Why aren't you stockpiling silver for the coming collapse.

I'm just gonna wait for the collapse and then take your silver.

>>135869324

You'll have to get past my gun first.

>>135869324
With a tea spoon?

>>135869324

/thread

>>135869195
Because I have no idea where to get silver without paying out of the ass on top of its actual value.

Otherwise I might buy some for a couple hundred.

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>>135869324
Fpbp

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Cryptos are superior, although I do have about 100 ounces of silver and a bit of gold. Can never rely on one thing only.

also fuck off boomer

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What happened in 1980?

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>>135869324
With what?

Stockpile Cigarettes (Addicts will want em bad and they become a expensive luxury) Very easy to store and unlike gold when someone has no change you can afford to lose a few packs.

Teabags/Leaves (Good comfort food, staple of Britain) Very easy to store 10k teabags and already in easily traded quantities
Coffee is the same.

Ligher fluid, and other comforts that are easy to store.

>>135871219
Well I mean, anyone who buys silver/gold but not also other things like ammunition, booze, tobacco and so on hasn't understood the purpose of buying silver/gold in the first place.

>>135870496
kek

>>135871219
Tobacco farm owner here. I don't actually work, my family owns land thats rented out to grow the poison.
1. It has a huge volume per value.
2. You need to store it in specific conditions, so storage (ventilation, humidity, just the plain area) is expensive per value.
3. Nobody is going to buy your shady ciggs, the market will still offer official brand tobacco, it will just cost more. There won't be a total apocalypse collapse, it will just be bad economy and the plebs rioting. Our system is too complex to break down completely.

The way I prepare for the "collapse" is by getting fat and going to parties to meet people. Cheers.

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>>135869195
>stockpiling the metal jew

>>135869324
Who the fuck even talked about a collapse? Silver is undervalued and its price will soar, it doesn't take a genius to recognize it's a good investment no matter what happens.

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>>135869195

I have a little over 40 ounces.

Just a little.

PM only make sense as insurance not as an investment. They cost you money.

fuck silver i grow food, the real gusaline is water

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How about fluorite?

>>135869195
because i stockpile seeds and ammunition ;)

>>135869794
If you're in the US I can tell you what to do.

>>135873533
Sadly I'm not. I'm from Germanistan.

>>135873626
Look to other asset classes, then. Plenty of other things for the upcoming collapse, especially if you're in a locality where people are unlikely to have or know about silver.

these scammers want you to buy silver so they can dump theirs and make money.

In a financial collapse, food, weapons, and vehicles are going to be worth many times more than gold or silver.

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>>135869195

>not stockpiling on the real essentials like ammunition and toilet paper

>>135873808
>toilet paper
The "value density" (is there a word for that?) is so low that it would hardly be worth the effort.

>>135873327
No, that's worthless. Try collecting natural specimens and not cut objects.

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Just don't worry about it.

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>>135873327
Here's a good fluorite that's actually worth something

I lost so much money buying silver and gold it's pathetic, don't waste you money faggot

>>135874010
>shitposting on a cintiq
Peak decadence.

Because Iron is better you can use it as a weapon.

>>135869324

Wont even need a gun to overwhelm u then starved out nigger then

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>>135869324
With what, a pointed stick.

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>>135873533
I am an would like to know more

>>135869195
>not stocking copper
plebe

you need like several machine guns and a homestead and thats really all you need

>>135874225
How much are you looking to spend, roughly?

>>135874225
>>135873533
Desire to know more also intensifies with me as well.

>>135869195
You cant eat silver. Food, water, medicine, weapons is the way to go.

>>135869195
I'm poor now I'll be poor tomorrow. I'drather spend my spare cash on guns and bullets. They're equally good investment for when shit hits the fan around spics and nigs.

one needs to stockpile goods, such as eggs(chickens) meat(rabbits, cow, buffalo,chicken) vegtables, fruit trees and a well
shit such a sugar in salt is worth more than gold

>>135873626
Direkt bei der bank kannst barren kaufen.
Preis : google preis silber.
Grosse barren, günstiger als kleine wg mengenrabatt quasi.

>>135874558
ahmed confirmed

>>135874409
First of all, if you don't know what you're doing, don't do anything rash. Look up what "DCA" means -- Dollar Cost Averaging. So first thing to do is figure you've got probably 3 months or so where prices are likely to remain in what the call the Summer Doldrums, and probably before any big market moving and shaking happens.

Forget about September memes. Never try to time the market. But we are entering a time of increasing uncertainty with a correction overdue. So if you think silver is a good play then you want to start making a move sooner than later.

>>135874317
I got like three dollerinos and some gum.

dude who owns oil tanks will get all the pussy in the land

>>135869195
I go thriftshop hunting for precious metals that they don't know about. I just the other day found 700 dollars worth of silverware in set for 30 bucks

>>135874741
this only works if you go to shit nowhere usa. if you live in an established area shits taken

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>>135869368
Oi yew got a pehmit fer 'at?

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>>135869324
KEK

>>135869195
I buy steal BITCH

>>135874416
U also cant eat money, so pls gib it to me, its worthless ....

>>135874655
Silver probably isn't for you, then.

But what you could do if you want is put a couple of dollerinos each week or few into a pool account, such as at kitco, or whatever. This will track the spot price of silver, and it will be easy to sell off if you need to buy a spare tire or whatever.

Then, when you have, say, some hundreds or thousands of dollerinos, you can buy physical silver. It only makes sense to buy in larger quantities because you have to pay for shipping and insurance and all that. What you'd probably want to do in that case is stick to 1oz silver coins, eagles or maple leaves, ignore dates, ignore condition. Alternatively what they call "junk" silver which means 90% pre-1966 nickels, dimes, quarters, and halves, again ignoring date and condition -- these come by the sack, so that's where you'd dump a at least a few hundred in rather than buy 13 1oz coins or whatever.

>>135869195
In UK we pay taxes on silver. It's bullshit

>>135874190
No, those have probably been banned by now too.

PM's are terrible investments, let alone as usable currency during mastuurbatory SHTF scenarios.

Buy body armor and guns if you're that sure society will collapse.

>>135874793
just plan a route through your area for your various secondhand/thrift stores. They have elementary school dropouts pricing stuff so it's kind like stealing.

>>135874629
>Dollar Cost Averaging

That's the cost average effect, isn't it?
That one is rather questionable and mostly just a trick used by advisers to get you to put more money into their offers. People are less willing to throw a couple grand at something than to regularly invest a couple hundred, especially if you tell them stuff like the cost average effect.
If you actually do the numbers on that one there's hardly any proof for it being a better investment strategy, especially when you consider that a large initial investment also has more time to accrue profits than lots of smaller ones that are spaced out.

