What is a suitable age to move out of your parents house?

>>139469558
There is no reason to move out before you are married

>>139469667

this

or taking the time to get yourself established

if you can't pull that off before your mid 30's you fucked up though

>>139469667
I kind of disagree. Especially if you live in a smaller apartment/house with your family you can't even bring home a girl without having 0 privacy.

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>>139469829
What do you plan on doing with her before you are married?

>>139469811
>if you can't pull that off before your mid 30's you fucked up though
If you live at home until your mid 30's you're gonna end up pretty depressed I reckon

>>139470103
Math homework of course

>>139469558
Who cares, do whatever the fuck you want. Its hard to have any sort of move by x standard going today because too many people dont even have the money to move out.

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>>139470179
Girls dont know how to do math

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>>139469558

Dear goy- I mean god, anon!

You are older than 12 and still not paying me-, I mean, paying rent and taking loans to pay your mortgage?

What is wrong with you?

Here, come next thursday to my bank or talk to your parents about giving away their rich- I mean, getting their saved money and paying for one of these great places for you to live in like a good goy- I mean grown boy.

Our interest rates are unbeatable!

General consensus seems to be that living at home as long as possible is optimal. What if you're able to afford living on your own though? How can you save Evropa if you still live with your mom and dad?

>>139469667
>implying any respectable cutie with options would date a man living with his parents

This rule applies only to females. Women want men that can provide for them. How do that if you don't even provide for yourself.

I advocate for moving out as soon as it's financially viable, but i was mostly lucky. had a friend looking for a roommate for super cheap, then 4 of us lived in a house, me and my gf in an apartment, and now me and my wife in our house.
I had the fortune of being able to slowly step up as my situation allowed for it

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>>139469667

good luck getting married while you still live with mommy, ahahahaha

this thread explains a lot about the typical trumpcuck's lifestyle. pic related.

>>139469558
where i live, 70% of the people i work with in a well paying job are stuck living with parents who own homes.

It's impossible to acquire property anymore because the market is fucked.

>>139475360
Cuties that are saving themselves for marriage dont have as many options as you think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWe0TB6pH2w

18 should be mandatory, 16 if you can handle the trooth

>>139476062
That sucks. We have a similar situation here but not quite as bad, just managed to move out myself actually. We have a housing shortage, doesn't help that rapefugees literally get to the front of the housing queues, they just get to skip ahead of the rest of us.

>>139476141
Cuties that are saving themselves for marriage will want someone who can provide for them though. Same goes for most women I think.

Moved out at 30. Didnt want to pay the rent jew. Went to uni, then got a shite job i could have got when i was 16. Took me til i was 28 to start earning proper money, and was able to save enough to pay for a deposit.

I got on with my parents, both red pilled, pro-brexit, UKIP and easy going. That certainly helped, imagine its not the same for everyone but would always recommend pro longing living at home-if its healthy for you, save some doe and avoid the rent jew. Otherwise, its a pretty hard cycle to break. Renting, bils, saving.

>>139476359
best way to become finality stable is not to waste money on crap you need like housing for a single man

>>139469558
25-28

>>139476758
Explain to me how you'll meet an attractive woman and maintain a serious relationship with her while living in a tight space with your mom, dad and the rest of your family

>>139476992
>attractive woman and maintain a serious relationship with her

you don't. hell i'm 30 and have my own place and still couldn't give two shits for doing this.

>>139476558
>Didnt want to pay the rent jew.

I agree with this, paying rent to any one other that family is just throwing money away.

>>139476141
Not about the quantity, it's about quality. Any cutie has options, compared to men. Say two guys working the same job, making the same money, are courting a traditional girl. One lives with his parents and one lives on his own. On the surface one shows drive and motivation. One shows that his mother still does his laundry. Who do you really thinks gets the girl.

>>139476992
If you live with your parents, you have more disposable income to spend women or save up and finally buy your own apartment. Spending up 50% of your income on renting is stupid.

>>139477258
One have 30% less of disposable income than the other.

>>139477586
I doubt any woman will go for a guy who lives with his parents in the first place. Maybe if he lives in a big house with his parents, I don't know. Personally the living space was just too tight, I had to move out.

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>>139469558
Moved out at 22, I'm 25 atm.
If my parents didn't enforce me into the apartment queue the moment I was able to, I would've been living with them even now.

Would've driven me insane.

>>139475909
Why are lefty discord subversion techniques so fucking obvious? Yall need to be more discreet if you actually want to make a difference

>>139476558
Do you think moving out to a better job offer plus education with it is acceptable, despite having to pay rent? I was offered a slightly better job than this post-uni menial job with opportunities for development, but will have to move and pay rent.

>>139476992
Because you show here unlike most of modern numale 'men' you have money saved up to buy house

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>>139470179

Anon that's pretty lewd

[spoiler]Especially since she has a penis[/spoiler]

>>139477944
Hmm I'm not sure it's worth living with your parents your entire 20's just to save up for a house. Plus it's not impossible to do both, pay rent AND save up to buy a house.

>>139477694
>I doubt any woman will go for a guy who lives with his parents in the first place.
Girls that are family focused will

>>139478164
>pay rent AND save up to buy a house.
ok but you can save up money faster not wasting money on rent

I'm 25 and haven't moved out of my parents house yet due to a severely crippling anxiety disorder. I do plan to move out by the end of october but im worried that I won't be able to. Fuck anxiety, i feel so useless and powerless, unable to do anything to better my life.

>>139477586
So one can buy gifts, one can provide a ready made home. That's how you become an orbiter, or at most a fuck buddy. And you're able to have that disposable income at the expense of living with your parents. It shows nothing of how you'd actually take care of her without help. If you're not ready to take care of yourself, how can she expect you to automatically be ready to take care of her.

>>139469558
inherit and acquire land & property.

>>139477694
You should not doubt.
A man living with his parents need to explain why he do this. I think that saving money to buy a good apartment for him and his family is plausible enough. If a man living with his parents want serious relationships with a women, he is recommended to leave parents and rent an apartment with a woman of his choice.
Renting eats up man's income and men had better live with parents and then buy their own apartments.

>>139478269
I understand that feel.

>>139478276
One rents, the other wants to buy an apartment and save money for fulfilling this goal

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>>139478269
Good luck anon, I believe in you.

