/LRG/ - RIGHT WING LIBERTARIAN GENERAL - MI GENERAL EDITION

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FAQ:
>Do you support open borders?
No. The rightful owners of public property (including borders) are the victims of taxation. Therefore nobody can benefit from that land save for them. Eventually this issue would be solved by full privatisation, but that's still far in the future. Also we don't like brown people.
>(((Capitalism)))
Locke, Smith and Bastiat, the founders of capitalism as an economic system based off private property norms, were all Gentiles. Acquisition of resources is a vital part of human action and has brought us such wonders like ancient architecture, art, and technology far beyond what we could have imagined a hundred years ago. Jews are interested because it deals with acquisition of resources, like any other serious economic system.
>What about roads?
Since companies need infrastructure to transport their goods to reach people who in turn need infrastructure for their own needs, this system of mutual dependence is the incentive for any faggot with a steamrol-nah I'm just fucking with you. (((Roads))) are the asphalt Jew that limits evaporation from the soil and gives kids autism. We take helicopters everywhere we go.
>LOLBERGTARDIANS R DEGENERATE
Degeneracy is a symptom of r-selected individuals within a K-selected society. Just kick them out, their high time preference and negative externalities caused by their presence and behaviour are a good enough reason for their physical removal. No trap harems for you.
>What about usury?
Banking marketed to ordinary folk was a mistake, so much so that even (((Rothbard))) disapproves of it. End the FED, price war now.

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RECOMMENDED READING LIST:
ECONOMY
>The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith
>A Treatise on Political Economy by Jean-Baptiste Say
>The Law by Fréderic Bastiat
>The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich August von Hayek
>The Economics and Ethics of Private Property by Hans-Hermann Hoppe
>Man, Economy, and State by Murray Rothbard
>Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell
POLITICS
>Democracy - The God that Failed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe
>Second Treatise of Government by John Locke
>Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick
>For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard
>Against the State by Llewellyn Rockwell
>Reactionary Liberty by Robert Taylor
>What Must Be Done by Hans-Hermann Hoppe

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MEDIA:
GOOD TIER
>Minarchy Memes on faceberg - sometimes posts edgy stuff
>Liberty Hangout on faceberg - libertyhangout.org - adamant fighters against communism
>jasonstapleton.com - The Jason Stapleton Program - right-libertarian podcast
>youtube.com/user/ThatLibertarianT - That Guy T
GREAT TIER
>Hoppean Snake Memes on faceberg - the source of the snake memes we keep posting - keep up, nerd
>youtube.com/user/FreedomFighter631 - radicalagenda.com - christophercantwell.com - Chris Cantwell - host of the Radical Agenda
>youtube.com/channel/UCRr7mGBwURyRGM2BRPV3hNQ - Augustus Sol Invictus' ramblings and other content
>youtube.com/channel/UCIwnY7Ee4Kfn8g6tz9tjfzA - 1st Irregulars - former Cantwell's supporters, decided to go even further right
>1stirregulars.com - 1st Irregulars' main site
>youtube.com/user/stefbot - Stefan Molyneux
>tomwoods.com - Tom Woods's podcasts
>youtube.com/user/Morrakiu - youtube.com/channel/UCqAIvs0vAb71x_ZO10HArhA - http://morrakiu.com/ - Morrakiu of TRS and Radical Agenda
INFORMATIVE TIER
>mises.org - Mises Institute
>propertyandfreedom.org - Property and Freedom Society
>lewrockwell.com - Lew Rockwell
BANTZ TIER
>Jared Howe's faceberg account

Fuck Cato. Open borders for Israel.

