Almost One Year Later Hiro, Nothing Has Changed

>>583098
If god forbid you have radically change this site to be more like 2ch then go for it. I for one would welcome such a massive change. moot left this site in a chaotic mess, and its partly his fault for how badly things have gotten on here, and why so many left back in 2014 for 8ch never to return. You must start getting the mods to be more transparent with the user base. You must demand they speak to us, else they lose their jobs. Its that simple. If the mod doesn't fall in line, boot them. They do it for free anyway

>>583098

best girl tho

I just want mods to follow the rules.

>>583098
Pretty much.

The mods hate 4chan and just want it to burn.

the whole site is dead man walking

>>583144
They refuse to even talk to us, since its a known fact they despise transparency. If you read on the IRC logs that got leaked, the faggot hipster Troid admitted he hates the idea

>>583098
Why would you expect anything to change? And if you really WANT change, why not just go to a website like the one you want? Change would just make current 4chan disappear, when alternatives to 4chan would remain unaffected.

>>583152
When did this happen? Today's the first time I've seen anybody say "Troid" on /qa/ and I've seen it 9 times today.

Was this a recent event?

>>583162
The IRC logs were leaked around two years ago. You can find them up on Encyclopedia Dramatica or on cripplechan. Troid is a moderator known for a few things:

>He's a hipster looking faggot
>He sucked a lot of dick to become a moderator on here
>He's a confirmed brony
>He is/was the the mod of /a/, even though he doesn't even watch anime
>He's a yuri fanboy, and will ban anyone who dares to talk shit about it.
>He has been known to call people Redditors for anyone who dares to disagree with the moderation on here
>He gets extremely assblased when you post his IRL picture, and will ban you for up to a week for posting it

Basically he's everything wrong with the moderation on here, and moot should have kicked him out a long time ago

>>583186
Yeah but like, did anything change? We're talking about him a lot lately.

Is that all just you?

>>583186
So nothing changed in 2 years and he just popped up like a song from a commercial you heard in the 90s in 4chan's collective brain.

Alright. Got it. Thanks.

>>583194
He's one of the few mods we know by name that have exposed themselves for being morons, swaglord and Redwood being the others

>>583198
>>583194
Even /a/ has acknowledged Troid on many occasions for being a shit mod

>>583201
Yeah, but RECENTLY?

Did anything at all happen with Troid RECENTLY in the last 2 years?

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This place has always been a walking corpse

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>>583098
4chan tries to revamp itself every once in a while and it never works because there's nothing to actually work. Nothing in the world has ever existed like 4chan and nobody knows what to do. We all have ideas, but no knowledge because we're in uncharted territory.

4chan's problems aren't anything to do with any one thing. It's a death of a billion cuts, and EVERYONE. You, Me, and EVERY LAST NEWFAG cuts it once.

But 4chan just keeps chugging along, because it's like a rock in space. The rock isn't actually hurt by the humans living on it. The humans living on it are just making the rock less and less inhabitable. The Earth as a sphere of rock and dirt absolutely doesn't need humans to live on it to survive because it isn't even alive. It's just a place. We are shitting it up all by ourselves, and we can't stop. It can't be done. Not by any measure of doing, letting go, believing, or even just accepting. It is what it is. For 4chan to grow better, it would need to balkanize. It would need to employ measures to reduce the number of active voices that can be heard by active ears. But even doing that would be wrong because you would be destroying the beautiful artistic emergent behavior of the mb's beautiful tandemic dance.

Hiro just leaving it alone is the best course of action possible.

>>583247
Except 8ch has been proving all of this wrong. They are the biggest rival we have, and its run by Hiro's arch enemy, Jim Watkins

>>583247
What we need is a massive overhaul in moderation. I know Hiro has said it is hard to hire new mods, but the time for hire them is now. The current staff are unreliable, insufferable faggots who despise the userbase

>>583272
>muh gamergate chan
>le actionchan
>muh subbreddits

>>583272
Well, 8ch balkanizes harder than 4chan. It has more boards.

It also has fewer users.

Your point is invalid. Nothing like 4chan.

>>583274
Why would you expect the new staff to be any less of a bunch of unreliable, insufferable faggots who despise the userbase?

The problem as I see it is that hiro is extremely hands-off in his approach, if you can call it that.
The mods once had to answer to moot, but as I've said in a thread earlier I think the triumvirate that moot put in charge after his absence is still the real influence on 4chan itself. There was a power dynamic between the moderation and moot and I think that was a key part of keeping things running smoothly.

>>583186
Yes, the fabled IRC logs from /pol/ and 8gag. Don't bring this shit here.

>>583098
>Nothing Has Changed
That's not true. The ads have changed to make Hiroyuki more shekels.

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>>583247
>4chan tries to revamp itself every once in a while and it never works because there's nothing to actually work. Nothing in the world has ever existed like 4chan and nobody knows what to do. We all have ideas, but no knowledge because we're in uncharted territory.

From the days of IRC there has been discussion about rule enforcement and virtual misbehavior. Since the nineties there has been academic research about these topics. There is knowledge. It lies not only in these academic papers, but also in the philosophers from the past and the now and in the structure and organization of the governments in 'cyberspace' and 'meatspace'. Maybe 4chan can be seen as 'uncharted', because it adds anonymity to an online community (what about Futuba Channel/2ch?). Answers can still be found in the sources I mentioned earlier and in the experiences and conclusions that can be drawn from the 13 years 4chan has existed and from the derivatives, like 7ch, 8ch and 420ch, that came into existence the following years.

>>583247
>it's like a rock in space
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rDG6pE-GGY

Are you the same anon who made the comparison with an art piece?

>>583449
>Are you the same anon who made the comparison with an art piece?

Yeah. Sorry. Been feeling kinda depressed lately.

>>583272
They dont cuck users and allow free speech. Not hard to see why they have fans.

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I honestly don't even care anymore. I'm actually OK that the old mods are still here, because sometimes I feel like I'm surrounded by newfags. (except Troid and Inspector Redwood, fuck these faggots)

>>583579
Don't forget Swaglord

4 Chan will he like Nintendo, mark my words.

Just as Yamauchi left his soul imprinted on the future of the vision of that company, so too did Moot here. Hiro is literally just a meme leader.

>>583098
>nothing has changed

he added more boards in one year than moot did in 5, how the hell is that nothing?

>>583605
No bloodshed means nothing happened I'm guessing

I like >>>/news/ very much thanks. As usual OP is a giant faggot who is whining about nothing.

>>583605
Moderation is beyond horrible. Sure he added more boards, but the changes we desperately needed, such as more mod transparency and a return to 2006 era 4chan have not happened

This site still doesn't feel like for us, it still feels like its for the mods

>>583680
>return to 2006 era 4chan have not happened
You are delusional for even entertaining this as a possibility.

