Why does pol hate the gays?

>>133885497
No QT bf

I have nothing against lesbians or bisexual females.

they're annoying faggots, just like op

>>133885497
>slide thread
Sage and hide.

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>>133885497
>no
>ass
>at
>all

>>133885497
I hate niggers and various other mystery meat too much to care drama whore.

If left to its own devices without the aid of science it is a genetic dead end and therefore an abnormality.

>>133885700
Exactly my thoughts, too.
/fit/ has ruined women for me.

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>gay
Is there any other reason why we shouldn't

>>133885497
WTF? I love gays:
AiIDS.

>>133885602
this

>>133885497
>>133885577
because god hates it, its perverse and twisted, unnatural .. were not animals after all.

>>133886912
Computers are unnatural, and you're using one of those. Checkmate, atheists.

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>>133886912
So you don't support equal marriage? Why not?

>>133885497
You're annoying petty little tyrants
Never should have given you people an inch

>>133885497
it depends
if they're like normal people and they do not trying to get attencion its good
if they're fucking strret marching lgbtq's who are aggresive ill shoot them

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>>133887714
Gays shouldn't have parental rights. Gay parents fuck kids up in the head and children are 14 times more likely to be molested/raped by gays then straight people.

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>>133885497
Society is dependent on certain actions being followed by the people. No murder, stealing, or committing other criminal acts, the general public needs to remain faithful to their partner and produce strong families. Without these rules, society would fall into chaos, and eventually collapse due to interior decay.

Every individual must reflect these virtues and principles of behavior. If you don't hold everyone to this standard, then what is the point such hypocrisy?

I hate faggots for the same reason I hate murderers and thieves. They're a cancer who thinks they're above society. Hedonists and narcissists, looking out for only their pleasure and not the welfare of society.

because they have small tits

because they flood my favorite porn sites and it's difficult to enjoy a picture of a naked woman with a thumbnail depicting a guy sucking cock in peripheral vision. I hate you faggots so much for this shit

>>133889216
This is for your own good, Seba. Quit it.

>>133885497
Such a large percentage are mentally unbalanced. Gays are a huge grab-bag of mental hangups, flawed mindsets, emotional unhinged states of being, and disorders. They're screwed up.
You take people like that, and suddenly what do you know, they're spreading aids everywhere, they want to dress in a damned rainbow or gimp costume while a plastic cock goes up in their anus, ripping it up to incontinence all while some parade of other twinks goes by with the occasional 12 year old, they need constant reassurance and attention that they're okay and not crazed freaks by the whole of tolerance-is-god society, and they have to twist and destroy the entire fabric of nature and human interaction. Just to get that "acceptance" for a dick in their asses or a lesbo muff in their face.

>>133889358
no you fucking retard. You're going to tell me I should feel guilty for enjoying looking at pictures of naked beautiful women then turn around and act surprised when people are turning gay? Straight porn reinforces straight sexuality and empowers men.

>>133888635

social beliefs waver and die in a moment of truth

independent virtue will save your life and keep your future on track

stop being a fag that believes everything you read

>>133885497
Just drop the sauce. That's the only reason anybody got drawn into this retarded thread.

>>133890037
>social beliefs waver and die in a moment of truth
This is simply wrong. There is an immutable foundation in society that must be abided by for that society to exist. You don't allow murder or rape, no prosperous society ever has. Some tenets are absolutely required and will never waver and die.


In our modern society faggotry has been allowed, along with every other shade of hedonism. We've become a bunch of narcissists and we're dying because of it.

>>133885497
There are two types of people who hate homosexuals:

1. Politicians who hate in order to use it as a platform

2. Severely repressed queers

>>133891115
I'm neither
checkmate atheists

>>133891249
You're one of them

Homosexuals are victims of long term incrimental trauma from their mums. Mum hags create son fags.

>>133885497
Because they are usually overly emotional and have feminine personalities.

>>133891280
haha faggot

>>133891115
Nice fallacy queer, I hate gays because they disgust me

>>133891374
Funny cause I grew up with both my mom and dad throughout my life until I was 18 and I still turned out to be a bisexual tranny

>>133885497
I don't really hate the gays. I'm more indifferent to them.

>>133885497
That video triggers me, they have their pantsus under the garterbelts and it should be the opposite.

>>133885497
Double *brap*

>>133891506
You're disgusted by the queer that's inside of you so you project your hate outwards

Blame your mums fags but you never will...it's easier to blame the rest of society for your mental illness. Blame her then walk away and let the healing begin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=583GBge-U-c

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>>133885497

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>be 13
>get raped or molested by an old man
>become gay
And people say you're born with this? Bull fucking shit.
Happened to Takei, happened to Milo, probably happening in droves thanks to all the Catholic priests who literally cannot stop fucking little boys.

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What's a simple way to combat homophilia?

>>133891611
You're disgusted by the normal man that's inside of you wishing his outside wasn't such a disgusting wretch so you project your hate outwards.

>>133885497
As long as they don't start families, I'm fine. In a traditional family, the mother is ment to nuture children and the father is ment to dicipline children. They work together to create a strong and moral generation.

>>133891530

Your father is ineffectual. Your mum is a fucking hag and I guarantee I could pick her out from within a group of women with non-traumatised children...

>>133891779
Nah senpai
I just have dysphoria and I'm treating it appropriately

>>133885497
Because faggots and dykes are degenerates who want to destroy western society.

>>133885497
It's "degenerate."

