American EXpat Living in Switzerland AMA v2

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Link to yesterday's thread.
>>135552406

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Are there any purple cows? Pic related.

>>135630528
this is quite relevant to me considering i have recently met someone who has just come over from switzerland, from near zurich.
ill bump the thread for you, perhaps ask a few questions too if they come to me

actually, what are the people like?

How can you like this country with all the shitskins and other immigrant scum we have. At least back in America you can fuck off to some remote mountain. Here the crafty peasants have paved the way for the niggers to spread to every single valley possible.

>>135630877
>135630877
Purple cows were a mistake.

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Do the Swiss like each other? like there's no conflict between them the way Belgium has.

>>135631018
My knowledge about Switzerland:
>Rich
>Neutral during WWII
>Mountains
>Best chocolate
>Purple cows
Am I getting it right?

>>135631091
only germans are swiss, french and italians are worthless

>>135630877
I have not seen one haha, but the milk is wonderful here :)
>>135630907
Very kind, open as well to some degree but they also like their private, quiet time.
You won't hear music blaring from homes or cars like in America. I like that calmness.
>>135630954
I know my friend but in America things aren't too good either. Most people here are fed up with them, we could be Greece or Italy where they have to take them in if they land foot there. And the worst part is that they are rude as fuck, and don't even bother to learn the language.
>>135631091
No not at all
>>135631353
Negative.

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>>135630528
use mit dir du schofseckel.

I already told you yesterday we don't want burgers in Europe.

>>135631542
Pic related.
>>135631676
But I'm Swiss resident, secondly why not? Especially since I left America because I was not feeling like i was welcomed nor I like the direction of the country. Military meat shield and so forth as I said yesterday

>>135631816
>Especially since I left America because I was not feeling like i was welcomed nor I like the direction of the country
What did you not like about USA?

What is your ethnicity?

>>135631816
>But I'm Swiss resident, secondly why not?
Im guessing he wants a strong uniformed hierchial society where everyone knows their place and purpose.

>>135630528

Was the application process difficult to become an expat?

How much experience in your field did you have before starting the application process?

Any tips for a high skilled worker? (Architect here)

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>>135631676
I have it on good authority that you Deutschfriends love meat

is easy to immigrate to swissland?

What direction do you think switzerland should take?
Globalist?
Very open to immigrants?

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>>135630528
I've fallen in love with Lauterbrunnen since I first watched Jeb Corliss' "Grinding the Crack" wingsuit video several years back.

I will go there one day, hopefully, sooner rather than later.

How's the beer?

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>>135631816
"Expat" or whatever you fucking call yourself, youre a fucking IMMIGRANT stealing a well paid job from an EIDGENOSS.

FUCK OFF TO THE US

>>135631978
Thanks, norbro.

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>>135630528
I was just like you 20 years ago. I'm leaving here for good in 3 weeks. You will never be accepted and will learn to hate the Swiss.

Does Switzerland have good castles? If not then what country in Europe has the best castles

>>135631816
You are intolerant while expecting tolerance. You tell others to not visit Europe becouse of their ethnic background while you are a foreigner too. You are a foreigner and you will ever be one so don't take yourself the right to tell others not to come.

>>135632027
If you have an EU-passport and speak German and/or French fluently it shouldn't be too hard.

>>135632027
Fuck off Amerishit

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>>135632655
That doesn't mean we have less intiligent people here, it only means we got more less intiligent.

I accidentally tabbed out so my responses will be a little bit shorter for this batch. My apologies!
>>135631862
The overgloryfing of materialist culture. Think about Thanksgiving Day, it was designed by George Washington as a day of gratitude and thanks to God for all he has giving, but later in the night people brawl and trample others for more materialistic stuff. Maddening right?
>>135631896
Northern Italy, they left after WW2 due to persecution and went to Argentina, the country turned basically commie and we left to USA in 2002.
>>135631978
Completely understand and I will do everything to play a role in that hierarchy :)
>>135631997
If you have a vouch it's easier.
I worked in America for 1.5 years before I got fed up with all the troubles with the anti-Green energy lobby in America. Petrodollar lobby is real.
I don't know much about architect work here, Switzerland needs low skilled workers (farm hands and such).
>>135632027
Not really.
>>135632179
Very nice place! Beer is good and in general the food is much better quality here than in the States.
>>135632358
If I were stealing why are they looking abroad?
>>135632366
Where did you go wrong? I'm doing well here.
>>135632370
Liechtenstein
>>135632410
Civic Nationalist I see?
>>135632655
Interesting, thanks!