>>139469558
I moved out at 18 but it was onto a campus living situation so idk if that counts, but then when I was 21 I started renting a place. You learn a lot more life skills when you take care of your own living space, and it makes you feel like more of a properly capable adult because of it.

>tfw lived almost all of my 20s away from home and moved back in at 29 because I didn't give a fuck about being cool anymore

saving massive cash bros

>>139477431
You're deluded.

No girl is gonna choose a guy who lives with his parents over a guy in a bachelor pad. Hell, they'll take a guy with roommates over a guy still living like a 15 year old.

You have to understand, a woman is evaluating your viability as a father to her children. She doesn't think like a man. 'Companionship' is not enough. A girl doesn't sit down and think to herself, 'yeah, I could sit in this guy's bedroom hiding away from his parents and fucking/playing vidya/watching netflix all day'. That's the kind of shit a man thinks.

A woman thinks 'does this guy have his shit together well enough to provide me with enough resources to raise our kids?'

>>139478414
Haha Masterrace guys le Donald xddd? Right guys? He awooo? Anyone there, please anyonneeee!!!!

(You)

>>139478700
I believe you're correct. Sure you'd save a bit of cash living with your parents, but most women wouldn't even consider you as a potential partner.

>>139469558
Traditionally? 18
These days? 29

>>139478474
>>139478414
Thank you anons

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>>139469558
>mfw late 20's
>mother is in her late 60's
>something happens to her the property and house becomes mine
Its just more economically smart to not fuck off at this point.

Don't have to pay rent or shit like that, just pay my share of the bills and help keep the property cut.


Some females just immediately make a shitface soon as I say the shit but a good bit get fucking jelly as hell that im pretty much already set on having property and a home.

Now if I could only get ahold of my neighbors property

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>>139469558
>18-23
You get a trade school / college degree and GTFO. The only excuse to live with your parents past 20 is that you're in college and they live near it.

Paying bills out your own god damn pocket, working, and living in a dormitory/semi-shitty apt teaches you crucial perspective that both >>>/r9k/ and antifa lacks completely. People living at home and sperging on the streets or the interwebs about the world and politics is like housewives talking about the struggles of building a career. It's absolutely disgusting.

>>139478700
Buying a house is important in one of major ciites than having a girlfriend.

>>139470268
He's gonna do her homework, obviously

>>139478899
How's the housing situation in Suomiland atm?

Based brit

>>139469558
Moved out at 18 for my job in another state, moved back in at 30 temporarily to help take car of my parents while they set up for retirement.

>>139469558
>marrying
>in Greece
It's like you want to be more miserable than you already are.

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Moved out at 19

27 own my own home in one off the better areas of town and married with three beautiful white children

Dobt listen to the
>as long as you leave you'll be fine desu senpai

>>139479363
blease essplain

Are Greek women horrible?

>>139478449
Your thinking you can't do both rent and save for a house. I did both. It's harder and takes a stronger work effort. Not arguing that. But that work effort and motivation shows what kind of man you are. Just like I'm going to milk my parents for as long as I can shows what kind of man you are.

>>139479424
'course they are.

there's a reason they're called Ελεϊνίδες

>>139478700
>You have to understand, a woman is evaluating your viability as a father to her children. She doesn't think like a man. 'Companionship' is not enough. A girl doesn't sit down and think to herself, 'yeah, I could sit in this guy's bedroom hiding away from his parents and fucking/playing vidya/watching netflix all day'. That's the kind of shit a man thinks.

lol

Do you understand that renting a piece of shit in nowhere doesn't prove that you're a man, Renting a decent apartment eats up of 40-80% of young man's income. Therefore a renting man is going to buy his own apartment much later in life.

>>139479488
In my country (Russia) almost none can do both.

>>139479253
>Shitstorm's a brewin'
There's a bubble and it's inflating steadily, especially in a 70km radius from Helsinki. They're building thousands and thousands of apartments that only a minority can afford. They're modern commie blocks too, practically identical to each other (incl. cupboard handles, ventilation units, doors, locks, color schemes, etc)

>>139469558

Nothing like being 27 and still sponging off your parents. Believe me.

My parents don't even care when me or my siblings take our girlfriends upstairs to fuck. Our little sister is the only one that moved out young, but that's just because she found a sugar daddy.

>>139479488
>But that work effort and motivation shows what kind of man you are. Just like I'm going to milk my parents for as long as I can shows what kind of man you are.
You cannot change the housing and employment market. No matter how hard you work, you wage is limited by the employers.
In Russia, 1m of property = 2 of average montly salary of an average Ivan

>>139479547
But they're QTs

What does Ελεϊνίδες mean? And why are Greek women so bad?

>>139479422
Nice bro

>>139480041
What's the average hourly wage in Russia?

>>139479883
Kind of similar to ours then.

>>139469558
18 of course. any later and you're a lost cause who should consider suicide

Not before you leave college

31 and I still live with mine.

I don't give a shit about marrying or producing a bloodline. I get along well with them, help them out around the house, do my own laundry and 50% of my cooking, it's significantly cheaper than renting somewhere and they live literally a 5 minute drive from my work.

Given that they're both late 60's and need more help I'll probably be here till they die.

>>139480289
>I don't give a shit about marrying or producing a bloodline.
Why not? What could possibly be more important?

>>139479733
Cant speak on Russia. Sorry to be you. If that's really the case don't expect to find your cutie until you buy your own place. Enjoy your late start. Hope you like well worn roasties. Those stupid guys that jumped right into renting, got a major head start on you.

>>139480164
In Moscow young men get 600-1500 euros per month.
1 metre of property costs 1,300-10000 euros
In good big cities 300-900 euros
1 metre of property costs 500-1500 euros
In average big cities 200-500 euros

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>>139478866
Lift heavy shit, eat like a truck and do sprint workouts, watch your anxiety lessen each week
You'll get there.

>>139480378

My own happiness and desire to do what I wish with my free time instead of being a slave to my biological urges to keep some dumb cunt satisfied so she will produce little shits that only exist to eat up my income.

>>139469558
I was 15. If you haven't moved out at 18 you might as well kill yourself

>>139480499
Hmm okay. How's Moscow? My Ruski friend told me it's full of Jews.

