Give me one serious reason to believe in atheism

>>136139286

There is none.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=c1ufK04tjOI
What do you guys think about this video?

>>136139286
as long as you don't kill or steal or whatever, it's okay to not believe in God, you'll go to heaven anyway (if He exists)

>>136139286
>believe in atheism
I'm so fucking confused.

first there was nothing then boom science created everything
just have faith :^)

>>136139511
First there was nothing then boom amerifats came into existence to post stupid shit on 4chan

>>136139421
Too long, i will not watch, better tell me already whats here

Because if God was real and wanted the best for mankind, the Nazis would have won.

>needing someone else to tell you what to believe
top kek

I'll be here living a virtuous life, not stressing about shit. If I die and there's a deity, he'll let me into paradise based on my merit in life not based on what I verbalized towards the sky during my lifetime.

If he won't let me in, fuck him. I wouldn't serve a god like that regardless.

>>136139286
The case for any belief system can ultimately be undermined, but you have to choose one anyways. Decide which leap of faith calls to you and take it

>>136139286
Dawkins is a fucking twat... but you're not a true believer of God until you've looked into the abyss of atheism and explored that life earnestly... be an atheist and commit to it for a year or so and you'll realize for yourself

>>136139692
I'm a Pole, faggot, Nazis wanted to exterminate White Slavs and some of Romanics

>>136139769
>virtuous life
What is a virtuous life? Please define that... to me it's all relative... how do you know it's not virtuous to rape women??

>>136140027
morals in a western nation are pretty much universal

I get what you're going for, but still

>>136139621
He brings up pretty convincing arguments why evolution isnt real but i barely knew anything about evolution so i wondered if theres someone on /pol/ knowledgeable on evolution and wanted to know what he thinks about the video

>>136139491
No, if you don't surrender your freedom to lie, while on Earth, you don't get to Heaven because you're a degenerate. So you go to Hell.

The real reason evolution killed cuckstianity is not that it explains the origin of species.
It explains the origin of morals.

Our behaviour is better explained biologically than religiously.

There is no good and evil created by Adam's sin. There are only abstractions in stories people shared to explain their observations.

And christlarpers agree with that. Which is why they argue around practical reasons to follow christian rules rather than divine command.
Because they themselves know masturbating but standing your ground is better than being a pious man who spreads the other cheek.

>>136139511
/thread

>>136139286
>believe in atheism
That's not how it works

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>>136140532
Atheism can't be proved

>>136139286
>Give me one serious reason to believe in atheism

You are free from believing in anything

>>136139491
The price of sin is death
>>136140116
No they aren't, you are living in the afterglow of Christianity. Just one generation of atheist kids raised by single moms and the darkest corners of the internet has shown morality is anything but universal and natural - here in the west or anywhere.

>>136140596
Atheism is the default position. Religious people are the ones who are making a claim that they need to prove.

>>136140639
>>>136139491
>The price of sin is death

>implying that universal reconciliation has not already happened
k

>>136140639
lol yeah one generation and we're in the end times where people are stoning each other on college campuses over whose gonna speak that day

try again

>>136140566
are Poles actually retarded?

>>136139882
It doesn't work like that chum.

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>>136140779
Aahahaha, so thats how you atheists are proving your point ?

>>136141089
We have nothing to prove

>>136140779
>>136141145
Christlarpers are the least religious people on this board fham.
There is no point arguing with them. They know christianity is false. They just don't care

>over 5,000 years of religion
>still not a single verifiable piece of evidence in any kind of god or life after death

>>136139286
Most 'atheists' probably don't think the idea of a god or spirituality is stupid, they've just never experienced it, not through lack of wanting to.

Also the idea you need to believe in a god to have a moral compass is absurd, any religious people who say they would behave recklessly without religion aren't good people to begin with.

>>136141145
Atheism is not the default point, the existence of God is unknown threfore default position is agnosticism, not gaytheism

>>136141321
Aren't majority of japs are supposed to be buddists, shinto or some shit ?

>>136141413
people in Japan don't believe in god or the afterlife, but we still visit shrines, buy charms, and preform funeral rites because we believe in tradition.

the truly religious people, like the legit wandering monks who go around blessing places creep people out.

>>136141609
But in WW2 and shortly after they were very religious, why it have changed ?

>>136140873
nu/pol/
>>136140834
Unrepentant sin is unforgiven sin

i dont see any proof for a god so i dont really believe in one. i think believing in some sort of being that made the universe isnt too crazy, but believing in one specific religion completely is a bit retarded

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>>136141916
because they met a god

>>136142154
not an argument

you're an idiot if you think there was a moral shift within the span of a single generation among an entire generation on the basis of atheism

most atheists think it's not cool to kill someone for no real reason, and it has nothing to do with the 10 commandments.

>>136141334
>atheists have a moral compass
They objectively don't. The millionaire doesn't steal from the grocery store but he is still envious and greedy. The same for every deadly sin, you've just not had your character tested because you live in the 1st world and your cup overfloweth.

OP, you're Polish (greatest country on Earth), you certainly don't need some dirty fat yank or some disgusting mixed Euro to tell you what to believe.

but since you asked, there is no god (scientist has proved it)

>>136142636
Dawkins is not a real sciencist, he's a whore. And no, most of sciencists are agnostics, and even if im wrong we shouldn't trust everything sciencists say, because if they say to eat shit would you do it ?

>>136139286

There is only one reason, it's true.