>>583100

8ch is shit too m8.

>>583704
Its run better than this place

>>583474
Yes, 4chan cucks users and forbids free speech. What are you even saying? Do you think any adult reads a post like yours and thinks anything other than "this guy is an obvious low quality poster?"
There is no free speech on a private forum- if you go to /mu/ and talk about video games is it suppressing free speech when you get banned? Christ.

the moderation has gone down hill pretty badly, its almost nonexistent on a bunch of boards

>>583760
/int/ and /tv/ being the perfect examples. But I think /tv/'s is intentional seeing as Swaglord/Invisibro, aka the mod of /tv/, hates the board.

Basically he's the only one allowed to moderate it ever since moot said he could

>>583764
/vg/ is another prime example, filled with avatarfags and off topic garbage and the mods will literally warn/ban you for reporting it

>>583671

news is awful its garbage seriously try using it as your primary new source. You can't. there are still posts from weeks ago up there.

>>583735

it's run like reddit

>>583784
Which is run better than this place.

>>583784
There's nothing inherently wrong with Reddit. It's just a different platform.

Although the whole comment voting system is plain shitty.

>>583680
>Things aren't perfect
>Therefore nothing changed
You're adorable.

>>583247
>embedded book RARs
RIP
Thanks, pedos.

>>583098
More proof that Narutards are crossboarding cancer

>>>/a/143847049

>>583764
patently false - i love /tv/

>>585068
So then why did you get butthurt when /tv/ told you to fuck off because of your shitty tastes in movies? And why do you allow cuck porn spam? And CP spam? Answer me that swaggy, because you're letting that board go to shit and you seem to have no problem with that.

>>583098
3 years later, and ACK is still a faggot.

>>585095
dunno what the frick yer talkin about

/tv/ is one of the most heavily moderated boards - the janitors do a heckin' good job my dude

>>585145
Christ Invisibro you really are delusional manlet. Peope are pissed off over the handling of /tv/, and you want to do is bury your head in the sand and think nothing is wrong.

Why don't you and Troid just leave 4chan?

does anyone else not feel safe with redwood and my spiderman is black on the moderation team considering recent events?
both are confirmed anti white posters and the former has military training too

>>585207
Redwood is still a sensitive little bitch. Also

>Military Training
Sure Redwood, whatever you say

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>>583098
If you have ideas which everyone agree with,
I would implement.

>>585239
how's it going hiro

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>>585245
Not so bad.
Just start to feel hang over...

>>585239
Hiro, please make sure to read other threads on /qa/ as well.

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>>585239
Firstly >>585257 this

Also, people don't know whats a good idea. Theres no transparency what you want to site to be like/ other boards, most of the times we're just projecting are pet peeves about our home boards

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>>585239
>which everyone agree with
so you're not going to do anything

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>>585239
Hiro be my friend please man

Hiroyuki, can you make it so that posts cannot bump a thread unless the option field has been filled out with a complicated wordchain (six or even seven words) that is only accessible on the FAQ site where it changes daily or even hourly?
It ought to entice people into reading the FAQ a lot more.

>>585068
>>585145
>baitposting
Gas yourself

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>>585239
>>585252
I would love if anime and video game discussion could be banned on /tv/ more often.

Pic related. People from /v/ come to /tv/ to make these threads and talk about video games, not movies. They just pretend to talk about movies under the guise of "movie adaptations."

>>585239
>If you have ideas which everyone agree with
Hahahaha
HAHAHAHAHA

hiroyuki ## Admin 2016-07-08 22:19:09 Post No.585310
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>>585268
To maintain boards are first mission for me right now..
>>585272
There are always side effects for doing something.

>>585239
Permarangeban the people who constantly stir shit up and make it public. There's probably nothing more effective than showing the underage memespamming shitposting retards that they'll get banned for good if they keep up their stupidity.

>>585310
hey man

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>>585310
HIRO BE MY FRIEEEEEEEEEEND

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>>585310
add /zez/

>>585310
See >>585302

Maintaining /tv/ isn't hard, just remove all strictly non-Television and Film threads. Remove anime threads, remove video game threads, remove youtube threads. It has attracted way too much off-topic posting.

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>>585310
Can you add a /g/uro board senpai?

>>585310

>>585319
This and cuck porn/cunny threads. People who don't agree with it are either fag trolls or the people that post it

>>585310
Have you ever considered bringing /z/ back?

I really like the concept of /z/-banning.

>>585310
Hiro, do you read books like these >>583449?

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>>585310
>TAKING THIS LONG TO REPLY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO READ YOUR FUCKING CONTRACT ON WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T SAY AND PRETEND TO NOT UNDERSTAND ENGLISH

fuck you gookmoot we could have been freiends and sehit

>>585310
>To maintain boards are first mission for me right now
I don't know hiro, honestly that shouldn't have to be a mission to start with, the mods/jannies you picked should already care about the boards and maintaining them


Slightly off q, Did /pol/ get new jannies since the last recruitment?

>>585239
The ideas are simple: We need a reform of moderation. Meaning we need moderation that actually cares for once. If you look at /tv/ you will see piss poor moderation, rampant shitposting, and much worse. These are what are killing 4chan.

Most are in agreement with fixing moderation. However other changes, such as increasing the catalog to 15 pages, allowing sound webM are what is most talked about

>>585310
>There are always side effects for doing something.
Risks we have to take to fix this site though,

>To maintain boards are first mission for me right now..
So then get the moderators to do their jobs. If any of them show any sign of laziness, such from mods like Redwood, Invisibro and Troid, they need to be removed and someone else to take over.

This place is "for us" as you once said. It shouldn't' be the mods playground. We want mods that care, not mods who hate being transparent with us. If they won't be, then allow board volunteers and recruit from the boards themselves.

>>583098
>We
Stopped reading right there. Kill yourself nigger.

>>585302
Hes not going to do anything to /tv/
There is too much ad revenue coming from that board. I mean just look at it right now
the two threads that are "problematic" were stealth deleted and all the other /b/ tier shit left up that appeals to the average outsider are being protected

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>>585310
What is your favorite board and be honest? Also have you read Fate Stay Night?

>>585239
So basically Hiro from what you've seen all over /qa/, we need

1. More transparent and better moderation

2. Clean up boards from shitposting, again having janitors and mods that care.

3. Possibly bring back visible sage. It could be useful to tell someone when their thread is not wanted. And it'll help sage shitposting threads

4. Don't let mods inject their personal biases into moderating. For example /co/ is run by one of the worst mods on the site called Redwood. We also have horrible mods like Troid and Invisibro that need to be "talked" to so they stop goofing off and fall in line.

I don't want to see you just run off again and abandon us. Please, actually stay for a little while longer so you'll understand

>>585268
And those pet peeves are legit complaints idiot

>>585239
Hiro, as someone who used to run 2ch, what do you think you did well there? And what would you like to see get implemented here that came from there?

