FEDERAL RESERVE PLANNING MARKET CRASH BEFORE 2018

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>Something big changed since 2000. It can be seen in the employment-population ratio, which tracks people over 16 years of age who have jobs
>From the 1960s until 2000, the ratio fell during recessions, but then during the recovery regained all the lost ground plus some, ratcheting up to new records after each recession
>since the ratio’s peak in April 2000 at 64.7%, a new pattern has developed. As before, the ratio drops before the official recession begins and keeps dropping until after the recession has ended. But when employment recovers, the ratio ticks up only slowly, recovering only a fraction of the ground lost
>the ratio plunged from 63.4% to 58.2% in November 2010 and again in June and July 2011. It plunged 5.2 percentage points in 4.5 years
>But the employment-population ratio only made it to 60.1%. It regained only 1.9 percentage points, after having plunged 5.2 percentage points. In other words, after seven-plus years of jobs recovery, it has regained less than one-third of what it had lost:
>Since the bottom of the employment crisis in February 2010, the economy has created 16.7 million jobs as measured by nonfarm payrolls. During the same time, the population has grown by 16.7 million people. Not all of this population growth is working age. But this is the problem that the employment-population ratio depicts: jobs are being created, but not enough for the dual task of absorbing the growth in the working-age population and in putting people back to work who lost their jobs during the recession.
>During the next employment downturn, the employment-population ratio will get crushed — from a much lower base than during the prior recessions. And even as the economy recovers afterwards and generates 150,000 to 220,000 jobs a month, the employment-population ratio will barely budge higher and will recapture only a fraction of the ground lost during the recession.

http://archive.is/KXBLW

>>133157169

Nah, shit's gonna be fine. Bull market's gonna keep on trucking - Buy, baby, buy!

Ron Paul was right again

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http://archive.is/8WO1T

In short, the problem facing the Fed right now is that they either need unemployment to quickly rise a few points, or else inflation is going to accelerate out control

>>133157327
They'll crash it and let Trump be the scapegoat
We're about on time for another recession and for most of the population, the current recession never ended

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>>133157169
>>133157210

They are going crash the dollar, Not the market.
Money will pour into the market.
So we might have a 50,000 DOW but also have $11 for a gallon of gas.

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>>133158427

>They are going crash the dollar, Not the market.

How to profit if all you have is cash?

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>>133158427
WITH NO SURVIVORS!

>>133157169
Wouldn't it be hard to "crash" the market if the market is expecting it?

>>133159128
Gold.

>>133159574
>if the market is expecting it?
Markets are used to the eternal QE and being endlessly pumped
Watch Goldman to see when the hammer is going to drop

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>>133157791
Don't be a fool, the U.S. Dollar is the choice currency by nearly the entire world.
A crashing U.S. Dollar would trigger a global depression, leveling Rich and Poor to the same wealth class and crashing the rest of the world currencies like Dominoes.
Do you really think the rich bastards in charge would let that happen?

>>133158427
see >>133159914

>>133159128
Also assuming they merely knock the markets rather than kick off WWIII you might think about holding some cash aside to buy into what could be a pretty significant dip.

I've got an overexposure to treasuries at the moment that I'll be reallocating next time we get a good solid market correction.

>>133159715
What do you think of BTC as a store of value vs dollar?

>>133160466
Should I just wait for a big correction and buy a mutual fund or something? Is there a smarter option for a know-nothing??

>>133157169
We will be fine. Knock it off with the fear porn. The market depends on confidence. It's an illusion anyways.

>>133160647
If you don't really know what you're doing mutual funds aren't a terrible choice. I've got a bunch of savings locked up in a 401(k) where I don't have a lot of options for what to do with it, so in my case I would transfer a bunch of funds out of the treasury-based fund into one or more market-based funds.

I'll have to take a look at what the available fund offerings are to see if there are any I think that might be significant growth areas. But my default option will be the "figure it out for me like I'm dumb and shift my risk ratio automatically over time as if I'm going to be retiring in 2050" type funds. Last time I checked, they do relatively well for somebody who isn't going to go in and rejigger things all the time.

>>133160575
If you value your money go with gold.
If you are willing to risk big dolla you may succeed and gain more with Bitcoin.

>>133160575
rofl

oh boy, I can't wait for this to not happen.
as all the happening threads on this board.

Wow.

Everyone is clueless. Even on /pol/, people really don't know.

The dollar will begin to experience hyperinflation this Summer. Yes, as in a few weeks to a month from today.

And don't think (((they))) would do anything to stop it. They're asses are already covered.

>>133159128
precious metals, cryptocurrency, and actual assets

so silver, gold, bitcoin, real estate, etc. real shit

the only way to profit is with real shit. no more monopoly money

>>133161314
That would interfere too much with US geopolitical force projection unless it were done in concert with the rest of the world suffering as much or worse.

For now they can just let existing problems with e.g. state budgets, pensions, and commercial real estate continue to worsen. That should be enough to start applying pressure that would eventually result in forcing government action, which is really the main strategic use of having kept the current bull market going as long as it has (other than keeping the major players in power).

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So you guys are saying to short the dollar?
Count me in

>owe nobody money
>have tens of thousands in bank
>work for self in robust market

Let the stock price hit the floor.

>>133161502

>implying real estate isn't an actual asset

>>133161502
and all these assets are already super expensive. fuck me

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HAPPENING CONFIRMED.


for real this time

>>133161703

whoops, read the post wrong, also I suck cock

>>133161592
I'd be weary of any sort of 'on paper' investment. I mean you could short the dollar but vs. what? Another fiat currency that may or may not shit the bed a little bit less? Be careful senpai.

>>133157169
They should let it happen and Trump can pull off another Reagan or Harding/Coolidge.

