mobile bugout bag or stationary emergency food rations?

>>138827181
mobile always mobile

why ax and hatchet and machete instead of kukri? where's the first aid kit? a shotgun, seriously?

>>138827313
this

>>138827181
Both faggot

>>138827181
Depends,

If you're in a large city, then mobile.
If other you want to hold down the fort.

>>138827566
i live close to a big city.

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>>138827181
Lose the hatchet. Carry at least three bic lighters. You should probably use a rifle instead of a shotgun; a .270 would be a good choice for utility. Carry hearing protection. Life Straw is weak. There are better options for just as cheap. You need a tarp or space blanket. Maybe think about some more cord and heavy thread. Get a small, plastic container with dividers and pack in that thing a sewing kit, a fishing kit, and whatever other little things you'd like to have. If you want to carry a second bag in case that's possible, you should pack a good wool blanket.

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>>138827181
Daily reminder that if you're filling a bugout bag full of food and camping supplies, you're really building a refugee bag.

>>138827181
Replace the shotgun with an a short barrel AR. Remove the smaller hatchet. Looks good.

>>138827181
If you're just now getting around to putting together your first bugout bag, you are WAY behind and probably too late.

>>138828339
no, i put one together before but i lost it during a fire.

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>>138827181
>Not even a BaoFeng UV-5RA communication system.

How not to survive 101.

>>138828266
Yup. Better to have and not need.

>>138828406
Hanz?

guys
does anyone of you know of a mobile hand crankable mobile radio or something.

knoife
rope
beans
canteen
that's all you need. make spears ASAP

What does one need to treat a gunshot wound?

>>138828175
this guy survives

>>138827181
>meme knife sharpener
>meme water filter
don't know about the other stuff in pic, but probably meme-tier also

>>138828584
Due to your flag, I'm not telling.

>>138828584
Tampons or a tourniquet

I remember watching the New Orleans disaster and thinking of how stupid you'd have to be to not just spend a day walking away from that mess.

>bug out bag pictured
No toilet paper? Gross!

>>138827181
you forgot a first aid kit, dipshit

>>138828432
>UV-5RA
+1
Good radio. Worth way more that the price would suggest

>>138828545
Kaito Voyager KA600. Will pick up global shortwave with an external longwire (about 20 Euros), is crank and solar and can charge other equipment.

>>138827181
No cooking tools or water purification tablets for your food. No tarp and hammock for shelter. You will be cold,wet and hungry.

>>138828730
i need something with a long range like a pro hand held radio. at least multiple miles. like something that field radios in ww2 were like.

>>138828175
this.

don't get caught up in the muh weaponz narrative. you need shit that will save your life, not a fucking armory. Get things for shelter, warmth, water purification and disease prevention.

>>138828719
PITA to program without the USB adapter and CHIRP. Just bought two more because I found them for $36 with TWO batteries, the USB adapter, a 16 inch whip, car and wall chargers, and hand mics.

>Bugout
To where? Away from your shelter, community, supplies and ammo?

>>138829018
Not everyone lives in a rural area.

>>138828709
Nah m8 ur blind

You guys are going to pack a ton of shit that you won't be able to carry long distances.
OP, just do some research from legit sites. Since you are bugging out, plan multiple routes out to your rally point and alt-rally point. Actually go to those places and live out of your bag for a few days. Don't just buy shit that you don't even know why you need it, put it in a tacticool bag and throw it in a closet. Waterproof your gear and avoid anything that requires batteries or electric source, as batteries are heavy and run out and you don't know if the power will be off from there on out.

OP is a bigtime faggot for using that pic

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>>138828175
>>138827181

>>138828175
>rifle over a shotgun


you dont know what youre talking about fool

>>138829239
oh shit anon you're right, muh bad. i have eye fry and a hangover.

>>138827181
The survive the Third World War forvever starter pack

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How far from Polish/Czech border do you live?
Backpack might not be enough if you live far.

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>>138827181

Mobile.
If you lack something just kill everything that stands between you and loot.

This is also mandatory for comfyness :
https://www.bioliteenergy.com/products/energy-bundle

>>138829672

>skinwalker

What the fuck is that

>>138830231
Skywalker's canibal cousin.

A lighter? That's cute.
Have fun after one single rain.

>>138827181
Both.

My wife and kids can survive forever in /deep woods/. We have stashspots and shelters along a natural loop that can be navigated in rotation longer than our lifespans.

>>138827181
If you're gonna bring 3 axes you shouldn't forget to pack a fedora too

>>138830231
browse /x] shits pretty spoopy

>>138827181
>no Swiss army knife
>meme survival knife
>no whetstone
You're better off if you pack a normal hunting knife with smooth edges and a BW Swiss army knife. That multitool won't help you much, you're better off with a stronger combined plier. Sfork? Are you going to the gay survivalists' annual meeting? A field cutlery kit is your friend. Lifestraw is useless, pack a box of water disinfectant pastilles. Bin the spray can, you can buy repellent gel as well. No bandages? Most importantly: pack a bar soap, it can literally save your life.

>>138827181
Level 3 bag pack, nice.

>>138827181
>all that gerbershit
>machete, multitool, hatchet and some extremely gay tomahawk crowbar
Get a small folding saw (lapplander, silky), one chopper and one cutter. If you have a machete and a multitool you don't really need a big knife, if you have a knife and a hatchet you don't need a machete etc

>>138830086
I think you might have forgot to pack your Constitution.