Also, how badly do you want to kick the shit out of Jim Watkins?

>>585257
>>585268
>Hiro, please make sure to read other threads on /qa/ as well.

>Easter
>How do we fix 4chan?
>How do we fix /tv/?
>Delete /pol/
>4chan is boring
>Anime is ruined

I'm surprised Hiro even comes on this board anymore. It's pointless.

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>>585481
/qa/ is the best board

>>585310
Remove GR15

>>585545
go awya

>>585481
Generals are a legit concern, on the other hand. Rapid spread of them as he took over and this website dipped down in quality a lot. I'm sure he can discern which threads are garbage and which ones are not.

Hiro is a cool guy I like his come-to-a-thread-to-make-a-few-posts-and-then-leave, laissez-faire style :^)

>>585239
You aren't going to find anyone on /qa/ agree with anything. This is a board filled with idiots who have no idea about anything and just want to change 4chan into their own personal hugbox. For the love of god just go to the actuals boards on the site and ask them. You aren't going to get anywhere asking /q/ 2.0 and you aren't going to do anything positive listening to the suggestions from idiots here. moot made that same mistake and fucked everything over.

If you want /qa/ to be the meta board, then you have to officially announce that and FORCFULLY make the mods communicate with us here. However, that is a bad idea and it is a better idea to tell the mods to actually communicate with the users on their respective boards then on a meta board that will be filled with people trying to dictate boards they don't use or like.

>>585558
You want to ruin a general? Promote a private discord chat for one and start falseflagging both sides to cause infighting. The amount of generals that are getting ruined because of it is working.

>>585583
Yeah, maybe you could actually start respecting him more, but its clear you don't give a shit do you? He's your boss swaglord

>>585595
It is a bit hard to 'ruin' something that is bad by the start and concept.

>>585594
He tried going to /v/ to talk about ideas for new rules and such and it fucking bombed horribly

>>585603
Everyone on /v/ agreed that thread ids were a great idea.

>>585603
Of course it did, it was a fucking sticky. It still had actual discussion and after the first 2k posts it started to calm down and start discussing things. If he actually interacted in it and went on for maybe 2 more threads it would of went somewhere. Fucking /a/ did shit with him already in stickys and it was like 3 of the stupid things with 3k posts each or something and there was minimal shitposting. It also went somewhere. The /v/ thread went no were because Hiro made it and then just abandoned it.

Hiro needs to be capable of looking past the shit and pick up the gold, not listening to deluded idiots on /qa/ who know nothing and just simply want boards to be their personal hugboxes and to destroy boards they don't like.

>>585608
No, that didn't happen. An insane amount of people said its a stupid idea and gave good reason why its a stupid idea. Most people for it just gave shitposting replies in return. IDs don't stop shitposting or samefagging. If anything, it encourages shitposting.

>>585608
If by "everyone" you mean the vocal minority drown out the sensible posters with shitposting then sure.

>>585239
please don't make a board for japanese video games

>>583098
4chan is for shitposting

dont tell me you actually use this site for discussion

>>585697
le reddit le upvote XD

>>585310

Yeah, /vp/ is still a shithole because the mods and janitors just don't give a shit about it anymore.

We have...

>The Tailsposter
>A belligerent injector making it next-to-impossible to trade because he insists on forcing an agenda that the local trading thread doesn't want or need, especially considering that it has functioned for years without issue and when there are other threads for Pokemon hacking/injecting. Said injector also uses the OTs/IDs of regulars to make hacks that get them banned from sanctioned VGC tournaments.
>High amount of posts that violate Global Rule 3 left up despite that, all of the Sunibee spam being one of 'em.
>The high amount of Pokemon GO threads despite there being a general for it.
>Pokegirl threads that often lead to ecchi/porn being posted in them.
>Genwars still occurring despite there being a rule about it.

I can tell you right now that if someone emails TPCi a link to /vp/, it'll lead to them sending you a C&D letter that will force your hand into deleting /vp/.

>>585707
>>The high amount of Pokemon GO threads despite there being a general for it.
This isn't a problem. Go elsewhere if you think it is. General don't belong here in the first place.

I'm surprised by the fact that nobody on this board has sent out an email to an authority. Nobody here has asked the opinion of a scientist, a politician or a cop.

The most Hiro has done like you mentioned is make new boards other than that he pops in rarely to do his confused Japanese man act that people eat up.

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AHHHHH HES GONE AGAIN

We're gonna have to wait another 3 months till he decides to come back


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>585310
Hi Hiro, I had a dream last night that I was at your house last night and was trying to shitpost on /jp/ under your name but you stopped me. It was lots of fun, thanks Hiro.

>>585329
i really want this back

>>583680
>Sure he added more boards, but the changes we desperately needed, such as more mod transparency and a return to 2006 era 4chan have not happened

These ideas are directly opposed though. The chaotic, unpredictable nature of the moderation on old 4chan (Or really old /b/, which is mostly what people are talking about when they say old 4chan, and heavily informed the culture of most other boards.) was part of what led to its culture of spontaneity. The mods were, if anything, even more unaccountable and opaque back then. (ZOMG NONE!!1 applies to moderators as well, after all.)

The problem with 4chan isn't moderation, it's the userbase. There's SRS BZNS faggots like you, and the rampant shitposters they attract, since you're so easily triggered. More transparent, responsive moderation would only encourage more whining, and thus attract more shitposters.

>>586074
A chaotic, unpredictable nature of moderation is also a breeding ground for shitposting.

>>585804
Go bug him on Twitter, then. If he doesn't respond, tell him how Jim Watkins is better than him. That'll get his attention.

>>585310
please tell the mods to stop deleting anime on /int/

>>586132
But only funny, 2005 shitposting. Modern, annoying shitposting wouldn't survive because they wouldn't be able to get a rise out of anybody.

>>585310
Hiro, you need to restaff the mod team. It's common knowledge that many of the current mods don't like 4chan (Troid is the only name I can recall as of now).

Furthermore, there needs to be more dedicated mods because the Easter spammer has developed a pretty good knowledge of the janny and mod schedules.

>>585473
Everything this anon Sai is correct, >>585310

So concludes hiro's monthly visit to his site.

>>586264
>monthly
Wishful thinking, it's more like once every three months

>We are sick and tired of god awful moderation from people who not only are power hungry assholes, but from mods who simply despise the userbase on here and refuse to communicate with us because they despise transparency.
The current janitor on /jp/ is completely out of fucking control and abusing his power like crazy, people have probably been sending hundreds of feedback reports about him over several months and the 4chan staff is probably completely ignoring the feedback system or just doesn't care.

And that's not even the worst, he's got atleast one mod buttbuddy who approves all of his ban requests of people telling to report the rogue janitor through the feedback system, goes to other boards to delete criticism about him and covers up his misuses.

