass

>>744605
> I don't know how to find a proxy that exits from specific countries to verify what other people are saying.

You don't need to project your disappointment onto others anon, just git gud.

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>>743238
>>743266
what is up with this new capcode I start seeing everywhere?

>>744615
Not a capcode. 4chan pass.

>>744613
>i'm going to pretend I tried to post on 4chan with a bunch of Greek proxies
Fuck off

>>744619
can you turn it on and off? Since most on /vip/ don't seem to have it

>>744625
Yes, it only shows up if you type 'since4pass' in the options field.

>>744605
This is not the first time as i said, it happened 3 times, talked to my irl friends and some normalfags and made them check, all of the countries ISPs where banned, except Vodafone.
There is no fucking way a person got banned on two boards with all the IP ranges of 4 fucking different ISPs tree times in a row in the span of two months, this is either a technical mistake or something fishy.

>>744635
Australia got banned because of excessive shit posting on /mu/
You brought it on yourself

>>744615
hiro stop

>>744644
only on IP ranges belonging to mobile networks
dumb phoneposters deserved it

>>744644
Australia got an IP range ban of a single ISP that was Telstra and everyone could see why they where ban, as you said excessive signposting,
because Australia is a pretty big place that translates to many posters, are you saying that the ban of 4 ISPs three times on the same two boards that happen to be two of the biggest boards
in two months of a relatively small country without any notice or reasoning is the same thing?

>>744667
Yeah, also if I remember right that was for posting pedo shit on /tv/

>>744038
ｷﾀ━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━!!
thread is gone, i hope someone took some screenies of it

>>744680
Wonder what happened, maybe Hiro got it pulled somehow.

>>744700
Threads die by expiration date, not by reaching the last page.

>>743177
My entire ISP got rangebanned 4 years ago when moot was still in charge. I had to buy a pass just to be able to post. So this isn't some new bullshit Hiro thought of, it's been done in the past.

>>744709
Hiro is abusing it tho.
We have never had this many rangebans, EVER

>>743123
posting from Germany. test.

>>744720

Yes. I also get random range ban problems when I post on /tv/. The quick reply box doesnt work sometimes and from time to time I get a ton of 'connection errors' whenever I try to post on any board.

I thought it was a problem of my computer or router but I have fresh installed windows several times and reconfigured my router to no avail.

IIRC All of this started happening by february or march this year. I never before had any of these problems posting and I have been doing so for the past 7 years. Something shady is going on.

>>742912
WE DIDNT LISTEN

>>744765
If you are range banned you will get a message saying so. Your internet is just shit

>>744775

>>743301
notch is pol regular. just saying.

>>742912
>>742920
The mods obviously astroturf support for Hiroyuki because they're afraid people will move to 8gag or any other site and they'll lose their hot pocket power over the users.

>>744778
Go back to 8gag faggot

>>744628
>since4pass
does not work for me

>>744778
>they're afraid people will move to 8gag
I don't think that

>they'll lose their hot pocket power over the users.
But I think that

>>744778
Can't do it for free if you have no one to lord over.

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>>742912
>Hiroyuki range banned people en masse in 2ch to make them buy 2ch passes (ronin).

Is this why Greece keeps getting blocked from posting on /pol/ and /vg/ every other week or so?

Does he want to make the people who browse these boards buy passes?

It would be cool if we actually had someone from the staff TALKING to us directly, you know. A conversation with back and forth.

But no.
You get some vague post, people post about 5 billion ideas and then that's it, no one responds to anything.

>>744828
It doesn't matter what they say autists here would freak out.
The inmates should be kept separate from the guards

>>743191
2ch is a textboard, you dumb fuck.

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>>744680
>>744038
Incomplete
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://may.2chan.net/b/res/437349795.htm

>>744848
Gods work anon, I went lurking on 2ch and they had a good non non thread on /b/ which I stole and posted on /a/here

>>744680
>>744700
There are over 9000 まとめ sites for 2chan and 2ch.
http://futalog.com/437349795.htm

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>>744895
>ちんこみたいな顔しやがって
ワロタ

I am an anus.

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>>744038
>>744848
>admin is a complete jewish liar
>site isn't in danger of dying anytime soon
>retards who live inside their board bubble will never realise this and keep falling for his tricks

moot should've just close the goddamn site if he knew what he was doing.

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GUYS IT'S HAPPENING

>>744923
What was the subject?