>>139480456
Many young Russians fuck roasties (in many cases even older than them, single moms).
I'm not that retarded, I will find a young girl.

>>139469558
When you can afford it without financially crippling yourself in the process.

>>139469667
That could only really by said by someone who has never lived on their own. It's a fucking blessing, but you still need to be able to actually afford it.

>>139480745
The question is, at what age did Varg move away from home?

>>139480688
I don't know man, don't you think you'll end up feeling lonely or empty once you reach the age of 40-50 or 60 or whatever with no kids?

>>139469558
>What is a suitable age to move out of your parents house?

When you are old enough to move in with your kids.

>>139477431
Renting an apartment doesn't mean you have to spend 50% of your income on rent. That is a false equivalence.

>>139480041
So while you wait and saved, chadvich moved out and rented. He got himself a young cutie and might have to struggle through life. You'll finally get your own place, and be set, but you'll have to sift through leftovers and used goods.

>>139480745
Most people move out later because there is something called education which makes it quite hard to move out before you have completed it.

>>139480688
>an unbroken chain of millions of years ends in a single individual's bitter, misguided musings about women
Autism speaks.

>>139477944
Generally women don't care about how much money you have. They care about how much money you are willing to spend on them. Living too frugal definitely does not indicate a high tendency towards the latter.

Not saying that you should develop retarded spending habits, just that you should be aware of what women actually look for and not delude yourself into thinking you check off all their demands when you are signalling quite the opposite.

I still haven't moved out, but both my parents are dead so I'm not sure what the fuck I am.

>>139481241
>chadvich
Chadimir*

>>139477694
lol you underestimate the type of shitheads in my age group (18-24) fuck man I was a neet for 2 years until I got a job and half of the people I talked to in highschool are not doing much better than me or a NEET

>>139481325
>Generally women don't care about how much money you have
Haha good one bro

>>139478269
anxiety here too but I'm moving next month.

You should already know what is an anxiety disorder, it's a broken red alert of your nervous system.

Best way to fight it is to face your fears, yeah I know it sounds cheesy.

>>139480917
I'm from Moscow.
There almost no jews left here. Majority of the Jews living in Russia are half-bloods and they intermarrying in every generation.
Moscow is the city that can offer opportunities for men with ambitions and skills.
However, there is imbalance between the cost of living in Moscow and average wages. Housing is very expensive, especially in decent districts and average Ivan will never buy an apartment in good district. Therefore more and more people are buying property in suburbs.
Girls are promiscuous and have high standards, ~20-30% of them fucked a sandnigger at least once.
Non-white population is about 10%. 20% of young men are non-white.

>>139469667
No. If you can't afford a place of your own you share house with people your age. This is usually the best time of your life.

>>139481518
Read the rest of the sentence. You having tons of money to your name doesn't mean shit if they get the impression that you'll never spend any of it on them.
They don't want a wealthy man, they want access to a man's wealth.

>>139481563
If that's really the best time of your life, you're pathetic and an idiot.

>>139481238
In Russia, it means 20-80 of income.
Average flat in Moscow = 700 dollar, average wage of a young men 1100 dollar

>>139481545
Interesting.

>~20-30% of them fucked a sandnigger at least once.

How do you know this? I don't want to believe you anon :(

>>139481604
I guess you have a point, but it very much depends on the type of grill.

>my mum and dad were able to get a mortage on their house with a fucking 5% downpayment
>wages back then were good too
>most places now want 10-15%
>wages are shit
>house prices are more expensive tha ever

epic, simply epic

>>139481062
>don't you think you'll end up feeling lonely or empty once you reach the age of 40-50 or 60

Not as long as I have vidya, books, and online poker to keep me occupied. I also have a chronic illness that will probably be so crippling in old age that I'll kill myself in my 60's when it starts to heavily impact my day to day ability to function.

>>139481297

I actually have nothing against women as a whole, I've just only met a handful in my entire life that weren't just a pretty face and I actually appreciated them for their mental stability and intelligence to the point I would consider them a worthwhile lifelong companion.

However at this point in my 30's unless I find a young one I'm pretty much at the point where all of the good ones are taken and I'd have to settle for a former carousel rider looking for beta bux. In which case I'll gladly take a lifetime of being single over that.

>>139481795
>Average flat in Moscow = 700 dollar
700 USD a month, right? Sadly that would be considered cheap in Stockholm

>>139481241
I will fuck young women, smart men always fuck younger women

>>139480941
possible but by then can you really compete with guys ten years your junior, also with there own place, even if they're renting. Then have watch out for women that only want you only for being able to provide, while they find young stud to bone. When I was nineteen and on my own I was competing with 16 year old dudes that didn't have shit but maybe a car. Found my one, and married. At thirty you'll be competing with 19/20 year olds who on the surface seem to have what you have.

>>139481869
Gotta destroy the Boomer-Chinese-Jew housing cartel.

>>139477736
>Would've driven me insane.
Had to move back in for half a year towards the end of my studies because the landlord wanted the apartment for his son.

The worst aspect was that you are asked to fucking justify everything you do.
>Where are you going?
>Don't you want to take a jacket with you?
>What did you order?
>Why did you do X?
It was infuriating. I was already an adult, I made my own decisions and I paid my own bills (I wanted to pay them rent for the room but they didn't want it, otherwise I covered everything). Being second guessed for even the tiniest shit drove me insane pretty fast.

>>139469558

33-35

>>139480646
That guy looks like Dr. Nele Karajlic.

>>139481865
My personal experience. I also tried to analyze the number of non-white male and white female couples on the streets. The percentage was 10-15
Russian women are golddigger and sandniggerlovers, I regret to say this but this is awkward truth.

>>139479620
>Do you understand that renting a piece of shit in nowhere doesn't prove that you're a man

Doesn't matter for the scenario you guys are talking about, because the only thing that matters is what impression it gives off to women. If the impression is actually correct doesn't play into it all that much.

>>139479319
damn thats cold, you took their car?

>>139469558
Most millenials can't afford to move out. Renting is a good way to ensure you will never own anything.

