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American Expat Living in Switzerland AMA

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As the Subject suggests, AMA about living in Switzerland.
A little background.
>25 years old
>Live near Zurich
>Studied Mechanical Engineering in America
>Moved here a year ago
>Speak German because I learned back in my Sophmore year of University

AMA!
And yes I love this country.
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when do you go back?
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>>135552471
I'm moving to your country in 2 months tops

finally got a job that pays well
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>>135552406

What's the most expensive thing you've bought?
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did you go to escape, cause there is no escaping the horde
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QIc9nHu94g
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>>135552471
Hopefully never! I have a work visa at the moment and I have a girlfriend and that's going well.
Why are you so angry at me being here? do you prefer the Arabs and Africans in Zurich?
>>135552758
Learn the language :)
>>135552868
Lunch! Haha but seriously nothing much just furniture and an old VolkswagenGolf
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>>135552406
>Near Zurich

Winterthur?
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>>135553345
>Zürii isch scho geil, aberr Winti isch dä gäilscht!
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>>135553783
i dont speak kraut boy

I'm just asking because I stayed in Winterthur for a bit and it was really nice
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>>135553063
Sort of as well, America wasn't cutting it for me. Only work in the cities.
>>135553345
No my friend, 20 minutes from Zurich.
>>135553783
Do you enjoy it here? Do you think I'll get a passport if I marry?
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>>135552406
Are you me???
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>>135554342
My uncle married a swiss woman and got a passport.

Be prepared for super strict vetting tho
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>>135554346
How the hell did you get into Lichtenstein? I wanted to go there as well (and Southern Germany) but only got offers from Berlin which I rejected.
>>135554539
I love my girlfriend so I'm not using her of course, but I would wish to get a passport. I went back to America so see family and I couldn't stand living there again man.
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>>135552471
We don't want him back. Is murder legal there?
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>>135553118
it was a joke. I met yesterday an american in supermarket club in zürich, u werent there?
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>>135552471
underrated.
>>135552406
what is near zurich for you?
also demfall chasch schwiizerdütsch?
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>>135554342
>20 mins from zurich
that is not zurich my friend that is abroad
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>>135552406
It's a rich beautiful country, I'm considering a move, but the upfront cost for rent and other shit is very high, gotta save up a little more and then try it.

What is your experience with the locals?? How are they??
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>>135552406
>Speak German because I learned back in my Sophmore year of University
Claims to """speak""" German after learning one year in university

wew
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>>135555160
No I just say that I have Swiss residency, people here hate Americans. Seriously, they think that individual Americans citizens are at fault for the refugee crisis (because of Middle East wars and shit) but they fail to understand that Americans were completely lied to. >>135555195
Fällanden.
>>135555291
You wouldn't know if I didn't say Zurich.
>>135555351
Nice unless you're American or swarthy.
>>135555411
You're quick to judge, I have a good handle on the language. I learned outside of University and I speak well enough to do business and have a girlfriend :)
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>>135554947
Why do you prefer living in Switzerland instead of the USA?
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>>135556243
You are a traitor. Your only redeem is the rope.
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>>135556447
Life is more calm, the people aren't savages, the scenery is beautiful, people have a healthy image of how the sexes should act and so forth.
>>135556641
Why are you mad? Explain without sounding like a child.
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>>135557281
No matter what you do, you will never be a swizz, like your children will not be swizz, as their children will not be swizz. You are cultural, social and at the end even a genetic virus
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>>135556243

>You're quick to judge, I have a good handle on the language.

Yeah but no. Fuck off.
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>>135557908
I'm white, I fit in well. Thanks for your concern however! It sounds like your mad because you don't have any marketable skills.
>>135558189
Stay in your lane Paco.
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>>135552406
Get out were full
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>>135552406

fuck off

We're full
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>>135552406
Serious question.

Should educated white people in America/Canada just leave for a European country that doesn't stuck? On paper, some of their countries look good, but expensive. This country is just Singapore 2.0 now.
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>>135558539
I hope to stay here! Probably will since my job is needed and I have a girlfriend. I would agree that we are full from Arabs and Blacks.
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>>135552406
Best Swiss chocolate and where to get it...?
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>>135558430
>I fit well
no you don't as you state yourself ITT. You are delusional and you will end like all those where they not belong, an alcoholic hanging from his own belt
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>>135558611
I'll respond the same as >>135558539
With >>135558707
>>135558617
Educated and you must know the language, yes I would say to move. No one can make the case that the native Europeans weren't White. This can't be said about White colonies. Move if you still look European.
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How does the average Swiss feel about the refugee crisis?
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>>135558707
Strawman you faggot. Get out and take your baseball burger with you
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>>135558879
>>135558879

YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH I ENVY YOU

IM A VERY VERY JELLY RIGHT NOW.

I'm in california, and I hate it here.
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>>135558879
>Educated and you must know the language, yes I would say to move. No one can make the case that the native Europeans weren't White. This can't be said about White colonies. Move if you still look European.

Extremely stupid reasoning. I don't care what SJWs say.

Is quality of life better there or not?
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>>135558826
Auer, Geneva.

But seriously the best chocolate makers are in Paris.
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>>135559222
>But seriously the best chocolate makers are in Paris.
*best halal chocolate makers
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What is the best canton and why is it Bern?
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>>135559222
Really? Any recommendations?
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>>135559343
Patrick Roger
Jean Paul Hevin
Michel Chaudun
Pierre Hermé

But there are many more. Check this article out:
https://www.google.fr/amp/www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2011/04/27/is-paris-new-capital-chocolate.amp.html
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>>135552406
Great, more foreigners to water us down. And its not about white arabs or black, its that you are not swiss and never will be. You cannot learn to be one like you arrogant americans think you can. Thus you will always be a alien and people will speak and hang out with you out of cortesy, but in their inner they will always know that you are not swiss.

And advice from luzern : go home
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>>135558993
burger here but moving to Geneva soon for work. I tell people I'm transitioning to Swiss lol :) They like it. Looking to stay hopefully. Find myself a nice Swiss girl and plant my thick seed in her. Gonna be great.

See you soon fellow countryman! I LOVE BEING SWISS NOW!
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>>135556243
Still better than all those German subhuman immigrant scums but unless you learn Swiss German you will always be out of place.
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>>135559701
>Geneva
>Switzerland

Prepare for a surprise
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>>135559701
Lol bait.


Seriously though, you don't want to pollute your northern european genetic line with a swarthy southern alpine mogolied Swiss girl
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>>135558935
Personally : bad for them, but they are rats fleeing a sinking ship looking for the first class fery.
Overall : muh poor nigger chilruns ! (Cities)
Coutrysiders either dont care or apply human feels where possible in a sensible matters.
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>>135559747
Why so mad about german immigrants? You and your country is german them self.
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>>135552471
>>135558539
>>135558611
>>135559667


I will never understand why Europeans hate white Americans moving to Europe so much but openly welcome Arabs and Africans.
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>>135560010
What are you doing on 1. August
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>>135560026
No its not, contrary to you niggers always claiming it is. We are helvetic culture, we are free of guilt.
Unlike germans the swiss, although cold and reserved have true character among eachother while germans live for work and ballerman and the rest they spend in cucked self pity for muh missing identity.

