Should vaping be illegal?

>am vaping now
are you mad, faggot? LMFAO

>>136298866
>probably more dangerous than cigarettes
Gonna need a source on that one.

>>136298866
You can't outlaw everything that's degenerate. Force people to act like good people won't actually teach them to be good people.

>>136298994
Doesn't bother me that you'll probably die at 40

>>136298866
This thread belongs in the >>>/trash/
Reminder to report and sage spam threads

>>136299090
why is vaping degenerate? if you want nicotine without getting cancer and various other diseases, you vape.

>tfw not considered a smoker on my health insurance because i vape
the science and doctors backing this must be retarded and 100% wrong?

>only degenerates vape

lol no, they're just HUGE nerds

>>136299212
I guess you like sucking on big black cylindrical things

>>136299112
do some research, moron.

why is it that if you vape you aren't considered a smoker on your health insurance? cigarettes are far worst. end yourself for being this dumb.

>>136298866
>probably more dangerous than cigarettes
That's never going to be true. Even if you burned vaping fluid, you still might end up less dangerous than cigarettes.

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>>136298866
Take the snuff pill

>>136298994
Please Stop Liking What I Don't Like.

tHANKS.

>>136299386
the chemicals in vaping are like 2-3 vs cigarettes are more than 20 times. it's already been proven the chemicals in vape are harmless. nocotine doesnt give you cancer or diseases, it's the extra bullshit they add to cigarettes and keeps you're body physically hooked.

This thread is subversive.
Can't we talk about the globalist bankers controlling our lives and destroying our families or something?

Clearly flavored vaporized water is the greater evil more detrimental to civilization.

I greatly prefer robotdick vapors over normal secondhand smoke. One, because cigarette smoke makes me want to smoke again even though I quit; two, because vapors smell obnoxious which reminds me why I don't vape; third, secondhand smoke triggers my asthma but vapors don't.

>>136299551
I've only ever seen one person do snuff before. It's a stupid looking behavior and I can't imagine it feels good.

>>136299362
The science isn't out yet, so they can't make definitive conclusions, but it could turn out to be worse than smoking. Do your research

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/feb/04/e-cigarettes-toxic-chemicals-research-finds-lung-damage

>>136298866
>probably more dangerous than cigarettes
Kill yourself, PM shill.

>>136299599
>it's the extra bullshit they add to cigarettes and keeps you're body physically hooked.
Nah. It's a matter of combustion. Breath any sort of smoke regularly and you will develop problems.

>>136298866
meh better to walk through clouds that smell like cinnamon buns than burning cigarette tobacco.

>>136299309
whatever you think a nerd is into i am not, comics, vidya, tabletop games, etc, i can't give 2 shits about nerd culture, but i love me some pure nicotine vape while hiking the mountains of the midwest usa. a smoker couldn't do that.

>>136298866
Fuck off you authoritarian faggot.

if someone is blowing vape clouds in your face then he's an asshole. i used to vape (helped me quit smoking) but i never blew it in anyones face.

and no, it's not worse then ciggs, risks are minimal. science has yet to prove whether it's 90% safer then smoking or 95% safer then smoking, basically. so fuck. calm down.

i get it, it looks dorky, you cringe, you hate. calm down, cause your edginess is even more cringe then the cringest citizens of the vape nation

stupid thread anyways, sage

>>136299760
ya you're an idiot. it's not smoke, it water vapor. look into the chemicals in smoke and the chemicals in water vapor. you wont. so end yourself.

>>136299669
I don't vape (and I don't plan on ever vaping) but I actually like the smell of vape, especially the more fruity ones

>>136298866
Nice arms.

>>136299760
This, its not "all dem chemicals" that's bad for you, its the fact you're breathing smoke like a retard. Even dumb animals are smarter than smokers, they'll stand upwind of fire. And smokers are all child abusers, the worst of scum.

>>136299942
>especially the more fruity ones
I bet you do, Rohm.

have you tried vaping though? it's very nice

>>136299899
science has proven it, asshole. why the hell am i not a smoker on my health insurance even tho i claim to vape?

>>136299722
>Scientists also found that e-cigarette vapour contained free radical toxins similar to those found in cigarette smoke and air pollution – although at around 1% of the level of conventional cigarettes.

And you just lost credibility, thanks

>>136298866
Hopefully never, because the government shouldnt decide these things.

Why is there so much cigarette shilling on /pol/?
Really weird thing to defend while calling other people degenerate

all the studies i've seen pointing to risks tend to test out shitty chinese ecigs and juices. that flavouring that causes popcorn lung, diacetyl, is already illegal in north america.

but to maximize safety, go for a stainless steel coil in your vape, not nichrome. and high vg or all vg juices. not that pg is super risky or anything, they used to pump childrens hospitals full of it to prevent infection.

>>136300167
its because science has proven the certain chemicals that give you cancer and various diseases. those chemicals do not exist in vape. KILL YOURSELF NOWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>136299920
>le just water vapor bruh!
How does water vapor give you a nicotine buzz and smell like shit? Water vapor is vaporized water. Eshit smoke is vaporized eliquid. eliquid =/= water

>>136298866
No
fuck yourself vigorously with your stupid opinion.

>>136298866
No, vaping is a good way to get smokers to stop smoking, or at least to give up on tobacco.

I think vaping is gay as fuck but it helped me kick cigs

>>136300167
i'm on your side dude, science has proven it safe, but they don't know whether it's super safe, or super duper safe. fuck, did you even read my comment or did you just have a knee jerk reaction to it cause you thought i was saying something else?

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Who /cigar/ here?

>>136300283
lmao. you're an idiot man. look into chemicals in cigarettes, and chemicals in vape and thei reffect on health. do it now faggot. NOW! YOU WONT! HAHAHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
its all there! you're just a faggot close minded idiot.

