Alright listen up fuckers because this is how things are going

>>137667583
Nice blog bro

>>137667583
fuck off you stupid LEAF

First thread here >>137642226
To get you guys caught up, we're trying to remove all the Nazi-larping from the alt-right movement. Right now there are some interesting developments as a leaf is trying to seek an alliance with the Hoteps.

>>137668173
Fuck off nigger.

>>137668256
go back to Mexico you short smelly beaner.

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>>137667583
How about Democrats denounce Yvette Felarca first?

>>137667583
Muh PR

bump.I vote for starting the American traditionalism party

>>137667583
Oh no, our goose is cooked now.

>>137667583
I say if you want a good greek aesthetic take the symbol of Aphrodites, the goddess of love. This way we can play the liberals at their own game and if MSM tries to look into the symbol, they'll find that it means love.

>>137668199
That's actually the second one. Both have good stuff. First one:

>>137615169

>>137667583

the nazis are dead. stop using them as an allegory for modern day racism.

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>>137670602
fuck I forgot to actually pin it tho

I just saw that Trump didn't throw us under the bus. Or more accurately he didn't throw the baby out with the bathwater. At this point I'm thinking it would be in our best interest to drop theAlt-Rightmonicker, Spencer, and any of those that won't agree to follow the rules set out in OP

Anyone take issue with this? We should start thinking of a new umbrella term. ..People that associate with the Alt right got lucky in that it was only one death that we can disavow and we can separate ourselves from it with a clean slate

NAZIS GTFO. YOUR AUTISM KILLS LITERALLY EVERYTHING. WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE THIS SHIT HAPPEN

>>137670762
Again. We need to purge ourselves of the Alt Right monicker. Normies and the Gen pop are now fearful and hateful of this term. It's counter productive

there are no nazis you dumb faggot

>>137667583
Eat shit.

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Emphasis ought to be put on the specifically European heritage of whites around the globe; to make not only a polical movement, but also a cultural a movement for whites around the globe to rediscover their ancestors.

From there you can convince whites that they are worth preserving in their own states.

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Bumping with copypasta from old thread:

merican Traditionalist Party

Advocate for ethnic advocacy (lol minorities get this regardless, sound better than white nationalism), Advocate for free speech absolutism. Be Nationalist to a fault. Freedom of association (libertarian segregation). Support ethnonationalism for all cultures, lean in to condemning the migrant crises (this will filter antiwhites). Stand for capitalism and Charity, Etc

Neotradition: use scientific arguments for gender roles, diversity being weakness, realities of law enforcement, realistic goals and IQ, full Peterson on the need for religion and personal responsibility. Hard stance on health and fitness (much costs)

American aesthetics with nods to Rome. Zero tolerance for larping at our events. Contraband bined and immolated. America won that war (even if it's too bad we did)

By popular request there is now @amtradparty on the Twitter

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Bumping:

American Traditionalist Party

Advocate for ethnic advocacy (lol minorities get this regardless, sound better than white nationalism), Advocate for free speech absolutism. Be Nationalist to a fault. Freedom of association (libertarian segregation). Support ethnonationalism for all cultures, lean in to condemning the migrant crises (this will filter antiwhites). Stand for capitalism and Charity, Etc

Neotradition: use scientific arguments for gender roles, diversity being weakness, realities of law enforcement, realistic goals and IQ, full Peterson on the need for religion and personal responsibility. Hard stance on health and fitness (much costs)

American aesthetics with nods to Rome. Zero tolerance for larping at our events. Contraband bined and immolated. America won that war (even if it's too bad we did)

By popular request there is now @amtradparty on the Twitter

"Antifa scum" "You're all dumb" <- chant

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>>137672337
I'm practically a Boomer. Sorry for double post lads.

>>137672337
the part about encouraging ethnic nationalism for all races should really be stressed here. If we get other minorities excited about their heritage, we can make nationalism fashionable. Despite the anger this topic brings to people, white pride need not be a hateful thing at all, and we really shouldn't sell it that way.

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Currently, I'm trying to turn pic related into a "white-nationalist-black-nationalist alliance" flag. I'm going to replace the swastika with the cross and the snek with the black fist. Thoughts?

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>>137672337

>>137667583
100% correct. They are there to fuck up the movement. No thinking person can wake up on the day of a rally, pick up their chinese made polyester-swastika shit or KKK regalia and say, "Yah. This is a good idea. I'm going to wear this shit out in public have have it not fuck up the burgeoning MODERN identity movement."
Sorry. You are mentally retarded if you do that. They need to be boxed the fuck out. Be a Nazi in your fucking basement. Heil fucking hitler all day long over your Macaroni and cheese dinner. Just fuck off with that. Either come and be serious about saving Western Civilization and promoting a racially conscious group or fuck off. Don't show up. You're wearing the uniform of histories FAILURES. You're RETARDED. Stop. You will be labeled as intentionally trying to fuck the movement up. You will be treated like Anti-Fa because what is the difference...you're fucking us up WORSE than they are.

>>137672871
NAZI IMAGERY NOT WELCOME. FUCK THE FUCK OFF WITH THAT SHIT ALREADY

>>137672682
Communist scum! You're all dumb! Etc

>>137672953
I like this flag but lions aren't native to the continent

>>137672337
>>137672555

I will be copying your posts and posting them every now and then. Lets make it a usual thing and post /atg/ threads. /American Traditionalism General/

>>137667583
I think more people need to understand that the rise of Nazi Germany was in response to Communism.
The justification for the Holocaust is that most of the Communist leaders where Jewish.
What would the Japanese-American internment camps look like if America was bombed to death like the Nazis were?

We always had the horrors of Nazis pushed on us, but I have never heard about the Spanish and German revolutions in any of my history classes, or the true nature of Communism with how it eradicates any national pride so that the population becomes a total slave to the communist state.

This is a important lesion that everybody should learn.
What happens when you have violent communist protesters?
You get Nazis.

This fucking pleb.

We never called ourselves alt right. The media branded us with this moniker.

Don't give a flying fuck about any of your monikers. I will not participate in your bullshit branding scheme.

>movement
As if.

Liberal kike - this isn't a fucking club.
Take your social engineering horseshit to Twitter.

NOT a leftie, NOT alt right, NOT centrist. NONE of your fucking business.

>>137673489
defiantly straddling that fence!

>>137667583
Identity Politics aren't right wing

>>137673400
taking all this into account, can't we reserve this conversation for later? This stuff just isn't palatable. Nazi inevitably scares people away.

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>>137667583
>White Nationalism
Even Fox news is condemning that. You can't have anything ethnic at all.

>National Socialist
Way to show what Nazism really is as ethnic Socialism.

>>137673063
Did you not read where I said that I was removing the swastika?

Another good post from last thread:

what part of "Dress Like A Grown-up" is confusing to you?
do you propose that properly fitting jeans and a t-shirt is too casual?
look around you
it's pretty much the standard dress for americans not actually at work right now

anyone wearing niggerish club-wear, spergy or meme'd out tees or fucking pepe pins is gonna be obviously a larper, but polos and khakis is the uniform for wage cucks.
i have no intention of stepping out dressed for an evening asking "you want fries with that?"

dressing up in your grandfather's suit and tipping your fedora is likewise, a one way ticket to faggotville, population: YOU

if we all wind up looking like we just got off shift at wal-mart, how do you think that will play?

better we should look like mormon missionaries than minimum wage burger flippers or goddamned gay cowboys eating pudding

Fashion Tips:
>keep the denim below the belt. jeans jackets and denim shirts are for rentboys and rednecks
>no loud colors except in a tie or pocket square
> socks are non-optional (that means no fucking sandals! what, are you a fucking hippie?)
> if your wearing a short sleeved shirt or anything other than a basic oxford, NO FUCKING TIES
> shoes are also non-optional
> dont wear shit you might see on a nigger heading out to "da club"
> be clean, neat and present yourself like an adult
> find a fucking barber and learn to use a razor
> no goddamned swearing in public
> anything that sounds like it might come from 4-chan, STAYS ON 4-chan!!!
> no memes. EVER.
> stay calm, reasonable and adult, let the lefties sperg out.
> chants should be family freindly and incidentally hilarious like : "hey hey, ho ho, i respect your right to be wrong!"
> think how you want, but always look like Leave It To Beaver

anything else will play into the lugenpresse's hands

>>137672837
This guy gets it.