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>>133157210
The official LFPR is still near modern lows. This is despite more women entering the workforce, which means that males are the ones dropping out. Women are working in sectors like "healthcare" that suck up money but don't really provide a lot of productivity for the broader economy. It all bodes poorly.

>>133159914
that's the idea

Pukey Janet Yellen gets on stage and announces there will never be another crash, months before she directly causes one!

>>133161701
ready comprehension bro. I said it was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mt0ee9FraQ

if your gonna tease the song fucking post it cunt

>>133161568
I mean, I'm not saying palpable economic collapse this summer guise.

But, the hyperinflation will begin, and the wealth transfer out of fiat currency will begin this summer.

>>133161703
you can buy fractional amounts of bitcoin. even just a couple bucks.

>>133157169

>>133161709

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>>133157169
Convince me that this "FED crash" won't be fake and gay like all the others

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>>133160575
>BTC as a store of value

>>133159914
Look at Venezuela, that was just a test to see how bad they can make it for all of us.... they pushed Opec to over produce oil production and crash the price of oil... killing the socialist country that was only surviving because of their oil.

>>133157169

They won't do it and here's why because of automation the next crash they cause they won't be able to control the situation and they need the robot armies in place.

Hence they can't fuck Trump without fucking themselves.

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>>133162556

>>133162315
We might be using different version of hyperinflation. I regard that as a situation where inflation takes off to the point where you start to come around the belly of the J curve where it runs away.

While I do think we'll continue to see increasing inflation, I don't think they're going to intentionally let it get out of hand at this juncture. Doesn't seem necessary or desirable.

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>>133162556
lol

>>133158427

Yes that they can do since it won't cause massive unemployment levels it will just wipe out savers...

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>>133157169
Ok there are a few major flaws:
1. The last 5 years have been years after a recovery. Don't forget about 2008.
Many companies still have not reached their value pre-2008 niveau.
2. What about buyback? Is that part of your equation as well?
Companies use quite a lot of their money for buying back shares, this has an effect as well.

That said even if markets rushed back to their 'adjusted value' there may be a point when they have reached it. The question is:
If markets trade future, where in the future are we exactly now under which assumed parameters?

Please fucking do. Please please please. I've finally gotten debt free and have cash to buy in when the crash hits, and I literally can't be fired from my job.

If the crash hits at just the right moment and drags on a good year or so, I could easily set myself up FOR LIFE. So please do let it crash.

>>133157169
good the kike killing can begin in 2018 then. This is what shot Hitler to power. 1488

If you're really that scared about a market correction, just go full value and load up on low P/E, low P/FCF stocks.
If someone tells you to put your money in gold, snicker at them and walk away.

>>133161592
PMs are the best inflation hedge.

>>133159128
Guns guns guns. & ammo hahaha xdxd

>>133164501
Good idea for part of your portfolio. Weapons are typically a good store of value, and getting some now would represent buying low.

>>133163033
why cant you get fired from your job?

>>133165250
Military. I've got a contractual obligation that doesn't end for at least the next 6 years. Starting next month all I'm doing is stacking cash because all my bills are paid off.

>>133165390
Contractual obligations are a very bad thing to have in an inflationary scenario, unless payment specifically adjusts for inflation.

>>133161609
If that's true, you've got more to do to be safe. Start moving money you can live without into foreign currencies in safety deposit boxes in other the country of those currencies. When the dollar crashes the Feds won't be able to electronically steal that money from your account or destroy it with hyperinflation. As long as the currency is relatively stable your "money" won't disappear. John T. Reed, an economically redpilled real estate guy, has detailed how to do this on his blog.

>>133166279
If shit gets bad though you could reasonably expect currency controls that would make it even more difficult to get whatever you have stashed in a foreign country than usual.

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>>133157169
oy vey no more shekels?

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>>133162623

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TENDENCY FOR RATE OF PROFIT TO FALL

>>133161314
>Everyone is clueless. Even on /pol/, people really don't know.
They are too heavily invested in the (((system))). Can't wait to see it all go up in smoke.

>>133162623
So what do we do? Buy silver and gold?

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An-cap here. The most effective way people learn is by their mistakes.


Right wing libertarians are always right.
Janusz Korwin Mikke
Ron Paul
Christopher Cantwell
And in the far future
Hans Herman Hoppe


Good luck to you when the recession comes, keynesians will be the cause of fall of western civilization.

>>133161502

Screw real estate its also in a bubble. Silver/cryptos, guns, ammo, food and survival gear.

>>133157169
Every time /pol/ has a stock market thread it is always wrong

>>133167546
This is also true.

>>133167546
Except for maybe *coin /pol/ almost never been all that far off the mark. You just have to know, as with any other topic on /pol/, how to filter out the meming and HAPPENING fun.

>>133167760
I remember last year we were having a thread about the impending market crash that never materialized

>>133157169
Negative bro. Only one way to go and that is up.

Printing more money is the only way to clear debt so that is what will happen. $20 Trillion for the feds. $13 trillion consumer.

If the stock market falls all pension plans collapse and all state/local governments go bankrupt. Total systemic collapse.

The only thing that can be guaranteed is that the stock market will keep going up, no matter how much other shit it fucks up.

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>>133167546
see >>133166971
If you aren't redpilled on the JQ then it'll go right over your head. It's all going to plan.
>ramp up conflict in the Middle East
>world economies starting to suffer from unsustainable usery
>massive social unrest and racial tension
>cultural and religious wars

>>133157169
give me the lowdown.

>>133159914
Where there is a crash there are always those who profit

>>133167956
ZeroHedge has been having that thread for 10 fucking years. lol. market crashing soon. buy gold.