>>135871511
I am not talking about growing your own tobacco, I am talking about buying some packs of cigarettes or loot them from a local store if things get bad.

Although I doubt anything will ever happen that is that bad

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>>135871511
>There won't be a total apocalypse collapse.

What the public does not know, and has yet to be announced, is that there is an interloper in our solar system. This Jupiter sized traveling planet is the sole cause for global warming / climate change. NASA, in it's infinite wisdom, has decided to keep this information from the public to avoid panic. It's only a matter of time before people realize the significance of this cyclical astronomical event and what it means to everyone living in our planet.

>>135875060
It's a way to keep yourself sane because otherwise if you're new you try to outsmart professional traders and you're not likely to win that gamble.

You might not get it really right, but you're not going to go really wrong.

>>135871972
I am old and have been hearing this for over 20 years.

protip: SIlver is a horrible fucking investment. The only way to get rich with it is to stockpile a huge amount and get other idiots to buy it above spot.

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>>135869195
I've invested in silver because it's actually going to make me money in the long run. In a SHTF situation, it'll be useless. This is why I focus more on being prepared to take my rifle and a backpack full of food and supplies and run into the mountains. It's not like you can eat silver and it'll only weigh you down, making you a slow and easy target in a lawless environment.

>>135874837
>I buy steal BITCH

>that flag
>that typo
Checks out.

>>135869195
I have a lot of silver quarters not an unreasonable amount but I was wondering if anyone has a good way to store them, I just them in a leather bag (most of them) that they've been in since the 90'.

>>135875132
Oh, yeah, it definitely works at a psychological tool. Because then people can just tell themselves that their investment being at -8% right now isn't so bad because at least it means they will get a bigger amount of shares for their next transaction.

But there's hardly any financial advantage to it.

>>1358750
yep i agree but you wont find silver as much as just cool shit

>>135869794
APMEX
SDbullion
You want to find low over spot prices.
Those are two that are no nonsense

>>135875120
I know this is a shitpost from a mentally ill retard, but just wanted to remind people that Jupiter is as big as you can get before you start fusing hydrogen and become a start. It is a rare occurrence, and having two so close is about as likely as you having sex.

>>135875249
>But there's hardly any financial advantage to it.
There's a small amount, just like telling people to buy the dips. It's basically like training wheels so people don't do something stupid and on average tend to do something that has a chance of being better than average.

I mean if you don't really know what you're doing, you shouldn't expect to be at the head of the pack. If you're closer to the head of the back than the back of the pack then you're doing alright. Kind of like having a penis that isn't small.

>>135870183
Two brothers basically tried to cormer the market.
https://priceonomics.com/how-the-hunt-brothers-cornered-the-silver-market/
I've always felt that wasn't the whole story though

>>135873626
Silber iz tax freie un Europa

>>135875383
Jupiter is not remotely large enough to have been a star. IIRC its about 75 times too small.

(meaning you'd need to cram another 75 or so Jupiters into our Jupiter for it to have been a star)

>>135875543
Brown Dwarf stars are like 10x Jupiter. And you can still fuse hydrogen at a smaller size.

>>135875537
Silver bars have the full sales tax of 19%, at least in Germany. Gold is tax free, silver coins can have reduced tax rates if the seller uses some legal tricks (importing coins from non EU countries, then the tax is only applied to the sellers profits rather than the total amount).

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>>135875134
You have been hearing it for over 20 years because back then it was true. Silver exploded in price after the change of monetary system in 1971.

Silver and other precious metals explode in value when there's instability and the monetary system has been changing roughly every 40 years for a century.

>>135875860
> and the monetary system has been changing roughly every 40 years for a century.
I forgot to say that another change is way long overdue.

>>135875826
Hmm, bizzare. Even if you order from Estonia?

(silver-to-go.com)

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>>135869195

Silver

> finally the Anglos acknowledging the supremacy of the Spanish monetary system

>>135876007
>Even if you order from Estonia?
Yes. Legally at least, you might get lucky and get it past the customs I guess.

>>135869195
Because if and when there is a collapse, currency will be food, water, ammo, and guns.

Silver is worthless, a byproduct of mining base metals. That's why there aren't many dedicated silver mines anymore - it's basically a by product of mining, an industrial metal one step above copper. It will never be worth enough to justify hoarding it unless you're talking 1000 of kg in which case your better off buying PM's that are actually rare like Gold and Platinum and store the equivalent amount in small home safe or buried in your yard as opposed to filling up a fucking shipping container with Silver.

It's just a scam PM traders play on rubes without enough $ to buy gold. Silver cucks are pathetic

what will u do wen the apocalipse hits and u have NOT bought gold frum rosland capital?

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I've been at Walmart for over a decade and only staying until the next recession and/or collapse. Hopefully my job will survive when most of the country will be on some type of gibs. I thought about quitting, then a financial calamity happens and I'm fucked because I don't, have any skills, qualifications, or a high school diploma.

>>135876366

The desert wanders are looking out for us by selling us shiny metals. Truly our greatest ally.

Silver trades at about 3x to 5x the cost of Copper. Would you hoard Copper? No you wouldn't. It's stupid. You might as well hoard pennies. God trades at 63x the price of silver now and that is on the lower end. So it Silver more like Copper or Gold? Is it and industrial metal or a PM? You fucking retards.

>>135875860
looks like a nice pump and dump there. Someone got rich off it, and many were left holding the bag.

>>135869195
Buy whisky. Its alot cheaper and worth alot more than silver in the same scenario.

>>135869195
Are you really going to trade silver in the street for goods after society collapses? good luck, i got a bridge to sell you.

>>135869195
because im stockpiling weapons and ammo so i can go out marauding

>>135876643
Who wants to put all his eggs in one basket? If you think you should have xyz% in metals, then silver is going to be a part of balancing that.

If the shorts ever come undone, it could wind up being quite the play. Or it could be a bit of a dud in the end. Just like if you move in to mining shares or mess with some graded coins on the chance that you could trade them in on a spike.

You might as well go shit talk holding treasury notes or why a gun can't save you from the government ordering an air strike into your front door.

>>135875120
Planet X BIATCHES!!!