Almost every single person i know still lives at home, even people older then me who have families of their own still live with their folks becuase nobody can afford to move out. The only guy i know who has his own place only has it becuase he had his rich mommy and daddy to help him. Living with family saves money, why would you want to blow more then half your income on renting? just so you can virtue signal about how "independent" you are? by living paycheck to paycheck?

The reality is the housing market is completely fucked, thus nobody lives on there own. people only rent if they are forced to move out, otherwise 8/10 people nowadays live at home still.

Anybody claiming otherwise is undoubtedly some out of touch baby boomer who is buthurt no one is buying his overpriced hut.

>>139481958
Men physical appearance peak is 32. So I don't worry

>>139481874
>has nothing against women
>thinks 95% of women are intellectually inadequate or ugly as sin
>thinks all single women ride the cock carousel
Right.

Still you could marry a newer model.

>>139482571
>why would you want to blow more then half your income on renting
can't have my sex palace in my father's home

>>139481869
foreign investors need to be banned from acquiring property.
it's a limited good that's not just a luxury, it's a travesty that so much of it sits around unused just because someone wants to rake up some profits on it

>>139482718

Maybe things are different in Finland but here in the southern US yes, a single woman over the age of 25 is almost certainly a carousel rider or otherwise undesirable.

>>139482317
Damn, sucks to hear. I knew they were gold diggers to some extent but so are most eastern european women, it's still better than virtue-signaling naive idiot Scandinavian women. Do you think Moscow is an otherwise comfy city?

>>139483073
Here you can easily find a good Christian girl as long as you look outside the bigger cities.

>>139482571
Pretty sure most people in here pointed out that it's also a question of affordability. If moving out is not affordable then you obviously cannot move out.

You'll also not really have to deal with the social stigma attached to still living with your parents as an adult because the same is true for basically everyone else around you, too.

>>139482626
but at 32 you aren't courting 16 year old bitches anymore, the youngest is probably 18. By then you don't seem to be more well off than that 20 year old that's still renting. I'm not saying there's no hope, just saying you're getting a late start, so don't be surprised by your options.

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Between the age of 6 and 7.

>Move out at 18
>Rent apartment and pour money down the drain
>Get a (((loan))) and buy an apartment
good job americans, you're truly the financial geniuses of this world

>>139483171
I would rather live in any major European capital or in a major American city.
The number of non-white here is ever increasing, wages are low in comparison to Western Europe or America.
Still, Moscow is the best Russian city for a man who wants to achieve something great.

>>139483321
I will find a girl in 16-23 year range.

>>139483593
>any
I'd rather live in Somalia than in Paris. At least the population would be primarily natives.

>>139483772
Good luck with that. I hope your wait is worth it.

>>139483593
Make Russia great again bro

>>139475909
14 btw

>>139469667
fpbp

my biggest mistake was moving out of my parents house the first chance I got
I could be living the dream, no rent, no expenses, just help around the house and save up money

now I'm just another wageslave living pay check to pay check, blowing away my money and hoping I get a promotion soon or at least a raise so I can MAYBE put myself in debt to the bankingjew and (((((buy))))) a decent house in a decent neighbourhood to raise my kid

>>139484007
Personally, I believe that we will have ww3.
So, my efforts will be wasted.

Fuck it.

I'll move out when the market isn't fucked. I'm not working a full time job so I can barely afford to live in a small ass apartment that I hate.

I'd rather suck up the shame and have disposable income at home.

The family structure is failing.

The ultimate goal is to abolish it completely.
Children would be the property of the state until they come off age and we will assign them educations that match their intellectual capabilities.

Independence would slowly and gradually be introduced to people by assigning them special living quarters so that by the time they are 18, each person will have all the basic skills necessary to survive on their own.

Those who cannot will be culled.

>>139478269
This faggot and his (you)s are the problem with todays generation. Crippling anxiety? Moving out makes you grow up fast its either survive and adapt or fall on your face.

>>139484279
If ww3 doesnt happen by March then it probably wont happen within our lifetimes.

>>139484358
>
Children would be the property of the state until they come off age and we will assign them educations that match their intellectual capabilities.

Hate to break it to you, but that's basically it. Public school is nothing but advanced day care.

>>139483321
>but at 32 you aren't courting 16 year old bitches anymore, the youngest is probably 18. By then you don't seem to be more well off than that 20 year old that's still renting.

Women date older men. That's a nearly universal truth. The mere fact that he's older will increase his odds.

>>139484417
>"AAAARGH!! WHY WON'T THESE LAZY MILLENIALS PULL THEMSELVES UP BY THERE BOOTSTRAPS AND BY MY OVERPRICED MCMANSION?!?!?"

T. Baby Boomer

>>139484463
It will happen in the next few years.

>>139484500
Children are still mainly with their parents during their most important years, early childhood.

While many parents are capable and ensure what's best for their children, many are not fit to be good parents and slowly detoriate their child's potential.

Abolishing the family structure is what would ultimately make our society more equal and meritocratic.

>>139482977
God I fucking hate Chink investors.

Literally buying countries from under native feet.

>tfw 22 with a well paying full time job
>tfw still live with my mom and help out with the bills
>tfw fresh food, clean clothes and affection every day
>tfw some broke as fuck 18 years old amerifat 40k dollars in debt who lives in a repurposed garage for 800$ a month tries to make fun of me for not living by myself
>tfw net worth of 10k euros, growing every day
Loving every laugh

>>139484769
A state's main goal should be care for their own citizens. The fact that so many western governments are greedy and create a market that caters to the obscenely wealthy foreign investors is extremely damaging longterm.

This is an act of treason, essentially. They are ruining the future of an entire generation.

>>139484758
>wanting to live in a brave new world-esq society

>>139484500
This.
Already 80% done, especially with their recent push for daycares that basically already snatch them out of the crib.

>ensure that costs of living are too high for most people to cover them with a single income
>they now have the problem that they cannot afford children
>"""generously""" provide them with a way to hand their child over to permanent state supervision so they can slave away during the day
>they gladly welcome it

They are already pretty far into using humans like cattle. Wouldn't surprise me if one of the next pushes is to drastically limit the availability of private transportation to force more people into the cities and thus increase their costs of living.

