average potsmoker's argument

>>139622503
this thread really needed to be made and is important politics, especially the anime girl spilling spaghetti

thank you for your contribution

>>139622503
Lol it's not addicting
Prove to us it is. Haven't smoked yet today but am still craving cigarettes that I quit two mkonths ago.

BTFO

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>>139622503
>spaghanime girl is facing to the right
Fake news!

It's just a crutch. Breathing smoke in your lungs is bad, but these hippy dopers ruin it for everyone with their lifestyle "this is healthy" bullshit. Why can't people indulge in their vices with moderation? I think the plant is a good smoke and should be legal but it's clearly bad for you.

>>139622784
>Haven't smoked yet today

when "I haven't smoked... today... yet" is an accomplishment, you're at least moderately addicted psychologically. It's not a problem until you allow it to become one though, so who cares? smoke all you want, it's your life, don't let anyone else tell you how to live it (within reasonable bounds)

>>139622503
Should have a ban alcohol because of alcoholics then too?

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>>139622784
this is your mind on drugs. Every action you do is driven by one desire, and that is obtaining your fix at all costs.

You'll vote for a retard as long as he promises your drugs. You are little cats on a string, prancing about on his orders like a puppet.

>>139623051
>it's clearly bad for you.

Of course it is, everything is going to have negative aspects to it. It doesn't matter who you are or what you think, but if you sincerely believe ANYTHING on this planet is purely 100% "good" for you, you're deluded. Be it weed, celery, the air we breathe, etc.
EVERYTHING is going to have at least one element to it that is negative in some way, regardless of how negligible it may be

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>>139622503
Sorry I work 60 hours+ a week and have to be on call from 5:00 to 8:30am the next morning. Sorry I like to catch a little buzz when I get home, and I can't drink because I'm still technically at work.
Fuck off your high horse, some of us just don't give a fuck.

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>>139623315
>has a busy schedule and is on call
>literally can't resist the temptation of his illegal drugs until the weekend.

>>139622503
Just ripped a phat cone like 2 minutes ago. Totally chill brah I could bash you in a fight for real. Anime is for chubby nerds lol. BTFO. Everyone smoke weed blaze it. BLAZE IT.

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>>139623129
>muh muh alcohol muh alcohol muh muh alcohol muh alcohol muh alcohol muh muh muh alcohol

wow, impressive. hey guys i should be allowed to rape people because we don't ban sex

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>>139622503
I consider myself a conservative but I hate people like OP.
>I want small government until I don't!
You either do or do not believe in limited government. Why do you care if someone smokes a joint in their living room?
>government spending is out of control!
How about we reduce government spending by not locking up potheads? Fucking nanny state cucks.

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>>139623586
Not an Argument.

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>>139622503
It's not about the dangers of this plant but the very fact that people use it and 60 wasted years of war on drugs didn't change that.
The real question is:
Would you rather want to control something or pretend it's not happening at all?

Was a stoner from ages 14-18, it's definitely addictive for some (maybe most) people. I hate how some people twist the term, whether it's psychological/habitual addiction or physical it doesn't matter. You're dependent on it in some way. I wasted some of my best years getting stoned. School holidays from grades 9 to 12 I would just smoke bowls all day from the moment I woke up. I wouldn't even leave my bed some days.

Then idiots want to compare it with alcohol. Yes alcohol is bad for your body but it never destroyed my motivation like weed. Losers smoke weed.

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>>139623784
oh wow you are a clever girl

everyone look at this guy, he can tell the difference between getting insulted and an argument!

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>>139623586
>spaghanime girl is now facing left and accompanied by token "muh alcohol"

I know when to admit defeat. This is irrefutable evidence and all potheads should be gassed.

>>139623911
>smoke bowls all day from the moment I woke up

every time i smoke before 4PM it's nothing but paranoia and regret. The odds of someone calling me up asking a favor, or stopping by, is too great

7PM is the big golden cutoff point where i can safely blaze and relax and generally not worry about someone depending on me for the rest of the evening

>>139623586
I get sick of this refrain too, but its a fair point that people drink all the time just as a normal part of their life. It doesn't define them. The weed smokers have a tendency to get into the whole blaze It lifestyle which is cancer. Them and hip hop culture have made it to where you can't just enjoy a smoke even where it's legal like you'd just go have a few beers, because it's like a statement on your whole lifestyle. It's a shame because it would be nice if people would just treat it like alcohol, have the occasional smoke, and go on with their life. The whole substance has become trapped in crazy dopers culture, hip hop, and college undergrad lifestyles. Sad because it's actually better than alcohol imo.

I fucking hate myself for smoking desu

>>139624179
I actually convinced myself that I enjoyed it too. I know so many people who don't even like weed but smoke it because they're clinging onto the chance they'll have a good sesh.

>>139622503
I just want it legal to stop people on the dole who are dealing drugs and are taking in £2500 a month excluding their brew, dealing drugs pays more than the average job and if you do it right you don't get caught.

Once it's legal it'll collapse the drug economy around weed, unless they make it more expensive, over here it's £25 for 2 grams, it's a lot of money to be made and if the government charge any higher than 25 people will still use dealers.

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>>139622503
>DIRTY POT SMOKERS REEEEEE. WHY CAN'T I HAVE FUN LIKE THEM?

Not addictive. Sage

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>>139624921
but i can counteract your sage by replying to your post just to spite you

>>139624921
Mate, I can tell you now people who say it's not addictive are lying, it's mind altering, it's addictive. It requires responsible use, like any drug. It's not a rough addiction but it is addictive dependent on the amount you intake per day, and if you go sober you can experience heavy mood swings too

Its just a plant faggot.
Go care about something that actually affects you.
>being this much of a good goy for big pharma

Lol at this guys life

>>139624568
No way! the truth is its easy to grow! Unless the price is cheaper I would just keep buying of my guy. It may work in America where they actually punish weed smokers. But in Britain you would have to be competitive which would just increase the problem. I hope they never legalise weed.

And I sell my 20 bags at 3.2 grams

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>>139624214
This
I like smoking better than drinking, other than this I completely try to adhere to the chad nationalist lifestyle
Just because there's liberal faggots expressing their identity in a teenage rebellious way, doesn't mean I can't unwind from day to day life.
ESPECIALLY when you're confronted with the state of our society every day.

>>139625226
>Heavy mood swings
>Too weak to keep calm regardless how they feel emotionally at the time.
>Not considering that the side effects to one person may not be how others react

Speak for yourself.

>>139625290
Eh debatable, all depends on which political party is in control and if they wish to burn taxpayer money on a war on drugs which is failing, I see more use for legalisation for economical reasons (taxes) than to burn resources on a drug war that we'll never win

Again, all depends on the area and political climate, legalisation is better for economy but is better for general populace happiness and health? That's a question to ask once it's been legal 5 years+

I'd love to do a research paper on the uses of it but again can't do that because if it's not legal you can't study the effects on people

I'd have it be legalised for taxes, cutting out the middle man, and scientific research but im just a faggot posting on /pol/ so my opinion is mute

>it's just a plant
Are your rulers giving it to their children?

>>139622503
pic related

dope fiend going through the carpet trying to find just one more hit, then she'll be good...

>it's not addictive, I can stop any time I want, I just choose to smoke it everyday

it is addictive, not physically like cigarettes, but mentally, it calls you constantly when you're not on it, denial isn't just a river

>>139626501
Agreed

>>139623079
Haven't smoked yesterday either. Not addicting. Like fuck dude. I mainly smoke at night to help me sleep. It's not degenerate at all if used right. You should like some virgin keyboard fag

>>139623258
Some drugs, you shouldnt talk on the subject if you think all drugs have the same effect

>>139622503
Here's an argument:

Eat a pack of cigarettes and you will die.
Drink too much alcohol and you will die.
Mix the wrong pharmaceutical pills and you will die.

Consume as much weed as conceivably possible and you will live (without a hang over) guaranteed.

Chew on real logic for a second.

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>>139626763
lying and distortion and appealing to emotion and false equivalencies and whataboutism

addicts will rely on anything they can to propound propaganda about their deviancy, anything besides attempting reasonable discourse

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>>139627151
until they cut it with something unhealthy and fatal, as with other drugs

>Synthetic cannabinoids are potent drugs capable of causing clinical intoxication and death[11] (probably due to CNS depression and hypothermia) when used. Many compounds have been banned in the U.S. and numerous other countries, although loopholes remain and new examples continue to be encountered on a regular basis.

but go ahead, keep telling everyone there is never any danger in marijuana so they don't even take precautions

>>139627364
>until they smoke it with something else that is a man made synthetic

No shit dumbass. It's called logic.