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VIDEOS/PODCASTS:
>Christopher Cantwell - How I started hanging out with Nazis - youtube.com/watch?v=-Yv9JZiaFUg
>Christopher Cantwell - In Defense of Capitalism - youtube.com/watch?v=pc-kLdpWmlY
>Christopher Cantwell with Wife with a Purpose - youtube.com/watch?v=_vvikwuyv_I
>Christopher Cantwell with Mike Enoch - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/17/radical-agenda-ep302-mike-enoch/
>Christopher Cantwell with That Guy T - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/19/radical-agenda-ep303-articulate-black-guy/
>Christopher Cantwell with Jared Howe - radicalagenda.com/2017/05/24/radical-agenda-ep306-jared-howe/
>Christopher Cantwell with Morrakiu - radicalagenda.com/2017/06/07/radical-agenda-ep313-morrakiu/
>Augustus Sol Invictus - Becoming a Reactionary - youtube.com/watch?v=HPQ9yh0gWoE
>Augustus Sol Invictus - The War on Terror - youtube.com/watch?v=wy2O7CPNmqI
>Hans-Hermann Hoppe - What Must Be Done - youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c
>1st Irregulars - 1433: National Capitalism and the Correct View - youtube.com/watch?v=eVnDAa1LWpw
>That Guy T - The Case for Libertarian Fascism - youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8

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>>>/lgbt/

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MUSIC:
>Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.1 - youtube.com/watch?v=pGuj-Z3PNg8
>Eric July - AnCap Rap pt.2 - youtube.com/watch?v=zqV4RXLX1Hc
>I Need a Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o
>Ain't I Right - youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ
>I'm No Communist - youtube.com/watch?v=gudJgbvBnmo
>Metallica - Don't Tread On Me - youtube.com/watch?v=fh-TKJTCtnw
>Dixie's Land - youtube.com/watch?v=IUjLE_N1Cuc
>Yankee Doodle - youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo
>Battle of New Orleans (if you counter-signal Jackson I swear on me mum I'll skullfuck you - plus it's a good song so fuck you) - youtube.com/watch?v=50_iRIcxsz0
>Mi General Augusto Pinochet - youtube.com/watch?v=R9R4zPTpS9w
>Adios Mi General - youtube.com/watch?v=5rsb7dT6sEM
>Rhodesians Never Die - youtube.com/watch?v=ecVvLqSJCK8
>Hammer Of The Right - youtube.com/watch?v=Vz_CagU5wjY
>Morrakiu - The Edgytarian Song (/lrg/'s anthem) - youtube.com/watch?v=3qX8B02NDHI
>Morrakiu - Drop It Like It's Hoppe - youtube.com/watch?v=HPKGgo4kGQM
>Morrakiu - Another One Fights The Cucks - youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU
>Morrakiu - What Would Jeffrey Tucker Do? - youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuGl-FEDo
>Morrakiu - Agreeing with the Liberals for All the Wrong Reasons - youtube.com/watch?v=eASnXIubJEE

>LE NEGRO ANARCHIST - MARCHING SONGS FOR MERCENARIES OF ALL ENTERPRISING MEN OF THE WORLD - anarchyinblack.tumblr.com/post/160501747153/radio-ancapistan-marching-songs-for-the-child

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MEMES:
>Hoppewave - Physical Removal - youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ
>Cato's Speech - Let's get Physical - youtube.com/watch?v=XMqPWqOCGJU
>Hoppean Snake Memes - Let The Commies Hit The Floor - youtube.com/watch?v=yy9VvAuCCEg
>Stefan Molyneux - In-Depth Analysis of Marxism - youtube.com/watch?v=SGunPi4G2Ns
>Hoppean Snake Memes - Shadilay (Meme War against Agoristball) - youtube.com/watch?v=8xBsJUYySNo
>Hoppean Snake Memes - Snekintosh 420 - youtube.com/watch?v=JJMdttBmtsY
>That Guy T shitposting about the Alt-Right - youtube.com/watch?v=77CdqY4IdgU

The fuck is slovakia doing in a normal timezone?

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>Open Borders Are an Assault on Private Property | Lew Rockwell
https://mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property
>Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal | Lew Rockwell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5wZjdEl9F8
>Nations by Consent | Murray Rothbard
https://mises.org/sites/default/files/11_1_1_0.pdf
>Natural Order, the State, and the Immigration Problem | Hans-Hermann Hoppe
https://mises.org/system/tdf/16_1_5.pdf?file=1&type=document

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Commies are all about control, kill them before they lay their jew eggs.

>>135748138
>Libertarians are social conservatives
Please, consider suicide stormfag shill.

