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Hiro This Is Our Concencous: Mods Must Go!

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So after looking over your latest posts on here in this thread >>682208 . Going through what people want to see changed and what needs to be done to 4chan, the majority of people are agreeing across all the boards that something must be done about the moderation, that something being a complete and total removal of all current mods.

Many people are asking for new rules and some new boards. However, you must understand Hiro that none of this will even succeed in the end, because of just how bad our moderation is. The mods have shown time and time again that not only are they lazy, but that they:

-Will delete random threads that are actually on topic for no apparent reason, such as with /v/.

-Mods are often not even deleting the shitposting on certain boards like /g/ and /o/, instead allowing it to stay up.

-Mods on here are extremely corrupt, such as /tv/'s mod Invisibro aka Swaglord. He is allowing shitposting to happen there non stop, and has actually left up Black Porn, Guro, Bestiality, and even CP for hours on end. He has actually admitted that he finds all of this amusing. The same case can be applied to /co/, where in which the mods there have been known to delete any threads they don't like, including anything critical about certain shows.

-The mods have zero respect towards the userbase, and zero percent towards you as seen with the /tg/ mod. They don't give a fuck about any of us or you, and instead think they're right and we're all wrong. I will be happy to tweet at you proof of mod abuse and corruption, though I believe I already have.

-The mods don't train the janitors. In the IRC logs, the mods admitted that they gave up on training them, and instead sent them out into the field with no guidance or rules to follow.

We, as a imageboard site and as a community cannot begin to implement the necessary changes to our boards and to 4chan unless the moderation is removed completely. I will now explain what we can do to replace the mods.
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Purge all the mods and let 4chan becomes fun again.
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>>684062
In terms of the mods Hiro, I have already explained that the current crop of them need to go, along with the janitors. From there however, we must come up with a way to hire new mods. Some suggestions were raised in the last thread and in order suggestion threads across 4chan.

-Hire volunteers to be the new moderators: This is something you actually suggested, and its honestly the best plausible option to bring in new mods. However all possible candidates will have to be vetted. They must show that they are over 18, have a detailed knowledge about the history and culture of 4chan, and must have had some experience moderating an image board.

-No more Global Mods: What I mean by this is that the current system of Global Moderation does not work anymore. Every time the board gets a new mod who doesn't understand anything about the board he is moderating, it creates a clusterfuck of problems. Instead we should be looking at board specific mods. That means each board will have his own moderators, and they are in charge of that board and that board only. I would recommend we have at least 3-4 mods per board for different hours of the day and such.

-Transparency is a must: For these new mods to be good, we must make them be transparent with the userbase 100% of the time. I would recommend giving each mod a unquie ID that allows the users to track exactly what they have said and who they have banned and for what reasons given. That way we can see if a mod has abused his power, and if he has, the userbase will decide if he to be removed or not.

-More interaction from you: I cannot begin to stress this enough: You need to interact with us more. You bought this site from m00t, and now you know that we need a leader, an admin we can trust will make 4chan great again. You must be that person Hiro
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>>684062
>here's the 5 main points I want people to take from the previous thread
>It's all mods fault!
>mods are evil!
>mods are dumb!
>mods delete things I like
>mods did everything bad
Jesus christ on a stick.
>muh 8gag created IRC logs
The IRC logs are fake you imbecile. Way to misrepresent what the 800+ thread was about. Good job proving right the people who say /qa/ is misleading shit.
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>>684074
t. mod scum
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>>684075
Hiro knows who is who, newfriend.
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>>684074
t. mod

>>684079
He sure as fuck knows the mods are corrupt and hate him
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>>684141
everyone loves hiro

>corrupt
"cor·rupt
kəˈrəpt/Submit
adjective
1.
having or showing a willingness to act dishonestly in return for money or personal gain."

top lol, my dude
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>>684062
please don't remove swaglord
[s4s] needs him
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>>684142
>1.
And the rest?
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>>684142
>Personal gain
Why are you saying this is wrong again?
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>>684062
Agreed. All mods are cancer.