>>135873808

Correction:
Ammunition, preserved Food, potable water(you'd be shocked how fast you will run out if the treatment plants go down for any reason) Medical supplies, Alcohol and cigarettes( proven to have incredible trade value when shit hits the fan), rtc.


Finding something to wipe your ass isn't that hard.

>>135876318
Platinum and gold are also byproducts of mining
That's completely irrelevant to their value

>>135877289
>oh fuck we keep getting all this gold and platinum mining this other shit, what a pain

>>135877020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_fool_theory

Brilliant, Im sure it will work out for you Silver cuck. I noticed you did not read or understand my arguments that Silver is not a PM, Gold, Platinum, Palladium, fine, those are real PM's. Silver is an industrial metal or cuck bait for poors. That is all.

Would be more practical to stockpile cigarettes, alcohol and antibiotics. No one is going to eat silver.

>>135874190
With acid.

>>135869324
You better start stockpilling acid.

>>135877289
>That's completely irrelevant to their value
If you're so stupid you think that gold is as common and found in the same quantities as silver during mining ops then that is a valid point but I guess everything has to be explained to you like little babby

>>135877434
Platinum and Palladium are much more industrial than silver. I'm tired of re-explaining this in every thread, but if you are high on coke already this morning then great for you.

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>>135877726
>I'm tired of re-explaining this in every thread
Pfft, fuck off shill, Silver, gold, Platinum and Palladium all have industrial applications, that doesn't mean they are all worth holding as a store of value, cuck, you can speculate on everything from stamps to copper but Gold, Platinum and Palladium are actually RARE. So they will keep their value whatever happens.

>>135876832
Pumpers got dumped
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Thursday

>>135869195

Can you eat silver?

>>135878060
There are plenty of rare metals. The question is what the market will bear when you buy them vs. when you sell them. Are you going to buy platinum while carmakers need to make catalytic converters and then sell it while lithium is needed for batteries instead? Or were you thinking your rhodium coin would be good for a sack of beans when mad max comes around? Or were you holding your platinum because you're in contact with some new technology where this is going to be needed as a catalyst?

Unbelievable.

>>135874558
Was bringen dir im Ernstfall große Gold oder Silberbarren
Ich würd lieber in Münzen investieren

>>135869367
Ok

>>135871219
Add sugar and whiskey to that list m8.

>Hey guys I think X is a good investment and you could make a lot of money if you buy it while it's cheap
>GUNS AND AMMO. CAN'T EAT COINS. HAVEN'T YOU SEEN MAD MAX? I HAVE A WHOLE ROOM IN MY HOUSE FILLED WITH CANNED BEANS.

Every single time.

You people are literally incapable of not ruining threads.

>>135879190
PM's are a shitty investment for most people.

>>135871511
There is a 90 minute video on youtube (if they haven't banned it) about the Argentine economic collapse in the 90s. The coming collapse will look something like that crossed with the current crisis in Venezuela. Have fun boys!

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>>135878918
>There are plenty of rare metals. The question is what the market will bear when you buy them vs. when you sell them.
You really are a master of the obvious, shill. I think we covered this before>>135877434. Once again, because you're so fucking dense, you can SPECULATE on anything but only RARE things are a STORE OF VALUE.
FURTHERMORE. If you like to speculate there are infinitely better ways to speculate than by physically holding PM's. like the stock market or in Bitcoin or whatever.... You CHILD.

>>135879190
They also always strawmen the shit out of it and pretends it's an either or situation where you can only invest into one thing and nothing else.

>"Hey Anon, how about you diversify your investments a bit to have less exposure to economic upheaval?"
>"Putting all my money into silver? Are you insane?"

>>135869324
^ this
I have guns which are worth a thousand times more than your gold and silver. Because with them, I can come and get your gold and silver.

>>135869367
No problem.

>>135871972
>price will soar
You again? I told you no yesterday when you cold called me. Wake me up when silver is around $8.

However, silver is a bit undervalued. Its normal price should be around $20. But with people making 20+% in stocks right now, the big money is staying out of metals.

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>>135879360
Stocks are in a bubble. Bonds are in a bubble. Real estate is in a bubble. Buttcoins are in a bubble. Currencies are very risky. Short selling is very risky. CDs and anything tied to interest rates are fucking worthless.

I can only imagine what kind of stupid shit you're throwing your money into, but I'm guessing it's some combination of the above.

Commodities are the best bet in general, and gold and silver have BY FAR the greatest potential as an investment that you can get into currently.

>>135879851
Equities/REITs/bonds/cryptos/PM's/cash

It's called diversification.

when EVERYTHING is in a bubble it doesn't matter anyway does it eh?

I'm young enough a crash won't impact me long term.

Bullets and food is far more valuable. And I don't feel like I'm getting jewed every time I buy those things.

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>>135879851
>Stocks are in a bubble. Bonds are in a bubble. Real estate is in a bubble. Buttcoins are in a bubble. Currencies are very risky. Short selling is very risky. CDs and anything tied to interest rates are fucking worthless.
Go on
>>135879851
>Commodities are the best bet in general, and gold and silver have BY FAR the greatest potential as an investment that you can get into currently.
Hahahaha... OK kid. I don't think you understand how a deflationary spiral works. In you scenario the best thing to do is hold cash, obviously. Any retard can tell you that but whatever...pic very related

>>135880011
It's still on the whole an obvious time to build even a small position in PMs. Kind of like when buttcoins came out and nobody knew wtf was going to happen, you would not have been called stupid to scrounge some party money to toss in to the ring and sat on it, and you would have been called smart to pull it out as it turned in to a down payment for a new car or whatever.

>>135880170
I think I understand perfectly well how deflationary spirals work and I think that you're legit retarded if you think there's going to be one

>makes no argument
>merchant meme
>against silver and gold but won't mention what you're investing in

Yep, checks out.

>>135876131
What does silver have to do with the Spanish monetary system?

If you are in the UK, buy from Atkinsons. Its cheaper than bullion by post.

https://atkinsonsbullion.com/silver/silver-coins/1oz-silver-coins?sort=price_asc&quantity=0&page=1&view=grid

>>135879851

>Short selling is very risky.

If you really thought all those asset classes were about to implode you'd be putting your balls on the table and shorting them.

Gold and Silver are abstract commodities that most people don't even have a concept of.

The ONLY reasons why anyone should own gold and silver in 2017 is;

1. Inflation.

2. High industrial demand.

>>135880231
>It's still on the whole an obvious time to build even a small position in PMs
If by PM's you mean gold, palladium or platinum than we agree. Silver is for cucks like
>>135879851

>>135880231
I have I think 2 maybe 3% in PM's just as a little hedge and bit of exposure.