Germans will defend their cucked state
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>>135552406

how much do you make per month?
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>>135560337
I don't think anyone who posts here would welcome Arabs or Africans.
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>>135560377
Not sure, ill hang with gf in (((basel))) but i hope i can go to luzern to my parents with her.
Would be cool to be at the 4waldstätter when the fireworks pops
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>>135552406
off topic but about this piece of shit nation:
>be me
>go to zurich today
>sit in a cafe
>look to my left
>see a 9.5/10 with a disgusting nigger
>get hungry
>leave
>go to a restaurant
>look around
>see nigger with his obviously half black daughter
>look around to spot coal burning mother
>at least an 8.5/10
>leave
>take train home for 30 minutes
>walk home
>see two 13-14 year old white girls with two 13-14 year old african niggers
>killme.jpg

I'm not a native swiss guy but this country is fucked and cucked beyond imagination. Sad.
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>>135560611

I agree but Europeans, even no-borders leftist types, always seem so much more adamant about Americans moving to Europe, and not Africans and Arabs.
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>>135552406
Canadian expat in Zug here.
So far so good
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>>135560634
Basel firework is tomorrow mate. I'll be there too
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>>135560337
Thing is we dont welcome them, they come here supported by their 1% lefty friends.
If you criticize this profitable politics endeavour you likely lose social standing in some circles
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>>135558935
They hate it, publically they wont say It though.
>>135558993
Your an assblasted loser with no rebuttals.
>>135559013
I feel for you brother.
>>135559173
Yes even with these Third world immigrant shits.
>>135559337
You'll find Rage there lol, I don't know a lot about Bern :p

>>135559667
People here have already taken me in as a Swiss, eat shit. You have no rebuttals.
>>135559747
Of course if I come here it's to fit in with the Swiss. I look very much like them (blonde,light eyes) I'm learning about the history and the culture through talking to people. They invite me to their homes they ask me about America, we go fishing and such. I'm indistinguishable from others Swiss until you hear me speak, which I'm working on :)
>>135560337
Cognitive Dissonance.
>>135560010
But in private they hate them too.
>>135560604
5250 Swiss
>>135560727
Zurich is bad my friend.
>>135560759
Welcome :)
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Are AMA threads even allowed? I hope you fags are reporting this redditry
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>>135560769
Noice, gonna go to tension though.
You living in kleinbasel ? Tfw i live 800 from where the somalis have stabbed that guy. Somalicide now
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>>135561017
>5250 CHF
topkek
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>>135560745
Well for them America is evil because of its involvement in wars and shit. And they don't distinguish between the government and the people of couse, but that's a trait that can be found on here as well.
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>>135560759
Save me. How do I move to the coziest country on Earth?
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>>135561186
Nah I'm from Aargau but I have many friends from Basel so I'm a lot there
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>>135559593
Thank bro
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>>135561138
Why not? It's very political, I live in Zurich. The most populated city in Switzerland. Ask me anything!
>>135561274
I started working here nearly a year ago, it'll increase to 6500 in the coming months. The first year here was basically a test if I could be an efficient worker. They've congratulated me for my work. Thankfully I live with my girlfriend who her parents let us use their house, we don't pay rent to them just groceries
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>>135561274
Is that much for a average Swiss?
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>>135561442
Get a degree, apply for some obscure specialist job and apply. That's how I did it.

There is probably a way to do it without a degree, but from outside the EU you need to be really desired by your employer.
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>>135561274
Why is that funny?? He makes almost 4600 euros
Or
5420 dollars

Thats a shitton of money
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>>135561420
Fucking yes, they think American people means American government.
>>135561442
Get a good degree.
>>135561576
It's literally average wage here.
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>>135561672
See his other posts, he's after my head for no good reason.
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>>135561017
See ? The "eat shit" attitude is why you can go home.
Go do mandatory service then we can talk about you "learning" culture, we dont need more foreigners pretending to be swiss.
You are foreign blood, concept lost to you kike infested wannabe europeans.
Also good for you that you mistake our hospitality for "making you swiss" pathetic !
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Is Switzerland pozzed with social justice?
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>>135561771
What are you talking about your mandatory military training is nothing more than some camping in the mountains, don't pretend you are hardcore
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>>135561876
Her face, it's so big.
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>>135554947
;)
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>>135561949
I like big faces and i can't deny
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>>135561017
>Of course if I come here it's to fit in with the Swiss. I look very much like them (blonde,light eyes) I'm learning about the history and the culture through talking to people. They invite me to their homes they ask me about America, we go fishing and such. I'm indistinguishable from others Swiss until you hear me speak, which I'm working on :)
topkek, this has to be a fucking swiss troll.

I live in nyc and I've never met a foreigner, european or otherwise, with an indistinguishable accent.
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If you ever apply for permanent residency: Would you buy guns, and if yes which ones and where would you go shooting: Shooting clubs and/or private ranges?
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>>135561771
>wannabe europeans
T. triple language, fondue-culture with no art
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>>135561912
https://youtu.be/gpDMlIZXAzY
Hearsay
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>>135561672
>>135561689
That's not average for someone with a degree. Don't kid yourself

>>135561912
It has a traditional meaning

>>135562136
You don't need permanent residency to buy guns
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>>135552406
Are this Swiss as big of cunts irl as they are on here?
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>>135561755
Making some good dough and not even paying rent, livin the dream anon, have fun


Also i know income tax varies from canton to canton, how much do they jew out of you??
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>>135562437
Nothing wrong with what they're doing imo
What right has he to live in Switzerland? The same right a switzerfaggot has to live here, none at all
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>>135552406
>not even medkit
You have to go back ...
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>>135562104
>I live in nyc and I've never met a foreigner, european or otherwise, with an indistinguishable accent.
You have, you just haven't noticed them.

I've met a handful of Europeans who have accent-less generic North American English.
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>>135562437
They just dont want new worlders who believe they can be Swiss
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>>135562548
I'm not just specifically referencing this thread. Every time i see a medpack, he is being a smug cunt.

Fucking mountian Jews.
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>>135562572
>You have, you just haven't noticed them.
Yeah, this is the cliche that everyone jumps to, but it's simply not true. I know Europeans who have been here since age 12 and still don't sound completely amerian
You just have a bad ear
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>>135562261
Hesch Greni gmacht? Ich mues am Mittwoch in WK uf Bure. Pz Bat 29
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>>135562683
Oh, yeah. Well that's a combination of no high culture (four languages, no art worth preserving, etc) and the fact their bourgeois culture has stamped out most low class detriments.
They're probably told their whole lives that they've accomplished something by doing what every other nation could do easily
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>>135562261
I mean i'm all for mandatory service, i absolutely approve of it, but there's no reason to use it as an argument against an educated individual that contributes to the swiss economy unlike all the browny folks the CH is taking in.
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>>135562740
Nei, artillere z biere (lel).
Aber eusi grenis würe dr bode putze mit dem abschuum i dem fade
Dr wiviuti machsch ? Bi bim zweite fengs
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>>135562414
>You don't need permanent residency to buy guns
Wrong. You need to have at least permanent residency (Niederlassungbewilligung C).
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just seeing some guys from Basel post. Any lads studying here too?
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>>135561771
Haha, you're mad because I'm more successful being a newcomer in OUR country. Deal with it.
>>135561876
The most you hear is I'm okay with refugees even though in public they hate them.
>>135561912
He hates me because I'm more successful than him, no worries.
>>135561988
Congrats my friend!
>>135562104
Okay nice for you :)
>>135562136
Yes I will apply for permanent residency. I will get guns and a plane since in the USA I got a license from flight school. My co worker has a gun because he's in a gun club. He invited me to go with him so we can track, it was a fun experience since I hunted in America :)
>>135562414
What would you say is average?
>>135562491
Not too horrible. It's worth every penny though. But don't even think about going to eat, they'll JEW you the fuck out.
>>135563171
What are you studying my friend :)
Alternative Energy here is a big boom
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>>135553783
Haha, winti olé
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>>135560026
You're basically niggers that don't notice that they fit in. It's the same when one of your specimen comes to Austria.

>>135560337
Europeans hate everybody coming to their country to stay and live there.
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>>135563331
STEM, either physics or mathematics masters (small departments, so I like to stay low-profile here)
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>>135557908
The Amish are Swiss, and their population has the highest birth rate in the US.
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>>135562941
Some things are just how they are, could i be a real italien while hating pasta or being cold as fuck or not having that italian passion ? Answer is no because it seperates us as people and thats good.
A pretender like usanon says "herpderp i am swiss because swiss talk to me see i am swiss haha !" He is not and will never be and every swiss will notice.
If he is a doctor or what not ok come and contribute, but dont be as arrogant to talk about things you cannot be
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>>135561017
>Of course if I come here it's to fit in with the Swiss. I look very much like them (blonde,light eyes) I'm learning about the history and the culture through talking to people. They invite me to their homes they ask me about America, we go fishing and such. I'm indistinguishable from others Swiss until you hear me speak, which I'm working on :)
It's called politeness and manners. I know that a burger can't understand since you guys are superficial in everything. However, this doesn't mean that you're not hated by them.
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>>135552406
AMeican black here,I'll be moving to swizzland too! Do Swiss girls like black guys?
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>>135563443
>Europeans hate everybody coming to their country to stay and live there.