>>138830395
/thread

>>138827181
if dayz tough me anything that you will be mugged at the first corner because of the look of the bag
I would rather buy unsispicious black backpack and spraypaint it grey a little so it looks dirty and used from afar

>>138831106
>Most importantly: pack a bar soap, it can literally save your life.
This, you don't want to be that guy that dies just because he got some small cuts and then fell into a pool of dirty water.

Whats wrong with multitools though? They are better then swiss army knifes imo, at least the good ones.

>>138827181
Get rid of shotgun, small axe and shitty multitool. Add swiss army knife, first aid kit and ration packs.

>>138827181
Antibiotics and pain killers

>>138831407
>if dayz tough me anything that you will be mugged at the first corner because of the look of the bag
This, get an old surplus bag, western countries that have or had conscription are all great and indestructible. You can pimp it out with better straps and paddings if you want.

>>138827181
Replace the pistol and shotgun with a 9mm carbine and the gerbershit with real tools

>>138830231
i would not worry about it anon lets keep this thred up tho cmon all weeeee can all go inwoods togather
=)

OP here.
>all these retards commenting on my bugout bag pic

guys seriously, it was just a random bob pic i used.
jesus christ you autists.

>>138831629
small radio, roll up tarp for quick tent or cover ground for sleeping

>>138831904
You say that until you need it an all you have is that picture. Don't need one for WWIII, how about a local flood or wild fire.

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>>138831904
You are the retard here mate, you know this place is full of autism and if you don't got a good pic you should just post some qt asian to draw people into your thread.

Or your just a newfag

This is the first bug out bag pic from google and its infintely better then the shit you posted.
>medical kit
>axe instead of hatchet
>rifle
>slingshot for small game
>tarps
>jojo fish traps
decent desu. Nothing wrong with that axe either

>inb4 you can't make a new handle
Please, they put fucking handles of stones back in the day. If you can't rehandle that you are brain dead,

>>138832260
>>rifle
carbine*, fuck you

>>138827411
This

>>138827181
Duct tape? Where is your fokking duct tape? 2 axes, a machete, a knife and a multitool for extra weight? And a first aid kit the size of an average scrotum? Wtf are the priorities here?

>>138832823
Dying

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I recommend bugging in, while being mobile enough to get supplies once the masses have left/died. Moving around with all that gear is going to make you a huge target for ambush. Stay low profile

What's a recommended backpack?

>>138833463
Something without tacticool molle on it. A Jansport, a hiking backpack, or if you want something really rugged, get one of those swiss army surplus packs that are fashionable right now, those last for ever

>>138833463
Milston from countries with her manic languages. Finland is ok to

>>138833463
>>138833729
Fucking new phone. Milsurp from countries with germanic languages. Finland is ok to

>>138833544
Why not molle? You can attach stuff on it with tree roots if necessary. Metal frame with sturdy belts are essential.

>>138828339

Only fags need to prepare. When the time comes, I'll just take other peoples shit by force.

>>138831430
It might be a personal preference, but I can do almost everything with a swiss army knife and a pair of pliers and feel these tools more stable.

>>138828406

>German comedy

Rifle, ammo First Aid kit with as many antibiotics as I could stuff in there, Knife, Flint (+ lighter if I could get one), Hatchet, Tarp, Rope Duct tape, Sunscreen, Cast Iron pot, plate and cutlery, Sleeping bag, Solar Torch, Soap, Detergent. Fill the rest with camping food.

>>138834009
Draws attention to yourself as someone who "has something" Staying low profile is the best option in an emergency situation.

>>138834009
Makes you a target. Just regular straps is good enough and there isn't much point having molle if don't have molle pouches to.

>>138834130
Why the actuall fuck do u need sunscreen in an emergancy?

>>138834130
>cast iron pot
Seems kind of unnecessarily heavy

>>138833887
Shameless nationalistic promotion
>http://finn-savotta.fi/en/

>>138831904
Then why didn't you post a better pic or give a list, or ask a question about what's needed, instead you bitch like the moron you are.

>>138827181
Both. In wildfire season you could be caught outside your home and not be able to get back to it, likewise the roads could be blocked to your town and food/gas/etc won't be able to get in.

As far as mobile I keep a backpack in the car with N95 respirators, 1gal water + 500mL in a canteen, iodine tablets, first aid kit, a couple pounds of rice, soldier fuel bars and mres, lighter, matches, flashlight, block and tackle w/ chain and 100ft rope, 50ft paracord and 100ft twine, duct tape, some canvas and thermal blankets and a fixed blade knife.

>inb4 noguns
Leaving guns in a car sketches me out, this kit doesn't move from the trunk.

I'm slowly buying stuff for a bug out bag, piece by piece.

>>138827181
>bugout
You have a strange way of saying RWDS hunting season boogaloo.

>>138827181
>LARPing

>>138834309
*Stainless steel, not sure why I wrote iron,

>>138827181
>you're not fitting all of that in that bag
t. fag who's been tribe to Tetris this out for three years and is up to multiple bags

>>138834271
>>138834232
True these on second thought. We finns don't expect to see anyone when we bug out to our endless forests.

>>138834291
Maybe not in fucking Sweden, but down here you absolutely need it,

>>138834130
Also Bug spray.