What we mean is that it destroys the foundations of the nuclear family, which is classically proven as the most successful form of an individual social unit and the most capable of producing healthy children.

Through compassion America as a whole gave gays some of what they wanted, because obviously the intentions of gays is not to damage society. They just want to feel good, and that's not inherently wrong. But give an inch, and they take a mile, and degeneracy grows.

>>133891717

Jews do it much more but it is forbidden to moser on them because they will be exposed to goy penalties and unable physically to be redeemed by other Jews

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>>133885497

I never understood why most people aren't bisexual

>>133891868
That's nice
Please continue to be bitter and smash that keyboard

>>133892018

Dykes are a different dynamic. Lovable but weak father. Cunt mum but radiates authority.

>>133892055
This

>>133885497
Because it aint right.

>>133885497
Because gays are stupid

>Every other culture hates them more than whites
>Still blames and shit on white men for everything

I for one hope the Muslims get power if whties die off and they fucking massacre the faggots just because of how arrogant they are. Conservative fags are fine but rare.

>>133892196

Don't hate me for your personal failings..hate your shitty mum.

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>>133885497
>Porn sluts
>gay
neck yourself faggot procreation is your only goal in life and you cant even do that

>>133885497

not that u dumb fool. lesbians are cute and convertible..
male assfuckers need to burn in hell!

>>133892399
Ok honey.
My mom is a great person.
Sorry your stereotyping is shitty

>>133887714
I follow the Bible.

"If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads." - Leviticus 20:13

Sage faggot thread.

>>133892491

Lesbians are more violent, calculating and bitter while fags are a thin whimsical shell veneered over anxiety, self doubt and personal loathing.

>>133891530
>a bisexual tranny
You mean a mentally ill pervert.

>>133885497
Women can't be gay.
They are lesbian and I have no problem with them beyond their not procreating.
Man lying with man is sinful. The same is not applied to women because no dick for sodomy.

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>>133892725
This.

>>133892535

She is probably a scream at parties...child rearing is not a party. Matriarchal trauma is a terrible burden to bear.

>>133891868
not them but my father was always incredibly kind and supportive and my mom isn't a hag. If you try to fit everything into your narrow point of view you're just gonna look like a retard to everyone.

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>>133892676
>believing the Bible

>>133892778
Na bro

>>133892676
So you don't eat pork or shellfish, wear materials of 2 or more fabrics? Do you kill disobedient children too?

Luke 22:20, "This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood."

>>133892535
Yeah, sweetie, i bet she was sooo sweet helping you out and helping you with your faggy make up and being totally supportive of your newfound love of cock. Hahaha you and your mom are net negatives to our society fag.

>>133893136
Go back to r/atheism newfag.

>>133893088

Ineffectual father....hag mum. I read you loud and clear.

>>133893168
Most of the laws of the Old Testament were abolished, but not the morals ones, only the ceremonial and judicial laws. Morals laws are still in effect.

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality," - 1 Corinthians 6:9

>>133893379
Ok but that doesn't mean to kill us so Leviticus is STILL off the table no matter what Corinthians says. You can't just pick parts of a book to enforce. We don't just say well, odd-numbered articles of the Constitution we will uphold.

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>>133887714
I really don't have much against gays themselves, but I would oppose both exposing kids to homosexual stuff and gay marriage.

think about it: if marriage should be in any way controlled by the government, only the men-woman marriage is a good 'investment' for it. Married people are rarely involved in crime activities, married man statistically make more money and also are much more likely to produce mentally stable children, which are a 'return on the investment', if you will.
Gay marriage wouldn't be anything else then a symbolic gesture of equality, with no logic behind it

>>133888635

Based NatSoc

>>133893363
and your mom was a deer and your dad was a nigger
saying dumb shit doesn't make it true

>>133893480
Maybe, but even if we can't kill you, you're still degenerates who have no place in society. At best, we should put you in prison.

>>133893172
My sister helped me with that

>>133893211
>angry Christian
Go away and go back to your fairytales

>>133885700
stop being a stupid nigger

>>133893509
Adoption and surrogacy means that I would prefer to raise kids in the context of marriage and be able to use the same title "husband" for the one I love that you can call "wife" vs. having to call "partner" or "girlfriend".

>>133893651
Everyone has the right to be happy in America. Not sure where you are from due to larpflag but we don't just put people in prison here unless they are convicted of crimes. Gay people have made many contributions to our society.

>>133893509
gay marraige was mostly about rights married people had like being able to visit your partner in the hospital

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>>133893675
>fairytales
Listen r/atheism, I know you're new here, but /pol/ is a Christian board, and you're not welcome.

>>133893574

Lashing out externally doesn't help you. You must clinically examine the damaging detritus unfairly heaped upon you by your mother....which was either ignored or consented to by your weak father's silence.

>>133893764
Well, civil unions rarely allow for two gay people to jointly adopt a child or hire a surrogate and gain parental rights of said child. Children matter to many gays. In 2003 4 gay couples with 5 kids between them won the right in a Massachusetts court to marry. Gays who have kids and who have been together for decades have been at the forefront of our legal battles. I don't see a lot of dudes who want their rights to fuck in bathrooms fighting in court.

>>133893904
Ok christfag
You're so-called god is a piece of shit.
I believed in the Bible to but then I grew up and I came to the age of reasoning.
Sucks your brain haven't matured yet

Fags tend to be the first or last child I've noticed overwhelmingly.