>>744906
You can see the rest of the thread with images instead of a partial google cache, here >>744895
They were talking about how Hiro is viewed as really dubious in the Japanese IT industry and how despite claiming to be broke, he has generated some 20 million in funding outside of Japan, basically saying that he has fled from his debts at home in order to make money elsewhere.
They also comment on the usage of adblock here, by us.
One としあき comments on how Hiro is percieved like a yakuza in the way he conducts business and another poster says that there people have been deceived by the image put out by marketing and that in reality most don't trust him.

The full thread is pretty brutal in terms of how he is actually viewed in Japan online.

>>744925
hirojewmoot

Is it possible to filter the clover on any extensions yet?

>>744926
So this is a universal view in 2ch and wherever, and not just a mixed view?

The whole thing seemed pretty dubious in the first place

>>742920
8gag.pl is not the same as 8gag.net

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>>744788
But it does, you dumbfuck.

>>744941
>and not just a mixed view
Like everywhere these sort of things are a mixed issue but generally speaking there isn't a whole lot of love between Hiro and his old userbase. He has a history of treating them in the same vauge, bullshit manipulative manner as he as treated us.

I don't understand him. If he is after money why doesn't he try to sell 4chan to shkreli in this case? That guy is a millionare and I have a feeling that he is acutally willing to pay the price.

>>744948
Constant stream of money >>> One time deal

>>744948
Can't get the golden eggs if you sell the goose that lays 'em.

>>744778
But swaglord doesn't seem to like him.

>>744948
>If he is after money why doesn't he try to sell 4chan to shkreli in this case?
Hiro is the director of company that deals with data, 未来検索ブラジル. http://razil.jp/
In the past this company had a deal with Hotto Link, to provide data from 2ch and other sites.
http://www.hottolink.co.jp/english
A once off payment is potentially nothing compared to the income stream provided by managing user data into a format that can be accessed by corporations who pay good money to access this data. Data is valuable; Google is an example of the most successful big data multinational.

Why isn't Hiro autosaging this thread if all this is true?

Checkmate... Now move on please

>>744950
if he fucks up 4chan then he won't get that much money I think. I wish the higher ranked mods would step in or something like that. I really don't like the direction this is going.

>>744958
I remember that. /g/ posted a lot of those threads back then when hiroshimoot took over.

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>>744904
But this website is for animus.

>>744959
Not to raise suspicion, maybe?

>>744959
That would only make it seem more suspect.
The benefit of something like 4chan is that here are so many users posting that information gets reliably drowned out.

>>744959
brabra streisand

>>744965
>>744963
Wrong, let me tell you the truth: Paranoia

So please stop.

>>744970
>Paranoia
Which part?
Which parts are you trying to imply are wrong?

>>744970
Hello Hiro

>>744959
He's already censoring smaller things

see

>>744923

>>744971
All of this. Hiro is a great admin, he purchased this website when the previous admin was burned out from administering it, he was hiding financial troubles from users.

Bear with Hiro. None of this is true. /vip/ is a needed evil.

>>744765
Quick reply box doesnt work for me sometimes as well which then I have to rely on the original form instead. Here I thought it was a problem on my end.

>>744977
Moot stated that 4chan was good for the next years to come when it comes to financial stuff. I don't believe hiroshimoot for a second.

>>744977
>All of this.
Are you trying to insinuate that Hiro isn't in the employ of 未来検索ブラジル and that this company wasn't doing business with Hotto Link?

>>744977
>>744972

>>744981
As I said you were fooled by him.

He said this to set up on Hiro.

Believe Hiro, not moot.

>>744982
How did you get this information?

>>744984
Now this is some meta roleplay shitposting.

>>744989
Why would you believe an ex-admin?

Illogical

>>744990
>Why would you believe an ex-admin?
I don't.
Which is why I don't believe a word Nishimura has to say without evidence.

>>744993
Even if I used to be admin at other chan, what matters is 4chan. The present. Not the past.

>>744996
>why does it matter that the chef of this restaurant pissed on my steak last week?
>all that matters is the present, I fully trust him to not piss on my steak today

>>744997
But he already pissed on it and he's having a laugh watching everyone eat it and pretending it still tastes good.

>>744997
No food analogies please.

>>744984
moot did some shit too, but I would still believe him a million times over Hiro when it comes to 4chan.

>>745002
Don't do that, you need to believe Hiro.

Why would Hiro remove the ads if there was no financial trouble? Illogical

>>745004
Yes I agree with you, we should believe Hiro.

>>744778
I'm not even bothering with any boards but /qa/ until I know this shit is fixed. No point in wasting my time on a community that will be gone in a month.