>>138834555
Yeah it all depends on where you live. I have milsurp because thats common here and because innawoods. If i lived in the city i would have fjällräven kanken or some other semi decent common bag, a generic laptop backback would work to. Ofc you all ready failed if you are in the city

Mandatory:
Tarp
Rope
Sleeping bag
Soap
Bandages
Lighters
As much food as you can pack

Optional:
Iodine (if you're not near a fresh stream you're retarded)
Bug spray (man up pussy)
Compass+map (you shouldn't be in the middle of bumfuck nowhere)
Slingshot (depends where you are and how long you plan to be there)

Literally all you need. Stop overthinking it. Have any of you ever been camping before? Like real camping not 2 minutes walk from the shower?

>>138835489
Oh and a fucking knife. Goddamn how did I miss that. Maybe because it's so important it goes without saying.

>>138835668
That's edc anyway. It should be on your belt, not your bag.

>>138834514
You're overt thinking when you hit that amazon search. Get what you need for the fist several days. It's a bug out bag not what you need to live forever bag

>>138834041
Hi muhammad

>>138834041
Other people (preppers) will be armed...

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>>138827313
/thread

You want a radio scanner to know whos up to what.Information is more important than faggot-tier bugout bag.

>>138828175
Why is a rifle preferable to shotgun?
t. No Guns (feels bad man)

>>138827181
Almost anything on this picture is illegal here Hans!

Stop larping

>>138827181
Always bug in

>>138838742

Exactly, I'll just stalk you like predator until you fall asleep and shoot you in the face with your own gun.

>>138830086
Are those books used to start a fire ?

>>138841222
rife is much better for inaawoods or anything at range. shotgun is best for close quarters because of the spread pattern (buckshot is more or less multiple little bullets inside of a big bullet), but ineffective at range. a rifle also holds more rounds and is way easier to reload

Buy a tarp. Buy a cast iron pot. Go online and learn how to to make a penny stove. Lose the machete. Get a bottle of rubbing alcohol and bandages. Get some antibiotics.

>>138841222
1. Shotgun shells are really big and bulky.
2. Less range
3. Not as effective in combat
4. Slower reload

>>138842350
>cast iron pot
>carying 5 kg of dead weight just for the fucking pot
Kek, just get alu pots, idiot.

>>138842350
>Lose the machete.
Don't listen to this moron. You don't need to reload a sharp edge OP.

>>138842438
>alu
Enjoy your neural network breakdown.

>>138841872
And they also have prepper groups like I do.. Take it in turns to sleep

>>138842313
>>138842425
Thanks anons

>>138827313
depends on the scenario retard.

>>138842556

Anyone with a brain will quickly determine you are weak as you require 'the group' to survive.
They'll bide their time, slowly checking out the situation and determining the weakest link. They'll probably wait for rain or wind to help hide the noise. Picking off the easiest guy first (probably you) when the rest of your boys are having their homoerotic 'stay warm' party.

Whatever helps you sleep at night though mate.

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>>138841222
>Why is a rifle preferable to shotgun?
Shotguns are good for birds, rabbits, fighting in doors or maybe if your find yourself in a jungle. You can also use slugs to kill what ever big game you want.

A rifle is just more versatile, if you live in the US and don't have a semi automatic you are just doing it wrong. You could also get pic related if you want to be able to hunt everything with one rifle, pretty crappy against armed people though.

But there are adapters for shotguns so that you can literally shoot all the ammo you find. But then you get a really short barrel so its not a substitute for a real gun, still nice though since you can use a lot of scavenged ammo. I would probably get an AR and maybe a short side by side shotgun for use against rodents and ducks. There are also revolvers that can fire small shotgun shells, they might be good for rodent removal.

TL;DR
Semi auto is a lot more versatile. Chances are that shotguns and 12g is the most common type of weapon you will be able to find/scavenge to. Hacksaws aren't that uncommon either...

>>138842857
Ok, if SHTF try it.

>>138827181
Both.

>>138843000
There are flare guns with interchangeable/barrel adapters.

I've seen them posted around

>>138827181

both

>>138843000
nice. Sadly a spoon is probably the only defence against a hypothetical murderous tyranny we brits have.

>>138843469
Get a crossbow, some can take down an elephant and tbqh i rather be stuck with a crossbow in shtf UK with a crossbow then being in shtf US with an AR.

In the land of the of the noguns the armed man is king

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>>138827181
>>138827181
>>138827181

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>>138827181
Niether, nothing is going to hap..
>notice flag
pic related should be considered.

>>138827411
The first aid kit isbthe small yellow zip up bag to the right, but yeah he dead if he's more than scuffed up

>>138844339
As if the Mudslimes would let him use that.
They are going in dry

>>138844429
Savages.

>>138827181
>shitty water filtration method
and more importantly
>no fucking cookware

try again

>>138843192
>There are flare guns with interchangeable/barrel adapters.
Yeah, that might be something to throw in your car or boat (its good to have flare gun either way) but they are pretty heavy and the barrel length is short as fuck so you don't get much out of them unless you're shooting 20g, 12g or pistol rounds. For a bob i rather carry a 22. lr and a bottle with 500 rounds of 22. lr

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>>138828175
>lose the hatchet but carry the machete
>suggesting a rifle over a shotgun
>suggested wool instead of nylon-cotton
>>138842313
>shotgun is best for close quarters
>rifle is easier to reload

If you listen to these no-guns tards you deserve what's coming.