"Lesbians" don't exist.
A lesbian is just a straight girl who hasn't been properly dicked yet.

>>133893727
>everyone has the right to be happy
NO! Only the best of the best have the right to be happy. The family is the very FOUNDATION of western civilization. If you can't even contribute to that, you do not deserve happiness.

>>133893727
>Adoption and surrogacy means that I would prefer to raise kids in the context of marriage

I understand the need for leaving offspring, but wouldn't you want to be sure that a mentally healthy kid is able to grow up in a same sex marriage? We still don't have enough data on that, and we do know it doesn't take much to fuck up a kid for life

>>133893764
>rights married people had like being able to visit your partner in the hospital

that should be a separate thing from marriage - like a list you fill out with who you want. Many people hate they're family, have barely any contact with it or don't have living family members, and they could be visited by close friends instead.

>>133893727
>Everyone has the right to be happy in America
false

They rape children

>>133894034
Wow r/atheism, still spewing your bullshit from 2007? Unfortunately for you, the new r/atheism died a long time ago. I think the best thing for you to do is to either kill yourself or convert.
>B-BUT MUH GAWDDDD DELUSION BOOK

Also most are kikes

>>133894034

You are unhappy. Heal thyself. You must first convict your mother rightfully for her crimes in your heart by objectively taking inventory of them.

>>133894389
I'm very happy
Have a career, bf, house.

>>133894172
Kids are very hardy. I think they can handle a bunch of bigots on the internet making fun of them for being Heather with two mommies.

>>133894192
Life, liberty and the pursuit of clamdigging?

>>133894034
You've got to be larping. Real people don't talk like this and make strategically amusing spelling mistakes.

We hate the gays because they're manchildren on the one side or utterly insane if they have a vagina. They sell hedonism and offer an easily-obtainable method of social differentiation to the weak and lazy. They delude the lost into the pursuit of seratonin and dopamine and make it very easy for the young to lose their way at a time when missteps are often unrecoverable. Plus, they all tend to be white and we're having enough problems getting people to take on the stress of child-rearing without the fear of them opting for a dead end of pleasure-seeking.

>>133894466

Once again deflecting via externalities.

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>>133892676
>following the paper jew

>>133893941
I honestly don't even know what you're trying to say. My mom didn't want me to be trans you dumb monkey. My dad was supportive because he saw how bad the dysphoria was getting and he's just happy I'm alive

>>133894663
Internally I'm happy.
I love your poor assumptions though my man

>>133894486
it's not so much about the abuse by other kids, as it is about giving the kid the right set of principles to live as a boy or girl.
It sometimes takes only an absent father for a girl to become a whore, or an absent mother for a boy to have problems with maintaining a long relationship.

I do see you're counter argument could be then why shouldn't orphans or abused kids be at least brought up by gay parents and I wouldn't have a good answer for it.

That's why I think we should gather data and step carefully

>>133885497
because deep down the gays hate themselves

>>133895042
We have gathered data. People use the same excuse for marijuana that it hasn't been studied enough (but it is illegal to research unless it comes from a farm in Mississippi that produces shit quality weed). The experiment has been going well so far.

http://whatweknow.law.columbia.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-wellbeing-of-children-with-gay-or-lesbian-parents/

>>133885497
My wife has that lingerie.
> It looks better on them :(

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>>133895096
>because deep down the gays hate themselves
They are actually statistically much more narcissistic, which may be just as bad or worse if you think about it

>>133894975
Same here anon
My parents were supportive

>>133895016

Too late you've already demonstrated impulsive unguarded self-prosecution. You are not ready because you cannot even be honest to yourself.

>>133895175
SJW-infected bullshit 'science'

traditional nuclear families found the core part of successful society. think of the kids. what is best for them.

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE DESIRES OF THE GAY

>>133895321

A collaboration of self-saboteurs. Misery craves like minded company for obvious reasons.

>>133895426
I don't think it will harm my children to be raised by two men. And the only people who do have religious interests to defend in conflict.


>>133894975
Please don't lump us in with men who have sex with men but refuse to identify as gay. They are homophobic and do not represent us. Many have autism, all are delusional.

>>133895175
it's still inconclusive, I'm sorry

http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2015/02/14417/

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2500537

https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2458-12-646

I understand that as you are emotionally invested in the outcome it's hard to look at it pragmatically or objectively. I myself don't have a firm opinion, but I think we are moving much too fast with all this, at least in the west

>>133885700
Yeah but atleast they have the only acceptable skin.

>>133895321
yeah, I hate these psuedo intellectual bigots more than the normal ones because at least the ones who just call you faggot don't think they're some sort of diety that know who you are better than you do

>>133895175
And marihuana is not a good analogy, as there is a lot of pharmaceutics companies lobbying going on behind the scenes

>>133885497
Because they are destroying the female mind by implementing masculine behaviors on women,
homossexual degenerate behavior being touted as "feminine"

They're behind 99% of feminism horrible ideas and the destruction of the fabric of family in the western civ. Simple as that.

>>133895578

No one really fears you...it is merely a technique of imagined persecution to allay the primal recognition that the wreckage of your life was left broken in the corner by your mother's failings.

>>133895644
All thoroughly debunked research. None of it published in respectable peer reviewed journals. Sullins is a priest who pays to publish religious propaganda in pay-to-publish journals. I'm not doubting that wealthy Christian interests are against us. I am doubting that there is much secularly funded research against us. Rarely do these studies compare gay married parents vs gay straight parents (actually never). They just compare how dangerous it is to now allow gay marriage because then gays break up the unhappy heterosexual married lives they may have initially tried to form.