It fucking baffles me that 4chan used to be light on moderation before, and now it's a circlejerk of powertripping mods/janitors who just pat eachother in the back for burning down the website. They're moderating the site like it was SA or neofag.

>>583098
Hiro bought this site to sell personal info. Like he gives a shit about this community.

I barely use 4chan anymore because the shitposting is active 24/7 and it's made by the same people.

>>585310
Holy shit you damn gook is really fucking simple.

If you see an thread about politics on /tv/ delete it and ban OP, if you see a feminist thread on /mu/ delete it and ban OP, if there is something that doesn't belong in that board delete it and ban whoever is making them. Rule this shithole with an iron fist, I don't give a shit if we get worst than neogaf.

>>586373
>Rule this shithole with an iron fist, I don't give a shit if we get worst than neogaf.
Go away.

>>586275
>people have probably been sending hundreds of feedback reports about him over several months and the 4chan staff is probably completely ignoring the feedback system or just doesn't care.
People cannot even be bothered to complain about him on /qa/.

Whenever /jp/ comes up around here they just get mad that the staff doesn't delete general threads and the conversation expires shortly thereafter.

>>586374
t. shitposter.

>>586378
Says the one using a shitposter meme. This isn't a serious website, rulefags should fuck off.

>>586264
I'm seriously getting sick of him doing this shit. He says stuff like >>585239 and then he bails. He says his main goal is to maintain the boards, but boards like /tv/ and /int/ are in complete disarray

>>586381
t. Redditor

>>586381
>wahhh why isn't every board a random board
/b/tard please go.

>>586407
>wahhhh i have no understand or knowledge of this site but people who disagree with me are /b/tards
Retard, please go.

>>586397
see>>586371

>>586409
No you have no understanding of how this site works. /v/ is for discussing video games, /tv/ is for discussing television and film. These are hobby boards, not politics boards. By your logic I should start posting off topic anime threads on /pol/

>>586414
No, you're an idiot intentionally misinterpreting what is being said so you can push your retarded strict rules shit. There is nothing wrong with off-topic posting as well as long as its something that comes organically. If a thread about something becomes something else, who the fuck cares? That is how the site works. In-fact if someone makes a thread on the wrong board and it isn't something negative or regular, who the fuck cares?

The rules have N E V E R EVER been something strict or serious. They have always been mostly guidelines at best. You are the one who has no understanding for thinking this is a serious image board, thinking its a traditional board and that boards are containment, separated and that there topic only belongs in there. You can bitch about '/b/ shit' all you want, but it won't change the fact the website has lived and breathed in the culture on every board since day one. This is meant to be a fun site, not a serious one.

>>586414
>By your logic I should start posting off topic anime threads on /pol/
I missed this part, but people do this all the time, from my knowledge. People do manga threads as well. Guess what? No one fucking cares and they make these threads on-topic and talk about it instead of bitching about how 'its shitposting' or 'offtopic'. Those threads the few times I've been linked to them have also been better than 95% of the fucking board.

>>586418
>here is nothing wrong with off-topic posting as well as long as its something that comes organically

This is the problem right here, you don't get to decide how the site works, there are rules and you follow them if you don't like them you can fuck off. That's how 99% of other forums work except this one because the mods and hiro simply don't give a shit and they refuse to ban retards like you.

>>585310
Honestly, you're the only one that can do anything with this site and while I am not sure what your goals are it seems like the older the user is on 4chan, the more are they dissatisfied with the current state of the site.

Moot's wishes seemed for the site to come back to its roots and it seems to me that the site's shifting more and more from where it came from and only radical change can shift this outcome.

While the ways of changing the site are numberous, the common complain seems to be the sheer amount of people who don't understand, nor bother to understand the site before they post/contribute.

But in the end, I don't think you don't personally want to bother with changing this site, since it's just too much job to handle with little to no interest for you personally, which is find and I wouldn't criticize you for it, so I'd suggest you to hire people who actually do care and give them some power to change things around. That would probably be hard decision to make and could backfire easily, but that's probably the only way I can see anything changing in the end to the way Moot wanted.

Actually, I know hiro won't read this, but I still cling to the change of people like me being heard eventually.

>>583098
We need to go to 420chan.

Kirtaner is an asshole, but he does care about the quality of posts on his boards, and his team has a fair hand when it comes to entertaining shitposts or off-topic threads. The only real issue with that site is Spardot.

>>583247
There's no magic to making 4chan better.

Threads are deleted all the time which are on-topic and active to the board they are posted in.

Why are they deleted? Because

1. Moderators literally don't know a fucking thing about the topics they're moderating.
2. If they do know about it they show a strong bias and delete threads about topics they simply do not like.

Moderators are supposed to unbiased. Balanced. The goal of the moderator is to keep the discussion going without becoming repetitive or going too far off topic. Inflammatory comments, misinformation, and "shitposting" are to be removed. Controversial opinions or unpopular content are not.

The mod team on 4chan is doing the opposite of this.

>>586875
Also I will add that moderators should show lenience depending on the situation for a board. As a moderator you are there every day and you should see where the discussion is going and about what topics.

Tuesday afternoon and only the Game of Thrones general on /tv/ is getting more than a 1 post a minute? Maybe you should let that thread about Chloe Bennet's "career" go as long as people are posting in it. Posts = what keeps 4chan alive.

/trash/ actually being put to use would make a world of difference. Instead of the shitposters starting yet another thread than can keep the circlejerk going over there.

>>586869
Kirtaner pls go and stay go.

>>585320
Why does Keksandra have big tits? :^?

>>585473
>Redwood, an SJW black mod who hates /pol/ and bans anybody on /co/ if they disagree with him
Ban
>Troid, an autistic hipster brony who doesn't watch anime but mods /a/ with a yuriboner
Ban
>Invisibro, one of moot's friends who likes to fuck around and play with /tv/ and /s4s/ but at least can show himself
He's fine, he's like the only, if even a little bit, fun mod left

>>586608
No, YOU are the one who doesn't get to decide how the site works. Those rules are guidelines and that is how it always been. If you want strict rules, YOU CAN FUCK OFF. You are the one demanding the site do something it has never done. How every other forum runs is irrelevant as we aren't them. We don't run like them because this is how we have been since day fucking one and every board is its own '/b/'.

The one who needs to fuck off is you, not the people who have been using the site the same way for the past decade+. Stupid rulefags like you are mostly a new thing.

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>>583098
>god awful moderation from people who not only are power hungry assholes
The thing is, the way the janitor system works, they're exactly the type of people who are going to become one. The normal anon isn't going to apply to become a janitor on 4chan for free, we use this place for fun, but not to monitor it or be alerted of posts to delete.

