Alt-Right 2.0 - Rise of the Phoenix

>>137615169

>Get rid of Nazi symbolism
>Stop using 'White nationalist'

I agree with all this. It's our move now. Either we completely give into the retards or we actually make this into something good.

Or we let North Korean bullshit and falsehood distract us and end the party alltogether and let the military get an excuse to send troops to places we don't know where

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We need some legit chants too. Retarded crao like "White Lives Matter"(who's fucking idea was this)? or "Heebs will not divide us" are awful.

One of the best chants that I've heard come out of the Alt-Right was "You can't run, you can't hide, you get helicopter rides" It was absolutely perfect for so many reasons.

Another good one that stays with the Alt-Rights dark humor but not getting into Kikes and Nazis which is jokes online but doesn't play well IRL would be to fuck with Antifa by making fun of the antifa landwhale that got taken our by /Our Car/

Somethign with the term "Car of Peace" in it.

I might be going a little too far here with this one but these are some things we actually really need to think about. We need to step up our game if we're going to be representing the Alt-Right out in public

Can we please get some suggestions for things liek tactics to use going forward. I listened to last episode of Weimerica Weekly today and he had mentioned getting permits to bait Antifa and the Police together and just not showing up or going elsewhere and letting the two of them have fun with eachother. More ideas like this please?

>>137615799
white nationalism existed long before Hitler's Germany dipshit, they're not necessarily related.

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On the internet, the Nazi/Hitler stuff is gold. It puts asses in seats. IRL, it is definitely bad optics.

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>>137616736
This.

We can actually do this guys. Like, the Front National is trying to rebrand right now but they're so fucking stupid that they haven't been able to come up with anything yet(I know, I'm on contact with them). We, on the other hand, are smart AF, and we can turn this shit-tanker around in a single thread.

>Also, please note that the Alt-Right has more factions than just the Nat Socs.. The Nat Socs are just the one's that have the particularly toxic and reviled branding/packaging.

^ We can unite the right when it comes to a lot of these factions but "White Supremacists" and Neo-Nazis,or anything having to do with Nazis period will no longer be involved with the Alt-Right going forward. AT ALL. PERIOD

>>137616451
"All Lives Matter" would actually be a good slogan, since it includes whites, normies are very receptive to it, and it infuriates BLM and the radical left, which in turn repulses normies.

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We have hundreds of thousands if not millions of people that laugh at the thought of attacking or killing people of the Alt-Right .. That's not fucking good. But I've gotten to know the people of the Alt-Right over the passed couple of years and obviously if you're not a person that is yelling at them for being a "NAZI" at the top of your lungs then you would know that they are some or the coolest and smartest people on our planet.

>>137615169
Makes sense. rebranding is the (((they))) do all the time.

>>137616451
we could always make a joke like

"Why does the world run on oil, Cough cough cough... "

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>>137618697
"(Blank) Lives Matter" is a HORRIBLE chant because it is associated with the terrorist organization BLM. BLM, Antifa, the Media, the governments and police are our main enemies.

Other chants that are horrible: "Whos streets, our streets" or any other chant that is used by leftists groups whatsoever.

We are going to come up with our own more clever chants... For starts we can think of some of the Alt-Rights major accomplishments or milestone and craft them around those... Inserting Donald Trump quotes into them might be a great place to start because everything he says triggers the shit out of leftists... "Something, something, you have to go back!!!"

He has many infamous quotes we could ue for maximum effectiveness

>>137616451
Speaking of Weimerica I think it's pretty clear that the reactionaries and alt-right need each other. Alt-right needs the thinkers and reactionaries need the popular support. The faux-elitist reactionaries that believe that we should do literally nothing are not helping even themselves.

Even the Hitlers front loaded the Socialist part of their program and kept all the Final Solution and einsatzgruppen stuff well under wraps. Most of the world didnt know anything about it.

But, they were smart and neo nazis are tards

>>137615169
>reject Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists

Wait, How about we just reject everything that isn't hardline communism and then nobody can possibly associate us with what we want to achieve

>>137620207
Well it's not like we're explicitly saying Gas the kikes but the Nazi imagery is too easy.

The real problem with UTR was the complete lack of screening. There were only like 30 guys with Nazi flags why the fuck weren't they shut down?

Also no more trust with the police. Organize secretly. Tell antifa you'll rally somewhere, then choose a different spot. Flash mob, 15 minutes, leave.

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>>137619702
"Your Culture! Is Crap! You have to go back!!" or something? Didn't they have one.. ohh..

Something about "You're fags! Go home! You have low testosterone!" < - that one was fucking GOLD

>>137615169
This...

It is time for us fucktards to grow the fuck up. If you want a war for America, this is a war were our opponent controls all avenues of mass communications and all we have is the 1st amendment. You will not win this on the streets. We won the white house because of this place. Be David against Goliath. Be smart Anon.

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>>137615169
Well I guess you need to stop using our board if you dont want to be associated with us. Back to plebbit. This poll was taken before you shills showed up, so it really doesnt matter what you have in response. /pol/ has always been primarily National Socialist, ancaps dont even exist, they came afterwards. They arent /pol/acks, thats TRS. They care about money more than genocide.

>>137624279
He is talking about in real life, not on the internet.

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>>137619702
The point should be to stop disparaging low tier aspects of the opposition and instead to counteract their main ethos.

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>>137620593
His point is to lessen the public image of our doctrines to be so blatantly tied to a near universally reviled history. He's mad, and has every right to be, because we have been given multiple opportunities to enact a campaign of progress for our ideals and have came to such events with our heads up our asses.

Start arguing with an ethos, not with your frame.

> White Nationalism is fine, we can easily sell this to anybody with more than a couple of brain cells until the cows come home.

>we can easily sell this to anybody with more than a couple of brain cells until the cows come home.

You sound awful and I will not listen to your advice.

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>>137624279
Nobody in the Alt-Right gets to identify as National Socialists anymore. Did I not make myself clear in the OP? You're allowed to identify as State Socialists or you can come up with a better term. Fuck off if you don't like it shill. This is a hostile takeover, if you want to identify as a National Socialist then leave. We will physically remove your retarded asses in public too

I agree, we must distance ourselves from the Nazis, KKK, and White Nationalists. They are bad for PR and the dishonest MSM is having a field day blaming all Conservatives. Let's not fall for this Soros trap again.

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>>137624279
He's talking about real politics, not internet meme material. You can be as NatSoc as Hitler himself, but you're going to get absolutely shit on if you try and have any political impact under that frame.

>>137616451
>Heebs will not divide us
They actually chanted this? The madmen.

>>137626256
White Nationalist is fine, Supremacist is not. A white supremacist idealogy is only useful if you're planning on overtaking the entire globe.

Then again the media has now bastardized the term White Nationalist and they did it deliberately this weekend. We could pivot to the term Ethno-Nationalist.. <-- Then what will the jews says? Will they accuse us of being evil when this same term can be used to describe them?

>>137615169
Why not just
American Nationalist Party
or something similar that doesn't have the connotation of "Nazi."
It includes Whites and not Whites, yet it can embody our political and economic policies just the same. It needs to be a lilly pad from which to leap ahead incrementally. We can jump right to full blown national socialism because people don't understand it, and are programmed to think that it's evil and racist, etc. Even though we are peaceful people trying to save mankind. All it needs is a new name, new flag, new symbol, and adaptability to its host countries, in this case America. Trump was one thing, Charlottesville another, now we need our party unified and able to defend against leftist attacks and infiltration. We gotta look good to regular people, and comprise ourselves of good, regular people as well as patriots.

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We need a flag. Something subtle to signal others that won't be ostracized. I say we take the Police flag and run with it, and replace the stars with a coat of arms. Any other ideas?