>>136139286
>believe in atheism
Think you're a bit confused there anon.
Atheism is the idea that there is no god to believe in.
Other than being some sort of moral compass for people who don't know how to be nice, can you give me one reason to believe in god?
Le fedora

>>136140779
There is no null hypothesis about the origin of existence because we know precisely fuck all about it.

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>>136139286
You cant believe in a lack of belief you fucking retard.

>>136142424
>one generation
Your cancer has been spreading since the (((enlightenment))). But maybe you really are just triggered because you're a single-mothers abomination?

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>>136144219
I went to a Lutheran church school from preschool to 7th grade, and my parents didn't get divorced until I was 9.

>>136143529
Atheism is not just your faith but your ideology and worldview rolled up in one depressing package.

>>136139286
isnt that the father of that little slut actress from that fairy tale wizard universe liberals use to explain what is going on in the world?

>>136143968
You can tell a brainlet made that.
>>136144383
>parents divorced at 9
You are an incomplete human being.

>>136139286
You can't "believe" in atheism. Atheism is the disbelief of a higher power. There's nothing to believe in atheism.

>>136144537
also imagine being so up your own arse you dont believe in anything greater than yourself, voxday has some good hot takes on these fedora tipping poofters

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>>136144649
>incomplete
I had daddy for the formative years and he's lived a couple streets down ever since they split.

>>136139286
i dont understand whats going on so im going to make something up in order to fill in the gaps so things make sense and i can feel a sense of purpose.

>>136139286
>"Believe in Atheism"

Atheism is not a belief. It's the lack of belief.

>>136144709
It's an unnatural faith in nothing.

>>136140268
everybody lies.

including you, so... enjoy your eternal hellfire I guess.

>>136145105
nah i prefer to listen to Jordan Peterson on the topic he is an actual intellectual and an accomplished man who provides insights i cant get anywhere else and doesnt wave a liberal dildo everywhere shitting on the west your just some faggot from the "skeptic community" fuck off cunt

OP is a faggot.
there is no reason to believe in atheism, you idiot.
you are simply plain stupid for being religious.

>>136144123
>believing there is no God
>believing there is a God
Faith and belief are not the same thing Mr. Genius

>>136145472
Some jew sunk his claws deep into you huh?

>>136139286
>believe in atheism
nigga you dumb

>>136145756
no, i can just use logic and actually use my brain to think, instead of blindly believing in christianity or islamism or <insert religion here>.
faith is just an excuse. wether you like it or not.

>>136140779
wouldn't just plain 'not knowing' be the default position, rather than claiming something you don't know is true to be true?

>>136139286
if you're asking for 'reasons' you're already atheist.

Not everything which matters in life can be explained.

>>136139286
Then you can pretend to not be accountable to anyone.

>>136146000
>logic
Arogance you mean. The jew has really twisted your mind anon.

>>136145840
>>136145277
>>136144709
>>136144123

the definition
>disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
an alternative definition that means the exact same thing
>Believing there is no God
proof that atheists are as literal and retarded as theists
t. agnostic faggot

>>136146278
if you prefer to think this way instead of believe me, then i can only give zero fucks about it.
also, if mathematics = arrogance then you should kill yourself right now.
> claim to be red pilled
> religious
kek

>>136139286
Atheism is not a believe systen or crede....

Holocaustianity is the new western religion, believe you suckers.

>>136146047
Default position is a vague term.
Yeah, when people are born they don't know anything about religious dogma so they're probably not born Christians or Muslims,
but most people will believe in some form of paranormality (animism for example) if they aren't brought up otherwise.

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>>136139286
You don't have to believe in not believing in sky faries.

>>136139286
>literally zero evidence of the existance of god/gods
There.

>>136139286
It's the only logical option

>>136146418
anteism is just a lack of belief. stop pushing a false equivocation

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>>136143968
Whichever doorway to Logic is used. As long as it is used.

>>136146418
The disbelief is entirely based on faith when in the absense of definitive proof.
>>136146481
>>>/rules/pol/3

Hail Satan

>>136139508
Thinking that everything came into existence for no reason and continues to stay together with laws that were made up by nothing is a belief system.

>>136140136
>He brings up pretty convincing arguments why evolution isnt real

> barely knew anything about evolution


found the key problem senpai, theres plenty of videos debunking vapid shit like this, if you actually wanted to know something about the topic, you would already know it

>>136146860
>The disbelief is entirely based on faith when in the absense of definitive proof
are you asking to prove a negative? disbelief is the default state. proof is needed for the positive statement

>>136146898
That is not the definition of atheism.

>>136139286
I dont want to be a christcuck, have slave morality or worship a jew. Also I enjoy my lie in on a Sunday.

Sage

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>>136146860
this must be you eh

>>136145756
ya know lad im not even religious but the last 2 years i lurked and decided to pay attention has changed me,
I actually gave a couple of Jehovah witnesses the time of day when they were door knocking and dropped some red pills... maybe i will take them up on their offer to read some of their pamphlets and such, but im a bastard of a man and a degenerate though i admire and envy those close knit christian family's i doubt i would fit in
they kept a straight face when i ranted about the commie pope needing to be burned at the stake
these same faggot atheists will be the ones who will very shortly turn their limp guns on the alt right and lose hilariously
I have really grown a hatred for all things on the left and these posers i cant wait to destroy even more
woes did a good recent video on them
im sick of people shitting on my people and
Christianity and the west im sick of watching these people demonized the way my race has been for decades
what a world we live in where a mongrel person like myself is driven into such a rage at the endless attacks of the jackals that i jump to the defense of Christians......
all the ones i ever met were always nice and kept to themselves and a happy and at peace
BUT these anti sjw's and skeptic's and conglomerate of rejects are so boring and flaccid they offer nothing except nihilism and attack anything that offers something else or that threatens their income from their paypigs.....