Janitors are like evolved tripfags, they get their sense of importance and attention by becoming a janitor and then doing what they see fit, no matter how retarded it is. You can't do anything about it either except maybe complain and potentially get banned as a result, which is only going to blow up their egos. They don't give a shit you don't like their moderation because, quite frankly, they don't have to. After all, they hold an "important" position on the big bad evil 4chan now. Why should anons opinion matter?

>>586608
>>586941
rulefags are literally cancer and they seem to be appearing in droves now. They're ruining this site and draining it of anything remotely fun.

>>586608
Just fuck off to wherever you came from.

>>585310
Can we undo global rule 15 already? No one cares anymore beside that one ban-evading faggot.

>>585239
Hiro please make a separate board for professional wrestling. It's completely fucked up /asp/. 90% of the threads on that board are wrestling, most shitposting. /asp/ies and wresslefags would appreciate a separate board for wrestling.

>>587011
Just force it back into /sp/ or put it into /tv/ where it belongs. It doesn't need its own board.

>>587013
Nobody wants the wresslers. They shit up every board they touch.

Even so, these boards are faster so the shitposting would wash away more quickly.

>>585310
You ruined /asp/
Fix it.

>>585310
And he still hasn't come back

>>585310
>To maintain boards are first mission for me right now..
Then fix /tv/
Right now its full of cuck, big black donger, gore and child porn spam and your boy is just shitposting
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/username/swaglord/

It happens at the same time every night and has been for the past year yet he ignores it

>>586980

Fuck off, mong-molester.

>>587086
Seriously this Hiro. If maintain the boards is your biggest goal, than fucking fix /tv/

>>587086
>>>/tv/71861131
We're going to have our own "gamergate" now from the looks of it
Will you step in or just keep ignoring it?

>>585239
Moderation on /i/ against thread killing or any old threads.
Ban rollposters.
Vertical spamming.

>>586948
>strawmen and false dichitomy

>>587014
>shitposting
The generals in /sp/ kept all the autism in that thread only, and when a PPV or Raw gamethread began. Wrestling related shit never seeped into any other thread in /sp/ that wasn't /wwe/. By putting /wwe/ in /asp/ you fags released everything from Pandora's box out into the world. You also created a shitposter that has ruined /int/, /tv/, /vp/, and /asp/ in the process.

>>585239
everyone agrees the moderation is dog shit, do something about it

>>587229
You're supposed to think the moderation is dogshit. That means mods are doing their jobs properly. If you thought mods were good people who did things right then it would mean something was wrong somewhere.

hire, you could start by having mods actually enforcing the rules that already exist

>>585310
Are you still doing the "pretending to not know English" shit? Are people still falling for it?
Datamining cunt.

>>586875
>Moderators are supposed to unbiased. Balanced.

Where the hell did you get that idea? 4chan was founded by a 15-16 year old boy who hated furries. That is our legacy.

>>586948
I think rulebreakers are cancer.

I define cancer as "Bad behavior that spreads if you don't put a stop to it early."

Please back up your statement, refuting mine if you need to.

>>585239
Get rid of swaglord
Hes letting redditors raid /tv/ now too for their memegate shit again
>>>/tv/71873319

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>>583272
If you think 8ch doesn't have its own problems, you're a shill.

The massive number of boards on that site causes the userbase to be heavily fragmented, and because whoever is the first to create a board is the first to get to moderate it, you instantly have a bunch of unaccountable mods running a hundred different boards. Some of these mods are good, some are bad.

A board is really only as good as its userbase and moderation staff allow it to be. We can't pick the userbase, but we can pick moderation staff on 4chan. On 8ch, you get to pick neither.

The solution is for moderators to be more accountable and probably to be board specific. Swaglord is a great fit for /s4s/, and probably /b/ as well, but should Swaglord be able to wave his moderator dick to shitpost on /pol/ with meaningless comments in the largest font? No. He contributes nothing, he says nothing funny most times he shitposts on /pol/, and really all he does is create attention for himself.

I don't think we should have moderator elections or anything like that. But there should be a system to tell which moderators are doing good both as mods and as posters - and to give them more responsibilities - while moderators who do not fit the culture of a given board should be restricted from moderating there unless there are emergency circumstances. And during those circumstances, there should be a system of accountability.

In the past few years, the moderators have really started to run the show. And this happened even before mootles left, and under Hiro it has simply continued. I don't mind this system, after all one Admin can't run everything and if Hiro doesn't want to why force him, but in such a system we need mechanisms of measuring good and bad moderation. Hiro needs to act like a boss, and let people know what steps he takes to make 4chan's staff better. Not name names, but just talk to us. Announce things.

>>583843
The entire reddit system is fundamentally broken because it gives an inherent bias towards things that receive lots of upvotes. It completely shuts down dissenting opinion by preventing anyone from seeing it.

>>583295
>genetic fallacy

Sorry man, but that's not an argument. That's like goobergators saying a news source is invalid because they don't like it :^)

>>587428
It begins swaglord!!
>>>/tv/71877472

>>587457
Would be nice if Hiro fucking came back in here, but once again he bails.

I'm really getting fed up with him doing this shit

>>587501
>>587428
Even /tv/ is telling them to fuck off. However this could very well be the moment where /tv/'s moderation goes full on strict

swaglord fucking hated gamergate and everything it stood for

>>587603
Lets be real its /tv/
The board where cuck spam happens every night at the same time for the past 2 years and nothings been done about it
they will let it happen

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>>587629
Here we go swagboy

Thanks for opening up /film/ early too because it made you insecure

>>587638
Literally why does anyone give a fuck about all of this dumbass shit

>>587641
I looked at her tweetonet account and shes from one of those eceleb groups that gets spammed all the time on /tv/
which now also confirms that its actual shilling

>>587408
moot was always fair in the broader sense.

>>586944
>the way the janitor system works, they're exactly the type of people who are going to become one

Yeah, it'd be a lot better if, instead of having people apply for janni, mods were the ones in charge of offering posters who write particularly reasonable comments the possibility to become a janni, with something like a 4chan pass as reward for as long as they do a good job.

This would not only force mods to keep an eye on jannis to see if they made a good choice, but would also give normal anons a small reason for wanting to become a janni, improve the general quality of their posts if they wanted to be chosen, and at least trying to do a decent job to keep their janni rights.

>>587694
>offering posters who write particularly reasonable comments the possibility to become a janni
That would mean either choosing a janitor based on a single post or only choosing noteworthy tripfags, neither of which are good optiona

>>587694
This has happened at least one time that we know of, and it gave us the worst fucking janitor of all time.

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>>587601
Hiro bought 4chan as some sort of strange business venture. Or perhaps it was as a hobby.

Either way, I don't think Hiro actually does as much Admin work as moot did. And I'm not surprised if that were the case, nor do I think Hiro is obligated to be as involved as moot was.