Another thing that I saw today was that besides Molymem the Hotep nogs actually came up with the most level-headed and factual analysis of the weekends events. Give it a read:
>http://hotepnation.com/charlottesville-making-sense/

We actually share all of the same enemies as these guys so it might be in both of our best interest to form some sort of a symbiotic relationship? We could use them as camouflage from being deemed Nazi, Racist, Hitler KKK... and they could get from us whatever it is they think that they would benefit the most from.

>>137615169
"White supremacist" is such an unfairly slandered term. White civilization is obviously superior by all metrics - especially in morality and culture. Every honest, moral person should recognize that the white race is the only source of global enlightenment and development. The Jews have branded this obvious truth as the most evil hatefact in the world.

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>>137615169
Fucking this, it's about time we started getting serious and stop all the nazi shit irl. I'm a fucking nazi and even I agree that bringing nazi flags and nazi aesthetics is fucking retarded and is going to turn everyone off. Even American vanguards aesthetics are a little to much. The future of or fucking people is at stake we can't mess up rn.

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Is this flag too cringe? I'm not sure of the black sun but this is some inspiration. Let's get more ideas.

>>137627158
Good ideas but I want you to forget that the term National Socialist ever existed. Start calling it State Socialism or Current Year Socialism. Anything other than Nazis. Fucking Bernie Sanders identifies as Democratic Socialist and he could've held his own against Trump. Anti-fa are full blown of Commies and nobody seems particular bothered by that aspect of their group.

If you truly care about 14 you WILL heed this advice!

>>137627837
Stop using the edgy nordfag symbolism. Our movement should reflect our pan-european origin. Better to use Greek or Roman symbols.

>>137627778
WHO CARES. Only you and a fringe on the internet care about this enough to mention it. Advocating for White Nationalism will achieve the same effect with not nearly as much resistance.

Why are you people so fucking intent on sabotaging yourself? You're either retards or shills.

Our ends are what matters. We're to take the most effective means to get there.

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>>137615169
OP is totally right. I had a normie friend the other day tell me about how right wing groups come from a "completely illogical perspective" and how they "need irrational prejudice to survive." I didn't have the heart to tell him that our perspective is completely rational once you know what we know.

It's impossible to upend someone's worldview on the spot, so we have to circumvent it.

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>>137627439

>>137627439
>>137530109

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>What Nazis? I don't see any Nazis.

Wink wink.

>Oh you mean all white people are Nazis? Now that's a little prejudiced on your part don't you think?

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>>137615169
Those /pol/acks are too retarded to understand that Americans bled and died fighting Nazis
Swastika, Roman salute and white supremacy are seen as boogeyman symbols by American nation.
Alt right is trying to rally people by using these symbols and it is like.. Using Satan to rally Christians.
It does not make any sense

Alt right NEEDS to reform right fucking now. This so-called movement will never work. Especially in countries such as
> USA
> UK
> Poland
> Canada
> France
> Belgium
> Netherlands

Why? Because every single country on this list suffered because of national socialism.
These wounds run deep and people are not going to forget about them anytime soon.

>>137615169

If you talk like that in front of me I'll rape you and send your lifeless corpse to the Nazis as a present.

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>>137627837
Okay, well... Are we designing these symbols just for America or what? We're a global movement but whatever...

Even with the black su imagery I think we should pull back completely.. There are plenty of other symbols to grab from.. My wife is an amazing artist and she's reading the trheads every so often as she goes so we might get her to draw up some ideas?

WE use a lot of Rome aesthetics but have any of you ever heard of the Etruscans? They were the people that owned Rome, pre-dated them and they were the one's who came up with all the shit a lot of people attribute to the Romans.. Maybe we could look to them for some aesthetics?

Fuck man, our enemies would be so pissed if we came out next week or whatever completely repackaged with all new aesthetics and no ways for them to atttack us

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>>137627995
I really think we should lose the Socialism name. I mean I understand why Hitler called his ideology national socialism, and it makes sense. But state socialism seems to indicate policies directed to benefit a corrupt standing state, which we are morally opposed to. It sounds communistic. And while it might attract our oppositions interest it would be an oxymoron imo.

>>137628252
It needs dignity yet I would suppose anything with whiteman symbols is inherently racist to brainwashed normies. What would you suggest? What kind of American cultural symbols haven't been exploited by (((them))) yet?

>>137629163
you post like somebody who doesn't come here often.

wonder why that is.

>>137615169
Thinking man's logic. If it can be used against, it's a hindrance. Pure Logic

>>137628418
All the terms are subconsciously Jewed, anon. People have been conditioned since childhood to hate the words, not the meaning. Every pro-white term causes the same instinctive twitch reaction in the normie brain. Controlling the language has been the Jew's game from the start. Our goal should be to break through the conditioning, to normalize these pro-white terms in all their truthfulness. We have to shock the goyim dogs until their old habitual instinct is broken. Better yet, raise the next generation without the Jewish brainwashing that trains people since they're 3 y.o. to have this instinct of hate against their own race.

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>>137615169
There are already successful white people, and they look down on scum like you.

The aggressive white male narrative is historically obsolete for the USA, and must be revised.

socially-conservative, hypermasculinity is an impediment to humankind's improvement.

The USA must become a United Nations of America. All who impede humankind's improvement are domestic terrorists (Alt-right is now Alt-Qaeda and need to be smoked out and hunted down)

posterity is archaic

>>137629440
>anything with whiteman symbols is inherently racist to brainwashed normies
We need to be rehabilitating the symbols, not running away from them. trying to shy away from them is cuckservatism, and we should all know from the past 50 years that it is a losing strategy. Be offensive, not defensive. Make racism no longer seen as negative.

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Nah, no infighting.

>>137629163
New symbols and new flag are necessary for this movement.
Also, Hitler has to be replaced with someone else.
Because at this point, alt right can be attacked from any direction, by anyone -- Including another right wingers.

And using Hitler as your patron is the best way to anger a lot of people on both sides.

>>137620875
You're on to something. Any imagery that can be used against must be quashed.

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>>137628826
This.

People in the West are brainwashed to think that we all entered the war to save the Jews even though we only found out about that stuff after the fact. Same deal with the civil war, msot people think that the North fought to free the slaves when nothing could be further from the truth

>>137628562
This is is going to appeal to normies a lot more than freaking nazi flags or the stars and bars. You can even stick some Fasces into the design, as they are already a part of the US heraldry and we would have plausible deniability if leftists pointed it out.

Cut the white supremacist and even white ethno state stuff, for now. That may be a 25-50 year goal, but it's not part of the 5 year goal. Our immediate goal should be geared to sealing the leaks, building the wall, and getting rid of immigration (ideally all of it, but we should target low skilled third worlders to start)
That's the issues that got Trump elected, and it is still the issue that keeps 50% of the country up at night worrying about.
Stress the negative impact of unchecked immigration, the looming threat of automation that will likely render these low skilled immigrants unemployable in the future.
It doesn't have to be a "white ethnostate" in name, so long as it is in practice.

>>137629774
Nordcuck symbols just look creepy and have association with savage vikings. We should really take our symbols from white civilizations, not some moon and sun runes.

>>137615169
>Start working on some new aesthetics

this will be difficult since most trump supporters look like ugly fucking neckbeard virgins

>>137615169
>State Socialist
Oh boy another inch deep libertarian.

>>137629568
>>137629774
Guys I would really love to agree with 100%. It is our nature to wish to enlighten the people with the truth. It is a tall task, every day people are deeply entrenched in false beliefs. It is nearly impossible to break the 70+ years of social conditioning. But there is one thing we must remember: "One day the lies will collapse under their own weight, and the truth will triumph again." Truth and God are on our side, but in order to be victorious, we must first win the hearts of the people before its too late. Then we will wake them.

