ITT : we finally address the loli problem

>>688808
>we finally address the loli problem
There is no "we" here, and what loli problem? loliposting is banned and this is not a problem.

I'm Mary Whitehouse and please ban everything I don't like

Ban OP

>>688808
loli should be allowed on all red boards provided it's on-topic
there is no legal reason not to

>>688810

Its a problem when some autist who types eeriely the same eay every thread attempts pretending to be multiple people to stir up "change" by spamming the catalog. I may be reading those threads wrong or I may be right. I dont know for sure so this might be actually be a community problem. Got 3 reasons why loli should stay banned?


>>688813

3 reasons please

>>688817

Shitposts should be bannablr on /qa/. Be serious unless you guys want autists spamming the goddamn board everyday. Thanks.

>>688820
It's immoral, it's perverted, and it's anti-Christian.

>>688820
>Got 3 reasons why loli should stay banned?
I only need one: >>>/global/rules/1

>>688822
Where is your reason? You posted something completely unrelated

>>688821

See? Was that so hard? Its when we make one sentence or even one worded posts and spam the goddamn catalog that we revert back to animals.

Lets keep ths discussion up and mods please delete those other threads and all the fucking teethgirl spam thanks.

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>>688825
the spoons girl

>>688824
It's illegal you nincompoop.

http://theconversation.com/when-a-drawing-or-cartoon-image-can-land-you-in-jail-33418

>>688827
dont click its a viruse

>>688825
trolled hard

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>>688822
>>688827
loli is allowed by US law
4chan is a company located in the US
therefore you're retarded
next time try to use a link that supports your argument, not destroys it
>The court felt that as there was no harm caused to real children, it merited First Amendment protection. Eventually further legislation arrived in the form of the PROTECT Act 2003, which was much more narrowly tailored to criminalise non-photographic pornographic images of children, but only if they are indistinguishable from actual images of a minor.
also
>typo in the one paragraph I decide to copy
try not to link trash next time

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>>688808
posting Jesus

>>688827
If it was illegal /b/ would not have loli threads.

>>688834
yeah well I fucked your mom perv

Loli should be allowed on /e/ and /h/.

Loli being a huge part of anime and manga being banned on red hentai red board is such a dumb fucking thing.

>>688844
good dubs but that's degenerate

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What do you guys think about /trash/? The Loud House Generals have complained about being restricted to SFW material only.


Is /trash/ really just a /b/ clone or should it be held to a higher standard?

>>688853
dumb frogposter

>>688808
I think on a rule34 board like aco, not allowing loli characters is stupid. It just means certain characters can never be represented. Dumb shit.

Anyone offended by a drawing doesn't belong here. It's pencils on paper. It's not a child.

>>688853
/trash/ isn't a real board
if people want more /b/ give them a higher bump limit and double the catalog

>>688808
Explicit loli art should be allowed on /trash/, /e/ and /h/.
I find it funny that the autistic scorekeeper anon abandoned the other thread after a while.

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>>688868

He wasnt autistic, he was doing his duty. If some faggot is going to rig a poll then you damn better well know someone is going to catch on and count things.

Cant fuck with math hombre.

If GET then /trash/ gets its loli

This ruling is final

>>688888
wew

>>688888
Nice script faggot

>>688848
>muh degeneracy

Ban /pol/ too.

Lets get back on topic.

>>688919
see
>>688888

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>>688895

Yeah if only i wasnt on my phone and using the oldest version of Floen's Clover m8

Back on topic everybody.

Lets make this a productive thread.

>>688932
see
>>688888

>implying mods should listen to GETS

Back on topic guys.

>>688932
what else is there to be discussed?
GR3 should just be removed
it serves no purpose

>>688936

Im a newfag, whats GR3?

>>688937
Global Rule 3

>>688935
It says very clearly that the ruling is final, my man

>>688940

If we listened to every GET this place would be a shithole. Back on topic or i fear the modd will ban you for disrupting discourse in the wake of all these spam threads. You're not a spammer, are you?

OK
Ban loli for to make 4 Chan safe for women and child

Anyone who faps to lolicon should be subpoena'd and fucking raped in prison. You losers are the most likely pedophiles on this site. Just look at Thaddeus, one of the only true black anime fans and he had the most CP out of any man in America.