>>136146000
>no, i can just use logic

we got a live one here boys, sounds like this monkey has enlightened himself with his own intelligence

>>136139511
>>136139599

Not a burger but I second his post. 'something magically exploding and creating universe' sounds just too fucking stupid, just accept that there must be some kind of supernatural force.

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Because there are no better alternatives

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>>136139286
magic isn't real?

>>136147356
>something magically exploding and creating universe
strawman

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>>136139286

>you are already an atheist of all the gods that came before
>just go one further like the rest of us

the best reason there is

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>>136146481

>>136147029
Atheism is an affirmitive state, the active disbelief in the existence of god.
It is a religion that worships a pantheon of 0.

Agnosticism is the default state, in the lack of evidence a person reserves judgment. Agnostics don't know if God exists or not because there is insufficient evidence either way

>>136147630
>Atheism is an affirmitive state, the active disbelief in the existence of god
wrong. it os the lack of belief

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>>136147630
>le enlightened fence sitter xD

>6 gorillion religions in the world
>durr this one's true tho
>totally not made up for retards like me

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>>136140136
>He brings up pretty convincing arguments why evolution isnt real
>but i barely knew anything about evolution

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>>136147496
the FIRST strawman, which makes it the first occurence, and therefore not a strawman due to its historical importance.

>>136147511
More proof that atheists are retarded right here.

>>136139286
You are already as atheist as far as thousands of gods are concerned. Why not believe in one less god? There's no evidence for any of them.

>>136147819
The problem with this image is that the first two things are observable on this planet. We can see that apples grow on trees, and we can see that there is no Easter bunny. However, God is an entity that supposedly exists outside our universe, so we have absolutely no way of confirming the existence or non-existence of God.

>>136139286

None of the gods have come out of hiding. Religions are retarded.

>>136139927
That's simply false. Many of the Nazis had Polish blood. Why would they want to exterminate people they were related to? If it doesn't make sense, it's probably not true.

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>>136139286
Give me one serious reason to believe in god


oh right

Because every religion there is lacks the same damn thing lack of actual evidence

>>136147714
It actually isn't.
A rock would have a lack of belief because a rock has no cognition.
An atheist has disbelief because he judges some or all elements of the belief in a god false.

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>>136148153
how so anon?
>>136147511
>>you are already an atheist of all the gods that came before
>>just go one further like the rest of us
whats wrong with this logic?

>>136139286
atheism gives you as a life goal the idea that you should enjoy your mortal life as much as you can, not try to score points for a supposed afterlife. So at the end of the day atheism promotes enjoying yourself. Which is a good reason to "believe" in it.

>>136148377
paganism nigger. god is out there but you atheist hide your eyes

>>136146898
No it isn't it's a theory
It's also reality, nobody has proof that even the big bang happened since we weren't fucking there, there also isn't any evidence that what we inhabitants was created by an entity.
You just assume we were, that's called religion and you have zero proof for any of it

>>136148553
do it because everyone else is doing it
Fucking retard logic.
You have zero ability to think for yourself and you call your retarded statement the best reason to think the way you do.
You're a fucking retard.
Quit pretending to have any level of intellect.

>>136148395
>American education

>>136143968
From the start then.
>Evolusjon exist
wow im convinced allreaddy.
Sadly though i can tell he went a little fast here and witheld some thought.

Define exist and then define evil.
Existence is about being real, its effects being measurable.
Evil is a concept that only exists on paper as god exists in the bible.
Evil has to do with morality, morality that is shaped by thousands of years of pagan and christian religion.
You can totally do a moral deed without being religious, but to follow everything society sees as moral is to be a good Christian.

>>136147029
It's not the default state as anyone who isnt a child knows. To maintain a strong faith in atheism takes a significant toll on your mental health.
>>136147207
Lurk the /christian/ general threads
>>136147356
In the 1960's (and prior) it was a commonly held Atheist opinion that "creation" of any sort was a religious idea. This was before the cosmic background radiation substantiated the big bang creation theory. This essentially proved Genesis 1 and BTFO atheists who widely believed it was the universe that was infinite and had no beginning. They of coursed flopped and embraced it and pretended it was their idea all along.

>>136147983
>He doesn't know that religion is a social thing

Name a single empire or successful country that was or is majority atheist. I'll wait.

>>136139327
/thread/
Agreed, you're a fool if you do.
Put your faith in Christ!

>>136148601
>So at the end of the day atheism promotes enjoying yourself. Which is a good reason to "believe" in it.
also inspires people to improve their and others lot in life. also justice improves. not thinking a god will punish in the afterlife gets communities to distribute justice more swiftly

>>136148784
wait. so you do believe in every religion, every god at the same time?!?

>>136148508
wrong. it is the lack of belief

>>136147630
>in the lack of evidence a person reserves judgment
No only faggots with faith believe in agnosticism
The fldefsult state I'd THAT there is nothing, we have been presented with nothing, and that nobody can prove anything.
The moment you try and believe anything I'd the moment you switch off the default setting and try to prescribe human ideals to an existence which we are very VERY insignificant to

>>136148972
Where the fuck did I say that?
Just because a thing doesn't exist doesn't mean nothing similar to it exists.
Are you retarded, a child, or drug addled?