>>133163300
Want to know one reason why your conspiracy theories about the federal reserve aren't taken seriously? Because there is a hefty dose of anti-semitic dogshit mixed in. They actually sort of make sense without all of the bigoted propaganda. So keep that in mind the next time you try to recruit people to your side.

>>133167956
You mean the shemitah stuff? If you were to have read those threads more carefully, you'd have found that the majority of the level-headed discussion was in agreement that, while the conditions for it happening were there, it seemed clearly overhyped as well as unlikely to play out in the fashioned claimed in any case.

>>133167956
>>133168144
And look at how much shittier world economies have gotten. It's not a matter of IF but WHEN. There are clues everywhere.

>>133168030
Why would the Jews do this?

Don;t they realize that this time /pol/ is here and we already have Hitler to study from?

If the white man has nothing to lose because he lost everything in the crash...nothing is going to stop normal Americans from going full 14/88

>>133166783
Correct. But if you have a valid passport you can get out of the country and travel the world on your saved cash, for a few years if necessary, until the inflation calms down.

>>133167956

The next crash is always just around the corner.

For real, though: they happen every 8-10 years and it's been almost 10

>>133161568

China and Russia have been buying tons of gold since 2008.

China has recently launched its campaign to put the final nail into the coffin of the petro dollar. They are opening up gold futures markets in hong kong redeemable for gold. If you are unaware the price of gold/silver in the US is artificially suppressed. Here is an article showing just today they launched their gold futures market.
http://www.scmp.com/business/banking-finance/article/2101919/gold-futures-physical-delivery-make-their-hong-kong-debut

China also plans to launch a gold backed crypto currency. The gold will be stored in Chinas vault and regularly auditted. China will allow for transparency, because having an honest system is key to the dollars death.

The gulf states are also breaking up. Saudi Arabia is for the first time visiting Russia. Might end up selling oil to Russia and China outside the dollar. Qatar and Iran have already made this move. Germany looks like it will break ranks and work with Russia around US sanctions. These are just some example of how the US dollar is being cut out of the global market.

Now the real problem will come when all those countries that hold US dollars in debt try to spend it in the last market that accepts trade in US dollars, which is us.

>>133168144
Zerohedge has always existed in part as kind of a counter-psyop operation, kind of like how Max Keiser operates. But yeah once it got popular it ruined its credibility by focusing on predicting the end of the world every week.

I'll go to /biz/ and ask them how soon is the next one coming.

>>133168322
Because 1) economics is not anything close to an exact science and because 2) the Fed has been distorting the marketplace with its monetary policy for decades.

>>133167428

I would make sure you have a couple months of food & some extra ammo first... but PMs seem like good insurance against a turbulent economy.

>>133159914
The Chinese RMB will crash WAY before the USD ever will.

Screencap this post plebs

>>133168193
not really. eventually they start to wonder why the jew meme even exists.
now they're down the rabbit hole.

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>>133157169
DON'T WORRY TRUMP WILL STOP THIS RHT?

>>133157169

/pol/ is red pilled on politics and culture but not economic issues.

Watch

Hidden Secrets of Money episodes 4,6 and 7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyV0OfU3-FU&list=PLE88E9ICdipidHkTehs1VbFzgwrq1jkUJ

>>133168377
Yeah, it's interesting that all that 2008-era stuff is being saber-rattled again. But back then it looked as if the NWO might really almost be around the corner. Today there's enough unpredictability in the world that I'm not sure it would be in China's best interest to upset the apple cart too much.

>>133168605
You're right. The Chinese marketplace is a house of cards. Nobody who works with money trusts the numbers they put out.

>>133168698
>t. Communist

>>133157169
test
>>>133157169

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>>133168252
>Why would the Jews do this?
It's not just Jews, it's the people at the top giving the orders (most of whom are (((Jewish.)))) There are people of all creed and color working for this global conspiracy and most don't even know it, and believe they are good people.

>Don;t they realize that this time /pol/ is here and we already have Hitler to study from?
Dude we're just a tiny fringe minority of people. Ever tried redpilling anyone else IRL before? They will think you're crazy and shun you.

>If the white man has nothing to lose because he lost everything in the crash...nothing is going to stop normal Americans from going full 14/88
White men have been under attack by Jews and shitskins for thousands of years, you are right that we are warriors. We will have to fight hard, and smart, to save our species. But the problem is most people won't know who to fight or what to do without strong leadership, and in a society post economic crash (massive civil unrest, civil wars, collapsed society, no laws) it will be chaos.

I don't think this will be the end for humanity, but it will be the greatest human-related event in the history of Earth. In a few years time most of us will be dead. If you aren't dead you'll wish you were.

>>133157169
Fuck off. I'm not believing any happening prophecy after I got bamboozled hard with shemitah.

>>133157169

The Volatility index is almost at an all time low, meaning that investors essentially believe the market is doing well and will continue to do well. Literally no one but autistic Chicken Littles on /pol/ believe that the market is going to crash anytime soon.

>>133161857

My guess would be all other fiats would fail before the dollar. Since the dollar is the reserve currency for all others. This might not happen if a major country tied their currency to physical gold or silver

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>>133157169
>mfw the rest of the world cannot survive without the american middle class coming back

>>133169338
It's always darkest before the dawn, and vice versa.

>>133168252
The plan is to usher in the authoritarian police superstate to enslave humanity

We're entering the final phase of the NWO. More than 90% of the world's population is about to be exterminated

>>133169409
this
It's gonna be crazy. Buy guns and ammo now now now now. You have less than 6 months.

>>133169338
I've always been of the expectation that VIX is going to dupe the chicken littles when things get too crazy (no time to go into detail) but this is actually unironically one of the times where I'd think of putting a little money on in in anticipation that chicken littelry is going to be on the rise.