Don't forget that Swaglord called for raids on /qa/ in /s4s/
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>>684142
We all know you're Rapeape's bitch Invisibro. Better start looking for a new job soon
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>>684074
>The IRC logs are fake you imbecile. Way to misrepresent what the 800+ thread was about. Good job proving right the people who say /qa/ is misleading shit.

yep, gigabytes worth of text were all faked

swaglord, you cuckold motherfucker
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>We, as a imageboard site and as a community cannot begin to implement the necessary changes to our boards and to 4chan unless the moderation is removed completely.
>and if he has, the userbase will decide if he to be removed or not.
I think you might be retarded.
I'm glad /qa/ isn't taken seriously.
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>>684062
I want to add that I like how you have "our" and "consensus" in the subject, it's cute to see how you believe that you actually represent anyone. It's not like you don't have some good points, but the total score is in the negative.

Also, why do I get subversion vibes from this?
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>>684566
>t.mod
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>>684074
>irc logs are fake

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

You cucks are still stupid enough to believe anybody will fall for that?
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>>684478
Stop parroting bullshit about swaglord you dumb cunt. He has never called for a raid.

Prove me wrong. I fucking dare you. Prove that he has directly called for a raid. Nope, you can't. You'll find a vague source and construe it in a way until it sounds like a raid. Just like the /q/tard you are
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>>684062
If anything, we need more mods. Shitposting is still rampant. Get rid of the worst of them, bring more in.

>inb4 hurr durr u r mod!!!1
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I disagree with everything you say, therefore you can't call it a consensus.
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>>684144
>please don't remove swaglord
>[s4s] needs him
Yeah? Got anything juicy?
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>>684585
thanks for correcting the record
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>>684600
>the gullible faggot who fell for the fake IRC logs is telling me I'm a stupid cuck
Wow it's like I'm on /qa/ or something. Oh wait...
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>>684074
If you have nothing of value to add in this thread, fuck off back to /j/ and do you fucking job.
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>>685529
Everybody knows the truth now, mister mod. It's time to stop pretending.
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>>685529
will it become true if you keep repeating it, cucklord?
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>>685533
The thread is not valuable in the first place being a misleading misportrayal of the topics and opinions expressed in the previous thread.

Can't piss in an ocean of piss, Anon.
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>>685539
If you have nothing of value to add in this thread, fuck off back to /j/ and do you fucking job.
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>>685540
I am the only person adding valuable information to the otherwise worthless disinformation thread. I challenge you to prove me wrong.
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>>685543
>valuable information
Such as?

>disinformation thread
Such as?
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>>685544
The entire thread, Anon, especially all of your posts.
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>>685545
>especially all of your posts
How would you know which posts are mine?
Are you admitting to being a janitor or a mod?
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>>685546
Whether or not I actually am is irrelevant. I enjoy it when you insist I am because you think it somehow proves your argument. Please continue.
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Mods ---> Out
Japanese females <---- In

Hiro why havnt you done this yet
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Why not give the user submitting the report the ability to select the rule being broken?
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>>685548
>Whether or not I actually am is irrelevant
It it entirely irrelevant to the claim that you know which posts are mine.
>I enjoy it when you insist I am because you think it somehow proves your argument.
What is my argument that you think you are arguing against?
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>>685553
You are the one who keeps telling me to gb2 /j/. I must be some kind of something then, right?
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Whats my incentive for reporting anything these days?
Countless ive reported blatantly rule breaking threads only for them to remain hours later.
Anytime i do report threads now i just report it as illegal because why not.
I think the moderation team and the system itself needs an overhaul
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Not sure what you faggots are talking about, the mods are as good/bad as ever.
>respect
>corrupt
>transparency
Reddit is calling
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>>685582
Fuck off mod.
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>>685585
I really hope Hiro will merge /qa/ and /trash/ so you underaged nigger babies finally realize how (un)important your hurt feelings are.
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>>685587
Whatever, mod.
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>>685587
>MUH FEE FEES
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>>684833
>we need more mods

"No"
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OK, champ.
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>>684074
>The IRC logs are fake you imbecile
>>they are fake because i'm out of the loop and i don't know anyone who is in it
>>i won't believe it until someone spoonfeeds me

LMAO
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>>684074
>literal gigs of logs
>fake
This is your mod team everyone
Thanks for doing a great job in keeping the likes of ruggarell and barneyfag from shitting up /v/
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>>685639
>>685631
Ladies and Gentlemen, Let's give 8gag a round of applause. They've really turned out ITT.
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Hero can you ask mods to stop banned threads related to Maki on /g/? She's what /g/ calls the community tech waifu and we don't use her for shitposting. Also we would like to request one of the Maki banners from the previous vote be used.
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>>685769
>we
You're doing it again.
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>>685778
He's right though. It's important to have Maki on /g/, especially the banner thing.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11267252
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>>685804
/g/'s priority right now is to get a new mod who can clean up the rampant shitposting with Apple, Android and Windows 10
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>>684062
That's a good start.