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State enforced "morality" is pure degeneracy

>>135748514
Go use your freedom to shoot up and suck dicks libertine faggot. Fuck off.

>>135748514
>Wait? You guys have standards? NAZIS! FUCKING FASCISTS!
cancer. Pls die.

>>135748514
cmon you come from a post-communist shithole you should know better

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I remind you folks to kill commies. It's better that way.

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>>135748607
>State enforced "morality" is pure degeneracy
Why did you put morality in quotes, what do you mean by that statement?

>>135748514
just because we don't want morality enforced by the state doesn't mean we have none, faggot.

>>135749445
There are plenty of Christian conservative Libertarians who do.

>>135745022
What do you think of the average voter in your country? How would you classify them? How do your countrymen respond to ideas of libertarianism (the idea of no state)?

>>135749675
If you believe in a state you aren't a Libertarian, cut and dry.

>>135748814
>insurance agencies fighting back against invaders with their own personal armies

My dick is diamonds

>>135749383
If you force someone to go to church they are not godly, you are infact doing an immoral act. The quotes were to show this.

>>135749744
I'm a minarchist ::))) so idgaf

>>135749813
I think more literature has to be dedicated in this regards. I intend to read Hoppe's book on defense but Ancaps needs to lay out the battle plan for a transition to an Ancap society

>>135749828
ok still a bit unsure about what you mean though

>>135749744
You think social values come from the state. Lol, faggot.

>>135749977
what? when did I say that. reread my posts.

>>135749954
It's in quotes because it's a contradiction. Forcing someone to be moral is not moral. If you do not make the choice yourself how can you be a moral person?

>>135750016
Maybe Im fucked.

>>135748059
Hey, Slovakia is Greenwich +1, so it's only a one hour difference for me.

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>wake up
>hop in lrg
>no mark passio

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>>135750277
Cool, wassap

>>135748514
>standards mean you're a stormfag
Hoppe would put Anglin to shame, so please don't associate us with those half-assed folks.

>>135749737
Slovaks are mostly lemmings in favour of social democracy, but the few activists are usually libertarians with conservative tendencies. There's some libcucks and commies, but they don't have enough drive.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E

>>135750327
Brighton is a horrible place, but you'd know that already if you hopped on the Discord.

>>135750474
Since most people are passive cucks who "dont mind" the government, how will we achieve a libertarian order? what must be done?

>Democracy - The God That Failed

Reading my first Hoppe book now. Holy shit senpai it's good. Do you guys hold him higher than Rothbard?

>>135750606
Disenfranchisement of people who don't own land.

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>>135750647
bad cropping oops

>>135750678
and how do we do that? These losers wont give up their only way of getting free shit easily

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>>135750639
I see hoppe as Rothbard's protégé

>>135750599
I'm on all the time. I just miss you when your on most the time I guess.

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how is he so based despite being one of (((Them)))?
How did he do it bros?

>>135750639
yeah, because he's got huWhite privilege

>>135750763
Are they going to fight me?

>>135751451
Possibly, but that doesnt answer my question unless you dont the answer yourself

>>135751144
He knew what (((they))) were up to and he was appalled. He is an honorary white for his disloyalty to the Jews.

>>135751613
We need a pinochet, the leftists need to have their rights stripped.

>>135751960
ethics apply to those applying ethics... they've stripped themselves of any rights

>>135752381
I agree, I guess I meant state granted "rights"

>>135751613
Just accelerate the misery within the society while opting out and establishing covenant communities protected privately. Soon enough the normies will be content with their own hides intact.
Get the SPLC to get more people fired and reach out to those who lost their jobs, then rebuild a new society with them. Revolt against the modern world.

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>>135752822
Yeah I guess making it desirable to secede for the common folk would do it. But what does that mean? If you add more socialism we'll probably find ourselves in a situation where we can't opt out. How can we make the situation worse without trapping ourselves inside a socialist prison?

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Physical awooooooo!

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>>135751144
And he got fucked for it. Spent his Jew York years commuting everyday by train to work at the Brooklyn Polytechnic Institute. Then things got better when Hoppe arrived on the scene and they both went to Vegas.