I missed the boat on BTC, I really never thought it would be anything but a niche currency for drug dealers and hardcore libertarians. My mistake.

I did get into some other cryptos which have been doing well, again just to diversify. I intended to have 5% of my portfolio in cryptos but they kind of rapidly increased in value so now they're about 12%.

>>135873808
Even if you fill a whole room with toilet paper it'll only last a year or so. You're going to have to learn to wipe your ass with your hand like a mudslime in /pol/'s apocalyptic fantasy world.

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>>135869195
it's at its lowest point because its not worth jack shit dumbass

If rare metals are going to become soooo precious and valuable, why are you trying to shill it to us and trade our meaningless dollars for it?

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>>135880369
>I understand perfectly well how deflationary spirals work and I think that you're legit retarded if you think there's going to be one
>makes no argument
>ad hom
>claims I'm against gold when I've been defending it as a store of value in every repsonse

Yep, checks out

I've got a stash of silver but I feel like the price is fairly high right now. I wouldn't be surprised if it fell a couple more dollars per ounce by 2019.

>>135874010
Mate what are you doing shitposting on a cintiq

Like it's my ultimate goal too but I'm just checking that you've got your permit to shitpost on artistic devices.

>>135880742
I wouldn't be surprised, either, but if you're thinking of silver as a speculation like that then you're thinking about the upside potential. A dollar here or there on the buy side would be comparatively meaningless, kind of like buying melt-quality silver because you can save a few pennies on the premium if you seriously expect to turn around and sell or use it down the road.

>>135880369
I'm in cash (mostly), bonds (stops in), ag land and renting out two condos. Have about 20K gold coins and a small SHTF stash innawoods. I made a lot over the past decade trading mini S&P. I don't need to chase market now

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>>135880475
One, most of those things you can't short. Two, the market can remain irrational a lot longer than you can remain solvent. I have no interest in trying to time the market where if I fuck up it's going to cost me dearly. I would rather just buy shit everyone else (like you) think is worthless but that I believe has tremendous potential.

The literal worst that can happen to me is I have a safe filled with shiny bars with a lot of liquidity that happen to be immune to inflation.

>>135869195

Stockpiling gold is more efficient, easier to hide.

>>135869195
Something something an idiot and his money...

>>135870496
Superior intellect.

>>135871972

How is silver undervalued? Do you mean because the stock market is so hyperinflated, it's not used as commonly any more?

>>135878060

Thing is, the banks use gold so they're going to ensure gold retains value by indoctrinating huge amounts of people into believing gold is valuable. Do you remember learning gold is valuable?

>>135881184
It's shorted into the toilet, partly for industrial reasons and partially to keep plebs out of the market.

So is gold, and, in that case, then you have greater ease of shifting gold positions among big players who might be betting in part that it will resume some kind of common denominator status down the road.

>>135869195
>>135869195
What the fuck OP?
I´m a werewolf and you´re stockpiling silver? You´re raciss much?
You wanna go VanHellsing on our minority group you sick bastard?

All we wanna do is rut some bitches and eat a few people. That´s our god given right!
Werewolf live matters!

Aluminium is undervalued, it was highly valued once so it will surely be highly valued again in future.

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>economy crashes
>government loses chain of command
>people are looting and killing each other
>"fuck, I need some silver real bad"
>guy across the street has a bunch, but he wants all my shit for a few ounces
>don't care, I need that fucking silver
>sitting in my empty house playing with my stack of coins
>feelsgoodman.jpg

>>135879360

They're insurance and a retirement plan for when your debt currency has inflated to the point where everything you worked for is now worthless. They're not a get-rich-quick scheme. Gold has been valuable for thousands of years. Even if it had NO PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS WHATSOEVER, women still value gold for jewelry and women spend 90% of all money.

You cant eat silver retard. If shit goes down your currency is food, fuel and ammo

>>135881427
So my arrows will be tipped with money? oops

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>>135880988
>I have a safe filled with shiny bars
Yeah, this is pretty much the attraction. Typical ZH reader/commenter. >>135880988
>a lot of liquidity that happen to be immune to inflation
Silver is not "liquid". You would learned that in college, if you had gone. Gold cannot be inflated away, but you have silver which nobody wants and is not rare - it's fancy copper and it won't protect your from inflation. You must be from the South to be this dumb.

desu I think the best thing to hoard would be pharmaceuticals. Its not so visible but lots people need them to live and if civilization collapses they'd be fucked without them.

>>135881427

Isn't aluminum common as fuck, but it used to be harder to work with before all this technology and new welding techniques?

>>135881437
>most people

Yes, if you have enough gold you can offload it in quantities large enough to matter to the jewelry trade, then yes, holding gold is a wonderful hedge against fiat currency collapse

Do most people have kilos of gold?

No.

>>135881917

You'd want pharma that has
>a long shelf life
>high demand
>hard to produce alternatives for from natural things

For example, insulin has a high demand but a shelf-life of three months so you'd have to know WHEN the apocalypse would hit for it to be of any use.

>>135881917
Yup. But they can be difficult to acquire in bulk and to store. But if you know your way around first aid and basic medical care, then you'll know what you need, and your skills will be a very lasting investment.

There will never not be demand for medical care.

>>135871511
Nobody is going to buy your shady ciggs, the market will still offer official brand tobacco, it will just cost more.

Go to a big city. Go to any corner. See people selling "loosies" for $1 each.

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>>135881551
Try eating cash, You faggot

>>135881917
When I was in the Army I remember a study being published on the shelf life of pharmaceuticals; most keep their potency for about ten years regardless of the shelf life on the container.

Just an angle to consider.

>>135869195
Again? I did so every year for the last 10 years when somebody prophesied the collapse. Will it finally happen this year?

>>135881429

you forgot to mention the coins were actually counterfeited and were really lead coins with a thin layer of silver

>>135882095

The euro is guaranteed to collapse, I didn't even mention "most people" but anything is better than the euro currency at this point. Even at a 20% cut for the buyer, gold is still better than euro because literally anything is right now.

Electronic systems require electronics and seeing as the entire West is being flooded with niggers, I doubt anything electronic will last very long in such a situation.

silver is $16.93/oz right now

kek

>>135881631
You know what, you're right and seem to know what you're doing. You should be converting everything to cash or bonds.

>>135882346
Everything is guaranteed to collapse given enough time.

The sun is guaranteed to swell and consume the Earth, so why does any of this matter?