>inhaling moisture
ummm like wouldn't that cause pneumonia?? You guys are retarded.

proud vapeboi here.
i got fucked in the ass at least 50 times but im not gay (only one partner tho). helped me quit cigs so im fine

>>136299249
>still inhaling garbage
>defending inhaling garbage

Stay classy, /pol/, you degenerate faggots!

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>>136300412

>>136300412
Go be gay somewhere else. Maybe try >>>/lgbt/

This is now a tobacco thread. Bubble gum smoking mouth breathers need not post. So what's /pol/'s daily smoke?

>>136300539
basically everyone in this thread is retarded, you and i included. anyone who argues with this is also a retard

>>136300384
i misread. you're ok for a leaf. apologies.

>>136300685
Nicotine is known to increase your IQ by up to 6 points.

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>>136300800
forgot to post mine

>>136300685
>garbage
thats just your dumb opinion bro. stay mad as i enjoy myself vaping. ;)

>>136300539
it's not moisture it's vegetable based oil substance

and no you phuking moron you would be fine even if it were moisture
>what is fog
>what happens when you accidentally breathe in water

>>136300539
>inhaling moisture
>>what is atmosphere?

I'll take obvious for $1k, Alex.

>>136300412
I have been for a couple of months now, it's a nice break from vaping. Any brand suggestions?

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>>136299212


Lol is it this one

op prefers to smoke cock

>>136298866
commie faggot

>>136300862
whenever i think about yuropeans smoking i just think they've made bad decisions but are basically normal people
whenever i think about americans smoking i think they are subhuman trash

why is this

>>136300886
Go ahead and enjoy it, I don't care. It's not my lungs that are breaking down with each inhalation of the bronchial Jew.

>>136299722
Did you even read what you linked?

>>136300800
Fuck off. Only fags and scum smoke, whichever you are you aren't welcome here.

>>136300173
>not realizing the tobacco industry pays millions for vape propaganda because theyre afraid of competition.
hehehehehehe
>muh less that 1% which isn't even true
LMAO try harder

>>136300826
>t. T.J. Miller

>>136300826
No shit, nicotine is a nootropic

>>136301218
the chemicals that break down your lungs don't exist in vape, but are heavily prevalent in tobacco. nice try, tobacco jew.

>>136299085

It hasn't been tested yet but a lot of oils come from China or South East Asia....especially the non nicotine ones.

I have friends who quit smoking with vaping but they have more of a cough than they did when they smoked ciggerettes. This is a cough that you can hear the snot breakaway from their lungs.

They are not heavy vapers either...they only use them around social situations and their vapes don't produce much vapor at all

This vape thread really made me crave a cigarette. Stepping outside and sparking a smooth, packed smoke. Inhaling that first satisfying puff from the cigarette.

>>136301228
Funny coming from a lolbertarian faggot whose life revolve around getting high and whose political ideology is completely based around legalizing a fucking plant.

>>136299671
>being stupid on purpose

>>136301439
good. enjoy it. as a vape smoker i would love a cig but i just refuse to fuck myself. cigs do give a better feel tho. i admit, but its only because of all the extra poisonous chemicals they add into it to make you physically dependent on it.

i used to smoke yellow american spirits.

>>136301439
>fags sucking fags

>>136301629
Cigs also look a lot cooler than your little cuck box.

If you do it as a smoking alternative with nicotine and a taste that makes sense its fine.
If its 0-nicotine and blueberry childrape flavour then please neck yourself.
Do that shit at home behind closed doors.
t. Guy who orders 18mg menthol juice for grandma

>>136301839
if you're still concerned about "looking cool" than you're blue pill'd and dumb sheep'd as fuck. i'm sorry. not really. you deserve it.

>>136300862
How many children have you abused recently? People like you need to be killed

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>>136298866
Popcorn lung kills.

>>136301839
>Cigs also look a lot cooler
No, they look gay and trashy. When people see you smoking they think "does, what a piece of shit".

>>136301411

>defends the tobacco jew
>doesn't defend the vape jew exploding in xis pocket
>doesn't deny the vape jew breaking down xis lungs in any other way
>defends degeneracy

>>136301924
I don't do either because I'm not a little cucklet.

>>136301150
Americans die from lung cancer
Europeans get treatment

Plus tobacco was a luxury item in europe when it was first brought over, so it left a certain cultural imprint.

In america its just "that plant the Crimson Niggers introduced us to"

>>136298866
>muh degeneracy
argument invalid
>probably more dangerous than cigarettes
lol no
>creates huge cloud which envelopes everyone nearby
just tell people not to do that in public places
>explodes in peoples faces
some cellphones did that too, let's ban all cellphones then?

>>136302006
Theres never been a case of popcorn lung caused by anything besides inhaling the hot flavor dust in large amounts

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I'm convinced that most anti-vape propaganda is spread by tobacco companies.

>>136301418
>>probably more dangerous than cigarettes
Nigger, you made a claim, now back it up

>>136301418
>it must be bad for you because of my friends anecdotal experience!
>his unrelated cough tells more truth about vaping harm than any evidence or study has to offer!

Fuck off. Unless there is a study that shows vaping is bad then it should be regulated like how cigarettes are currently.

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>>136302135
>whatever i dont like is jew
ill blow vape in your face while i repeatedly punch it in. at least you don't get "muh 2nd hand smoke"

>>136302139
really? you're a girlfriendless virgin angry about people who vape. LMAO. KEK. the girl you like will never be with you.

>>136298866
>not getting a healthy dose of masculine nicotine without all the kikery that is tobacco

>>136298866
>vaping
>degenerate
the fact that many degenerates vape lies in the fact that they like everything that is new and hip.

>>probably more dangerous than cigarettes
Source?

>>136302460
>vaping
>new
you're must be new to the world. how older where you 10 years ago? vaping existed then.