If that's true then why aren't anti-immigration parties bigger?
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>>135563331
>Yes I will apply for permanent residency. I will get guns and a plane since in the USA I got a license from flight school. My co worker has a gun because he's in a gun club. He invited me to go with him so we can track, it was a fun experience since I hunted in America :)
Tiptop! Wilkomme i dr Schwitz!
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>>135561672
You need to consider cost of living as well or else numbers just mean jackshit no matter in which currency you convert it.
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>>135563000
Det beni au scho gsi. Letzt Johr det WK gha bide Art Abt 54. Das Johr isch au min Zweite.

>>135563023
You're right.

>>135563331
Average pay for someone with a degree is around 9000 CHF. That is a Swiss degree though and some cucked American degree like woman studies.
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>>135557908
Turn your real flag on, coward.
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>>135563331
Mate honest now, i cannot hate you because you are more successful since i have all those things you have here, i am happy.
But this is my country and the country of my forefathers, and not "our" country. I am a son of st jakob and thus have stake in the land just by being born here. I would bleed out for this spot while you would flee the american you are.
Fuck your attitude, fuck your arrogance, i say it again : you are an empty profit driven shell, not swiss, sad !

>lol guizeee heees jealous xD
Typical american response
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>>135552406
1. How are wages compared to local prices and rent?

2. i heard Zurich is kinda boring

3. Do you manage to save money?

4. how long are you planning to stay?
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I würd gärn nach winti zügle, wo isch es dört schön?
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>>135563443
Sei leise schluchtenscheisser, vor 70 Jahren wart ihr noch fester Bestandteil vom Vaterland.
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>>135563744
Good man, mountainfolk gets it ! It cant be this hard can it ?
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>>135552406

But we don't. Americunts ruin everything. Please go back to your fucking Alabama, fatso.
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>>135563771
libs =! europeans
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>>135560337
Wouldn't expect an African refugee to gun for the same job as an American with an education would.
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>>135563616
Oh i get it, that's the irk, the fact that he said he is swiss, i don't think he meant it like that famigliare, i think he meant tgat he is fitting in nicely, in the sense that he is not a nuisance to others. Ofcourse i agree you can't say I'm just like a swiss or look i cook ramen I'm literally japanese, that is obviously never gonna happen, all one can do is learn as much as it can about the history of the country the language and the culture and live life without being noticed as an outsider, that is the most helpful one can be to the inhabitants of that country, obviously in japan that's not gonna happen Caucasian people don't have coin slots eyes and will always be a gaijin.

It's important to mask yourself so you are not vulnerable to "attacks"
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>>135564016
Guete mah,i weiss as wm das dr dienst mengisch schiisdreck isch. Aber luegs so a : wenn d ordnig zemmebricht schaffe mir wieder ordnig, nur für ds isches no dah.
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I have family in Switzerland. They moved from Albania to Italy in 1992, saved a lot of money over a long period of time and then moved to Switzerland and work for some large company. They say it's very expensive but a fantastic country.
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>>135564617
Albanias are the absolute worst
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>>135564568
I welem Zug bisch bi de Artillerie?
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>>135564398

But most Europeans are libs, are they not?

If your premise is true, why are liberal parties the biggest in Europe?
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Did you bring the bill of rights from America to shove it up the ass of our government to stop them from sucking the EU's dick and finally make a stand for our people and our dwindling freedoms?
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Hes just a proxy or tourist fag,

Nobody who went to switzerland that is not schweis or a jew hates it there.

Everything is too expensive, a fucking currywurst would se you back like 20 euros, i think 22 franks. Also its impossible to understand people there, even if ypure fluentin hochdeutsch, they have a dozen different dialects they insist on speaking, and the turks and albanians are turbo, smug, kike tier snobs.

I love the country but for what it is, but i wouldnt want to live there. I wish thry werent cucked by italians and albanians.
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How hard was it for you to move there as an American?

I'm trying to go to Norway but it seems hard.
I need a good degree and somehow need to find a place to sponsor me that also shows no other person in there country can do that job?
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>>135564517
Good point but see
>>135563331
In other countries "this is ours now" gets your head bashed in.
Disrespectful imagination will bring this guy down on the bottom of reality, that he is not welcome.
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>>135557281
>healthy image
pic related

which state did you live in? why didn't try another state?
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>>135564675

Not really, Kosovo Albanians make up the bulk of shitty immigrants. I blame Yugoslavia. Albanian proper immigrants really are not that bad.
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>>135563983
Yeah a small 2 bedrooms is alnost 900 chf.

Very expensive living costs, the main thing that made me convert the currency was the fact that the guy before commented laughing, implying it's a shit pay, but it's not
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>>135563546
Sounds good but I got employment because of the Alt Energy projects going on here. Currently working on hybrid engines :)
>>135563616
I am contributing that's why I was hired for my profession. You are the arrogant one.
>>135563744
Haha if they hated me why would I have a girlfriend? Why am I always invited to the parents house? Trust me I'm doing well, thanks for the concern :)
>>135563752
Nope lol.
>>135563878
Thank you my friend! Enjoy the 1st :) !
>>135564016
I have a Mech E degree, secondly if it was so shit why was I hired? The pay increases every year, thanks for your concern.
>>135564105
I completely agree and totally respect that your grandfathers toiled the ground. This I will never claim. But I am here now and I enjoy it, I fit in well and I'm enjoying it, my contractor likes me and my work is very employable (Alt Energy). I will try and succeed in intergrating myself here. I said jealous because you were it explaining yourself, now I totally understand where you come from. But this is my county as it is yours and I will do everything in my power to power this country forward (pun intended) :-)
>>135564122
1.It's livable
2.It's calm if you find that boring
3.Yes I do because I live in the second home of my girlfriend's parents and we don't pay rent
4. 'Till death.
>>135564397
Haha, well smile and wave at each other in the streets :
)>>135564517
Yes I'm fitting in here. I love this country, I wouldn't do harm to it.
>>135564709
Forgot image my friend :)
>>135564816
I'm very honest in public when I'm asked. I can't vote so I try not to bring in politics, it's not my place.
>>135564858
You don't know much. The Swiss love our country.
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>>135564765
Ehemaligs 10/3 wird zum 49
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>>135564188
HRE =! Prussia
These are two different mentalities. If you're a true Austrian you've a certain understanding of the world which can't be reflected by Germans. That's the reason why I've never dated one of your expats. If she would raise my kids there is a chance that they don't perceive the world with the same understanding as I do, and therefore, they would be strangers to me.
>inb4 true scotsman
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>>135564813
The biggest party is non-voters but they aren't represented in the parliament.
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>>135565019
Those are also probably the people he would vote for once he has the pass
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>>135564913
I can't speak for other countries. I got acceptance for Germany and Switzerland. I graduated when I was 22ish, worked in USA for alt energy and was applying when I turned 24 when I couldn't stand that shit anymore. They hate Alt Energy in America, fucking petrodollar niggers.
>>135564967
Well yes it is ours now? I pay taxes and I'm intergrating, i would never claim that my grandfathers toiled the ground because this isn't true.
>>135565019
Haven't seen that here.
I live in fällanden. Zurich is the most populous city so naturally work here is easier to find.
>>135565419
If I'm on /pol/ why would I vote for that? I am Christian.
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>>135565188
You are german if you want it or not.
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>>135565073
>Haha if they hated me why would I have a girlfriend? Why am I always invited to the parents house? Trust me I'm doing well, thanks for the concern :)
Are you implying that women are patriotic? If my daughter would bring a yankee I wouldn't disown her either. There are worse choices she could make in today's God forsaken world.
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>>135565492
Do you think being an English teacher would be a decent degree to move over there?