>>137619702
Alt-righters come up with some good shit that hits a nerve like "Open Borders For Israel"

It has to be something good that points out hypocrisy and trolls people not just through edginess

>>137629966
>>>137629163
>New symbols and new flag are necessary for this movement.

Something with 16 of a certain symbol (stars, stripes, I'd go with X's) to reflect 16 points. The Amsterdam flag is a god starting point.

>>137629480
Yah well that's not true and plenty of anons know who I am so you can fuck off

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>>137615169
also if faggot natsocs DO show up in full nazi gear regardless, you guys NEED TO KICK THEM THE FUCK OUT, in fron of all the cameras

>>137615799
>White Advocacy
>Nationalism
By arguing for both separately you get a better argument. It also allow for the " I think all Nations and people deserve to look out for themselves explicitly argument". It's just common sense.

>>137629966
>Also, Hitler has to be replaced with someone else.
Charles Martel the hammer. He would make a perfect symbol for the west as he stands for the safeguarding of western values against foreign invasion, primarily being Islamic which is the real (physical at least) threat atm, he doesn't have any "blood on his hands" that leftists can cry about, and he is universally liked in western nations, at least by those who known of him and aren't leftists who crave islamic dick.

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>>137629568
>>137629774
Wrong, and lol you both being under the impression that you have that kind of time.

>>137629966
>Also, Hitler has to be replaced with someone else.

General "Kill The Commies Now!" Patton

>>137616451
"Challenging the opposition"
#AltRightChallenge
Etc

>>137630455
>It is a tall task, every day people are deeply entrenched in false beliefs. It is nearly impossible to break the 70+ years of social conditioning

You do realise that for centuries people of Europe were fucking scared of Jews?

Spain expelled Jews right after reconquista
UK banned Jews for centuries
Entire Jewish villages were massacred for sacrificing children in their rituals in Poland ( " pogrom ")

And get this - national socialism ruined everything.
Jews went from boogeyman to " tragic victims " in just 6 years.
Everything that happened in the past 700 years was suddenly forgotten

And you, useful idiots of pol, still support ideology that ruined everything?

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>>137616736
Freedom of association is all anyone wants. Nothing more American. "Mind your business" used to be on our stuff

>>137615169
>We're not alt right fuck the alt right the alt right is made up

>ok now lemme reconstruct the alt right into a squeaky clean, gay and cucky little piece of nothingness, surely leftists will stop supressing our speech

Why not "European Peoples' Nationalist"? A little long to say, so yeah Ethno-Nationalist is good too. Sorry,this is my first post on /pol or 4chan at all for that matter.

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>>137615169
Call it rationalism.

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>>137630240
this

plus, the American Nativist movement was aesthetic af

>>137631227
This might work as well, just rebrand as being anti communist, it's harder for the media to demonize that. Not that it will stop them from trying, but it wont be as successful for them.

>>137631546
Aren't you busy destroying Europe for the umpteenth time Hanz?

>>137631373
Literacy is what national socialism advocated. The mystic demon jew was called out, christ crucified, and then Hitler was crucified, so to speak. The opponents of this satanic breed have always been demonized. It took the entire world lead by the jews to stop the wrecking machine that Germany had brought forth. We were almost free. That's why we cant use those symbols today, it give the jews "credibility" and opportunity to infiltrate our movement by painting these on ourselves like targets. I used to disagree but this is apparent after the rallies.

>>137632063
>uuuuuhm uuuh yeah you're country is cucked lol so argument discarded!
t. Canada

>>137631673
Europeans are not White, they currently and historically declare themselves separate entities.

Americans are white.

Also "people's" is Socialist collectivist lingo.

ugh fucking nazi larpers, we need GOOD OPTICS. I know, let's dress like shitty James Bond villains and blast Death in June, that will show everyone how we're the New Intellectual Right

I'll take lunkhead natsoc skinheads over you fucking queers any day

>>137631544
>>137632002

Or start up a pure free speech organization:

See >>137530109

>>137615169
"White supremacist" is an invented term. Nobody calls themselves a "white supremacist". Also, the alt-right has more power than ever and is drawing in more support as time goes on. Why would they change their strategy?

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Fuck you you spineless nigger-loving alt-cuck. The fact that you proudly label yourself an alt-rigther like the oblivious idiot you are, a label literally created by the Jewish media last summer, speaks volumes how much (((they))) have subverted the right. Nobody takes your little movement seriously with you stupid reddit frog and all this praise kek and shadilay nonsense and Jewish e-celebs so it's not like you can make matters worse.

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>>137632209
>Europeans are not White, they currently and historically declare themselves separate entities.

Could you, for at least 1 minute, restrain yourself from saying stupid shit? At least in this thread?

Thanks

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>>137627439
The American flag with crosses instead of stars would be pretty badass. And, it would trigger lefties more than a swastika.

Closest I could find, attached.

>>137632691
I'm not alt-right, I am a national socialist. However, the world hates us despite our lack of guilt. I want to create a new party that will unite us all against the eternal shlomo. This is the take you need on this- we need to look good so that we can no longer be demonized.

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>>137632625
>Why would they change their strategy?
They aren't

Now take a guess at who might benefit from dismantling the movement, at the height of its controversity, right as the momentum shifts into their favor

hmmmMmmmmm really takes the noggin for a joggin....

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Woes and Greg Johnson had a good discussion about it, and I think Johnson was correct in his idea
>The tiki torch march was a big positive, because it was organized and unadvertised, and the fellow right-wingers there took and disseminated the photos without the (((press))) backing them up
>Dont publicly advertise singular massive events that invite the whole nation, instead run smaller, organized events on a local level nationwide where we control the information and the press and ANTIFA cant show up in time to twist the narrative
>Large events cant ensure everyone showing up is up to snuff.
>The police and military are not your friends. We may have a love for clean-cut men in uniforms, but they are tools of the establishment and the establishment is completely against us. They will prioritize their financial and occupational security over any personal feelings about the matter
>While the people hailing and waving Nazi flags should be equally commended for their personal risk, its counter-intuitive to use foreign concepts when white nationalist policies have been as ingrained in American history and culture as the Constitution
In short, these big national events are a bad idea. Run smaller, local operations in which you control the optics instead of the media

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>>137632625
>>137632691
Hi shillls. Now fuck off.

What do we do about Spencer? Do we send him his resignation letter? Reasons to keep or to purge him?

My opinion is that he is pretty fucking toxic especially since the "It wasn't a Nazi salute I was just saying HEIL TRUMP, hurr hurr"

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>>137632002
>>137630965
>>137630296
>>137630240
>>137629966
Look at the helmet, I think we found a flag. 3 white stars on a green background.

Also the Trump comparison.

>>137616451

Yes, because people will totally get the references to Pinochet and muslim car attacks. Jesus if I read any more of your moronic posts I will lose all my IQ points.

>>137633420
Everyone who isn't a shill agrees with this

>>137633104
The best way to start is to use Jewish weapons against them.
Gradually rally more and more normies.
Subtlety start defining what's right and what's wrong.

Jews had plenty of time to rewrite the meaning of modern society.
And right now, Jews are playing everyone like a fiddle -- especially those who identify as either national socialists or alt right.

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>>137627439
i got u senpai

I need to go watch a fucking Youtube tutorial on how to use /pol as far as replying and what not. I do agree with OP though; a major rebrand is going to help. I see more and more coming over every day. I try to get people to watch The Greatest Story Never Told, that at least opens the discussion table somewhat if they are willing to watch it.

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>>137627158
Conservatism is losing in slow motion. Nationalism isn't an actionable direction when the nation lacks an identity.