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>>136302322
Fuck your long cut fagit

>>136299119
>will kill the tabacoo industry

...where do you think nicotine comes from

>>136301629
They're only $5 or so and a stone's throw away, a quick run to the nearest gas station.

>>136302418
>whatever i dont like is jew

I don't care if you kill yourself. I thought that was apparent. Just don't expect any empathy for your situation in it's final stage.

>>136301033
aayyy I just got the black & blue one a few days ago.

Shitty EU limits on tanks though, max of 2ml.

>>136302436
>not getting a healthy dose of masculine tobacco without all the kikery that is menthol, chemical additives, sugar, short cigarettes and ridiculous anti-smoking ads on the packaging

Why is Marijuana illegal when tobacco/alcohol is legal?

>>136300412
Yarr. Fucking poorfags should all kill themselves. Cigar is for real men.

>>136302708
>literally thinking vaping is as bad as cigarettes
your iq is nigger low.

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>>136302251
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/lung-cancers/by-country/

http://www.wcrf.org/int/cancer-facts-figures/data-specific-cancers/lung-cancer-statistics

>Americans die from lung cancer
>Europeans get treatment

Denmark has both higher rates of lung cancer and higher death rates you retarded fish eating faggot

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>>136302580
You must be young if a decade old invention is considered old. It's relatively new, at least in Europe. The technology was shit and expensive at the beginning (cartomizers) and not user friendly so plebs couldn't get behind it. Now I see shops opening up left and right, and the occasional hipster with some goofy looking machinery.

>>136302581
tfw cant keep fine cut packed right

>>136298866

>Should /pol/ be illegal?
>Only degenerates visit.

>>136302918
>Why is Marijuana illegal when tobacco/alcohol is legal?

Marijuana used to be legal, until certain people wanted it banned due to paper/textiles competing with it.

>>136300197
Why not kanthal? That's the most common one, anyway.

>>136302918
Lobbying power.
A corn mogul lobbied to have cannabis/hemp banned due to its """dangers"""
The term marijuana was originally Mexican and was chosen for the anti-weed campaigns due to it sounding foreign.

Hemp is vastly superior to corn, so the (((American))) banned it out if fear of market competition.

Weed is degenerate, hemp is patrician.

>>136301033
Smok alien Tc mod. Topkek, that's my current mod, but with an innokin scion tank

>>136303013
>literally thinking there are studies on shitty vaping chemicals introduced in the past few years that are as comprehensive as those on tobacco

Your "reasoning skills" are below that of the downiest of the retarded downs or the niggerest of the nigs.

>>136303545
It might be degenerate but I'm a 30 year old White single male, homeowner with 2 vehicles. I'm a CNC milling machinist and a programmer, I don't use tobacco and rarely drink. My mind fucking races and I sometimes need to come down off my natural high. Taking 2 hits of weed helps me.

>>136303683
What chemicals were introduced? It's glycerin and PG, optionally nicotine, all that stuff is ancient.

>>136298866
Vaping is the most homosexual act a person could commit short of penetrating another man's anus

>>136303897
>What chemicals were introduced? It's glycerin and PG, optionally nicotine, all that stuff is ancient.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_cigarette

>E-cigarettes create vapor that consists of ultrafine particles, with the majority of particles in the ultrafine range.
>The vapor has been found to contain flavors, propylene glycol, glycerin, nicotine, tiny amounts of toxicants, carcinogens, heavy metals, and metal nanoparticles, and other chemicals.
>Exactly what comprises the vapor varies in composition and concentration across and within manufacturers.
>However, e-cigarettes cannot be regarded as simply harmless.
>There is a concern that some of the mainstream vapor exhaled by e-cigarette users can be inhaled by bystanders, particularly indoors.

Vaping is a huge deal to the deep state. DWS was against Vaping. It gets around big tob, taxes, and big pharma. Op must love big govt.

>>136298866
Vaping right now
Rx200 mod TFV8 tank

>>136303801
And by god you have the right, my opinion should not impact your personal freedom.

>>136301418
Yeah dooder most of the juices are made in America by small businesses , if people are dumb enough to buy the big tobacco sponsored ones in gas stations that's on them
This is either shit bait, big tobacco shilling, or an edge lord trying to feel better about himself. Either way back to plebbit Plz

>>136304633
But I live in Pennsylvania so I don't have the right.

>>136298866
I don't like how large the vapour is, shit goes everywhere and it makes it pretty unfun to walk behind someone who's vaping.

>>136300539
Most e-juices are a mixture of food grade vegetable glycerine, propylene glycol, nicotine and some flavoring. If you're going to get something nasty in the mix, it will most likely be from the flavoring. I'm allergic to the PG, so I use a glycerine and ethanol mix without flavoring.

>>136298866
God I wanna slip my little dick in that little slutty bitch's fucking pussy and blow my fucking load

>>136301418
>it hasn't been tested yet, but...
Then don't say that it's more dangerous than smoking. That's a big claim and you had better have at least some study or report on than being true rather than just pulling out a story from your personal life.

I'm not a fan of either vaping or smoking but I don't think we should assume vaping is worse than smoking just because it hasn't received the same amount of attention.

>>136302675
Here they are 20 bucks a pack whereas for 10 bucks I can buy enough vape fluid for a week or two. Is your tard guard taking a shit or something?

>>136301522
Your smoke violates the NAP.

>>136302675
I get a year's worth of e-liquid for under $100.

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>>136302750

You have my pity.

We don't have that limit on tanks. We only have the following limits:

> Liquid containers <= 10ml
> Nicotine strength <= 20mg/ml
> Liquid must be "tested" independently by some lab for impurities (good thing imo)

But I mix my own liquids with 100mg/ml nicotine imported from the Netherlands, so it doesn't affect me.

eVic VTwo Mini with OBS Engine Mini and Kanthal 26 AWG @ 0.5 Ohms and 55 Watts.