And, another:

Aesthetics and aim is important:

The Right PROTECTS

The Left DESTROYS

That needs to be the mantra. I liked the shields etc, you need more of that.

The right needs to adopt the simple (and true) aim of "PROTECTING Western Civilisation", you need the aura of stoic knights. Unmasked, strong, protectors of the civilisation who are also proud to be part of it.

This will be in the face of Antifa's Masked, radical (they're practically ISIS pulling those statues down) screaming, violent, destruction. You NEED the view that you have shields, they have weapons.

This is exactly how you gain support of the centrists. Alt-left wants to destroy, cause change, you want to protect, keep things safe. The average normie doesn't like change, doesn't like radicalism, this is what the left are pushing and you need to show it.

The slow drip of change is no more, now they're pushing it loud and hard, which is exactly what you need. Now put up those shield walls and get the people supporting you, they WILL choose the group that opts for safety and security, over that which pushes radical change.


Trump has called them out for being the violent faggots they are. Most normies probably think of lefties as the loving hippies, now they'll be thinking "man they are pretty violent and dangerous aren't they.. Look at them attacking those young lads who just want to protect.."

SIEZE this, USE the branding, whenever you're about to say "Antifa" or "Commies", use "Alt Left", this will hit harder to home for normies.

God speed America. I can only hope we follow you someday.

>>137674468
Fuck you faggots!

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>>137673395
Get me on Twitter @AmTradParty

Paste bin or something?

>>137673972
I think it is an important fight that needs to be fought right now.
They call themselves anti fascists to justify all their violence.
Nobody wants to be the person to defend 'those ebil nazes' so they just let the violent communists create groups and assault people that disagree with them.
Communism is made to look so clean and PC when in reality it has caused so much bloodshed and all their ideals involve the destruction of society, Fascism is just a response to that. "Do you think your way of life and your beliefs are worth fighting for?" if you say yes you are a Fascist.

We need for people to understand at the very least that communism is a plague upon humanity and that the Nazis rose to power in very dark times, where the people wanting to make concentration camps to store people who could start a bloody revolution seemed like the best choice.
Hitler did nothing wrong.
America turned a ship of jewish refugees away because they didn't want to take in communists.

>>137673400
This is stuff people need to know. But it's not a good or necessary introduction.

>>137667583
Anything white = Racist when a white person says it

White anything = Racist when a white person says it

Alt-right = Racist

It is how it is cause you don't own the media. If you wanna call yourself anything, you call yourself American. If you identify as a larping group, you will be vilified and destroyed in detail as racist and you will be alone.

>>137674348
yes and im saying dump the whole fucking flag. why are you guys so attached to nazi stuff that you can't set it aside for a larger purpose?

>>137667583
I agree. The racist shit needs to end if people want to get their point across and make a difference.

We have too much at risk to let some shit head KKK idiots fuck it up.

Listen up fucker,
What you said is good except for one thing, now you must even abandon your name 'Alt-right.' Its origins are deeply rooted in violent or quasi-violent white supremacism.
This requirement should not surprise you because the Charlottesville gathering was indeed a mission to unite the right, and having suceeded, the Right must prevail.

I rejoice at our success. I pray for temperance and wisdom for us all from the many Heavenly Fathers, and I look forward to walking boldly with you into the next chapter of the saga.

>>137674913
Its not that unreasonable.
The LITERAL COMMIES call themselves anti fascist as a cloak, because the Nazis are considered absolute evil when the commies are the truly evil ones.

I don't want to live in a fascist society, but I would pick it over communism any day.

>>137674806
put it in the god damn text books once we've won for all I fucking care. It's such a non-priority; people are utterly repulsed by anything and everything nazi. How do you not see this?

>>137675007
First of all, nothing in that flag is Nazi besides the Swastika. Second of all, I'm really not attached to Nazi stuff. It's just a useful template for flags combining two ideologies.

>>137670762
>new umbrella term<

American, Republican, Conservative

If you don't attach yourself to the majority of Americans you will be destroyed and be as irrelevant as Spencer. Spencer and the alt-right was always a joke. Anything associated with white nationalism will always be a joke in public. If you wanna push policies, push policies nit ideologies. Be Trump and build the fucking wall. Americans support Trump. White Nationalist are self-masturbating thinking they had, have or will have any power.

>>137675252
Honestly the fastest way to red pill people on the JQ is to be a blabbermouth good goy.

"Dude the 1% is half the Jews in the country, stop blaming them. It's antisemitism."

No need to rehabilitate Hitler, just point out much overrepresented minority (but white knight a little). People can't unsee it.

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>>137667583

Basically we gotta start following a TR sense of Nationalism. Read link below:

http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/new-nationalism-speech/

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After two hours, it's finally done. This flag represents the Alliance of white nationalists and black nationalists working together to restore racial identity. It's a little sloppy, but I think it gets the point across.

Any thoughts? I'd like to hear some critique or suggestions.

>>137672682
I like it. Make it about them.

>>137675450
I know what you are going for. I would do gen identitaire instead of WN cross. The black power fist is fine. Does hotep have it's own thing?

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>>137667583
Anyone who unironically disagrees with this is either controlled opposition or too dumb to be of any use to us. Sorry not sorry, LARPing is fun on a Cambodian weaving board but we have a real battle to win, and it's a battle of hearts and minds (like it always is).

Regardless of what you think of Trump, "Make America Great Again" resonated as a slogan because it invoked American traditionalism. That's what Americans want. That's what WE want. We need to connect the dots with proper branding, or the media will strike a blow that alienates too much of the populace, and then we lose the battle before it's even begun.

Be smart. Be mature. I'm not asking any of you to compromise your ideals, I'm saying we need to be cognizant of how we present ourselves.

>>137675838
This a thousand times over. Read the pragmatist writers. American made philosophy

>>137675172
Said this up in the thread. Need to pivot under a new banner.

The media is actually saying that "Antifa has emerged to fight the Alt Right".. .. They emerged,,,

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>>137673375
Neither are Donkeys and Elephants. Well, maybe donkeys.

Either way, I like the lion as a symbol. Main the golden trump mane give us courage.

>>137675909
Not that I know of. But yeah, identitaire would be a good idea. Back to work, I guess!