>>135632801
If you take the iq of the population and reduce it to a average iq it has declined.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO04pmW2Njk

>>135632105
Obviously not.

How easy would it be for an Englishman to emigrate permanently? I'm in londonistan at the moment and I fucking hate it. I'm a welder/amateur blacksmith and just got my driving licence, if that helps

>>135632366

this right here

living here since 7 years and you always feel like an outsider. i am from austria so it's not like the culture is that different. swiss people are just autistic

when i finished my studies here i will definitely leave too

>>135633012
Fuck off Anglo trash, you voted for brexit and now stay in your shithole.

>>135632899
>Civic Nationalist I see?
your ethno?
>Switzerland needs low skilled workers (farm hands and such).
Use seasonal workers while trying to mechanise the labour. Never give citizenship to invaders.

Fuck off we're full

>>135633053
Perfect, please leave soon.

>>135632899
>Northern Italy, they left after WW2 due to persecution
Why were they persecuted? Do you know what kind of ancestry your nortalian family has? Roman, Celtic, German, maybe a mix?

>>135630528

Third year Mech Eng here, specialising in manufacturing and materials.

I have EU Passport and I'm fluent in German. (EU Graded).

I did a semester studying in Stuttgart and hated it, couldn't live there full time.

I was looking at internships in Switzerland for next summer and the pay seemed good but I still have no idea if it's living wage, 2500 EUR a month?

Also, how's the workplace?

Are you working for a bigger corporation or a smaller sized business?

Is the firearm/defnce industry big?

Is the German dialect hard to understand?

>>135632899
>Completely understand and I will do everything to play a role in that hierarchy :)
Such a society will also give people a clearer goal to pursue.

>>135633161

i will you little mountain jew :) have fun with your little somali niggers. they will never leave you know because they only have shitholes to return too.

all the european people which made your country great will leave and you will devolve into nigerstan. enjoy

How long did it take you to get your residency?

And aren't Swiss work hours ridiculously long?

>>135633215
It sounds like a german on drugs.

>>135633269

standard is 42 hours per week but most people work 50+

>>135633124
I didn't ask to be brought up in this disgusting fucking city. I'm already an outsider here. I visit Zurich and Konstanz every year (just went 2 weeks ago) and it feels more like home than this place.

On average, how many non-whites do you see daily?
How much degeneracy?

>>135632410
g*rmans truly are insufferable lel

>>135633012
Why not move up North? I don't blame you for hating London, it truly is filthy.
>>135633053
Wow, why do you feel you failed to intergrate?
>>135633127
Northern Italian.
I don't make the laws my friend, secondly I'm not a low skilled worker.
>>135633133
I'm already here.
>>135633202
Got caught in POW camp and my grandfather escaped. Illegally went to Argentina, but there were many Italians favorable to the Axis so he got in.
I have no clue as to the mix but I have blonde hair, light eyes?
>>135633215
What's 2500Eu in Swiss cash?
Good workplace, i work on Hybrid engines.
Smaller, 20 or so people.
I don't know, but firearms are big here since there is mandatory military service.
Not really honestly.

>>135633420
The biggest degeneracy is people like you.

>>135633340
>10 hours a day
Fuck that

>>135633250
Agreed my dear friend :)
>>135633269
A little less than a year. I work 40.
Average is 40-42.
>>135633420
Zurich there is quite a bit, degeneracy isn't too bad though.

>>135633215
You don't even get a 3 room apartment in Zurich for under 2000 Euro. Foreigners coming here, working for 2500 a month is exactly why we hate you all. You take jobs for half or a third of the money because you believe it's a lot, driving wages down. Stay where you are.

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>>135630528
Here's a little longer one for you.