>>136298994
I'm vaping on some Chill orange peach right now my nigga

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Would you guys say SS is better than Kanthal? Thinking of switching.

>>136305307
5.25V? How long does a battery last on that fucker? I built my own so that I could use NiMH and pick up AAAs for when I can't charge them.

>>136304349
Levels of metals found in these studies are well below the maximum permissible daily exposure and it is by far lower compared to tobacco cigarettes. Nobody said they were healthy vitamin sticks, but still a 100x better alternative to cigarettes.

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>>136304349
So basically what he said?

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side quest:
>Post pics of ur vapes to make op mad.
I'll start

>>136305784

Half a day typically. I have 3 spares in my charger, so not an issue. I have to refill juice quite often though (5-6 times a day). I vape about 10-12 ml a day.

Again since I mix my juices myself it's not an issue. 10ml cost me about 25 cents to make (including nicotine and flavour, not including bottles, but those are reusable). With bottles it would probably be 30 cent per 10ml.

>>136298866
Let faggots inhale their smoke if they want to. Who cares.

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>>136306257
that mod looks clean, what is it?

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>>136306257
>>136306037

My first coil on the OBS Engine. Yes, I know it is ugly as fuck, but I wound it on a drill by hand. And it worked OK.

I have since bought a coil winder (Kuro Koiler) and the new coils look more even.

>>136306065
Holy shit. I hit mine like a nigger on a crackpipe and I go through something closer to 2ml/day. But I don't like the sub-ohm coils. I shoot for around 2.5 ohm when I wrap a new coil on top of 4.8v with fresh batteries. I picked up 10m of kanthal for $7, which is enough to last several years.

I mix my own too. 1/2L of 100mg/ml lasts me at least a year, and that's $70, plus the glycerine which is cheap. I use ethanol to thin it out since I'm allergic to PG, and I've found that the slightly sweet flavor of the VG is good enough and don't dick with flavor.

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>>136306431
nice anon

>>136306330

On the pic you can see the eVic VTwo Mini with the Cubis Pro Tank attached. In the packaging is my new tank the OBS Engine Mini. I like the Engine more because the flavour is much better and I can wind my own coil and use my own cotton of choice.

>>136306512

> Holy shit. I hit mine like a nigger on a crackpipe and I go through something closer to 2ml/day. But I don't like the sub-ohm coils. I shoot for around 2.5 ohm when I wrap a new coil on top of 4.8v with fresh batteries. I picked up 10m of kanthal for $7, which is enough to last several years.

I bought 5m for 2 Eur with cotton two days ago. Also 10m NiChrome and Ni200 for 5 Eur each. That should also last me a while.

I like sub-ohming more because I dig the clouds.

> I mix my own too. 1/2L of 100mg/ml lasts me at least a year, and that's $70, plus the glycerine which is cheap. I use ethanol to thin it out since I'm allergic to PG, and I've found that the slightly sweet flavor of the VG is good enough and don't dick with flavor.

That was the route I was going to go at first, too. No aroma, just 20/80 PG/VG. But I don't like the no-aroma taste. I use Strawberry and Pineapple as my two daily aromas.

I've never tried pure VG/water or VG/ethanol.
I paid 16 Eur for 100ml.

>>136306561
You like the cotton? I stick to the stainless mesh. It seems to be pretty clean on what flavors come through.

>>136300412
Just had a bourbon soaked cigar for the first time in a month. Had such good body to it.

>>136306037
I have same one with alien mod, it was fucking great for a long time but recently the vapor is so hot it burnt my throat, so now im pretty fucked for nicotine because it hurts to vape, thinking of quitting soon but i really like nicotine as a drug, keeps me alert without jitters or any negative side effects, maybe switch back to nicorette gum

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>>136306957

I have since bought better cotton than in the pic. I like cotton because it's cheap and can be changed quickly.

I am waiting for pic rerlated. Import from Japan.

>>136298866
Degenerates should be looked down upon.

Instead it's "cool" to be a trashy nigger.

Hopefully we mature as a society.

>>136306923
>I paid 16 Eur for 100ml.

I mean the 100mg/ml nicotine.

>>136298866
Based on your digits, I'd say between 6.6-66 years from now.

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>>136298866
More importantly, whores with backward hats and tattoos should be illegal and punishable by death, bot even torture or stoning or any of that take too long shit. Just absolute and instant on-site death.

Just got the Vaporous by wotofo today, fucking awesome, fantastic flavor, good build deck, looks beautiful and outstanding price.

Just waiting for my noisy cricket 2 to come in

And hope you lads are DIYing your juice

>>136307548
>not liking sluts to walk around advertising their easiness

What's wrong with you

>>136301418
Anyone who's quit smoking knows you cough more after and during quitting. Your celia is coming back and cleaning all the filth out of your lungs. I'll admit that there aren't any solid long term studies, but compared to cigarettes its a no brainer.

>>136301033
my greasy sputton

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>>136307686
>advertising their easiness
>easiness
There's nothing easy about STD's, abortions, single mothers, rape, murder, old maids, addiction or anything associated with sluts whoring their bodies out for profit.
Think on that before you take another step toward chaos.

I don't understand what exactly the beef is with tobacco companies when you can literally save hundreds of dollars a month in cigarette costs by going to a smoke shop (they're literally everywhere nowadays), buy a roller ($50 and mines lasted over a year), buy 250 tubes ($3), and buy a giant bag of grounded tobacco ($20) which will make you at least 400 cigarettes. I can smoke for literally 3 months for like $50 total an it's all the same shit.

Is the government trying to encourage competition or something?

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>>136307821

>>136307644
> Vaporous by wotofo
Looks good, but I don't get which holes you use there? And why they're spaces so weird? Please explain.