>>135882310
The neat thing about silver and gold is even at coin alloys where it's maybe only 90% pure for durability, you can still do the ring test.

Balance it on your knuckle, flick it with your finger nail, and hold it up to your ear. Nothing has that pure ring to it like gold or silver. Poor man's purity test.

>>135882169
>american standards

Who the fuck buys ciggs that don't have a brand on them that would get sued to death if they put nasty shit in?
Its a guarantee that you won't get poisoned (too much) by your murdersticks.

>>135869195

you can't eat silver. it's worthless. precious metals are only valuable in stable economies.

You're better off stockpiling bullets and seeds.

>>135880988
Let's see ... $100 in 1973 is worth $450 today

http://www.in2013dollars.com/1975-dollars-in-2017?amount=100

So in order to "keep up with inflation" Silver should be worth 4.5x what it was worth in 1975, right? ($5)

NOW, lemee take off mah shoes and do mah countin' figures...
WHOA. HOOBOY! Mah silver isn't worth $22.5!

And that's just to keep up with inflation. What else are you selling?

>>135882463

Because the euro collapsing is going to happen soon and the sun expanding is going to take another 3 billion years. I fucking hate you marxist cunts, no basic reasoning anywhere to be found. It matters because I don't want my family to die, cunt.

>>135882638
And guns and all the other supplies you'd need to make effective use of seeds.

Even a decent garden in the back yard is more work than you'd think if you haven't done it before. Forget about firing up a hobby farm if it's not already your hobby.

The collapse has been habbenig for 30 years now. It's become the new eschatological branch of the church of capitalism

>>135882731

>lives in EU where his nig or Muslim murderers will get paid millions by the EU human rights court if they get inconvenienced with arrest
>doesn't want his family to die
>makes sense

I'm not a Marxist, I just have enough common sense to know silver is a really shitty investment, and the only real way to make money with it is to convince even dumber people to buy it from you after you were tricked into buying it.

>>135882721
Silver almost hit the magic $50/oz mark back when folks were still thinking the housing bubble was about to come undone. Pick any two points you want on the historical price charts and you can make any argument you want.

You're literally retarded, but congrats on having made out as well as you have so far. Now to work on making your financial advice actionably useful.

>>135869195
Because, unlike gold, they charge 20% sales tax on it in the UK, it makes it a bit of a non-starter as an investment

>>135869367
you're a faggot commie
kys with that faggot socialist flag you stupid nigger
I'll bleach you out like the rest of the untermensch kraut cancer

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>>135870496
THIS

>>135882953
Sovereigns are a top tier thing to pile if you think you should be allocating your money into physical, though. And they conveniently come in sub-oz denomination, making them easier to deal with for poorfags (not that I'm so sure poorfags should be worried about gold).

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>silver

You guys are so cute.

>>135883201
>MS-61
Eh. Maybe. You'd usually want to wait until a slightly higher grade came down close to bullion if you're going to play that game, but it all depends on when you bought those.

>>135883084
Yes, gold sovereigns are great. It's a shame about the silver, it does look undervalued atm.

>>135869195
silver and gold are for faggots. like you OP, a faggot
get guns, ammo, long life food, water and iodine tabs. have some silver and gold. but faggots like you dont realize to stock things that will save your life or can be traded easier. and medicine. make sure to steal the tyelynol packets from work. all that good stuff. steal it. bandaids, gauze, neosporin. ive llooted so much from my work place

>>135883341
2003 I think.

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>>135882638
>precious metals are only valuable in stable economies.

Factually horseshit.

Gold and silver had value during the 30 Years War, The Black Death, during mass famines, The Great Depression, and through all of the horrors of the Middle Ages and Antiquity. Stop watching Mad Max video games and watching murder porn, they do not reflect reality.

Economic collapses do not mean your neighbors start going out and randomly stabbing everyone and looting their house for some fucking beans, because hey, guess what? THEY CAN FIGHT BACK, and actions have consequences. Plus some people aren't complete sociopaths and have this capacity to try and work with others peacefully, because interpersonal violence tends to go catastrophically bad.

>>135883376
>bandaids, gauze, neosporin
Not to be understated. It's crazy how easy it is to die from a simple infection if you can't dress a simple wound.

>>135882124
"fish" antibiotics is a good start.... go to an online pet store and buy several bottles of penicillin & amoxicillin for fish. They come in human dosages and were manufactured in the same plants as the human stuff. Also be sure to print out the common ailments they treat and how much / how long you need to take them for that ailment.

These have a shelf life much longer than the bottle says and will be a matter of life or death if S really does HTF.

>>135882932

We were talking about GOLD, you lying jew.

>everything is guaranteed to collapse given enough time

Fuck you, kill yourself.

>>135882935
>Silver almost hit the magic $50/oz
On retard panic buying, now you're trying to sell it all to suckers on 4chanz... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA silver cucks are so pathetic.
>>135882935
>Pick any two points
No, that's not how you gauge an "investment" silver cuck
SPY in 1975 = 75
SPY in 2017 = 2476
(not counting dividends!)
Go back to your trailer and beat your wife silver cuck. I'm earning 7% on your rental payments :)


http://www.multpl.com/s-p-500-historical-prices/table/by-year

>>135883519
Also you can get some gentian violet, common antiseptic for farms animals. Not for use on an open wound, but it has a long shelf life and can come in handy for fighting topical infections.

>>135869324
FPBP

>>135883519
>was medic
>work in healthcare

Can confirm this desu. They're the same drug down to the molecular level, but a metric fuck ton cheaper because you bypass the (((pharma cartel))).

you can get doxycycline and cephalexin this way too.

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>>135882721
Maybe you forgot the part where I said it was undervalued. :^)

But no you're right bonds are way better. Let's put all of our money into that.

>>135883376

Those things are cheap, there's only so much you can store but otherwise, very solid advise.

>>135883542
The fucking thread is about silver and shills trying to pump and offload it dude. try and keep up.

>>135883561
I'm not trying to sell anything. I sold some at around $25/oz so as to convert bars into coins without getting washed out by premiums and capital gains tax. The rest I have no intention of selling, ever.

Rentals are p. good though. During that interval, I was out of a job and made good money and connections doing general contractor type stuff. There will always be a need to fix shit -- skills are a great investment. Being a landlord also takes some skill.

>>135883471

It's also really hard to starve people to death with how easy it is to grow food. It's just that it's even easier to do things that give you more value for your time than growing food in a western economy where land and machines are much more expensive than the food.