You guys are fucking sick. I await your death.

>>688961
nice double space reddit!

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>>688961
>>688963
holy shit how can anyone get so anally destroyed, just stay on your containment board
>>>/pol/

>>688961
Redpill me on horsecocks

C'mon guys lets not get emotional here.


Just explain why or why not YOU believe loli should be allowed on whatever board(s) you visit.

>>688984
>Just explain why or why not YOU believe loli should be allowed on whatever board(s) you visit.
Because lolifags are no better than furfags except that they are hated far less on 4chan.

>>688991
Redpill me on horsecock

>>688995
That's a question for your mother. She the one that spends all night in the barn with that stallion.

Back on topic.


Like it or not we are going to stop the loli debate today whether your group gets their way or not.

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>>689017
あ

Reminder that only redditors are against allowing loli in /trash/

>>689034
forget /trash/
loli should be allowed on all reds where it's on topic

>>689035
This.

>mfw 4chan is literally pandering to normalfags

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>>689034
>>689035
>>689037

The fact you guys needed to be contained ITT cuz you've made dozens and still FAILED to get your precious pedoshit has me dying laughing. Stay mad faggots you'll never get it outside /b/ lol

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>>688808
Op like loli

>>689057
reminder to new users that this is the official face of horsefaggotry

>>689093
Reminder that furry and horse porn is allowed on /trash/ and loli isn't
Really makes you think

>>689102
Garbage goes in the garbage bin, makes sense to be honest

>>689104
Yeah, it does, but loli doesn't have a home at all, not even in /trash/

>>689106
it used to
only because moot was a fag did it get deleted

If you hate loli, get off 4chan and go back to Facebook. Seriously normalfags either get the culture of fuck off

>>689111
Which is iroinc since loli is allowed on /b/ which is mostly facebook users

Allow loli on /trash/ and be done with it. You pussy ass normalfags don't even go there

>>689115
All normalfags need to be purged in general.

>>689115
that's not what irony means
and the most normalfag infested board is by far /pol/
followed by /v/

Its crazy how much 4chan changed.

>>689108
>>689119
The wost part is that the pony porn generals on /trash/ occasionally post underaged characters(even in the humanized threads) and they get away with it, its rather unfair desu

>>689123
>the most normalfag infested board is by far /pol/
>the board the created loli Hilary

>>689129
The mods are to blame mostly. Most don't even like 4chan, nor our culture

>>689057
Sup Reddit cuck?

>>689130

Because IRL you cant make child porn out of horses, no matter how young they are. They just call it beastiality.

I guess 4chan is okay with beastiality?

>>689137
>the board the created loli Hilary
it did?
strange because loli gets reported and deleted on /pol/
it was shadman who created hiloli

>>689160
And we spread it around. Fucking mod cucks got no problem deleting that, but are totally fine allowing the numerously increasing shitposting threads to stay up

>>689160
>shadman
>creating Hilloli

hahaha no : >>>/pol/89023233


we did pick it back up though : http://boards.plus4chan.net/pco/t210258.html#

>>689172
>>689179
guess I was partially wrong
this is pretty fun
+1 drawfag

God damn I love penis in my mouth.

>>688808
Loli is fucking disgusting and needs to be banned, full stop.

I like loli

>>689155
There's a beastiality thread on /trash/ right now, actually

>>689265

we are beyond saving

>>688991
/thread

Ban OP that keeps beating a dead horse, it will never happen

>>688808
>3 reasons

Loli is cute
Flat is justice
2D>3D

>>689971

this. its getting out of hand. at thi point in ready to just say yes to loli and shut them up

>>>/trash/5391210

>>688808
Keep loli banned on all boards.

>>690042
Why?

>>689971
>>690009
>>690042
is there any reason to have loli banned and not present on its own board
except moralfagging?