It seems like besides STEM degrees theres nothing to move out of country
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>>135553118
>Hopefully never!
Kek, we'll destroy you soon with us just not including you in social outings and other stuff, because you're a fuckin american that can't talk schwiizerdütsch
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>>135565609
Stay out of Europe, we don't want the cancer of the world here.
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>>135565073
Its alright, we have no beef, but beware of the eternal swiss.
A lot of people start out enthusiastic but end up lonely and frustrated. Good luck.
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>>135565164
Vo dere Abteilig kenni niemerd. Besch letzt Johr au im August in Biere gsi?
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>>135565533
Most of your people have this understanding. I don't want to break it for you, since I've said everything on that topic, but let me put it like this. If you consider us Germans than we are superset of Germans but German Germans are another one and we don't share the same properties.
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>>135565755
Will not be going to Germany anytime soon faggot
What a shit hole country
go larp about nazis you fucking fags
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>>135565419
Hardly, if he likes guns. I don't understand why so many of my compatriots have such a bad view the US. Probably because of biased media who regurgitates everything from CNN without doing their own research.
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>>135565816
Neee sind st.galle gsi de wk im märz.
Hend alli verruckt gmacht.
http://www.fm1today.ch/video/?v=xzwNcyfLdPg
Normies henn alli angscht gha dr chrieg gächi los
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>>135565492
not which canton, which state back in the US. :)
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I got to live in Nuremberg, Munich, and Prague over the course of two years for a government exchange program regarding corrections and law enforcement. Fucking loved it. Now that I see how salty the Swiss betas are about Americans, I might see if I can pull some strings and work my way down there. It'll be a hoot.

P.S. I have never met anyone truly unfriendly to Americans in the aforementioned cities. Misunderstandings are quickly shoved off... a personality varies exponentially and those who limit their inclusiveness based on where someone is from is a genuine piece of shit. I would prefer if those types sat in the corner of their pub sneering at me while I make friends with those who have substance to their lives and a thirst for stepping outside their routine.
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>>135565880
Look how fast the nigger shows his true face if he aren't accepted. You are NOT welcome in Europe.
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>>135566148
>id RS müese
>in WK müese
>wenn nöd Zivi
>wenn UT stüüre zahle
hahaha absolut gfickt! Scho geil dasi d C-Bewilligung ha
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You're welcome !

That change from the african fucking arab and other shit invader.
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>>135558831
Well we know that this Switzer's cultural immune response is strong. Now if only he'd apply it in the real world.
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But you need to visit our mountain, this is the hearth of our nation.
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Anyone here studying at the ETH? Doing my entrance test in 3 weeks
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>>135566359
white immigrates are your best best

Why are germans so socially awkward
>if he arent accepted
go to a german board you fucking beta male if your so proud to be german
nope instead youll talk in english like a cucked faggot

every german ive met dresses like shit, is depressed and cannot string sentences together
almost any other foreigner has better english than you fucks
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>>135566367
Militär befreit geischt und seel. Wenn du geistig u seelisch wachse willsch denne nimmsch e forderndi funktion. Klar i verstoohs, mr mues vil ufgeh vom soziale lebe bis luxus, i bereus aber ke moment. I gloub neb em kameradschaftsgfühl isch nur no sex besser
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>>135561017
>5250 a month
wtf, do you work at Lidl???
This is some crap wage here. Are you sure you are not getting ripped off?

Do you know salarium Gehaltsrechner? you should check it out and see if you are getting lowballed.
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>>135566789
Jo sicher Ueli. I bruch keis militär um mental z riife. Usserdem hani mensche eh nöd so gern drum schissi uf kameradschaft.
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>>135566619
Americans aren't white, they are a mix of spics, niggs and kikes
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>>135565073
One question, which people are nice to you?

The friends and family of your girlfriend and your work collegues.

Any idea why they are nice to you? Because they have to. You don't have any own friends.

>>135566797
He is a dumbass, I already told him but seems he doesn't care about getting ripped off.

He thinks he is employed because of his skill when it's only about giving him cheap pay compared to a Swiss
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>>135566919
A-aber anon wetsch de nie mit dinerebkampfbruedere dir kante geh nach 48 stund übig ? Glaub mr isch geil.
Ich mein isch guet u recht weng anderi ned so magsch oder s problem mit dr autorität hesch. Isch halt ned jede bereit si wohlstand fürve begrenzti ziit z opfere um neui erfahrige z becho :(
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>>135567065
you cant talk in your mothertongue because the only thing your ancestors have done is gotten conquered and cucked in the 21st century

enjoy larping about immigration when zero people where talking about moving to your shit hole
cool tribalism over a fucked country
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>>135557281
>Life is more calm,
How?
> the people aren't savages
Unless you're a peasant you won't live with savages in any country
>people have a healthy image of how the sexes should act and so forth.
Do they? Most German and Swiss girls I've met are just more arrogant versions of American women, if that's possible
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>>135563331
>OUR country
You're just sad. Go back mongrel, leave Switzerland for the swiss.
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>>135565581
Congrats on ignoring everything else. As I have stated thanks for your concern but I'm doing well :)
>>135565609
No, they're not really interested in English. Try the Asian world with that.
>>135565710
We'll wave and smile at each on the streets and you'll never know the difference :)
>>135565815
Thanks for the heads up! Maybe it's that way because they don't realize how good they have it? Live anywhere else for a year they'll cry of joy coming back here.
>>135566020
Exactly..
>>135566325
Oh yes! Sorry. I worked in Florida! The reason I left the USA is because I want to make the engine more efficient using Hybrid. I worked on that in the USA for a little less than 2 years before the Petrodollar beurocracy bullshit started to hit us when we began to try to get out model out there. Got sick of it and looked for work in Green countries..
>>135566353
Nice those places are lovely. In Swiss Americans are hated can't say any other country :p
>>135566359
Yes, the Swiss don't like them either!
>>135566423
Yes my friend, I'm working on Alt Energy hopefully I'll be able to make the country more green! (Working on Hybrid engine)
>>135566499
Of course I have! I went last week and feeling that cold wind is wonderful!
>>135566797
I got payed little for the first year because it was a "testing year", it'll increase to 6250 in the coming months.
If I didn't work well this past year I would have gotten tanked from the company and bye bye Switzerland and back to USA.
>>135567157
Kek I have friends that are not of my gf or colleagues.
I met many people when I went hunting (I was spotting/tracking because I hunted in the USA).
Again thank you for your concern, all is well here!
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Who here Zug?
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>>135567157
Scho eso, sell er chrampfe u 5 10 jogr spöter wenns lisi drfouglofe isch ischer einsam :/ u nimmt iv wege depressione u so
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>>135560337
I dont mind americans, french, dutch, austrians and spaniards etc. As long as someone contributes and tries to fit in, I am okay with them. Switzerland is basically a parasitic country, helping rich people to avoid taxes and depriving the economies their money was generated in. Everry Swiss person I encountered so far was a passive agressive nicth that expects you to praise their country.
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>>135567371
still you should really tip of the authorities (anonymously to your current employer. Such wages drive the wages down for all of us)
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>>135567317
You'll know if you lived here or even vacation.
>>135567367
I'm okay thanks :)
Enjoy Spain my friend!
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>>135567312
You don't understand it right? Europe is german clay and we will unite it into a single country so we don't want mudshits from us over here.
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>>135567293
Suufe kei alk well i de gschmack nöd cha usstoh. Kei problem mit authorität, eifach nur kei bock uf de ganz mist.
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I have been to Andermatt and Sedrun for 9 days
Fucking beautiful country. It's very clean and calm. For my preference too calm tho.
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this thread reinforced my hatred of americans, jesus christ
this is just embarrassing and sickening
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>>135567580
>Everry Swiss person I encountered so far was a passive agressive nicth that expects you to praise their country.
Kek, true
>>135567586
>You'll know if you lived here or even vacation.
I haven't been to switzerland, but I've been to Germany and Austria and it was not as you say. I've met Swiss women and they were not as you describe them.
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>>135567718
>too calm
i can't understand people that LIKE fuckin overcrowded cities and 24/7 noise. Fuck all that shit, i need my silence to get some good sleep.
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>>135554346
R A R E

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R

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Man I am so glad this thread is not representative of Switzerland. Homoerotic military fetishists, people complaining "their" country is "cucked" because they saw a girl with a black guy and foreigners who glorify this place for reasons I still don't quite comprehend. Y'all can suck a big cock for all I care, I just hope your cancerous dispositions don't spread to other people and you don't have any offspring to pass them on to.
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>>135565419
I just had this week a discussion about government regulating working hours with a porto-fag from work. he came here once Switzerland introduced the personenfreizügigkeit treaty. he is extreme left and constantly talks about the poor refugees drowning in the mediterranean sea.
during the discussion he got angry with me, because I was pro-free-market, and he mentioned that he is glad to receive Swiss citizenship soon, so he can refute my arguments at the ballot box.