>>135869195
fucking VAT, mang
the authoritarians here charge it both when buying and selling

They are all hedges to protect yourself from disaster.
I would have bitcoin in the event of capital controls, bank runs.
I would rather have gold and silver in the event of electrical grid failure/EMP attack.
I would rather have food/water/beer/cigs in the event of WW3/ nuclear holocaust.
Depends on how the collapse unfolds.

>>135883812
It's easy to grow when you're in growing season and it doesn't get all stolen or otherwise ruined up. Food preservation methods would be your friend.

>>135883715

Literally you, 10 minutes ago, in reply to >>135881437

>>135882463
>>135882932

>Everything is guaranteed to collapse given enough time.
>The sun is guaranteed to swell and consume the Earth, so why does any of this matter?

Fuck off kike, the holocaust is a lie, death to Israel.

>>135869195

Because it's no skill, nothing I can eat or drink or which keeps me warm in coldness or cool in heat.
The precious metal meme must die. What you need to survive a collapse is skills to hunt, keep yourself clean properly, cleansing water and food, how to start a fire and how to build a shelter. And everything that accompanies these things.

>>135869195
Where do I buy pure silver?

>>135883685
>Maybe you forgot the part where I said it was undervalued. :^)
Maybe you forgot the parts where I showed you how stupid an idea that is
>>135883685
>But no you're right bonds are way better.
I never said that YOU should, I bought VBMFX in 2010 and have been accumulating since (.05 expense ration + monthly dividends), I have my stops in (that means when the bond bubbles bursts I will be out with a huge profit). you and your poorfag friends should hold cash and pay down debt, you're too stupid to invest at this time. There will be bargains aplenty in the next two years,

>>135884087

Books on survival skills are good too, since it's hard to remember everything and we don't know what a collapse will look like and how fast and to what degree we can recover. Look at 1933 Germany, where people were killing their children so they wouldn't die of starvation. By 1938, richest country on earth.

Do you now many millions of pounds of silver are stored in American households in the forms of spoon, knives and forks? We have about 20# and we're far from a wealthy family. Shit will be worthless if the SHTF.

>>135874973

How do they know you own sliver, though?

>>135884114
Jewgle Silver Maple Leaves. They come from the Canadian Mint.

Cross-reference pricing with, say, apmex.com to make sure you're not getting ripped off on the premiums.

>>135874416
Depend if it's an economic collapse or a climate change related catastrophe.

>>135884286
I want to pay market price not their markup.

>>135884121

Aren't government bonds and debt notes in general going to be worthless when Trump kills the Federal Reserve or the Federal Reserve kills Trump and civil war breaks out?

Trump knew he pretty much signed his own death sentence when he mentioned taking down the federal reserve. He's either going to die trying, succeed partially and get assassinated after he leaves office or win a complete victory, which is unlikely since he surrounds himself with jews.

>>135884034
I'm at work and not following this 100%, but I'm still right. Silver is shit and gold IS indeed useful as a hedge against fiat trickery, but if you think it will sustain you through a currency collapse you'd better have a lot of it; and most people who even do hold gold do NOT have much beyond a few ounces.

Again, MOST people shouldn't bother with PM's.

Following this toothpaste?

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>>135884114
Try these guys
>>135882935
>>135883685
They're sitting on a mountain of bullion they bought @ $50

Silver cucks are the new my wifes bf

>>135884228

Yeah - regarding the books. What I mean everything that is PRACTICALLY APPLICABLE. Silver will help you shit when savages overrun you, because you lack basic skills - or even die due to that.
And what people will trade when the world hypothetically collapses is food, seeds and other naturalia.

>>135884379

Market price is whatever others are willing to pay, so with all this government intervention we have no idea what the hell market prices are but one thing is sure, it's less than what it is with government interference added.

The idea is to limit your losses.

>>135883602
thanks anon, I will order some of that. I also have purchased some quick clot & a Tourniquet for my medical kit.

There are some really good youtube channels on the medical subject... I highly recommend the Patriot Nurse.

And I also recommend getting a good medical book - I got the Survival Medical Handbook

>>135884452

Nobody fucking claimed any of that, you jewish retard. What the fuck is wrong with you and your inflated ego?

>>135884379
You can't buy silver for spot price. The way dealers stay in business is on the spread. It's always going to be a one or a few percent above spot to buy it, and it's always going to be something similar below to sell it.

That's how an honest dealer remains profitable regardless of the price of silver. Theo only other option for a dealer is to speculate, and then dump the losses on the customer. This is a very, very common reason why dealers go out of business because eventually they get caught when the market doesn't go the way they were expecting.

>>135884484
I didn't buy at $50. It didn't even hit $50. Are you dense?

>>135884228
books on curing meat & canning / preserving food.... and the equipment needed to do this is pretty important. Most of us have never had to do this stuff in real life.

>>135869195
I have a buddy, him and his dad collected silver coins and bars. And when I say collected, I mean they stockpiled. Mostly silver dimes. Last time I saw they had a basement of a building full of about 35, 5 gallon buckets full of silver.

>>135884672

You claimed it 10 minutes ago.

>They're insurance and a retirement plan for when your debt currency has inflated to the point where everything you worked for is now worthless. women still value gold for jewelry and women spend 90% of all money.

Better have a shit ton of gold to be able to wholesale it to jewelers or last through a currency collapse.

>>135884791
>I didn't buy at $50. It didn't even hit $50
I was implying you bought at the top silver cuck. And I know you did. You were the one who mentioned $50
>>135882935
I wasn't buying PM's during the fear trade and I don't own fancy copper in any case silver cuck.

>>135875229
digital safe affixed to the wall

>>135885230
It never hit $50. I think the highest I bought a bit more was at about $42, but that was reluctant. Did it top out at $48 or so? I did most of my buying sub-$14.

I don't even know what you're arguing about. I suppose you spend your mornings getting drunk and shouting incoherently into the internet, which is a great investment.

>>135869195
I've been so busy hoarding toilet paper and coffee beans, I hadn't noticed the price is down. Is spot below $11 again? Last I looked it was riding a little over $16.

>>135869324
Ironically most forms of silver would be worthless in collapse.

>>135885146

Claimed what, you retarded jew?

Did I say "buy gold, it will sustain you"? No, I said buy supplies and other useful things and when you have funds to spare, buy gold.