>>690069
illegal in multiple countries, and encourages CP spam
you know, the original reason it was banned

>>690096
>illegal in multiple countries
not the US, which is where it's located
and viewing it isn't illegal in most cases, just owning it
>and encourages CP spam
not a reason really
problem would be with CP spam, which is still there, and not loli

>>690096
>illegal in multiple countries
lol who cares about those other countries, 4chan is hosted in the US and follows US law
>and encourages CP spam
do you have a single fact to back that up

Ban anything NSFW desu. Err on the side of caution and safety

>>690096
Different climate. Back then 4chan was less moderated than it is now and pedos basically had free reign to shitpost without much to worry about. With 4chan's size these days and how insecure 'encrypted' connections are, they get the justice they deserve.

It'd be on par with somebody trying to spam CP on Facebook or something like that. Any CP here gets hammered pretty quickly now, thankfully and it's rare these days. It's nowhere near as big a problem as it used to be.

>>690108
>>690109
>pedo mental gymastics
you guys are pathetic

>>690119
wanna know how i know you're new as shit?

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>>690120

>>690120
>>quote person
>ad homeinen
nice fallacy

The only problem is there's no /l/, one of the defining boards that made 4chan what it was.

No, instead now we have shit like /mlp/ that caters to furfaggots that were always shunned and /pol/ that has attracted the hugest cancer on internet history.

>>690146
>mlp=furry
dumb pedo poster

>>690150
>loli=pedo
dumb furry poster

>>690163

Loli must be allowed on /e/, /h/ and /trash/.
3 reasons:
>Loli is not physically harmful to anyone; nobody gets hurt doing it or watching it.
>Loli is an imporant part of anime/otaku culture, and that's 4chan's original purpose.
>Loli is legal in the United States and that's where this site's based.

>>688961
>>688991
>>689057
>>690042
>>690120
Liking loli != being a pedophile in real life.
I like loli, but fucking a real underage girl is not in my plans at all. I know myself I'm not a pedophile.
If anything, if there's pedos who also like loli on this site, it'd be better if they fapped to lolis rather than real CP.
Lolis don't cause any kind of harm to anyone because it's all fucking fictional.
CP is a real problem; most children involved in that are abused and they suffer a lot, and that's what is real fucking shit and people who work in that business sure should be fucking hanged, but seriously? Lolis? That fat nerdy artist who drew some porn most probably didn't harm anyone whilst doing that.

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>>690222
>attempting to reason with normalfags
Waste of perfectly good keystrokes, desu.

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>>690222
Oh boy, the tradition argument again. 4chan's original purpose and what it is now are different things, also pic related

>>689035
What do mods consider on-topic? Moderating Loki on every single red board would be frustrating, to say the least, and not all mods are equal. Some will ban anything they don't like.

>>690251
4chan was, is, and it always be mainly an imageboard for anime and Japanese culture.

>>690255
*it will always be

>>690255
>mainly an imageboard for anime and Japanese culture
>only a fifth of the boards are related to those subjects
keep trying

>>690254
>What do mods consider on-topic?
what's considered on-topic now for the exception of the clause in GR3
if it gets its own board though I can see it being off-topic on /e/ and /h/
I mean you'd still get the arguments like LN and DJT to /jp/, but those are always there.
If you make it containment like /mlp/ I guess that's one way to do it.
But unless it's spam, what's the negative of having it on red boards?
Even on /b/ lolispam isn't a problem, I doubt you'd have to moderate much at all.

>>690296
fucking newfags I swear

>>690299
>petty insult with zero argument
again, keep trying

>>690298
>What's the negative of having it on red boards?
Nothing, except moralfagging and stuff.
SFW loli should be allowed on all blue boards too.

>>690308
But it is? I mean, I never got banned for posting Cirno or Roll or what-have-you in /v/.

>>690096
>and encrourage CP spam

Thats funny because /tv/ have daily children cunny thread without the help of any loli 2D image whatsoever.

>>690314
The line gets kind of blurred on /a/, at least from what I've seen.
If I remember correctly, a mod said that they don't like loli on /a/ because it leads to blog posting and non-anime discussion, but that's a different story I guess.

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Allowed or not I'll always post loli to trigger normalfags.

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>>690325
>The line gets kind of blurred on /a/, at least from what I've seen.
Never encountered that myself.

>>690327
That's the spirit!