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I'm 23 and Iv already got my own apartment and wife.
Job pays Ridiculously well, and I get gibs in the downtime. However there are some things I won't do. The only way to beat the jew is to not play their game.
>don't buy things you can't afford, no credit cards, only debit cards and cash.
>stay out of the credit market.
>no debt if possible
>no car or car insurance, take the bus or ride a bike or uber.
>don't bother with a house, (this wont happen without being roped into the credit scam anyways). You can get a large apartment or ect.

>>139484798
That's nice but I still think you Italians live with your mothers for too long. I kind of envy you at the same time though. It's never been the way of Nordic people however.

tfw no Italian mom that gives you 5 cooked meals every day

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>>139469558
You should be booted as soon as you turn 19.
I left for basic 7 days after my 19th birthday and honestly should have as soon as I graduated High School.
You will not grow up if you are not forced to.

>>139469558
Don't be a loser and you can stay until you get married. As it should be.

>>139469558
After you have finished high school

>>139469558
I moved out of my parents age at 34. They're rich so why bother?

>>139484769

>Chinese millionaire desperately trying to escape his piece of shit tyrannical government.
>offers you a shitton of money for your home. Way more than the fair market price most likely if you negotiate
>take your money, pay a construction company to build you a new house. Is Canada in danger of running out of land?
>dillute market of housing and effectively screw the chinese guy over.

Why is this a problem?

I for one, live with my grandparents. I live in Norwalk, CA. They have a garage converted cottage in the back of the house with a nice, big backyard. I've been living here since 22 (now 31). I've worked at a plastic processing plant for 10 years. Started at $34k a year, to now $61k. I've lived here rent-free the whole time while of course helping out w/everything. This house will be mine and I've saved about a good 60%ish of my income for the last 12 years. I plan to retire at 35 and work at my part-own liquor store/minimart part-tme, while venturing in different avenues of investing/owning ways to generate income.
I implore you guys to save as much, while hopefully living rent-free/low cost of living with relatives.
>>139478700
No sir, well... Here in SoCal (note, I'm a spic and out standards are not too extravagant in financial security) it's not hard to date/obtain relationship if you have a decent amount of disposal income and a vehicle. Even Mexican Stacies here (Marias) that are 8/10, you'll see, drive a beat up vehicle.

>>139484769
>I can't compete

That's all I'm hearing bro

>>139485125
My parents were awful people who were never supposed to have kids. I moved out of their shithole when I was 16 and I'm now doing ok for myself and have a middle class income with most of my needs satisfied.

I see the advantages my middle class and a few upper middle class friends have had in their lives by simply having parents who cared for them. Your parents are one of the main predictors of your success.

>>139485303
>I was able to move out back when an entry level job could pay the mortgage for a house

Moved out at 17 in 2001.
Rent was so cheap back then it was possible to live a comfortable life sharing with a few other people.

>>139484608
yes but older men only works to a point. Late start, because, my savings, means you're still competing with men that are younger than you but still older than the cuties. All while you appear to be on their same level. Yes you can get the younger cuties but not before you actually have your own life and place. Absolutely no quality woman would choose an older guy living with mom than a younger guy on his own all other things being the same.

>>139485458
>Why is this a problem?

Because thanks to regulations you can't just build endless amounts of property. And even if those regulations disappeared, you still need proper infrastructure in that area.

Also most of those chinks don't even try to move there, it's just a way to hide embezzled money and let it accrue some profits.

>>139485578
I moved out in 2005, go fuck yourself projector.

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>>139478269
good luck!

>>139478269
god speed brother, we're all gonna make it.

>>139469667
I did this. Moved out At 31.

But was working my ass off since 16 and saving every buck. By the time i moved out i had bought a comfy house.

>>139479424
>>139480111
Greek women have higher hair density than my asshole

>>139485458
>Chinese millionaire desperately trying to escape his piece of shit tyrannical government.
You mean investing his money into assets that the chinese government can't reclaim.
>offers you a shitton of money for your home. Way more than the fair market price most likely if you negotiate
And this is good how? He has no intention of ever selling it. That house is effectively now just decoration.
>take your money, pay a construction company to build you a new house. Is Canada in danger of running out of land?
You can't just do that around here, dude.
>dillute market of housing and effectively screw the chinese guy over.
That implies you could compete with ill gotten commiebux.

>>139482571
There is also the situation of getting the boot right after high school and your family members telling you to figure it out. They feel inconvienced and helping you will show the rest of the family that you are enabling him to not be a man or be an adult. Right now I got a stable decent paying job with a 2 bedroom and bath rent and still able to save and have small spending money. My brother just recently moved in to help pay the bills because they did the same thing to him. I'm currently showing him what I learned through my hardship and giving him a helping hand so he could start out doing well unlike my selfish shithead family that gave me or him zero advice and told me to figure it out. Best revenge is to live well and start your own family then remember those who helped you or did not help you when the chips were down and it was the lowest you have ever been.

>>139486017
Are you sure? I thought that was mainly Turks

>>139469558
If you're still at home after 20 you need to get out, if your still living there after 25 you're fucked

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Worked since age 14, saved a lot of it while living with parents. By age 18 I had 12 grand saved so I bought a 40k house (this was In 2003) that was in shit condition. Renovated it all on my own and sold it just as the local beach market was starting to boom. Made 30 grand on the sale in addition to the 35 grand I made working many overtines that year. Bought two more houses that same year at age 19. Worked my nutsack off on both of them plus my job again. Made 95K at age 19-20. Now I'm 32 and I own three very nice rental properties with 500K in my retirement account.

Cheap as fuck property taxes and low government regulation make it easy. If you live in America and you're not making money on your own you're doing it wrong. Money grows on trees in this country. You just have to not be a faggot, go outside, and grab it.

>>139485722

The regulations part I dont understand other than greedy real estate companies wanting it that way to keep supply artificially low. Even still, taking huge pay outs for Chinese guys to get around their capital flight laws isnt the problem. The problem is they dont make enough homes to reduce the costs.

>>139486070
>ill gotten
what a load of moralfaggotry

>>139486017
So? That's hot. If anything too many of them remove it all.

>>139469558
Your question reveals a deep rooted flaw in the logic of modern existence. The nuclear family is a modern construct. The true Redpill is multigenerational extended families sharing a large estate.