I loved the PFS's panel on remembering Rothbard and Tom Wood's speech at this year's Mises U. about him as well. He was definitely a brilliant yet down-to-earth and laidback guy.

Hoppe also paid the price for his own intelligence. Habermas was impressed by him and it is likely that Hoppe would've become one of Germany's (and perhaps the world's) leading intellectuals at the Frankfurt School, but he started reading Mises by himself and realized what commie garbage bullshit Habermas was spewing.

>>135754530
Tom woods talking Rothbard was great, haven't watched anything from Mises u other than a few clips.

I think it's hilarious that Habermas was training what would become the ultimate destroyer of Marxism.

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>>135754817
Yes, Hans ultimately turned Habermas's ideas upside down and royally fucked him with them. It's brilliant.

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>>135750639
Most of time, but I think Rothbard's writings are more kek-worthy. His entire book "Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature and Other Essays" in particular shits on so many groups and people (women's rights activists, environmentalists, communists, left-libertarians, democrats, RINOs) that you can't contain the laughter during some segments.

Rothbard's overall career and life seems, to me, superior to Hoppe's. However I think Hoppe is the *living* philosopher/economist which I hold with highest regard.

I think it's too bad Rothbard died in '95 without reading Democracy—The God That Failed. I am sure it would have been yet another seismic shift in his way of thinking.

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>>135750618
Idk Keynesian economics worked pretty well in post war Europe for a while

>>135755432
I guess you've seen his interview with Tucker. I wonder what that guy really thinks of Hoppe, being the guy all the "alt-right" guys cite and him being such a left libertarian.

>>135756280
Hoppe burned Tucker in the corax conference.

Called SFL Stupids for liberty and Tucker a "foe".

Everyone applauded excepting Kokesh I guess.

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>>135756280
>>135756572
Wait wat

Tucker interviewed Hoppe? Or Habermas?

>>135756572
>Called SFL Stupids for liberty
KEK

>>135756826
Tucker interviewed Hoppe, I thought you knew because they talked about Hoppe's early days a lot

>>135756572
Ha! It's there video of this?

Oh wait, I'm a fucking idiot. You're talking about Jeffrey Tucker, I was thinking of Tucker Carlson for some reason. Yeah, it makes sense he and Cucker no longer get along.

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>>135756250
you also know what works good for awhile? doing cocaine and adderall and finishing school work. does that mean because you finished your work you a good boi n dindu nuffin rung? no. its not sustainable. its more like: "hey goy keynesian economics is good!" later that day "h-hey rabbi, we need 50k in cash for the masonic lodge down the street to buy hookers and child sex slaves, d-do you think you could hook a fellow lucifer worshiping, blood drinking, satanist? thanks rabbi"
thats how it really works. it has nothing to do with you.

When did 4chan become SJW? Or is it just asshole nigger mods abusing power? Literally got banned twice because I used the word "nigger" in a sentence relating to the thread topic. Also seen trump posts, and other off-topic shit in a video game thread, but mods don't touch those. Only when I say nigger do they crawl out of the woodwork.

>>135756962
I hope they start releasing videos of the speech soon cause it was quite radical even for Hoppe's standards.

He usually talks about his conservative views in a hypothetical private property society but in this speech he actually gave 10 "points" on how to reach freedom and advocated for stopping immigration today between other things.

Also he mentioned private cities as a promising method of achieving his goals during the Q&A and that the ostracizing in covenants does not necessarily need to be about contracts but about making the life of the degenerates impossible if there wasn't contract, using the influence of well liked individuals within the community.

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>>135757315
I think the speech he gave is going to be the same he gives on the alt-right later in September. What were his ten points if you can remember? Also, how much does he like the alt-right?

>>135757204
I've never been banned and I outright call for violence. Many niggers, many faggots.

>>135756992
Lol, I wish Carlson would have Hoppe on, I'm sure it'll never happen.

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>>135757458
He likes some members of the alt right and claimed to be in contact with many of the "leaders".

He's disappointed in Spencer, who went to see Hoppe in a conference 3 years ago, for going full socialist.

I have all his speech basically in notes, but at my house, will post them later.