>>133169391
its always dawnest before the dark

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>>133169523

>>133157169
>>bankruptcies are surging

Probably because people can cheaply get rid of all their shitty debt from the past 10 years and get better interest rates.

>>133169596
kek

>>133168605
>>133168773
It already crashed 40% in 2015-16 something until they stopped it (through manipulation), so..

>>133169704
And how much more manipulation can it take before it breaks? This ain't no fucking playdough we're talking about here.

>>133168713

They don't really have a choice. The next debt crisis is a central bank debt crisis. The only tool left in the feds tool box is hyper inflation.

>>133169108
What's your plan anon? Where are you heading to avoid the apocalypse? I'm thinking rural Canada is the safest place atm

New Zealand seems to be pretty good, but near the South China Sea which could pose some problems in the event of a war near the South China Sea between the US and China

Rural Australia?

Where do we go to escape the incoming shitstorm?

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>>133169783
>unlimited shekels

Guys, people at >>>/biz/ are freaking the fuck out.

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>>133157169


There's a lot going on out there
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/NCBTIIQ027S

>>133169783
I used to thing that, but it's not 2008 anymore. They'll go through other machinations before the central bank crisis.

That's more of a nuclear option at this point considering the lack of coherence on a NWO replacement these days that doesn't depend on making it all the way to automation.

>>133169883

Crypto markets are down /biz/ is on suicide watch. The time to buy in is in the next 2 weeks

>>133157638
>TrumpsaysWrong.jpg
Inflation is so low right now experts are questioning why the fed wants to raise interest rates

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>>133169852
I'm staying put here in the Western USA. My plan is to build up a massive cache of guns and ammo. I will then find a house or building similar in structure to the Call of Duty: WAW nazi zombies map Nacht der Untoten. I will proceed to build up the doors and windows with wooden planks, and place various weapons around the facility.
When shit hits the fan, I will fall back to this stronghold and hold off as many shitskins as possible until my inevitable death. Upon death, or near it, I will inject myself with a concoction of LSD, DMT, mushrooms, heroine, and any other drug I can get my hands on. With this flush of endorphins, cannabinoids, and psychedelic medicine and the accompanying natural DMT release from my pineal gland, I will transcend the physical realm and become a transient god.

Pol is always right, except for when it comes to the economy

>>133170029

Maybe they could if the leadership in the West was united. Trump and the fed are not on the same side and frankly I don't think either one would mind a crash. They both think they can pin the blame on each other. A crisis is the only way Trump can cut many programs, it also cuts off funding the deep state and would allow us to remove the root cause of the problem which is the Fed.

On the Feds side, they think they can blame Trump, install someone from the deep state and restart the monetary system with some kind of SDR.

>Be nearly 100k in debt
>earn maybe 800 dollars a month in disposable income
>Bankers expect me to pay them back

Let the market crash, idgaf.

>>133170903
You gotta hand it to these fuckers. They are like cockroaches. They are master manipulators. Thing is without a host civilization to feed off of what does the eternal Jew have in store for the next thousand years?

>>133157791

Trump has something that can ruin them though, and that can destroy the (((bankers))) if, when, the market crashes;

Twitter.

>>133170903

You forgot the part were they get to buy all the assests that get defaulted on with newly printed money

>>133170139
No, you'd be an idiot to buy now or anytime soon.

All the cryptocurrencies are crashing or about to crash because of the massive glut of GPU mining power that just entered the market which is creating a massive oversupply of coins with no buyers - in large part because it's too fucking difficult for the layman to buy any coins.

Coin production isn't even going to stop when it becomes unprofitable, simply because a lot of people who bought GPU's to mine are total retards who don't realize there's electricity costs involved. They're going to produce coins even while it costs them money.

Couple irrational oversupply + saturated market demand = prices drop through the floor

And it'll happen to all the currencies, as miners hop around trying to mine anything that'll give them money.

Maybe I'll actually be able to buy a fucking GPU now.

>>133170366
Nice anon, very nice.

I'm intending to take a plane ticket to rural canada and do some voluntary work as a farmer or some shit. I'm gonna go as deep into the countryside as possible to increase my chances of survival. Then I can just live off the farmland and while away the rest of my days in solitude

Or at least that's the plan. I'll probably get picked off by roaming mobs of bandits looking for food or hunted by machines like in the Terminator when the NWO goes into its full extermination phase

>>133157169
>Before 2018
We would see signs in the market by now if that was the case though. Like we did in 2008.

>>133170785
Obvious options that I've been expecting ever since we didn't have a sensible correction under Obama, but I still think that's the nuclear option at this point. They might lose it and I'm in the camp that thinks it more than likely we'll see something of a crash at the latest after the 2018 elections for whatever reason.

But at this point I think both sides have too much interest in salvaging our superpower status by way of leveraging the power of the USD printing press, and that means both sides ought to see it as potential leverage for control that extends to global control.

I doubt they'd intentionally set off the bomb unless all other options were exhausted (or unless a superior system from their perspective were within reach).

>>133171390
Make a plan and stick to it! Godspeed anon. See you in white people's afterlife.

>>133171935
Godspeed to you too, deus vult!

>>133171644

The full collapse of the dollar in the US could take a decade, but the coming stock market crash is going to be a solid kickoff. Stocks, cars and houses at the very least need to crash by 50%.

>>133162046
Nicely posted, bong.

Follow closely the money of some key rats
>>Warren Buffet
https://www.gurufocus.com/StockBuy.php?GuruName=Warren+Buffett
>>George Soros
https://www.gurufocus.com/StockBuy.php?GuruName=George+Soros

They will tell you what is to come

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>>133166971
Pure coincidence about the owners and that the article said 2018 would be a world currency

>>133173238
I find it ironic they blatantly talk about their plans but most of the populace is too stupid or brainwashed to think anything of it.