If you're going out quick:
Bring a medkit with iodine and disinfectant, suture kit, bandages. Bring parachute cord.
If you bring a fire-arm you will NEED a cleaning kit for it. Do not bring a fire-arm that you don't know how to repair and maintain. Bring as much ammunition as you can carry in a deep pocket. Bring a strong, preferably full-tang knife that you could reasonably use to skin and gut with.

Packing heavy?
Bring a sturdy folding shovel, bring your ammunition and firearm, bring a compass, bring a lighter and a flint starter, bring your medkit and ample iodine and disinfectant. Bring a hatchet. Bring two tarps and ample parachute cord. If you have MREs take 3 for each person in your group. These MREs are to be used as rations, use them as a last resort if you cannot find food.
If you have the know-how, bring seeds for fruits and vegetables. It is harder to come by vitamin C in some climates and scurvy is a realistic danger, keep that in mind when planning your bags.

Your enemies in the wilderness are hunger, shelter, and decay. It is extremely easy to set up a lasting shelter and provide yourself.

If you can use your vehicle use the extra storage space for water, soap, toothpaste, and toilet paper. Some "survivalists" will scoff at these, and those same survivalists will be the ones you have over a barrel for such luxuries when time becomes dire.

>>138845626
I forgot, a shotgun is the best fire-arm you can have in any situation. It's extremely versatile and efficient. Go look up the mortality rate on buckshot.

Despite what video games and movies will have you believe, 00 buckshot has a maximum effective range of just over 100 yards. That's more than enough for anything you will need. Foster type rifled slugs are the best for hunting.


For a handgun stick with revolvers, they're easier to service and less prone to issue. The more moving parts something has the more maintenance it requires. I would recommend .38 or .44, especially if you're new to firearms, but it's down to personal preference.

Regardless of what you take always take something to maintain it with, because if you don't then you just brought a heavy piece of useless shit to be discarded after a week.

>>138827181
>yfw Europe loses power and a billion Africans and a billion Middle Easterners/South Asians take over the continent

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>>138829672
>just wears clogs

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>>138827181
One thing no one mentions.
ALWAYS test you bugout loadout. Do a hiking trip with a SHTF scenario you think is feasible and requires bugout. It is best way to find what items do you lack, limits of packing weight you can practical carry and reliability of your gear.

>>138846472

This is your fault, low IQ, yank fuck. Europeans built the world over thousands of years and you've destroyed EVERYTHING in only 300 years. Everything wrong with the world boils down to your incompetence as a country. You're worse than Germany.

The sooner this cancer kills itself the better the world will be and we can get back to putting peoples of the world in camps.

>>138828584
Training mostly.

>>138829840
>bolt action hunting rifle over a shotgun with a 12 inch barrel, no stock, and Railz™ with nothing on them

If that were a full length waterfowl gun you might have a point. But it's not, so you don't.

>>138842857

tell us more about these "stay warm parties" you brits are into?

What are you idiots planning for? A zombie apocalypse?

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>>138827181
Both. Stocking extra food is cheap to do and is more likely to come in handy. Bugging out is a last ditch option usually, but if you have to you better be prepared or you are fucked.
Don't forget to scan all your important documents and put them on an encrypted flash drive. Proving who you are, where you lived, what you owned to the gov and insurance company is critical. Keep it offsite if possible, perhaps at a relative's house.
It's fun to think about making a go-bag for the end of the world, but it's much more likely that you will experience an extended power outage or be displaced by a some type of disaster. Spend your money accordingly.

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>>138827181
Small house in the mountains with a small farm that can sustain 20 people, with only 5 working men. Defendable from a horde with several ak armed men in the right spots and choke points. Game is plentifull, trouts live in the small river nearby and water is drinkable and cleaner than tap water in any city. Small herd of sheep, some cattle...
Close family only.

>>138827181

too many knives/blades, no solar battery charger, space blanket, first aid kit

>>138828904
>prepare for disease prevention
So a box of condoms then?

>>138828432
>BaoFeng UV-5RA

good tip

https://www.amazon.com/BaoFeng-BF-F8HP-Two-Way-136-174MHz-400-520MHz/dp/B00MAULSOK/ref=dp_ob_title_wld

>>138827313
looool
also batteries?
water? 16oz won't do, and life straws are only good for so long. what about cooking?

an idiot made this kit.

>>138827181

Get rid of the following items:

>Crazy ass axe in upper left corner
>machete
>shotgun
>heavy rope
>sharpener

Add the following items:

>2 large trash bags for wet storage
>tarp
>maps of your area
>AR (if you're allowed to buy THAT shotgun I'm sure you can get a rifle) Ammo is lighter and you'll have better range for hunting/defense
>rainfly for the hammock
>more water if you can fit it
>spare change of clothes (two extra pairs of socks)
>beef up that medical kit. Make sure you have anti-diarrhea meds as well as anti-inflammatory meds.

Try not to get stuck on brands. You can find generic alternatives for that Eno for literally 1/5 the price.

Otherwise you're good. I'm sure you'll get about 3 or 4 miles before a roving pack of niggers chase you down and eat you.

>>138845954

>wolf meat

Too bad they patched out the parasites.