But overall, there is a major communication issue between 4chan's staff and its userbase. Not just in Anons bitching about something and Admins ignoring them, but in general.

I'm noticing less news, less updates on the twitter when there's downtime, less information in general. Not all news has to be good news or even bad news. There just needs to be a sense of communication and leadership, like someone is at the helm. If Hiro doesn't think his engrish is up to it, that's understandable. So someone should do it in his stead.

I'd like to see at least a 'status of 4chan' or 'here's what's happening on our end of things' blog that's updated AT LEAST four times a year. How are 4chan's servers doing? How are our finances? Is this site sustainable, are old mods leaving and are new ones being trained to replace them? Things like that.

Momentary news like "/qst/ is our new board. Visit there" or 'THAT MOD YOU HATE GOT FIRED' is not what I really desire, but just a more basic and reliable flow of information.

Because for all we know, Hiro actually posts a lot and is responsible for all of the Jap posts on /pol/ and /int/. But we won't know whether mods post, or what their thoughts on matters are, because everyone except Swaglord does it anonymously unless there's an issue. Which there rarely is.

I think if 4chan had a simple 'from the staff' blog that was fair, honest, but authoritative; 40% of our disagreements with the staff would be solved. Communication is key. You cannot have a stable system without it.

>>587100
Fuck off Barneyfag, it's been 6 fucking years, give it a rest already.

Guys, can't we just start a /qa/ army? An army like ours could change 4chan in hours.

>>585239
Fire the faggots deleting Chris Chan threads on /v/. Heavier moderation on console war shitposting.

>>587764
>/qa/
>change anything
Pick one

>>587760
But its a known fact by now that the mods hate being transparent. In fact in the IRC leaks Troid, aka hipster faggot brony mod, admitted he despises transparency and is vehemently against it

>>587086
>>587086
>>587086
>board is full of /v/ gamergate2.0, animal gore, cuck spam and calls to dox
>the mod/janitor is busy making sure people don't have actress threads because waifu posting might scare away ad revenue
Haha
heres hoping you have the same fate as moot my man

>>587769
We are an army. We have the ability to march into this war and take back what's ours. I will be the commander who leads /qa/ to victory.

>>587771
You think some of the mods were badgering moot towards the end to give the site to them? I know RapeApe was second in command on 4chan, and that he was responsible for the mass deletion of GamerGate on /v/. Would not be shocked if he was vying to take full control of the site

Just tweet at Hiro non stop right now. Tell him to get his ass back in here and explain what he plans on doing about the boards he wants to "maintain"

>>587771
It's bullshit. I just wanna post about fucking Rebel Wilson.

>>587770
Transparency doesn't even enter into it. This is a basic public relations issue. Misinformation is everywhere, spread by malcontents and shills for other sites, and it's given a sense of validity from the silence of the moderation. The reality is, most of the moderators spend their day as a Qwik-E-Mart cashier or stoned browsing 4chan and periodically using their banhammer.

It is unlikely there is some grand conspiracy among moderators, because honestly nothing has really changed besides the actions of our userbase. When /qst/ got added, there was no heavy handed attempt by mods to purge /tg/. Instead, anons who tried to do that were banned. And /pol/ - whatever you think of it and whatever problems it has - has perhaps eclipsed old /b/ in terms of influence in outside matters, and the mods have done nothing about it. If anything, swaglord uses /pol/ as his personal reality show.

There are bad actors among 4chan's staff, but those individuals should be dealt with internally. No amount of asking for Swaglord to be fired is going to get him fired. If he gets fired, it'll because he fucked up in ways we'll never hear about.

Instead, the staff needs to establish communications with its userbase; and become more introspective. We as anons don't need to know names, as we're not in a position to put pressure on any staff. However, the staff can put pressure on each other, and Hiro can put pressure on everyone. That will bring about real change.

But for now, we as a community need to feel like we're being led. Like issues are being resolved, recurrent threads on /qa/ are being told to stop bothering, and the site is going to continue. Or if the site is doing poorly, what is being done to fix it.

Not all of it has to be true, or even very detailed. But a flow of information will establish trust, and bring us out of the uncertainty in leadership that followed moot's departure.

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>>587797
>Rebel Wilson

>>587800
Low test

>>587798
I want that, believe me I do. But those IRC logs proved without a doubt just how the mods really feel about us. Just go digging around for them, they're widely available at a "certain" chan site

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>>587806
>he actually thinks the IRC logs were real

>>>/8gag/

How many mods does 4chan actually have?
Also, if they are inactive for a long time are they demodded or are there just a bunch of dead mod accounts?

>>587809
I do
I only read the first one and it literally has shit about /tv/ that you could only know if you actively browsed it in 2011

>>587678
Moot was fair because you agreed with him. He was unfair as hell if you didn't agree with him. There is no balance. This is true of every website ever, and it's because of our pitiful self centered hypocritical human sense of fairness. "Fair" doesn't exist. Moderators are only there to level a playing field and make it less fair for everybody in exchange for the comfort of some.

>>587811
Not to mention it had the actual moderation names. Plus who would fake 2+ years of logs anyway?

>>587832
>who would fake years of logs
think about where you are right now and then ask yourself that question again

>>587847
this

>>587779
Whats the point when while hes here the mods pretend they're alway looking after the boards?

It happens every time on /tv/ and is a good indication when hiro is actually browsing the site

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can we at least get an option to report all selected posts? its getting tiresome to come home from work and having to report 200 posts desperately out of a 700 post thread because hte mods are fucking worthless and have to actually have their fucking hands held in order to actually do their fucking jobs

god the moderation on this site is so fucking shit, i have literally never been to a site that did a worse job than current 4chan

>>587875
separately*

holy shit i cant even type correctly after doing 90% of the mods job for them for the last hour

>>587875
So what I'm getting out of your post is that you like being angry and purposely subject yourself to things you hate so that you can feel more anger. Got you, Skipper. I'll be sure to ratchet up the obnoxiousness to accomodate your strange affliction

>>583247
This was not written by moot.

Moot was a lot of things, but he wasn't nasty.

>>587882
no i like being able to have a discussion wihtout having to weed through 400 posts of shit posting avatarfagging ERPing retards on boards that are specifically for discussing a certain topic

if you want rampant shit posting go to fucking /b/ where you belong

>>587887
Do you have anything to back up this statement that moot didn't write it?

>>587798
>And /pol/ - whatever you think of it and whatever problems it has - has perhaps eclipsed old /b/ in terms of influence in outside matters, and the mods have done nothing about it
Leave my /pol/ alone

>>587907
Have you seen any of moots other posts? Or read his blog?

I have a hard time seeing it as the same person who wrote that.

I'm open to being corrected on this with additional proof other than a single screencap; but it seems out of character

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>>587916
>>587907
For example, moots comment regarding GamerGate.

Or maybe I'm just a schmuck who fell for an act.