just anecdotal, but I often see EU and other immigrants on the left side. they come from shitty places to socialized Switzerland and want to make it even more socialized.
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>>135563771

Because they always accompany their anti immigration with some other fucking retarded shit that makes people go "nope".
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>>135564105
You sadden me, swissfriend. I have dreamed of living in Switzerland since I visited as a boy. Friendly, wholesome people. A strong community who cares about each other. Americans don't have that.
...Maybe I wouldn't be Swiss but I would make sure my children would be raised Swiss the best that I could. But now I see this is folly. I am cursed with American nigger culture and can never truly be accepted somewhere as pure and wonderful as Switzerland. I am trapped forever, thrall of the jews
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>>135567601
I don't care about anything your saying

Your arguing something no one is trying to argue and your country sucks dick
Regardless of muslims I'd still hate your stupid fucking country

How about yo go lift some weights and quit being a weird faggot whose trying to give his life meaning
dumb collectivist faggot
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>>135567371
>The reason I left the USA is because I want to make the engine more efficient using Hybrid. I worked on that in the USA for a little less than 2 years before the Petrodollar beurocracy bullshit started to hit us when we began to try to get out model out there. Got sick of it and looked for work in Green countries..
You're not welcome but I can accept this as a reason to move. It shows that you have no honor to your country but, at least, you've got a thrive on something.
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>>135567684
Wie gseit, tönt schlimm, isch schlimm aber wird normal u du wirsch härter, hilft dr nocher im witere lebe.
Mit em alk mues scho dumm sie wenn prsktisch 90% voor usgangs u zelebrierkultur mit alk verknüpft isch

Bisch kei aspie oder ?
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>>135567580
They don't understand, I didn't come from America to be a an Aldis cashier or something.
>>135567585
Do you really think so? Maybe I haven't noticed since I don't pay rent :p
Life is pretty comfortable!
>>135567718
Yes it is. Alternative Energy is big here(hence why I got hired)
>>135567813
I'm sure you speak of the American flags correct? I'm a Swiss resident :)
>>135567827
I don't know I haven't encountered anything too weird :p
>>135567833
And with the windows open at night so you get that comfy air
Wonderful!
>>135567924
Again this is not my position on political matters. As I explained to the guy you quoted.
>>135567899
I've got a guy on my ass for no reason on this thread.
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>>135552471
Fpbp
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>>135567924
>implying regulating working hours is something bad
i understand it's shit when you're in a position where you earn 200k and more..but normal employees? Don't turn this country into america, workwise
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>>135568063
>aspie
nö, nur introvertiert.
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EU over everything, my only meaning of life is helping to unite the EU under one banner and keeping amerishits out who believe they are welcome here.
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>>135567580
>t. butthurt Germancuck who wasn't welcome
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>>135567924
So get the swiss citizenship and help us defend our freedom from leftists goody two shoes!
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>>135556447
probaly because of niggers and spics, and of course Jewish cultured whites in the cities
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>>135568278
no
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>>135567943
>A strong community who cares about each other.
This is why you don't fit in.
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>>135568278
>EU over everything
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>>135568278
You're just like ANTIFA
Some fucking loser who wants to throw his life away to something to he can feel proud instead of actually carving a life out for himself and not falling prey to tribalism

Yes muslims suck but you're not a christ figure for shit posting on a anime board and larping over uniting the EU

Get your fucking life together and quit pretending your problems come from your country and not you being a fucking bitch
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>>135568059
Easy for you to say. Your country is currently in the process of being pissed away just like America in 1965.
>>135568148
Never!
>>135568150
Agreed! 35 hours would be good IMO.
>>135568278
Why do you dislike Americans? Do you hate me for what I've done?
>>135568319
I think you quoted the wrong poster!
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>>135568106
>I don't know I haven't encountered anything too weird :p
What exactly is it you mean? Nothing is "weird" these days because everything goes. The main problem with Western women is that they're generally narcissistic whores with a a lot of sketchy shit in their past. Are Swiss women not like this?
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>>135552406
Arab here, lived for a few months in Zurich.. banged quite a few qt's. Loved it.. wish my work visa didn't expire
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>>135567924
I had the literal same thing with a german. Foreign influence we were warned
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>>135559013
Me to bro. I'm white and my whole life I've been a minority in a sea of brown monkies. No culture here except for "weed dude " . 3/4 of my city area would pass for Mexico City
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>>135568106
yes really.
Just go to https://www.gate.bfs.admin.ch/salarium/public/index.html#/start enter all your qualifications etc. and see what comes out as average salary. I bet its way higher than just 5k, because check out at Lidl already is 4.8k minimum (granted, they do pay well)
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>>135567943
That dude doesn't even speak for a notable percentage of the Swiss population. The only Swiss that post on this site are introverted weirdos... proxies aside, there are probable less than 100 active Swiss posting here, lol.
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>>135568498
Im getting the EU together into a single country and keeping the streets clean of americucks
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>>135567943
Doesn't mean you cant try, we always need labourers to build the toblerone pyramids. We just warn you about the double bottom playingfield
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>>135568572
I can say this American women have been the worst.
Swiss are better compared to them.
>>135568649
but 6250 is good for my work don't you think?
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>>135561672
When you know it's 20 euros for a hot dog things start making more sense
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>>135568732
ok cool im optimus prime and im gonna combine with all the trucks in the world and take over and stomp your dumb country out

it seems like your delusional and cant handle reality at all
have fun staying in shit shape and being unhappy
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>>135568504
>Why do you dislike Americans?
You are intolerant while expecting others to be tolerant.
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>>135568836
I have no idea what your work exactly is. (did you say it anywhere in this thread?)

Its not about what I or you think, its about the averages.
I think that EMTs should be paid 10k a month, unfortunately society thinks they are worth way less. I think professional football players should make minimum wage, again society disagrees.
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>>135568975
I'm a Swiss resident. Secondly, do you dislike me for coming to Switzerland?
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>>135568836
>I can say this American women have been the worst.
>Swiss are better compared to them.
Be specific, this interests me
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>>135565034
I used to think Muslim immigration was always worse than non Muslim, but I realized that in 100 years your people still won't be assimlated because they're not the same religion as the host country. Meaning they can be forcefully removed easier.
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>>135568975
>You are intolerant while expecting others to be tolerant.
You mean muslims and JUSOs
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>>135569002
Mech E degree and I design Hybrid engines
>>135569070
Have you spoke to American women? Literally FUCKING retarded with Psychology degrees thinking they can analyze you and figure you out within 5 minutes. They're not wife material, simple as that.
The Jews are using the USA as a testing ground for all their shit.
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Ha, hey if I come over I would transfer to the Geneva office of my company. Apparently most people who work in the Geneva office commute from France for some reason, why is that? Ofc I would not live in the city because I have heard Geneva is full of nogs like ours are.
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>>135567833
It just felt very weird to be the only person to walk through a city at 4pm to catch the last train to my hotel.
I like people enjoying themselves in public. It gives a feel of comfort to me
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>>135569033
I dislike Americans for being arrogant. You hate people of different color or nationality but believe you can larp as a Swiss.
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>>135566359
this, Americans need to get the fuck off this anti-western European bias. "Muh cucked" is a bullshit way to talk about our homeland. Then again, he's probably a spic subhuman who's homeland is Mexico City.
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>>135568975
Fair
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>>135569258
>Have you spoke to American women? Literally FUCKING retarded with Psychology degrees thinking they can analyze you and figure you out within 5 minutes. They're not wife material, simple as that.
>The Jews are using the USA as a testing ground for all their shit.
That just sounds like women in general tho. I knew a Swiss woman, for instance, who was like a walking cnn. She believed everything mainstream culture had been shilling for the past decade
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>>135569358
Well, next time go visit a city like zurich
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>>135569383
Most of the West is going to be cucked, though. Maybe Not that we aren't.

