Really regret giving atlantic 1049 of my shekels now.

>>136319543
Damn....well I'm in commiefornia where I can't buy "assault rifles" anymore so I'm still glad I picked it up at the height of Hillary mania.

Bravo Company USA ftw

.308 kicks too much, 5.56 is much more pleasant to shoot

I got the Century Arms version from Academy for $699. A little rough around the edges but fun.

>>136319543
Should've saved up for an FN Fal

>>136319543
80% lowers, a cheap drill press from Harbor Freight, an AR mill kit FTW
fuck boutique ARs

>>136319543
Why would I want an FAL clone?

Also >>>/k/

>>136320008
Should've gotten the GI from Atlantic. I think they have metal lowers now.

>>136320002
.308 will get you through most basic level 1 armor though.

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>>136319543
It's ok. If it makes you feel better mine blew up in my hands. The mag blew straight out the bottom and nearly missed my feet and obliterated so bad I couldn't even what was left of the mag (outdoor range). Magwell looked like a loony tunes cartoon because the rectangle had turned into a large oval. Bolt face was obliterated but the barrel was good if that means something. Lost no toes and fingers. I just put it down and said to my friend "I'm not even mad" and then smoked a cigarette while my hands were shaking like a bitch.

/k/ American here. You did good, you'll be very pleased with it. PTR is a good brand, much better than century cetme rifles.

Ignore these /pol/oks talking about "too much kick" or "get a FN FAL"

Reasonable people who know what they're talking about understand a reasonable purchase when they see one, rather than regurgitating what they heard from someone else.

>>136319543
Off topic, but is Nosler 26 a meme?

>>136319543
Been thinking of getting a PTR 91. Only real criticism I hear of it is that it's heavy to carry for long periods. How do you like it?

>>136320002

good luck hittings something at 800 yards with you plink .556 ammo

>>136321003
>fuddlore things that didn't happen.

Pics or you're simply repeating the story from TFB about polycase ammo blowing up a ptr.

>>136321302
I can't hit shit at 800 yards anyway jokes on you bithc

>>136321302
Nato spec 5.56 is accurate to 800m with a proper rifle. Stop talking out your ass.

>>136320905
Yeah, but I'm not sure level 1 armor is a real thing, at least not with NIJ ratings. II A is normally the lowest, and that's for handgun rounds. 5.56 out of a 20 inch barrel or just something high velocity like M855A1 can punch through some 3+ armor.
https://justnet.org/pdf/Understanding-Armor-Protection.pdf

>>136319543
I wouldnt buy that for the current price. Or at all. Shoulda built an AR10 from parts

>>136319543
Just bought one, thanks anon.

>>136320002
Uber faggot

>>136321845
I'm not convinced I'll ever need anything better than my 30.06 rifle and 6.5 Grendel AR.

if only we had a board for discussing weapons.

>>136321560
At 50-100 yards 308 is def gonna kill someone wearing body armor. Watch it on youtube

>>136322050
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYkyjntXeOs
wut

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Buy surplus

>>136322050
Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you. It'll definitely punch through everything up to III+, it's just that 5.56 will penetrate a lot better.

>>136322297
Is that an M48? I've been looking at M24/47's, Mausers have always seemed neat.

>>136321915
30.06 is slightly longer range than .308 but theres no ar style 30.06. .308 is a great round though

>>136321302
>800 yards
I've never needed to shoot past 300.

Not everyone pretends to be a sniper online.

>>136322343
No it wont... Theres not enough kinetic energy in a fuckin 55 grain 5.56 round. I have 9mm pistol ammo that is twice the weight of a fucking 556 rifle round. Thats pathetic

>>136321302
Good luck hitting anything at 800 yards outside of your local range you memeing shitposter

>>136322238
Dude this is not the only or most common armor. Try other videos dipshit

>>136320649
G3 clone.

>>136322050
Soft armor? Obviously. Any intermediate or full power rifle cartridge will penetrate level 3a. Level 3 or 4 standalone plates, not so much.

>>136320905
What (or who) the fuck are you going to be shooting that's wearing BA?

>>136320599
>80% lowers, a cheap drill press from Harbor Freight, an AR mill kit FTW
>fuck boutique ARs

You can get actual "mini-mills" for $600 now from ching chong china.

Getting one as soon as I have a job again.

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Toys are for girls, grow a pair and get serious.

>>136321302
>being this bad at marksmanship
You should take your .308 and see if you can hit your brain stem at 3mm.

Ameribros, help me out. I'm thinking of getting a gun: double-barreled shotgun or Lee Enfield?

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>>136322297
I got a moisin too, just refinished it.
Its wartime made (1943) from the izhevsk plant. All the serial numbers match up too.

>>136319763
I made a vow to never move there.
I'll become a garbage man before I head out to Commiefornia

>>136319543
If the quality of the rifle was decent, id buy this. Just to even put a few rounds downrange before reselling it. These rifles are fun to shoot and cheap if you get Russian ammo crates.

>>136322832
No. 5.56 penetrates armor better than 7.62. 7.62 will penetrate cover better, sure, but not armor.
>7.62x51
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAHUnw3u6WE
>5.56
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jET4I6oySsw

>>136320002
You have bad form. Been shooting .308 and .30-06 since I was 11, and never had trouble, because my dad took the time to teach me properly

>>136323222
leaf why did you refinish milsurp
you aren't supposed to violate history reeeeeeeeee

>>136323217
both

>>136323596
For a first, which one?

>>136323217
Enfields are one of the smoothest bolt actions, hence the whole mad minute thing, so I'd say they're always a good choice.I prefer rifles to shotguns, but that's just my opinion. I've never found a use for shotguns besides shooting exotic ammo. I don't know how expensive ammo or rifles are for you poor sods.