Maybe Neo-Tradition is what we need

Recognizing the wisdom of those before us and science.
Common sense, common history, common cause.

Freedom of association is functionally white nationalist, but it's American to the core. Free speech. Normalizing white advocacy. National Security and pride. A focus on charity, fitness, history, voluntary trade etc.

Pragmatism is an American philosophy

Stoicism was foundational to Rome which we admire

>>137632832
The European Union has spent billions trying to get you faggots to shed your nationality labels and implant the "European identity".

If you want to accept yourself as a collectivist entity go right ahead.

>>137633508
The main problem is that Spencer is more so a motivational speaker rather than a leader.
We need someone who could actually organize people into not spurging out like Charlottesville

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>>137633632
Oy Vey

>>137632691
Isn't it past your bed time?

>>137615169
I agree with this. We could call it "The reasonable right" to separate from fascism.

>>137633834
GSNT opened my eyes

>>137633831
MMmmm, not a fan

>>137633582
This idea seems pretty good if we're going with modern type stuff as opposed to ancient asthetics.

The thing with stars that fucks me up in God saying "Don't lift up graven images, especially those that are such as the stars in the sky etc..." Dunno

>>137633508
Keep Spencer, lose all Canadians. He showed strength and class in his press conference and the way he refused to throw the Dodge kid under the bus earned respect from me.

>>137619837
If theres one idea you should take from the reactionaries its that you need your movement to target elites and potential elites. Alt-right needs to feel like a vanguard, not a bunch of hicks trying to resurrect dead symbols. Once you've cultivated a vanguard spirit the normies will follow

>>137633982
Well and it looks like it did not really work.
Only Sweden, France and Germany fell for this trick.

Belgium, of course, does not count because " Belgian " nation never existed in the first place.

You will be slandered as a nazi no matter what.

They called trump, who is a centrist NYC liberal, surrounded by jews, "literally Hitler".

>>137627057
Pro-Ethnocentrism? White Advocacy? Western Nationalism?

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>>137628418
Even white nationalism is toxic. JT goes with white advocacy for a reason.

Combine a platform of white advocacy, nationalism, and freedom of association

And you get a defensible equivalent

>>137615169
>leaf tries to act as an authority on /pol/

kill yourself faggot, I would nuke Canada before North Korea, syrupniggers need not apply.

>>137633978
this. We are Traditionalists (capital T) as espoused by Evola et al. We understand humans are lost without a higher morality beyond the human. Not the Nietzschean superman that is unobtainable and inorganic, but God. All those who deny this are of the other "cultures" in our current multicultural debacle which we seek to fissure.

All this antifa/alt right stuff is CIA honeypots.. you guys must have sub-prime nigger fluride IQs to think otherwise..

If you don't know what's really going on it's time to put down the Doritos bag and pick up a history book

Fuckin sheeptard idiots

>>137615169

go get fucked with your AR nazi shit.
IT'S OVER

OVER
V
E
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>>137634374
Well use X's like Amsterdam.

It's massively aesthetic.

I'm glad I'm not white. I get to speak the truth about Hitler and the Third Reich without as much backlash as you guys.

I'm always redpilling normies on that stuff and best of all... They can't take it as any fickle "white nationalist delusion" because I'm not white. I just come across as an edumacated brown person who sees the world outside of their "narrow privileged perspective."

>>137634755
Oh okay so we should have people with swastikas and other Nazis symbols hang with us because they're totally not mentally ill or feds or both.

Fuck off

>>137615169
The Alt Right is dead. Those that called themselves Alt Right that were Neo Conservatives or Memers are seen by the public to be Nazis. It cannot be revived, the Left, Media, and Nazis tainted it.

Just go back to being Republican.

>>137634934
do you think that /pol/ has a signup sheet and membership cards or something?

why are you normies that came here yesterday so fucking stupid

>>137634755
Yeah but when you bring a nazi flag its a much easier sell. When the propaganda machine starts calling everyone and their cat a nazi it looks slightly ridiculous, but when it says people at a rally where others had a nazi flag are nazis its reasonably convincing.

The overton window has shifted, but its going to be awhile before nazi flags are fair game. Just dont be stupid

>>137615169
Fuck you cuck. The reason the jewish lies hold power over us is because you cucks are to afraid to stop believing them. The truth is worth the adversity and we will continue to defend the honor of Uncle Adolf.
SIEG HEIL!

Stop using my damn kekistan MEMES! you want to seperate yourself from the modern right leave my memes alone this goes for the alt right and neo nazis alike!

>>137634936
Hey there leftycuck. Still going strong huh?

>>137615169
>replaceing the nationalist part of national socialist not the socialist part
now thats what I call leaf posting

>>137635014
need more like you, keep it up. you could be an e celeb start taking on the topic in public

What an embarrassing, defeatist thread. Your weakness is sickening, OP.

>>137634905
I wish. Problem is most of the traditions got corrupted so long ago, people are hardly familiar with them. I agree that until we revive a sense of the Transcendent in our culture our work isn't complete

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>>137634856
Fucking CIA niggers r so buttblasted at this thread. This is only the first thread you morons, pace yourselves.

>>137635014
Youre doing God's work. Western civilization will always have room for you

>>137629774
Rehabilitation can only occur after victory though, not before.

>>137615169
>thinking tricking people into thinking you aren't so bad by rebranding

This is why you're going to tear your own 'movement' apart. You can't agree on anything, you think you can trick people into joining you, and you assume that only other people that share your ideology are the ones paying attention to what you're planning. Sounds almost exactly like Hillary's horrible tactics.

>>137635076
You guys are doing protest over gargoyles while the government is planting cointelpro agents every where in plain sight.. You're favorite talk show host Big Bubba is a fucking polished CIA agent

Get off RuneScape and put the maga mug down and look from an elitest perspective.. dividing anything into two sides is how you conquer it..

>>137634769
Not quite.

It has to sound more appealing to normies.
We can learn a lot from pre WW2 Germany and post ww2 Italy ( years of lead)

Staged violence against NSDAP and pro normie programs boosted the popularity of Nat soc party.

In Italy, fascists were seen as victims due to violence and terrorist attacks which were committed by communists.

Words such as " Ethno " or " Nationalist " will never work in the West. It is far too late for that.

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bump

Well, fucker, it could be that I'm not familiar with the forum format/controls yet. I'm sure you were born knowing how to use 4chan seamlessly...

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>>137615169

Why were we winning so much support throughout the election season?

It was because we were fun, because we were the flag waving patriots out there enjoying ourselves and criticizing actual political issues like immigration and Islam, and we were having a good time with it while the left was acting like a bunch of emotional SJWs. We were the normal well adjusted people being attacked by the left at Trump rallies, never the attackers. The public support that was rising for nationalism for the last few years in America is now all gone....all because a few hundred faggots could stop themselves LARPing as Nazis and bringing negativity and darkness into the this new nationalist movement.

Imagine if hundreds of ordinary well-dressed people were marching with American flags. What the fuck are the media and the left going to do about it? Call them bigots? Drop the fucking combat gear, it looks like you seek to engage in violence, or at least expect violence. Don't make it about violence. Dress as if you expect the police to protect you, and if they don't, they loose.

Imagine if instead of tattooed KKK members holding confederacy flags, we had intelligent pro-white speakers like Jared Taylor giving speeches instead with an American flag behind him.

This is your narrative: White people are under attack, as opposed to white people are attacking others. You must make it clear both trough words, but also trough the visual element, that it is white people that are under fire here.

>>137635150

Oh I see, anyone who is against Richard CIA Spencer is lefty!?
You can't be THAT naive.