Also, if I'm not mistaken wasn't that Australian study pro-gay in outcome?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/05/10/new-criticism-of-regnerus-study-on-parenting-study/

https://thinkprogress.org/conservatives-seize-on-hugely-flawed-study-about-same-sex-parents-bd797734bf40

>>133896110


>https://washingtonpost com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/05/10/new-criticism-of-regnerus-study-on-parenting-study
https://archive.is/mkne2
>https://thinkprogress org/conservatives-seize-on-hugely-flawed-study-about-same-sex-parents-bd797734bf40
https://archive.is/aym23

>>133895757

>psuedo intellectual

That is oh so rich but none too fabulous.

Because gays are degenerate and need to be purged from this earth
https://youtu.be/_fqpF_13W_M

>>133895794
And there is a lot of Christian interests behind the scenes producing anti-gay datasets to try to make us look bad.

If you can claim that pharmaceutical industries can collude to keep weed illegal, surely you could see that Christian interests can collude behind the scenes to manipulate data to create arguments in courts against gay marriage and adoption?

>>133896038
Trannies fear saying they are gay. They are homophobic in the most literal sense.

>>133885497
>navel piercing
SOILED IT

>>133895578
YOU don't think it will harm them
YOU are arrogant enough to place yourself in a position as being more important than the children.

A man who grew up with 2 dads will only know to have a nuclear family of his own out of rejection and disgust of his own upbringing!

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>>133886487

Back to >>>/lgbt/ with you degenerate

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>>133896272

Equivalent to a shoving match on a line...leading to the guillotine.

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>>133896442
legitimate kek

>>133896442
sauce on that qt3.14

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>>133885497
/pol/ is the natural home of the gays.

>>133893727
>>133895175

but lets leave the kids out of it for the moment, I think the whole adoption/surrogacy thing is 3 steps further and a totally different discussion.

Why would you want the marriage to be in any way sanctioned by the government? (Other then the hospital visits thing, which is a non issue and a separate problem)

>>133896110
The "respectable" journals are the ones which have a lot to lose publishing a non SJW papers these days.
Don't claim 'debunk' without souce pls, let's keep this civil.

What about the more probable breakups and betrayal in same sex couples and marriages?
https://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rosenfeld_Couple_Longevity_Forthcoming_JMF.pdf

>>133896227
>If you can claim that pharmaceutical industries can collude to keep weed illegal, surely you could see that Christian interests can collude behind the scenes

there is a difference in losing billions and just being disgusted/disapproving
That's by no means a good analogy, and the christian money manipulating research is not a good argument.

A lot of gays want to live there lives as normally as possible with equal rights as heterosexual couples. That's perfectly reasonable. A lot of gay people don't parade around acting like faggots 24/7.

It's the vocal ones I hate. No one is beating normal gays to death or oppressing them. If you get treated differently it's because you're fucking different and that makes people uncomfortable. Normal gays who don't make a scene in public aren't harassed or worse, beaten because other than their private sexual nature they aren't fucking fags.

The tranny freaks are even worse than fags esp if they're not passable. I'm not going to cater to the whims of some nutcases that don't even add up to 1% of the population I will oppose them at every chance I get.

So I don't hate normal gays who are productive members of the world. I hate faggots who think they deserve more rights and privilege just for being different when they know they're degenerate and deserve less.

Normal heterosexual middle class or higher couples should be rewarded with more privilege, rights and rewards since they are the life line of our nation. They should be given top priority and if they can't reproduce and want to, they should be given every opportunity to with adoption or medicine. This is not a race thing either any race who meets the criteria above should also be given top priority.

This country needs to get back to it's roots of a strong middle class, family oriented lifestyle.

Fuck all this gay country.

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>>133885497
Because they're assholes, OP.
Because they're assholes.

>>133897268
Well taxation as well. Marriage has become a social status. Christians did not invent the concept and do not solely claim it. Marriage is a sign of commitment for life to someone you love. Being able to (as a child) say that your parents are married has long been held as important, so why would I not want that for my kids?

I did provide sources.

I think gays do have less monogamy than straight couples and that makes gay marriage even more important to encourage monogamous bonds for life.

I think churches genuinely feel they have millions of dollars and worshippers to lose if they don't win on gay issues. They have pushed it so hard, unchallenged, in the past and it seems like God's will is against them if their policies are directly contradicted by most developed nations.

>>133896227
Also, you are trying to break up a many thousands year old tradition here, it won't be enough to say
>meh, Christians
to everything

>>133897566
Straight couples can still marry, that tradition is preserved.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodridge_v._Department_of_Public_Health

In a 50-page, 4–3 ruling on November 18, 2003, the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court said it was asked to determine whether Massachusetts "may deny the protections, benefits and obligations conferred by civil marriage to two individuals of the same sex who wish to marry. We conclude that it may not. The Massachusetts Constitution affirms the dignity and equality of all individuals. It forbids the creation of second-class citizens."[5]
Addressing the concerns expressed in various amicus briefs about the potential harm same-sex marriage might cause to the institution of marriage, she wrote:

Here, the plaintiffs seek only to be married, not to undermine the institution of civil marriage. They do not want marriage abolished. They do not attack the binary nature of marriage, the consanguinity provisions, or any of the other gate-keeping provisions of the marriage licensing law. Recognizing the right of an individual to marry a person of the same sex will not diminish the validity or dignity of opposite-sex marriage, any more than recognizing the right of an individual to marry a person of a different race devalues the marriage of a person who marries someone of her own race. If anything, extending civil marriage to same-sex couples reinforces the importance of marriage to individuals and communities. That same-sex couples are willing to embrace marriage's solemn obligations of exclusivity, mutual support, and commitment to one another is a testament to the enduring place of marriage in our laws and in the human spirit.
Addressing the concerns expressed in various amicus briefs about the potential harm same-sex marriage might cause to the institution of marriage, she wrote:

>>133885619
>hypocrite and degenerate

>>133885497
Forcing or coercing women to have sex with each other is iron pilled as fuck. Lesbianism is a display if beauty for the pleasure of men. Faggotry is just disgusting and doesn't benefit men at all except for the ones that want shit on their dick or their anus stretched out, and those men are degenerate dogs worthy of no respect.

>>133898013
What about women who watch gay porn?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/11051140/Why-women-watch-gay-porn-more-than-ever-before.html

>>133895471
Lol
The only miserable one here is you

>>133897565
taxation, as I wrote earlier, is a privilege.
With reduced taxation governments make investments. A traditional family is a proven investment (the more families the less police spends, healthcare spends, the more taxable income and more potential future taxpayers).
How are gay couples a good investment? (i think they can be to a degree, but I'd love to see your argument)

>I think gays do have less monogamy than straight couples and that makes gay marriage even more important to encourage monogamous bonds for life
That's a good point

>>133897565
>I think churches genuinely feel they have millions of dollars and worshippers to lose
actually the SJW resurgence is filling the back churches
That's also a farfetched speculation, that could be balanced with at least the same amount of behind-the-scenes money skewing the research in favor of same sex marriage.

>>133898069
>>133898013
You both belong to the ovens with that degeneracy.

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>>133885497
We don't

>>133898219
That encouraging gays to be monogamous and have kids increases their contribution to the state and reduces our disease burden and our tendency to have public sex (which is an important consideration). With gay marriage we don't have to have sex in secret, damage relationships with women we cheat on, have cops attend to busting up our public sex. It also reduces the rate of sexually transmitted diseases in the gay community, and increases our happiness and health, all of which are beneficial to state interests.

I really don't care if churches want to refuse us marriage in them, that is 100% their right. No priest has EVER been forced to perform a gay marriage and never will. That said, I don't think that gives them any reign over what happens in the secular world.

I don't trust research right now because we have only had gay marriage and adoption since 2015 and so we won't have good data on comparing kids who were raised from birth by intact gay vs straight married families in large numbers until 2030 at the earliest.

>>133898231
>Advocating murder of those dissenting opinions
>Calling others degenerates

>>133896442
>>133896701

I did read that and I disagree with him/her.
At least try to appear inteligent, niggers

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>>133898660
This is something I find a bit weird about /pol/. People here go on about sexuality-based degeneracy, but they love fantasizing about death and killing so much that to me, they might as well be posting "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!"

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>>133898846

>appear inteligent

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They destroy the nuclear family more so.

>>133898191

You = laughing out loud but crying inside silently.

>>133898640
To your first paragraph, and taking into account my argument about the tax privileges and kids: would you be willing to accept different tax law for same sex and traditional marriages?

>we won't have sufficient data until 2030
I agree. I think, taking your own feelings aside and past centuries into account, you can see how massive change you're trying to achieve.
Be careful how you would like it to go, cause it may yet backfire. The swing has been on the left for the last 50 years really, but it starts to go back to the right and everything liberals gained will fall under question.

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>>133899200
>niggers
>appear inteligent
ftfy

>>133899490
No need for tears.
I'm sorry your life is so miserable that you have to project your hate onto others.

You should see a therapist about that

>>133885619
Wrong answer. If anything, lezzies are even worse than the walking plague that is the homosexual male. They're statistically hyper aggressive, chronically under performing drug-addicted leeches. Also, lesbians proselytize MUCH harder than homosexual men--look up the term "political lesbian" if you want to see what I mean. A gay male means more pussy for the rest of us. A gay female means that not one, but TWO pussies are sealed off from male access. More sexually available females in almost always a stabilizing factor in any society.

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>>133885497
Reality.

>>133885619
>>133885497
what about transbians?

>>133885497
they're gay

>>133899496
Why would I accept a worse situation than is currently the case? If straight partnerships merit a discount if I agree to them for life, why should gays be treated as second class citizens in the eyes of the law? I don't think anyone would volunteer to be treated worse if they could avoid it.

>>133899700

I feel sorry for you but hate your mum in absentia for selfishly propelling you along a via dolorosa of total biological failure. I hope you find peace...although I know you never will until you step beyond the threshold of your horrible past by confronting your torturer.

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Why are dykes more violent and more controlling than gay or heterosexual people? I mean I have seen a really sweet lesbian couple on a plane many years ago, yet are there any stats that can prove it?

>>133900407

I will make marriage only available for licensed hygienic procreation and divorce forbidden until the emancipation of the children. Legal. Moral. Fair. Just. Sane.

>>133900407
Because gay couples don't produce children. Which is the primary reason for marriages to have any tax benefits at all.

>why should gays be treated as second class citizens in the eyes of the law
that's the essence of the problem with this discussion: you just cannot miss an opportunity to take a justifiable, loose concept or idea that may offend you and start shouting slogans.
Then how are we supposed to talk it out?