>>136148784

>implying thats the argument
>i just read what i want to read, so make sure you don't put any unecessary "like the rest of us" because then i will misunderstand and assume its an argument about popularity rather then what is truth about "how do you distinguish between zeus is not real, and jaweh/allah/god is real?

fucking idiots, this isn't like the bible where you can interprate what you want out of the text, il actually clarify in case you are too stupid to get it

>>136148078
>historical fallacy to validate a strawman
how deep does this fallacy rabbit hole go?

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>>136139286
you can wear buttplugs and watch your wife sex Jamal without feeling bad

>>136148202
Until good proves he exists he does not, it's quite simple
And if one did exist there's no way in fuck he wouldn't have presented himself recently and told everyone to stop acting like niggers, any being that could possibly ever exist on other plains would have lost their mind seeing what we have become

>>136147356
>Science says you can't get something from nothing
>But the big bang created everything
>If the big bang created everything then something had to be around to create the big bang which means it didn't create everything otherwise it means you can get something from nothing which is proven by the big bang having created everything
>Either way the science is wrong in one of these situations

I like it when science says they "like to be questioned", but if you do question them they chimp out.

>>136148989
It is a belief there is no God.

It is foolish and irresponsible.

>>136139286
>(((Jesus)))
>(((Muhamed))))
There, I gave you 2 (two) reasons.

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>>136146655
That's fucking based

>>136149236
>It is a belief there is no God
wrong. it is the lack of belief

>>136149187
that's a lot of projection there Emile

>>136149086
calm down honey.
so, why dont you believe in say, Zeus?

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>>136148784

i made it easier for you, please tell me about your understanding of logic>>136149136

>>136149292
No it isn't we were not a nation under God until the 50's
In God we trust didn't exist on currency until 1956
Go eat a dick

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>>136149340
>no u
ok buddy

>>136149332
You keep saying that because you don't want any burden of proof on your shoulders.

Because you know that you cannot prove there is no God.

In fact, your search for God has not only been confined to this planet, but likely to within 100 miles of where you were born.

In short, because you're an idiot, you want to pretend that there is no God so that you are not ultimately responsible for what you do with the life you were given.

And because you are a fool, and think your beliefs have an effect on the existence of God.

>>136149406
jokes on them. low IQ niggers 100% believe in the supernatural

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Is he right?

>>136139286
>>136144734
Imagine being so narcissistic that you think preexisting immortal entities with infinite reality bending powers would care about your limited perception of 1 coordinate for no length of time.

>>136139286
One doesn't believe in a negative. One understands the positive claims haven't met their burden of proofs.

>>136149532
>You keep saying that because you don't want any burden of proof on your shoulders
>prove a negative
nigga you dumb

>>136149461
>Having a debate in theology
>You bring up niggers and being cuckd
Literally the definition of projection

>>136149406
>My wife and I are white a t h e i s t s. Here's why...

Seems legit.

>>136139286
kids at recess might think you're cool for about a day or two

>>136149355
think he gave up, he won't anwser>>136149441

>>136149503
>Posts garbage click bait
>Ignores all the just as substantial if not larger amount if christcucks doing the exact same thing

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>>136149457
Oh yeah right anglicans and protestants...

I don't judge it but chiristianity worked very well in uniting Europe

>>136149406
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/723106487271301120?lang=en

>>136139327

fpbp

>>136139286
My yard will be bigger in heaven

>>136149719
>Jews take to an uncornered new market like flies to shit
>Atheism is Jewish!
Your entire religion was created by Jews, you will never be able to deny this

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>>136149747
thats why i can't help but jump in every one of these treads. kids(i hope) think they're going to school us and end up having their world turned upside down.

>>136149756
>Worked well in uniting Europe
So uniting means slaughtering and forcefully converting anyone that doesn't want to believe in a desert Jew religion?
Hang yourself

>>136139286
No reason.

Before you go full Christianity, be aware that blood matters more than religion.

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>>136149896
>retards fall for genetic fallacy
Maybe you should stop using writting since it wasn't created by atheists?

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>>136149636
gee, it's not as though certain religions have rules against adultery and other sexual deviancy, while atheism is completely accepting of it

>>136139286
I am just a god ahead of you.

>>136139286
>reason to believe in atheism
Theists commonly make these kinds of confused mistakes. Atheism is not anything that requires belief. Just by merely not believing in any made-up gods, you are an atheist.

>>136147496

It's not a strawman, strawman implies the other side could use the same argument, but in this case atheists can't argue that 'something must've created God' since Christians already acknowledge God's omnipotence.

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>>136150055
>blood matters more than religion
>commie flag
Like a clockwork.

>>136150055
I would rather be friends with Ben Carson than Dylan Roof, there are plenty of retarded whites and smart blacks, you dumb commie

>>136148972
>>136148198
>your disbelief in all the other gods
A monotheistic god that was the "first cause" is Self-Evident, faith is my belief in Christ and the Father and the Holy Spirit as one Godhead.

>>136150085
The English language was created by germanics who were not christcucks, but your ignorance of history was pretty apparent already
>>136150135
>You need rules in order to know things are wrong
Nice fallacy you got there

>>136149616
There's an entire field of logic dedicated to proving negatives. Your statement "you cannot prove a negative" is a negative statement, and unless YOU can prove it, it's false.

And if YOU can prove it, it is just another example of being able to prove a negative.