You're obviously a troll so continue your faggotry but not on this board

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>>139627490
>it's called logic

there are worse things you could do, but the constant bullshit about how smoking it prevents cancer and how it solves every ailment is snake-oil salesman tier.

The fact is that the skunk most people buy black market, has been bred higher in thc and lower in cbd-which is the neuro-protective cannabinoid.

Neuro protective, sounds pretty important to me.

Also it is a drug, and thus changes your brain chemistry, it also lowers your blood sugar, hence the munchies, and because it's a sedative, your brain getting used to it stops producing its own sedative basically, meaning that if you suddenly stop after a few days or weeks of smoking, you'll struggle to get to sleep for hours until the brain balances that out again.

So with the brain chemistry, your brain's always trying to find balance, so when thc starts coming to it, it kind of rebalances, or adjusts to it, and then when you stop after smoking for a while, it has to readjust to balance without the thc.

to all long term users, get off the canni-bus once in a while, for say 1 month, and see the difference in yourself. At the worst think of it as a t-break, but maybe you'll find a better you and stay that way like I did.

t. long time ex user

>>139627151
Wat

>>139627645
Man made synthetics hurt you because synthetic cannabis is an agonist on the cannibanoid receptors. Real cannibanoids enter the neural system as a flood of naturally-occurring cannibanoids. They do not act like agonists but behave normally.

You know your body has cannibanoids in its system right now? You fucking moron.

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I smoked from 13-25, pretty much erry day. Quitting was one of the hardest things I've ever done, did it after realising i'd lost 3 relationships over it, because none of them were aware, which meant I'd always be sober around them, leading me to get irritiated easily and have massive mood swings. I'd smoke so much that my throat would swell up and be in pain, so I'd go out and buy anti-inflammatories just to smoke more, after losing the last relationship and quitting around the same time, the built up depression that resulted from both almost made me end it. It's a fucking terrible drug, you can say I just lack willpower, or am weak. But it did irrepairable damage to me and my mental state and I'm never touching the shit again, I relapsed not long after quitting and had a panic attack. It's not a pleasant experience. All I do now is shrooms once a month and it's fucking magical. Pic related, a graph from the former chief drug adviser of Britain.

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>>139627849
>your body has blood in it, therefore, I am dumping a gallon of pig blood down your throat

>>139627978
Illogical piece of shit troll.

>>139627364
That applies to everything people consume. Water is as safe as things come, but lace it with arsenic or bleach and it'll kill you dead.

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>>139622503

>>139626753
your blatant disregard for the latter half of my post coupled with your defensiveness tells me you do have a problem and you're in denial over it. I feel sorry for you more than anything

>>139628529

>implying victimless crimes are the same as real crimes

>>139622503
you see him as an addict, it's your problem
don't trust yourself

>>139628529
This is the most retarded image I've seen 2017, are people seriously this stupid? What happened to intellectuals?

People are getting more retarded each day, Christ

>>139627912
hey Bruce, you get them online or grow or just pick them?

Quite interested in doing them every now and then too, wondering the best way.

>>139622503

I quit smoking weed, i love it because it makes music,video games, and watching movies more enjoyable. But i found over-time that's all i would ever want to do, and social interaction became increasingly harder for me. I would always get some weird form of paranoia. That being said smoking weed used to relax me when i was angry and it stopped me from doing/saying a lot of things i would have that may have ruined relationships with people. To me, after years of smoking i find weed to be a waste of money.

And to me nofap is impossible while smoking weed, it makes me horny as fuck.

>>139622784
I don't know about you, but if I don't smoke weed for over 16 hours I start getting withdrawal symptoms. I get sweaty as fuck and I can't sleep properly for a couple of days.

Maybe back in the day it wasn't addictive, but this shit is getting more potent each day.

ITT: normiefags who were literally terrified of weed in highschool

>>139628910
>being so new you don't recognize quentin

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You know I just realized...
The UNIX timestamp names for images is now over 1500000000000...

We've come a long way baby.

>>139627912
>>139627912
Weed harmful to others?
Is that because of smuggling etc.?

Weed is weed, its safe and fine. Fucks up some people, and for a lot, it don't.

Go drink ya beers fucktards.

>>139622503
pot smokers should be executed

>>139629430
it only messes up your sleep if you fall asleep well on it, just don't fall asleep well on it

>>139630061
It's the only thing that gets me to sleep. Makes me sleep like a little angel.

I smoke on occasion, that said I tend to hate almost every other smoker, that said I would also probably hate OP, That said OP may or may not be a smoker himself, that said OP is probably one of the degenerate smokers I hate.
>Duuude woah far out mind blown dude we're in for it now Scoob.

weed is a sneaky one, it doesnt appear to be that toxic but the time just flies by when you're high all day. Difficult to achieve a good education or job whilst an addict to it.

>>139630244
i sleep great but it must interfere with my proper deep REM sleep because i don't feel nearly as rested as i should

>>139623745
Second

>>139630061
Nah dude, I smoke like 5 hours before I go to bed. I haven't gone to bed high for years.

It's natural man. It grows out of the Earth.

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>>139622503
same copy pasta

>>139623051
You can vape which makes it healthier, but regardless I'd rather be really stoned than really drunk. Worst thing I'm going to do really stoned is fall asleep

>>139622503
That's because most "potheads" are morons, just like most alcoholics. They lack self control and discipline.

You can enjoy smoking a little pot here and there without being an addict, just like someone can have a few drinks from time to time without becoming an alcoholic.

I think there's a super obvious argument: compare to alcohol. Cannabis, compared to alcohol, is much safer. No one has ever OD'd smoking pot. Smoking pot doesn't cause liver damage and heart disease.

If alcohol is legal there's really no reason for cannabis to be illegal. At all.

Also vaping and edibles are safer alternatives to smoking that even further reduce potential harm.

>>139630382

Weed works for some, for me it just made me even more introverted than i already was. I'm already somewhat anti-social. Weed for me turns social interaction into something i fear and find tedious.

>>139626753
>I mainly smoke at night to help me sleep.
The fact that you don't see this as a problem is what makes it sad.

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>>139629430
You're just a weak minded faggot. I smoke practically every single day because it's better/safer for managing my back pain and migraines than opiods are.

I sometimes decide to take a break for a few days or a week at a time, and I literally don't notice anything different, other than the fact that I'm sober and not high.

>>139627730
I'm gonna take your advice mate, I smoke one every day and lately it just doesn't help me sleep anymore.

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>>139622503
>implying addiction is the fault of anything except for a shit life

>>139631069
That's about how it is for me, Id rather do it alone, but if I did it all the time I'd just be even more of a hermit and never leave the house, though I tend to kindof be one anyways. As much as I like the stuff if you saw me in real life you'd think I was Hank Hill kindof square.

>>139622503
argument for what? You're sounding high desu

>>139622503
Only the weak are controlled by a plant,to me it's no different than coffee,I don't cease to function without it and after half a lifetime of use I don't care if I have it or not,it is nice for sleeping,eating,relaxing but whatever do you

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>>139628529
0/10 bait

>>139630945
long term effect on the brain though, a lot of old burnouts seem to have like totally like lost their like vocabulary skills and memory dude.

I agree though, if you allow alcohol you can't say weed should be banned

>>139631370
Your weed is just shit then.

Also you call me weak minded when you need drugs to feel less pain? I simply meditate the pain away because I'm not a gigantic pussy.

>>139624214
> weed smokers get into this blaze-it lifestyle
neat of americucks to regale us with epic tales from united states of permavirgins, but some people can smoke every day without turning into 20iq amerilard retards

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it's just a plant and as such if/when a happening occurs, I'll have 5lbs stocked while the rest of the world is addicted to (((pain pills))), (((benzos))), etc

>>139631069
yeah that's a point, the individual based effect

people with adhd and anger issues may well be better off on it, to slow them down and allow them more time to think and reduce the emotional response

The US government owns patents on marijuana as a medicine.

https://www.google.com/patents/US6630507

>>139631643
>That's about how it is for me, Id rather do it alone, but if I did it all the time I'd just be even more of a hermit and never leave the house, though I tend to kindof be one anyways. As much as I like the stuff if you saw me in real life you'd think I was Hank Hill kindof square.