>>690325
Thats every fetish thread on /a/.

What I find most hilarious about this are the complaints about lolicon being posted elsewhere, when creating /l/ would not only make those who post it happy, but get it back out of boards where 'it doesn't belong'.

>>690343

this

I want NSFW loli allowed for drawthread purposes, namely /trash/, /co/, /v/, and /a/. No, /b/ is shit.

[spoiler]reminder that loli and shota is art. looking at you, whiteknightfags[/spoiler]

Would be nice if SFW loli posting was allowed on /a/, /co/ and /v/.

>>690446
nah, just leave blue boards as is when it comes to /h/ loli
you have >>>/i/477983
for nsfw deliveries, just post the link to the board

>>690446
>Would be nice if SFW loli posting was allowed on /a/, /co/ and /v/.

They are on /a/ and sometime on /v/ if you are very lucky.

No idea about tumblr /co/ land.

>>690446
>Would be nice if SFW loli posting was allowed on /a/, /co/ and /v/.
Why do people keep saying this? It's already allowed.

>>688822
fucking moron

As for the morality of it, it's fiction. It's about as immoral as killing hookers is in GTA.

As for the legality of it, it's legal in the US. There'd be some issue with, say, Canadians and loli if their government gets really nosy, but a solution would be for a loli/shota-centric board that blocks IPs from countries that ban it. That said, loli is already allowed on /b/ and sites like nhentai, but no Canadian has been arrested for going on /b/ or nhentai, even though that would technically count as accessing CP by their retarded laws.

As for whether it fits 4chan: yes. If you can post it legally, you can post it. That's what makes 4chan so great in a time when most sites severely restrict what can be said and shown to appease advertisers. The only issue is to give it a home where it can be on-topic for the board it's hosted in. I'd say that belongs to /d/ or its own board, depending on how necessary it is to keep things legal in other countries.

Reminder: loli used to have its own board, but moot shut it down because he personally thought it was morally wrong. Moot's a faggot that now works for Google.

>>690503
/thread

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Please do not allow loli on /trash/, at least until /fur/ is created

/trash/ does not want loli, fuck off with these threads

>>690541
/trash/ IS /fur/.

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>>688961
you know I was like you when I came to 4chan for the first time, in fact I came exclusively just to call all the pedos sick.
10 years later and I love the loli.
and you will eventually go down the same path

>>690543
who cares what it wants, its trash .

loli should be allowed on /b/-

pretty obvious, as it's an everything goes thread.

on /trash/

Same sort of thing. Every other weird fetish you can imagine is relegated there. Having no loli is just absurd and bizarre.

/aco/-

/aco/ was supposed to be a porn board for western cartoons and comics. A good portion of those are underage boys and girls. Disallowing the subject makes little sense, since it's already a porn board.

Also, and related to the subject, is "furry." I don't mean OC sparkledogs, but established Western anthropomorphic cartoon and comic book characters. Bugs Bunny, Minnie Mouse, etc. It's pretty absurd we're not allowed to post porn of famous cartoon characters because of antiquated rules from 2007, that are enforced more as a joke than anything else.

>>690544
/trash/ allows non-furry threads too
I don't have anything against miscellaneous threads on /trash/ but autistic threads, like hunger games or pedo house general, already create too much traffic for the board
Allowing loli means that every pedophile is going to flock to /trash/ and furfags are going to get shafted on the last board they're allowed to post

>>690573
I really don't care about /trash/
in fact nobody but furshits do
just give loli its own board already and be done with it
as >>690503 stated the only reason it's not here is because of moot's moralfaggotry

>>690503
>Reminder: loli used to have its own board, but moot shut it down because he personally thought it was morally wrong.
/l/ was shut down 2 times (in 2003 and 2004), the first time because it got spammed with real cp, the second time because it used too much bandwidth (not due to it having a lot of posters but a lot of leechers). /l/ was never really just loli but loli + child models + cp. moot didn't want to have to deal with that again because he probably found cp to be both distasteful and morally wrong, although he never voiced his opinions about it, same as with drugs he'd rather made an appeal to legality (ie it's bad because it's illegal). He simply didn't want to appeal to that userbase so /l/ was shut down forever.