> noisy cricket 2

That thing looks bad, imho. The control is analog, how do you really set temperature reliably there? Also no display? :(

>>136307929
hop online buy 100mg/ml 250ml bottle buy 4 gallons of vg and quanitity of flavoring to match get a ltr of pg for dilution and you can smoke for pennies a day plus sell to skiddie kids who want flavoor joos with no nicotine slightly spike it with nic and raise it as they buy more n more.

>>136307929
>400 cigarettes in 3 months
I smoke 400 in 10 days. Natural shit is garbage, just is not the quality product marlboros are.

>>136308135
Fucking peat gavel

>>136298994
I'm vapin' on some sweet shortbread sugar cookie honey jam cotton candy melon lemonade

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>>136308060
Noisy cricket 2 is a mechanical mod, so no temp settings, can go either full power in parallel or put it in series and use the dial to set the voltage you want it to fire at


for the RDA
can go from the post on the left to the right can use either the holes or the top bar or hole to top bar
Picture helps to explain

>>136298994
I am also underage and in high school.

>>136298866
Been smoking cigaret since the age of 12.
It's pretty hard to quit without wanting to pounce on everyone who looks at me the wrong way.
Though with vaping I can actually run and such.
Mind your business faggot

>>136308525

Ah I see! Looks like a great, versatile tank!

Still don't like the mod though.

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>>136298866
Honestly almost every vape person ive ever seen or known tends to be such a huge faggot vaping like its just the next fad alongside yo yo's and fidget spinners. Jesus these douches are unreal, they tend to be poor yuppies who fucked up at Uni after a few years of a worthless film studies course or some other politically correct in-tune fucking thing.

Why wont this ridiculous fad just end right now and everyone can go back to smoking like normal people do. Fucking goddamn, just look at OP's pic, I mean, does that bitch look right to you? I'm willing to bet actual currency that its a dude, look at the muscle and facial features, not to mention hand size.

Do I need to mention anything more about vapists other than that they're solid beta's most of the time with shit gutter personalities and no prospect in life?

>>136303000
Meth is for the enlightened.

don't step on me asshole

>>136308745
>fad
It's like 10 years old now buddy. You better invest in it now because it's going to be the norm in another 5-10 years.

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>>136308745

mfw it makes you so mad

>>136308727
Not quite a tank, gotta drip down onto the coils fairly frequently

If you have never tried a RDA/ dripper before oh man, you will actually really taste your flavor and you a lot more control over your coils since you are either wrapping yourself or buying some premade and get to choice your wicking material of choice

>>136299085
studies are weak and inconclusive but show that vaping is likely 5% as dangerous as smoking.

>>136298866

In the long term vaping does more damage to the lungs than smoking because the harm it does isn't felt as early. If you smoke too much you cough your ass off and stop. If you vape too much you keep going with a whistling cough and get popcorn lung, when you go to sleep you gasp like a fish on land because the air starts to get absorbed poorly through the damaged lungs.

Don't vape. Don't inhale chinese gutter oil. Chew nicotine gum.

>>136308942
>If you have never tried a RDA/ dripper before oh man, you will actually really taste your flavor and you a lot more control over your coils since you are either wrapping yourself or buying some premade and get to choice your wicking material of choice

I own a RDA. I did not know dripper types existed until just now. I guess you're right about the flavour but it would be too much of a hassle to keep dripping all the time.

I could see me using one of those at home at my desk while working, but not when I am outside or in my car.

>>136300283

I don't get it. It's not even water. It's vegitable glycerol, food flavorings and nicotine.

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I got one of these with a different atty. Squonking really is the best of all worlds.

>>136309037

No, the studies showed that it's at most 5% as dangerous as smoking. The remaining percentage points are just from uncertainty of long term effects of some coils / atomizer metallicity and long-term effects of PG/VG.

So 5 % is the max but it can be a lot lower when we can see more data over the years. I expect it to drop a hundred-fold to 0.05% after another twenty years of research.

Also most of the metallicity can be avoided by using coils made out of SS or Ti.

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>>136308937
>>136308940
Ah yes ofcourse, anyone reading these two fine examples should visualize that both these sad fucks are probably living at home with 'mutti and pops' still, probably autist weeb fucks who wear a MAGA fedora and never smoked a cigarette or drunk a little glass of whiskey in their lives. These fucks are probably vegans at best, or full on animal rights activist terrorists. Fuck every one of you pansy fruity fucks, if you have a problem with my opinion I hope the battery pack for your shitty FAD device explodes in your hand for being such loathsome hipster nu-right wank stains.

>>136298866
Only degenerates vape.
It sometimes explodes on people.
Yet you want the government to protect degenerates from themselves?

>>136308940
Every fag who gets teased or ripped on for a faggot hobby says this.
>l-lol y-you're mad as fuck

>>136309421

Jokes on you I'm a raging alcoholic ;^) and ex-smoker.

>>136309421
Why don't you say that to my face pussy?

>>136309450

But his rage has literally zero consequences to me enjoying vaping. It's literally just entertaining for me. Why would I be

>l-lol y-you're mad as fuck

>>136300412
>acid
Have i just set sail on the ruse cruise ?

>>136309603
"Face pussy"? Is that what kids are calling it now?

>>136299551
This nigga knows whats up

>>136298866
>When is the government going to crackdown and starts throwing vapers in jail?
Thats fucking rich coming from an america.
Tenth amendment mother fucker.
WHAT EVA I DO WHAT I WANT.
-Murica.

>>136298866

why do you care what people are using or doing? If they do it next to you and cloud or "smoke" affects you then you can either move away or voice your opinion and tell them to respect your small bubble. But that's all!!!! do not give Gov't anymore power than it already has, LESS GOV"T OVERSIGHT and more self-policing, surely most of us aren't complete morons and can police our own drug/sex/entertainment habits, right?