You are a retard with a fragile ego who needs to shout things and strawman claims to attack because you didn't read the thread and now you feel stupid on an ANONYMOUS IMAGEBOARD where nobody knows who the fuck you are and this thread will disappear after today. So why are you acting like this? You have issues, that's why. Sort yourself out, stop burdening us.

inb4 overtly defensive shitposting because mama said you were perfect

>>135885682
I did read it. You're a slimy fucking PM shill 'TEH COLLAPSE IS CUMMING 4 REALZ THIS TIME GUYZ BETTER BUY MY SHIT NOW!" It's fucking old and and tired. No one wants your marked up shit toothpaste.

Literally ANY investment is better than PMs for most people.

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>>135869195
>>>/biz/

>>135870183
I'm more concerned about ~1925? when silver was literally 0$
I mean, I know there was a Great Depression going on, but still, completely free?

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>>135869195
>listening to shills

every mining company on the planet is expanding production. that is a fact. it will be in demand for renewable energy projects but not to the extent these fucking dumbass shills pump.

>>135886249
I have some copper, silver, gold, & platinum in my safe - it is a comfort for me to know it is there. I live on 25 acres 30 miles from town, I also have a year of food, seeds, TP, a hand pump for my well, guns, ammo, cash, medicine, etc, etc. Everything I have stockpiled is a hedge against my bets... no one knows if / what / when something might happen. If the dollar collapses I have a contingency plan; if the grid goes down, I have a contingency plan.

It is all there to insure myself and my family will have the best advantage to survive whatever might happen... To me, PMs are insurance, not an investment, but I am happy I have them.

>>135874190
Don't be a prick, bin that stick.

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>>135869324

>>135886871
When there is plenty of food, it is worth something. When there is little food, it is worth more. Where there is no food, it is worthless.

>>135886978
>my family will have the best advantage to survive whatever might happen
Family and community are possibly the best investments of all. No wonder that's under the most direct attack.

>>135869195
You can't eat silver though, can you?

>>135880385
I guess we found a lot of it in argentina (argento -> silver, I think) and started using it on coins or something. Don't really know.

>>135887263
dunno man, x divided by 0 is either infinite or negative infinite, but not 0

>>135887263
>When there is plenty of food, it is worth something
It has the value of what you paid for it when you don't need it
>When there is little food, it is worth more
A can of food will have more value than a jug of coins

>>135886249

And that's how we know you're full of shit and a jew. Fiat currency is a terrible investment, government bonds are even worse, stocks are a fucking meme. Gold isn't taxed unlike silver, and it's been valuable since humans discovered it.

>>135887639
>A can of food will have more value than a jug of coins
Anon you missed his point. The revaluations all depend on what kind of a possible collapse or depression we might be up against.

That's what makes versatility (read: diversification) valuable. There's a reason why armchair traders talk about VIX all day long lately.

>>135869324
britbongs arent allowed to own anything sharper than a butter knife.

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>>135869195
>Why aren't you ...
because it's too late.
For gold and silver you should have bought that shit back in 2010 if you wanted real profit by selling it now.
Same for Bitcoin.
Those who want to buy now just want to jump on the train while it's not too late. The truth is the train has gone for a long time.

>>135887889
It's tradable all day long because of the fluctuating value. But if you just buy it to sit on for some collapse it's not going to gain value. You get less when you sell off your stuff when you are desperate and not when it's value is actually up.

So when hording supplies for a bad time what will get you further? Spending your money on something relatively expensive with arbitrary value or buying a lot more of less expensive things that have immediate value?

Got in to trading cryptos recently. Kind of missed the boat on it, but whatever. Figure I'll use it to practice playing around with buy/sell.

>>135869195
>holding worthless silver
>not even more worthless crypto
You deserve to be poor like your grandpa

>>135869195

>wasting money on useless metal
>not stocking up on cocaine

>>135887914
Britbongs have to pay tax when they buy metals

Hoard the strategic metals such as steel, lead, and brass.

It it the ONLY thing you will need when SHTF.

>>135888764

Most day traders lose money. Buy and hold if you believe in the tech

>>135889475
My various kinds of solder might come in handy.

>>135882957
>national socialism, the ideology that is the antithesis of communism (institutional judaism) and battled communism harder than anything else, is just the same as marxist socialism (a stepping stone towards communism) lmao
fucking lolbergs. you're supposed to lurk for two years before posting, faggot

>>135869195
Where is the best place to buy for the best price NatSoc bro? Should I get physical silver or ETF's

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Silver is for Judas.

>>135890145
definitely get physical. an etf is absolutely worthless

>he doesn't hoard tampons
use your brians

>>135890145
Physical is for investing: you pay extra and have to keep it in the back of your closet for doomsday or whatever, and then take a loss and hassle to liquidate it.

ETFs are for trading: you can jump in and out relatively easily per market moves, but the risk is that it might shit the bed on you.

Both have their place in a balanced portfolio. I have both.

Collapse of the economy, but you are still saving money? That shit has no value if the whole system collapses m8, stockpile ammo and guns

>>135869367
You're very short sighted.

I can collect your silver just as easily from your house and corpse after I firebomb you at 3AM with Molotov Cocktails launched from 80 yards away via a giant slingshot. They can survive a fire, you can't.

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What is going on with the silver price right now? On zero news it is popping and dropping.

It's like there is major battle for the price going on between China and the US banksters. Chinese will win eventually, once they have stacked enough.

>>135891303
I haven't been paying much attention to market grapevine in years, but that looks pretty normal. COMEX dumps it when people show up to to work. Quick spike in the overnight.

Probably shenanigans, but that looks about the same as 10 years ago for August.

>>135890963

So you'll burn his house down, which will take a few hours. Then you'll pillage the house in full view of anyone nearby, exposing yourself to anyone with a gun that doesn't want their house burned down. Foolproof.

>>135869195
I'm stockpiling things I can trade like gas lanterns and lighters and pocket knives. You think after society collapses people will give a shit about silver? What a retard. Silver is only useful as a medium for exchange but it's becoming less and less used for that purpose. Only old guys still think it's valuable.

>>135891489
I hate that "Because people will shoot you and kill you for it" is now an argument against an asset class.

>>135891587
>and pocket knives.
Hey I can sharpen those for you. Let me know if any of your customers need to get sharpened back up.

Want me to sharpen one for you so you can show them as you're selling?

>>135890311
this and baby diapers. Personal hygiene items will be pretty valuable. I would rather trade those for a dozen eggs than something someone can stab / shoot me with!