>>745004
Why would he censor threads if he wasn't lying?

>>745005
>>745004
Hello friends it seems we are on the same page, I too would rather believe Hiro over the moot.

>>745006
I am sure that if enough people purchase a 4chan pass we will not be gone in a month

I too blindly believe in our good admin.

He just wants the best for this website.

>>744988
>How did you get this information?
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/未来検索ブラジル
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/西村博之
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRsT4wPmiGk
http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/ひろゆき
http://echo-news.net/japan/what-polices-gained-from-brazil-is-2ch-money-laundering
http://systemincome.com/tag/ひろゆき(西村博之)
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ホットリンク
http://tarakoumihe.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/(株)ホットリンク
http://echo-news.net/japan/hottolink-onignores-the-affiliation-fee-on-matome-site

秘密じゃないよ

>>744996
Now this is some meta roleplay shitposting.

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this horseshit is getting surreal

>>745007
Why would he give a 25 discount on 4chan passes if Hiro was lying?

When he wants to make money

Illogical, discounts means less money

>>745015
Wikipedia sources? Bad, can be editable by anyone.

Youtube sources? Bad, can be uploaded by anyone.

Systemincome sources? Bad, can be modified by anyone

Echo-news sources? Bad, very biased against Hiro

Please find good sources for that information

>>745018
Steam makes more money during their big sales than during any other time

Despite giving discounts.

You're an idiot.

>>745024
But this is not Steam, this is 4chan

As I said, just trust Hiro, it is a very complex subject

>>745026
How about you go and fuck off

>>745026
fuck off hirojew

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>>744962
>>745017
>image.jpg

>>745023
You're fucking desperate now. Those sources can be cross referenced all over the Internet. You aren't going to get anything more concrete than that, champion.

>>745026
I'm not trusting some retarded nip who has a history of selling his users information. Fuck off.

>>745028
You rage because you were proven wrong, it is normal

Be the bigger men and just give in

Why would the owner of a website lie about its own death, illogical, Hiro loves 4chan

>>745032
Then that just means the information is false

Well done

I applaud the efforts of making the fake content though

>>745034
You still need to work on your English, Hiro

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>>745023
>...
Hiro sources? What Hiro sources?

>>745032
>he isn't accepting muh cherry picked bullshit! Get him!

Take your meds /pol/ smoker.

>>745043
Hiro sources?

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>>745040
When getting blown the fuck out, it's idea to stop posting because you're only fool of yourself.

>>745043
Slightly

>>745044
This is really fucking sad if you are being remotely serious.

>>745023
This is the point where you're supposed to bring your sources on the table and explain why they're better.

>>745050
I used to think like you, then I realized Hiro was telling the truth, please believe me

>>745051
Illogical, I have no source for proving something not happened, impossible to exist

>>745054
You just dismissed it, you need to bring your own sources to support your statements. You can't just continually deny the other person's statements, that's not how arguments work.

>>745052
I now see you are right and realize we are in financial trouble

>>745065
Thank you user .

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Fuck you hiro

>>745073
lel, what ads? Hiro cancelled it already.

>>745073
Do people seriously use Adblock on 4chan?

You don't really believe any of this do you? Anyone can say anything about Hiro, and there's literally no proof. All I see is people saying things over and over, but when asked to provide evidence there only evidence is more people saying things and no hard evidence.

>>745082
Yes Hiro, we do.

>>745091
Thank you for buying a pass

>>745091
Good work since4pass user
You were gifted a free year of pass for this post

>>745091
A very important post! Witnessed!!

Please do not use adblock on 4chan.

Even if we have no ads.

And please buy a pass, Hiro is telling the truth.

>>745091
Who should I believe?
You and your shitposting friend who goes "no hiro is good!" or all the sources on the net and 2ch clearly talking about shady, scummy and bad things he has done?

Hmmm. Tough choice indeed.

>>745113
Belive hiro.

>>745113
Alright I'll bite.

Law student here.

You can't judge someone for their past actions, you need concrete proof of the facts as they are in the present if you want to assert if they have committed a crime or not.

As it stands now, there is little proof 4chan is not undergoing financial trouble. On the other hand, we have many reasons to believe it IS undergoing financial trouble.

His past is only relevant when you want to apply the penalty. That's criminal law.

>>745082
I didn't mind image banner advertisements on 4chan until they were replaced by sketchy 3rd party javascript.

>>745094
I dunno why. I'm deff not one of those "buy more passes blz" types, but those ads help keep the lights on. Do you all dislike Hot Tenga adverts that much?