I would like to add that /tg/ and /qst/ came to an agreement sometime back. Either make /qst/ a general roleplaying board or make quests /tg/, and every board, related again. Put an option that only bumps them to page 2 so the front page doesn't fill up with newly-bumped quests.

Someone on /a/ had an excellent idea as well: Make threads only age if 'age' is put into the options field. Mark posts that bump threads.
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Bumping to highlight OP's glaring spelling error.
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>>686188
His faggotry is the first thing that catches the eye
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>>684074
Mods are embarrassing subhumans.
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>the consensus is that I want super serious discussion like I see on reddit

OP is a faggot and does not speak for everyone
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Fucking /tg/ mod constantly deleting the one meta-thread that hiro allows to discuss improvement.

Are all mods this asinine?
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>>687171
Some of them clearly are, but I can't think of any other mod who so doggedly tries to shove his policies down the throat of a board userbase as the one managing /tg/ and /qst/ right now.

I wonder if the Nazimod of days gone by was this bad.
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>>687175
They believe him to be the nazimod.
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Okay first and foremost can someone get this guy a fucking translator who drives to his home or skypes him every time he plans on addressing the site?

We're going to be on the 2nd year anniversary of Hiro owning the site before any of this happens, just because of the miscommunication.
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LOLI IN TRASH PLEASE


PLEASE ALLOW
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>>687175
From what I've heard, not that bad as that one just handed out bans like candy on holloween.
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>>687175
He's not as bad as the nazimod. At least not yet.
His attitude and modus operandi seems to be very similar to ol'd nazi, but this guy has less targets. For now, at least. Nazimod started small too, so that might not mean anything in a few months.
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>>684062
I don't know about other boards but moderation in /asp/ is total shit. I can understand if they can't get someone for ban evading, but they can still monitor threads for shitposting and delete spam threads, made only to annoy.
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>>685529
>literally 50mb of logs
>"fake"
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>>687247
>50mb
What happened to "literal gigs of logs" ?
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>>687331
gigs an logs
gigs an logs
I got your whole testimony
so don't you front
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>>687235
>but moderation in /asp/ is total shit
I don't think /asp/ even qualifies for the claim that there is any moderation, let alone shit moderation.
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>>687339
no, there is some, but it slacks
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>>684062
>>684071
Of all the garbage suggestions floated around here, we finally have some fucking GOOD ones right here. Mods are lazy at best, and they only pretend to care when they can abuse power and force their influence.

>>684074
>t. assblasted mod
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>>687350
>waaaah my shitposting thread got deleted!
>mods are assblasted
Do you even look at what you type before you send it?
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>>687360
You've been on damage control the entire thread. Pretty embarrassing don't you think?
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>>687363
No. What's your excuse?
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>>687365
Autism.
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>>685529
>>687331
Do you have any idea how much text can fit into 50mb of text files? You are looking at between 1~4 bytes per character. Let's break that down a little:
50mb = 6553600 bytes
6553600 bytes =
1 byte: 6553600 characters
4 byte: 1638400 characters
For the sake or argument, let's say one half the characters used are in the textual discussion part of the IRC channels, with the rest being user name, whitespace, etc.
3276800 characters on average = 684,092 words*
819200 characters on average = 171,023 words*
*The average is 4.79 letters per word, and 80% are between 2 and 7 letters long:
http://norvig.com/mayzner.html
How do these values stack up against averages on text per page?
684,092 words = 2736pages*
171,023 = 684pages*
*averages approximately 250 words per page:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=608972
For comparison, there are apparently 783,137 words in the King James Bible. That's 3132 pages, only 396 pages longer than the conservative values listed for 50mb of IRC text logs. Realistically it would be a lot higher, as removing half the data allowance just for things like usernames, IP timeouts, automated messages and whitespace is probably on the high end.