>>133885497

I don't hate people for being gay, I just hate that the gay movement of the past 20-30 years is politicized from the start.

It's a 2 edged sword of:

>Fewer white children

>99.9999% of all LGBT people are insanely bluepilled YASSSS faggots.

>And the 0.0001% that aren't, and who are "out" (heh) about it, are called all sorts of names, treated like shit, and "Are not 'real' gay men/women".

Fuck the LGBT community.

--a huge fag.

>>133885497
>Why does pol hate the gays?
Promoted, normalized and endorsed by the Jews.

>>133900779

The genetic imperative of competing for normal pairing involved resources overwhelms their mental illness.

>>133901132

Nothing but a cry for help.

>>133900970
Good luck!

>>133900982
Surrogacy and adoption. Also, infertile couples are not taxed differently. The tax reward is for pairing off, not for having kids.

But I mean, it really is second class citizenry to view yourself as attracted to the same sex, as strongly as you are to the opposite sex, but with a different set of rules for your attractions.

Your idea of changing taxation just is not likely to ever happen considering the protests that would come from infertile people and couples that choose not to have kids.

>>133887714
>So you don't support equal marriage? Why not?
Marriage has always been about one man and one woman for the purposes of creating a family.

You can't "redefine" marriage any more than you can "redefine" gender.

Marriage was never about homosexuals. It's not yours. It never will be.

>>133885497
Because it's a fetish for about 95% of them.

I came across a handful of gay dudes in the USMC and in school/work. I was always super friendly to them and i usually got questions in. Only 1 of them i actually believed was gay.

The rest suffered from abuse or had anime obsessions/disturbing fetishes. A black guy i met only fucked other men because he couldn't fuck his GF and it was made into a "open relationship" but only to same sex.

The guy that i actually think was "born gay" went through 5th grade + openly gay. He had a BF and said he wanted to wait for marriage for sex. He had really supportive parents too.

That shit in your webm op, thats fetish. It's also money. It looks like a into to some sort of porn you dumb fuck.

>>133885700
Nigger detected.
Go fuck a sheeboon in Africa, nigger.

>>133901311

Luck will have nothing to do with it....which is why you will experience nothing but empty manic false highs followed by soul crushing abyss shadowed lows. I dare to will to do.

>>133901132
I got a boner
Does this mean I'm gay?

>>133901311
>Surrogacy and adoption
Which are social constructs.

Faggots can't breed and raise families by themselves.

Hell, the word family was never intended to apply to faggots. That's yet another thing you're attempting to redefine.

Eventually once you and our Jewish masters have had their way, the word family won't mean anything because it will apply to everything.

"Oh? you want to marry a plant/animal/car/child and be in a family with it? Okay!"

There is a message here....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csLB3-_BeSs

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>>133885497
here is why

>>133901838
Marriage has never require children though...

It originally was a property transfer of a woman from her father to another unrelated man in exchange for money.

I don't think surrogacy is exactly fully a social construct. There is a bit of biology involved and the egg is almost never biologically that of the woman carrying it.

Marriage is to encourage monogamy, which is a noble goal in and of itself.

>>133889565
Yes goy, watch porn instead of using that testosterone for useful things goy

>>133901311
>infertile couples are not taxed differently
they're not, becasue the potential is there

as I thought we agreed, the surrogacy/adoption discussion should be postponed for at least 20 years.

I'm not sure you're aware that marriage and adoption are 2 very different things for conservatives to swallow. And for your sake they should be separate discussions. LGBT in Poland fucks itself in two ways: the pride parade and always talking about adoption along with marriage laws.


>>133901426
>>133885700
nog and/or gay

>>133901801

If you didn't have the urge to mow those "people" down then yes, you're gay

>>133902116
But the potential literally isn't there for infertile couples. They would have to choose fertile people outside of their marriage to use the eggs/sperm of just like gays would with surrogacy.

>for my sake

try not to be patronizing

>>133885497
Why do you fucking fags keep asking? FUCK OFF.

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>>133896942
Old King Tut scene from Boardwalk Empire:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUe77aDJl5E
>Meg Steedle as Lillian 'Billie' Kent / Billie Kent

More where this came from but i lost them. Never a cutfag in sight. Trigger warning. We dont really hate them just the confused hard ons we get for apparent cheap vaginas with our gay, straight, porn. https://amateur-gay-sex-videos-only.tumblr.com/post/162649212245/

>>133902059
>Marriage has never require children though...
Marriage leads to children. That's the purpose of marriage. The beginning of a family. If a man and woman are married and aren't having children, they're doing it wrong.

>It originally was a property transfer of a woman from her father to another unrelated man in exchange for money.
And propagation of the species.

>Marriage is to encourage monogamy, which is a noble goal in and of itself.
Then why do faggots fail so badly at it?
How many average sexual partners do faggots have? 50? 100?
How about that STD rate? Still at 50%?

>>133902059
Marriage originally was a property transfer of a woman from her father to another unrelated man in exchange for money
to have sex with her, and therefore children. Barren women were never worth anything

>Marriage is to encourage monogamy, which is a noble goal in and of itself
agreed

>>133902254

The imagined hate of others helps to hold them up above the acute suppressed hate they feel for their mums so they won't feel the shards of unpleasant self-truth pierce their false egos.

>>133902428
It isn't the purpose of marriage though. Marriage is about two people agreeing to be together for life. Traditional marriage vows don't say "and you shall have children together!".