>>136309603
Are you serious? Not even a navyseal pasta? You don't intimidate me you fruity butt loving bastard

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>>136309421
he mad

>>136309450
thank you, some sensible people here after all, god save the queen

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>>136309603

>>136308578
>>136308578
>>136308578

>I am also underage and in high school.

MODS
MODS
MODS
MODS

>>136309862
That's not what your sister thought when I was vaping her in the mouth

>>136309964
> T-Thanks a-anon for holding my hand defending my rage desu

:^)

>>136310165
Thems fightin words m8

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Vaping is for slack jawed faggots

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>>136310379
I can almost hear the roaring drum harmonic to your smokers voice. The kind of voice that reduces MILF's to the floor gushing from their cunt desperate for your cock to enter them because its bass frequencies are hitting their cervix with every word you speak. That's the power of a REAL smoking man!

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>>136302006
>YFW there is more of the chemical that "causes" popcorn lung in cigs than in any eliquid
>no one has ever gotten popcorn lung from cigs

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i run reddit's vaping community, AMA

>>136312033

Very good subreddit. Just wanted to thank you! Got all my info from there.

>>136312033
what up Virus11010

>>136302270
>inhaling hot flavor dust in large amounts
So vaping?

>>136298866
I used it to stop dipping, I only do it once in a while and only in designated smoking areas, if I'm inside and I don't want to go outside then I ask if I can vape, and apologize if the vapor goes in people's faces. I use a regulated mod, because I'm not a retard, and I did enough research on coils and know enough about resistance/ohms to not do anything stupid.

>>136298994
>vapes
>calls people faggots

>>136299362
>cigarettes are far worst
Apparently, vaping severely damages the verbal zone in your brain.

>>136312153
I don't contribute, but glad you like it

>>136301418
Your friends cough more because they probably use propylene glycol instead of vegetable glycerin, i.e. they smoke the shit from the gas station and not good stuff online.

>>136298866
Snus is the way to be

>>136301418
>This is a cough that you can hear the snot breakaway from their lungs.

That's a good thing. Do you prefer the liquid which condenses in the lungs being such high viscosity that it stays stuck? Because that's what you get with cigarettes.

>>136299603
Vaping has nicotine and other chemicals. It's not simply gaseous h2o, if it was, it would scald your lungs.

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Vaping is redpilled

>>136301418
Your friends cough more because their lungs are healing and discarding the shit that clogged them up for years, there have been marathon runners that went from smoking to vaping and they went through the same thing, the vegetable glycerin is the cleanest version of the vape so if they don't vape that you could also possibly pass it off as a mild irritant and possible allergies.

>>136299599
>it's already been proven the chemicals in vape are harmless
No, it hasn't. Obviously, vaping severely impedes critical thinking.

e-vapes give you dangerous levels of estrogen and i will put you down in the street if i see you hittin a vape stick

>>136312709
>People who have smoked all their lives lived passed 100
Uncountable number

>People who have vaped all their lives and lived passed 100
0

>only degenerates vape
Government's job isn't to curtail degeneracy.

>probably more dangerous than cigarettes
What's your reasoning here?

>creates huge cloud which envelopes everyone nearby
Then ban doing it in public establishments as is the case with cigarettes.

>explodes in peoples faces
Then perhaps we need some safety regulations to ensure this shit doesn't happen?

>>136299760
There isn't any combustion happening when you vape, faggot. That's why it's a VAPorizer and not a BUNRorizor.

fucking chinese batteries

are there any vapes out there that use superior nip technology batteries?

>>136300160
This btw 50 mg nic master race

>>136298994
Sign off this website right now!!!

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>>136312722
>tfw the throat hit sends you into an alternate reality where machine elf Jews control the very fabric of space time

>>136313048
>explodes in peoples faces
Retards can't charge a battery properly. Vaping obviously limits thinking capacity.

Did you know since tabacco has been discouraged, men are becoming infertile pussies?

>>136312987
kek'd

>>136312902
I quit smoking a few months ago and was contemplating on getting one of those electronic fake fag cigarretes, but after contemplating i decided to go cold turkey since i don't really look like a faggot with a smoke cloud bigger than a regular cigarrete.

>>136313127

I use Samsung (not nips) 25R and Sony VTC6. I like the VTC6 more because they are 3100 mAh and can do 25A while the 25R only have 2500 mAh but can do 30A.

Since I never use more than 25A, I prefer the Sony cells.

>>136298866
more important question is why do 90% of vapefags think that vape is non-addictive and doesn't damage their brain and that you can't be affected by second hand smoke from people vaping?

it's like unless there's all these commercials saying how something is bad for you people assume there's no harm

>>136313482
>gook batteries

still infinitely better than chink shit. thanks m8, i'll look into it

>>136313494
Only non-addictive if you don't have nicotine (unless I'm uninformed of something)

Most of these vapers are pussies to scared to smoke, so they vape to look instead. They'll say they have nicotine in their liquid, but they don't

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>>136299599
>harmless
I see your brain is already suffering from several years of vaping
kek what an idiot

>>136313482
All this technical bullshit to look like a fucking douche canoe.

>>136313262

>Did you know since tabacco has been discouraged, men are becoming infertile pussies?
Funny, tobacco use actually decreases sperm count. Have you considered the possibility that some other factor in the past 40 years may have contributed to greater infertility?

>>136313748

Well, I'm an an electronics engineer, so it's a plus for me. I like that nerdy stuff.

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>>136298866
Smoked for 13 years, vaped for 3 years, now 4 months no nicotine and dont care to look back. Fuck you OP for trying to take away the only thing that actually helps people quit.

>>136313688
>vaping without nicotine
except almost no one does that because the majority of vapers are people trying to replace smoking and edgy shits that want to be cool and get high

the medical community here in the US are already scrambling to stop retarded teenagers from vaping because it permanently screws up their still maturing brains

>>136313882
you're such a nerdy guy. you're into engineering and you vape and you wear glasses and you play videogames. this is what our battle aged men are doing with their lives.