>>745118
We're not at a fucking court here.
We're trying to figure out whether hiro is a good administrator and can be trusted.

I don't think so, since his track record doing the very same job on a very similar site (2ch) is anything but good, considering he was ousted out of here.

For this reason I will not buy a pass. I'm not going to support someone who I don't trust and who will most likely run this site into the ground within a year anyway.

>>745118
>you need concrete proof of the facts as they are in the present
sure
>>744923

>there is NO proof 4chan is undergoing financial trouble.
FTFY

>>745113
B-But you need to believe in Hiro even though 2ch derided him for shady shit that he pulled and is now pulling on 4chan!!!

>>745128
There is no wrongdoing in what he did there.

Let's classify Hiro's crime at that specific case.

Object: Our freedom of speech specifically regarding our ability to discuss 4chan's financial state and Hiro's past

Means: Censoring thread subjects

This is an impossible crime because the means are completely inefficient. It is way too easy to dodge subject blocks, it'd be just crazy to think Hiro really thinks he can stop us by censoring it like that.

>>745124
Then you have no case.

>>744977
Hello hiro

>>745143
Thank you, let's spread the truth, Hiro is a good admin

>>745143
I don't need a fucking "case" you wannabe lawyer.

All I need is to make up my mind on whether I believe in Hiro or not.
I don't. Hence why I decided against buying a pass.

The end.

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>>745143
>There is no wrongdoing in censoring content about him.

>This is an impossible crime because the means are completely inefficient
He can't be obvious about it. are you retarded? you call yourself a law student?

>>745150
That's quite irrelevant to Hiro. $15 can't keep the servers afloat mind you. The only one who loses it is you because you can't post without captcha, must endure longer cooldowns, can't post on /vip/ which will be the best 4chan board for the next few weeks or maybe months, not to mention you won't be able to use SJIS/monafont there which is very fun. You're missing on all that.

>>745154
That's like saying if I point an unloaded gun at you and attempt to fire it, it is attempted homicide.

>warned hiro is a derailing shit poster
>look back through this thread

We where warned, since your here hiro make the pikari posted a janitor

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>>745156
You can post SJIS on /jp/ without buying 4chan gold, faggot.

>>745156
>you can't post without captcha
Big deal, less than 2 seconds
>must endure longer cooldowns
I don't spam, this is irrelevant to me
>can't post on /vip/
lol

try harder you imbecile

>>745159
Have fun doing that, it's a shit board. Much more fun at /vip/.

>>745156
Fuck off, nobody cares that you need to pay for you law tuition by shilling for 4chan gold.

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>All this damage control
The japs were right

>>745160
>less than 2 seconds
False.

>I don't spam
How is this relevant to lower cooldowns? Do you honestly think only spammers make more than one post per minute?

>lol
I know you want to post at /vip/.

>you imbecile
At least be creative with your insults. Like this: You big bafoon imbecilic bafoon shitdosh!

>>745162
Education is free in my country, try again, American.

>>745166
>false
How is it false? Why would YOU know how long I need to type in 3 numbers or one word?

Go kill yourself.

>You must disable ad blocking/allow ads from *.4chan.org/*, *.4chan-ads.org/*, and *.rubiconproject.com/* in order to view this page.

>>745168
Because the captcha often shows more than one word, and they can be quite complex, even in other languages. You also said that you can't make more than one post per minute meaning you are a slow typer. It is also common for captcha to fail.

You have lies, I have facts. You can't destroy me. Fear me.

>>745170
You only have to type 1 word in you new fucking shit

I'm done replying to you

>>745166
>Education is free in my country
That clarifies everything! You can come and mow my lawn when you graduate.

2 bombs wasn't enough

>>745172
It is a natural reaction of human brain to run away when your integrity is in danger. Fight or flight mechanism.

>>745174
We likely live in different countries. But hey, I'll be visiting your country next January. It's for tourism though.

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>>743318
>http://www.freefixer.com/b/remove-pixel-rubiconproject-com-from-firefox-chrome-and-internet-explorer/
Well, there my adblock turns back on

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>>745161
Hello Hiro

>>745179
I am not Hiro but I know he was here.

>a lawfag is all it takes to BTFO everyone here

>>745185
I'm in law school and i have no idea what's going on

>>745185
To be fair it'd be a shame for a law student if they were unable to BTFO some basement dwellers and 4chan users, especially when it comes to a paranoia tinhat thread like this one. Wonder if people actually believe this conspiracy shit.

>>745192
Why are you replying to your own post?