>>137675845
This looks great but I don't think we can go under this logo anymore.. Also, Nazi colors. Looks great though

>>137667583
>The Alt-right needs to
> muh alt right
plebit please gtfo

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We need Objectivism. I posit that Aristotle, John Locke, and Ayn Rand are 3 greatest individuals to ever walk the face of the earth. Furthering Objectivism and an appreciation for Ayn Rand is what all our supposed Republican defenders are missing. Even people like Ben Shapiro and (my personal fav) Bill Whittle lack her final completion to the formula they've been seeking.
Reminder that Objectivism is the only possible /final/ redpill, and that Libertarianism is incomplete Objectivism. Objectivism without the epistemology.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erytcpYpzRk
Objectivism is Nationalist, Capitalist, Individualist, Egoist, Libertarian, Minarchist, and Meritocratic all rolled into one. I would (overarchingly) add the ONLY thing thd US founding fathers lacked to the Constution; a rejection of the primordial evil that is Altruism.
I would add Objectivism, whose essence had been stated in "the right to the pursuit of happiness". But only implicitly. Objectivism states the glorious engine that is the American morality explictly.
Cultural Marxists and 'Nazis' are terrified of Ayn Rand as she represents the American Constution completed. Epistemologically validated, metaphysically defined, and ethically expanded, Objectivism is the greatest threat Commies have ever encountered which is why they cannot even bear to have it discussed as a philosophy.
The dreaded, horrible secret that academic philosophers face is that Objectivism is not -a- Philosophy but THE Philosophy. Hers holds the particular distinction of being the first ever formulated META-Philosophy. And psudeo-intellectuals the world over are perpetually butthurt over this incontrovertible fact. Yes fact, I do not exaggerate. Including it among their other disaparate half formed, half actualized "philosophies", they find it eats everything it comes into contact with. Despite what these sorts of people would have to say it isn't Ayn Rand but academia as it stands that is "the joke".

Repost-
You fuckers still have a chance in this. TRUMP defended you from this. Don't let him down now and continue dumb shit nazi salutes in public! THIS IS VITAL! You MUST keep peace if you ever go out and do another rally. Get your permit. Protest. PEACEFULLY. But Still be armed ready to defend yourself. The next time shit goes down it will be recorded. TRUMP STATED IT WAS SELF DEFENSE. Make sure the media doesn't catch you being the aggressors. Lefty bastards can't help but chimp out when they see you. Let the media and everyone catch them being the violent animals they are!

DO NOT FUCK THIS UP AGAIN. NEO-NAZI, STORMFRONT, KKK HAS BEEN DENOUNCED!
You have a second chance to do this right!!!

True, the way people worship Hitler Like a God is worrisome.
I believe they are just filling the space in their heart for a Monarch with a dead man.

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>>137675845
I wish there was a less loaded white advocacy symbol, but you dunno good Anon.

Maybe the Black power symbol color inverted? It's appropriation but fuck it lol

>>137675729
If I'm being honest, I really don't lose much sleep over Jew-related matters. What redpilled me wasn't some shocking statistic, but several hours of Jared Taylor speeches. He added a certain romanticism to the subject that had previously been missing, and afterward I felt like I had been awoken from a trance.

>>137674468
This guy gets it. The best way to attract people to your movement is to embody the characteristics that they wish they could see in themselves. Image is important.

Project strength. Project nobility. Project professionalism. It will make the screaming leftists look like lunatics by comparison. That's how we win.

>>137676150
Jesus, dat spin...

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Part 2

I had this idea for a "Meritocratic Party". Declare the Republican Party a failure to the right and vow to push it to the "center" (which I view, essentially, as a giant Middle ground Fallacy anyway) and claim the right in its stead. Invite all Libertarians, Constitution Party members, and Paleocons disgusted with the GOP and form this new Meritocratic Party. It would be necessary to get a bunch of big name supporters to simultaneously endorse it and even convert some big name celebs in a surprise event. Can't be a "minor" party like the old Libertarians, this has to be a threat as a major one on it's inception.
Imagine if Trump made this statement while also extending an apologetic olive branch to PaleoConservatism while also expressing his disdain for neocons, RINOs, cuckservatives, and "crypto-Democrats" (as I like to say). Imagine. Got the idea from Bill Whittle's (superold) "Piranha Party" Afterburner. Meritocrat Piranhas?
In this new 3 party America the new Republicans in the ""center"" would be able to say the this society is a Constitutional Representative *Republic* and their party simply reflects this reality. So then the Democrats and Meritocrats to either side must say that their intent to do is is to modify the society with more Democracy and Meritocracy to the left/right respectively.

I'd also coin the term "Full-Right". A term to oppose the lefty go-tos of "Far" and "Extreme Right" which we will undoubtedly be labeled. "Full Right" refers to the entire thing; that is to say, both lightly right and as right as one could possibly go, and everything in between. It sounds arrogant but history has prove that it is truly the Wrong(left) and the Right.

>>137674348
All nazi imagery. The iron cross is that...yes.

>>137667583
(((Marketing))) fuck off.

>>137667583
"Alt-right" is meaningless. It was invoked because this community needed to be referenced socially. Why stand under an umbrella when it is a sun-shiny day?

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Part 3-ish


Also, regarding AnCaps: reminder that while AnCapism means well and is certainly preferable to statism but is utterly inferior to Laissez-faire Capitalism. LfCap>AnCap for the same reason Minarchism>Anarchism and THAT is because objective law>polycentric law. Read a little of these lexicons to discover why.
http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/anarchism.html
https://fee.org/articles/the-nature-of-government-by-ayn-rand/
Ayn Rand's criticism of pure anarchism is irrefutable, especially in C:TUI and TVoS. I like Molymeme but a case against anarchism can be observed in his attempt, and failure, to "rebutt" Ayn Rand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My2sLnHpyG4
Observe the comment section.

>>137675845
Definitely cool looking. I am skeptical of a black/white separatist alliance working out terribly well, but it would make for good optics.

>>137676940
black+red = evil looking

>>137676750
If you don't realize that wars are won and lost because of marketing you're either a moron or have never studied history in your life.

>>137676575
Me neither. It's only a problem when people are unaware. As soon as you know the "right fellow whites?" Gaslighting is neutralized.

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>>137667583
>Anyone that has a problem with or violates these new rule will from hereon be deemed a shill or mentally unfit and will be cast out of the Alt-Right Movement.

Fuck off faggot.

You don't determine this, debate does.

The #1 rule should be: if you disavow Hitler and the NSDAP, you are a cuck. This will make you look WEAK. It's true on the internet, and it's true in real life--I see no reason why this shouldn't be the case. If this thread is in response to the fake news reporting about "neo-nazis" because of that guy with the swastika flag, you are a fucking retard. The only people who watch/read the fake news are boomers, some Gen X, and commies. Last time I checked we're not reaching out to commies. They are a lost cause.

We are reaching out to the disadvantaged white men under 30. Men who have lost all reason to care about anything. If we look good and project force, they will want to join us. It doesn't matter if we paint Hitler in a positive light. In fact, that will make more people interested. More fake news will talk about it, spurring these men to find out about us. I'm not saying we replicate the NSDAP aesthetic, but disavowing Hitler does absolutely NOTHING but hurt us.

We need as many young white men as we can get. A war is coming. There is no way this can end politically. Those who have mastered the streets will master the state.

>>137676750
OMG you're right. I didn't see it at first but now it all makes sense... Alright guys pack it up. This guy figured it out.

>>137672337
I don't like the way "Traditionalist" rolls off the tongue. I had a thought that something like "Americans United Front". It sounds good, it puts America first, and it pays homage to the national motto. I think a good motto for the movement would be "Divisi Cadimus" - divided we fall.

>>137676523
This cannot be understated. We were lucky that Trump deflected some of the fallout tonight, but he can't do that after every debacle. We as a movement have to grow up and play the game like mature adults and not autistic manchildren.

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>>137676082

This isn't going to be popular, but we need to start letting blacks and Mexicans into the conversation.

Hear me out.

What is the essence of German nationalism? That Germans of all soil must be united right? Volksdeutscher ideology is tailor made for Germans, their nationalism suits the people who evolved in German speaking lands perfectly.

America is different. Like it or not, the leftist meme of "nation of immigrants" is true. We all came from somewhere else. Even when the American colonies were first founded, there were numerous white minorities dispersed amongst the English population. Germans, Swedes, Pollacks, etc. We have always lived near Indians and blacks.