>>136313748
>Says the beaner with spokes on his 1992 nissan sentra

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>not vaping and playing CSGO
OP a boring faggot

>>136313862
>tobacco use actually decreases sperm count
Did (((they))) tell you that?

>>136314019
What are you even saying?

>>136314019
what the fuck are you doing faggot?

pics or STFU

>>136298866
test

>>136314209
Test successful

>>136313942
it's fine if you want to quit but there's millions of idiots who 100% believe vaping is completely harmless and that they can blow steam in people's faces and it won't affect them

>>136314079
I actually own a 1974 duster and a 2011 Ranger.

>>136313882
I'm unemployed and i do shit with my lathe and mill that i was able to purchase when times were better.

>>136298866
Shareblue, Russia, Antifa wasn't enough, now we have big tobacco shills on this board.

>>136298866
Wow that sure is gay

>>136298866
Wow that is really gay

>>136298994
This website is 18+.
Fuck off faggot.

>>136298866
Wow that is really is gay

>>136298866
Nah, just socially unacceptable.

>>136314298
>blow steam in people's faces
do they really do this? i would get pissed off if somebody did this to me

>>136314555
I was in the air force and some faggot was vaping indoors and told us that it was harmless
I didn't know better so I just ignored him
and yes he was blowing his cancer steam at people's faces

>>136314555
if its flavored vape it smells good though

>>136314782
no it doesn't it smells like shit you faggot
it's more tolerable than cigarette smoke but that isn't a high mark

>>136298866
OP is a faggot jew tobacco shill
vaping is far healthier
no 100+ chemicals
no faggot gay smell
no faggot disgusting aftertaste
no asthma
cheaper
DOES NOT blow up if you arent a faggot like mixing components

once again, OP is a faggot tobacco jew shill trying to keep more shekels in his pockets to protect the goy globalist faggot tobacco corp
kill the OP. if i had the OP right here with me i would slit his throat, fuck the open wound, then strangle the open with my boot laces. also id kill his entire family for raising a worthless faggot jew shill

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>>136314555
No, it's like how left wing faggots make up hypotheticals and then stand behind them like they are concrete evidence.

>>136314949
lol yeah okay
I must have been imagining it

>>136298866
Just shame them desu, anytime I see some douche vaping I just chortle, shake my head, walk away, give them a patronizing look, etc.

>>136314698
its not steam u worthless faggot nigger bitch
ill science you really quick

example. fog is just water vapor. its not steam. its still liquid water. vaping is just that. its a fog. if it was steam, ok listen close, it would fucking burn your lungs to a crisp you dumb fucking faggot KIKE
but you are a typical amerifat educated nigger piece of shit. thank god i didnt turn out like a god damn loser retard like you. i fucking hope your entire family is raped and murdered you faggot navy bum licker. only faggots who love sucking cock join the navy, like YOU

This thread is insane. Fuck this world.

>>136315161
i blew my vape in a faggots face, kinda like you described. looked at me with that smug little fag look like you know shit from shit you little fag. walked right up after a 5 second inhale and blew it in his fucking face and dared him to do something about it. little faggot. id love to cut your throat and fuck the open wound

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>work next to a vape shop and a tobacconist
>AND a head shop

you wanna know who is the least amount of asshole? oh, yes, the vapers like to blow biiiiig fucking plumes of....apple pie smelling smoke, oh fucking no. id rather have the tobacco smokers spewing shit smelling smoke everyyyywhere and leaving fucking ciggie butts everywhere! wayyyyyy better

even the fucking weed smokers try to be discrete because its fucking illegal here still

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>>136314879
whatever bitchnigger. Boring fag who cant have fun

>>136315197
...I said steam because "cancer steam" sounded funny you retard kys

and I said AIR FORCE

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>>136301033
Only white is right nigger lover.

>>136298866
I vape CBD oil.

From scratch I have made my own ecig.I pulled the wires,I have bent the metal,Ihave wicked the coils,wrapped everything up with nice paint that glows in darkness,finished product is smooth and ready to go.I make my own e-juice,with vegetable glicerin that is 99.9% pure,with aroma I have extracted myself from vanilla and cinnamon,I use the most expensive and high quality nicotine base,I even did some laboratory test with a friend of mine who is a doctor,right now ending his studies in respiratory system field,so everything that has to do with lungs has to do with him,we ran the test and it showed that you would need to inhale and exhale an quivalent of air of 57 baskeball courts,with 4mg nictine strenght,to come anywhere close to the danger of shortest and lightest malboro twist light,and this is such a level that you can chieve by living in a small village with agricultural farming,yet there is a faggot who says that vaping is degenerate.

There should be a meme,with ,,virgin ciggaretes of classiness" and ,,CHADS SMOKESTICK"

>>136315443
>blowing nicotine into people's faces is "fun"
did I mention that people can suffer negative side effects from second hand "smoke" from vaping?

>>136314913
>cheaper
You stupid nigger how is it cheaper? You realize not every cigarette smoker buys the additive filled manufactured factory cigarettes, you can roll your own and buy tubes/filters cheap as shit with 100% leaf tabacco (NO ADDITIVES), Also the south made fortunes off of tobacco you should feel ashamed to wear that flag and shilling for chinese chemical oils.

>>136315356
id love to see cig smokers gassed or executed on sight

>>136314913

Scary. Am joining the anti vape fight specifically because of this ultra psychotic post.

>>136315675
I vape the equivalent of two packs of cigarettes a day for about 30 cents per day. You cannot do this with cigarettes.

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>mouth fedora

Light one up you sissy.

>>136315342
Careful with all that edge

>>136299318
Oh (You)

>>136315468
LOL navy, or air force same thing. faggots abound in both. how many dicks you suck on deck tonight faggot?