I was born in Switzerland because my mother tried to flee communism with one of her friends and went over there on a tourist visa. So eventually I pop up and live there for 8 months. We are two weeks away from getting political asylum and suddenly we get deported. Apparently my father, who came to us a few months after I was born, was needed by the communist government here and they got in touch with their buddies in Switzerland and after some bribes we magically end up back here. My father dies 1 year later in mysterious circumstances.
Keep in mind, both my parents were educated and respectful members of society here.
My mother's friend, who stayed got a kid of her own, but her child managed to get citizenship and grew up fine with no problems there. After a very long time my mother managed to contact her friend and she told me, her friend was at disbelief at how many foreigners started coming over and how fast they are making problems for everyone.
Now my question is: Is it true, that over the last 10 years the government started allowing the hordes in for a quick buck from Mr. Goldberg or this is only true for the worst of regions in Switzerland.
I was born in Aarau and afaik it's considered a middle class city.

>>135633515

I failed to connect to the swiss because of their coldness. They often give the vibe of machines instead of men with blood pumping through their veins. It's like they are neutered or something. The closer you get to the top the more autistic and jewish they become.

>>135633515
Lies. Swiss German/Schwiizertüütsch is hard to understand for a non-native German speaker like me.

>>135631676
Fuck off stupid subhuman European scum. I hope Europeans get wiped out and killed. Fuck Europe

I have $$$ and want to move to switzerland and move my business with me so I can continue to make $$$, I would like to learn the culture and language and maybe one day have some children there.

>Potential bonus
I would actually be able to own weapons there as opposed to here where its very difficult and expensive.

>>135633782
Your mothers friend is a foreigner their self, just like her child too.

>>135633924
oh yeah I forgot to ask my questions.

What is it like living there? How hard was it to start living there? Would you recommend it? How welcoming are the swiss?

>>135633969
Your English and your argument are questionable, Abdul.

Future mechanical engineering expat in Zurich.

The have offered me a gross CHF 91.000, bonus apart. How do you see it?

How are Wallisellen/Dübendorf to live? I'm planning to commute daily with the yearly ZVV Network Pass.

Great posts, btw

>>135633782
>Is it true, that over the last 10 years the government started allowing the hordes in for a quick buck from Mr. Goldberg or this is only true for the worst of regions in Switzerland.

Yes it's true, because of the Free Movement of People Agreement with the EU, the worst deal we ever signed.

>>135633743

I'm well aware of this, Dublin rent is almost as high as Zurich now and it's a shithole.

I really just want to live in a German speaking country for a while seeing as spent so much time learning the language.

It's only a 3 month internship though so don't shit yourself, I'll be back to steal your jobs once I get my masters.

>>135633743
de nuttesohn wird direkt zum sozialamt gah und abkassiere. 2500euro, was für en idiot.

>>135633782
Sorry for you story.
I can't say 10 years back because I haven't lived here that long but from what I have talked with others, yes the country is being flooded with non white migrants.
>>135633798
Hmm
>>135633799
I mean I guess, of course it isn't a cakewalk.
>>135633803
He said Burger not Leaf! Haha
>>135633924
You need a lot of capital to move here just because of money, you need to bring some skill to the table.
>>135634033
Living here is quiet and calm simple as that.
Not too difficult since I have a girlfriend :p
I have had success here with the national Swiss. From this thread there seems to be many who didn't connect

>>135634052
My English is questionable becouse it isn't my mother tongue and my argument is useful since it's true.

>>135630528
AMA!!!!

Fuckin reddit fag, this website is dead.

ITT
>foreigners being ignorant to other foreigners

i kek'd. go back to your countries, faggots.

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I will be back in 20 minutes!
15:30
STAY PUT I WILL ANSWE ALL THE QUESTIONS :)

>>135633743
In general, I agree. Every country is entitled to decide which immigrants they want to take in and which ones to deny. I say let us take in those who are willingly adapting to our culture, customs and languages and help our country to thrive.

>>135633782
Corporates employ a lot of foreigners because they can give them cheap wages. OP is one of those idiots too. And look at this guy >>135633215 lmao I wouldn't even work 50% for 2500 EUR.

>>135634241
Typisch Amerikaner halt, denken Sie können sich in fremde Nester legen und dann noch entscheiden wer mit rein darf und wer nicht.

>>135632410
White people have free world movement. Only subhuman niggers like yourself need to be kept out

ihr kack nazis werdet aber heftig getriggert

>>135634309

See >>135634112

It's just for 3 months and I'd like to see another country and use the German I've learned.