>>136139511
>>136147356
Theists can't argue against non-belief, so they fabricate these hysterical strawmen. Science has nothing to do with non-belief.

>>136139286
>atheism
>giving you anything of value

it belongs in the trashcan.

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>>136139286
>believe in atheism

Atheism isn't a substantial view. "Believing" in atheism makes no sense.

>>136150160
>being this confused about what makes a worldview

>>136148643

Prove it. Post a photograph of your god, asshole.

>>136150402
There's no need to argue with fools. You just smile, and nod, and move on with your life. They'll either figure out they're fools, or they won't.

>>136149532
Most atheists do worship a god, themselves.

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>>136150335
lets pretend im not in your cult. how would you word your post then?

>>136150025
>So uniting means slaughtering and forcefully converting anyone that doesn't want to believe in a desert Jew religion?

The dude that chose God and by extent catholicism, was a Pagan himself and just make god as the "upper god". And he didn't need religion as an excuse for conquest that's just something we Germanics enjoy.

Also are you implying that you need religion to justifiy wars? How very Jewish of you.

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>>136150458
Post her again, athicuck and i'll breake your fucking fingers faggot.

>>136147630
>the active disbelief in the existence of god.
Isn't that anti-theism?

If you ask any theist about the existence of deities like Ra, Jupiter, Odin, Zeus and other gods, they'll tell you that those gods aren't real. Which is the same anti-theism that they intolerate when it comes to their gods.

>>136139286
None, it's as unscientific as any other religion

>>136150581
Yup. Billions of shitty little gods running around forgiving themselves of all sorts of heinous acts.

>>136150582

Does a painting infer a painter?

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>>136150581
>Most atheists do worship a god, themselves.
is that what the guy holding the collection plate tells you?

>>136150335

>a cause is self evident
>cant be the first monoteistic god "atem" But is some nock-off of some jewish god that i arbetrary picked and follow their customs instead of the first idea of such first-cause god

Either way you have to explain you Shitty choice in god , no amount of pragmatisme or philosophy can save your religion, they arent compatable

I love when christians think they have a monopoly in arguments that validate other gods and show how illogical they actually are in choosing (read:being born into) their religion

>>136150690
Patently untrue.

Demon, Nimrod, Nimrod, Adam.

All real.

>>136150344
How do you know what is wrong then?

>>136150780
Nobody else ever was born of a virgin, lived a sinless life, performed wonders and miracles only God could do, died and came back to life on the third day to ascend bodily into heaven.

Only Jesus.

>>136139286
Give me one reason to believe in a fucking sky wizard who watches all of our moves and keeps a ledger.

>>136149719
>>136149896
Atheist = Jew = Denier of Christ

Your worldview and ideology are indifferentiable from the Jew, ipso facto you ARE a Jew. You even quote the Talmud.

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>>136148902
Yes Goyim, please believe in that magical Jew on a stick. Don't forget to adopt black babies with your white wife. That's a good Goyim.

>>136150885
Horus was born of a virgin, he saved egypt , was a great guy,

>i know nothing of other religions therfor i "choose" mine argument wew

>all this atheist faggots in this thread talk shit but if you confronted them on the street they would piss their pants and run away

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>>136150746
>Does a painting infer a painter?
yes.go on

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>>136151052
MUH SKIN

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>>136150599
You're confused. I'm a Christian and wasn't defending atheism at all in >>136150458

I was saying that atheism isn't a substantial view so "believing in atheism" is vague nonsense. Further, the criticism that you believe in "one less God" is stupid and also nonsensical.

Mainstream anti-theists are next to Evangelicals in complete ignorance and stupidity.

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>>136151174
A FUCKING LEAF

>>136139286
Belive what you want to belive in.
Thats my opinion on the matter, i have mine and you have yours.
I may not respect it but ill die to defend the right to have it

>>136139286
Start by being skeptical. Atheism is the opposite of feeling and believing.

>>136149719
Prove anyone on that pic besides Lauren Southern and Milo are jews.

>>136151202
Actually, anti-theists generally are next to Evangelicals in complete ignorance and stupidity.

>>136139286
Everywhere you look either new world where christians whent or Midle east or East asia every part of world makes up their own rellgions when they are isolated why haven't we ever seen specific god apearing in diferant parts of world?Why incas worshiped other gods for thousands of years why didn't christian god say them about true fate?Why didn't he say about allah if allah is real?We people like to imagine that there is something greater then we it makes us feel safe.And look bout muslims and christians say that if you don't beleave in their relligions you shall die so thousands of incas will die becouse non one told them about nor christianity nor islam how dies that make any sence?What kind of god would do that?There is no god.

>>136150780
>>136150335
None the less, a monotheistic god is self-evident. I choose through faith to believe in Christ based upon the testimony presented in the Bible along with secular roman accounts and the prosperity blessed upon only the nations that have followed and served God. The recent atheistic swing followed by immediate detriment only makes this plain to anyone who isnt blinded by pride.

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>>136151474
I don't know that Sargon's Jewish per se, but that he likes black on white gay gangbang cuck porn enough to save images of it onto his hard drive to post on twitter

>>136148508
>An atheist has disbelief because he judges some or all elements of the belief in a god false.
First, the stories of the gods are told to us when we are little and have no critical thinking skills. As we become adults, we examine our thoughts and realize how ridiculous these tall tales were.

>the belief in a god false.
Second, if the elements of "a god false" are so ridiculous that any reasonable person would reject them, then perhaps the onus is on theists to craft more believable gods.