I don't even mind being a hermit, i prefer it. But you can't have a life for yourself or progress in a world that requires you to "network" in order to find success for yourself. I'm already at a disadvantage by having social anxiety, why amplify it with weed? I love how weed makes me feel, i love the giant nuts i bust when i jack off, i love the way it makes music sound better. But all of those things don't make me a stronger person, nor do they help me progress into a good career... etc. The paranoia to me is just not worth it, i have to avoid people including my own mother to have a good time on weed.

Why would we need an argument? Its objectively less harmful than many legal drugs, and it does have benfits and negatives. Like any other drug, it can be abused. Most people wont accept this, which is why i dont hang around with other smokers. Stoner culture is cancer.And the fact that most potheads are liberals doesnt make me like them any more.

I broke my jaw when i was 13 after eating shit on my dirt bike, and it's gotten progressively worse.

i dont want pain killers.
weed not only gets me high which curbs my alcoholism, but it relaxes my jaw muscles which often have spasms. it numbs the pain. it helps give me apatite because typically i dont want to eat when it hurts so much

anything wrong with that?

>>139630457
I've noticed that if i smoke a biggie right before bed.
But for as long as i've eaten well and done a lot of physical work and mental work through the day, I'm always rested.

All these mad /pol/fags not high but sippin their bitter beers.

>>139632116
Bro that weed is going to be stale as fuck

>>139632384
You're so paranoid on it because of the stigma attached to smoking it, you feel guilty for feeling good because society says you should. Why you're even around your mother high is beyond me but when I visit her we smoke a blunt and B/S, it's a social thing like beer.

Only degenerates smoke it all day every day, it's meant for after work or if you work construction, during your boring ass day job

Got broken up with and started smoking daily a few years ago. After a solid year of smoking, I ended up moving away from my cushy construction job and had to quit in order to pass a piss test. It's difficult to manage when your serotonin receptors have been overworked for so long that rising out of "robotic" emotional slumps requires drugs.

Equating it to cigarettes or alcohol is kind of goofy, it's a reward reaction that weed evokes. Try equating it to sugar, with the knowledge that humans generally work best on 18-25g of sugar a day. Take a look at that soda, or tea that you're drinking and imagine what your life would be like if you suddenly stopped consuming all processed sugars.

Used to be "nah brah just a plant" but to be honest, it's a crutch and a waste of time, energy, and money.

>>139631906
Yeah, I think anyone who abuses any kind of drug for long periods of time is going to fuck their brain up. Most long term alcoholics I've dealt with are barely functional retards with disgusting beer bellies from their bloated livers and empty calories.

>>139622503

meanwhile, legal prescription drugs killed ~40k people last year

>>139632833
>You're so paranoid on it because of the stigma attached to smoking it, you feel guilty for feeling good because society says you should.

Nah it just makes me think about past regrets or things that i haven't done to improve myself yet. I really don't care about what society think about me smoking weed. Why does "societies" opinion matter about anything?

>>139631401
cool man

you've probably built a tolerance to it so it has no effect

you'll probably find it a bit harder to sleep, but cutting out 1 won't take much time to readjust.

You might feel a bit down for a few days/couple of weeks too, this will pass, it's not how you'll feel off it permanently, your brain will rebalance.

Other typical side effects from quitting heavy use are constipation and reduced appetite, but that shouldn't be a problem for you, at least not for more than a day.

I'd advise to stock up on some chocolate and bananas to make you feel better, and doing some light exercise like a few press ups will give a mental boost too.

And if you don't manage first time don't worry, that's normal, I must have quit 20 or more times before it finally stuck. Just treat it as an experiment that you'll learn more from.

Good luck anon

>>139632718
That's just my stash I have out, friend. That's just a few ounces dumped out on my bed - they're kept in mason jars w/ boveda humidity packs. I have 3 pounds 4ft under buried in my back yard, will hold out a decade at least.

>>139622503
yeah this is such a stupid argument. heroin and crack are just plants too. poisonous scorpions are just bugs.

>>139632018
B-but that's their argument bro.
From what Ive seen, generally once people age out of their teens or still self righteous, holier than thou early college life, regardless if you decide to partake or not, if you just pay attention you start to notice just how many people do it. Despite being largely illegal, half or more of your friends at least tried it, same with your family, and same with co-workers, if it looks like they don't, you are probably seen as a narc or square and they just aren't going to bring it up to you. I had even overheard a former boss talking about his 'tales of smoking' when younger. Not everyone by far is the 'hey hey hey everyday' pot culture scum that everybody hates.

smoke weed everyday

>>139632895
totally

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oh one more thing, a friend who's a Biology student and a clever lad, told me that long term use leads to a lithium deficiency in the brain, which can contribute to depression.

>>139632963
it's a good thing you don't care about societies dictations, anon. It's such a common problem when getting my 'clients' on strong strains (especially sativa for ADHD) is they can suffer that extreme paranoia, doesn't go away for a while typically.

I've had to talk down my friend that he doesn't have cancer after smoking him out my favorite strain because he told me he's been smoking for longer than he actually has

>>139632833
The people vehemently against weed are LARPing, NEET basement dwellers wearing stahlhelms and masturbating to nazi futa. Their opinions are as empty as their futures.

>>139622503
I have smoked weed pretty much every day for the last 16 years.
I have a family, 86k yr job, a house, and 2 cars.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with marijuana. Especially when compared with alcohol, which is legal and kills 99.999% more than weed.
Get your head out of your ads.
It is just a fucking plant.
Take some mushrooms while your at it and squeegee your third eye faggot

>>139622503
Well now we know another thing about /pol/; they're all a bunch of loser potheads

>>139631979
I live in a medical state and get some of the best weed in America, thx. I do tend to chose CBD heavy strains over THC heavy strains, though, as they provide more medical benefits with less of a "high" feeling. Maybe that's why I'm not a total worthless faggot who can't sleep after he quits smoking pot.

I can't simply will pain away, so I guess I'm weak minded too. But not so weak minded that I lose sleep after not smoking pot for a day.

Loser.

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>>139622503
Used to be a pot addict, i had to rob and kill people to sustain my pot addiction, it also triggered my desire to rape white women and impregnate them with my spic seed. So if you support drug addiction, you support me raping white women.

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>>139622784

>Smoked for 20 years and thought the same

>Had to rotate strains every day to try to lower tolerance and smoke hash and shatter along with it to even get a mild high.

>Developed cannibinoid hypermesis and hypertension from years of smoking. I would get horrible gastrointestinal problems because I was not smoking.

>Instead of helping problems I was worsening them and masking the real underlying cause.

>Got to the point that I had to smoke to function and subsequently put off important things in life so I could smoke.

>Wasted hundreds of dollars a month to feed a physiological and psychological addiction.

>Tried to quit several times on my own and could not do it anymore because of how advanced it had become.

>Experienced dissociation more and more along with a loss in memory and cognitive function. I would literally not know how I got to places or why I was there.

It's just a harmless plant bro

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>>139633009
you really know your shit

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>>139622503
>they will stop short of nothing to protect their precious addiction.
Yep. Semi-heavy potsmoker and I can agree on that. Most of stoners are intellectually super-lazy and extremely biased towards their precious little plant. They usually are people who abuse other substances as well or they have substitued their previous substance addiction with another. I smoke when I got no responsibilites and I want to draw or play a few games. Substance abusers will abuse a substance, no matter what are available to you.
>BLEIZ IT ERRYDAY :DDD
>420 GANJA TRUTH :DDD

>>139634280
You're just a weak minded faggot with no self control bro

>>139622503
>muh muh plant just a plant just a plant it's just a plant muh plant guys it's just a plant muh plant muh plant

And yet they hate tobacco...

>>139634280
>"i have no self control"
Cool story bro.

>>139633740

I could understand why people would be paranoid if their peers are radically against weed or something. But I really don't think you could you that "society" as a whole has the same opinion on weed. Some people are idiots about using it, some people even still smoke it if it does make them paranoid just to fit in with their peers. Weed makes me thing about the saddest shit and it makes me paranoid about talking to people. That doesn't necessarily mean i'll go on /pol/ and tell people not to smoke it just because It turned into a negative thing for me to smoke.

>>139634579
weed makes me think*

>>139634280
you smoked fucking hash and concentrates on top of the plant matter, you degenerate druggie idiot.

That's like drinking beer and moonshine and complaining you're an alcoholic, sit on a bridge and consider jumping u fgt

>>139623297
>weedsmoker logic

It is a drug and you have no right to tell me I can't use it.

I get on here and I see all the alt right shitposters wanting to infringe on peoples rights, I look at the ANTIFA people and I see them wanting to infringe on peoples rights. If you really have this much time to worry about what other people are doing you prob need to find something to do.