Also where's the old man's beard?

>>138830086
>pack a battery operated meme stove guaranteed to malfunction or break if the batteries even last long enough
>cant into just lighting a fire in a soup can with holes in the bottom for draft

>>138834291
Even Tassie (cold arse end of Oz) summers are brutal in the sun.

>>138830231

Not a fleshgait.

>>138827181
liberate evropa kit

>>138838636
>implying race will matter in a post apocalyptic survival situation
The dude is right. Killing people and taking their stash will be the only way to survive for a while. I don't care who I will have to kill to provide for my family in that scenario. All things considered I would probably hunt white people as they will be loaded with the most loot. Would probably make peace with nigs to help with the hunt as they would be hungry and looking for a leader who could provide.
>that feel when king in an apocalypse now world

>>138827181
Go to
>>>/out/

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>>138828584

>>138842857 (You)

Ask your women about them, they've been playing it with your slaves for hundreds of years, nigger.

How heavy is your bug out bag boys ?

>>138827181

only 2 hachets?

get on my level 20 hachets.

minimum,

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>>138850567
Basically the same thing i was told in the military. Although they told me that the flutter valve thing was so hard to do if there blood and sweat that you are better of just wrapping plastic over everything.

>>138848684
>Stocking extra food is cheap to do and is more likely to come in handy.
Stocking food literally cost nothing at all. You should be buying beans, rice, pasta etc in bulk anyway so just buy more then you need that week and rotate it. If you regularly eat something that last around 1 year (basically all dried goods) just stock up on that, you are going to eat it anyway and prices goes up all the time because of inflation so you might as well stock up. If you eat canned goods you just get something like this, add the cans to the top and eat the cans from the bottom.

Don't be that retard who fills is pantry with MRE's, that is overpriced shit and unless you play on moving around with it its just a waste of money

Someone got the sauce on that guy from Bosina who actually had to put this shit into practice...really great article on what a true breakdown really looks like

>>138827181
I'd say :
Food for a few days, you'll find some on your way. Ideally, canned food is better;
A pen and some sheets, to plan.
Knifes;
Ropes;
Flashlight and batteries;
Hatchet;
Water purification tablets;
Money from your country, it can be useful, have an amount of 50USD$;
A lighter;
Cigarettes, to trade with?
Maybe a smoke grenade?

>>138843000
>a shotgun is useful in ANY scenario
>rifles are more versatile
what the fuck are you trying to say

and wtf is OP doing to do with buckshot? the most useless shotgun ammo for wrol imaginable

>>138853344
>Don't be that retard who fills is pantry with MRE's
This. I have some friends who can't stop buying that patriot pantry stuff.

>>138828584
Flags says to tell you to plug the hole full of shit

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>>138847439
>left Europe because it sucked
>Europe still sucks
>dies first
>Eurotards blame Ameritards

>>138827181
both. what's the point in getting prepared if you're only prepared for one situation, not very prepared really then.

>>138827181
if you or anyone plans to stay out for a long time, you need to pack a fuckload of salt to cure meat to last. 1 life straw is dumb, plastic handle axes are shit, no rifle is shit, no radio, no batteries, no tarp, no ziploc bags, no fucking hygiene, no peroxide or first aid
damn dude.

its best to stay at home and fortify there. be in contact with your neighbors and see what their stance is in case real emergencies or the extreme happens and plan from there with others. that way when something big happens, you have a small group to rely on and a larger stockpile of everything. invest in a generator

https://shtfschool.com/blog/

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>>138853688
i gotchu pham

>>138855316
well shit, i implied if you planned to leave for awhile and not a weekend in the woods/mountains. my bad. seriously though - if you plan to stay out in the wilderness for an extended period of time, you need to go back over your shit. even your temp bag needs first aid, hygiene, extra socks, and a tarp. also fortify in place no matter where you are. read about the slav who had to try to survive during the fall of the USSR - it doesnt matter if you live in a city or country; you can be just fine staying at home as long as you can defend what you have

Who has Jap 125 motorcycle here?

They will literally never break and terrain is no issue.You can carry around 200kg so as long as you are not a fat fuck you should be fine.

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>>138827181

I'm more of a realist and believe home prep is more important. Food, gold or silver, seeds, medicine, security. BOBs or go bags have their place but I think it's silly to believe you're going to go out into the woods and survive in a real world situation. They should be a secondary measure for if you need to leave your house quickly.

>>138854058
>>a shotgun is useful in ANY scenario
>what the fuck are you trying to say
I never said that, what the fuck are you on about?

>and wtf is OP doing to do with buckshot? the most useless shotgun ammo for wrol imaginable
I never even mentioned buckshot. What the fuck is your problem?

Weapons, weapons everywhere. 90% of Europe don't have acces to firearms. Europe is also very dense populated. Lot's of people on small space. Forests are quite small. SHTF is Europe would be real mess.

>he can't just fashion his own cordage from fibrous bark
>he can't just sharpen stones into knives or attach them to sticks to make other tools and weapons
>he uses bug spray
>his tool sharpener is one of those plastic and steel angled slide fuckers and not just a stone
>he actually uses a compass for anything ever
>don't forget the spork
>tacticool tomohawk AND a small hatchet
>knife with seration on both sides instead of just the back

GO OUTSIDE YOU FUCKING NEET ASSHOLES

>>138849241
>So a box of condoms then?
History shows that ppl still fuck during collapse

>>138843614
>i rather be stuck with a crossbow in shtf UK with a crossbow then being in shtf US with an AR

All those ARs belong to good ol' boys. What's there to fear? They're /ourguys/.