We are collectively the descendants of colonists. We need to throw off the yoke of the colonizers and embrace the role of the colonized. We need to redefine the Monroe Doctrine to not only mean we won't tolerate any state intervention from foreign governments, but we won't tolerate any foreign influence at all. Fuck Europe. Fuck Asia. Fuck Africa. Everything we need is right here.

As for ethnic makeup, I think that we should try to best replicate the racial makeup of the original Thirteen Colonies. White supermajority, small minorities (keyword small) of Natives and mestizos, smaller population of blacks. Hell, you can even do a covert sterilization program of them.

Throw in some environmentalism and anti-corporate mindset and BAM. TR nationalism. It's a winning formula.

>>137676682
I like it. The flag obviously needs to be changed though.

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>>137676453
>Ayn Rand
>wrote a fantasy sex novel about capitalism
>greatest individual to ever walk the face of the earth

KEK

>>137667583
Only morons like white nationalism

>>137677112
No reason to disavow. But wrapping yourself in the garb of the vanquished is a good way to join them.

>>137674806
...but mah identity. How will they know how awesome I am if they don't know I'm a nazi/Alt-right/natsoc/whitepower.

If you wanna to identify yourself as a fucking nazi identitarian snowflake join the left. We are all Americans, we are the majority and we decide who gets to build the wall.

If you have something to say, say it and it will be judged on its merrit and not because its "mah hilter identity".

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Hitler was an art school faggot who got bullied to death by a slav, a cripple and a fat drunk.

>>137667583
You are mentally ill

>>137677004
Blacks can't be evil.

>>137673400

You cannot expunge the Nazis as villains in the minds of the masses. It's nonsense to think otherwise.

The average person will reel in horror without regard to the message you have or the historical education tacked onto it.

yup

>>137667583
Wow OP with a actual IQ?
Can it be?

>>137677304
I don't know about that actually. I think this guy had a really great point. >>137677112 <- We all agree with 12yr naziboo right? I should stop acting like Hitler

>>137677100
Precisely. I'm gonna get shit for this but I take the Jared Taylor approach to the whole matter. If a group is acting in a subversive manner, of course they must be punished/expelled, but I also don't see the sense in alienating those jews loyal to the cause. In our hypothetical new constitution, we should just put in some kind of clause that specifically protects against internationalism.

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>>137675909
Here you go. I don't think it's as good as the first, but it has more usability for Europeans.

>>137677119
kek

>>137674913
People red pill themselves. You can't force a repill down someone's throat. If they want a red pill they will find it.

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>>137667583
Sorry bruh you came to the wrong place, the alt-right is on reddit and twatter

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>>137672555
This sounds good to me anon. I'd be willing to bet that more then 50% of Americans will be fine with this too. Maybe add something about protecting history (both good and bad history). The protecting history part will get many normies behind the movement with what's going on.

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Just so you anons know, I just copy-pasted the thread. I actually disagree with the OP in a couple of ways. Pic related is my actual plan.

>>137675845
Flag of england in the background? I thought this was america...

>>137677729
Not bad, lol

Is this Hoteps actual logo too though?

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hang your alt-right flag here

>>137677380
Yeah. We need to support racial advocacy for all (it's happening regardless). The trick is not to cuck on race not mattering, it does. Hard line on not disrespecting whites. Mutual respect and virtue for Americans.

>>137678156
this is a wise tactic. We need to get minorities flaunting their own nationalism alongside us so we doesn't appear hateful of murderous

>>137678228
Thats a weird looking dick, why it the hair like that?

>>137677729
The first one is way more aesthetic. Isn't the black one literally a "black power" fist?

>>137675252
>This
Hitler has too much baggage to have anything to do with other then using him to troll online. Once we save western civilization we can sort through things later. For right now we need no more unironic Hitler and/or Nazi bullshit period!

>>137677729
That's fucking awesome!

>>137678346

Yeah. No Jews and I'm ok with this. I support allying myself with Latin America because they were expelling Jews back in the 1650s.

>>137678156
Yup. Pragmatism, right there.

>>137677440
She formulated Objectivism, in a way she is even better than Aristotle or Locke because even they did not truly grasp what a primordial evil Altruism truly represents.

>>137678387
I'm a civic nationalist who agrees with a lot of y'all's points, who lives in Charlottesville and has a blasian girlfriend who disagrees with a lot of the Antifa and BLM shit because she's the daughter of a law enforcement officer. I'm planning on using the political unrest in the city to my advantage to try and build support for American nationalist ideals, so I could try to give you guys some exposure in a way that makes the movement relatable to those on the right and left.

>>137677729
>>137678156
This is pretty fucking key if you think about it. Having Hotep allied and fighting alongside us would give us all the excuse to utterly cubstomp the ever loving shit out of Antifa. Imagine the mental breakdown they would have trying to call us Racist Nazis if we were sbs Hotep. It'd be pretty fucking glorious. And always kill a traitor before an enemy nevermind the fact that Hotep isn't even our fucking enemy

>>137678582
hopefully this stuff sinks in. I've been shilling pretty hard on these threads these last few days. That rally was pretty encouraging

>>137677426
Obviously. It is /pol/ only for clear reasons.

>>137667583
>early 2000s
>untermensch kkk supporters holding a rally
OH NO the white race is finished what about muh PR.
>fast-forward to 2015
>dylan roof kills a bunch of niggers
OH NO the white race is finished. what about muh PR?
>hardly two years later
>500 people descend onto the American public
>potentially more
>chanting blutt und boden
>one fat SJW subhuman gets run over
OH NO the white race is finished what about muh PR?

WE ARE GETTING STRONGER
RWDS BY 2022.

>>137676682
>>137676682
No 3rd party will work in the US. It is always an albatross.
Either take over the Democrats or take over the Republicans. Trump got to be President under that banner with sheer will and balls made of solid gold. If you want meritocracy, get it back into the republican party and vote any one out who doesn't tow that line. Vote McCain out and replace him with Kid Rock.

>>137678204
No, but the actual logo is just an ankh. The black power fist is way more aesthetic, so I used it.

>>137677590
Except capitalism, the raise act, aND trumps infastructure plan is really shit. Also tulsi is based

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>>137677523
>>137677112
>I'm not saying we replicate the NSDAP aesthetic

We need to take inspiration from the NSDAP though. If someone says "you look like Nazis" you don't cuck out like OP says either. Cucking is weakness. Weakness is defeat. The fact is, Hitler was right, and white men under 30 will be open to this fact. It doesn't matter what's on fake news CNN or the NYT, none of our target demographic gives a fuck what these jews say. If you just say "Hitler was right" while looking fashy as fuck, our target audience will join us a lot more readily than if you said "well, uh, Hitler wasn't the best guy but he had some good points" as OP would suggest. OP is trying to get as many people as possible to agree with us, but I'm trying to get as many people as possible to join us.

We will not only be a street movement either. We will have milder, "Trumpian" candidates run for City, State, and even Federal office, while our street movement projects authority and power. Much like our relationship to the NSDAP, our candidates will not disavow us, but they will also have no formal relationship with us either. We need savvy, politically minded people for this job, people who can adopt the Trump strategy and use it for our own purposes. We need to form a "Nationalist caucus" within State and Federal Congresses, which will be between both Alt-Right and Alt-Lite congressmembers, and ultimately takeover the Republican party, much like communists and kikes did the Democratic party.

>>137667583
Jared Taylor > Dickie Spencer tbqh famalam

>>137678625
It's important for leadership to be hip to the JQ. Chosen rank and file don't seem like a problem.