>>136151084

Its just the clockmaker argument

Unfalsifiable , thats why i find it easier to attack their choice in religion. Because all religions can make that argument so one has to explain why one choose this spesific one

>>136141344
The default position is the non-existence of everything. The ones claiming that something exists are the ones who need to prove it..

>>136150780
>Implying that only Christianity has a supreme godhead as the Creator of all things
Hinduism has a Godhead in the form of The One
Buddhism has a Godhead in the form of the Karma
Various forms of paganism make mention to some sort of formless matter from which all was spawned (Kaos in Greek Mythology, for example)
Native Americans refer to the Godhead as the Great Spirit or The First, one of the reason they were so well integrated in Christianity later on.
Amenominakanushi or the All-Father was God for the Japanese people, the very first kami and source of the universe
Only Judaism and Islam, for some reason, make that Godhead to be somewhat tangible and not a completely abstract ensemble of divine essences. It is one of the reason why i consider them the ilk of Satan; they are obsessed with a physical, materialistic and perfectly indivisible God that marked them as chosen and as their servants.

>>136151742
paultown really got under his skin

>>136151714

Meh "i choose Because of my"prefrence"[upbringing]"

Well prefrence in atheism is as good then
Great argument dude

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>>136148202
>We can see that apples grow on trees, and we can see that there is no Easter bunny
saying that a thing doesnt exist because it wasnt seen is a fallacy, even when its easter bunny

>>136151063
Horus was a mythological character that emerged from a rock, not "born of a virgin woman". Zeitgeist pls go

>>136139286
https://www.youtube.com/user/InspiringPhilosophy

https://www.youtube.com/user/AominOrg

https://www.youtube.com/user/DrOakley1689

Good channels, hopefully they help people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97k4z6Qe7JM&t=18s[Embed]

A true Gospel presentation. Hopefully those who haven't heard watch, and those who have can share this.

>>136151084

Does coding infer a coder?

>>136151202
>I'm a Christian

Lying sack of papist shit.

God told you to.

>>136151626
Yes, papist, that hatred for Christians will ensure your eternal destruction. Good, good.

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>>136150599
>quoting a Jack Chick comic in the form of a smuggie
How embarrassing

>>136151920
i couldnt imagine how frustrating it would be to be negged at by that autistic cunt day in day out for weeks on end, i miss the election there were so many more of those guys to bookmark and lurk they would drive pundits and e-clebs insane then retweet their melt downs and take screen shots.... im having a giggle fit

>>136151965
Is that some hate symbol that should be reported to the ADL immediately I see there?

>>136151626
It boggles my mind how obvious your atheism is to anybody listening.
John 17:20-23
1 John 4 :8
I really do pray for your salvation.

>>136150335
>A monotheistic god that was the "first cause" is Self-Evident
That may be the case in your religion, but the book of the Christians and Jews starts out with Elohim (the pantheon of gods) creating everything,

>>136139286
This is a weird question since if you can bring yourself to believe in religion you can believe in everything because you crossed the border of reason.

>>136152180
What's wrong with Jack Chick, faggot?

>>136152261
>I really do pray for your salvation.

Then you're a better man than I. I used to think he was misguided or mistaught. But now that the pure evil is leaking out of him, I would have to say that he is going full reprobate/apostate and is beyond salvation by searing his own conscience.

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>>136152062

>what are multible creation myths
Even the bible has plenty of diffrences

If you are going to be religious atleast explain why , the reasons given are as lacking as that for anything , so its just prefrence or even worse upbringing . With no critical choice

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>>136139286
>believe in atheism
>believe
>atheism
>>>/b/
>>>/trash/

>>136141242
you really think people here dont actually believe and are here just to bullshit you?

Why can't People understand that religion is the best way to give your population manners and decency.

The implacations of divine right helps everyone and if you think you are better of in a mainly atheïst society you're fucking mad

>>136152314
Fundie that believed rock music is made by the devil.
Also, he deliberately lied to further his agenda.
Saged, btw

>>136152723
>he deliberately lied to further his agenda
Fucking lies. And yes, rock is satanic.

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Atheism is a deconstruction of society's morals like marriage, chastity, a prudent life and non-degeneracy.
Literally every anti-Christian group is leftist, Marxist or promotes the normalization of morbidity or obscenity.
Even modern art and modern architecture are mockery of Christian traditional art and architecture.

>>136141916
it changed because the great dupe the emperor ever pulled was that he was a god. they worshiped him as a god. They should adopt Christianity. those fucks need Jesus.

>>136150802
>Patently untrue.
So you believe in Ra, Jupiter, Odin, Zeus and all the other gods?

>>136139286
You shouldn't. Just as you shouldn't be stupid enough to blindly follow one of the hundreds of man-made childrens fairy tales spun by charlatans dangling a coin purse.

The enlightened man - simply put, does not know, and does not pretend to know.

>>136150885
>Nobody else ever was born of a virgin,
Parthenogenesis is possible in human beings, but it seems unlikely that the Bronze Age Middle East would experience so many of them.

>>136151961
You didnt make a rebuttal here btw, try using your words.
>>136152275
Self-evident is an obvious state to any observer.
>>136152380
>Wolfshiem
1 John 4:8 says he that loveth not, knoweth not God. This applies as much to Atheists like Wolfshiem as me and you. Tell them until you are blue in the face why they are wrong, but when you give in to hatred youve lost.

>>136152424
I've never met a real Christian who was a practicing homosexual.