>>139622503
The way I see it. Drugs and alcohol are almost entirely the same thing, except drugs should be taken in smaller doses due to higher potency.
>both impair judgement
>both cause long-term damage to liver and brain
>both are halucinagenic in some cases
>ECT.
Besides, making drugs legal would get rid of a lot of the other crimes that come with drug dealers, such as all the murder over it. When was the last time you saw someone murder for a bottle of champagne?

>>139634280
you did it to yourself? the plant didnt sneak in your room at night and assault you.. Stop being a victim you little bitch

>>139626196
Pro tip- use a lent roller

>>139634463
>>139634577
>>139634659

Hey man it's just a plant bro it's god's gift there's no way it's addictive or has any negative consequences bro.

The hypertension and cannibinoid hypermesis are both the result of simply smoking over a long period of time. I was in the same self control boat as you faggots. But over time you fuck your bodies natural regulation of dopamine and burn out your cannibinoid receptors.

>>139634992

I never said I was a victim, I am pointing out that dope is not risk free in the slightest despite the culture attempting to constantly claim that it is.

>>139623936
Ad hom fallacy. This shit is stickied to the front page of for a reason you know

>>139635067
better pro-tip, use your girls panty hose over the end of a hose sweeper

>>139635166
I've been smoking and growing for 15 years, I go weeks in-between smoking, yet I've never once had negative effects because it's been done in moderation.

yeah, if you smoke it every day for years and use ever increasing potent products, I agree entirely but to say you're destined to ruin your body is entirely going to be on an individual to individual basis and how they consume/abuse the substance

>>139635492
If I was high right now that'd blow my fucking mind

>talking to a friend of mine
>topic of heroin junkies comes up
>friend says he doesnt understand why people put that shit into themselves
>I tell him thats a bit hypocritical since he smokes weed
>he gets extremely defensive and says its not the same thing
>acts awkward the rest of the day

>>139623476
The Streets called- they want their Playstation back

If you can't get high without acting like a faggot you aren't white.

>>139622503
Agreed. Addicts get the rope. Looters, communists, and anyone named muhammad.

I stopped smoking weed while on probation for 18 months. Then I smoked every day for bout a year and now I'm stone cold sober

I just wish video games were more fun sober. Getting high and walking around in Skyrim is just magical as fuck

I can't even be bothered to play anything because deep down I know it's a waste of time

>>139624921
Prove it- stop smoking for 2 months and report back.

Should be no problem. You'll get so stoned when you start again, right?

>>139635895
>how could anyone like getting fucked in the ass?
>well that's hypocritical because you like getting laid

>>139636185
butthurt shit-lung detected

>>139636321
not my fault your logic is retarded mate

>>139636121
truth, in a sense weed helped me not play video games as much because it lets me introspectively see my own degeneracy, it's like anything good in life, needs to be treated like such.

Mary is least evil of any drugs, abuse alcohol like you'd do her and your withdrawals won't be fun. Abuse any hard drug and it's going to be miserable. Pothead tries to quit, he loses some sleep, has nightmares and at worst is a little anxious. Compare that to any other drug's withdrawals, including prescription opiates and that's an epidemic where as this is fuckin kiddie shit

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>>139634280
>im a weak limp risted faggot with shit genetics
>i cant handle drugs in my small malnourished body
>i wasted all of my money on dumb shit because i'm a stupid nigger
>i have no willpower and can't count for my actions
you should kill yourself, or at least not reproduce, your shit genetics don't need to be passed down

t. im smoking weed, faggots come to try and stop me you can eat 5.56

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>>139622503
I want her to spill her spaghetti all over me.

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>>139622503

>massive alcoholism
>massive prescription drug problem
>massive anti-depressant problem

DONT DO WEED KIDS ITS DEGENERATE!

Whenever I talk about pot heads, I always make sure to casually refer to them as addicts. Because when you examine the lives of habitual pot users and compare them to people addicted to other drugs, there's no difference.

They're usually slobs, covered in tattoos and piercings, can't hold jobs, have non-drug related criminal records, etc.. In fact, many pot heads use other drugs in addition to marijuana.

>>139627364
You must be either an adult and have no idea what you're talking about, or you have smoked or known people who do but you're an inexperienced kid. People who whine about weed possibly being laced/cut with anything are retards. It's too expensive for a dealer to buy chinese research chemicals just to lace their already very profitable product. If they wanted to sell that shit, they'd skip using weed and use cheaper herbs like mullen instead. Plus it's in a dealer's best interest to provide good product to keep customers coming back. As soon as one person has a bad reaction or dies, business dries up and people go find someone more professional.

The bigger concern with practical smokers like me is the breeding of cannabis to have insane percentages of THC. I don't want my smoke to be Mexican brick weed, but I also don't want to take a tiny hit and be completely fucked up for half the day. On top of that, I can't imagine consuming that level of THC-A is good for your brain at all, especially if you're still developing. I consider that, and dabs as being major problems in the future of legalization down the road as well as causing severe mental issues in people.

>>139636150
Jokes on you, I'm at a month and a half not touching the stuff with 3 jars full of it put up in the other room.

>>139636993

Weak people are weak... I can find many alcoholics who fit the same description.

>>139622503
Good goy. Don't smoke weed and never grow it for yourself.
Just drink some of this overpaid shitty msas production beer. Here. Good goy

Marijuana does not create dependence. Caffeine, nicotine, alcohol etc. all do. Potheads aren't addicted to it they just use it because they want to. Like taking a hot shower every day.

>>139637520
>I-I-I-I-I-I c-can quit when I want to, really!
Weed addicts are so pathetic.

>>139637205
That's excellent bro, it's truly great having a stash and the self control to go so long without touching it for that long.

Anyone judging smokers are ignorant, it's easy to say it has no medicinal value while 100% they have someone in their close vicinity/family right now addicted to prescription something.

>>139637594
I know you don't know how to argue but you could at least start by admitting that you literally cannot be addicted to marijuana.

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>>139628727
>implying that supplying criminal organizations with money(the literal plague of our society) is somehow "victim less"

>>139627151

>Consume vast amounts of weed cause it's harmless bro

>Fry your bodies ability to regulate dopamine and cannibinoid receptors

>Develop long term health problems and damage cardiovascular system

It's just a plant bro my logic is real I can smoke all the dope I want consequence free.

>>139637832
Whatever, addict. Get help.

>>139637320
This is very true, however weed addicts smell a whole lot worse.

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>>139622503
>this thread again
>with the same image
Get a life you degenerate
You're addicted to 4chan

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>>139637832
Fuck you anon! Addiction is something very hard to define. Almost all the people i know if not all off them continue the circle of realizing all the problems daily use brings and wanting to stop, only to do it the next day as escapism. This in turn creates a negative-feedback loop that feeds the addiction. It applies to anything that makes you feel good really.

>>139637864
Nope, you smoke too much dope and you're gonna be retarded, no one is denying that fact anon. Any smoker that is just adds to your defense.

Smoking is a valid alternative to the jews anti-depressant, pain pill and benzo epidemic. Anyone who says differently is a puppet of the system's schedule labeling system.

Drug wars will never work just like the prohibition of alcohol, either look at it logically as the massive increase in state-state income to the benefit of us all over the detriment of others (do you really give a fuck about alcoholics since they help fund your NEETdom?)

>>139635166
This shit is real anons I smoked heavily for 4 years and it fucked with my stomach and the regulation of my body. Not to say this happens to everyone but if it is legalized everywhere It will start popping up and will start to cause problems. The fucked thing is that doctors are not aware at all yet of it so there is no other treatment but stopping. I too thought I had control but it definitely caught up to me, I wont become anti pot because of this though, just dont be a degenerate like me and moderate.

Only old fucks hate weed. 20 years when you fucks die out we can finally habe some fucking common sense laws about weed. Fucking baby boomer propaganda

>>139638319


My primary problem is with the culture acting like smoking is consequence free. I used to grow and abstain like you but unlike you I found excuses to smoke more and more. Before I realized it was a problem I was smoking daily.

If weed is going to be legal there needs to be a huge shift in the culture and the information out there. The one thing that finally made me realize I needed help was seeing dispensaries put in oil bars and proceed to give people a giant dab before they left to go drive home. Talked to my doctor and discovered the underlying reasons why I started smoking more heavily and learned about what I had done to my body in the process and was able to ask for help and stop.

>>139632611
I tore the MCL and ACL out of my knee at a work related injury the pain was so bad that I couldnt walk for months afterwords.