By the way, another thing that I already had my suspicions about but got kind of confirmed in his speech, Hoppe does not see the NAP as the "NAP will solve it" resource many people tend to adhere to, he, like me and many others here, is more focused on incentives and praxeology than unversally shared principles.

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>>135758391
Sounds great honestly. Spencer did sell out, having him at PFS was a huge mistake. I guess he's in touch with Jared Taylor and other huwhite nationalists, etc.

>Hoppe does not see the NAP as the "NAP will solve it"
Awesome, he's really not pussyfooting around when it comes to having our way against the degenerates.

I look forward to reading your notes, Maltabro.

>>135745022
https://youtu.be/RxRlKpPUJBI
What did he mean by this?

>>135748514
Shut the fuck up you communist rape baby. I cannot believe this fucking country still believes in socialism after years of horrible failure.

>>135759064
I hope they paid for that flag.

>>135745022
OP, new to the thread but not the libertarian way of thinking. What is the libertarian solution to decreasing our current big government environment? It seems that one would need to change it from the inside, no?

>>135759765
We need to support secession movements and engage in populism.

>>135759765
Malta has it right, promote secession, especially from multinational unions like the eu, and populism, rallying the masses against the state is the way to do it.

Brexit was a great example of that. Tremendously anti-democratic (17 million Brits voting against the selfishness of 500 million jewropeans)

>>135745022
Isnt paleoconservatism more close to original conservatism like monarchism? Not this classical liberal bullshit you advocate.

>>135760422
All of us in this thread are paleo and mean, fellow huwhite.

>>135745022
libertarians cannot be right wing because they are individualists, which makes them inherently hedonist left-wingers, regardless of how edgy they act

>>135760917
Lurk more faggot. Also, all right wing ideologies are based on the the individual. Take monarchy for example. The system is centered on the individual ruler. Leftists are collectivists.

Austrian vs. Anglo-Saxon economics. Theoretically, the Austrian economists are correct and the Anglo-Saxons are charlatans. In practice, the Anglo-Saxon economists are correct (even if unconsciously) while the Austrians are naive fantasists. Let's try to understand why.
Theoretically, everything the Anglo-Saxons teach is illogical horseshit, which has by now been exposed a thousand times over in innumerable Austrian school publications (Henry Hazlitt's Economics in One Lesson is a good starting point for the uninitiated). And yet, not only do the Anglo-Saxons completely dominate at the practical level (and even in a majority of the academies), but it is hardly even possible for us to imagine a future in which they wouldn't. We have here a state of things in which correct theory and practice are diametrically opposed (whereas in all other advanced fields they line up perfectly), and this fight between them has been raging for well over a century now. Why is this happening, and what can be done about it?

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>>135760917
No true scotsman

>>135761131
Let's start with the theoretical issues. The fundamental mistake of the Austrians is that they suppose that the only thing that's circulating in an economy is MONEY. They see only money, they analyze only money, and they are surprised when their analyses and policy recommendations are ridiculed and ignored in the real world, where they are simply inapplicable. Because in the real world, you see, it's not only money that's circulating, but also RESSENTIMENT. Success generates, not only money, but also resentment, resentment which must be somehow dealt with if the society in which your economic principles are to be applied is to continue functioning properly instead of fall to pieces. In the old days, ressentiment was dealt with by brute violence, plain and simple. Slaves were envious of their masters' prosperity, and so when this envy flared up and threatened the civic order, the masters would bring out their clubs and start the beatings. In ancient Sparta, for example, where the slave to master ratio was 7 or 8 to one, the people had to turn their society into an armed camp, open 24/7, 365 days a year, we never close "because everyday someone somewhere deserves a beating", in order to retain a semblance of stability and control over things. The masters LITERALLY BLED on a regular basis in order to be able to enjoy their prosperity and success. And is it any different with the modern masters, 50% or more of whose output is being regularly confiscated by the state to be redistributed, in one way or another, to the modern-day slaves so that they'll keep the peace? Whether you bleed literally or figuratively, ressentiment will have its portion, and the only thing you can do about it is man the fuck up and pay up, all the while (hopefully) realizing that it is you who are responsible for its occurrence, and that that is the price you have to pay for your success.