>>133173238
that prediction came true. "free market" with no currency controls is defacto global currency when the "free market" is actually central banks colluding to rig everything.

>>133157169
Think of it this way. You make widgets whose prices you change annually based on inflation. Who goes and increases their prices exactly by the rate of inflation? Nobody. You figure out average prices and you each jew eachother to get the highest price for the most sales. The asshole buying your pooping stool is the one who temporarily borrows your debt in the form of interest payments

Good thing /pol/ is here with the inside scoop on what the market is going to do. The demonstrated insight, expertise, flexibility of thought, and unemotional level headed thinking displayed here on a regular basis is all the proof anyone should need to know all the answers are right here. Flat earth, Christianity, debating whether or not fucking a dude with fake tits and dressed as a girl is a homosexual act, and Happening threads. Now you're tackling the markets with the same sort of deep independent insight. Thank you. Truly thank you. If any of you are under the age of 18, still living at home, and/or are high school drop outs please include that in your analysis so I can give it the added weight it deserves.

>>133161502
>the only way to profit is real shit
>not monopoly money
>bitcoon

Bitcoon is LITERALLY monopoly money. It has no fucking value and is a fucking pyramid scheme.

If you """"invest"""" in bitcoin you are beyond retarded and deserve to lose your money, which you will certainly do.

Buy DRV if you think housing market will go down to the level that is affordable to millennials and genZ

>>133161314
>no argument given
Hyperinflation requires high velocity. Where exactly is that gonna come from?

>>133168193
>jews own all the banks and the federal reserve
>mentioning this is anti-semitism

The Jew is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

>>133157169
Too many Boomers can still pull triggers for a super crash to happen.

The (((Elite))) are too careful to hard crash the system in that way.

>>133166179
The last two stock market collapses weren't inflationary, there's no reason the next one would be either. In fact it would probably be deflationary because Trump is unlikely to bail out large failing companies/banks and permit quantitative easing.

>>133168698
where's the trump tweet of him saying we need a "good crash in september" to sort this out

>>133161314
>I can predict the future, it's everyone else that's clueless

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so if you go to usdebtclock.org and look at the amount of currency currently in circulation. you will notice its 3.7 trillion, then look at the amount in circulation in 2000 and its 600 billion.
inflation from 2000 to 2017 is which is about 40%
inflation is growing at an unstainable rate compared to wages, and only a fool would think this won't lead to a recession.
but if by some miracle trump actually saves the middle class, our debt will be worth a tenth of what it was. ready for those $1000 dollar bills to be printed again anons?

>>133177032
it will not lead to a recession. it will lead to a full collapse of the currency itself.

I trade as a side job for 50% of my living, I have bought a pool and a boat with my trading income. Yes, the market will crash, I have no idea when, but it will be big and probably never fully recover. The market is saturated with derivatives and unpayable pensions and bullshit of the like.

This will be big, very big. Trust me when I say big, the temporary fix they used to fix 2008 is going to bite us in the ass now. The world will never be the same again.

>>133178360
>The world will never be the same again.
Good. Fuck the Jewish owned monetary system. It's like ripping a bandaid off. Lots of people will die but so is life.

>>133159914
>A crashing U.S. Dollar would trigger a global depression, leveling Rich and Poor to the same wealth class and crashing the rest of the world currencies like Dominoes.
Lmao

Wealth isn't just in cash fuck tard

>>133158772
The federal reserve caused the great depression by removing 40% of the nation's money from circulation, causing and overnight deflationary crash overnight in 1929.

They have complete centralized control of the monetary system and absolutely can cause a crash whenever they want.

>>133178610
you're an idiot if you think the jews won't come out on top from this. they have all the tools to make an ark for themselves and set up a World 2.0 where they continue to be on top.

>>133168133
Kinda hard to make a profit when the plebs can't spend. You got to understand a lot of us are having to make choices to ethier eat to survive or miss a month's rent. For a lot of these companies to survive they need us plebs to spend money on thier product to make money. And if the plebs are not spending then money is not being made to which then money power gets so weak that eventually it gets to the point where it's better to use money as kindleing paper for fires then to actually use it for trade.
But what am I saying? The elites are retarded. There willing to destroy the world if it means they get more green paper even if that paper then becomes worthless because they are power drunk. For them they are a slave to money just like everyone else because for them it's never enough. You could literally hand the fucking world to them with loyal and obiedent slaves on a sliver platter and it would not be enough for them. They always want more. Can't wait for all this shit to backfire on them so they literaly have no where to run because they have destroyed every place in the world.

>>133179227

The Federal reserve is a foreign occupation of the US economy and since they use that money to spread establishment propaganda and pick candidates its more or less just an occupation. At the very least it needs to go, but really there needs to be trials over this bullshit.

>>133178898
>leveling to the same liquid capital class
does that read better to you?

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This man wants to start a race war in the States. Are you with him?

>>133180437
Does it include gassing the kikes?

>>133159128
How to make money you say.
Easy!
Buy in the mother of all dips.

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>this thread
What do I do to be prepared? Is it going to be an all out collapse bringing chaos with the peasants left to fight among themselves? Or the tablecloth slowly pulled from underneath us until we are in chains or dead?
I tried to stay away from this kind of stuff but it's undeniable that something big will happen within the next few years.

>>133181224
So we got kind of an unexpected reprieve after 2007/2008 when a whole lot of people thought it was HAPPENING. It's been a very good 10 years to get set up to make it through another bad spot or some kind of potential eventual HAPPENING.