I started a prescription fentanyl program that lasted three years(after trying all other types of therapy, including weed) I can tell you from experience that taking something daily to help with pain is one of the worst addictions(weather it helps with a condition or not) you can EVER get yourself into.

Instead of trying to take the pain away, learn to live your life WITH the pain, your body will eventually build up a tolerance to the pain take if from someone who has no cartilage in one knee, and torn ligaments in the other, from years compensating for the other knee, that living with pain and knowing how to treat it(asprin, ice, heat, rest) is MUCH better then living without pain addicted to the jew(in whatever from it comes in)

You must be fun at parties OP

It's a just a plant bro you need to chill your autism

>>139637145
they'll certainly and have sprayed it will de-icer to make it weigh more and look crystally, but one downside (or maybe not considering) it doesn't stay lit so is useless anyway.
Sand also used to be a common thing to find in it, fuck knows why, it can't weigh that much. Spraying it with other addictives like nicotine or other drugs isn't unheard of.

This is all black market obviously.

I knew a girl who swears she bought some that was wet with piss one time. Awesome.

>>139639154
People understand the consequences of alcohol, they watch their parents beat and abuse one another, yet they still drink and abuse it themselves.

It's a vicious cycle of ignorance, the people spreading the falsity that weed comes without consequence are too young and or dumb to see the bullshit in that statement. I'm glad you were able to gain control of your life, just understand that if it wasn't weed, it would most likely have been something different.

We all look for something to escape into, whether that's 4chan, video games, guns, whatever it is, we will find it and abuse it, if not us, others. It's the shitty side of every good thing, unfortunately, and I can't think of any way you would fix that without ruining it for the legitimate users.

>>139637832
>you could at least start by admitting that you literally cannot be addicted to marijuana.

Please don't be fucking stupid, if not for yourself, you're making other people dumber if they believe you.

>>139639389
>ban a substance, forcing it to go black market in the first place
>use the fact that people are scummy fucks in the production of said substance as a defense as to why the drug itself is bad

Makes little sense to me, our own government killed hundreds of not thousands of people in the prohibition era in an attempt to eradicate alcoholics but it only increased the desire to drink.

Look at street heroin, we're controlling afghanistan, the worlds largest poppy producer yet our street drugs are killing hundreds because the dealers are lacing it with fentanyl seeing as there's no regulations, when we're getting them addicted to opiates in the first place with prescription pain pills.

It's a no-win system we live in, defending this to continue to happen is just as retarded as people saying weed has no consequences.

>>139634882
Except cannabis doesn't cause long term damage to the liver and brain. Cannabis is only processed by the liver when it's eaten, and even then it's not toxic. Any changes to your brain chemistry can be reversed by taking an extended break or just stopping completely.

Other drugs, yeah, but I don't really think it's fair to lump cannabis in with drugs that can cause legitimate irreversible harm to your body.

>>139640320
absolutely, the best reason to legalise it is that people are going to do it anyway, so that money might as well go to the state than gangsters, and at least there could be some quality control

>>139622503
>pot head gets home from work at 1500
>used to just drink
>used drink at 1900 after he gets shit done and it gets late
>now smokes weed and does so as soon as he gets off work everyday
>doesn't get anything productive done after work anymore

literally every "productive" pothead I know

>>139641025

>Life is about pleasing others

cuckold

>>139622503
Weed is degenerate.

>>139622503
The same can be said for heroin, its just from a poppy. Yet, they might counter that additives are used in production.. Well, nowadays, they are finding ways to make super potent THC lollipops and cakes n shiet.. its the same fucking thing.. probably worse, because instead of russian roulette death possibilities, it weed just turns you into a zoned out zomb.

>>139641101
Did I say being productive was pleasing others?

No

I mean exercise, hobbies, learning, etc.

>>139641358

>Work isn't exercising

I don't know what kind of pussy job you work, but i work construction. "get home and be productive despite working 50 hr's a week" Shut the fuck up faggot.

Also potheads think it's okay to go to work high because they can still work and since its not (((alcohol))) it's totally fine

>>139623745
I don't care what people do in their own living room.. but I have the right to call them fucking retards and zombs

>>139635324
Not true.. I thought there were no health issues from weed, but someone I know personally got SICK from smoking to much pot. Its called
Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome
look it up.

>>139622503
People that hate on weed are just mad at themselves for being pussies.

>>139637145
> dat super-dope canard
1970s and 80s weed was usually shit, crappy ditchweed sold by pleb tier street level dealers with shit suppliers (mexican brown is brown because it wasnt dried or cured right, it gets thrown in a trash compactor while still wet so it gets mouldy and loses all it's potency) or niggers who "know a nigga" who grew it in his grandma's back yard in alabama (hence the seeds)
me and my uncle grew some fine dope back in the 70s and 80s that's still a popular strain today.
the " exponential growth of potency" myth is bullshit, designed to raise fears of "overdose" without actually making the laughable claim of overdosing on cannabis.
you could always get good dope if you had the right connection or could grow it yourself from good seeds
if a strain is knocking your dick in the dirt, try cutting it with tobacco, adding in some shake, or just smoking less.

> "dabs"
thats what we used to call honey oil, hash oil, and butane honey oil.
it's not new, niggers just "rebranded" it and added in a gay little dance/pose then pretended they invented that shit
hash is good.
hash is a fine thing
a few drops of honey oil on a decent bud will transform it into a rocketship to never-never land
it will NOT kill you or damage your wetware.
it is still just cannabis.

> i cant imagine consuming that much thc is good for your brain...
you have a shit tier imagination.
cannabis is noteworthy for bing a recreational drug that has, in EVERY lab test, been proved to result in "satiety", or, in simple terms, "I have had enough, thanks... need funyuns"

it is not like cocaine, opiates, amphetamines or many other recreational pharmaceutical, which drives the user to constantly crave moar.
if you are afraid of weed, then weed is not for you, move along.
you dont have to sit in the calm-bake, you can join the chads at the keg.

>>139641460
so you just go home and get high and do nothing to better yourself after you work?

>>139641764

>so you just go home and get high and do nothing to better yourself after you work?

Nah I don't every day, but at least i have a job faggot. I make a shit ton of money in over-time work and I have a woman to take care of cooking, cleaning at home. And you think you can't learn when you're high? God you're fucking dumb aren't you.

>>139641670
>Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome
look it up.. I know someone personally who has them from habitual herb smoking

>>139641611

If you read my earlier post anon I was saying that weed is not safe and I actually developed cannibinoid hypermesis as a result of long term use.

>>139641764

Btw guaranteed you've never worked a hard manual labour job in your life. You're fucking hilarious hahahaha

>>139637836
> implying that my backyard grow is part of a "criminal organization"
> implying i have "victims" when i show up with a fat sack of my premium grass at the party
> implying selling a few ounces to a guy who will roll it up and sell loose joints at a doobie brothers concert is a "criminal enterprise"

go fuck yourself leaf.

>>139641898
I have a job you stupid fucking leaf

Also trying to defend being high when learning is degenerate

>139641764
No, I come home, smoke a joint and get to home/lawn care as well as feeding my kids. I'm not looked at as the alcoholic daddy, I'm tired daddy that just found a boost of energy after a long ass day.

Add that to the fact I've put on 20lbs of muscle the last few months because I'm not on pain pills eating everything and doing nothing after work, I can work through my chronic back pain and lift weights to further improve myself beyond what would normally be possible.

>>139642019
If only you knew you fucking leaf

>>139622503
I-I-ITS GUD 4 U MAN
(((((INHALES SMOKE INTO LUNGS)))))
SO GOOD 4 U BRO..

>>139642122

I get home, i eat the food my woman makes me and i chill with her till i go to bed. I work construction, i work hard and i make good money. If a little faggot liek you were to work with me you would collapse within the first few hours. So keep working your comfy little job and "better" yourself when you get home you little faggot, nobody fucking cares. Get off your high horse.

>>139622503
And why the fuck does it matter to you its not your body its not your problem you dont have to be in everybody's business live your own life and stfu

>>139622503
I smoke marijuana all day. I am never not high as a kite. There are no side effects then shit in my lungs and having an appetite. The only withdrawal is irritation or maybe a headache but that's because reality is hard to deal with.

>>139642287
>degenerate pot smoker
>trying to tell somebody else to get off their high horse

>>139642001
>pol
wow, so its actually more common than I thouht.