>>137679023
Hmmm... You're right fellow LEAF... We should fucking LARP as Nazis and hang with Neo-Nazis to our hearts desire because this is something we want to do in the first place to begin with

>>137677440
Her books were manuals for how to create a perfect world and everyone but me here is a cuck

>>137667583
Why reinvent the wheel when the Constitution Party is an actual 3rd party that ignores racism but embrace every other alt-right ideology.

>>137678859
civic nationalism isn't mutually exclusive from white nationalism. I think we could have different policies for different states. Some legally white, others multicultural

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>>137678859
Cool! just made @amtradparty on Twitter

Charlottesville looked crazy.

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>>137668199

>. The Alt-right needs to reject Neo-Nazis, and White Supremacists. White Nationalism is fine

Lmao, its already in the public consciousness that White Nationalism=Nazi.

NAZIS LOSE AGAIN SUCK MY ANTIFA CALIFORNIA SCROTUM

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>>137677663
>12 yr naziboo
I'm sure, leaf. Why don't you bring a FUCKING ARGUMENT before you talk shit.
Or has the estrogen in Canadastan's water gotten to you already?

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>>137677112
>This will make you look WEAK<
...Europeans are gone but at least I didn't look weak. I've got an image to after.

Fuck0off

>>137677963
Is that the u.s flag if japan won ww2?

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>>137679023
Charlottesville was a win. I just want to win harder.

>>137679384
CivIL rights act

>>137672837
This. Any time pride for your ancestors comes up mention how blacks should be proud of their ancestors in the great Zulu Empire.

>>137671268
> there are no nazis
> hasnt seen the footage from charlottesville of fat nazi larpers and confederate hick larpers

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>>137667583
>"nazis"

>>137672682
Is 'Body bags for Antifags' too far?

>>137679026
This is correct. An official party status is a waste of time

>>137679805
Stop crying like a baby

>>137667583
Doesn't matter OP, anybody right of Stalin gets called a Nazi at this point. Might as well go full retard with it for the lulz and asshurt

>>137678897
That's why I want this alliance to succeed. Part of the reason why white Americans are afraid to support white nationalism is because they're afraid of pissing off niggers. If nogs actually support separatism, then normies won't be afraid to support us. It's pretty ironic that the best way to separate the races is to unite them.

Also, where's the leaf that started the last thread and said he was contacting the Hoteps?

>>137677112
You're right, OP's point was badly phrased, and yes, this should be a debate. And I agree, we should be showing strength, we should be projecting a purpose, a path to something greater for our base. We agree on that.

Now it's your job to debate why publicly couching that message in the imagery of America's greatest stereotypical villain will somehow advance that aim.

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>>137667583
You don't belong here faggot.

>>137667583

he's right you know

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>>137667583

>>137678852
>they did not truly grasp what a primordial evil Altruism truly represents.
Altruism is just a product of natural selection to our ancient european environment. It is arguably why we are able to build such glorious societies. "Ayn Rand" is a kike who uses the same kind of non-empirically based arguments as Freud or Boas. "Ayn Rand" is a kike who sees nature as evil because it is not created by man. She would have the world turn into an industrial, mixed race, corporate hellhole.

>>137679814
Cant call them antifags cause that would mean antigay.. Cant leave the anti part cause it fails all the ways to make fun of their name...

Cal the Panzyfags,, or Pantyfa ... Or PantyFarts... whatever

>>137679384
I know. Still, I'm not a fan of focusing on race. I think it's important, and that whites shouldn't bear the burden of being the world's bad guys, but I think that having that as the main sticking point of the movement is unwise. My political philosophy is that an American is an American, and Americans are inherently better than everyone else, no matter their race or sex, so long as they work night and day to better themselves for the sake of our Union.
>>137679412
It was. I work in the UVA hospital. It was . . . less than enjoyable.

>>137673375
Neither are white people; but weve still claimed it as ours

>>137679164
You get it. Although I disagree about "Hitler was right" being good rhetoric. Maybe just "Cool" or "Ok" and move on.

>>137679814
not too far right, but just right

>>137679914
That's me, lol. Havent heard back from them...

>>137679023
bump.
One thing people miss is that we were PHYSICALLY REMOVED by the state police.
They infringed on our rights as Americans
We are the true resistance to the establishment

>>137679301
Bro it's ok, I read her stuff in highschool too. She made some great points.

Lol we cuckservatives nao senpai

>>137667583
>Alright listen up fuckers because this is how things are going to work from now on. Either you follow these instructions or your movement dies.

OH NO GUYS WE BETTER LISTEN!!!

>>137667583
>The Alt-right
Who is this "alt-right" you are talking about?

Traditionalist anything is too predictable. We are not only the past, we are the future.

Western Civilization
We are Western Civilization. We are it's progeny. We are it's defenders. It is eternal. That is what we should go by.

We don't need to commit to a single economic system, system of government, or religion. Capitalism, socialism, fascism, democracy, liberalism, conservatism. Christian, Pagan. We are all of these things and more. These are our concepts. We simply choose that which is most adaptive to our current conditions, which for the foreseeable future includes nationalism.

And, best of all, when the headlines are filled with celebrities and media "condemning Western Civilization", people will start googling Western Civilization and finding pictures of Aristotle, Galileo, and Isaac Newton. They will see their own origins being condemned and they might actually put two and two together.

>>137670272I like it

>>137680168
I used to think in a similar way. I just think that attitude (individualism and social liberalism) is only possible with a secure white majority

>>137680310
Charlottesville NC that wouldn't have happened
Charlottesville VA, where the DEMOCRAT governor decided to use declaring a state of emergency to override the federal constitution, then condemned Trump for not disavowing "nazis" fast enough, big fucking surprise. it's Dem territory these days

>>137679359
Traditionalism isn't about the constitution.

"Hey man, how do I live life?"

"Oh, like, just do the constitution man."

Not enough for modernity's lost children

>>137680202
>Although I disagree about "Hitler was right" being good rhetoric.
It's good rhetoric for the street movement and supporters. Our political operatives would say something vague, something that people could interpret many different ways, but will also be a dogwhistle to us.

>>137675172
This. Rules for Radicals Rule 7: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news. (Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved, organizers are constantly coming up with new tactics.)

The 'alt-right' is old news to normies by now. You have to realize that normies are ADHD ridden video game playing children who get tired of movements after a week.

>>137667583
Fuck off kike.

>>137680193
lions still don't live here naturally tho

>>137679412
I just added you on twatter. My top posts are talking about this stuff.. Can we use your twitter to coordinate? I don't feel like revealing my twitter at this time

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>>137677112
>We are reaching out to the disadvantaged white men under 30. Men who have lost all reason to care about anything. If we look good and project force, they will want to join us.<

No, white men under 30 don't win elections because we are disappearing.

You know what you get when you look good and project force and paint hitler in a positive light...you get mal-adjusted individuals who have no bearing in life and look to the past for fucking glory.

Hilter is cancer. You wanna win elections you need to dictate the republican party agenda. It's already been done. Trump is in office and instead of supporting him, you're all "we won, zeig heil"

We're in the middle of it and you're just fucking off.

>>137667583
Go to bed, William.

Winning points for our movement:

1) Shields (this was a great idea, we need more of these. The optics will prove who the real victims and attackers are.)
2) Silence
3) Pacifism
4) Free speech
5) Patriotism
6) Respect for the Law
7) Respect for Police
8) Outreach to LEGAL immigrants
9) Outreach to desirable civilized racial minorities (e.g. Japanese, Koreans)

Losing points for our movement:
1) Weapons. This is Antifa bullshit, cut it out.
2) Slogans. Any words can and will be twisted and misrepresented. They can't spin silence.
3) Violence. Can't win any hearts this way because people instinctively want to avoid violence.
4) Racism. Even if you are racist as fuck stop talking about "niggers" and "Jews" because again it's not helpful, accomplishes nothing, and persuades no one. A message of hate proves we're no better than our enemies.
5) Nazi bullshit. Seriously cut this shit out.