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So no one else seems to do this but I have everything all set to go for a river based escape plan. The wife and I have pretty typical SHTF bags packed and ready and a couple of nice big ol' expedition kayaks we can have in the river in 10 min. We've practiced our drill a few times and we were comfy as fuck and made it to another city and a huge unpopulated swath of forest on separate occasions. Fishing was great we didn't even need the rations we brought.

>>138827181
What's the orange and grey thing between the leatherman and the shotgun?

Will a 9" .300 blackout rifle be good? Light and strong vs people/animals.

>>138849668
>anti-diarrhea meds
I almost never see this mentioned in these threads.
Chances are you're going to eat shitty food and dehydration, having to stop every ten minutes and walking around with a battered butthole are the last things you want.

>>138858349 Knife sharpener

>>138858635
Ah, I see that now, ty.

>>138858293
Comfy/10

The best bugout vehicle is a dual sport motorcycle right?

>>138829840
Shotgun for home defense. Rifle for survival.
Your nogunz is showing.

>>138858293
noice.

In Florida, one needs a different strategy because of the population density. One thing we do have is an excess of feral pork running around, lots of guns, and delicious cool spring water that flows under most of the state.

Any other Floridafag strageties?

>>138858531
Its not even the stopping and asspain. Diarrhea can kill you from dehydration really easy.

>>138859278
I am also interested in this. I'm stuck in the middle of a dense area and would likely need to get out at some point. What is the best option of urban survival anyway?

>>138846276
>For a handgun stick with revolvers, they're easier to service and less prone to issue.
No gun walking dead confirmed....Just pack a glock because it will last when a revolver fails its done for.
When A glock fails you get a new spring.

I know from personal experience that those mountain meals are pretty good but you're gonna want some pills. Pain killers (advil, Motrin) and antibiotics. A full medkit would be good.

>>138827181

Mobile with the ability and tools to hunt, identify, cure and cook meals in the wild

>>138855911
what the fuck do you want to do with your stupid nexus tablet, phone or what ever that is

Also OP, replace that shotgun with an AR15
If you're gonna be slugging around something that big might as well make it combat ready.
https://youtu.be/kwK3j615734
https://youtu.be/Xx-e3ugkgy8

>>138827181
>life straw instead of Sawyer mini
You might as well just pack cyanide pills and save the space.

>>138838791

The Virgin is literally me playing PUBG. I've gotten two chicken dinners with just a single kill before.

>>138850514
>Nigger stabs you in the back over gibs me dats.
Nigga you dont even know they kill eachother over jorbands and dime bags.

>>138827696
I'd say mobile, those who chose mobile in the city will be showing up on your doorstep looking for gibs

>>138860048
>living in a place where you can't drink from any random creek or lake
kek

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>>138859560
>What is the best option of urban survival anyway?

My GUESS is that urban strategies would rely on just networking--knowing all your neighbors, and being able to button-up your neighborhood for several days like the whites did in Gretna, La after Katrina:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-gretna_wittsep04-story.html

>Tribal instincts took overTo many African-Americans and other Gretna critics, the decision by officials of the mostly white suburb to bar entry to the mostly black victims of Katrina amounted to an overtly racist—and blatantly unconstitutional—blockade of the only escape route they could find.

translation from lugenpresse to English:

Nogs wanted to nig in white neighborhoods like they were doing in N.O., but residents/police wouldn't let them. pic related

>>138833430
I hope you don't mean bugging in in a city, That's fucking suicide

>>138827181
Bugout bags are better than staying put. You can't evade the fat bitch you regrettably slept with last night without a mobile escape plan with a few provisions.

>>138827181
go to /out/

>>138830231
I wouldn't worry about it.

>>138827181

Both, but mobile is more important if you can only have one.

>>138860681
there was an article about a guy who survived around two months in a town or something
I remember that he said that booze,cigs and lighters were rhe most sought objects when trading and that the richest and safest looking places got raided first so hiding yourself is fundamental

>>138829018
>To where?

To any place that is not a concrete death trap aka cities

>>138860542
>Not understanding how survival works.
If you're in a survival situation and you contract dysentery it can and will fucking kill you. These aren't Brita filters you faggot. They are anti-microbial filters to prevent shit like dysentery.
You have 4 options when it comes to water innawoods:
#1. Drink it straight. You can minimize your risk by only drinking moving water. (drinking from a lake would be the most retarded thing you could possibly do).
#2. Boil it. (but that takes up a lot of fuel)
#3. Treat it chemically. But then you're drinking the treatment chemicals along with it. And you also have to maintain a supply of chemicals.
#4. Filter it with an anti-microbial filter. And in this department Lifestraw comes up short performance wise versus the Sawyer Mini.

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>>138827181
You definitely want a folding shovle

Trust me you dont want to dig.your shit hole/fireplace by hand

Also invaluable for making more permanent shelters

A slingshot is also a good addition to a bugout bag, low weight can shot any goddamn rock you can find, birds rabbits pretty much any animal smaller then 8kg

>buuh anon why not just get a gun

Cause if you got a gun you sure ass hell dont want to waste any precious ammo on small game, fuck I probably would never use a gun on game it would be more valuable in self defense

>>138833463

ALICE pack if you want a mixture of tactical and practical.