>>139641670
long term use can lead to lithium deficiency, which can lead to bi polar and depression

people prone to schizophrenia can be worsened by it

the culture of fucking with and lowering the cbd content leaves the brain more vulnerable to it

Not attacking you, that's just a really powerful advert for it being safe and that's not the full picture

>>139642465

>d-degenerate

I provide for a family, you're a fucking loser.

>>139642395
>reality is hard to deal with
Sort yourself out, bucko.

>>139623051
Only do edibles.

>>139641907
> implying your dubious and unverified anecdote is a statistically significant side effect
> generally only found in those who smoke "dabs"
> heavy use of refined cannabis oil (hash oil) never caused this before
> new cheaper processes using household solvents, oven cleaner and kerosene by asshole niggers trying to turn shitty mexican brown into something that will sell
> makes you chunder
who woulda thought.

this is NOT a result of pot smoking, or even frequent use of good quality hash oil.
if you buy your "dabs" from tyrone, you are expecting laboratory purity, proper adherence to best practices, and the use of the right solvents in a controlled environment?

do you also complain about the lack of quality control in your meth and crack as well?
i would advise finding a decent (non negroid) supplier and maybe slowing down on the hash binges.

>>139642553
sure dude

>>139642395
how long have you been smoking? it will catch up to you, the appetite will fade and the withdrawal will only get worse stop fooling yourself.

>>139642846

>I don't believe u

gottem

Also is this what you consider bettering yourself? Getting in random arguments with people on the internet? Go read a book bro lmao

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>>139622503
Legalize all the drugs. I dont need doctors or politicians telling me what I can and cannot do to myself

>>139623051
I only vape it or eat it. Next question?

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>>139631370
>you're just a weak minded faggot
>i use drugs every single day
?????

>>139642874
>withdrawal will only get worse
No it's fine. I stop for a week sometimes every few months to remind myself I'm not addicted. I don't even notice I've stoped smoking. You're mind controls your body and most pot smokers are weak willed. More people stop smoking pot then start.

>>139643094
the added benefit of this is the degenerates will off themselves in only 1-2 years time, leaving everyone with self control to enjoy the privilege of being a grown man able to make his own fuckin decisions not controlled by the state or Jamal from the alley.

>>139642874
> the fiirst puff of the marijuana cigarette traps the user in a downward spiral of anti-social behaviour, criminality and madness
> the devil's lettuce is being used by chicanos and jazz musicians to lure innocent white teens into a life of depravity prostitution and crime
> once you are hooked on the marijuanas, your life is forever ruined!
> we must protect our children from the dangers of degenerate behaviour, including rock and roll music, long hairstyles and The Pot Needle

Thanks Mr Ainslinger!
i cherish your sage advice.

>>139641907
it is not well know enough yet anon, none of the ignorant fucks on here are gonna believe you until it happens to themselves or some one they know. I dont think it happens to everyone but it is real.

>>139642874
I smoked just about every day for a five year period, then I stopped. No withdrawal except maybe very slight cravings the first few days

>>139643250
As long as you can moderate yourself I see no problem

thread TL;DR

People who smoke it will either promote it as a miracle drug, or at least defend it to save face and feel better.

I wouldn't ask a fatty about healthy eating, and I wouldn't ask a toker about the downsides of it.

Or at least weigh it up with an ex user's opinion who is now smoke free.

>>139643442
I believe you, I have friends who are the same, but I got terrible withdrawal when I stopped, I just think some people are more prone to it somehow.

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>>139622503
Stop POISONING yourselves.

>>139640072
>>139640072
>>139640072

IMPROVE YOURSELF

Marijuana has been responsible for a sweet irony in my sensibility. I'm all for psychedelics, and i smoke every month so, I have no gripes with it really, except that I think it's made people massively suggestible. What once was radical, the hippy, is now marketable, and the attitudes common to the pot smoker seem to be channelled to create this gauntlet of homogenous thought known as liberalism in the west.

What bothers me about all these high profile radical left movements, like our current wave of feminism is the corporate co-opting. You can't trust a movement that would allow corporations to fly their banners. These corporations didn't care before, why would they care now, and for any longer then when it stops being profitable? It lacks dignity or sincerity. I'm not a sexist or misogynist, I'd like to call myself a chauvinist at worst but that's only for the cad points and I'm no cad.

Anyway, the irony. The more psychedelics I enjoy, the less I agree with the seemingly 'for love' liberals. I feel like they misconstrue the lack of boundaries as acceptance, they misconstrue surrender and guilt for respect, they misconstrue decay for progress.

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>>139622503
>aspirin, ibuprofen, naproxen and acetaminophen are gateway drugs
>ALL addicts have taken one or a combination of these before moving on to harder drugs
>prove me wrong
clue: you can't
>denial of problem is sign of addiction
>if you deny what i said, you're an addict

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>basement dwelling weeaboos actually believing weed is physically addictive
>white dudes with dreadlocks and facial piercings actually believing weed is healthy for you
both of these people are idiots. it's smoke going in your lungs. of course it isn't good for you, despite what some goofy stoners say you're not going to shoot lasers from your eyes and live to be 200. if you want to smoke have some fucking discipline. a joint every now and then isn't going to fucking kill you, it's a great way to relax after a long day's work. the problem is that weak people with addictive personalities latch on to stoner culture, which is just fucking lame in the first place. if you don't do shit with your life, yeah. weed's not gonna get your resume out any time soon. if you can be responsible for yourself you should be able to smoke every now amd then.

>>139643073
lol you won't stop until you have the last word you fucking leaf, go ahead and reply to this post 10 more times after this

>>139644966
>>basement dwelling weeaboos actually believing weed is physically addictive


I hope this group of people die a slow painful death, and they will when their parents kick them out and their neetbux come to an end. /r9k/ weeaboo posters really should get fucking aids.

>>139644089
spot on

The fact it's legal shows that it's not a true psychedelic, anything mind opening wouldn't be allowed, simple.

The suggestible point you make rings very true with the current state of play in America.

It's now legally available, and ties in well with the way the left is being pushed via things the media.

When I used it I was a bit of a librtard, all the people I know on it daily now are libtards.

I think that's an interesting connection between it's new found legality and the way the left is being mobilised, with suggestibility being an important enabler of that.

It also subdues people, which isn't bad for (((them))) either. A more subdued citizenry.

>>139628910
newfag alert

>>139622503
addiction is relative
addiction is a societal construct
for example I know people who can't function properly without drugs, and drugs allows them to be more personable, work better, etc
everything in moderation (including drugs) can be a good thing.
For example perhaps smoking pot in the evenings can help people to unwind, and sleep better, making them more productive the next day.
Perhaps caffeine or those pain pills helps people to work more effectively by keeping them focused on the work at hand, and helps them get through work.
There's a lot of things that are relative, yes someone who does Drugs 24/7 and does not contribute to society is a degenerate, but someone who can control their drug use and contributes to society should be allowed to do whatever they want to their body as long as it doesn't get out of control

>>139645203
i'm not about to wish death on a dude for being chris-chan-lite, but god damn. it's a hell they created for themselves.

>>139645462
>i'm not about to wish death on a dude for being chris-chan-lite, but god damn. it's a hell they created for themselves.

They make themselves feel better for being "straight edge' but it's not by choice. It's because nobody would ever smoke a joint with them because they're insufferable faggot losers.

>>139645436
>everything in moderation can be a good thing
Okay obviously Murder or Rape in moderation is not a good thing, but I figured you autistic cunts were somewhat adult enough to understand this, but then I see this.
>>139628529
fucking utter morons

>>139645436
>using facts and logic on pol
Stop that

>>139645673
you care to explan when smoking a joint turns into a whole rape?

>>139643191
Kek'd heartily

>>139622503

If alcohol is legal then so should weed.

You can't argue against this logically. Alcohol is far more harmful to the human body and society but it's perfectly legal. I dare someone to try. You're fucked before you begin.

>>139622784
>>139622503
>2017
>people think weed is nonaddictive

Yet time and time again everything we have ever seen has proved differently?
Have you ever seen how angry or anxious a pot smoker is without their fix?
Have you had a girlfriend who acted like a total bitch when she didn't smoke first thing in the morning?
It's addictive, flat out.

Just because it isn't as addictive as alcohol, heroin, or any numerous drugs doesn't mean it is not addictive.

I've seen people waste their lives away because of pot. You'll never prove me to me it's not addictive.