Marriage being for children is literally a social construct. Marriage is a legal contract that confers rights to better taxes, health benefits, and child-rearing arrangements. Of course gays would want those things and they have long existed in a secular context and have never been explicitly penalized at the federal level for infertility. Till death do you part, not till kids do you fuck.

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>>133901725
D E G E N E R A C Y

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>>133885602
>No QT bf

>>133902229
I understand where you're coming from, but we're talking about creating a law. Fertility testing funded by IRS won't happen. Laws like marriage are about broad concepts. And in broad view the truth is what's been written here a lot: gays can't have kids, straight couples can.
And the surrogacy/adoption possibility, when we can't agree on who it effects the kids, becomes weaker as an argument

>try not to be patronizing
I'm not being patronizing, I'm offering advice on ho are you (gay community) seen from outside. i would think valuable, as I see this mistake over and over again. You alienate people

>>133902826
>It isn't the purpose of marriage though.
Yes, it is. You faggots don't get to determine/reinterpret the purpose of marriage.

>Of course gays would want those things
Just because you want to be treated like you're normal doesn't mean you're normal.

You're mentally ill. Society should not normalize mental illness.

>>133903161
I think so much of the research condemning gays so far has focused on intact vs. broken homes. If you had something that said like female kids need female women to grow up with to be psychologically healthy I'd believe it but there are single parents of both genders and we allow that. You couldn't ban single parents without banning divorce and that is extremely unlikely.

>>133903336
Where does a marriage license say anything about kids? You can get one in a courtroom and it is a legal agreement.

>>133885497
They don't keep it to themselves.

>>133902254
Good point

>>133893953
you faggots are already fucked in the head, don't spread it to children.

>>133903619
It isn't a cold, you cannot catch it.

>>133903439
>Where does a marriage license say anything about kids?
Marriage license is a way for the state to control and tax people. It has no bearing on marriage and a couple.

>You can get one in a courtroom and it is a legal agreement.
And yet you're still not married because marriage was never intended for faggots. No matter what the kike controlled government says.

>>133903619
>ronaldo's not his dad
Sucks to be you

>>133903745
I'm not married because I haven't found a man I want to marry yet.

>>133903716
>you can't be influenced to have alternative sexuality
>blatantly ignore the last ten years of identity politics within he progressive sphere
Right, your mental illness is "real" while the others are clearly just faking it.

>>133903943
It isn't a mental illness.

>>133903439
>there are single parents of both genders
and the data we have on that is horrifying. we do allow it and I see how it would make it unfair for gay couples.
But i think that the christians got right - divorces should barely ever happen.
Actually I think he >>133900970 had a good idea: to forbid divorce until child is considered mature.

>>133904050
Only as a result of political pressure.

>>133903890
>I'm not married because I haven't found a man I want to marry yet.
You can't ever be married because marriage was never intended to be for homosexuals.

Even if the state says you're "married" it doesn't matter because you're not actually married. You'll be living a lie.

>>133904050
>shoving 100's of different dicks up your ass until you die of an STD, cancer and/or suicide.
>not a mental illness
Pick one.


>>133904178
>Only as a result of jewish pressure.
ftfy ;)

>>133904072
Christians have extremely high rates of divorce.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/puzzling-paradox-study-finds-higher-divorce-rate-among-conservative-protestants/

Christianity has utterly failed as a bulwark against divorce and single parenthood.

>>133904178
As a result of societal attitudes changing. Gays were being thrown into asylums and many people were upset by locking people up for their consensual sexual preference. "Mental illness" is a form of social control and gays are too broad of a group to be controlled by such a categorization. If it had biological basis it would be known as illness.

>>133885497
Regardless of what the (((media))) says, faggots are still accepted as much as they put on. And more people are waking up to the bullshit everyday. Have fun getting killed by a pissed off reactionary. Youv all earned it.

>>133904324
>Christians have extremely high rates of divorce.
Thanks to the destruction of traditional marriage and the traditional family.

This shit has been going on for decades.

It's planned.

>Christianity has utterly failed as a bulwark against divorce and single parenthood.
Christianity is not promoted and is in fact demonized by the media and government.

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Honestly gays just need to accept that people are going to find them disgusting. It's not for everyone. Just fuck off and keep it to yourself.

When you give them an inch they try to take a mile.

>>133904324
I never said it had a biological basis, nor do many conditions which qualify as illnesses. Induced illness as a result of trauma, read: sexual assault at an early age, can lead to complexes which many endure for the rest of their life. Congratulations, your mother and father aren't responsible for why you're fucked in the head, you're still fuck in the head. Social attitudes have zero to do with what determines whether or not your behavior, is, in actuality, deviant.

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>>133885497
You think trannies look like that ever? No, this is your average tranny. Even then, trannies are degenerate.

>>133885497
fucking source you fucking faggot

>>133904324
Sorry, I was thinking of catholics and the rules, not the reality, kek. In Catholicism it's almost impossible to get a divorce by a church (people get only civil divorces, and can't remarry in catholic faith).

>>133904050
>It isn't a mental illness
That's actuallty not conclusive and obvious. I know that you absolutely hate that comparison, but please bear with me, for the sake of this argument:
in that case, are zoophilia, someotherphilia, pedophlia not mental illnesses?
How do homosexual people logically explain the line? I'm really curious

>>133904715
>Just fuck off and keep it to yourself.
They can't because to the faggot, their sexual identity is literally their entire being.