>>139469829
>bring a girl home before marriage
Snow niggers have no souls

>>139486182
Wow sounds great dude, I'm jealous desu

>>139486070

>cant just build new homes

Thats a political problem. Canada is fucking huge. Why dont you do something about your shitty zoning and construction laws in the local area and encourage more construction of affordable housing? Chinese trying to park millions if not billions of dosh in your country should be a godsend.

>>139486382
You never had sex before marriage or what? I know it's not optimal but these days it's pretty much a given if you want to get a girl

I think i'll move out when i'm 30~33, no reason to move out before that.

>>139485229
>and wife.
Prepare to lose your money

>>139486612
Sounds like monkey bussiness

>>139476558
>>139476974
>>139478870
Don't you people think it's degrading to live with mommy and daddy for that long?

>>139478899
Fucking this

>>139469558
18

>>139486140
Modern Turk are just Greeks that were raped and made to think they were Turks and the Greeks were raped by Turkish occupation for 200 years. Basically they are the same people.
>>139486279
yeah, like the greeks you Germans love it when your """girls""" have more armpit hair than the men

>>139475909
>You don't wanna live with Mom and dad goy, come spend half your monthly paycheck on one of our nice new luxury apartments.

>>139486826
I'm a serious monkey i'll tell you that much

>>139469667
Moved out at 18, off the parent tit at 19. Military helps a lot but really there are many ways to make it happen if actually turn the xbox off and work. Finding another person just takes pressure off of both of you. That being said while I am on and off orders I am helping my parents around the house. Ready to move out as soon as SHE comes into my. No point in paying (((Them))) and save up so you may not have to take a loan from (((them))) as well. Just dont be a lazy couch fuck really.

>>139486988
Isn't it uncomfortable to live with your parents until the age of 30 though? Or do you have a bigass house

>>139486844
>Don't you people think it's degrading to live with mommy and daddy for that long?

Has it ever crossed your mind that alot of these guys might not have a choice?

>>139486234
>The regulations part I dont understand other than greedy real estate companies wanting it that way to keep supply artificially low.

Depending on the country it has all kinds of influences, especially environmental protection laws. In Germany, the city needs to provide a certain amount of space reserved for nature in exchange for every sqm they use as building space.

But
>The regulations part I dont understand other than greedy real estate companies wanting it that way to keep supply artificially low
is definitely one very strong influence. What do you think will happen when you let rich investors from abroad buy up your property? That they just sit on their asses and watch you devaluing it again a couple months to years later?
They'll heavily lobby for policies that ensure that their investment will accrue further value. And they have the funds to do so, or otherwise they wouldn't have been able to start buying up significant parts of your country's property to begin with.

It's a problem that can only be solved by keeping them completely out of the market to begin with. The moment they have a foot in the door they'll ensure that it remains a profitable investment for them.

>>139486844
>being with your family is degrading
>unnecessarily paying rent to schlomo makes you a big man
Good goy

>>139487058
swarthy people love their kids more than cold nordics

>>139486315
Unironically this. It was the norm throughout human history.

>>139486470
>Why dont you do something about your shitty zoning and construction laws in the local area and encourage more construction of affordable housing?
Muh environmentalism

>>139487058
I live in a 3 floor house and is pretty much impossible to move out if your parent's don't have a spare 500k to give you. On top of that i'm still at uni

>>139486778
>Oy vey, all women are sluts goy. Look at all the race mixing propaganda we produce. Isn't that proof enough of how things are in the real world?

>>139477813
Sure, if you have a clear path where you can get on with a good firm, improve your skills and ultimately better money then no problem moving and renting. Just remember to save.

>>139481336
A homeowner

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I'm going to really try to move out once I finish University. I cannot work enough hours in some shit job to sustain myself while also managing classes, I will blow my fucking brains out if I have to do that.

>>139486844
Honest, mid to late 20s, wasnt even slightly embarrassed despite having plenty of pals renting, buying homes. I was grafting, saving and getting to do plenty of things other friends couldnt afford.

When i turned 30, aye, kind of felt it was time to move out, and i did just that.

>>139469558
Any.
As long as you can afford it.

>>139469558
I don't know, nobody cares about that here, plenty of people move out of their house when they get married, some when they need to study in a different city but other than that very few people move out just because they can afford it (and let's face it, very few people here can)

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20 y/o NEET living at home. Shit is turning me insane.

>>139484798
lel i havent worked one day in my life and already have more net worth, btw iam 19.

your still doing good senpai continue grindin

>>139489461
there are neets in this very thread who have done thousands more days than you and are still going. being a NEET is not much different than being in a norweigan prison. maybe you technically have freedom to go out and do anything in the world, but locks on your mind's doors prevent you anyway. and you will join us if you don't leave home soon.

>>139469558
I moved out after 2 years post college when I had 25k in the bank and my school payed off. I thought life was supposed to be hard...such a big meme. People spend too much money on dumb shit

>>139490246
Rich parents or what?

I'm 26 and will stay until 30. I'm saving money and have been since I was 15. No wife, no kids, just me and my money.

nobody I know is moving anywhere without roommates, and to be honest id rather just live with my mom and save the rent money.

Moved out at 18, took a part time job to pay for uni. Graduated yesterday!

>>139494604
Congrats man :D

>>139469558
I moved out at 21 when I got married.

>>139476062
They young guys i work with that are moved out work two jobs and are poor as fuck. They'll be working like that till the day they die. I'm living at home as long as possible.

I'm 25 and living with my mother. No fucks given, I'm buying a house next year while all the cucks who moved out are paying off their foreign landlords 2nd/3rd/4th/5th mortgages

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>>139483514

Hey, that's when I became sexually active!

> Now I see all sex as degenerate.

21.

>>139469667
Came here to post this.

>>139477107
This.

>>139469558
lots of manchildren on this board. Move out when you are ready to be a man

>>139469558
Whenever you can afford it desu

>>139496134
>yes move out goy
>stay in poor and in debt goy
>the poorer the goyim the more control we have

>>139475360
WRONG my cousin is quasi homeless and has always gotten hot gurls even when he lived at his parents. Now he got a girl pregnant and wifed while he still doesn't have a place to live. His hygiene standards are well bellow average. Even lowest effort alphas can get chicks without being "providers". The most alpha men don't even provide, they just have their women take care of them.