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>>136152424
Because faggots don't roleplay as the groups they hate as mockery.

>>136152467
The bible does not, actually.

I'm not "religious", because religion, from religio, is a "system of bondage".

I simply believe the truth, with all my heart. Jesus really is God, and Jesus really did pay the sin debt of humanity and rise from the dead.

>>136143469
>I believe with all my heart that God isnt real without any solid evidence whatsoever.
that my fedora friend is called faith.

>>136152723
Yeah, there's nothing satanic in heavy metal at all.

kek

>>136151030
>Atheist = Jew
Wow, you really are retarded.

>= Denier of Christ
So is 3/4 of worlds population and shrinking.

>>136152956
Maybe you missed the inference.

Ra = Demon
Jupiter = Nimrod
Odin = Nimrod
Zeus = Adam

All the other "gods" are things God made, or things that the things God made invented.

Kek is the greatest god! He will punish the jewish evil god of the bible with magic!

>>136153122
Just one, and a male offspring, which is not the usual for parthenogenesis of any creature.

>>136152424
If they are repentant sinners fine, but embracing sin and wearing it as a badge of honor - in the face of Romans 1 just means they arent Christian.

>>136153133
And further down the same chapter....

1 John 4:20 Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.

Bitches go crazy for an enlightenment Atheist. They know how to dress well, always sporting the best hats. Women can feel the Euphoria emanating in waves from this superior mind.

>>136151202
>Further, the criticism that you believe in "one less God" is stupid
But technically correct, right? It makes perfect sense despite your unwillingness to accept it.

>and also nonsensical.
Belief in any gods is nonsensical.

>>136153456
Yes, women are as broken and depraved as men are.

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>>136152261
My view in >>136151202 was that atheism means "not theism" and there are several forms of atheistic views in the same sense that there are several forms of theistic views. As such just saying "believing in atheism" doesn't clarify what worldview you mean whatsoever and so says next to nothing.

Further, the claiming of an atheist just being one who believes in "one god less" is complete nonsense as believing in more gods (in whatever form) doesn't make you more of a theist. It's simply ignoring all of the worldview and trying boil down to a god count. As if a nihilist were just someone who "believes in a few less objective morals than you" and objective morality weren't a completing worldview altogether.

>John 17
>1 John 4:8

Pic related. Love is not kindness to one another but the willing of the good of the other without self-interest. That is how "tough love" is possible, which is needed when people so arrogantly speak of one another or you want to dissuade people from various ideologies (in this case Evangelicalism and anti-theism). However, you are right that I'm being condemning without giving options. The intent was to make a point while spurring discourse. I should not have done that and I apologize. However, your comment I find very overexaggerated.

>>136153524
>Mainstream anti-theists are next to Evangelicals in complete ignorance and stupidity.

>>136151428
>Atheism is the opposite of feeling and believing.
Atheists can feel and believe. When it comes to what they know (epistemology), then they eschew emotion and other irrationality.

>>136153133

Philosophical arguments don't prove spesific religions , the choice in religion is just a prefrence next to the argument then

If you believe in spesific attributes of your god that isnt within the context of your argument you are essentialy just making a value statement rather then an observation

So why did you choose the spesific religion you believe in? Seems like the most illogical think about religious people

Philosophical arguments like the clockmaker work as well for the muslims as they do for the Christians or egyptian monoteists
The reason is simple , philosophy isnt compatable with a spesific dogma
So you can make it fit all , but thats hardly a victory

>>136153669
Because Jesus really is God, and He really did rise from the dead.

Not sure what part of that is eluding you.

>>136139286
>atheism
>ism
>belief

Are you serious?

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>>136153462
>But technically correct, right? It makes perfect sense despite your unwillingness to accept it.

see my elaborated criticism here >>136153524

Second paragraph.

>>136153612
Yes. They very much tend to be, and the ideologies are a threat to the welfare community.

>>136153740
Yes, that's a very loving statement to make.

That born again Christians are as ignorant as people who hate God.

>>136153208

Ugh feelings, join the sjw and the facists then , they love such argumentation
And yes the bible has , just Google it
>not knowing about ones own religions diffrences

>>136153813
If someone can argue you into heaven, someone else can argue you out.

If you cannot believe the truth, then God has no use for you.

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>>136139286
Pascal's Wager.

If no god exists, then it doesn't matter what you believe.

But suppose a god exists. Most religions we have contradict each other and have exclusivity clauses. To them, picking the wrong god is more sinful than picking no god at all. The heretic is going to suffer a lot more in hell than the atheist.

There are a lot of potential gods, and no way to be sure you're worshipping the proper one until it's too late. Atheism is the safest choice.

Carl Sagan

>>136153925
Atheism is forfeiting the game altogether, and accepting the loss.

It is the worst of all possible decisions.

>>136139421
I think all turks should be gassed.

>>136150384
>prove a negative
nigga you dumb

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>>136153807
Ignorance manifests in various forms.

>>136153869
I woke up an hour ago and doing this while chilling at breakfast. Give me a break.

>>136153994
Yes, it's quite easily done.

"No camera can record its own creation."

>>136153249
You are uniquely jewish though, it seems that i'm right.
>>136153416
Just help them see. If you claim to me you love Christ as I do you are my brother and I wont focus on our differences, i'll try to believe the best i can of you. But wolfsiem just spews hatred for Christians inbetween copypasta.

>>136154021
You still don't see it, even when it is shoved into your face.