If they can't be a faggot in public and force to you acknowledge it then it's like they literally don't exist.

>When you give them an inch they try to take a mile.
Because they're not done. Once homosexuality is the norm (and heterosexuality is the aberration) and everyone blindly accepts and tolerates it, then the faggots will be done. But by then it will be too late.

>>133904868
Mental illness generally means if it is bad enough you can be locked up against your will for it. Most people, though obviously not all, agree that being sexually attracted to men is not grounds for institutionalization.

Those are straw men. Homosexuality is generally restricted to consensual relationships with other adult males. Mental illness is defined by society's ability to lock up said individuals against their will, and that is seen as excessive as homosexuality is not expressly predictive of suicidal or homicidal behavior.

I dunno would be interesting to see what you think gay people think are the answers to all the logical fallacies you can propose rather than have me do it since I think you are capable of understanding our perspective (I hope you are not too autistic).

Because pol is full of people with nothing better to do than worry about what other people do in private.

Basically "stop liking what I don't like" turned into a political party

>>133905565
>Because pol is full of people with nothing better to do than worry about what other people do in private.
Homosexuals don't keep it private though.

And what they're doing is contributing to the destruction of White society.

>Basically "stop liking what I don't like" turned into a political party
You say that like it's a bad thing.

god almighty i just hate children

>>133892676
Amen, ignore the mockers

>>133885497
Gays have a bad habit of seeking the destruction of the societies in which they live, even when treated well by those societies. People are right to be suspicious of them.

>>133885619
lol, have you ever been in a Lesbian club? Trust me, they have nothing to do with porn.

>>133904840
>source
https://vimeo.com/73652680

>>133905127
I think I'm empathic as fuck, actually.
I'm really curious to hear your counter arguments to shit like >should we tolerate pedophiles then?
as whenever I go into discussion about any of these issues with my mostly conservative friends, I, as an ex-liberal, am the one who argues against totally dismissing the issue of gay marriage or adoption by same sex couples.
And to crystallize my thoughts on the issue.

I think a lot of arguments you can read in posts above come from disgust. And I also think a lot of people want to live an unconventional, historically speaking, life, with little to no consequence. And that's why many gay people would argue to the death that homosexuality is natural (meaning: not natures fluke) instead of accepting that it may not be (like, let's say autism or albinos). And that's wasted energy on both parts: gays try to 'fit in', when they really shouldn't have to, they could be their own thing. And the disgusted don't like when you mess with their definition of things.
That's an argument I hear a lot "why do they have to call it marriage".

>>133885497
no it doesnt... We hate fags... who push their shit in your face and wants you to understand their disgusting fetishes with force

>>133885497

OP see>>133902038

>>133906912
>no it doesnt... We hate fags..
They're all fags. None of them should exist in White society

>>133885497
when do they get their dicks out?

>>133904715
>>133904931
Enjoy your stinky cancerous fish yeast gfs that can't nurture shit. Cheap vaginas. From us. Go fucken use em and diddle yourselves. Defiled cretins

>>133893480
>Faggot got rekt
Go cry on plebbit

>>133908275
The words used in corinthians are mistranslations. They didnt even exist but the concepts did. Leviticus applies to lay men as much as your polyester and bacon do. Kike. And feminist. Literally the worst

>>133908394
>posts frogs
>pastes molech whores onto freudian "gays"
Grab em blah blah too many of these fucking threads. Latents gon latent

>>133908270
>Enjoy your stinky cancerous fish yeast gfs that can't nurture shit. Cheap vaginas. From us. Go fucken use em and diddle yourselves. Defiled cretins
lmao...you faggots are riddled with std's cancers and various other mental illnesses.

Not to mention ANAL FISSURES

>>133908394
>The words used in corinthians are mistranslations
Lies.

>>133898640
You people make the secular world cringe, soon you will have zero allies and sympathizers, the cycle will cease to repeat itself soon.

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>>133893697
>>133895703
>>133901426
>>133902116
oh look, the tiny penis bitch boys are letting everyone know how much they fear a full, robust, womanly rear end as it would only remind them that their little boy clit wouldn't be able to pleasure such a woman. what a surprise. enjoy your impotent rage, inbred retards. i'll enjoy laughing at you for it.

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>>133909021
I think you mean the religious world...and even that is changing.

>>133909651
LMAO!!
Religion is only dwindling in the secular world and to be clear I don't worship no sandnigger ape god. Faggots stand no chance against mudslimes they are projected to become the dominant religion in the near future.

>>133885497
Because they are degenerates.

>>133892184
aids

>>133885700
accept the jew has infected your mind witht his ass meme.

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>>133901801
No.

Seeing a penis arouses a lot of guys because your lizard-brain assumes that a guy is fucking a woman while you are not. It doesn't realize that you're watching a video and there's no man for you to be competing against, unlike your higher brain functions. Now go fuck a woman like your animal instinct is telling you to, you nerdvirgin.

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>>133885497
>those asses

hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggg

>>133885497

I don't care about gays, as long as they arn't trying to teach it to my kids, or forcing me to bake them a penis cake

>>133916223
The gay couple in the Masterpiece Cakeship case soon to be before the Supreme Court did not request an explicit cake.

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>>133885497
because gays dont look like that they look like this pic related

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>>133917120

>gay and explicit arn't the same thing

>>133885619
>hes never encountered dykes that actively go after straight girls
>hes never encountered dykes that spend their time trying to ruin straight relationships