>>137670762
Jesus, Canada cool your jets. Nobody is going to like you more no matter who you "denounce"

>>137678195
Sorry, that was unintentional. I was trying to cover the cross (traditionalism) with red (courage, blood). Ironically, it could actually work your way as well, representing our English background.

>>137677119
You so sleepy. maybe it's time to go to bed.

WOW YOU FUCKING FACISTS, THIS REALLT LOOKS LIKE WINNING.

KEEP ON TYPING THOSE LONG PARAGRAPHS, KEYBOARD WARRIORS, IT'S REALLY GOING TO HELP CHANGE PUBLIC OPINION.

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>>137679814
Cool it with the homophobic remarks ;P

>>137675845
THE CELTIC CROSS WILL ALWAYS BE ASSOCIATED WITH NAZIS

THE SECOND SOMEONE SEES THAT THEY IMMEDIATELY THINK NAZI

THERE ARE LITERALLY MILLIONS OF OTHER SYMBOLS YOU CAN CHOSE FROM. STOP FUCKING USING THE SAME 5 SYMBOLS THAT ARE BLATANTLY FROM WHITE SUPREMACIST GROUPS YOU RETARDS

>>137672555
this is not a cucky organizing blog

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When that fails we can fall back on pic related.

>>137680612
That's understandable. Still, I'll be trying to grow my political base with my views, but in doing so I'll definitely try to embody the views of this movement whenever possible (which won't be hard - most of our views intersect, it's just the ones that are focused upon are different).

I think that we need a coherent set of political goals for this movement so that we can begin to sell it.

>>137670809
T_d gtfo. Your "le Trump movement" is kike approved.

beat, rape, kill :)

>>137680076
I love Ayn but altruism is innate so we have to work around it. No government alms would be a good rule though.

>>137681020
what is that, a flag for ants?

>>137681102
faggot likes failing because he is a faggot

>>137680747
but we also need people talking about us. If we change our name too often, then people won't understand who we are. The Alt-Right needs to stay a cohesive, recognizable brand. We need to keep shifting our tactics so people keep saying "look what the Alt-Right did this week". The "Alt-Right" won't become old news if we shift our tactics. If we change our brand, we'll become unrecognizable.

>>137680733
No disagreement here.

>>137667583
An alrmingly shitty post if Ive ever seen one

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>>137667583
Fuck you faggot, this is the most clear attempt at divide and conquer I've ever seen

>>137677649
Rarer on /pol/ than a chick without a dick

You Civic nationalist are cancer. Enjoy being another pawn in the kike game le_trumpers.

>>137680784
Sure. I'll look through my followers

>>137673930
Of course not Alberto, how's al Andalus this time of year? Collectivism is necessary for the preservation of the circumstances for which the individual is grown out of. Collectivism is vital to preserve the group and its culture, therefore guaranteeing it a future.

In summary a civilisation must balance individualism and collectivism for it to survive.

>>137680307
Oh, I'm sure we'll here back. By the way, what did you say when you contacted them? I hope they didn't find it too 14/88.

>>137680822
That's sick. Sauce?

>>137667583
Agreed. Trump just bailed out the Alt-Reichtards who should learn from this past weekend that they do way more harm than good. They need to leave their "edgy memes" at home and let the grown ups handle this

>>137680846
This!

>>137681266
Yeah you can succeed at appeasing kikes and normies to the point of destroying your race.

>>137680798
>>137679164
>We will not only be a street movement either. We will have milder, "Trumpian" candidates run for City, State, and even Federal office, while our street movement projects authority and power. Much like our relationship to the NSDAP, our candidates will not disavow us, but they will also have no formal relationship with us either.

Also, you didnt' read my whole first post. This won't end politically. There will be a lot of street violence. Charlottesville was only the beginning. The street needs radicals, not people who are there to socialize.

>>137681271
Yeah I guess you have a point. We have to make an effort to tone down (not completely ban) the Kekistan/Milo shit though. They're a good way to get really young kids like high schoolers joining us but normie adults have started to see them as cringe.

>>137681321
Or you just have terrible fucking judgement and continue to do the same thing over and over expecting different results. Nazi = death of western civilization and you ending up as some pathetic martyr that sets back white identity another 100+ years because you can't let it fucking GOOOooooooooo. Spending 80% of everyones energy justifying/defending Nazi shit is killing any hope of a lasting modern identity movement. Fuck off.

>>137681020
Not American enough despite how awesome it is.

Saved anyway

>>137672337
>>137672871
>>137672953
>>137675845
>>137676573
>>137676682
>>137677729
>>137677963
>>137680726
>>137680822
>>137680895

Cute flags shitbrain. I see you must have received at most a B in your high school graphic design class.

You do realize that no matter what worthless flag you dumplings mspaint together, it will ALWAYS BE ASSOCIATED WITH NAZIS.

Eat shit Alt-Right dumplings :^)

>>137677729
Overwatch and Black power. Perfect

>>137681321
Even aglin wants the LARP reduced

>>137679849
There a huge difference with idiots calling you nazi and you calling yourself nazi. This is the lowest tier idiocy.

>>137681671
I get that youre memeing but Nazis only had one shot and one miss, its not even a trend if theres only one data point

>>137680956
That's why I made an Identitaire flag just in case you guys found it too Nazi-ish.

>>137667583
>oy vey, you goys beddah reject duh damn nazis or yah movement is gonna die!
>it'd be anuddah shoah for yah ideology ya stupid goy

>>137681565
>thinking strategically = loss
please get off this thread and let the adults talk little tyke

>>137667583
test

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>>137679914

>>137679359
because black people

>>137681976
-icles

>>137679958
> I'm not saying we replicate the NSDAP aesthetic
what do you think this means?
I'm not trying to 'couch' anything in the NSDAP.

>but disavowing Hitler does absolutely NOTHING but hurt us.
because our target demographic (under 30 white men) have nothing to live for, they don't care about what their school told them about Hitler. People generally don't respond to logic, they respond to appearances. If we look good, more white men will join us.

>>137681757
Literally who?

Yeah better listen to the faggot who has to use a fake flag because he doesn't want to be made fun of for being a leaf.

>>137667583
majority of Nazi shit is david brock/shareblue psyops because of the reasons you identify. these idiots will walk into a buzzsaw if they try to spark a civil war in the short-medium future. they simply don't have the manpower or the geography.

>>137679515
You will be destroyed along with the rest

>>137680846
This looks like a list you would find on buzzfeed.
This is probably one big shill thread desu.

>>137681838
So you're fucking retarded then? Nazi shit is NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN. EVER. We'll all be dead and gone and our race will have been eradicated before Nazi shit resonates in any way for the 14 words to come into focus. Stop being retarded. You're fucking everything up. Be a fucking Nazi in your basement. Heil Hitler over your TV dinner all fucking day. Stop wasting everyones time and effort by poisoning any chance to get identitarian ideas off the ground floor. It's fucking dumb. Anyone who thinks it's not dumb, are in fact dumb.

>>137681424
No I just told them we should feam up since we hate the same people and we could use them to fight against the racist nazi meme and asked what we could do for them

>>137681185
We don't have to work around altruism--we embrace it while also embracing our other qualities. One of the driving forces for colonialism was "civilizing the savages" and "the white man's burden". Sounds pretty altruistic to me. Because of that altruism, europeans conquered the world.