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>>135761185

And this is where the Anglo-Saxons come in. Their job is to concoct an absurd monstrosity of a pseudo-theory whose purpose is to bury deep beneath layers of impenetrable jargon the brute fact that resources must be somehow taken from the successful and redistributed to the failures to keep the economy from coming to a standstill in waves of strikes and violent protests, and the society from exploding in all-out civil war. Let me repeat this, for the benefit of the Austrian supporters and apologists who have their heads in the clouds and hence are hard of hearing: Austrian theories, when applied, pure and unadulterated, in an advanced democratic economy, would lead to CIVIL WAR. Therefore, they are not only empirically false, but also theoretically, since the economies created by the Anglo-Saxons, though grossly inefficient compared to your utterly fantastic pie-in-the-sky models, are still at least functioning, and therefore producing far more than both the little Austrian simulations running inside your computers, and a society in which the Austrian model has been applied and caused it to disintegrate.

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>>135761256
So ultimately, the problem we now face is two-fold. On the one hand, whoever studies the magical economics of the Anglo-Saxons becomes a buffoon who thinks that 1-1=11. And, on the other hand, whoever studies from the Austrians becomes utterly unfit to do anything in real life besides... study the Austrians. What we need is for the Anglo-Saxons to drop the lies and the obfuscations and state the cold, hard truth about what's happening (which would require them to understand it first, which would entail their reading, among other things, the Austrians), and for the Austrians to acknowledge that psychology (in the form of ressentiment) is just as important for the practical applicability of their models as pure economics, and that it must be somehow dealt with since there's no way around it. Only then would we get a real science of economics that would be able to place both violence (in the form of the police, which does indeed play today, to a small extent, the role of the Spartan hoplites) and redistribution on the scales and arrive at the most practically realistic and economically efficient balance. But these are not considerations for the economists of today, since there exists neither the power nor even the will to enforce them in a democratic context, but for those who will preside over such matters as leaders and economists in a future kingdom of Overmen.

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fuck all of you morons. thanks

/leaves thread

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>>135761131
What the fuck? So by your logic democracy is fine? Just because it's preached everywhere?

Nothing can be done about it, we just have to wait.
>>135761185
Fuck off with your ocpypaster you literally lied in the first line of text you wrote. AUSTRIANS ANALYSE HUMAN BEHAVIOUR. HUMAN BEHAVIOUR FORMS THE ECONOMY.
>>135760917
It is in my individual interest for the white race to not get genocided, check mate.
>>135760422
What is classical liberal bullshit? Monarchy is closer to an-capitan than any other form of goverment. Minarchy is a sort of monarchy.

>>135745220
>Tfw live in Cantwell's small town
I can't wait to bump into him at market basket. Kek

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>>135761485
I wonder if it's awkward for the e-celebs when they rant about nogs and kikes on the internet and then see minorities as cashiers or cooks. I'd be paranoid about them spitting in my food at restaurants.

>>135761616
Well, we both live in a 95% white town, I see a non white every other day.
>Tfw non white
Maybe I shouldn't meet him ;_;

>>135761849
Nah man, he's probably cool. He had That Guy T on his show and they were both discussing kikes and nogs like they were two Stormfront pals. Remember, for all his fashy goy tendencies he's still a libertarian.

>>135761849
Some niggers are ancestors of white rape babies so that's the percentage that's intelligent.

>>135761616
It's not bad, I'm pretty outwardly racist at least with people I know. I don't have any problems. I don't even think most people are offended by the stuff but rather they feel obligated to be offended. Once someone is open about it they feel no need to PC cuck about it unless they're a real hard Lefty. The brown people I know find it funny when I call them racist names.

>>135762159
Use your non-white privilege as much as you can against roasties and SJW cucks.

>>135762422
Lol I don't have non-white privilege. I'm just "that crazy white guy" to everyone in town. My way is just to be alpha about it and not apologize. Once they realize you won't cave to their commie ostracism they leave you alone.

>>135762647
Ups I meant to reply to the other guy >>135761849 and not you.

But I'm glad you put those commies in their place.