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>>137629163
>>137629966
>>137630703
>>137630965
>not using symbols belonging to your own nation for convincing your fellow countrymen, instead using foreign symbols that only connect with fellow right-wingers

>>137616089
>>137615169
>>137623947

This is a necessary reform and I hope that all of you can see this is the truth. If you do not abide by the new law, you are contributing the demise of this movement.

Take your swastika flags and jam them directly into your own assholes. THNX.

>>137615169
>you will always have absolutely nothing to gain from this.
100% THIS
There will never be anything to gain from marching under a swastika banner. MAYBE they could get themselves a tiny state during an apocalyptic event.

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>>137635523

>HAHAH im irritating my delusion LE EPIC WIN!! xD

>>137615169

You don´t get it do you?

Spencerfags have been shitposting here over the last few months and their activity has sharply increased since last Friday.

They are trying to hard ot take credit for the job others have done (namely Milo Yiannopoulos, Ben Saphiro, Gavin McGinnes, Stefan Molyneux or Trump himself), these people have ginve young conservatives a new set of ideas and arguments, and have given them hope and confidence.

These neonazi are going to make a big effort to try to discredit them an anyone who dares to disagrees with them, by calling you "kike".

They claimed they wanted to Unite the Right and oddly enough they have done quite the opposite, and yet the fucking dare to say Trump is in the White House because of them, they are in denial.

In one of george Lincoln rockwells speech he said that he never wanted to be called "fuhrer" , because he thought it was a german insignia, i feel like if he didn't use the swastika and nazi imagery his movement would've been more successful, a rebranding of the alt right movement needs to happen. No swastikas or heil hitlers.

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>>137615169
>Alt-Right 2.0
That's a stupid name. At least call it Ctrl-Alt-Right

>>137615169
>Thought up rational counter argument
>Saw leaf
>Kekked

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>>137635756
Capped, good sir.

>Unite the Right
>mfw

The (((alt-right))) shit the bed at C-Ville and I can't help but feel as if it was intentional, sort of like the Libertarian Convention when that fatass strolled out in a Speedo.

Honestly, I say keep going with this Nazi imagery and cartoonishly evil bullshit like torches and roman salutes. Trump is never going to side with the leftists so the best you can do is get him to declare the Alt-Right and the newly Christened Alt-Left both terrorist groups. I'm pretty sure this will shit on the Alt-Left more than the Alt-Right because honestly you niggers did enough irreparable damage to yourselves already.

>>137635596
.....Postconservatism? Western Restorationists? Restorationism? European Conservationist?

I always found Reactionary alluring as hell but I'm a bit atypical

>>137615169
I made a post about this yesterday, and it devolved into my being called KIKE SHILL over and over.

Those who are still clinging to MUH 4TH REICH dreams are lost - let them follow Richard Spencer into oblivion, that's their problem.

Sad thing is, I agree with a lot of what they say, but the retardation of thinking that draping yourself in LARP flags and giving Nazi salutes will gain any fans has driven me back out of their circle.

I'm too old to associate with edgelords now even if we have common ground.

>>137635756
Yes, this. Stick to the American flag, the left hates it enough anyways

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>>137615169
We also need to up our physical appearance (by lifting, etc.) and not look like a bunch of washed up virgin dorks
This way people would take us more seriously and it'll be easier to defend ourselves from antifa thugs

>>137615169
>cast out of the Alt-Right Movement.
okay, shill.

>>137616594


NORMIE DOESN'T KNOW THAT DIPSHIT

FALL IN LINE OR GET EXECUTED

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>>137617867
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

No purges......that is our vanguard.......the left NEVER purges the radical fringe and neither should we.......its the gun on the table......it tells liberals you deal with us or you will have to deal with THEM!!!

These embarrassing threads seem to pop up every time there's some public shit like this. I can only assume it's redditors, but seriously all you idiots are doing is dividing the right. We are growing exponentially and just because the narrative has you shitting yourself that we are somehow crippled, doesn't mean that's actually the case. We will keep growing after today, and it will keep happening organically regardless of any of this shit, and all you people do with threads like these is stir shit on /pol/.

>>137633420

Not really. Unless you can literally plan 10 events that happen at the same time its kinda pointless really. But can you be sure that those 10 won't be disrupted easily? Leaks are everywhere. Smaller the event, easier to disrupt.

Small scale events don't attract shit and will be drowned out. UTR movement was large enough to cause waves.

>>137633676
>Every jew agrees with this

>>137633831
Cheeky
I like you. If we ever happen to meet and recognize, I'd buy you a beer.
Or a shot of whiskey.

>>137634025
What splurging out? Nazi flags? If that is biggest offense then we got bigger problems. Free speech is for all, not selective few.

Want to break the norms. Stop following them

Want splurging out? Visit local antifa hotspots. The monument mayhem they did was them going apeshit.

>but the shouting and nazi salutes

I wish I actually gave a fuck. As far as i can see, UTR ended peacefully. Prematurely, but nothing burned down after them.

1st amendment goes for everyone. Not selective few.

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>>137624279

I once made a similar thread, those are the results. We don't want you here, plebbit.

>>137636822
FUCKING THIS

>>137636172
European Fundamentalism?
European conservatism?

Nevertheless, white nationalism, white supremacy, national socialism, fascism etc. - Those terms have to go.

Being edgy will get alt righters nowhere ( I myself am conservative, so I don't identify with alt right movement)

>>137616451
No fakes.
No lies.
C'mon America, open your eyes!

Get smart.
Get wise.
Stop believing MSM lies.

Defend our country.
Defend our land.
Today we make our stand.

>>137628421
>know what we know
What do you know?

>>137636822
Or maybe you're just a shill trying to instill false hope

>>137636285
I owe it to Antifa for getting my ass to the gym. Thanks commies.

>>137615169
I do not accept socialism. You fags sound like Bernie bros... Democratic Socialism is not socialism.. blah blah blah... NEGATIVE! NO ALT RIGHT FOR ME!

>>137615169
OP is totally right

ANd I say this as a full on National Socialist

Que the shill accusations.... but grow up soon ok?

>>137636822
We need to be realistic if we want to suceed

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>>137627785
Agreed, save it for the bedroom and with friends.

If you have to take anything from the nazi, take the sense of class and style. Become cultured, read books, reject the crap now, but please come up with some new symbols and flags.

>>137615169
I fully support this. Nazi stuff is fun for shitposting with but it's not worth clinging on to when you're trying to get the general public on board. Anything Nazi relate is really bad optics.

>>137615169
To me, every nazi larp here is a shill trying to promote unsuccessful and impracticable strategies. Raising arms and waving nazi and kkk flags is a sure way to lose support.

White nationalism is the way.

>>137625788
>>137626471
What you retarded faggots don't realize is that /pol/ is where all of the energy of the current right comes from. Your real life shit, like these protests, are nothing compared to what a place like /pol/ has accomplished. You people talk a lot about larping, well, here, your "hostile take over" is just in your mind.

Bumping for intelligent post

How about WAPP White American Preservationalist Party

>>137636731
I agree that a vanguard is still needed. It moves the Overton window, and as you said, provides that intimidation/muscle. But, it should not be Nazi larping, either. But, this discussion is for mainstream.

>>137636731
So... We should be like the left? This is quite possibly the dumbest fucking argument ever. This purge isn't negotiable. Let the LARPers and Neo_Nazis attempt to battle whoever on their own terms. They're only dragging us down.