Maybe Switzerland will be an exception.
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>>135569380
Nothing more arrogant than generalizing and being a hypocrite. Stop larping as if you were some enlightened productive member of German society.
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Plot twist : op is black
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>>135569340
Landed yesterday after a trip to Geneva. It is expensive as hell, 30CHF for a small pizza, 8CHF for a cheap beer and no decent flats below 2500CHF.

Too much cultural enrichment
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>cucked german thinks he can win eu over
>cant even win arguments in this thread

>>135569383
no faggot im aryan looking but im not a fucking faggot larper

theres plenty of instances where immigration can work and its beneficial
theres also plenty more wheres its not

the goal is to not fall prey to get leftist collectivist thinking but be an individual
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>>135552406
How tall are you compared to the native Swiss?
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>>135568314
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>>135565880
>>135566619
>>135567312
>>135568014
>getting baited this hard
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>>135569518
Were more cucked than any other white country on earth. All I see on a daily basis is spic subhumans. We lost our some of our best state to them.
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>>135569258
>Mech E degree and I design Hybrid engines
Yeah ok, thats not too low anymore, thats criminal rip off.

seriously, please fill out the Salarium stuff, I am curious.
Alternatively give me more informations about:
- What field you are in (for what kind of company do you do design)
- What position in your company you have (I assume junior or beginner)
- How many hours per week you work


optionally:
- age
- how long you worked already (years)
- how big is the company (number of people)
- if you get a 13th salary or any other bonus payments

I will fill it out for you and post the results
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>>135569522
>Nothing more arrogant than generalizing and being a hypocrite
Im just showing you a mirror of your American mentality.
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>>135569730
Fucking phone posting sorry
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>>135552406
The swisse will never make you a citizen will they?
Have you been to zermatt?
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>>135569541
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>>135569730
>Were more cucked than any other white country on earth.
Western Europe is going to be 20% Muslim in a few decades. Yeah, we have a lot of spics, but that just makes things stupid and trashy, not genuinely dangerous.
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>>135569853
>not genuinely dangerous
How bout all those cartel members comin' in
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>>135569853
>Western Europe is going to be 20% Muslim in a few decades.
The average arrogant American who is writing about how bad Europe is but then want to move here.
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>>135557281
> people have a healthy image of how the sexes should act and so forth.
How good is it seriously..
I really may move to europe because of this.
I visited recently and this fact was one of the most beautiful things i have ever experienced..
Breaks my heart that they are fucking up the place with all the black scum..
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>>135569853
?? Dude Muslims are better than spics.
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>>135569922
>How bout all those cartel members comin' in
Probably not a very significant effect
>>135570086
Wasn't aware I wanted to move there. I would have to drop down 20 rankings just to go to your best "uni", for starters
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>>135570158
Move to UK or fuck off.
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>>135552406
I visited Zurich last year and it was cozy as fuk. Unfortunately there was a sex shop right near my five-star hotel and it wasnt very fun having to see a bimbos tits every time I go out.
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>>135569340
Genevas rents are not only very very high, particularly for small 1-2 people flats, but there are super hard to find even if you have the money.

In france if you are lucky you can live for half the rent. And the border is super close. I used to walk across it every day to do my shopping (never ever think about smuggling meat though: felony)

Yes there are tons of blacks but they are not a problem (usually). Most are high ranking NGO officials and their staff or expats.
There are some refugees but you can tell from a distance because most are somali (and look the part).

I live in Paquis 50m from the citys red-light district and there are no risks going out even late in the night.
There is a police car every 15 minutes at least.
Also the streets and sidewalks are washed (with water) daily. Its all super clean.

While you wont be able to reduce your rent if you live here, you can reduce your living expenses by buying the m-budget and bon-prix brands from Migros and Coop (the two main shop chains who sell everything).
Was able to eat for less than 10CHF a day. (Dont worry even the cheap food is healthy here)
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>>135559222
checked
BARIS!
I will will come to france and capture one of your petite filles

I will build her a nice nest and allow her to lay our egg in it.
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>>135569853
>Western Europe is going to be 20% Muslim in a few decades. Yeah, we have a lot of spics, but that just makes things stupid and trashy, not genuinely dangerous.
Let us all build a wall!
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>>135552471
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>>135552406


Tell us, is Switzerland better than America?

Are people more wealthy there?

Would you ever consider moving back to USA or no?
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>>135569340
I don't know why the commute?
Haven't been to Geneva but I've heard that as well. Unfortunate.
>>135569380
What do you mean of different color?
Are there not racial differences?
>>135569423
If she's in America she has already drank from the poisoned cup. People here don't really visit America.
>>135569541
No! Blonde , light eyes!
Although I would fit in well in Genova if I were so, haha
>>135569622
Average, thankfully. They're okay in height. The people of the Netherlands are tall
>>135569731
I work in the Alternative Energy department of this company.
25, worked here for less than a year,
It was basically recruitment for the first year as a testing year and now I will be a beginner in the company.
The company is like 20 of us.
Thirteenth salary is 1/10th what I earn.
>>135570158
As someone who has lived in America it's very different in a good way.
>>135570334
And alternative Energy ovens ;)
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>>135569853
wait I think I know who's behind this..
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>>135554947
>. I went back to America so see family and I couldn't stand living there again man.

Iv'e been a bit depressed ever since i came back here with our sour women and lack of culture.
Dont get me wrong i love the country but europe is just an amazing beautiful place. the people are so innocent compared to here
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>>135569432
I went to Switzerland mainly for skiing and the landscape
Zurich has neither of those tho
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>>135561988
that's a pretty rare one right there
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>>135570508
Because I prefer Spics to Muzzies, and no immigrants to either one? Why don't you stop lowering the already poor quality of discussion with this shit.
>>135570496
>If she's in America she has already drank from the poisoned cup. People here don't really visit America.
She was visiting for a few weeks
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>>135570542
well then i can't help ya pal, mountain places will have restrictive public transportation time schedules
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>>135570292
Have you been to CERN?
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>>135570537
Yes man, I went back to America for a bit to see family and was instantly disgusted at the way of life.
Fuck your muh trucks, there ain't shit there. Jews left Europe and went to USA.
>>135570479
Yes, ehh taxes are pretty high but money don't mean shit if your family is broken as is the case in America with the nignog, consumerist culture.
Hell no. That's why I bust my ass here.
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>>135554947
>I went back to America so see family and I couldn't stand living there again man.
Pls say why, I'm in the mood for shitting on my country
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>>135570496
There are, but there is also cultural differences and even if you try as hard you can you will never be European. And now you are telling other people to stay out of Swiss becouse of their color but you aren't even Swiss yourself, that's arrogant.
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>>135570496
there you go.
Apparently its not that bad. But certainly very, very low.

>>135570752
worked there for a few month. Best place on earth :D
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>>135552406
Is it possible to get in if you have a small internet business, working online so not a local business, or is the only way in as a employee working for someone else and thus taking a job away from a Swiss person?
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>>135570828
>. And now you are telling other people to stay out of Swiss becouse of their color but you aren't even Swiss yourself, that's arrogant.
It makes perfect sense, though. If he should choose to marry a Swiss woman, his children would be Swiss. Whereas, for a colored person, it would obviously cause problems.
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>>135562437
Europeans are far nicer irl to americans than they are on 4chan. You get shut-ins, commies and nazis bitching about us on here but most euros are nice people.
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Dude where do all these Medpack posters fucking come from