Wait for a prepper thread. Otherwise half the answers will be the usual braindead trolling and myopia, and with little over all sense of what might be realistic, and what might be a practical, balanced approach. It's no small subject.

This is probably really retarded but if the FED does try to fuck the economy and the dollar and blame it on trump, can't he go full Andrew Jackson and launch an investigation and auditing of the FED and expose their corruption and incompetence/wrongful deeds?

>>133181224
all you need is a gun with 1 bullet for yourself. trust me, living through it won't be something you want to do. the ones to die first are the lucky ones

>>133181690
Technically under the War Powers Act he could just nationalize it. But that's not likely to be a viable approach because then the World Jewry would just assert more de facto power.

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against massive inflation the only safe bet is to borrow shit tons of money, becuase the money will be worthless.
but its a crazy plan because the fed could keep buying its own debt for another decade.

about the only good thing to do is store dry and can foods. get some water purifiers and store up a couple months of food.

>>133159128
Keep your cash and buy stocks when everyone is panicking about the me of the world

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>>133157169
CRASHING THIS MARKET

Lul at the shmetah larp threads

>>133164501
>Controlled Item
>>133164743

>>133160575
>>133160575
>>>133159715
>What do you think of BTC as a store of value vs dollar?
This is how I will hedge my portfolio. Currently acquiring and will add more as it drops. Should bounce around 1800 at the lowest.

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Three K's a day keeps the niggers away.

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Sieg Heil.s

>>133158427
>TFW you get shown the life of the mind

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this is the gospel truth

why 2008 hurt so much was because everyone was still expecting the acceleration.
if you look around now, you're not really any better off than 10 years ago, despite the US national debt doubling.
the tech industry is going to pop, which will topple the education industry, and the "durable goods" market will slam to a halt, sinking a nail in the auto industry and stalling the housing/construction market for another 25 years.

>>133159715
>Falling for the metal jew

>>133182910
>Controlled Item
What does that mean? You live in a nofunz zone?

Alright so there are plenty of other things to do.

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>>133170366
>Upon death, or near it, I will inject myself with a concoction of LSD, DMT, mushrooms, heroine, and any other drug I can get my hands on.
Please make a list of precise amounts of what you took.
Hopefully, one day we will have enough frontiers like you, and obtain golden formula for BERSERKER mode.
>>133171325
>Maybe I'll actually be able to buy a fucking GPU now.
Heh.
I will be buying in when the prices hard floor.

>>133159128
So I should bet it all and buy a million dollars worth of gold? Not sure that is sound /pol/ advice.

>>133183982
>bet it all
No way

If you have a mil go ahead and dump $10k in with the intent to DCA up to $50k while you learn more about what to do with the rest.

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>>133183982
use the money you have to leverage it against loans, that all of your money minus what you need to pay the loans and living expenses for the next year and spend it on silver and gold.

but its fucking super risky, its like going to africa and fucking a prostitute. chances are your gonna get some fucked up std and a loose vagina

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Do you remember some time ago when President Trump said that the Federal reserve is bancrupt-it is owned by the Khazarian Mafia NWO Globalists as shareholders. They have been operating on fiat-paper-trading amongst all their own banks literally air as it is not backed up by adequate gold reserves. They then lend this air on paper and charge interest. President trump may be palnning to shut them down, sue the shareholders for the outstanding debt, forgive all debts owed to them by everybody and transfer sall banking to the United States treasury backed by the gold standard. You may also know that Trump made his oath of Office based on the 1776 Constitution-not the 1800's one the federal reserve devised to steal wealth from everyone. In essence freeing everyone from being debt slaves to the Federal Reserve and re-establishing the monetary gold standard world wide. Freedom for all EXCEPT the criminal cabal which is trying to take him down.

>>133184385
*than take all of your money minus*

>>133183982
Now, how do you dispose of $10k or so just to get your feet wet? First time around get a "monster box" of silver eagles. Then get a few 1oz gold eagles and put the remainder in to sub-oz gold eagles.

Next time (in a week or two weeks or a month or whatever) put half into some 1/4oz gold eagles and the rest into 90% "junk silver"

The next purchase can diversify or adjust further. You might want to move more toward the small denomination. You might have decided you want to bank on buying in larger increments. You might have decided to get in to some riskier forms or diversifying into other kinds of things.

>>133184273
This is far more reasonable. With a crash coming, I know I will initially lose something, but still having $950k to exploit the huge losses others will have is a far more sound position..

>>133185116
I wouldn't keep $950k in cash or similar if you expect a crash and haven't set yourself up with other more practical investments. But I would take the time to give it some serious though because I don't think it's all going to fall apart tomorrow.

But if you want to jackrabbit some little bits in to some asset classes you've been holding off on, then there's very little risk in doing so.

I also have some commercial land holdings, worth about 800k atm. It's my opinion these are the safest of my holdings. In these times, am I right?

>>133185816
Commercial real estate is generally regarded as a bubble that was supposed to blow in 2007/2008 and is even further upside down now.

If I were you I would seriously consider spending some time researching the general situation and deciding how it might or might not apply to your particular holdings. It might be a good time to shift out of that partially unless you believe that you'll be in good shape if it that market should take a beating, or unless you intend to hold it until some kind of recovery.

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>>133168193
this pasta again

>>133157169
Alright so I am prepareing for the crash and I want to know what I should buy until it blows over, help a confused fag out here

>>133186186
The properties are near center of a small city in a rapidly growing area. I own them outright and there value has barely returned to 2007/2008 levels (property tax assessment). I plan on selling in around 2025 after a massive MAGA has taken hold. So I think I'll be alright with the properties and I'm thinking I'll hold the cash for some deals after the crash. I should be ok.

end the fed

>>133187132
>there
their

rofl test xd

>>133186915
Keep $3k in cash at home for an individual. That's your oh fuck money, but it can also be useful if you accidentally run your card dry or lose your checkbook or whatever.