That's still a lot text, which is reasonable for the accumulation of discussion over a lengthy period of time, which is consistent with all the other leaked IRC logs over the years.
If you think anons can be that easily convinced that they were fake, you really undersestimate the shrewdness of anons. It isn't like started using the Internet yesterday and haven't seen these sorts of things before.
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>>687370
50 mb =/= 1 gb. Also, they're fake.
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>>687350
May as well repost this, as the thread died due to being overlooked among the other threads about moderation, etc.
>>679930
Pic related is an image I mocked together of a hypothetical ban on /a/, but it could any board.
The proposition is not to change any rules but to make the process more transparent. Moderation transparency is something anons have been asking for years, yet in that time m00t either ignored such feedback or took active steps to further obfuscate the activities of moderation from those of the anons who make this site possible.
The general idea is to have an automated system of tagging posts with reports, and implementing a checkbox system into the report page, which forces anons to select which global and/or board rules the post in question infringes. One the report is submitted, the post becomes tagged, which changes with ongoing reports until it is either banned or a mod removes the invalid reports.
If it is kept impersonal and transparent, like pic related, there will not be the issue of the occasional "MODS=GODS" bullshit, which public bans entail, as it will be a regular part of the system and not something mods use to distract anons. Moderators should also be provided a four digit number which is referenced on the ban. Pic related provides an example of such a thing.

What are you thoughts, criticisms and suggestions?
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>>687371
>Also, they're fake.
They aren't fake and no one is buying your derail attempts.
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>>687370
And although you didn't mention it specifically, even if people are mad they're not actually invested enough to fabricate that much bullshit. Copy pasting an IRC is just straight up easier than any lengthy argument.
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>>687374
They are indeed fake, i'm not the only one saying so ITT, and the only "no one" in this thread is you.
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>>687371
I'm sure they're fake, I totally believe you.
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>>687378
I don't care if you believe it or not. They ARE fake. This is an objective fact that has been corroborated by other mods. Furthermore, they were created on 8gag.
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>>687380
What's wrong anon? I said I believe you.
Don't you believe me? We're in this together.
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>>687382
No you don't or you wouldn't have used the word "totally". But like I said, it doesn't matter if you believe or not.. It's simply a fact.
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>>687360
>Mods
>Deleting shitpost threads
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>>687375
>Copy pasting an IRC is just straight up easier than any lengthy argument.
Not to mention attempting to replicate such a thing with consistency of multiple participants over a lenghty period of time would require either multiple authors working on it or some sort of linguistic genius.

>>687376
>They are indeed fake
Occams Razor. You are not convincing anyone.
>i'm not the only one saying so ITT
Yes, I'm sure there is at least another hotpocket or shitposter joining in.
>and the only "no one" in this thread is you.
What does that even mean?

>>687380
>Furthermore, they were created on 8gag.
Sweet fuck, you really are a hotpocket.
They weren't even leaked on 8ch first. Do you think people actually buy into this narrative?
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>>687384
Totally can be used literally too. We agree on the same facts which makes them correct. Why don't you understand?
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>>687386
Yeah you're right, they should have deleted this one half a day ago.
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>>687384
>autism
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>>687386
Anon must be playing the
>the more retarded it sounds, the more likely others are to believe it
card.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ru8DMW-grY
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>>687391
>gullibility
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>>687395
>derelict apropos
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>>687397
>confirmation bias
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>>687400
>selective learning
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Hey, didn't we have this thread already? Why is it only a quarter of the size, now?
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>>687401
>Tu quoque
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>>687402
Nonono, this is the one where the OP can't spell. In the other one the OP at least knows what a consensus is.
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>>687405
>fallacy fallacy
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>>687373
Something like that is a step in the right direction and would help stomp out rumors.
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>>687370
>I am autism, hear me DUURRRRRRR
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>>687408
>phallus fallacy
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>>687413
>rampant freudianism
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>>687414
>my mom is sexier than your mom
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>>687415
>my son is sexier than my nephew
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I think we all agree that we need to have /mg/ - Magical Girl
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This is the best greentext argument I've ever seen on /qa/.

>>687418
Also supporting this idea. It would be nice to have everything magical and girl in one place, and to keep those things out of /a/ and other assorted boards.
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>>687421
>keep anime out of /a/

wut
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LET /trash/ POST LOLI PLEASE HIRO
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>>687447
Problem? Magical girls aren't always anime, but when they are they're not /a/ related.
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>>687175
All mods are basically Nazimod now.
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>>687371
>Also, they're fake.