Ive only seen them post when their country is brought up in a thread and they are everywhere
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>>135570833
>kat b gets more than swiss
Activates the almonds
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>>135570794
Consumerist culture, streets are dirty, I lived in Florida so it's a flat, humid, hot, shithole. People's heads and bodies are fucked from the shitty food and lack of exercise, people are so disconnected doesn't even feel American, consumerist culture, nignog culture. Just bad.
People are faggots with their lifted shitbox truck. Fuck them.
>>135570833
Yes I know! But it'll keep increasing and I'm very glad for the opportunity! My girlfriend and her family have made it easy because we don't have to pay for rent so it's one less burden.
>>135570965
No, of course not.. they don't want foreign competition. You can get hired here maybe? Depends on what you do!
>>135571071
They like to lurk, haha
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>>135570674
You're literally the one saying europe is cucked because they will be 20% Muslim in the future, while we're already 20% spic.
Spics are worse than Muslims by every single measurement. IQ, homidice rate, criminality, you pick. They even manage to commit much more homicides per capita than Muslims, despite Muslims jihading themselves monthly.
I've actually spent months in "cucked" parts of Europe and it's pretty clear who's the better minority.
They all need to be gassed, but stop shitting on europe for their Muslim problem and acting like we don't have it worse in every single demographic metric.
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>>135571102
Because you can pump and dump them.
Hire, fire, let them collect their 3 months of unemployment and out they or find a next pump and dump job for 3-4 months.
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>>135571222
>You're literally the one saying europe is cucked because they will be 20% Muslim in the future, while we're already 20% spic.
And that's obviously true. You would seriously rather have more 20% muzzie population in a democracy?
Not reading the rest of your poorly written shit.
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>>135571447
Id rather have 20% Muslims than 20% spics, yes. Go back to the Donald faggot. Learn about race, IQ, crime rates then come back to /pol/.
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>>135570965
Only if you are from Europe or if you jump through tons of hoops.
https://blog.swiss-permits.ch/de/tag/unternehmer/

Even for EU citizen you need to fulfill quite a few requirements
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>>135571431
So you have your B guys, that can't claim any kind of social services from Switzerland
They pay the highest tax rate "Qullensteuer" and even if they make 10k/month they will stay working poor.
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>>135565492
>I pay taxes and I'm intergrating xdxd

civic nationalism was a mistake
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>>135571218
>t. Loser sitting in Floridian basement with vpn
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If I moved to Switzerland it would just be the return trip that took 150 years. Always found The Swiss to be enjoyable.
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>>135571807
Learn what that really means.
>>135571839
Enjoy your flat, swamp land.
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>>135571839
good luck finding a basement in Florida.
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I'd rather not have you here desu. but I prefer you over the muds
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>>135572070
But why not I don't understand?
Please, you seem rationale.
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>>135571582
>Id rather have 20% Muslims than 20% spics, yes
That's called being a moron. You don't know what the fuck 20% muzzies looks like.
>. Learn about race, IQ, crime rates
You sound like a reddit tier tard yourself. Many muzzie countries have an average iq equal to that of our blacks. And of course their crime rates are lower, half the evil shit they do is legal
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>>135571891
Funny isn't it, the Swiss that left for America ended up worse off than the ones who stayed. I hate this fucking anti-white government so much.
At least yours probably had an amazing life here before the spics and other 3rd worlders flooded us.
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>>135572199
>I don't understand
it's not so hard, really. you're not Swiss, which means you don't belong here. I don't mind you personally, I don't mind Americans, I have simply come to dislike foreign people who move here.

I'm sure you understand
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>>135572201
Plus they are interbred. The rate of birth defects is appalling
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>>135571891
>If I moved to Switzerland it would just be the return trip that took 150 ye
No, it wouldn't. You're American at this point and not Swiss at all
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>>135572419
Yes but if I intérgate? As I have been? I look identical to the Swiss if that's what you refer to as well. If I'm black I would understand why I would never fit in.
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>>135564105
America is a shit country, I would leave too if I had the chance
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>>135571637
>>135571218
That really sucks.
It's funny I know a girl that got in as self employed, she ran a business doing writings about travel and culture. But I guess they let her in so she could promote their country and attract more touristbux.
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>>135571977
I know exactly what it means which is why your thread is so sad.
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>>135572612
If you're a girl you get married and you're in the county lol. Not too difficult
.>>135572561
Maybe the Midwest is nicer? I don't know
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>>135572201
spoken like a true cuckservative.
Travel more, you'll see spics are bottom of the barrel shit.
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>>135572418That's the reason many Europeans resent us. We have denied them their favorite past time for over 70 years. And that is killing other Europeans. Has been this quiet in over 1000 years.
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>>135572799
Great, how does this prove they're worse than muzzies? You don't mentally challenged, friend.
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>>135572556
>Yes but if I intérgate? As I have been?
I commend you for your efforts to be as good an immigrant as possible. while this clearly makes you different from the African, Afghan and Balkan plague it still doesn't change that you are neither Swiss nor born into Swiss culture. which is why I'd rather have you go back to America.

you might look European, but you'll never be one, despite all your best efforts. you might find friendship and even love here, but you'll never fully 'fit in' or become 'one of us'. sorry man
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>>135572712
Man you don't know anything. Lurk more, seriously. That's not at all what Civic Nationalism means, you're mad that I left America. Maybe instead of being flustered as to why I left try to understand the problems of America.
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>>135572561
Try leaving for an extended period. You'll kiss the earth when you return.
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>>135572884
Have you ever been to Europe?? It's pretty fucking clear who's worse.
Also nice job calling me mentally challenged and fucking up your grammar in the same sentence.
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>>135572724
>midwest
All of the major cities are nigger infested shitholes and I would not step foot in Europe (unless if Spain gets better, which it wont) until the muslims and niggers are kicked out or exterminated. I would rather move away to Chile or Argentina anyway since I speak both Spanish and English and news flash!
>Argentinian whites have good birth rates!
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>>135572724
No she wasnt getting married, she just applied and sent her resume and a essay talking about her experience as a travel/culture writer and wants to live there to write about their country and they gave her a residence permit but they made her sign some legal documents saying she wouldn't look for a job or work, it was for self employment only.
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>>135573024
I did, I went to Spain for 11 days, I was happy to see little to no niggers
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>>135572994
This is a silly argument, one can learn the Swiss culture can they not? And if I look the part (which Arabs and blacks could never) then I'm half way there. The other is intergrating, contributing positively and respecting the culture and become part of it. This is what I want to do and I am doing. And I too will fight for this land, just like any other Swiss. Believe me on that.
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>>135573080
>Have you ever been to Europe?? It's pretty fucking clear who's worse.
No, shit. Their foreign population is still very low. You can see their future in the places where it isn't.
Try to see past your extra chromosome and into the future
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>>135572994
And that is the difference. You could move to America and become American but the opposite is not true. If I moved to the UK I'd never be British. I wouldn't expect to be.
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>>135573097
>rgentinian whites
there's a good meme
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>>135573229
That's how I feel every year when I go to Europe. It feels great to get away from spics and niggers. The biggest problem europe has is fresh off the boat niggers from Africa.
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>>135573097
Argentina is getting fucked right now. Chile is better and it's nice.
>>135573149
Wow lucky girl.
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>>135573268
>And I too will fight for this land
Why should he believe that when you left America as soon as it became uncomfortable for you?
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>>135573286
>their population is low
Confirmed for never going to Europe. Mudshits are fucking everywhere.
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>>135573010
You believe that you should be accepted because you look like the locals and are trying to integrate and think it's irrational that many locals reject you.

You are wrong and they are right. Rootless (((melting pot))) Americans like you do not and maybe cannot understand the identity of firmly rooted societies unfortunately.
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>>135573334
>You could move to America and become American
Not true, he'd never be American
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>>135573286
Also when losing an argument, name calling doesn't help. It just makes it clear you've lost.
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>>135573377
My eyes filled with rage to see those fuckers there
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>>135573479
>Confirmed for never going to Europe. Mudshits are fucking everywhere.
Why not look at stats instead of being fucktarded. Most European countries are around 90% white
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>>135573349
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>>135573489
>Rootless (((melting pot))) Americans like you do not
You sound retarded senpai
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>>135573268
>This is a silly argument, one can learn the Swiss culture can they not?
not really, this is where your American background reveals itself. like >>135573334 says, European nations, unlike America, are not "nations of the willing". you were either born into it or you'll remain a tolerated outsider at best. this should not discourage you from aspiring to be the best possible immigrant, but you'll remain an immigrant for the rest of the time you are guest here.

please don't take this personally, I have nothing against you or americans in general, some of my very best and closest friends were from the US and I wouldn't ever want to miss them. but they'd never be Swiss if they moved here, just like you won't. and that's ok.
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>>135573580
Exactly . The mudshits are better than our spics and niggers, but European niggers are NIGGERS. Pure bred, no slave owner rape genes.
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>>135573489
Those "firmly rooted societies" are what the powers that be are trying to destroy
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>>135573692
>are not "nations of the willing".
Do you really believe that you'd become American by living here?
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>>135573600
Travel more and learn about genetics, or go black to the Donald. Your choice. Not all Muslims are paki and Arabs. Turks, Persians are all way higher tier genetically than spics.
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>>135573880
Go back.*
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>>135573460
Country has been bad, America doesn't do anything good anymore. (((They))) have killed it in 1965 and they use it now as a military meat shield. I won't contribute to that. Sorry.
>>135573489
And Americans are grounded? Fuck off. Take a look around and look at Americans now a days.
>>135573692
I respect that, but I feel I'm getting to the point of indistinguishability. The only ones who know I was American are the ones I have opened myself up to. Everyone always ask me what Canton I grew up in. Thank you, I'm okay my friend :)
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>>135573820
I personally don't believe so, but America seems to advertise itself as such.