> tfw live in a dry shithole
I am dead if anything happens

>>138827181
>Mosquito spray
Non type-A blood subhuman detected

>>138860694
If you actually live in a city, attempting to actually escape to the woods in a happening is suicide. The area where I live, I'd not make it 3 miles from my house before hitting an impenetrable wall of traffic which is not going anywhere. Better off staying in my home defending it from looters, then deciding whether or not to move later.

>>138847439
Ah yes, everything America does is bad, everything Yurop does is great. Nevermind that it's Europe that it destroying itself, while we are over here attempting to prepare ourselves for the shitstorm you all are about to unleash on the world.

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>>138833463
Fox advanced mountaineering pack

its molle so you can go crazy with the tacticool i.e make a big pack even bigger

Molle means Modular Lightweight Load-carrying Equipment

wich basically translates into you can strap other bags onto the bag, aslong as they are both molle

>>138861583
>mfw when i go a drink questionable water when ever im out camping so i build a better immune defense also yolo

i have been doing it ever since i was a kid idk if its the way im built or if im just lucky but i have drunk some pretty bad water in my days and never gotten sick

last time i was out i drank 2 liters yellow water literally fucking yellow tasted bitter as shit, got a little grumble in my stomach but that was about it

>>138863230
You're full of shit sven. And this is a dangerous post.

>>138861583
Iodine is a great water purifier

its actually good for you and it doubles as wound treatment

>>138827181
Mobile farm set up kit with shelter and irrigation plans, also map of all lands close to irrigation also form community and share.

>>138863742
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgnlf6-VXTs

>>138863557
okey you are rigth it was only 1.5 liters

i grew up in the woods, my hobby was to go and drink from every stream i found, now when ever i go camping i usually take a few sips when ever i pass a stream

last time i ran out of water so it became 1.5 liters instead of just a few sips

sweden has pretty top quality water, also im always close to civilization i would not be doing that shit if i was way up north or in a actual survival situation

in the worst case it would take me 3-5 hours to get back to civilization and i have complete cellphone coverage

>>138863557
Water is clean in scandinavia

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>>138849023
Far out, that locations biome is my dream place to build a house on top of a hill (reinforced with tunnels and stuff, like a bunker and a wall/fence)

>>138849241
>So a box of condoms then?
>not producing kids to get ahead of everyone and fill in all the high positions in society so that your family runs the nation and is powerful

>>138827181
Better bug out ahead of time. I plan on buying a small farm and moving farther out (pretty rural already). In my area i can find a lot of old farms near logging land. 30 miles away from the closest small city (50k) with neighbors as far as 3-4 miles away. Lots of trees surrounding it. Bug out ahead and prepare. When shit gets bad you just go home.

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>>138864400
Hot damn, this guy knows how to rise with the tides.

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>>138827181

>>138864028
All water needs to be boiled before use.

>>138859732
You gotta store all the survival books and any handy information like maps, plants, edible food, bug out locations. Ideally it should be both offline and stored digitally. I don't know if he has a solar panel/battery pack charger combo, but that's what you need to couple with a device for this stuff.

>>138827181

Nice guns. How are you carrying the extra ammo?

>>138828432
>Not even a BaoFeng UV-5RA communication system.

This is great, I can't tell if you are being serious or not lol

>a bag
>not moving to the edge of civilization and ridding yourself of all dependencies before it all comes crashing down.

Where you gonna go with your bag?

>>138829018
>To where? Away from your shelter, community, supplies and ammo?

Fellow exerb dweller, and I always wonder the same thing.

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>>138828432
>>138865636
What do you think about the new model BF-F8HP?

>>138865985
Say it had a picatinny rail welded to it as well.

>>138861583
>#3. Treat it chemically. But then you're drinking the treatment chemicals along with it. And you also have to maintain a supply of chemicals.
Many of those chemicals will evaporate if you just take the lid of the bottle and leave it standing there fore a few hours.

>>138829863
>oh shit anon you're right, muh bad. i have eye fry and a hangover.

Hangover on a Thursday? Or any day?

DEGENERATE

>>138858916
shotguns are shit for home defense too.

>>138866293
why

you need some cash our trade goods. gold coins are good our bar.

>>138832260
>axe instead of hatchet

that's the Fiskars hatchet, anon...and I highly recommend it (and the axe and splitting maul) to anyone on the market.

>>138830086

>not memorizing every word of the US constitution and reciting it by heart in the style of an epic poem to your children and grandchildren by the faint glow of the burning ruins of a nearby city

i don't see any bubblebath nigga, you aint got room for a little bubblebath.

>>138827181
Shotguns are perfectly fine if you cant afford a semi auto rifle. Pistol grip only shotguns like the one in that picture however are completely stupid.

>>138855911

lol cherry bombs and grip workout thingy

bugout bag made by someone who has never been indawoods

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>>138828432
I have one of those but have no idea how to use it. How to get good at radio?

>>138868759
Look up some YouTube tutorials. There's hundreds.