What do people working in Supermarkets earn every month?

How to gibmedats even survive in Switzerland?

As long as they don't force themselves too much into our business and integrate it's alright if foreigners come here to work. Just don't need another Nancy Holton or Islamists who refuse to shake hands

>>135633799
Go to a French area then? The French is much more comparable to normal.

t. Guy who had a Swiss-French gf

>>135634491
If you want to use the german you learned then visit Germany and not Swiss.

>>135634071

Please some Swiss or expat respond in good faith

>>135634380
Erbärmlich, aber was soll man erwarten.

>>135633329
This.

>>135634491
you can lok up average wages here:

http://www.lohnrechner.ch/

>>135634598
I'm living around that area. It's alright, pretty central you get to Zurich very quickly via train or tram.

>>135634071
Man 91000 is awesome, if you get a girlfriend it will make it easier as well since you can split it.
I'm not so sure of those towns in all honesty, I don't want to give you fraudulent information. I live in Fallanden.
>>135634237
Then don't come here?

>>135634572

Lived in Munich for a summer, Stuttgart for a semester.

Stuttgart was such a bleak place.

Munich was nice but expensive, I should've gone there for my semester though.

But overall fuck your country Hans, immigrants and the taxes to pay for them are going to walk you off the cliff.

>>135634598

seems a bit low for having a degree in engineering desu... i make about 60k without a degree working part time.

currently living in winterthur and commute too zurich daily with the pass. wallisellen and dübendorf are okay too, also closer to zurich than winterthur.

just make sure to live somewhere with decent train connections

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>>135634658

wtf I'm glad I didn't accept this internship now.

>>135630528
I can be there in 3 hours, want to grab a beer?

>>135634828
>Munich was nice but expensive
Swiss will be a lot more expensive

>immigrants and the taxes to pay for them are going to walk you off the cliff.
Our plan is to make them qualified workforce who pay taxes them self.

>>135634877

Is the whole meme of people driving to Germany to shop in Lidl using Euro actually real?

>>135631427
do you milk many swiss girls?

>>135635017

>Our plan is to make them qualified workforce who pay taxes them self.

Christ, there is definitely more than just fluoride in German water.

>>135634877
It's not low, it's actually pretty average to begin with.

>>135635035
Yes. And also for speeding

>>135634962
is that for working at the supermarket? It is known to be a notoriously underpaid job. You also have to do a lot of hours and overwork. It's a disgrace honestly

>>135635035

yeah it's true... many people do that because it really makes a difference for the mountain kikes. people hate them who live in the border cities because the swiss can't speak normal german and block the shops for local residents

>>135635134
kek fuck the local residents, they make money off of us. The border businesses on Swiss sides are the ones who suffer.

>>135634760
Is there open appreciation for the Rothschild's contributions to the country like Israel has?

>>135630528

>American

>second year of university

busted swissbro

>>135635204

whatever i can sympathize with them. you guys can be insufferable but i wouldn't expect self awarness from the average swiss person

>>135635134
It's actually a win win situation.

>>135635285
>you guys
You would do it too if deodorant costs 1 euro over there but 3.50 CHF youre just salty you dont live in a border area

>>135635035
>Is the whole meme of people driving to Germany to shop in Lidl using Euro actually real?
Yes, lots of people living near the borders go shopping in germany (not Lidl specific tho). It's way cheaper there and they have a larger VAT% too which can be reclaimable.

>>135635012
Haha maybe some other time my friend :)
>>135635087
There is birth control piss
>>135635044
I'm a Christian and I have a girlfriend.
>>135635223
Not that I know of.
>>135635280
?

>>135635365
And don't even think about going to a restaurant. It's a disgrace the prices, but at least it makes you a good cook!

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I'll be back in 30.
Something popped up at work!

>>135634309
Mate, try working 12 hours a day, 14 with travel for 18 euros.
That was my last job.

I'm American too, used to work in France (currently in Japan) I've been thinking about applying to study for an MBA in Switzerland. Would you recommend it? Anything you'd like to tell me relating to that?

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>>135635760
what do you think about Hitler and stuff?

>>135636300
stay in japan.