>>139646025
was not saying that, was saying that Drug use in moderation can be a good thing. I think smoking a joint or a bowl in the evenings is great for some people, it helps them to unwind, gives them better sleep, and they wake up more refreshed and work better.
I think smoking a 1/2 oz of weed in a day, while drinking 48 beers is typically not a good thing.
The point being Drug use in Moderation, used maturely can be a good thing

>Smoking the
>HERBAL
>JEW

How fucking more blue pilled can you get?

>>139645673
Murder and rape are both part of the larger group of killing and having sex respectively. It's already over the limit, it's like saying being a drug addict in moderation is not a good thing. Rape happens when you can't control yourself and succumb to desire, same with murder.

>>139646749

People will waste their lives away to anything. That's not an actual argument. Every idle moment of your life that you fuck about is technically wasted time and potential.

As long as what you're doing isn't detrimental to those around you then it's not actual wasted time. You mention a girlfriend who was a "total bitch" when she didn't get her hit.

She'd be a total bitch regardless of that. She'd just find something else to fixate on. A video game, her phone, cheating on you, etc. The human brain will go where it will and use what it will to feel better.

No one ruins anything by saying stupid things about it. I really don't know if I've met anyone who believes it cures all cancer, that it's a medicine to all, or who thinks it's okay to be dependent on it. You're not dependent for smoking daily but for smoking to hide from issues and thus becoming a recluse. I also don't think I've met anyone who has their dick firmly implanted in stoner culture. Whenever I've been to a head shop with someone, no one buys the weird rastafarian or overly 420 stuff. If I wore a weed leaf shirt, people would feel sketched out because it would stand out. Am I just not running into them or what?

>>139628529
This is so much bullshit i don't even know where to begin... just because something is legal doesn't mean its not immoral, just like something being illegal doesn't mean it's immoral.

See: taxation is theft and clearly immoral, yet it is legal.
It is illegal in some states to fuck in any position other than missionary. Does that mean that any other position is immoral? Should you from now on only fuck your wife in missionary, if a law gts passed that says so?
If it becomes legal to kill your wife because she's considered property, does that mean it's okay to kill your wife?

Fucking idiots who argue like the law is some perfect institution or something. Jesus i almost hate these idiots more than stoners.

>>139623297

>It's just a crutch. Breathing smoke in your lungs is bad, but these hippy dopers ruin it for everyone with their lifestyle "this is healthy" bullshit.

To me it's convoluted.. it means that giggling stoners ruins the idea of pot. I think it's something you can get over. The idea of smoking pot but not thinking about the people who you don't like seems so far away. It's just deep rooted paranoia. Gotta realize these people don't define it, weed stands on it's own like anything else.

>>139647025
I love it how /pol/ can name the jew in literally everything

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>>139628529

>all these people responding to old ass fucking tripfag bait

Literal children and newfags on this site. Swells my heart to be able to spot them with this old bait. Still doing God's Work Quentin. You fucking asshole you.

>>139622503
>>139623010
>>139623586
>>139624114
I don't get it. I understand spaghetti, and I understand anime girls, but not this. Is there more to the spaghetti anime girl?

>>139647438
>muh invisible sky-daddy! muh lard and savior! halleloooo!

kys

>>139644966

I agree. Although edibles and vaping it probably don't do anything harmful. Smoking shit and inhaling it in general is really bad since it introduces entirely different chemical compounds into the mix.

I wouldn't recommend just plain inhaling the smoke out of your fire in the winter even though it smells great. Not to mention the studies that have found that smoked meats might not be so good for you.

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>>139622503
>10 post by ID
I'll bite. All weed does on to me on /pol/ is made all the shillbot posts seem uncanny. Weed is hardly even that interesting after a while.
ITT: Faggots don't know alcohol is harder on you than weed.

>>139649283
This is the second argument OP forgot to mention.

>muh muh alcohol if you don't smoke weed you drink alcohol muh weed is better than alcohol lmao

>>139622503
the proper argument is that no one should be able to tell me what I can and can not do with my body as long as its not hurting someone

I should be able to go to the pharmacy and order up a gram of whatever I want that I know exactly its strength and that it isn't cut with weird shit. As long as I am not driving/watching children/harming anyone then there should be no way for people I dont know to stop me from ingesting whatever just cause it makes them some money

>>139622503

fuck off, it's 1/100th as harmful as alcohol
sage

>>139646749
>Have you ever seen how angry or anxious a pot smoker is without their fix?

A girl walked into my shop the other day

"I COULD FUCKING KILL SOMEONE" she says, with her kid next to her

"what's up?" I say.

"I've gone 24 hours without smoking weed" she replies

"Oh well done" I say, sort her out and off she goes, tense as fuck

I see her a week later, she's totally fine and normal, and still off the weed.

I smoke one joint a week (0.3-0.5 gramm). I still get regrets sometimes. Am I fine srsly?

>>139633009
>tfw 15 years from now anons kids gonna unearth 3lbs of weed.

>Potheads just sit around all day doing nothing, fucking stoners!

Isn't litteratly that everyone when they are not at work/school?

>>139643574
You left out the other broken record of the opposing argument, or were there none of those posts in this thread?

DUDE WEED LMAO
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/
>Cannabis use has been shown to impair cognitive functions on a number of levels—from basic motor coordination to more complex executive function tasks, such as the ability to plan, organize, solve problems, make decisions, remember, and control emotions and behavior. These deficits differ in severity depending on the quantity, age of onset and duration of marijuana use. Understanding how cannabis use impairs executive function is important. Individuals with cannabis-related impairment in executive functions have been found to have trouble learning and applying the skills required for successful recovery, putting them at increased risk for relapse to cannabis use.
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4250161/
> In this study, we found that chronic exposure to marijuana (i) reduces OFC gray matter volume, (ii) increases structural and functional connectivity, and (iii) leads to neural alterations that are modulated by age of onset and duration of use. All in all, these findings suggest that chronic marijuana use results in complex neuro-adaptive processes.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4033190/
>The relationship between cannabis and schizophrenia fulfills many but not all of the standard criteria for causality, including temporality, biological gradient, biological plausibility, experimental evidence, consistency, and coherence. At the present time, the evidence indicates that cannabis may be a component cause in the emergence of psychosis, and this warrants serious consideration from the point of view of public health policy.

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4651943/
>Various in vivo and in vitro studies have reported on the empirical role that marijuana plays in disrupting the hypothalamus-pituitary-gonadal axis, spermatogenesis, and sperm function such as motility, capacitation, and the acrosome reaction. >Note: High testosterone levels are also associated with increased in-group favoritism.(That’s why potheads are mostly lefties.)
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4586320/
>Studies examining the adverse health outcomes associated with marijuana use have focused primarily on respiratory, cardiac, and metabolic problems, as well as mental health problems such as depression, anxiety, and psychosis.
>https://cdpsdocs.state.co.us/ors/docs/reports/2016-SB13-283-Rpt.pdf
>Bonus one: Marijuana Legalization in Colorado: Early Findings.


>Weed raises Estrogen levels:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0041008X06000093

>Weed Causes Lung Damage:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16128224
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23802821
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24384575
https://www.nature.com/articles/npjpcrm201671
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2094297/
http://monaldi-archives.org/index.php/macd/article/view/645/633

> be me
> work from home, smoke weed every day for 4 years, many days where I'm high pretty much all day
> travel several times per year for work and leisure, up to 45 days at a time
> don't smoke when i travel, dont even think about it
> currently on day 12 of leisure trip in Europe, no weed, total of 3 alcoholic drinks on trip so far, give 0 fucks, having a great time
> experienced cocaine addiction for a couple months about 10 years ago, know what actual addiction is like
> lol at weed being addictive

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>>139649622
>American flag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hfni-_kEFU
This could be one of your ancestors you know. I'd tell you to educate yourself but we both know that isn't happening.
Shit thread 0 discussion. SAGE

>>139648666
I don't know, vaping always seems to be much more harsh than smoking. Maybe its just cause I cant get things like vapor pens in my area so you have to resort to something like a launch box or rockzap, or am just doing it wrong. But it seems like its just an equal trade of tar from combusting vs blistered lungs from vaping.

>>139653709
i'm coming from the side of caution not promotion, there could be young people reading this thread who are curious about weed, which is why.

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>>139655886
Vaping weed? Thats what I do, its the healthiest way, the vapor gets really dense and warm though. It also makes instant weed for edibles when done.
I'd recommend a tabletop one cause I've saved a lot of money on it as of late.