There's really no reason to keep more than about 3mo living expenses in the bank since you're losing money at these interest rates compared to inflation, assuming you have a suitable income stream and something you could liquidate within a month or so in case you need to.

Keep multiple backup accounts. A second checking account with a little extra in it. Paypal. Amazon. Gift cards. Whatever might be handy to spend if you need to.

Now you can move on to real assets of value that you would want anyway. Is your car broken? Might be a good time to fix it or get a new one. Need dental work? Might as well get that done. Do you even have a first aid kit? A fire extinguisher? Anything you'd need to do work on the side if you lost your job? Skills? Friends? Relocation? Have you bought guns an ammo yet?

Now fix your debt situation. You don't want to be in crushing debt.

Then you can ask about what to do with your surplus wealth.

>>133184441
When did this happen?

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>>133187538
>Now fix your debt situation. You don't want to be in crushing debt

it's ok, I owe it to my(((self)))

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>gold standard removed
>value of money now depends on government arbitration
>value of business and banks depends on how much the federal reserve prints money
>productivity and wages completely detach from each other
Libertarians screamed their warnings, everyone ignored.

>>133186915
There may not be a crash, just inflation. Lots of inflation. Everything turns into a renters economy with privatized roads. Basic needs are taken care of via basic income. Jews have all the data they need from google, facebook, etc to keep the population subdued.

>>133175171
foreign markets not wanting worthless USD anymore

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I think the plan is in place and has been for years to take down the Federal reserve but at the moment the powerful criminal cabal shareholders have a life and death hold via blackmail and threats over the entire system. The Congressman who just retired had the life of his children, wife and/or himself threatened after he proposed the motion to Audit the federal Reserve. he is still terrified, they say, because he has some insights into serious corruption from being on the Investigative Committee. trey Gowdy needs round the clock security. About 70% of elected officials are blackmailed by the cabal for deviance like satanism, child rape, blood human sacrifice and many crimes . Trump's team has to tread very carefully or, in essence, they die. That is what has been controlled America and the world for hundreds of years. Call it what you will -it is Satan.

>>133184441
>it's okay guys Trump's 4D chess will save us.

the second he makes a move on the Fed he'll get JFK Dallas'd

>>133188100
>There may not be a crash, just inflation. Lots of inflation. Everything turns into a renters economy with privatized roads. Basic needs are taken care of via basic income. Jews have all the data they need from google, facebook, etc to keep the population subdued.

this sounds so much worse

>>133187132
As long as cash and commercial real estate aren't your only two asset classes, then that doesn't sound entirely insane.

And I would hope you've already got the cash traveling along in a variety of instruments through a variety of institutions. It should be pretty low risk if you want to play with some of the cash (10%? 25%?) and spread the rest around along a spectrum of risk/liquidity.

We need to all leave Facebook. It is controlled by the Khazarian Zionist cabal. Notice hoe they are stsarting to front Zuck as POTUS. He is related to I think the Rothchilds. All in the family. Google is controlled by the Saudi side of the cabal. Microsoft is the other evil monopoly in place to control us with tech and Bill Gates is part of the mass genocide by pharma team.

>>133167446
>cryptos
If the electric jew shuts down, they won't mean shit

>>133189804
is that why deleting your facebook completely is so hard? you literally have to tell them if you want to delete it, probably get put on a list

>the Rothchilds are investing in crypto currencies...get ready goys.

>>133192835
I actually heard someone call in to old people radio the other night explaining that buttcoin was going to hold its value because it was backed by being able to buy drugs. It was actually a cogent point that elaborated the power of the drug trade.

But I still think it's babby's first lesson in market manipulation, even if it's a really neat idea.

>>133157169
Fake news, the God Emperor would never allow this to happen.

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beans, bullets, water, gold and land. zero debt.

let it begin

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Sieg Heil..,.

nothing will happen you fucking cletus inbreds

HURRR TEH FED
HURRR GOD EMPEROR WILL NEVER LET IT HAPPEN

fucking pathetic

>>133189200
this
This is probably what (((they))) want, their endgame.
A bunch of helpless goyim slaves.
In my mind, it's the only way I see them coming out on top from it.

>>133194616
>ROME'S NOT GONNA COLLAPSE RETARDS
>t. a roman, right before the collapse

>>133159914
you think the rich elite just walk around carrying trunks of USD? get the fuck off this board you retard

>>133168698
Wtf I wanna join antifa and burn american flags now!

What happend to auditing the fed?
Trump said he would, then it got to the house and rowdy growdy and a few others approved of it. Something like that. Did the paperwork suddenly disappear?

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>>133194447
t. FBI or Antifa/Communists

Start calling these honeypot fuckers out, anons.

>>133183044
>>133199543

(((they))) trade pseudo currency (fed notes) for natural reaources. they cause all the crashes so they can buy up what falls through. genius and sickening

>>133161314
I remember seeing this exact fucking post in 2012.

Still waiting for my currency collapse happening though don't fucking bait me again.

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>>133157169
You can see in this picture that the market was ready for a huge correction between 2015-16.
But since Trump won with the promise of tax reform, regulation relief, and Obamacare repeal, the market has been in fantasyland.

>>133170329
>Believing crooked cpi numbers
>(((experts)))

Keep drinking that kool aid anon

>>133157169
all they gotta do is a margin call and its gg

its not brain science

>>133179227
>They have complete centralized control of the monetary system
Not any more they don"t. Its 2017. 1 satanic federal reserve jewcoin is now worth 0.00042000 sats.