>>690573
There's a demand for /loli/ on trash. We've had threads before that flew in under the radar.

>create too much traffic for the board

I'm sorry, please explain why traffic is a bad thing.

>furfags are going to get shafted

How? You pretty much have an entire board to yourselves now. You can't even come up with enough different sorts of threads to keep them all active. You've got to start threads for individual OCs or drama threads about artists you don't like.

There's perfectly enough room for loli and shota threads without causing you any problems at all.

Drawfag here.

So Old Moot's big thing used to be about users creating new original content. Well, other artists and me create content.

And as an artist I always wanted to have a board where I could draw porn of western cartoon characters. And western cartoon characters. Underage, anthro, cartoons that mods didn't like, whatever.

Fix the rules. Content will come.

>>690577
>just give loli its own board already
NO
then the puritans on /a/ will use this an excuse to throw a tantrum every time a loli is posted and tell them to go to /l/

>>690611
>things that literally never happen
/a/ is one of the most pro-loli boards

>>690591
>I'm sorry, please explain why traffic is a bad thing.
>There's perfectly enough room for loli and shota threads without causing you any problems at all.
See
>>/trash/5394712
>>/trash/5394758

co/hg threads pop up like fucking mushrooms every 20 minutes or so, they're created more often than actual furfaggotry threads

Unpopular comic? Can't discuss it on /co/ because GR3, can't discuss it on /trash/ because /trash/ is too fast
Artists showing their current work in progress? Can't discuss that on /ic/ because GR3, can't discuss it on /trash/ because it's too fast
And so on

>>690622
>trash is too fast

bullshit. I hate hg threads as much as the next guy but they're seriously not that big of a problem. If your special snowflake thread got bumped off of /trash/, it was because nobody gave a shit, not because traffic is too high. There are plenty of low traffic threads on that board that stay active for days.

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>>690631
>There are plenty of low traffic threads on that board that stay active for days.
Only because someone takes time bumping them like it's a fucking job

>>690613
So is /v/, though there is a vocal minority, they're always beat out by loli posters.

>>690468
There is a lot of loli posting on /co/ but the mods there are very sensitive about it.

See: Gwen Tennyson and Wonder Loli(young Wonder Woman), the loli queens of /co/

There were /loli/ and /shota/ boards on 4chan early on in its life. Moot was contacted by authorities over it. Certainly not a good idea now.

>>690611
This, Making a /l/ board will just stir loli hate even more if a loli is posted outside it.

Allow loli on /trash/ because there's no reason not to.

>>688857
No fuck off

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Mods don't care about it, and they'll likely never allow loli again. I'm not even that much into loli/shotacon, but I would love if it was allowed, if only because it is the single greatest normalfag/moralfag filter. Nothing gets them more riled up, and some even leave the site because of it.

Oh cry more faggots. There's literally nothing wrong with being a pedo.

>>690868
>plugs ears and screams NO NO NO

typical liberal

>>690637
>filename
kek

ban all loli posters

>>690995
This, they're subhuman

>>690995
>>691001
Ban all redditors

>>688857
> It's pencils on paper. It's not a child
This. Loli board has been deleted because people posted actual CP there. No kids are abused in the process of creating lolicon manga.

>>691051
It doesn't matter anymore no one's gonna care...4chan has been compromised for the longest time and we have lost this thread discussion. Only thing people want is more image/bump limit.

>>691088
the only people who are against a /l/ board is newfag /pol/ trash

>>691092
This. Only redditors, tumblrfags, and newfags are against lolis.

loli pls

>>691097
Yet you can find a shit ton of loli pic on both Reddit and Tumblr

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who needs loli on 4chan when theres a board on 8? 8 chan's loli board is making a Unteralterbach clone with loli politicians!


Can a drawfag draw a lolitician please? Thanks!

Ok, so how about this:
>Bring back /l/ - loli
>Borderline pedo contained in one board
>No more loli in other boards
>Win for everyone

>>691230
Who are you quoting?