Still pushing this lie, eh mod?

Question- why would they be fake? What in them is so damning that proves that they are fake?
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>>687497
>why would they be fake?
Not him but I'll bite. It's because 8gag users hate 4chan and are desperate to close this place down so their little shithole will get traffic.
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>>687505
What in them is so damning that proves that they are fake?
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>>684062
>removal
No, just train them properly. Then if they won't comply, let them go.

I honestly doubt the effort has been made. moot admitted he was bad at communicating with them, and Hiroyuki has a natural language barrier.

Who are the mods, in terms of how they were recruited? What is their training regime? I understand they're supposed to be anonymous, but some transparency about their selection and training would go a long way toward assuring that someone somewhere cares about 4chan's moderation.
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>>687632
It's where they came from you numbskull.
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>>687665
But they were from here.

Are you retarded?
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>>687673
No you are if you believe they were from here. 8gag at that time was launching a series of conspiracies, allegations, and false flags. You are either an unwitting dupe who wasn't there or from there. I'll let anyone who reads this decide for themselves.
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>>687660
>Who are the mods, in terms of how they were recruited?

they killed 16 chzsechoslovakians. they are interior decorators. Now they work freelance. This, that. There's nothing you can do to them that Castro hasn't already done to them.
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>>687683
How does that have anything to do with the leaked janitor IRC logs, which caused moot to panic and force all mods to hand over personal ID? The leaked logs that caused him to jump ship completely?

yeah, sure, Modcuck. You've convinced everyone.
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>>687696
>How does that have anything to do with the leaked janitor IRC logs
It was all part of the same larger disinformation campaign spanning months coming from 4chan's upstart competitor, 8gag
>The leaked logs that caused him to jump ship completely
If you believe this then there is no hope for you. Enjoy ranting about things that didn't happen.

Incidentally, I have to be very careful which screenshots I post because most of them with moots personal info would get me banned here.
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>>687373

Leave the number of reports out and only visible to mods, that shit can get abusive.

I do think however listing Mod # at the end would encourage some things though. People may whine about muh culture, but if a few bad apples are fucking things up for the group well its time to take away their toys
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>>687700
What a waste of digits.

Nobody believes your lies, modcuck.
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>>687696
>>687710
>modcuck

Samefag.
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>>685760
>he thinks it's anything to do with 8ch

kekkin

you won't find anyone who actually knows whats up posting it on KYM for trash like you to read
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remember when that janitor used to shitpost and defend all moderation on /q/ for months on end then finally got outed and lost his volunteer position?

could that ever happen again? could it be happening in this thread right now? is modcuck an actual janitor who hasn't been around long enough to remember /q/?

really makes you think........................................
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>>684074

t. a filthy /tg/ mod
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>>687728
>>687700
>>687683
>>687665
>>687505
>>687371
>>687331

>modcuckoldry

Samefag.

>>687732
Mods literally always show up to shitpost when the IRC logs are mentioned.
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Mods allow liberal discussion, but the moment someone praises Trump outside /pol/ they delete threads and ban the posters. Remove those fucking shills.
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>>687735
>Mods literally always show up to shitpost when the IRC logs are mentioned.
And it's also another chan-like site that gets the blame, too.

You could say they've become exceedingly efficient at this.
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>>687746
>also
*always
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>>687736
This is an absolute fact, especially on /co/.

>>>/co/86441363

Here is a thread celebrating how "love is love"
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>>684062
Please stop this nonsense. 4chan is fine as it is.
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>>687757
/thread
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I feel like I am the only user left who knows the site where the logs first dropped, which was neither 4chan nor 8ch.

They are real, they are uninteresting, and most of what people say the logs say are false.
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>>687735
>>687735
And yet they keep claiming it's fake
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>>687757
No. It's fucking horrible.
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>>687757
Have you seen /pol/, /tg/, /tv/, /co/, /v/ and /g/? They're absolute disasters in terms of moderation with absolutely no transparency.
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>>687171
>Fucking /tg/ mod constantly deleting the one meta-thread that hiro allows to discuss improvement.