>>587919
It was a totally different story in the leaked IRC logs. He was going off on a massive rant, whining and complaining about he didn't want to have any more unnecessary attention to 4chan. Any mod that disagreed with him, which there were a few, ended up getting demoted because moot couldn't stand criticism.

Mind you this was around the same time The Fappening happened, so moot was already stressed out as it was

>>587981
>>587919
Really in the end, it was due to a combination of

1. moot simply wanted to move on with his life. He started losing interest in 4chan somewhere around 2008-2009

2. The Fappening had severely stressed him out, since the FBI was literally breathing down his neck over it.

3. GamerGate added even more stress to him. This could possibly be due to the fact that his then girlfriend at the time was working for Gawker. It was also a known fact that he was friendly with Anita and Zoe Quinn, and that may have had a role to play in all of this

4. He was pissed no one would buy 4chan

>>587983
also

5. /pol/ found out all his dirty secrets regarding his girlfriend, proving that she was cheating on him and that apparently he knew about it but did nothing. /pol/ harbor then happened, mostly in response to what /pol/ did

>>587981
>>587983
>>587985
I thought the IRC logs were fake? I remember reading one back during the GamerGate scandal and remember it being obviously a fake.

Fair enough on the other points though, it's a shame he had feelings for a Gawkerite to the point where it infringed on his 4chan philosophies.

>>587991
He was probably so madly in love with her she convinced him to do whatever she wanted. And then she goes and cheats on him.

Apparently she was only dating moot so she could get a promotion

>>587994
Ironic that he was suppressing GamerGate yet he was getting personally GamerGate'd himself by a promotion seeking harlot.

>>587919
Written how many years appart, Anon?

>>587991
>Fair enough on the other points though, it's a shame he had feelings for a Gawkerite to the point where it infringed on his 4chan philosophies.
If he had any real 4chan philosophy he would have left /r9k/ and /new/ dead instead of letting some bitch talk him into reinstating the boards.

Everything wrong about 4chan can be traced back to when moot decided that 4chan should start becoming a professionally run anonymous discussion site instead of a mootocracy for nerds.

>>588002
This. And when moot sold the site to Hiro he flat out admitted he made a massive mistake doing this

>>587991
You're dealing with 8gag conspiracy theorists, anon.
These are the same people that believe in that shitty "Project Normalize" screenshot that reddit and tumblr is running against 4chan at this very moment.
They saw /pol/ harbor as proof that moot was a cuck cuck gawker megacuck that wanted to censor freedom of speech and destroy the US constitution and not that /pol/ was full of off-topic garbage and needed a purge.
Hmm, /pol/ being full of off-topic garbage. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

>>587817
>Moot was fair because you agreed with him. He was unfair as hell if you didn't agree with him.

Don't tell me what I thought.

>>588113
Did furries think he was fair? Were you a furry?

>>588007
Explain >>587832

>>588007
>conspiracy theorist
That's you unless you think the logs were written by one person.

>>588130
The IRC logs that come out of the big zip file are real. Half of the shit people claim about them aren't. These days I don't even bother correcting most people because you get people claiming that janitors can't delete posts. What's even the point of talking to these people?

8gag isn't any more clever as a term than plebbit is, but most insults aren't. Calling someone a nigger isn't the exactly pinnacle of wit but people do it anyway.

>>588132
This.

The logs are real but people say that shit is in them that isn't in them.

>>587887
>he wasn't nasty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgOwfXW2eao

Please ban the furfag tranny that moderates /vg/ and /v/. He's been known to over moderate Star Citizen threads. Those are the only threads were moderator response is lightning fast every time someone shitposts his furfag guild, the Vederation.

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>>588007
The IRC logs were real but I didn't see anything particularly incriminating in them.

It's like a North Korea type thing the mods have built up on 4chan, I post that moot didn't like anime and /a/ users sperg about me insulting the glorious leader with enemy propaganda.

moot didn't like anime, most people don't like anime, you guys are really this precious?

>>588222
And who would that be?

So yeah Hiro, you say you want to maintain boards right? So why is there a rouge janitor in /jp/ right now? And why is a mod defending him and letting him get away with shit?

>>588236
>The IRC logs were real
Proof?

>>588494
Does that impact ad revenue?

>>583098
Look. Japchinks are traditionalists, and here's the thing:

You might not *like* 4chan anymore, but it's not broken to the point that wild interventions to fix it are needed. Certain boards suck, sure-- But that requires a subtle hand, not "significant changes."

What the FUCK did you expect JapMoot to be? Do you completely misunderstand the culture of Japan, the combined cultures of the west, and the internet culture of 4chan?

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>>585614

>>588496
>It's a "rapeape/troid/redwood/swaglord pretends the IRC logs were faked and not publicly accessible to push a damage control narrative" episode

>>587847

>>588545
>It's a conspiracy theorist tries to push his agenda despite a lack of evidence

Produce the logs, faggot, and make sure they matter more than the fakery I did when I was young and wanted fileserves, and make it matter more than a Robbie Williams lyric.

>I'm not a robot
The cunt accepted that with one click. How many did it take for you?

>>588596
Except here's the problem. As soon as you post them the mods quickly delete them and ban you. Its readily available. Encyclopedia Dramatica has them up

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>>583098
>we are sick
>we

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>he actually thinks Hiro cares about this place

Literally all he does is datamine off of your stupid asses while adding boards that are 50/50 pointless or ded

And you fucks still believe he's going to do anything when he makes obscure posts claiming he's doing something or asks what to fix

This thread basically confirms that hiro doesn't give a shit.
He posted 6 hours ago, said he had a hangover and then left.

>>589081
That's the sad thing. That's why I'm getting of Hiro's bullshit. He comes in here, says he wants to maintain the boards, and then fucking bails without giving us the chance to shoot him ideas.

So, does that mod named Troid with the real name of Zack get regularly doxxed?

>>589725
I like to think so? But it seems like he or his mod friends try to delete his dox whenever it gets posted on here.

I want to find out if Zack went to a brony convention this year

Have you wondered why people have left 4chan to go to 8ch?

Take a wild guess: The fucking mods who aren't doing their jobs

>>587776
>>587764
>implying we'll ever be able to agree on anything

>>585239
>If you have ideas which everyone agree with,
>I would implement.
pretty much everyone agrees /asp/ is worse since you put pro wrestling there.

i give you 3 solutions:
1.ban pro wrestling from 4chan entirely
2.make a pro wrestling board
3. let pro wrestling be posted on /tv/, /sp/,/thrash/, /b/ and /asp/ so less wresslefags post on /asp/

>>590635
Solution 3 is shit, nobody wants that shit on their board. 2 is the best

>>590638
agreed, im just saying there are multiple options and that its ridiculous that nothing has been done yet

>>590427
There's still too many terrible posters on 4chan to have made any noticeable difference.