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>>691228

I cannot fucking wait

>>691228
>8 chan's loli board is making a Unteralterbach clone with loli politicians
yeah no, they're just reposting stuff from pluschan
and personally even if I don't mind my own stuff reposted there I'm not going to go ahead with their autistic /pol/ Trump selfinsert power fantasy

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>>691233

Nor exactly. As a guy who picked up the Hilloki craze after the original OP of the generals got banned for spam, i got into contact with a VNfag from /b/ when i was dumping. Said he will make a post soon enough and suggested we use some software or whatever boring nerd shit he was talking about.

>>691239
all right
I'll see if I catch the thread

>>691181
>Yet you can find a shit ton of loli pic on Reddit
Not anymore, you can't.

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>>691279

its all so tiresome.

>>688808
There's nothing to discuss here. Loli is banned for legal reasons-- not all users are in the US, folks-- and because it drives away advertisers in droves.

>>691533
/thread

>>691533
>because it drives away advertisers in droves
what advertisers?

>>691533
Loli is not banned site wide dumbass. Otherwise it wouldn't be allowed on /b/.

it's only restricted to /b/ mostly for personal reasons, not legal ones.

>>691533
Yeah because 4chan has so many advertisers right now

Hiro is just RAKING IN the millions

>>688834
>but only if they are indistinguishable from actual images of a minor.
Where does it say this, legitimately curious. The fact sheet they link to states this in response to
>>>Problem #3: Past Legal Obstacles Have Made Prosecuting Child Pornography Cases Very Difficult. Last year, the Supreme Court declared unconstitutional a federal law that criminalized the possession of “virtual” child pornography, i.e., materials whose production may not have involved the use of real children

Response to the problem:
>>Solution #3: Strengthen the Laws Against Child Pornography in Ways that Can Survive Constitutional Review. Among other provisions, the bill will:

>>·Revise and strengthen the prohibition on ‘virtual’ child pornography.

>·Prohibit any obscene materials that depict children, and provided tougher penalties compared to existing obscenity law.

>>·Encourage greater voluntary reporting of suspected child pornography found by internet service providers on their systems.

This makes it sound like all images, even obviously 2D, like fucking PC-98 games and shit, are illegal under the law.

>>691540
The precious few keeping this site afloat.

>>691545
Ok, banned from every single board except /b/. What are the "personal reasons" it's allowed on /b/? I'm inclined to think it's allowed there only because the board moves so fast that by the time anyone like a government agency or advertiser would take notice of it any given loli thread is already long dead and, of course, not archived since /b/ doesn't have an official archive.

>>691546
Better to be making nothing than hemorrhaging cash.

>>691548
It's all in the posted article.
I'm no legal genius but I can read.

If you have more info and I'm actually wrong I would like to know.
>>691569
>The precious few keeping this site afloat.
you mean the one who sells loli onaholes and body pillows?
although even that one seems to be missing from the ad bar nowadays

>>691540
>>691545
>>691546
trolled hard

>>690613
And yet /a/ is still of of normalfags mad at loli.

>>691230
>implying a loli board will stop me from posting loli in other boards

lol

>>691852

this. the shadman shits been posted to hell and back

loli pls

gib loli

Dont allow loli on every board, just /trash/ for the artists to stop feeling restricted.

>>692275
also /i/ and /ic/

>>692321

Eh thats pushing it. Lets stuck with just /trash/ for now id suggest. Mods can give you a little but they cant give you the world in one turn. Gotta warm people up to the idea first.

>>692335
If you want artists to stop feeling restricted then you should allow it on the boards for artists, not the off-topic hidden board. Artists then can link a delivery from the /i/ NSFW drop thread to whatever drawthread that requested it rather than use offsite links like they have been doing on /trash/.

>>692350
Nobody except drawfags know /i/ exists.
It's not really a question of restriction but exposure.
If you have /l/ then you get a drawthread there and it'd get 100 times the traffic of the entire /i/ board.
It's the same with /a/, /v/, /u/ and all the rest of the drawthreads, it needs an audience.

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Every relevant red board should permit loli and/or shota, keeping it /trash/ only would be nonsensical.

Although unfortunately the normalfag mod clique is divorced from the wants and needs of the community, as well as generally indifferent and inept, so this will never actually happen.