>>136315796
>sven flag
>not hookah

Your not a real sven are you?

>>136315602
>"buy my e-cigs"
>"don't worry they're totally harmless"
>kike literally shilling for shekels
I'm glad the FDA is gonna put vapor ware in the same classification as cigarettes next year>>136315602

>>136315503

Casually fits his outdated 'gaming' keyboard into the pic. HOLY SHIT!!!! LMFAO!!!!

>>136302070
I don't trust ppl who won't smoke a ciggie with me

>>136315757
Actually you can if you read my post ahmed

>>136300656
>i got fucked in the ass at least 50 times
> helped me quit cigs
???????????

>>136308135
it isn't necessarily natural, it's just not constructed into an actual smokable cigarette until you put it together

>>136315983

Only if you steal your tobacco. Are you a nigger?

>>136315857
1. I'm separated
2. the air force has plenty of women fyi (not that that's a good thing)

>>136315986
are you German perhaps?

>>136315757
>Poorfag can't afford cigarettes

Neck yourself

>>136316065
just a retard who doesnt realize you can buy a liter of concentrated dissolved nicotine for 50$ that would last you more than a year

>>136314113

Here, have some studies:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4639396/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4974764/

>>136315675
lol u dumb fag. you rly are a stupid fuck loser. tops i spend 5 dollars a week between coils and the joice to vape.
lol rollies. how quiant. an even more disgusting tasting shit cig and i have to spend even more time roll the fag shit on top of buying the gay little roller. its not cheaper you fuckwad. gubmint hiked those taxes to be almost on par with better tasting factory smokes.
on another note you fag sister fucker, my juice is produced in the states. from the base and the nicotene to the finished product. a whopping 3 ingredients total. your FAGGOT smokes, when burned, produces dozens of chemicals that are harmful whereas my veggie glyc and prop glycol are 100% safe (unles sa loser like you wants to drink a liter in 1 sittings then it MIGHT be bad). well i hate to say it but most of my southern "brothers" are still inbred as fuck

>>136315749
another jew boy shekel shiller. hoping a peaceful truck wipes you out.

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clown is best vape flavor

>>136316254
Both of you are fags but at least I quit smoking all the time.
A pack once in a blue moon and a cigar after sex.
Hate all of you.

>>136314555
Vaping is the new douche radar system
And yes I've seen this happen all the time

>>136316405
so u prolly havent smoked a cigar since last time your dad blew your asshole out eh canadian cuck?

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vapers are the same kind of cuck that gets off to all this (((Diversity))) either smoke unfiltered cigs or cigars. you're a white western male, start acting like one.

>>136316162
How can you roll a classical cigarette (which is what I am talking about with the gentleman with the Confederate flag) with dissolved nicotine? Curious. Do you grow lettuce in it and smoke the lettuce afterwards?

>>136312033
why don't you get the fuck out and never come back

>>136316615
no they smell like shit

if you are so concerned about looking like a real man then go smoke cigars and stop blowing fags

>>136316615
this >>136316709
cigarettes a womens version of cigar. If your such a tough guy light up a cigar

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>>136316709
nay, true American smokes like this and not the pussy disgusting Marlboro's are fine. either the Camels, PM's or Luckies.

I've also had the American Spirits unfiltered's but they have the same problem as all AS's with being packed too tight and tasting like only hay, not toasting or anything.
That, or just grow your own tobacco It's as easy as growing anything else, and no taxes.

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I'm /fit/ and have a good job, and have fucked a few chicks and dress with white button up shirts.

I also vape, nor am I white but people think I'm white. I'm french/irish and a little jap but nobody can see the asian, nor the girls would ever guess because every girl, especially blondes, tell me I have the best dick since the girth is thicc.
So no, vaping isn't just for white cuck trash.

It's for fucking idiots who like the taste. The clouds are fun. Fuck.

>>136316254
>lol u dummmb
Not an argument.
Enjoy your popcorn lung and synthetic chemicals though while you larp as a country boy and annoy everyone with your cotton candy faggot clouds.

>>136316321

No one taught you about the danger of rattling the tiger's cage did they? Your posts are obvious shill tactics. Showcase your real flag coward.

>>136316254
How shit of a pleb do you have to be to think factory cigarettes taste better than 100% leaf tobacco?

>>136298866
I know we joke about vapers, but as a non-smoker I think people who vape are 100000 times better than smokers.

Smells way better and clouds don't bother me at all.

Cigarette smoke is gross. Plus a lot of my friends who vape are using it to wean off cigarettes and a few of them have been cig free for over a year.

>>136316615
Luckies legit taste like perfume. They're the most disgusting cigarette I've ever had the misfortune of smoking and only a tasteless preening faggot who's way too concerned with the image of his masculinity would smoke them by choice.

>>136317391
>perfume

I think that's you and not the cigarette, you might want to get tested, and unfiltered tastes better and hits better than filters. or is the whole history of tobacco especially with filters just fake and shit? The biggest fake masculinity deal is with Marlboro's. of course, you'd know that if you knew what you were talking about. but you don't.

>>136317892
Oh it's the cigarette. They use so many fucking additives that it makes the cigarette taste like it's been through a chemical bath, because it literally has. Marlboros are very nearly as bad but since it's the pleb cigarette of choice there isn't much point in mentioning it because everyone already knows they taste like shit.

>>136317294

>one post by this id

The American Vaping Association is working overtime tonight.

Check out these Chinese liquid shillers http://vaping.org/about-us/

Even their website is trash.

>>136299309
Fedoras do it.

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>>136299090
>redpilled
>only used by disgusting white trash

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>>36298866

Look at these unhealthy poisonous liquid smoking shills. These are the clowns shitting up this thread. They're shit posting for nefarious marketing purposes. Why?