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>>135634088
Why would they sign a deal that would turn the best country in the world into Africa in 100 years.
They see what's going on in Germany/UK/Sweden etc and they still do shit like this, it's unbelievable.

>>135634132
So what's being done about this non white menace. Are they ignoring the obvious problems like Sweden/Germany/UK or they are aware that in 100 years Switzerland and all the other WE countries will look like the Middle East?

>>135636518

I fucking hate Japan. It's awful here. I also want to change careers out of amateur teaching into something decent which is why I was considering Europe and business.

>>135636756
we dont need more ignorand and arrogant americans here, go back to the states.

I find these edgy responses so satisfying. Why no try placing that fire on the non-whites, those of you auting out over an American contributing to your economy. LOL.

The Germanic anger at everyone but themselves in the throes of their self-cuckery is real.

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>>135634962
That's normal for an internship..
Fucking delusional college students.
>I WAN'T 10K BECAUSE OF MY BACHELOR/MASTER DIPLOMA WITH 0 WORK EXPERIENCE!!

>>135638674
OMFG it includes the employer covering lodging. They're not taking over the company, they're doing an internship, and they don't even pay fucking rent. "OMG so glad I missed that opportunity!"

I won't even address that tater directly. WTF?

>>135633798
It takes two to tango. If you fail to understand and adapt to what is considered polite and rude here, you will never be accepted and respected.
Many expats,especially educated ones, fail hard in that aspect.

IM BACK
SORRY!

question for swiss lads, I've been offered a job in Sion but I don't speak French. Do most swiss people speak/understand french or is it only relevant in romandy?

>>135630528
I'm in Zurich right now. Wanna blaze one at the lake?

>>135644128
The languages are very regional my friend.
>>135638631
Yeah it's quite silly.
>>135636607
I don't know, everyone is scared of saying their true feelings in public. They're penting up a lot of resentment.
>>135636320
The things Jews were doing in Berlin,Weimar Germany was detestable and worthy of being kicked out.
I can't speak about Economics because I don't know all the details.
But I think socialism + free market + strong sense of community and healthy image of what people should be (Hitler Youth, Female Hitler Youth). I think it's great.

>>135638674
>>135638934

But Swiss guys said that's less than minimum wage and welfare?

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>>135644422
No. kys honestly
Only degens smoke that garbage.

>>135634962
where was that at? Really shitty salary holy fuck. LOL

>>135644508
I mean it's an internship which is good experience, but don't expect to be able to save any money.(you shouldn't anyway)

>>135644591
Lol ok, wtf are you actually doing here though? Working for a big American Company like EY or something boring like that?

>>135641620

what are some examples of stuff considered rude/polite that an american would not know?

How can you afford the rent? An Austrian girl I know moved to Zurich and was paying something like 2400 CHF a month for rent and was barely scraping by as a result. She ended up moving back to Vienna

>>135644465
I know that they're regional, I speak german but would obviously have to learn the dialect of whatever canton I end up living in. However, Romandy is predominantly French-speaking so I was wondering how common french is outside of Romandy.

>>135634760
LOL Dübendorf is the city right next to yours are you fucking blind Xd?

>>135634071
That's awesome go for it. Those are good places to live. A lot of Green and close to the city, very quiet.

>>135644611
>>135644677

Thanks Swiss Bro's.

EuroCucks were calling me an entitled millennial for not wanting work below the poverty line.

It's a R&D Job at a university, but even the Corporate Engineering internships in Zurich were paying 2.5k CHF a month, is that okay to live on? (After Rent)

>>135645176
No.
Rent is around 900.-
Living a decent life is around 700-1000.-
Than all the bills.
Its doable if you're young. Many great opportunities follow from such experiences. If you eat at the university and live in a small appartement you will be just doing fine.

Do you still pay American taxes along with Swiss taxes?

>>135645119
French is only needed in the west. Sion is French. But for the rest of the country German will work.

>>135644765
No, I work at a small parent company.
I design Hybrid engines. This was just to get my foot in the order, my real passion is working at a bigger company or working on making solar panels more efficient!
>>135645063
The rent is doable if you don't spend out much.
I live with my girlfriend in her parents second house so we don't pay rent, so I got lucky in that respect :)
>>135645174
>thinking I go to Diddlekidsdorf
No my friend, but seriously I don't live there so I wouldn't know exactly :p
>>135645176
Yes you can! In my opinion do it as he said >>135645392
You're just there for work experience and you will get that!
>>135645738
No
>>135646054
Yes German basically is the defacto
Even the southern part knows it

>>135646229
That's actually really cool. We should appreciate normal immigrants like you. On a serious note, renewable energy is indeed the future.