Remember, we are cucked compared to our ancestors. We don't have the violent, conquering nature they did.

>>137680846
Yes definitely, but I'm afraid the movement has to be ethnic - not racist mind. Shouting "kike" "nigger" etc. Is completely detrimental so is the nazi shit, why can't these people advocate for whites as a group (their survival etc) without going full LARP/Hitler worship?
Also the cops thing, they will be used against us, they're not "on our side" however staying respectful for them is a winning strategy.

Hitler was a pussy.

Well guys, it's been fun, but I've gotta go to bed. Keep the thread going, and when it 404s, create a new one. Link it here so others can find it. I'd recommend posting the OP's copypasta as well as my expanded notes here: >>137678156

Of course, all my flags are free to save and edit as you wish. Additionally, try to ensure that the Hotep alliance follows through. That would be a major bonus for the cause.

I trust that you guys will get this done. Sieg heil and good night!

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>>137667583
This is a good thread, keep posting this. I would suggest normie clothing from now on and good'ol american flags. Imagine a bunch of chads carrying american flags? how could they call that racist?

>>137681321
Like I said, this is probably one big shill thread. There's like 3 different shills who have posted 10+ times each.

>>137680645
They are also dominoinst and want that Judeo-Christian legal system.

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>>137681536
once again, sweetie posting. You're not hiding your true colors very well sweetie.

George Washington>Adolf Hitler

Minutemen>Feminine gayboy nazis

>>137680390
I agree, it's a bad phrasing. Doesn't mean the content of the message isn't worthy of discussion.

I know how much we love to shout at each other through the anonymity of a Mongolian bobsleding forum, but just this once, let's try to give each other the benefit of the doubt.

>>137682812
yeah I swear Bill kristol is in here somewhere

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>>137672871
No more nazi imagery that really fucked us up.

>>137682798
Scientific racism is a foundation of /pol/, we need for the word itself to lose meaning

>>137682006
I couldn't help but notice some of your white brothers openly talking about aligning themselves with Black Separatists to achieve mutual exclusive ethnic states.

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Degenerates like this will kill any white identitarian movement before it starts. Blacks know not to bring out the gang bangers, so why can't whites get that straight? Hook up with black identitarians George Rockwell and Malcolm X got along, so why can't we. Oh that's right, because fucking dipshit punks who like to role play as nazis can't work with other people even if their goals are the same. Seriously it's been said once it's been said a thousand times the 88 is holding back the 14.

>>137682283
Do you want to win, or not, is what you need to decide

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All because of this religious freedom! Too much freedom, too many gods. Let those cultist cur-dogs run loose, and they will bite you. Gods! While our governments cower in fear...

>4chan larps as Nazis in the early 2010s because it's the most offensive thing they can find.
>Having to research their larping for authenticity, anons swing themselves right IRL inadvertently.
>4chan helps to elect Donald Trump because he's a killer combination of right wing and fucking hilarious.
>Regardless of how serious their impact really was, anons convince themselves and others they were key to the outcome, increasing the site's popular exposure exponentially.
>4chan now needs to justify its ideological position, and sets to work building a legitimate political movement out of a mixture of the old outrageous offensiveness and a new genuine concern for the state of the world following Merkel's Mistake.

What a rollercoaster of emotions.

>>137681838
You do realize that 99.9% of American's ancestors were LITERALLY FUCKING KILLED BY NAZIS right? You might as well be flying a fucking North Korean flag because it will be just as unpopular as a Nazi flag in the eyes of the normies. This isn't about being a complete faggot like the Kekistan guys but for fucks sakes you're given so much potential, so many different symbols and ideologies to chose from to represent white men and the west, yet you chose the one symbol that existed for like 10 years in our nearly 3,000 years of history that people who are still alive today fought against and you seriously expect normies to just magically all go 'Oh yeah I guess you do have a point! HITLER DID NOTHING WRONG 1488 GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW' before 2060 WHEN WE'RE MINORITIES AND OUR RACE BEGINS TO BE COMPLETELY WIPED OFF THE FACE OF THE ENTIRE PLANET FOREVER AND NEVER TO RETURN. FUCK.

>>137676640
Exactly. We show our pride with class, resolve and sincere patriotism. The left shows their pride through pussy hats, gay parades and raging mobs. It's an easy choice for most Americans.

>>137667583
(((ALT RIGHT)))

>>137680012
I like it.

>>137677729
Autistic as fuck. Wtf are these fucking flags. Hoteps don't even want separatism, but more gibs while they improve their situation.

>>137681271
>we also need people talking about us<

If you brand anything else other than republican eventually you will be associated with Nazis and racist. You need association with a large established group that wins elections and that's the republicans because you sure as shit won't get the democrats behind you.
If you want people talking about you, it shouldn't be because you have a stupid symbol. You don't control the narrative. You have to be likable and be awesome, period.
The alt-right was never news other than bad news. If you drunk the cool-aid, that's your problem. You will never sell white superiority or a white ethno state in the US to a group that will win elections.

White Anglo Saxon Protestant Americans piss off the left more than Hitler. Enough of the National Socialism bullshit. Keep the fucking government out of my business. That's how this country was founded.

>>137680390
Kill yourself. You're only hurting us.

>>137667583
irrelevant, as the media has already been using the terms alt-right and nazi interchangeably since the vehicular incident, starting the buildup since Trumps campaign.

>>137683297
>>137681838

^ This 3000 years you could pick from, any symbol from ancient Greece to the enlightenment era. But no you guys picked the one thing that started the most devastating war in history as your symbol. Pick a roman flag or some shit, no one is alive that fought romans.

>>137680076
>Ayn Rand" is a kike who sees nature as evil
No just as a thing to be conquered. How about you actually readher shit socialist?

>>137677380
We should attack the Lefts desire to label everyone by race. How long do we have to be a country before all citizens are simply "American" and not "American-[insert your race here]." The Left seeks to divide us. The Right seeks to United us.

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>>137667583
>The Alt-right

THE ALT RIGHT ISN'T FUCKING REAL

There is no "movement"

Don't you retards get it? The media created the meaningless label "alt-right" to attach to anyone that doesn't conform to their leftist narrative. Literally anyone. They do this so they can lump everyone they don't like into one easy to target group. Natsocs, libertarians, conservatives of all types. The media will call you "alt-right nazi" because their definition of "alt-right" includes literally everyone who isn't a leftist.

Stop buying into mainstream media lies. This "movement" as you describe it is successful because it isn't centralized and the media can't attack "it". It is made up of the millions of enemies leftists have made all fighting against them for their own individual reasons.

The media desperately needs a centralized opposition in order to destroy them. They need to find a way to turn the chaotic hoard that is their enemy into a centralized target in order for their attacks to stick and have any affect. They can not smear us. They can not demonize us. They can not intimidate us. They can not silence us because we exist not as an organised group, but millions of disconnected individuals all fighting to destroy them.

That is what the "alt-right" is. The media establishment has been frantically searching for a clear target so their attacks will stick. In reality it's quite impossible. Watch them desperately try to will our "movement" into existence with poorly executed false flag events and payed off figureheads that identify as "alt-right".

The left is being attacked on all fronts. They desperately need a clear target to land their hits and give their base a clear view of their enemy. Let's not give it to them. Being against leftism is not a "movement". All organized movements can be corrupted and destroyed. The leadership can be infiltrated, bribed, attacked, blackmailed and much more. Millions of disconnected people fighting a common enemy can not.

>>137681311
Not an argument. Eat a hundred bags of dicks you derailing fuckhead.

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Posting How to Win Friends and Influence People because I get the sense that too many of us debate/argue with normies over things they find racist/offensive instead of carefully making them believe they already agree with us.