I made a thread about it:

>>687790

Probably won't do any good, but at least it's popular.
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>>687823
You should probably stop making these threads, to be honest.

Hiro already got answers to the questions he asked directly about /tg/ stuff, you're better off waiting patiently at this point.
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>>687831
Yeah but we need him to get his ass on here anyways
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>>688833
for what?
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>>688841
For______/^\
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>>688905
Ogga booga
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>>687410
You post is the sound of a mod/janny/shitposter responding to be objectively blown the fuck out in every possible regard to the claim that the IRC log leaks were remotely faked. Instead of staying quiet you decided to foolishly draw even more attention to the post which outlines just how ridiculous the claim that even a fifty mb log is somehow nothing.

Where else you can possibly shift the goal posts from here? Carrying on like an autistic child, shouting
>THEY'RE FAKE THEY'RE FAKE THEY'RE FAKE BECAUSE WAAAAAAAAAA
Merely makes you look like a buffoon.

>>687418
How does /a/, /c/, and /u/ not effectively cover all forms of 魔法少女 topics that are ever brought up?
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>>687505
They were leaked by anons on 4chan, you fucking tool. They were only later reposted on a 8ch because mods were so desperate to keep it from being discussed here that they sperged out with the ban hammer to keep anyone posting anything related to it from posting for as long as they could.
Those logs were also discussed on other image boards. Believe it or not, there is more than just 4chan and 8ch.
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>>687757
>4chan is fine as it is.
If that's the case then you have no reason to care about anons discussing the state of moderation, etc. Unless you're being dishonest, realise exactly how fucking shit some boards are, due to moderation neglect, and don't feel comfortable about it being discussed.
There are two types of posters who kneejerk react to meta discussion and try to stop it from being productive: shitposters who benefit from poor moderation and those doing it for free.
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>>688947
Which ones are you talking about? All the ones that have come out since the hack on 4/19/14 are fake, and originated on either master(bait)chan or 8gag. The ones ITT weren't even the first or last time 8gag made fake IRC logs, the first was right after /pol/ harbor.
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The full set of logs was leaked all at once on an independently hosted 4chan spinoff, at which point the original leader gave a brief interview, before working its way back to both 4chan and other related spinoffs (including an 8ch board), and were eventually dissected on 8ch at length by autists with too much time on their hands.

You are all revisionist tards.
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>>687190
>>687451

Jesus fucking christ fuck off lolifags or actually try and discuss your point like an adult. Even made a thread for you so here's your chance faggots >>688808
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>>688953
t. masterchn administrator
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>>688956
It also wasn't mstchan. It was a website with two imageboards spun off a single 4chan board hosted on a tiny private server by one of said 4chan board's biggest shitposters in history.

There was a time when I could come to /qa/ and find people who actually knew what they were talking about because they'd actually done their research but this place is truly a fucking pile. The mods should delete it on account of the fact that you're all retarded.
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>>688962
sauce or gtfo
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>>685552
That would help a lot on /a/ actually.
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>>688973
Citation is personal experience, having posted in the original leak thread at the time. The original thread is now lost to history because the original admin regenerated the board tables at some point. The last traces of evidence can probably be found at the 8ch board for, or the archive of, the 4chan board in question. Which board? It's got a lot of independent spinoffs, that's the only hint you should need and if that's not enough you should lurk /qa/ for two more years.

Don't believe me? Bully for you. I'm sure as fuck not going to believe whatever source you've got for your claims (which, given the average level of discourse in these threads, is probably "someone on 4chan said so.")
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>>688992
>personal experience
Oh that's rich. If I only had a dollar for every false flag wannabe chanwar faggot who comes here saying this, just the ones who posted on /q/ or /qa/ alone could fill a ball pit.
>I'm sure as hell not going to believe whatever source you've got
my source is
>>687665
backtrace it yourself, genius
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>>689013
>my source is >>687665
Those, whatever they are, are bullshit.

>Oh that's rich. If I only had a dollar for every false flag wannabe chanwar faggot
There is no chanwar. Mstchan is irrelevant to the leaks. 8ch is irrelevant to the leaks. (Except, perhaps, in as so far as they were convenient places to discuss 4chan without getting banned onthe spot - but all that came after the fact.) They were dropped on a shitty little 4chan spinoff that advertises so anemically that I doubt you've even heard of the name.