>>135573979
I STRONGLY doubt this. any native Swiss German speaker will immediately recognize that you were not raised with Swiss German as your first language. anything else is just bullshit for small talk.
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>>135573979
> (((They))) have killed it in 1965 and they use it now as a military meat shield. I won't contribute to that. Sorry.

Fucking this. In 50 years we'll be a bigger, more anti white, version of Brazil.
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>>135573880
>our choice. Not all Muslims are paki and Arabs. Turks, Persians are all way higher tier genetically than spics.
Turkey is the highest, with a whopping 90. Hispanic Americans score 89
Iraq and Iran are around 85
Go get your extra chromosome removed
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>>135573701
Story time
>be me
>me and my family are in Barcelona
>me and my dad are Barca fans
>make a joke about how Real Madrid fans are not welcome here and will be ridiculed
>insert pouty arab who works there
>"I'm a Real Madrid Fan"
>me and my dad jokingly say
>"wtf are you doing here?"
>"THIS IS BARCA TURF!"
>Arab proceeds to be a pouty little shit and have no sense of humor
Seriously Dude, I cant stand arabs either, they like to talk shit and attack us but when we do it, "it's racist" or "islamophobic"
>FUCK ARABS
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>>135574241
>hispanic Americans
>Turkish Turks
Right, apples and oranges. Mexicos IQ is 80, 9 points lower than turkeys.
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>>135573392
Maybe it wasnt just a matter of luck? Maybe they gave it her because they potential future payoff of her writing about their country would attract more foreign touristbux? Sort of like she brought something they found valuable to the table?
But I'm not into writing, I'm more into technical stuff so I don't think I would be able to tap into something similar to that. I would be interested in moving there in a few years but I do not want to take a job away from one of them and instead running my own business basically bring my own job with me instead of taking one of theirs.
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>>135574376
>Right, apples and oranges. Mexicos IQ is 80, 9 points lower than turkeys.
Mexico is 88
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>>135574241
And again name calling doesn't help you crawl your way out of losing an argument.
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>>135573979
>And Americans are grounded? Fuck off.

You can't even comprehend English and you think you can master the finer intricacies of Swiss German? XD

I was saying quite the opposite; that most Americans are rootless. Nothing remains of the intenstely tribal identities and strong in-group preferences that accompany a society that has shared the same unique culture, genetics, religion etc. for generations. The fact that you are oblivious to this is symptomatic of your (((civic nationalist))) upbringing.
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>>135574177
Yes. When i speak Russian somehow I speak with a Georgian accent. It amuses the natives. I've never been there. In Germany people knew instantly by my accent that I wasn't German. They were kind.
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>>135574177
So far this has been the case for me. >>135574221
Yeah but Americans will completely deny these very honest attributes and call you a faggot or unpatriotic or a shill. I just don't understand what the fuck is wrong with them. THEYRE USING YOU AS A MILITARY MEAT SHIELD AND A SOCIAL CAULDRON OF EVIL!
>>135574391
Switzerland attracts people no matter what some bitch says, trust me on that. IT guys are probably wanted here
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>>135574596
You sound like a tard though. Switzerland already has four fucking languages for God's sake, and is taking in plenty of Turks. One white American won't harm the place
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>>135574552
I'm not going to accuse you of being a spic, but it's sure seeming that way.
I've noticed spics on here tend to be the most anti Muslim and anti black, because Muslims and blacks are compitition. Only so many hands can take from the white man's wealth.
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>>135574858
>loses argument
>ur a spic because you don't like muzzies
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>>135574728
>So far this has been the case for me
i dem Fall würds der sicher nüt usmache wemmer ois churz uf Züridütsch unterhaltet, oder?
ich bin devo überzügt, dass du guet Dütsch lerne chasch. aber hör mer uf dass du nach eim (EIM) Jahr i de Schwiiz wie en Muetersprachler tönsch.
Glaub mer, ich lerne scho läner Änglisch als du Dütsch und obwohl ich überdurchschnittlich guet Änglisch chan bin ich meilewiit vom Ton vomne Muetersprachler entfernt.

>inb4 ignored
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>>135574177
>native ... German speaker will immediately recognize that you were not raised with...German as your first language.
Omitting Swiss, for a reason. It might be possible because for example in my experience: A long time ago I lived in Germany for around a year and Germans said they thought I had an accent but it wasn't an American accent. They could detect a slight accent but couldn't specifically place where my accent would be from sometimes they even thought it was from other parts of Germany.
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>>135575005
I literally said I'm not accusing you of being a spic. But now I am. Only a spic can be as fucking stupid as you.
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>>135552471
Do you guys really hate Germans?
Gonna work in Bern for at least 1yr.
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>>135575106
>I literally said I'm not accusing you of being a spic. But now I am. Only a spic can be as fucking stupid as you.
You lost the argument
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>>135575005
also I hate muzzies more than you. I even hate some southern Europeans like Portuguese because they're pumping muzzie blood in their veins.
Muslims are subhumans. But spics are bigger subhumans. Unlike you, I have no bias or spic/mudshit blood.
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>>135575075
then you must have an extraordinary talent for foreign languages. whenever I talk to native english speakers they wonder where I'm from. they obviously wouldn't guess that I'm Swiss, but any native speaker would quickly realize that I wasn't raised with English as my 1st language.

It's not even just the obvious stuff like pronunciation, but subtle things like your active vocabulary, idioms, sentence structure and such.
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>>135574728
>IT guys are probably wanted here
Yes, but they only have work permits for highly skilled and experienced employees. I really rather not take one of their jobs. I checked their site and the only business permits they have are for literal multimillionaires. It seems to be easier to get into Germany because they have the option to give you a permit for being self employed if you can show them enough evidence.
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>>135575025
...seid ihr Schluchtenscheißer wirklich angepisst wenn jemand nur Hochdeutsch spricht? Ich werde euren Dialekt eh nie sprechen können, sollte ich es trotzdem versuchen?
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>>135552406
Tell me all about the banks.
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>>135575204
Nah; you did. You started name calling long before I did. That's the metric. Now don't you have a toilet to clean, Paco?
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>>135575130
>Do you guys really hate Germans?
probably the most resented nationality of them all.
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>>135575467
I guessed so, it's prob a big minority aswell.
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>>135575414
>wirklich angepisst wenn jemand nur Hochdeutsch spricht?
kommt drauf an. beim Kennenlernen bestimmt denn alle hassen Deutsche, aber sobald du als Person bekannt und sympathisch wirst sehen wir darüber hinweg.

schlimmer als nur Hochdeutsch ist Tryhard-Hoch-Schweizerdeutsch.
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>>135575463
>Nah; you did
Because I insulted you? lel, your info was completely wrong
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>>135568504
This doesn't make sense to me. However, Austrianism will prevail. I'm certain of that no matter what happens.
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>>135575391
Oh no I was only taking about pronunciation, not the rest of the language. I don't even think I have that much talent for foreign languages and have poor grammar and vocabulary. What I did was really autisticly spend huge amount of time to listen closely to audio and recordings and focus on their pronunciation and then ask people I knew if they thought I had an accent and they said they thought it doesn't sound American and couldn't place specifically where but maybe some other part of Germany. But this was long enough ago I forgot all the details, maybe they where just bullshiting to be nice or something. I have experienced that Germans put huge giant emphasis on being nice and polite.
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