>>745195
Nice try.

>>745195
He needs to feel important! And he doesn't even have a 4chan pass... fucking pleb.

>>745118
>law student forgets that he is in /qa/ and not in court
Your bullshit is only relevant when you are in court. That's da law, okay?

>>745174
Wwwwwwwwwwww

does anyone still have the huge wall of text image detailing hiros misdeeds on 2ch?

>ctrl + f (You)
>87 results
AHAHAHAHA

Now your thread is closer to archiving. HAHA.

>>745200
>shilling

>>745211
So?

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>>745204
This one?

>>745215
This will never be spoken about again.

>>745118
>You can't judge someone for their past actions
Are you a gigantic retard? This is the defence in almost every sexual assault case. "Girl would sleep around a lot, she liked rough sex, et al"
You can certainly use character sketches to persuade a jury for the accused too

>>745211
We will keep making more Hiro

You either go full censor mode or keep tryin to derail every thread we make for the rest of your days.

>>745212
>Being poor
Disgusting.

>>745218
the one i was looking for was kind of done up with some webcomic-like images, but i think the text is the exact same
thanks anon

>>745220
And it's a shitty defense. Good luck convincing a jury by saying a girl liked rough sex therefore she can't be raped.

>>745219
Really? You're so smart and I'm so dumb... I need to buy a 4chan pass to feel important!

>>745228
Here's the funny thing, I don't have a pass.

>>745226
>And it's a shitty defense.
Literally every sexual assault case uses the girls sexual history in their defence. Holy fuck you're stupid.

>>745218
>pass users had their name, address, credit card info leaked and you could tell who made which post
Really? This looks false. Source?

>>745230
Don't you have any sense of shame anon? Buy one and stop being a fucking parasite! Then you'll be able to post on >>>/vip/ !

>>745232
When buying a pass you dont even need to put your name or address, only cc, expiry date and security code

>>745233
I do plan to buy one.

>>745235
Good!
*rubs hands*

>>745232
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2013/09/17/digital/accidental-leak-ids-over-30000-anonymous-2channel-users/
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/2ch_Chronicle/Deanonymization_Incident
>inb4 those source doesn't count

>>745235
Thank you gaijin

>>745157
It could very well be if you thought it was loaded.

>>745243
But you can't attempt to kill someone with an unloaded gun, it is not a crime at all.

>>745247
No but it's still a violent crime though. If you rob a store with a fake gun you can be charged with armed robbery because you used intimidation

>>745241
I see it is real, wonder if the same could happen here, I don't want my credit card info leaked

>>745241
>>745218
And moot sold 4chan to this guy. He truly hates us

>>745252
Hold on. I am talking about homicide.

While an unloaded gun consists of perfectly valid means to rob a store, since you can intimidate others with it, an unloaded gun is still not valid means for homicide, meaning you can't be charged with that crime. Similarly, you can't possibly charge Hiro of censoring people if he is using a completely inefficient mean such as prohibiting one word from thread subjects, assuming it is true.

>>745226
This seems like a silly red herring, though. It's not a court of law and Hiro isn't on trial; he's running a website with disparate posters who mostly maintain anonymity and, to their own delight, fester in animus and occasional paranoia. Some of them feel jerked around by the non-responses to their concerns.

Why did j-list stop advertising here?
Are they gone for good this time?
Why was there malvertizing starting roughly a year ago?
What can he tell us about the needs of the site beyond vague statements about bandwidth, server requirements, and content delivery?
Why, in his own words, will he not take donations?

No, he's obviously not required to answer anything. But some nod to the fact that he even acknowledges them would go pretty far to assuage my, and I suspect many others, concerns.

I don't think he's ever going to publicly post here again desu

>>744038
We need 2chs help and desperately if we want to save our site.

>>745259
He doesn't need to, he has everything set up right now.

>/qa/ is red pilled to Hiro schemes
>the rest of the site isn't.

We should spread the word on Hiro.

>>744955
Of course not. Swaglord was the closest mod to moot considering they were very close friends. Doesn't mean I forgive him for being a corrupt piece of shit

Fuck off 8gag.

>>745267
/v/ seems like a good place, give its fast and unmoderated nature.

/a/ is cucked by mods and threads get deleted within 3 minutes.

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>>745267
Most people don't care. The only reaction you will get is people calling you paranoid /pol/fag or 8gag shill.

So what can be done to stop Hiro? Our only hope is to have either Mike Cernovich or Martin Shkreli buy the site

>>745280
It's just the mods going full damage control

>>745259
I have to agree