If you believe I'm a deliberate shit-stirrer lying to your face in order to manufacture drama (instead of simply being a confused moron like most of the people in this thread) you're free to believe it.
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>>689028
I'll believe the screenshots and my own "personal experience" in "threads lost to history", thanks.
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>>689033
The only modicum of truth I was able to find in that post is that 4chan indeed ended up being sold.
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>>689033
>I'll believe the screenshots
A screenshot of a source is only as valid as its source. You might as well screenshot my post and declare it to be the word of God.

You haven't even talked with anyone purporting to be a janitor yourself. What you have is hearsay from hearsay from a questionable source. My own claims to you are hardly better - but they're certainly not worse.
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>>689045
I agree that it's untrue. That was the point of the crusade of misinformation and conspiracies, which did exist regardless of where it came from.
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>>688954

FUCK YOU NIGGER

LOLI IS FOR THE NORDS
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>>689050
Even if you don't want to believe me on where the logs broke - not that it should fucking matters because if they're fake it hardly matters where it was that I was first fooled - you can read the logs yourself and scan them for _any_ inconsistency with the way that 4chan has been visibly run from the outside.

For my own part, the logs seemed plausible because it seems difficult to fabricate several years of logs without a single verified inconsistency. They corroborated with the leaks previously revealed by Australian moot, and when I scanned for mentions of my "home board" its workers were dissected in sordid detail. The lurker, then, must have been an avid user of my "home board", and I imagine that all the autists from other boards also did the same thing for their boards.

I would find it impossible for someone who did not regularly browse my home board to fabricate logs with the level of detail required. If it was a hoax the hoax-crafter must have been meticulous, thorough, familiar with all the leaks up until that point, announcements on every board, happenings of every board, obsessively stalked mods on IRC, and been a decent programmer to boot simply to fabricate logs that parse.
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>>689048
>You haven't even talked with anyone purporting to be a janitor yourself. What you have is hearsay from hearsay from a questionable source
No what I have is memories of dozens off shekelshoah crusading portestfags making up a bunch of shit about 4chan staff after their general threads got deleted inn order to drive traffic from 4chan's /pol/ and /v/ to 8gag. I didn't talk about the extent of my own "personal experiences" because I didn't think they were valid. Thanks for legitimizing them as much as yours.
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>>689060
>making up a bunch of shit about 4chan staff
When GG happened I saw an astounding amount of stupid claims about 4chan flying around, but I very rarely saw anyone actually claim to have a firsthand source (other than tiny excerpts of IRC logs that did not even purport to identify the leaker). It was all shit that was obvious or had been "researched" through long and pointless conspiracy-theory infographics.
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>>689063
>>689059
I don't doubt that you remember it that way. You seem earnestly sincere in your desire to "correct the record" if you will pardon the expression. I think I will simply agree to disagree with you; my experience on 4chan during that time period was apparently just vastly different than yours.

Perhaps the truth lies somewhere in the middle of our two versions of events.
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>>689075
Or completely out-fucking-side of them.
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>>689075
>I think I will simply agree to disagree with you; my experience on 4chan during that time period was apparently just vastly different than yours.
With all due respect, I don't think you encountered any first-hand source that you attempted to vet on its merits and veracity (or at least, not one that survived the barest scrutiny). What you encountered was a bunch of liars and easily fooled retards. To extrapolate from that to the idea that all the leaks were therefore perpetrated by liars and easily fooled retards is a step I'm not willing to take.

>>689077
Alright, smartass, if you're so smart you go ahead and tell us which way is up.
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>>689077
The thread can't 404 soon enough anyway, Anon. It's based on a false premise.
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>>689082
The logs, even if fake, don't say any of the things he say they do.

So if there's one thing I suppose we can all agree on withour reservation it's that this thread is shit.
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>>689087
Fuck off. You know damn well they're real, and you know damn well that the mods hate us. That's why things are going to shit.

I fucking outlined a clear, detailed plan on what to do with the mods
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>>684074
Lol
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>>689109
>I fucking outlined a clear, detailed plan on what to do with the mods
Next, outline your clear, detailed plan to become the president.
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>>689177
This I'd pay to see.
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>>684062
>Concencous
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>>689194
Well okay Hiro, but that doesn't fix anything.
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>>684074
>The IRC logs are fake you imbecile.