>>135892148
>baby diapers
My mom did my diapers in the laundry. Granted it was nice luxurious mechanical laundry, which might not be so available, but I have to suspect people would revert to this kind of practicality should there be more important things to worry about.

>blow large amounts of money stockpiling gold and silver
>because AM talk radio commercials tell me to
>ww3 begins
>EMPs wipe out electricity
>nukes are launched
>country collapses
>law no longer exists
>neither does commerce
>everyone killing each other
>good thing I blew all my money on now useless gold and silver instead of investing in firearms and ammunition
>cant eat gold and silver
>cant defend myself with gold and silver
>everyone too worried about killing each other and taking than trading

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how much of your personal net worth is in precious metals? 4% here

Silver has few to no use outside tableware and jewlery.

Why would something that has no use would be valuable?

Gold on the other hand is used on every single electronic device.

>>135892816
I'm sure you're a very wise and successful investor who only makes financial decisions based on sound logic and likely scenarios.

>>135892908
Depending on how you valuate it, maybe 20% to 30% of "retirement" savings, just to balance out the IOUs. I'm not really counting on "retirement."

Net worth I don't know. Much less.

>>135888539
jokes on you surrender monkey

if you bought gold/crypto/stocks on the trump train you'd have 10-100% gains across the board

>>135893205
Nah, I just have guns and ammo, because when shit goes down, shekels arent gonna matter anymore. And if it does, Im gonna be the one taking.

>>135892697
again, it all depends on the situation and how long it lasts. recently in Venezuela, people were trying to cross the border to get things like TP & diapers - but I believe the borders are closed now because Maduro is trying to phase out some currency.

But you are right, long term, when given no other option but to go cloth, society will have to adjust.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PRE-SALE-SPECIAL-PRICE-1-oz-Silver-Buffalo-Ultra-High-Relief-Round-Lot-of-20-/142462177224?hash=item212b684fc8:g:e8kAAOSwNJ5Zf4yf

This ebay store, along with some others such as JM Bullion, have good deals a lot.

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>>135893474
>And if it does, Im gonna be the one taking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPhqsunGPII

>>135893378
implying i didn't my yellow teeth mongrel friend

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>>135893474
LARP faggots like this fail to realize there is always someone with more guns than you.

Where as owning another means of reliable barter will never be bad.

Why the fuck would you stockpile silver?

Why not just buy food and guns now when the prices are not fucked and you get free shipping?

You're going to spend all day trying not to get robbed, taking in poisonous air and radiation to get Old Pete to sell you his rusty .22 for $400 worth of silver when you can pick up a Mosin-Nagant now for $200 at a pawn shop on your way to McDonalds.

>>135893690
Laugh all you want, Im sure you can beg for your life with useless coins in a chaos scenario

>>135893886
>LARP faggots
>muh more guns than you
You have no guns, so youre fucked right out of the gate, cuck.

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>>135869195
Anon, I...

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>>135894251
>Laugh all you want, Im sure you can beg for your life with useless coins in a chaos scenario

I'll laugh because I have guns too you utter retard.

>>135893932
The assumption is you did that years ago. How new r u?

>>135893932
They're up to 200 now?

Fuck!

I got mine 10 years ago for 60.

>>135894420
LOL yeah, you'll survive 5ever with that handful of junk.

>>135890963
I think you overestimate the accuracy of a giant slingshot and the size of his house.

>>135894468
So instead of buying more guns I need to buy useless silver?

>>135894545
I was just glancing at the prices, I see some for $50-$70 now.

>>135869195
If I had money to stockpile on other money I would, but I imagine the collapse will be more "The Road" and less "OH GOD OUR DOLLAR IS COLLAPSING HELP US GOY!" We'd go to war with China before we let our dollar drop too low, they keep fucking with the market as it is.

>>135894808
>So instead of buying more guns I need to buy useless silver?
I would recommend having many more guns than you need. But you might hit a point where you start to wonder if there's something better to do than buy another gun.

>>135894992
Yeah, like bullets.

>>135895163
Absolutely. I imagine at a certain point you'd be putting further funds toward being able to reload, and probably learning to be a gunsmith.

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fuck off william devane

>>135895163
You'd also want to keep a lot of spare parts. All those little springs and everything else. Cleaning supplies.

Not everybody knows how to do all that.

>>135874741
This, look at the stamps on bottom of silver or tarnished serving sets. Reasearch the marks and be aware of silver plate vs real silver. Also alot of old china sets and decorative plates have gold and will say it on the mark.

>>135869195

If you know anything about the mining process for silver you'll know it's a ridiculous investment. It hasn't increased in value in 40 years, even against inflation.

You're better off with a smaller amount of gold, a couple of bitcoins or foreign currency.

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>>135869195
>implying most people with silver did anything more to prep than watch a William Devain commercial and place an order
>implying those investments are safe

>>135895984
Who's William Devain and what is watching a commercial? I thought I was "sucking Peter Schiff's cock", or at least that's what /pol/ used to tell me.

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>>135891489
>implying people aren't going to mind their own fucking business because my associates don't already have a firebomb aimed at your house

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>>135869195
I got 350 oz silver coins inside my walls. It's so heavy

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>>135896144
Yeah. Something like that. Buy silver btw.

>>135896300
Wait so I'm not sucking Peter Schiff's cock anymore? I thought I was listening to too much Glenn Beck.

I can't keep up with these shifting narratives.

>>135869195
>apocalypse
>hoarding "precious" metals

If the apocalypse happens, nobody will give a shit about your silver, except maybe as a water disinfectant.
It'll keep sitting next to your dead body long after they've looted every other remotely useful item from your home.

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I bought a sliver coin like this one.

Australian Perth Mint Kookaburra 1 Kilo (32.15 ounces) Silver Coin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DTjahg-5Q4

>>135897267
You should have bought Chinese Pandas from eBay. C'mon, son!

>>135897136
When did he mention the apocalypse?

You people are incapable of anything other than strawmanning wild Mad Max scenarios where you think economic downturns play out like a plotline from Crossed.

>>135897589

I was going to call you a retard and point it out, but it turns out I actually misread "collapse." Nevermind, then.

Silver is a good way to make a savings if you have a hard time saving money.

I would buy an ounce or two and had about 45 ounces when it jumped to $49 an ounce back around 2012.

I sold it all and got about 2k and used that to put a down payment on 5 acres of bug out land which I'm almost done paying off.

It helped me you just have to be realistic about it's uses.

>>135898572
Nicely done.

What the fuck are you going to do with that land, though? Once you bug out, assuming you make it there, what comes next?