Your murderous hatred of Christians stems from your papist brainwashing. You hate Christians as much as you hate people who hate God.

And even when you're shown, in the bible, where that is PROOF that you do not belong to God, you STILL don't get it.

>>136139421
holy shit i watched a few minutes of this and could feel my IQ dropping.

>>136154073
Exactly right. The love I have for you and all other Christian posters stems not from me, but from the Spirit Who is in each of us.

The Spirit most if not all Catholics have never met, and never experienced.

>>136153945
jew

>>136153249
>being this dumb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_atheism

>>136153903

Religion want you to accept truth , like any other ideology , philosophy want you to question it
Just a shame most christians think their arguments work to prove anything spesific when its just "some god exist" and feelings , and worse of all upbringing like with the nazi youth or the socialists youth

>>136154430
You're quite mistaken.

"I am The Way, The Truth, and The Life; no man comes to the Father but by Me."

--Jesus of Nazareth

By accepting Jesus, you accept the truth. Not by what I say, but by Who He is.

>>136153973
Atheism is realising the lottery is a tax on stupidity and using that money for other things

>>136139286
You can touch your wee wee all you want

>>136154541

"The in examend life is not Worth living" - socrates

>>136153524
You are so clearly full of hate. Pretending its willing good is laughable when i've never once seen you answer questions of the curious. You just like shoveling shit, spreading discontent and malevolence among the faithful, and pointing a finger at the saved in hatred like only a jew would. These are the sins of pride.

>>136154656
Unexamend* /phone

>>136152851
>Atheism is a deconstruction of society's morals like marriage, chastity, a prudent life and non-degeneracy.
False on every count. Men make all morals.

Then evil men invent gods to exploit fear in people and force them to follow their morals.

Traditional marriage for the last 2000 years in the Abrahamic religions has been sexual slavery, bride price, child rape, arranged and political marriages and polygamy.

Only in the last several hundred years, since the Age of Enlightenment and the rise of secular democracy have marriages been truly voluntary between a man and a woman.

The state of a woman's vagina can not determine her worth. It is a man's penis that make her "impure", so obviously the man's crusty dick is what's so nasty.

>>136154571
Atheism is betting your eternal soul that there is not a God who cares about such things.

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>>136154142
>Your murderous hatred of Christians

This isn't true at all and you have not given any evidence to prove such an outrageous claim.


>You hate Christians as much as you hate people who hate God.

I don't hate any of them. I highly distrust those two ideological groups as I find them very ignorant and stupid.

>>136154736
English isn't your first language is it bud?

>>136154656
Is the examined life automatically worth living?

>>136139286
Can anyone give me quick rundown on Hillsong church?

>>136154870
I just did, actually. As a born again evangelical Christian, I can literally feel the hatred you have for people like me. You want us all murdered because we dare question your authority structure and the false claims it makes to be the "one true church".

You've been duped, son.

>>136154882
Phone

>>136154933
No, but thats also the reason people love religion , easy anwsers little effort

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>>136154669
>Pretending its willing good is laughable when i've never once seen you answer questions of the curious.

You what.
I've done that for YEARS on this board on Catholic Generals. Mainly through its largest time between 2014-2015. What in the world are you talking about?

You generalize Christians are the faithful when they deny much of grace, or God, and His church. It is important to work towards bringing people into greater communion.

>>136154973
Part of the emergent one world church that aims to bring all people of all faiths together into one religion.

>>136153143
>I've never met a real Christian who was a practicing homosexual.
So you 'practice' with a lot of homosexuals, but not one of them meets your definition of a "real Christian"?

Wait... wait.. if god created us, the world and the universe..

Does that mean we live in a super advanced computer program running on "god"'s desktop pc?

Those specs on his pc must be infinity insane high.

>>136155089
I don't know how a man can examine his own life and not have the answers to the following, and be okay with that:

ORIGIN
MEANING
PURPOSE
MORALITY
DESTINY

I would say Christians as a whole have far more examined lives than you have been led to believe.

>>136155114
That's all you care about. Your church.

The whore of Babylon.

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>>136139511
>first there was nothing then boom science created everything
>just have faith :^)
first there was nothing then boom God created everything

>>136155141
In my experience, homosexuals have denied God far prior to their decision to be sexual deviants.

>>136155138
I just want a qtgf

>>136155040
>I just did, actually
>Argument is: I can literally feel it
>and so the argument is right

Use reason, Anon. It is how you make rational points.

>>136155145
Like 1 part in 10^120 high, yes. And that's just for the cosmological constant. There are many other critical variables that contribute to the possibility of life in this universe.

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>>136155324
Seek ye first the Kingdom of God, and His righteousness, and all these things will be added unto you.

>>136153524
>As if a nihilist were just someone who "believes in a few less objective morals than you" and objective morality weren't a completing worldview altogether.
There are no such things as "objective morals".

All morals are made by men, making all morals relative and subjective. Some men might pretend gods made their morals, but that just means they're delusional. It does not mean their morals are objective.

>>136155367
Hatred towards Christians from your posts is palpable, yes. And since I have spiritual discernment that you lack, as does the other Christian Anon posting towards you, you lay bare before us as a demon worshiping (Mary) idolatrous pagan.

>>136144398
Not believing in something is faith and an ideology.
Murrcun eschewcasion.
It's really not depressing to know your life isn't governed by some sort of powerful sorcerer either

>>136155507
Without God, there is no objective basis for morality, and if morality is as you say it is, it's just people's opinions and they differ.