>>133158427
I agree, I believe the plan is to crash the dollar...however the dollar is stronger when interest rates are higher. Lower interest rates normally weaken the dollar. If they can destroy the dollar and crash the stockmarket, they will have effectively begun the destruction of the west.

>>133180437
well, jews are a race according to everybody but me i guess. and if thats the case its one more race to shoot at. i pray i have enough ammo.

>>133181224
Get a gun, not just a pistol(great for defense,arguably less so for hunting depending on gun). Get some water stored and a way to purify more. Get food stored(a week at least but really as much as you can afford next to water) learn to hunt, and be sneaky about it. Also find a spot for a stash of a little extra outside of the city if you can. you might end up homeless and you can only carry so much. So also learn to bushcraft/survival

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>>133157210

>>133167973
Yeah how did printing money go for zimbabwe or venezuela?

>checks flag
Economic illiteracy justified

>>133181224
I personally stockpile liquor, bandages, and canned food. I also have a gun, but a civilization collapse won't be an imminent downfall filled with destruction. There will be a period when food and necessities start to run scarce so always have something worth a barter.

>>133202901
Stash some antibiotic cream, toilet paper, and tape. All three have great purposes in their own right, and combined can dress small wounds.

>>133157169
Thats why I'm buying leveraged bear etfs

>>133181690
He'll just get shot in the fucking head. There's no escaping the fed

>>133188585
This. Those fucking Keynesians are keeping us in chains and they will be the end of us. Fucking hell

>>133200733
hey, that's a lot of pump

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The amount of money without print since 2008 is absurd. It should have already caused hyperinflation. Eventually it will cause.

>>133204947
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf8KFdnwBGY

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>>133205204

it will happen on the 8th of august

>>133167437
>Janusz Korwin Mikke
Crazy russian monarchist
>Ron Paul
Pseudo-libertarian conservative
>Christopher Cantwell
Who is it?
>Hans Herman Hoppe
Meme-tier

>>133157169
the same thing was said in 2015 about 2016 you fucking summerfag

>>133157169
Anyone remember the last 23 threads on this? Simply ebin. Totally turned out accurate every time yup definitely.

I wish you faggots didn't hype me up for disappointment every time this happened.

good thing all of my money is in sturdy American-Made Single Family Homes

>>133157169
(((Federal Reserve)))

>>133175413
i was astonished at how good that book was, given prior to reading it i was told it was dogshit boring.

>>133166971
I've seen ZeroHedge mentioned it recently and another an economy journalist a few months ago.
Spooky.

>>133211423
book name?

>>133212401
g0ebbels - the joo

How is a world currency even supposed to work when the relative value for products and work differs so greatly from country to country? Is shit in America going to be hyperinflated like the yen while bangladeshis pay dollar prices?

>>133214880
Leftist honeypot detected or FBI.

>>133159128
Invest in palladium famalam, gold is where all the normies go.

>>133158427
burgerpoors when?

>>133215653
>VAT
at least in yurocunts it's taxed to hell both on purchase and sale

>>133203152
Dont forget to stock up on antibiotics for your fish... good thing they need the same exact ones we need and at our dosages ;)

>>133206880
Screencapped

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>>133159303
Your a big girl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTAU7lLDZYU

>>133161314
>hyperinflation
nope. that would mean wages would also rise exponentially, and that will never happen. the money will continue to stay locked up in banks.

>>133157210
Dude have you considered when looking at that chart the fact that shit like NAFTA and offshoring to places like China. Then we have automation and more gibs as factors as well. I mean I agree with some of what you say but there is more going on than you are alluding to.

>>133157169
theyre planning a market recession to make trump look bad, look at how yellen is raising the rates just conveniently after trump is elected against all advice

>tfw pretty much all of my assets are in shares
Well, goodnight /pol/. It was nice knowing you.
If I starve to death, at least I was warned.

>>133223173
And since the effects of raising rates wont show until close to the end of Trumps term, it'll all be because of his policies! And the good goyim will eat it up.

>>133184441
>1800's one the federal reserve devised to steal wealth from everyone
Are you talking about the one implemented after the civil war?

>>133157169
keep these threads goinf anon. these are the threads worth repeating. good info.

>>133223420
I'm in the same boat currently. Waiting on fucking IRS and an estate settlement.

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>>133168193

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>>133205204

/pol/ has been predicting economic catastrophe forever. Remember the "shemitah?" The sooner you train yourself to differentiate the hysterical paranoiacs crying the same tune over and over and those few individuals who actually post from a perspective of experience and learning the better off you'll be.

>>133225716

And of course once the eventual 30% market correction happens you will get the people in here posting "I TOLD YOU SO!"

>>133157638
Unemployment rising a few points doesn't= less spending though. More employment just equals less government debt (stamps, welfare checks).
So Fed says if we slow down debt they'll spike inflation?

>>133157791
>We're about on time for another recession

it's an 18 year cycle

>>133158427
>$11 for a gallon of gas.

fuck yall I got hemp oil vehicle, the more I smoke the faster my car goes

Just like muh shemitah!

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>>133225716
>>133226312
The shemitah meme was based on nothing. ITT is based on pic related. The question isnt if there will be a big downturn soon. Its if it will be a correction or a crash.

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Crash of 18

NWO/Deep State are really this desperate.

>>133188933
The second he'll be JFK'ed there'll be a civil war.

>>133207925
You've got any arguments to support that you faggot?

>>133229120
Probability of outcome
10% civil war
30% violent civil disobedience in south
50% absolutely nothing, since Trump has been (95%) outed as a Jewish puppet

>>133229647
A lot of people who voted for him see him as the only american patriot in the goverment.
I've heard a lot of people talking about buying shitload of guns and preparing for the worst if Clinton came to power.
I'd give it 30% 30% 30%