Also, get your HAM Tech license. It's really easy if you understand the basics of radio operations and only $15.

arrl.org/online-courses

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>>138866659
>that's the Fiskars hatchet
My language doesn't make any distinction between hatchet and axe, both are just axe and then add things like hand, timber, felling do specify what axe it is. But you are right, it is a hatchet. I rather have the axe though, its goes outside the back anyway so the length doesn't matter that much, the extra leverage is worth i.
>anon...and I highly recommend it (and the axe and splitting maul) to anyone on the market.
yeah, its good and light weight. People shit on them because its not wood and it doesn't have en eye. But it has a grove so if you brake it (you wont, unless you are an idiot) you can just do something like this. Find a carcass and wrap some wet sinew around it and it should tighten up real nice. Letting it soak in birch sap should work and tighten it up the same way antifreeze does to since it also contains sugar. You can get gallons of it from one tree in the spring.

>>138828584
You generally need a hospital to treat a gunshot wound. Best you can do alone is stop bleeding assuming the shot didn't hit anything that causes mass bleeding.

>>138865985
>>138866087
i would take any gun

fucking hell fag a musket is better then nothing

>>138849668
>>1388585314
Just use some charcoal, easy to make, readily available. Crush it into the finest dust you can and drink mixed with water.
t. tried and true

>>138865636
I'm serious that that is the minimum radio to have. Cheap and with a 16" whip and at 5 Watts, I can tag repeaters 20+ miles away in U or V and regularly tag simplex users at 10+ miles.

Sure, I think a dual band Yaesu 50W mobile is better but for someone only using a radio in a SHTF or BOB situation, a BaoFeng is a cheap alternative that will help more than hurt.

>>138865985
I haven't used that unit yet.

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>>138827181
Innawoods thread?

>>138870952
How hard would it be to have solar powered repeaters spread around?
Would it be viable?

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>>138830231
Skin spooper is total made up bullshit from /x/. It's bigfoot tier bullshit.

>>138827181
Wouldnt a shotgun and a rifle be superior for buggan out?

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>>138827181
>tfw 50% of items in the picture are illegal in your country

Don't be a dork
Bin that spork

>>138860681
Oh well I'm going to die if I stay then. I live in the middle of an area full of nogs and spics and I have visible food plants. I'd need to travel to the closest white enclave and hole up with them.

>>138862456
See this is what I was thinking, that it would be better to barricade myself in, but now I'm worried about the horde.

>>138871349
Expensive but feasible. You'd have to have a few car batteries in parallel for dark hours for good repeaters. You could wire two BaoFengs together and hook them to solar chargers for a cheap and dirty repeater (Audio out to vox in, set transmitter to VOX mode, basically) if you really needed to.

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>>138827313

There's a word for that. Homeless.

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>>138871689
>Skin spooper is total made up bullshit from /x/. It's bigfoot tier bullshit.
i wouldn't worry about it

>>138870459
>fucking hell fag a musket is better then nothing
So buy one then, you need no licence for <1890 guns that doesn't take cartridges. You can even get a ball and cap revolver with several shots.
https://www.blocket.se/kristianstad/Revolver_slaglas_pistol_svartkrut_75032346.htm?ca=4&w=3

>>138873819
I have one in the back 40 of my cabin up north.

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>>138835489
>no gun

Its like you made a list of things the fist nog you see will take away

>>138827181
>shotgun with no stock and pistol grip
its like you want to miss all the time AND break your wrists

>>138861601
e-tools are great, they are saws hammers knife axes picks what-have-you

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>>138855911
>mexican passport

>>138828904
Walking around with a rifle or shotgun in an area that still has cops or military in it will get you fucked up. These retards watch too much TV and too many movies. If you are mobile or shut in you must be as invisible to others as is possible or someone will take your shit away.

>>138827181
Hope to stay, expect to leave. It all depends on what your looking at.

>>138827411
No tape or wire either, and you can do away with the shit solar charger and get an emergency radio with crank, solar panels, and charging port on Amazon. Also, the compass with no maps is lolerific.

>>138831123
Underrated, he forgot to grab some xanax to keep him alive, also might want a monster energy

>>138876249
What about CCing Glocknade?

>>138832260
Ya that fiskars hatchet is good, I had one for years, sharpened well and lasted forever for a relatively cheap piece. Would recommend since plastic is lighter than wood anyway. Furthermore orange coloring is easier to see if you drop it in grass or leaves.

>>138828266
If we can convince everyone to bring food then all we have to do is take their stuff

>>138877616
Isn't wooden handle better? If it breaks you can replace it?

>>138834602
Can't you just wear your hat and long shirt though? That's space I can use for other shit

>>138877913
You can replace the plastic with wood, later, when there is less shit in your pack making the added weight negligible

Retarded gerber axe made of mystery steel with retarded hole in it reducing it's weight massively defeating the purpose of a wood chopping axe.
And a retarded little cuck hatchet with a handle so short you're losing leverage on the end of a long handle also defeating the purpose of an axe.

>>138878210
>You can replace the plastic with wood
No you can't. It doesn't have an eye.

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>>138828175
what are you talking about?
shotguns are great vs people without armor.
you aint going to be defending yourself from people with military grade ceramic plate.
a 12ga buckshot on center mass and they guy is dead in before EMS can arrive 90% of the time
what i hate is not the shotgun but the meme short shotgun without even a folding stock.
everything else you said is acurate.
i would add that his backpack seems to be very small.
get yourself a 50Liter backpack minimum. his one looks around 30 at max.