Before this line, you almost had me Juanito. Back to the kitchens.
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>>689194
MAKE THE GODDAMN META THREADS ON /a/ STOP ALREADY YOU STUPID GOOK
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>>689194
Hopefully he shuts this site down. Hiro is incompetent as fuck.
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>>689082
>>689087
>>689059

>modcucks desperate to shut down users

All mods deserve death.

Also lol if you think anybody believes that the logs arent real.
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>>684062
>Concencous
it's not even fucking close
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FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LEAVE /a/ ALONE ALL THOSE CONSENSUS THREADS ARE FULL OF NEWFAGS AND CROSS BOARDERS WHO WANT THEIR SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE BOARDS OR WANT TO DESTROY /a/!!!

Just leave /a/ alone except maybe ban some generals but for the love of God leave /a/ alone!!
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jere
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>>689651
RIP 4chan
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>>689651
>Thursday, 9/21
Whatever you say, anon
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>>684062
if hero gives me mod powers he won't have to worry about /a/ ever again
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>>689651
It's not fake boys
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>>689746
Yes it is.
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>>689746
Two of the replies are before the post was made.
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>>684062
Hiro, if you're reading this, I cannot echo these sentiments enough. ALL of the mods need to go. We need no more global mods, board specific only. We need mods to be transparent, to interact with the community and for their bans to all be made publicly available so that they can be scrutinised. Swaglord and his ilk have to go, or this site will die.
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>>684062

spoken like a newfag

mods are pretty lowkey compared to how they were a decade ago.

not saying they arent shit but looking at the wrong problem
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>>684062
We need moderation transparency. Also I hate many of the mods.

This thread is full of mods proxy fagging and shills who want to see this place continue to get more and more shitty.
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>>690620
oh look you bumped it again
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Do you guys even realize how badly moderated 4chan used to be?

It's pretty good right now. I agree that mods need to read and understand reports better, though. It's annoying when you see something like an avatarfag ruining a thread even though you've reported them countless times before, simply because the mods have either ignored or failed to understand your reports.
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>>689033
>None of this is confirmed and it is all gossip

Oh ok
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>>687175
>Some of them clearly are, but I can't think of any other mod who so doggedly tries to shove his policies down the throat of a board userbase as the one managing /tg/ and /qst/ right now.
That mod is a god, dumd quest fag.
Stay on your own board
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>>684062
We don't need to oust the mods, we need more transparency and more accountability.
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I've just about had it with these mods. /pol/ is in such a wreck because of their laziness and outright hate for it.

Fucking get rid of the mods
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>>689033
all of this is accurate
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>>691873
>It's mods fault for not cleaning my shit

While that's technically their *****job*****, if you weren't such a meme dumpster you wouldn't have that problem

/b/ went to shit when it became popular, there's nothing mods can do about it. /pol/ is going through the same process, there's nothing mods can do about it.

And stop pretending 4chan and 8gag are comparable, we have 6 gorillion more users
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It's funny because in 2008 and 2012, we had moderation overhauls that were much-needed.

See:
https://www.4chan.org/news?all#106

>The most pressing issue facing the community is a lack of consistent moderation and communication from myself and the team. Sound familiar? That's because it was the same story four years ago.

So we're actually due for a moderation overhaul. Every four years seems like a good term (I mean, that's the same as a Presidential election term in the USA, right?). So since users are starting to grow unhappy with the state of moderation on the site and the transparency of the mods, it makes sense that we start thinking seriously about what's to be done.
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>>684062
As an organizer of the /lgbt/ consensus, I give my personal support to this proposal, although I do not claim to speak on behalf of my board.
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>>691883
That's pretty interesting
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>>684062
>A bunch of entitled faggots on a board, that less than 1% of 4chan ever visit, think they can speak for the entire site

This is why it's GOOD that mods and hiro doesn't listen to /qa/.
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>>691883
The only "overhaul" that happened was creating /q/, which was then deleted for being a terrible board for whiners. Sound familiar?
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>>692304
>ITT I work for Hiro Nagasaki for free
at least try to blend in, dumbass
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what needs to happen:
>fire abusive mods
>promote good janitors
>open janitor applications
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I agree, throw the mods out! they turn away good posters
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>>687418
I support this idea.
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>>693777
why?
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