>One of the main concerns I saw was about getting rid of socialism

So... The majority of the public are too fucking stupid for more of a stateless society. THey can't comprehend how roads would be built without a government. So I understand why a lot of anons advocate for national socialism.. Have seen a lot of good critiques on the name State Socialism bu that's why I mader these threads. This is a repackaging. We are no longer associating with Nazi LARPers and Neo-Nazis PERIOD. If you wanna be a one of those two things than you can fuck off and stop trying to latch onto us

>>137635136
>Fuck you cuck. The reason the jewish lies hold power over us is because you cucks are to afraid to stop believing them. The truth is worth the adversity and we will continue to defend the honor of Uncle Adolf.
>SIEG HEIL!
You realize that most the shit you fags believe in are lies themselves. You created an entire belief on cherry picked data and hoaxes. Fuck off Nazi!

>>137615799
nothing wrong with the nazis but its a sin we must take upon ourselves we can't redpill them all. we will always look like the bad guys just remember brother one day if we achieve our goal we can finally get some justice for him

>>137637812
Son, you're the one latching on to us. This "we" you speak of is really just you, a fucking Canadian of all things. Eat shit.

>>137636993
>I once made a similar thread, those are the results. We don't want you here, plebbit.
What did you do take that in a NATSOC general... Yeah cherry pick your propaganda. Idiot!

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I think we should take more inspiration from eastern euro natsocs. I'm thinking of the poles, nordfront and ukrainians

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>>137615799
It's actually possible to have a white nationalist political party that isn't "racist". All inclusive Ethno-nationalism is not contradictory.

It just has to be a Black Nationalist, Asian Nationalist, etc party as well.

This is actually what most of /pol/ seems to get behind anyway if the enthusiasm for Japan remaining Japanese and Somalia being the world's greatest anarcho-capitalist state is any indicator.

La Raza is a thing. Hoteps are a thing. The alt right is a thing. There's nothing more American than coming to gether to agree you want nothing to do with one another.

For the love of ThatGuyT, Thomas Sowell, and all that is not Nazi LARPing, why isn't this our platform?

Everyone knows Balkanization is inevitable. Let's do it like gentlemen. These are going to be our neighbors.

It's literally anti-supremacist. Freedom of association is a human right. Minority advocacy will happen regardless, imagine normalizing white advocacy as well.

>>137637008

Fuck your European *insert word* crap.

Won't help shit and reminds people of European union.

>>137637573

>Anything Nazi relate is really bad optics.

Bad optics?? Anything that isn't antifa and their brain dead cult is a nazi, member of KKK, racist or any other 11 labels as far as MSM is concerned.

Try to realize that first.

>>137637683
No one is trying to have it toned down on the internet, just in real life. The popularity of /pol/ and Daily Stormer attests to how effective over the top antics are on the internet.

>>137615169
Never thought I'd see the day where I was convinced to hide my power level by a leaf.

>>137637847
>>137637847
See, look at this, these shits want us to drop the basic truths of the JQ because muh optics. What's next, fuck white people?

>>137635036
Half of those are FBI agents.

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>>137627439

>>137628826
>>137630184
this

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Separate but equal Nationalism

>>137638294
Yeah, having European or State or Socialism in the name is a no go in America.

>>137615169
Genius, brother

We need a group of enforcers at these rallies that will BTFO anybody that has nazi symbolism. It needs to be organized

>>137615169
Yep

Hitler himself would tell you to drop the nazi shit. It's counter productive

We got secure the 14 before we can honor the 88 , it's as simple as that

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I've been thinking for a while now, and I think the least I can do to help is make posters and put them up around my college campuses. Give me some reviews/tips?

>>137638294
You can't possibly fucking believe this. Antifa and psychotic leftists/media might say everything is a Nazi but Joe Public can see the difference between someone LARPing as a Nazi or whatever and somebody who is not. Please fuck off

>>137615169
>Start working on some new aesthetics
The next rally needs to be full of American flags.

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>>137638367
kek

>>137636868
Mate, this isnt a hard concept. Identarian groups in Europe do it all the time
You dont require 10 plans for a pro-white flash mob at some pro-immigration play showing, nor do you need 10 plans to film it and disseminate it. Getting your message out is way easier if the enemy doesnt know youre coming. If you think that somehow huge scale events arent just going to invite the press and ANTIFA, who will outnumber you, to shit up the message and do more harm than good, then I dont know what to tell you.

>What spurging out
No, Im referring to the massive fighting that happened the entire fucking day and the mindless wandering and dispersement that happened because no one was around to get everyone organized

>Nazi flags?
Mate, you can try all you want to convince people an event is about 'Insert message here' but all someone has to do is show up the Nazi flag some retards brought to a rally and the conversation is over.

>UTR ended peacefully.
You clearly missed the massive fighting between us and ANTIFA and the fact that a right-winger killed a person, which is what anyone in any sort of sense ended up talking about. No one is going to give a shit if the event officially ended peacefully if people died as a result afterthefact

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White American Preservationalist Party

>>137616451

/OUR CAR/
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET
/OUR CAR/
OUR CAR IT HAS A CROWD

To the tune of
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o9OPFvhFq0c

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>>137638294
>Optics and labels are the same!

Optics are far more powerful than labels. We want people to have dissonance seeing Nazi applied to normal people. It makes the opposition look unhinged. Calling someone in SS get up a Nazi makes them look sane. The fact they will always use an obsurd label should be exploited, not enabled.

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>>137615169
FUCK OFF YOU SHILLING PROVOCATEUR TL;DR BLOG POSTING FUCK.

WHAT IS THIS FAGGOTRY OP HAS POSTED?
>you follow these instructions
>we can
>I
>I'm
>Alt-right needs to
>you need to
>You're never again to
>you will always
>I
>Your wasting
>you're better off
>You can
>you are NOT allowed
>You are State Socialists now
>you are Alt-Right
>Anyone that has a problem with or violates these new rule will from hereon be deemed a shill or mentally unfit and will be cast out of the Alt-Right Movement.
>Start working on some new aesthetics
translation
>OP REPRESENTS VARIOUS ALPHABET AGENCIES, CORPORATIONS AND OTHER SOCIETY CONTROLLING ENTITIES
>WE ARE THE MASTERS OF YOU
>YOU WILL DO WHAT YOU ARE TOLD
>YOU WORK FOR US NOW
nope

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>>137638261
Now that's a good example.
This is a symbol of Polish fascism / Nationalism a yet it does not make people hate you.
From what I know, they are actually gaining supporters due to terrorist attacks in the West and Germany trying to make Poland commit suicide.

And on the other hand you have got alt right and swastika.
Polish nationalists would beat alt righters up for trying to spread Nat soc.

>>137634038

>'when you fight Jews, they win'
>I'm the shill

It's suspicious how the alt-kike calls everyone shills and does threads like this, it's almost as if they're shills trying to allay suspicions and to turn the alt-right into good goys.

>>137615169
yes couldnt agree more with this. I think someone also should start an alt-right general.
Talk rules of engagement go over previous movements failures and successes. That kind of thing.

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>>137638677
THIS

>>137638807

Public Joe is concerned if something else comes besides vapid "OMG NAZI" from TV

Want to disarm your foe? Use his poison against him dipshit.

Fuck off yourself.

>>137638917

Won't be. A Nazi flag will always mysteriously appear by MSM. Stop dreaming.

We're overwhelmingly not alt-right here. But thanks for the advice, kike.

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>>137615169
I mostly agree, but don't even bring race into this. Talk about saving Western/American/Canadian/whatever culture. The end goals and results are the same, but your response from the general population will be radically different.

>>137615169
this is about american nationalism

our symbols are the framers and other american heros from the times when america was a nation of european people.

>>137615169

My impression as a relative outsider is that the Charlotteville rally was a) Full of social outcast losers b) Super cringy. Would have been more impressive if only 10 guys showed up, but they were composed, smartly dressed, held a calm collected speech about the occasion, chanted something simple and uncontroversial in a low masculine voice, and went home.