He's still not back

>>588870
Actually, I was going to ask something similar, if those logs are faked, why are people banned for posting quotes from them? If I write...
><Redwood> I'm gay
That's a ban worthy offense?

Are Japanese anonymous message boards also as bad as 4chan? If not, why not search there for answers? Moots original goal for 4chan was basically a copy of Japanese message board for the western audience, wasn't it? Also Hiroyuki created 2channel himself, he must have some idea. Or is it that the community associated with 4chan that is beyond repair?

>>591134
4chan isn't other websites, especially 2ch. It should NOT be treated as it is.

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>>585310
Fix /tv/
There are genuine shills on there doing it for free for ecelebs and the mods won't do a thing about it. Picture related is one of them

This is money you could get from ads, but they're letting them spam it for free

>>591077
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

>>585239
People begged you to fix /d/ for months. /asp/ has been begging for wrestling to get kicked off their board.

People are agreeing on shit, so why is nothing changing?

>>583098
You're right. Most things got way worse, especially in regards to a lack of mod oversight. Many boards, particularly /co/ have mods with blatant political slants that use their positions to enforce their ideas. The captchas are still just as bad, many boards got eviscerated or have significant issues, and reccomended changes are always half followed through.

Look at /sp/ and wrestling- wrestling being kicked off /sp/ was a boon to the board, but killed /asp/. A /qst/ was finally created to get Quests off of /tg/, yet Quests are still allowed on both boards.

These sorts of half measures and feet dragging show that this site has been left to rot. What Hiro should do is rotate through each board and ask the users what changes THEY want, then go from there. This site needs more active maintenance and communication if it's going to stay alive.

>>592319
>What Hiro should do is rotate through each board and ask the users what changes THEY want
Depends on the board. He tried it with /v/, and he drowned in their shit.

>>592320
Well that's going to happen. As admin it's his job to filter through it.

>>592319
>yet Quests are still allowed on both boards.
The notion that something only belongs on a single board is retarded and something only believed by new users.

>>592752
So you support generals and Pokemon Go threads on /v/?

>>585310
Bring back public bans. Make an example of people again.

>but it'll lead to tons of unnecessary replies

and all the bait and "Post X or else Y will happen" posts don't?

>>592320
If anything he learned that /v/ is too fast for its own good right now

>>587457
>but we can pick moderation staff on 4chan

No we can't

>>592320
To be completely fair, /v/ is not the kind of place you should trust much user input. In fact, most user input on 4chan should be ignored, and the rest should be heavily questioned.

Where is Hiro?

>>593519
In Japan

>almost one year
nigga do u even math

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>4chan is about fun stuff like memes,banter and /pol/ shitposting
>I don't want to get involved or learn more about the hobby or topic of conversation the board is about.
>I want to permanently post pepe images, green text and insult other people

>>583186
holy fuck you fucking autist stop bringing this up in every thread

OH NO LOOK A REAL IRC LOG
http://pastebin.com/LHxD8ii0

>>593579
Nice try Troid

>>593580
lol exactly what i was saying

>>593227
Generals are cancer and don't belong anywhere on 4chan and there is no reason go threads can't go on fucking /v/. 4chan isn't a traditional forum. Shit can go on multiple boards and at the end of the day, every topic can be discussed on every board. Your shitty garbage bait example isn't going to change the fact boards aren't containment and shit isn't restricted.

>>583098
Recently it felt like /a/ get a huge influx of mods who finally decided to get of their ass and do there job. It happened right after I read guy post about to Hiro >>539623, I don't know if it's just coincidence, but thread moderation seemed to be a lot tighter and a lot of shit posts getting deleted, /a/ was gloriously good in June, it's shit again now but still a lot of deletes though which is way fucking better than before

>>593249
Hiro can hire or fire them. That's what I meant.

>>593239
Public bans just encourage mod dickwaving and cocksucking. We don't want to end up like Something Awful.

We need less and smarter moderation, not more.

>>583295
>>593579
Always funny when a mod cocksucker tries to pretend the logs aren't real

>>593640
t. newfag trying too hard to fit in

>>593952
every time this happens someone says its the mods

lmao

>>593956
Actually I said it was someone happily sucking mod cock.

>>593726
Yeah jan/mods on /a/ have been more active with deletions now and they're getting rid of any retarded shitposting which I'm happy about.
They're still slow as always though but at least they're clamping down on it. Last season was actually pretty good thread and moderation wise I think.

After the /q/shit though I really hope hiro doesn't use a general meta board and actually goes to specific boards to ask for their opinion.

>>593954
Says the faggot using t.

>>583098
>If you take a look at boards like /int/ and /tv/, you will some of the worst moderation on this entire site.
It seems like every time rules get enforced people lose their shit because shitposting is "culture". It happened and continues to happen on /v/, and it looks like it's happening on /int/ now:
>>576899
>>589807
>>593494
>>591432
>>591932

People think /int/ is /b/ with flags, /v/ is /b/ with video games, and so on. Once a board gets so many posts a minute it's going to be shit, and people get bent the fuck out of shape when other posters complain about it.

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>>585310
Why did you move wrestling to /asp/? It was one of my favorite boards, and now it's ruin

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>>585252
it helps

>>594596
That first one is a valid complaint, though. The dumb autist deleting anime pictures should fuck off. Anime is allowed globally and it IS 4chan culture. Posting anime images will never be off-topic.

>>594717
I think pictures lacking any text or obvious relation to the topic should be deleted, but it seems like the issue there is that anything with an anime picture is being deleted. That discussion spans multiple threads now so I don't want to dig any deeper into it.

>>594717
except that's wrong. dipshit. everytime an anime poster posts something on /pol/ it completely derails the topic. moreso on /pol/ but I see it on other boards too.

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>>594766
Guess what then anon, people posting anime don't get banned, the fucking idiots bitching do. Simple as that, you have your priorities wrong. This is a objective fact, anime image posting is 4chan culture. If someone is upset someone is posting an anime image, they don't belong here. Also, learn what a fucking comma is.

>>594759
>I think pictures lacking any text or obvious relation to the topic should be deleted
No. Posts and images should never actually have to do with the 'topic'. Posts should not be valued by how well they contribute or how well their relation with the topic is.

>>594786
>Posts and images should never actually have to do with the 'topic'
That's dumb. You're dumb. I feel dumber having read that post.

>>594804
That's because you're an idiot.

>>594717
Anime is off topic on every board but /a/, /m/, and the weeb porn boards.

Fuck off.

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>>595242
the problem is you fags don't have the vaugest idea what's anime and what's just a picture, and now we have mods deleting whatever the fuck they want because it's not western enough for them

>>595294
Anime is shit.

>>595242
Sadly for you, you're wrong. Also, acting like off topic is bad makes you look like a retard.

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>>595300
>00