>>135646229
>lives one year in Switzerland
>doesn't even know the neighboring cities

Fucking dumb Amerifuck you're a disgrace

>>135646780
ich muss sege er isch scho en homo. Gras isch ja voll ke sach...

>>135646864
De fetti siech generiert sicher huere vill Gsundheitschöste spöter mit sine 300 kg. Huere Ami het kei Ahnig vo de Schwiiz aber meint er ghört dezue

What university did you study in? If you don't mind me asking

>>135647220
ja gell macht es ama. uf pol meint er seg de herti shit. De weiss warschindlich nedemal wie euses System funktioniert.

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>>135646864
als schwule eidgenoss bini enttüscht vo dir.

>>135638674
exactly. I have a bachelor degree at HSG(one of the best universities in the world for mba) and got only 2k for my internship.

>>135647830
haha ah chum. Das isch de letzti ort wo so öbbis persönlich musch nä. Und au susch musches chille.

>>135630528

Do they take skilled tradesmen or are they just accepting people with degrees?

>>135646560
Thank you, I appreciate the support. I left America because they make no effort to change. We should use hybrid cars, solar panels on the highways (on the roofs it looks ugly) on the top of the big buildings as the entire floor of the top, and hydroelectric power as well.
>>135646560
He asked me a specific question, I don't know how much rent costs dummy. Yes it's beautiful but I don't know the specifics of cost of living and the people there.
>>135647376
Top right of Florida.

I have duel citizenship in Switzerland

Switzerland best country

>>135648005
I guess they could also take low-skilled workers like farm hands or something of that sort.
They're really big on Alternative/Renewable Energy.

>>135630528
fuck off were full

>>135647220
Immerhin schafft er. Z problem sind dia niggers wo an jedem schwiizer bahnhof gsehsch und mit lutsprecher telefoniaren.

>>135648567
I'm already here though

>>135648623
>Das Gefühl, wenn man Hochdeutsch gelernt hat
>Schweizerdeutsch

It's like Germany's Mississippi/Cajun accent.

>>135630528
My family is from Basel and they moved to America in the 1930s

It makes me sad thinking I could have been born a mountain jew

>>135648623
>ia niggers wo an jedem schwiizer bahnhof gsehsch und mit lutsprecher telefoniaren.

di asylanten eriträer

>>135649190
Even compared to the Alemannic accents it's pretty fucking weird

>>135649492
die sauhünd hassi am meiste. dBulle raided die immer im park nebem züri hb. Die Drogehünd sind easy guet. Aber denn rüerets all droge in Fluss und ja das wärs gsi. Dreckspack.

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Question to all medpacks around here, friendly and non friendly, i'm kind of taking in consideration the prospect of getting a job and moving to swiss cheese heaven
>inb4 get out
No you first

I was mainly looking into logistics and heavily industrialized areas, i make 100 to 130 delivery notes a day ranging from all kinds of shit, i was wondering what are the main cities to look into??

Do the swiss accept english and italian as languages or do i need to learn german?

>>135630528
I'm so fucking jealous. Is it as heavenly as it looks? Also, how the fuck did you learn German in one year?

>>135650598
try ticino, or basel and zurich. everyone under 40 speaks english but in rural cities its not common so try the bigger ones

>>135630528
Are you a Jew?

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>>135650804
thank you, my pupper would love the mountains , every weekend up a new crest or pass, it's truly a beautiful place to live.

>>135650740
I didn't learn in one year I started to learn it sophomore.
>>135650831
No, Christian

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>>135650804
i know a guy that works near Stabio, and it's such a nice industrial area there's everything

from battery to chemicals, lots and lots of industries there, basel is on the other side of medland, but i will keep looking.

>>135651115
So two or three years? Still a short amount of time.

>>135630528
I studied at the ETH in Zurich. Switzerland is one massive clusterfuck of people and assholes.

Americans fit right in there.