>>139486604
>it's pretty much a given if you want to get a girl
Wrong,

From this thread and IRL, I've seen that moving out early, in the 18-23 category, actually forces you to be successful.
The more years I spend with my parents the more comfortable I get, the more frustrated I get, the more depressed I get.

I'm 26, JUST got my B.S., been looking for work all summer, got a lot of connections but most of them are in the Gay Area so fuck that.

I will be moving out in a couple months and rent a room at my friend's newly built house. So far I project it to be a little under half my income unless I can get a full time job by then. I just can't handle my fucking father anymore.

I truly believe once I experience living on my own and having independence will invigorate me. I should have done it earlier. I should have never went to university.

>>139483575
option 3: be a manchild and live at home. You never grow up and never find a wife. The end

>>139496443
moving out forces you to realize the value of a dollar and to be self-sufficient. You are still a child if you live with your parents regardless of age. It should be socially unacceptable to be a manchild because it allows people to avoid talking about the fact the jews fucked the economy so hard that we have an entire generation of indebted manchildren

>>139497237
Lel, so many retarded plebs, do you really think girls won't go out with you because you live with mommy? all the hot girls love the debt slaves!

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>>139496674
you were just given a glimpse at reality
how did it feel

>>139497073
>I just can't handle my fucking father anymore.
he probably has similar feelings since you are living at home at 26

>>139469558

24 or 25 was when I was totally out, I think

>>139497237

>can't find a sugar mama on WoW

low effort

>>139497526
you can move out without being a debt slave and women are not interested to hang out in your parent's basement

>>139497237
Real option 3:
>move out when you're financially stable and don't need to get a minimum wage job just to support your rent
oh shit

>>139497073
If I never got into drugs and alcohol heavily, I never would of gotten kicked out. It's lucky I got clean-ish, and only that happened because my stomach's all fucked up.
But I'm on my own. Job. Woman.

>>139497823

Some of them are, generally not the kind of women you want to be interested in though.

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>>139469558
I got kicked out at 24 for good. But now at 27 I have my own two bedroom apartment. Everybody at a certain age must go through the trails of suffering for our own personal independence. No matter how old or long it takes. We all have to find it at some point.

>>139497471
FUCK OFF
you are shilling for a system that only certain people are forced to pay for
everyone else TAKES from this system, and the worst part is they can VOTE for more and more and more>>139497572
=====================
you are either a woman or a young male

>>139497073

Well go be your own man, anon.

>>139497997
>commie is angry at his own failures so he trashes a room and smears some graffiti on the wall
deep...

>>139469558
between 16 and 20.

>>139497824
I'm not denying it's difficult but being a manchild is a waste of your limited youth. We need to bully people for being manchildren so jewish tricks are exposed. The manchild epidemic is a result of denial of the jewish problem

>>139497823
>living in the country on a farm
>mum's basement hurr durr
Strawman, lol

>>139498258
>Not being a jewish sucker = being a manchild
seriously?
Go throw your money down the drain in the form of rent asshole, at least you won't be a manchild

>>139482571
Exactly.

In Canada, the housing market is absolutely fucked by the chinks, jews and boomers.

Everything is overpriced/inflated. If some boomer retard thinks that they are going to get someone to pay a quarter million for their shitty, ugly 1970s bungalow, they have another thing coming.

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>>139469558
No shit. An apartment that costed 10 000 leva 20 years ago now costs 200 000. And that's for an apartment in the stereotypical ugly commieblock. Now couple that with a 50% unemployment rate amont young adults here and their tendency to work borderline slave labor minimum wage (100€/month) jobs and you get the idea.

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>>139498223
>so deep.

>>139498050
I am a young male living on my own and not a manchild. Don't lash out at me, the jew run federal reserve is the reason you are a manchild living at home. What will you do about it?

>>139484798
I'm Italian and live with my Nonna. Nothing is better then the affection from a traditional Italian woman who spoils me everyday.

Anglo scum will never know these feels because they're cold people.

>>139498427
if living at home is socially unacceptable people will be forced to examine and contemplate predatory jewish economic practices

>>139498405
if you want to be a hipster fag living in a multicultural urban area I have no sympathy for you

>>139498544
>>139498680
There's literally nothing wrong with multi-generational property ownership and healthy familial ties into adulthood. You don't need a rent-a-box to figure out that our societies fucked.

>>139498666
Then why you in an Anglo country. God I hate the logic of shitskins.

>>139498747
What the fuck are you even taking about

>>139469558
I originally moved out at 20, moved back when I was 24 and just moved out again at 27.

I don't think there's anything wrong with living with your parents as long as you're not a burden on them and you contribute.

>>139497583
Most definitely, he wanted to kick me out way earlier, but after warning so much and not actually kicking me out, he gave up cuz he's a pussy.
Still love the faggot, but he's the typical obese food binging weed smoking boomer.

>>139498822
That might be true if you are non-white. If you want to be white then it's probably best to move out and slay the dragon

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>kick children out as soon as they turn 18
>shame them if they stay
>get abandon in your old age and are poorly taken care of
This culture needs to stop.

You can say all you want about mexicans but you don't see any abuelitas in this picture.

>>139498066
I'm starting to, it feels good.

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Kill the boomers and take their homes.

>>139487830
what major?

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>>139480017
25, but same. I bring girls over to my parents house all the time. My ex girlfriend would eat dinner with us, then stay the night in my bed all the time. I feel bad for you fuckers with parents that hate you and force you out.
>tfw fingerbanging your gf with one hand and covering her mouth with the other while your parents sleep in the next room
It's bretty gud times. I'll let my son do the same shit.

I don't plan on moving out until I can buy my own house. Probably around the time I'm 30, maybe 32.

>>139469558
18 if you're extremely ambitious. 21 if you're normal. And 24 is you intend to be financially secure.

One year older is loserville.

>>139499109
I dated a mexican chick, her family had multiple instances of cousins living with their girlfriends/boyfriends in the house with their grandmothers. I couldn't understand that, it seems so awkward.

>>139499109
after the boomers die off we can address this issue

I'm 25 and moved back home after finishing university and finding a job in my hometown.
I don't believe in renting for the sake of it and would rather save for my own house.