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5/?

>>137635553
Yeah bro we should really stop organizing because then we can't post memes on facebook anymore because for some reason those things are mutually exclusive, which is why we have to go out of our way to dismantle things that don't affect us instead of letting people do their fucking thing

>>137635756
Great post.

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>>137615169
Organize politically. Form an actual party or a faction within an existing party.

Drop the label "alt right" like yesterday. Stop using old nazi and fascist imagery and slogans. The national flag should always take precedence over a party flag

Stop acting like total fucking autists. No more larping, no more sticks and fighting antifa in the streets. It's childish, bad PR, and if anyone gets hurt the right WILL be held responsible no matter what. Grow some fucking professionalism. Stop walking around in gay biker outfits and meme signs. Or worse, tiki torches and fucking khakis. Memes stay online.

Excommunicate all negative actors who make the right look fucking pathetic and cringe worthy.

THIS. The movement needs to be presentable for white moderates and that will never happen as long as we tout nazi imagery.

>>137638677
*Antifas internally*

>>137638677
This is actually a good idea.
This would improve your public image and corner Jews.

I mean, how are Jews supposed to denounce you? By saying that you are bad because you btfo neo Nazis? Check mate.

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6/ Ithink that's it

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>>137639999
Digits say it must be done

>>137615169
Fuck yourself. 1488.

>>137635014
Whats your take on the "BASED BLACK GUY" meme? Do you feel discouraged or do you know where they're coming from?

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>>137637812
yep.
Also if you havent noticed almost every major e-celeb is now talking about mainstream anti-white attacks.
This is probably one of the best things to ever happen for us!
No more Nazi salutes and flags though. This is an image that will simlpy never work.
Start an alt-right general in which we can go over rules of engagement, past successes and failure of previous white nationalist movements and analysis of current events both on the left and right.
ALT-RIGHT GENERAL!

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I'M NOT LETTING THE NEO-NAZI FBI LARPers DRAG ALL YOU GOOD PEOPLE DOWN WITH THEM!!

SHOW ME YOUR FUCKING WARFACE /pol/ !!!

>>137619702
ANTIFA
COMMIE ATTACKS
YOU ALL HAVE
TO GO BACK! :^D

>>137619702
"our patience wears thin - we ain't ashamed of our skin..."

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>>137638768
YEP YEP

>>137639968
This.
Fucking. This.

People here are not willing to understand that in the end, it is PR that Matters.
And clinging to 20th century ideology is destroying every hope for positive PR.

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>>137640194
Definition of a useful idiot for the left

>>137639527
You're not even Western, what could you possibly understand about what's best for us? The incorporation of nazism is why so many white nationalist organizations have failed. Our rejection of it/rebranding is why we will win.

>leaf
>like yesterday

Nope.

>>137615169
The white supremacy should be subtle, just like the American founding fathers were. Present yourself as rational, be indirectly racist.

You guys know its over right?

I just screenshotted this and sent it to about 30 twitter accounts, blogs and new sources who are tracking you and watching this board. I have friend who works as page in DC and then keep /pol/ open their browsers and check on you dumbshits

Also, all the money is leaving. The biggest companies on the econ-advisory board are out and they're naming names and calling you fucks for what your are. And now you're going to experience real capitalism - if something does not make money its dead.

GG fuckheads, it was a funny joke.

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>>137629480

>you post like somebody who doesn't come here often

That's because he's from reddit, isn't it obvious? You can tell by the long, drawn-out posts, their bitchy tone, and the impression that the posters thinks he is smarter than everyone else. It's characteristic of reddit posts and he mentions being married so I assume he's in his his 30s, the main reddit demographic.

but we still get to be racist right?

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>>137615169
Heres a chant. Transexualism is chemical castration. Remember turing!

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>>137639968
SECOND THIS!

>>137639628
this one is for retarded luddites

jews aren't represented by modern architecture

>>137640194
>>137639354

Fuck off you dumb cunts.
14 in public, 88 in private or fuck off.

I swear to god we will fucking end you fucking nazi larpers if you get in our way. There should be only the 14 fucking words and that is it. If you get in the way of the 14 words we will go for you first.

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I think you lost this OP

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>>137615169
Simple rules: No nazi flags or symbols. KKK is also forbidden.

No supremacy but equality in diversity. White nations deserve the right to exist.

>>137641287
> say something reasonable
> hahaha shill
Pol 2017 in a nutshell

>>137640963
Someone make this into a pasta, stat
Prime fucking material

>>137640967
You're basically bragging about being an ignorant child. You dumb fucking nigger.

>>137615169
communists use code words like the Fist
just have identity europa symbols at the rallies and presentive clothing

>>137640963
good pasta, but are are not going anywhere.

>>137615169
I wont disavow Hitler, because he was right about a lot of things, but I agree that the Nazi larping gets in the way of the message.
The unironic swastika waving is a bit much.
Roman saluting is cool though, but again, it's used in a larpy way at the minute.

One of the things I noticed from watching the events recently is that there are too many people who do not know where the internet stops and real life begins.
Being a meme spouting faggot irl isn't cool.

Order. Discipline. Aesthetics. These are things that will attract people to the movement.

Look at Mosley's BUF.
He had his own symbol, people were dressed aesthetically at rallies, and he had stewards to police the behaviour of his people.

Recent events had lots of people wearing meme shirts incoherently yelling about Jews and niggers.

>>137640963
My dad is Microsoft.

NEW BREAD:

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>>137641437
And you either blind or a dumbass for not seeing the obvious. Well done pumpkin

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Aesthetics and aim is important:

The Right PROTECTS

The Left DESTROYS

That needs to be the mantra. I liked the shields etc, you need more of that.

The right needs to adopt the simple (and true) aim of PROTECTING Western Civilisation, you need the aura of stoic knights. Unmasked, strong, protectors of the civilisation who are also proud to be part of it.

This will be in the face of Antifa's Masked, radical (they're practically ISIS pulling those statues down) screaming, violent, destruction. You NEED the view that you have shields, they have weapons.

This is exactly how you gain support of the centrists. Alt-left wants to destroy, cause change, you want to protect, keep things safe. The average normie doesn't like change, doesn't like radicalism, this is what the left are pushing and you need to show it.

The slow drip of change is no more, now they're pushing it loud and hard, which is exactly what you need. Now put up those shield walls and get the people supporting you, they WILL choose the group that opts for safety and security, over that which pushes radical change.


Trump has called them out for being the violent faggots they are. Most normies probably think of lefties as the loving hippies, now they'll be thinking "man they are pretty violent and dangerous aren't they.. Look at them attacking those young lads who just want to protect.."

SIEZE this, USE the branding, whenever you're about to say "Antifa" or "Commies", use "Alt Left", this will hit harder to home for normies.

God speed America. I can only hope we follow you someday.

>>137639060

>Identarian groups in Europe
Are getting killed off.

>If you think that somehow huge scale events arent just going to invite the press and ANTIFA, who will outnumber you, to shit up the message and do more harm than good, then I dont know what to tell you.

I do know what to tell you. That shit will always happen.

Safety in numbers. Antifa will always arrive along with MSM. Bigger the oppsitsion lesser the threat.

>massive fighting that happened the entire fucking day

Get day correct.

>You clearly missed the massive fighting between us and ANTIFA

Didn't. That happened next day. UTR ended friday by order of police. Antifa chimpout started on Saturday

>the fact that a right-winger killed a person

What was he supposed to do? Get mobbed and beaten to death?


>>137639298
>Optics are far more powerful than labels

Same shit by the end of the day. Renaming label to optics won't solve the problem. MSM will still talk about ebil nazees

God I love watching nazis and right wingers fighting each other. You people are fucking retarded.