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>>139627152
>Deviancy
Posts anime pic (latent pedophillia)

>>139656543
Ive used one of those (Extreme Q specifically) but fount it to be more wasteful, after a while it just doesn't seem to generate more than 2-4 good drags of vapor and you have to pack alot into those things, I'd rather just top off a bowl pinch by pinch, take my 4-5 tokes, and be done with it. Never had much luck making edibles out of the refuse either, so just a soured taste on the method all around until laws and things like ejuice can make it here.

>>139656440
Fair enough, I never touched the stuff til my 20s so don't really advocate doing it during developing stages either.

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>>139653944
shut this scientific evidence down, there are stoned people who feel differently

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i will admit that alcohol is superior to weed, but goddamn if it doesn't feel great to nofap for a week or so then smoke a bowl and nut one out.

>>139622503
Could say the same about alcoholics

>>139657250
>Extreme Q

You have to keep it really clean for it to be effective. Mine's treated me well for 5 years now.

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>gets rid of my hunger-induced nausea in the morning
>keeps my hands a steadier when playing vidya
>not made in a fucking lab and relatively cheap to grow yourself

I get up and go to work every day and meet my daily obligations. If I want to wind down a bit, I'll do it in the privacy of my own home and the government shouldn't be able to tell me otherwise.

>>139631370
This
I have intentionally become addicted to different drugs to see how withdrawals are and the different highs. As someone who has got hooked on heroin, meth, painkillers, and coke, you have to be a weak willed faggot to not make it through a couple weeks/month of withdrawals for a healthier and better life.

>>139657944
Yeah I think that's key. Not doing it during development. Unfortunately that's the time when the hormones are going crazy and you most want to look cool, and don't think about consequences. Typical hey.

>>139656440
Kids shouldn't do any kind of drugs in the first place. weed stunts their mental development and people who give them it should be lynched.
>>139657250
Rough, I went a local smoke shop a some long time vets hooked me up. I can even vape my plant while its drying. I shouldn't but I oh well.

>>139657944
I've got a 13 year old Godson, he's acting older all the time, he loves youtube, and watches pretty mature content for his age imo, but he is a smart lad too, so I guess it's understandable. I just don't know what to say to him about weed if he asks, I don't want to say the wrong thing, but I don't want to preach. His father passed away when he was young. I just don't want him to get peer-pressured into doing drugs. I did, and I had a great time, but it got me no where in life, and I wasted potential. I just think with the weed culture on youtube now, he'll do it, and could then move on to other things like I did.

>>139622503
>taking a plant this seriously
Mind your own fucking business, fucking antifa shithead

>>139622784
Weed addiction is real, just rare.
Tbh if you "feel" the need to smoke regularly, then guess what? You're addicted.

>>139659661
I mean I don't know whether to tell him that I did it for years, and don't recommend he does it, because from that perspective I know what I'm talking about, but he looks up to me, and if I say I did it he might feel like he wants to in a way.

Or if I say I never did it, or not much, then I'm not much of an authority on it.

I guess somewhere in the middle or something.

>>139659661
No kids here so I really wouldn't know what to say either. My best guess would be to tell him your story and try to stress why things aren't good to do until he's older, but from what I understand kids don't like hearing those kind of things much. I didn't go to many parties or gatherings that had people drinking/smoking until well after school, so that could be the only reason I didn't get into anything earlier. You wont be able to stop everything, but just hope for the best.

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>>139627912
>Ket is less harmful than Weed

>>139661060
Yeah, I guess it's his group of friends who have more power than me. He's sworn he'll not smoke cigarettes haha, his grandad and I have told him that from experience. But I guess it comes down to strength of character to refuse in the moment, or to do it to look cool and like one of the lads.

I've lost 2 friends to heroin, one was 23 and the other was 29, I knew them since teenagers, and obviously we all started on cigarettes and then weed, then ecstasy, but I never moved on to smack.

I guess I'll just tell him something about not doing anything until his 20's, and then maybe it'll be easier to talk to him as an adult about drugs and life.

Thanks

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>>139631505
>everything is made from weed
Bru-hh

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>>139622503
Typical pot smoker is typical.

Will be completely legal in the states within 15 years. Get over it. If you dont like it dont smoke. I enjoyed my time in seattle last year. Alcohol is far more harmful in every way. Currently stopped smoking for a month so I can get a job tractor operating for harvest in aus zero adverse affects its not the substance its the personality. People get addicted to anything example that guy from supersize me who only eats big macs good luck tryna stop micky ds you faggots smokers gon smoke regardless may aswell benefit society with the tax.

>>139622691
Man, I can't believe anyone hasn't said fpbp. This is truely the level of sarcasm this thread deserved.

Also if God didn't want me to smoke weed he shouldn't have left it all over the fucking place, and he could have put receptors for it in the medula oblongata to stop people's breathing and heart beat... like heroine. He didn't though, and for that, I thank him.

>>139664716
Dude just likes to smoke dope and sex up donkeys. Nothin' wrong with that.

>>139622503
Fuck off wanker. Go and live your life and stop dictating to others. I smoke pot nearly every day. I stop whenever I want a break. No issues here.

STOP TALKING SHIT FUCKWITT. Your the sad cunt living your life to the LAWS and regulations. Go experience some fun, you might relax and enjoy your miserable life.

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>>139622503
I literally went and watched traffic court for three hours or more, and I come home to see you fucks are still at this?

addicts are truly pathetic

>>139664716
Fake as fuck. You would make a fake article and not converse with source links.

>>139650291
>totally fine
>still off the weed
What, did you follow and when she left and watched over everything she did, and see she didn't smoke?

>>139630600
you're reddit

Say what you want about weed, but it literally should be legal.

>Having the government involved to tell you to not smoke something.

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>>139666000
Fuck off to Canada or Melbourne CBD you filthy shit

Daily reminder that if you are anti-weed but you drink alcohol, you are a hypocrite and a degenerate.

Anything used as a mental/emotional crutch is degenerate and a sign of weakness. Including caffeine (less so because you can work at a certain capacity on it, on some levels is debilitating.) But it's not "addictive" like opiates. It's an easy habit to break.

I agree about being leery of most potheads though. Lack of work ethic=lack of ability to respect others.

>>139667229
respect the double trips, and the individual's freedom

>>139659661
My mother or father never properly sat me down and talked about it. They did what you are thinking of doing and gave me a little "yeah, I did it a couple times. But I didn't really like it and its really bad for you."
You gotta tell him that he will be offered it and pressured into taking it, and that people will lie to you, so you take it.
They'll tell you it's healthy, not addictive.
That's what happened to me with a friend. That friend though started smoking 3 times a day and he couldn't function if he didn't smoke it. He was only 15 and started at 12. Sad shit.
My other friend that does it now offers me it a lot. But he tells me he can't sleep without it. Really makes me want to do it.

>>139667407
Alcohol is much more fun and less shitty than weed.

>>139667744
True, I should just let you guys become mindless animals.
You'll feel better when you come off it. You'll be able to sleep from 10 - 8

>>139667132
I agree. Let the weak distract themselves while the sharks go out and compete.

>my degeneracy should be legal because It's my choice, but the trannies and fags need to be stopped

>>139666000
>your

>>139667937
>I should just let you guys become mindless animals
Exactly, if pot is as bad as you claim, you're going to have a much higher economic value as an individual. If its not as bad as you claim, you're not out anything

>>139668384
And, legal gay sex, 50 different genders, no white babies because no stoner wants babies, and no one wants to have sex with a stoner, unless its for weed.
I don't care about money

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>unironically uses the same argument for his daily mochalatte

>>139668685
Dude, wait... what? Where other than muslim shit holes is gay sex illegal. Most 1st world countries don't make it illegal. 50 different genders isn't a natural phenomenon, its a mental illness. Good on you for valuing your principles above money though.

>Weed is natural and literally grows everywhere
>There aren't receptors in your medula oblongata, and thus can't shut down breathing/heart beat like heroine can.
>Has a profound/phenomenal reaction, and can be used as medicine for a myriad of illnesses.
>We're not supposed to smoke it

>>139666000
checked

>>139669374
I mean legal gay marriage. Tranny rights etc.
Also we know its a mental disorder you fucking spastic.
This weed really is slowing you down.

There are a million natural things that can kill you instantly, your point?

Why are you comparing it to heroin, no one mentioned anything about it, no one wants legal heroin in this thread.

So prescribe it to the Ill, not you.

Yes, we shouldn't. But you keep wiping out brain cells cause you want to cover your emotions and shit life with a plant that will lead you into a shittier life, full of regret.

>>139623258
Are you retarded? It sounds like you're talking about meth or something you fucking imbicile. Weed doesn't have that kind of effect. Please don't pass on your genes.