>>139499215
>t.manchild

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>>139469558
When you can afford it. I love my parents but I couldn't stand living with them past 18, as much as I loved having my meals cooked for me and shit, I moved out as soon as I got an income high enough to support myself. My parents borderline spied on my when I was growing up, I wanted my own privacy, furthermore my Mother was overprotective and she too often relied upon me to act like the "man of the house" because my Dad worked so many hours and I got sick of it, I got sick of feeling responsible for everything going on in the household when I was only a kid and that is what ultimately drove me out, I got sick of my parents worry so much about me if I so much as talked in a tone of voice that was so slightly off that I didn't even notice.

Just be thankful if you have parents that actually act like parents most of the time, mine didn't even teach me how to fucking drive, didn't teach me to shave, let my teeth rot out when I was 10 because I didn't want to brush them, had to teach myself fucking everything.

>>139498836
Because Italians came to Canada and made it great. Italian families are healthier then Anglo families. Anglo's have been bombarded with ZOG cultural marxist propaganda longer then Italians.

Whytebois don't even sit down to have dinner with their families. Wtf kind of degeneracy is that? Olive skinned Italians are superior and you know it. Even if my blood is slightly tainted by moors, It's all good because we wuz romans and having 80 percent roman and 20 percent moor genes is still better then being some gaul/saxon barbarian.

I moved out at 17, started a record label and studied coding. Now make 65 figures and work just 6 months a year. Learn to earn and you will never need your useless boomer parents other then to know what not to do.

>>139469558
haha. Sweden, come on... You should move out when 18. Your own fault that you have done a crappy house building job for 40+years.

Brinkeby is nice tho. Build more of them clusters.

>>139499304
mexicans take it to an extreme yes, there should be a balance though

>>139499109
>2 ft of water
> lights are on
> electrical outlets underwater
> still alive...
>?

>>139469667
Fuck of loser. I moved out when I was 17. Only stayed back at parents for a month when I was 24, in between places, waiting for a move in date at a house I was waiting to rent.
Man up. Don't be a loser.

>>139499109
man what is with the lefty invasion posting with lefty flags all over the place

I moved out when I was 14, lived with my sister for two and got my own place at 16
Ïf you're over 18 and living with your parents you will never amount to anything

>>139469558
>What is a suitable age to move out of your parents house?
None. It is suitable to get kicked out at 18 or go to college to be kicked out upon completion of your meme degree

t:Kicked out at 18 and was the best thing to ever happen. Dad was right.

Over 2 decades after dad told me it was for my own good, he was still right. I was forced to learn self reliance and finances very quickly. in a sink or swim situation a survivor will tread water. The real deal quickly learns to walk on the water.

>>139499109
Plenty of us left of our own accord, my parents wanted me to stay, I left anyway. In fact I'd argue most people that move out on their own at 18/19 move out because their families are intolerable, not because they get "kicked out".

>>139499647
desu I just like using flag that others don't use. /pol/ gets too butthurt about actual flags.

>>139489461
Just get a fucking job Sven you stupid nigger loving faggot, go to a restaurant and wash dishes, do something.

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>>139499544
>>139499304
They do that because most of the time they are illegals and fleeing from the cops

>>139499486
Not reading your shitposting

>>139479620
Just be rich bruh

>lived with parents till 18
>moved away for college till 20
>lived with parents till 25
>am 27 now, moving back in because lost my job, will move back out when I am retrained in webdev

I actually have over 75k in profits thanks to cryptos (look into Monero), but I don't wanna touch that unless some financial apocalypse hits.

I'm looking forward to moving back in with them in a month, actually. No more blowing $800/month on rent for someone unrelated to me. It won't hurt my social life, and I want to get more fit and all that shit before I start dating again. So 6 months or so should be great.

This societal hangup on moving out asap, even if it is to your financial detriment, (and the betterment of landlord jews) needs to die. Independence is important, absolutely. But don't fuck yourself financially long-term just to have a bachelor pad to engage in degeneracy in.

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>>139499439
>25
>bachelor's degree
>$25K in savings and growing every day
>parents who adore me and don't want me to struggle
>no bills besides my own credit card
>will be able to buy home with cash in a few years because Midwest master race
What's it like knowing manchildren like me are 10x better than you at everything you attempt? You can't even hurt my feelings, Brandon.

Paying rent for mah place at home. Nothing better. I looked around the market and it makes me cringe, the money you throw out is a disgrace over here with rent.

Better stay home, assemble some money, give some to dad/mom and be able to buy out your own place.

>>139469558

25 here, i could live on my own, but my folks are sick and i need to be around to take care of them.

in a different situation though, i'd say if you didn't go to college, you should be out by 18. if you did go to college, after completion you could stay for a couple months or until you find a place of your own

>>139500699

this. the financial feasibility of living rent-free coupled with a good job is the best

>>139500589
>only rich people support themselves and live independently

>>139481297
>what are siblings

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>>139469558
>What is a suitable age to move out of your parents house?
If you're a man and heir? Never. Maybe only temporarily for college.

For a girl - when she is married.

>>139469558

Depends on wealth and size of residence and grounds. Sometimes never. Sometimes before legal emancipation.

>>139486604
>>139497029
THIS! Fucking degenerates having sex. Sex is disgusting and degenerate as fuck.

>>139469558
I waited until they both died and now it's my house. I played the long game.

>>139496674
Yes one guy did it so everybody can. Getting any old girl is not what I'm talking about. I'm talking quality. You count a woman that marries a dirty bum as quality? Would you want his wife as yours. Absolutely no QUALITY cutie would choose a guy living in his mom's house, over someone who has his own place, all other things being equal.

Moved out and was renting with no assistance at 18, in one of the most expensive cities to live in the world.

Just don't be a tard and get into IT. It's easy money as long as you aren't a complete idiot, with no post secondary required.

>>139499810

Just remember to return the same favour of philosophy when he needs more care than he can give himself. It will be for his own good to relearn life at 80.

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>>139504887
My mom died a couple years ago, so I moved back in with my dad since he has no other immediate family around here. He's already had one minor stroke and he's pre-diabetic, won't be too much longer now.

>>139505184
Be careful with IT. Some areas are dying quickly.

E.g. don't be a sysadmin or anything like that.