>>137683297
99.9% of Americans are not hysterical jews

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How about a fasces?

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>>137681321
You're right, we're cutting out the cancer of this board and eliminating it. Divide and conquer, as it were.

>>137681606
Larptard, you are not the majority. You will get your shit pushed in because less than 10% of the population support Nazis/Alt-right/NatSoc/WhiteSprms.
Patriots only support you because of the first amendment but we loathe you.
You are living in a fantasy and your idiocy is contributing to the failure of western states and europeans.

Grow the fuck up.

>>137682228
Yeah pretty much

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>>137680931
What's a "facist?"

>>137674745
Terrific arguement schlomo

>>137684001
Thank you for proving me right when I say good Canadians still exist. Best neighbors ever.

>>137679224
Chosen rank and file will derail trust me anjew

>Judeo-Christian
Stop this cringey meme pls, I'm tired of it.
>oy vey all ya culture, legal systems and spirituality come from us goy

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>>137684433
Also I would like to add that if we can make some youtube videos that summarize books like this we could easily train members in these tactics. Don't expect most people to read books in today's ADHD ridden age. However if we can take books like How to Win Friends and Influence People or The 48 Laws of Power and summarize them into 5 minute youtube videos we can train tons of people.

>>137682661
Altruism is great when moderated by the rest of our nature. It's the rejection of everything else that turns it dangerous. I agree.

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>>137683263
get a grip, sheila, long road ahead

>>137667583
Tl dr you dumb faggot

Why not just keep old glory?If Antifags are attacking a group with American flags that's the easiest Redpill for Boomers and Millennial's How can the jooo media spin it they cant.Keep it simple stupid.

>>137683829

/pol/ was doing just fine before all you faggots came along. now that the winds have shifted you pile of faggots come marching in and act like you own the place. scurry back off to whatever pragmatic and relativistic whole you crawled out of.

I am a man of principles. I am a man of ideals. I do not give 2 fucks about what you think is expedient or useful and I will not compromise my ideals for you faggots, especially considering that faithfully bearing the weight of fascist ideals is what has gotten us this far.

>>137682706
Ethnic = Racist

Everyone still knows what you're talking about.

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>>137682661
>embrace
>Altruism
Annnnd the crypto-leftists mask slips.

>>137675845
think of it like a venn diagram, then it makes sense. and yes if you are sincere then this can work out. if this is jsut a somkescreen or some other eurokikery, then don't bother because once you betray the alliance then you're done for. so don't post this unless you are very VERY fucking serious about a lasting winable solution. you only get this one shot. don't blow it.
the red is the blood that we share as human beings (exchangeable, human blood) the upper and lower of each side shows a common issues and the vertical line is our respective boundries of racial identity (you're YOU and i'm ME)
this is a great flag, but don't squander it on frivolity.
my 2 cents.
also: the "loaded" racial icons are what make it work, strong DEFENDERS of each side acknowledging and respecting each others boundries, and yet still finding a legitimate commonality to purging weakness and corruption form our ranks and our nation.

>>137674468
eep le boomer

>>137683135
Scientific racism is reality. A is A and all that. It can be separated from the useless shit. And it ruins the equal outcomes degenerates.

Asians have a higher IQ? Guess it's time to Gas myself and Europe.

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>>137667583
the albatross is not immune to paradigm shift.

tell me how that does not invalidate your entire argument, 100% tosses it out the window.

i have the mental capacity to argue with you and my argument is this; why stop it?

are things not favorable for us? surely you saw the photos from cville....

>>137683263
You forgot Kek. Never forget Kek.

>>137682661
I'll be altruistic. To me! And my caring for myself interest will help others.

>>137683944
Her disdain for nature is a problem. She's a great lass but not the be all end all.

>>137684881
Hahaha no, ethnic nationalism doesn't have to be "racist" in the modern conception as "racist" implies hatred.

>>137683992
Well. It's been hundreds of years with no progress, so forever probably.

Time to embrace race and not hating each other simultaneously. Welcome to freedom of association.

>>137667664
nice rare flag

>>137684733
I should be on that map. One of the bastards chased me under a caravan once when I was little, had to hide for almost an hour before the bastard got distracted and I made a break for it.

>>137684173
Great book

>we must compromise everything we are and everything we have if we want to get anywhere
>even though we got as far as we have today by being stubborn and uncompromising in the face of leftist demands.
You fags did this shit during the election, saying Trump will never be president if he doesn't start sounding more professional and be more compromising to the democrats. Fuck off. Take your civic nationalism shit to /r/the_donald and fucking stay there.

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>>137684705
Altruism is literally never, ever great. Watch these and try to tell me it is defensible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv3VkSwhhkU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viGkAZR-x8s
Rest assured that Altruism is the great singular primordial evil of the world with only irrationalism being a baser one.

Read "The Virtue of Selfishness"

>>137685815
How is
>We refuse to let white nations be replaced by third world immigrants and if you so dare pull out a commie flag I'll kick your fucking shit in you little fag. Also let's go feed homeless vets to show that we care for our community.
'compromising to the democrats'? You're literally just complaining because you can't be an edgy fag with a Nazi flag anymore.

>>137672975

I agree!

100 percent! We just want to make America great again. We WANT a wall and no illegal immigration. We want the rule of law. We want fair elections with ID's. We want a media that speaks the truth. We want fair pay and employment for all legal citizens. We want made in America, and we DO NOT WANT MORE MUSLIMS HERE.

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>>137676523

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What he said!

>>137685705
terrifying animal

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>>137667583
bumping with white ethno state aesthetics

>>137677963
this flag should be a "battle / wartime" flag. the eagle looks to war while holding onto peace (war to restore a peacetime that is lost) and the jap kamakaze background shows we will go to any and all lengths to win in order to secure that peace.
my 2 cents.
also: invokes a spirit of the samurai (jew fear the samurai) while still recognizing the 50 United States and the hope of a restored peacetime after victory is achieved.

>>137667583

OP is right, if I see any of you nazi larper fucks at the next rally I'm taking you out personally when your back is turned and you'll never even know who did it. The future of our people is too important to let some decrepit reactionary fetishists jeopardize the movement. You have been warned.

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>>137686071
Pro-tip: You're not stopping yourselves from being nazis, you're just making new nazi flags. Nothing will change that. The goal you need now is to show that American nazis aren't bad, because you're always going to be seen as "those guys my grandpappy killed!"

There was a man that started putting nazis in a positive light in America before he was assassinated. Study him, and things can start falling into place.

>>137667583
that's not how populism works you fucking retard, you can't just reject people because something they did "hurt your feelings"
Besides, unlike you liberals, we do have standards.
Now go ahead, call me a shill. Call me a shill and watch me laugh at your futile efforts.

>>137667583
Also, since you are clearly incapable of educating yourself
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

>>137678156
just change "white" to "our" and it reads:

"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for our children."

there, fixed and palatable. easy, peasy. blacks can say it whites can say it. americans can say it, europeans can say it. there's your slogan WITHOUT compromising your core principles (ethnicstate). honestly, why /pol/ not think of this earlier??
put this logo on your aliance flag concept, SOLD. but don't DO it UNLESS your are fucking SERIOUS about it. this is high level meme-mojo. nuclear-fallout type shit. not some poopoopee kidshit. ok?

>>137686832
not that douche. no.

>>137685958
Altruism, like empathy, was proven to be an evolved behavior in the 90s
its a complex behavioral survival mechanism, to ensure the survival of your offspring, and is highly dependent upon there being others of your "tribe" that will respond to such efforts
You really should look it up sometime, the study was rather fascinating

You fucks realize the Feds larp around as Nazi and KKK. This isn't Fucking Comic-Con.