>>137615169
Alt right is a philosophical movement of traditionalism, spirituality and nationalism since days of old. Fascism and nazism definitely fits the criteria. The goal is to get the population to realize and support our actual goals not to sell some bastardized version to the leftist mainstream. And some leaf has no authority on it.

>>137615169
Why not keep the nazi stuff but make it Nationalism instead of about skin colour.

To be about skin colour is to be against what Hitler stood for. Criminals and traitors are all skin colours, we must unite and exterminate communists and criminals from being protected in our society.

#notallblacksareniggers

>>137640516

>Our rejection of it/rebranding is why we will win

And still be called Nazis by end of the day.

>>137640963

O HAY; IM FAMOUS.

I wish i gave a fuck.

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>>137615169
>>137616089
shills get out.

ge. TRUMP is one side already with us being edgy cunts, why would we back down now we are winning? shows a 'weak hand'....

plus:
1. hitler + edgy neo nazi shit is required to keep out those that need to be kept out.

2. what about "the truth will out!"..? im not nat soc because i want to be accepted, i'm nazi because its right regardless!

3. why are you falling for the (((medias))) labels they have for you?

hold the line!
gott mit uns

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This graphic is time tested and proven. Our nation's bird is looking at the olive branch for peace just as we do. If the country or its people are threatened, it will turn its head to the arrows for war. The idea of the US from its onset is out of many one. This is how the right should be. We are Americans protesting to preserve our liberty, sovereignty, and freedom before anything else.

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>>137615169
fuck off jew rat

>>137627158
>American National Party
Lose the "ist" and you're golden.
Emphasize american values of property rights, freedom and self-determination and american history (remember you suckers actually had to fight a war to get rid of slavery) in order to get rid of affirmative action and the socialist programs the left relies on.

Fuck you leaf you have no power over us

Stupid people-there is no such thing as Alt Right. it was a demeaning term coined by Hillary Clinton. Conservatives, true patriots are sensible middle of the road pragmatic people who try to maintain good morals, follow the laws and treat people with respect. President Trump is not left or right-ideology stifles innovation and new thought. PLEASE stop with the zombie group think tribalism.

Bring back white nationalism during Trump's second term. A sleeper cell.

>>137615169
Most of us are white separatists that want to be left alone. I don't give a fuck about what niggers in Africa do so long as they stay there.

>>137637178
Dese p good mayne

>>137643055
This x 1000000

>>137642928
Its great on the internet.

>>137624279
I'm a transhumanist tho

>>137631227
I'm ok with this and on top of that the goal could be to get general Mattis elected president as well.

>>137641253
SHUT THE FUCK
FIGHT ME IRL NIGGER
I 'LL CURB STOMP THE DIVIDE AND CONQUER AUTHORITARIAN SHILL RIGHT OUT OF YOU
SAY SOMETHING ELSE FAGGOT
GIVE ME A REASON FUCKER

Are you a globalist or a nationalist?
If you are a nationalist, are you a white person?
If you are both, then you are a white nationalist.

>>137616451
>You can't run, you can't hide, you get helicopter rides
Shit doesn't even rhyme...

>>137615169
>You're never again to paint Hitler or the Nazis in a positive light
Oh really? Then why does this man still have loyal supporters? jews are fucking lying scum! And when a person realizes that they sooner or later turn to Hitler. So fuck off with your bullshit! No not everyone on the alt right is a neo nazi. I could care less about Hitler. I think he was a man who has been judged incorrectly by the lying jew media. Never the less, he is dead and gone and who cares. Point is, we have all been lied to. So Hitler or not, jews are still scummy people.

And as far as the bullshit lying jew media narrative of white supremacists. Let me tell you, the practically don't exist on /pol/ . We don;t hate balcks here but we wish they would wake the fuck up and see who the real enemy is. The jews! They are all our enemy! So I ask you, does that make me a nazi white supremacist, or just a person who sees and says the truth?

All the larping needs to go. Drop the Nazi shit. Drop the retarded torches. Drop the fash haircuts.

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No

Look at irl nationalist movements - none of them has "nationalist" in their name anymore. Use something among the lines of "freedom", "traditionalist", "American", etc.

Flag should be something simple, max 3 colors, best stars and stripes arranged in a new way.

Dress as white collar workers to your rallies, that'd be paying homage to people who got Trump elected in the first place with the added benefit of having an image that's easy to identify with.

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>>137615169
>2.0

>>137640256

This.

Charlottesville would have been a total victory for us in the public eye if it weren't for the retards who went against everyone's advice(even Anglin's ffs) and brought their nazi flags.

Tell neo-nazi groups they are welcome at our rally but they have to make their own symbols and stop LARPing as America's traditional enemies.

>>137637192
>What do you know?
What they don't know

Whilst we are at it, why dont we just get some government funding and join Antifa.

it will be much easier,
And easier is always better right?

>>137645053
We could get moldylocks haircuts and nose piercings whilst we are at it.

maybe walk around with some big communist flags.

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>>137615169
Now this is what is needed. Good luck getting the larpers to take you seriously though.
There's a real chance here to make this happen.

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>>137640963
And they say /pol/ has no influence KEK! They are watching us so they can know how to appeal to voters next election cycle you DUMBASS! This is an anonymous board, which mean we can say whatever uncensored. When you cut people loose like that, they tend to say how they really feel and not the PC version of it. WOW I know you're trying to scare us but thanks for posting this, it was like a pep talk. Thanks FAGGOT!

Screen shotted, will be passing this around, thanks again!

So pretty much Civic Nationalism

>>137646848
It's almost your bedtime, Cody. Go wash up and brush your teeth.

>>137615169
yes daddy, I'll definitely do what you say. Or I'll start a pogrom because cunts like you make us do the exact opposite of what you've just said.

>>137648233
Enjoy losing all moderate support then, along with gaining the hatred of potential allies.
Larpers like you can't win, just like Germany couldn't win in 1943. All because you are impatient and make enemies out of literally everyone.

>>137648639
in essence, I'll only change my opinion if you're not a cunt about it, and OP was a cunt about it.

How about you hurry up and figure out that people don't give a fuck about what you have to say if you're going to shit on them.

>>137615169
Supported. Happy to see the real and serious minds of Pol show themselves again.

Things are really heating up fast, so everyone needs to be on point. If you are at a rally / public, dress professional, act professional, speak with kindness and pride. Start improving yourself and getting fit if you haven't already, the time is now boys. Drop the symbols, drop the flags, drop the fucking islander shit torches and show yourself to be a mature man standing up for his identity and culture. Preach brotherhood, and that you wish the alt left could get along with the alt right. How you are sick of the fighting and violence, and that you just want to live with your people away from all this diversion and hatred. Speak of your love and support for all ethnic groups and their right to their own homeland and culture, and that we deserve the same in Europe.

Express your heart and intellect in a calm and kind manner, and we will gain more support than you could imagine. Be inspiring.

>>137641253
>we will fucking end you fucking nazi larpers if you get in our way.
Look a fucking kike trying to co-opt the movement. Fuck off jew! We don't need or want your brand of "leadership" it's what got us into this mess to begin with.

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>>137615169
Question: can you also dismiss cucks like Spencer? You know, with the Nazi salutes and the eponymous "HAIELL TRUMP!!!1 HAYLLELL OUR PEEHPUL" faggotry.

>>137638677
>group of enforcers at these rallies that will BTFO anybody that has nazi symbolism.
The movement eating itself already. Fucking faggot can't see that people are drawn to us and are rejecting the MSM bullshit narrative. It's self evident and people are starting to see.

>>137616594
Hitler destroyed it. This is the best way to proceed and protect the movement. There's no point trying to defend him.