>>136323557
There are millions of em. They are not artifacts

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>>136323441
>ar500
Trash.

>>136323901
Yeah, I know. Ceramic or get killed by spalling. Or heat exhaustion lol

>>136323789
Cheapest Lee Enfield I can see on one website is £400.

>>136324095
That's not too bad. When I've briefly looked, examples hover around 500-600 around where I am. How's .303?

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>>136323804
this
>>136323557
It looked like shit. Plus it was 200 leaf bucks. I am using it to learn how to glass bed and othr general tinkering.

>>136324358
$500 would be cheaper than £400, so that's a better deal. On the first website I found, 100 .303 rounds cost just below £60. I don't know how prices are in America, but I can assume it's much cheaper in your country.

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>>136322238
Wait a minute. If you're wearing this armor out at lets say 100 yards, and i hit you with a 308, is there zero energy transfering off of the back side of that plate and onto your center mass?
Or are you going to fall and panic because you feel "something is wrong" from the energy dumping onto your fucking organs?
And if you fall or turn to retreat, do I not simply keep hitting you until i get an unprotected part of your body?

>>136324568
I don't know exact prices, as one of my range friends has an No4 Mk1. Very nice rifle, enjoyable to shoot. I think that's around our prices, just looking around. http://www.luckygunner.com/rifle/303-british-ammo

>>136324568
Anyways, best of luck Anglo anon. Hope all of your /k/ related adventures go well.

>>136325780
Thank you very much, burgerbro.
Have to work pretty hard with the (((laws))) we have in place, but it can be done. Count your blessings and thank God that you were born an American.

>>136324590
>is there zero energy transfering off of the back side of that plate and onto your center mass?
If a plate is rated for a particular threat, then you're not going to fall down when hit unless you are actually retarded.
https://youtu.be/o5f1Fo4r4_I?t=2m24s

>>136322469
Actually an m24/47 my son. 180 cash.

>>136323222
Mines dated at 1927. All matching numbers too, Tula arsenal. Paid 360 for it.

Wish I had more pictures friendos.

>>136321302

.308 has horrible ballistics.


If you want an 800m rifle you need to run .300 win mag at the very least.

>>136321513
>>136322736
>>136322853
>>136326636
<3 /k/

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>>136320002
.308 out of my Scar 17 kicks only a little more than 5.56.

>>136326577
That's a fantastic price. Damn, I wish I hadn't missed out on the days of cheap military surplus and AK's. But on the other hand, AR's are ridiculously cheap now.

>>136326780
I've been wanting to try shooting a SCAR, I've heard they don't kick much. Haven't seen one I could rent at a range though.

.308 is also pretty pricey. If you hand load or go hunting I could see it being useful, but if you just want to plink for a few hours at the range it's gotta be kinda tough on your wallet.

Type it, manifest #2, send it to the same place. Four tires again.

>>136327028
Dude I know. There was a 4th of July sale my friend pointed me to, basically buildings at for 350. But I'll let you know, I got that m24/47 about 1-2 years ago. Just some random dude with a table full of them. Also equally as funny, the import marks on the barrel list it as an m48

>>136326636
>.308 has horrible ballistics.
That's a bit of an overstatement. 308 works fine in 1000 yard F-Class shooting. Not the best option for that kind of range, but hardly horrible.

>>136327298
fuck off

>>136319543
why? PTRs are great

>>136326780
kek. gb 2 vidya gaymes

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>>136321302
>being this much of a shit shot

>>136319543

c308 master race

shits basically a g3 so cash

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>>136321412
I'm directly blaming the gun. The end result was user error. I think what happened is it didn't feed a round so good and I pulled it back and it somehow didn't kick the extractor and I let it ride forward and it chambered. The round most likely was pushed farther in the bullet as it was bench reload and the pressure had exponentially increased causing a blowout. Force of least resistance pushed the bold back and destroyed it and pushed the mag and magwell out with incredible force. I'm just glad the mag didn't hit my feet cause I was just wearing sneakers.

Besides I've moved onto bigger things. Pic related as I can't find old photos of blown up PTR. Must have been on old phone.

>>136328159

that commie mag

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>>136328159
>I'm NOT directly blaming the gun.

That's a hell of a typo and I pretty much made the opposite argument thankfully.

>>136328424
Don't worry I uncucked her and live in a free state now.

>>136328159
>>136328479

Fug, I just caught all sorts of typos. Getting late.

>>136319543
>this faggot rail covered shit instead of the real deal
fucking kill yourself

>>136320002
>Shit Americans say

>>136319543
Why wouldn't you get a century c308? It's a rebuilt g3 from surplus rifles. It retails at around 500.

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>>136319543
Should have gotten this MP5 instead

>>136320649
I hope this is bait...

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>>136329018
>Shit Europeans can't own

>>136321003
Dont let him pick your pocket!

>>136319543
CDNN has PTR91 rifles for about $800-900 pretty regularly. Too bad 20 round German magazines aren't around for 50¢ each anymore though.

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.308 accurate, punches hard, green tips penetrate lv111 armor, and as far as kick is considered don't be a bitch get tough.

>>136331466
>PTR
>accurate
?

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>>136329795
I see what you did there you cheeky Aussie.

>>136323557
there are gorillions of mosins. if it's not a special one who give a shit?

>>136321181
Heavy not really accurate 2+ moa and sucks ass to mount optics no last shot hold open. Great weapon in 1975 but not today and not for the money.

Smith and Wesson M&P 10 much better in all regards for same money.

And yes I owned a ptr 91

>>136319543
IS THAY FAMAS?