New Research Shows Guccifer 2.0 Files Were Copied Locally, Not Hacked

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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/bombshell-new-report-shows-guccifer-2-0-dnc-files-copied-locally-not-hacked/

>>133085720
Interesting. Is the identity of Guccifer 2.0 known? Can someone give a rundown on this guccifer character?

>>133087724

I've heard a lot of mixed shit about 2.0 (including him being a DNC shill), so hard to tell.

>>133087724
>"Guccifer 2.0" is a person or persona stating they were the hacker(s) that hacked into the Democratic National Committee (DNC) computer network and then leaked its documents to the media, the website WikiLeaks, and a conference event. Some of the documents they say they released appear to be forgeries cobbled together from public information and previous hacks, which they then salted with disinformation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guccifer_2.0

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How does this match Seth Rich timeline?

Can we find what seth was doing on the day the files were copied to the usb?

Those damn russian spies.

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>>133085720
>>133088361

>On 7/5/2016 at approximately 6:45 PM Eastern time,

Holy fug, can anyone check seths activity online around that time?

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shut down the CIA if they don't undo the damage they did to the Presidency

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Bump His name was Seth Rich

>>133087724
Read the article. Adam Carter's conclusion is G2 was a HRC supporter who released these edited, inconsequential files in order to facilitate the Russian hacker narrative and discredit any future Wikileaks release.

>>133088361
>>133088676
Guccifer2 is separate from the Seth Rich and Wikileaks connection. G2 never released anything of true importance and is the source of much of the Russian accusations.

>>133089202
here is a wild one maybe Seth was the one who copied those files gave them to G2.0 and was murder as part of damage control

Today's the anniversary of Seth Rich's murder.

BUMP

>>133089339
Did you read my post or the article? The stuff Guccifer2 released was mostly stuff that made leaking look irresponsible with personal information and the like. The DNC e-mails talking about screwing over Sanders and other scandals came from Wikileaks, this presumably being what Seth Rich would have leaked. I repeat: G2 was meant to discredit Seth Rich and Wikileaks, according to Adam Carter's analysis.

>>133089534
alright alright i hear you.

I just went through the findings in the document and got hyped before reading the analysis.

Id still want to see how these events match against Seth Rich timeline

bump for seth

Bumpity bump

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bump with pics people, cmon

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>New meta-analysis has emerged from a document published today by an independent researcher known as The Forensicator
>https://theforensicator.wordpress.com/

seems legit.

>>133090727
sarcasm?

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>>133091052
Yes. Saged.

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>>133091052
No, no my chap. I mean he must be legit, he has a wordpress and reputable sites like disobedientmedia, which have been established as far back as December of 2016, is picking this up. It's quite the something burger. Surely we have solved the seth rich case lads.

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>>133091279
kek

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>>133091279

pump

>>133092073
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>>133092978
do not let the shills slide this brother. fight on. they are in overdrive trying to hide it from us

there already is a thread on this
>>133084421

Bam!!!

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>>133085720
bump for justice.

watch out for shills everybody. they are everywhere tonight.

Big development!!!

>>133094128
fuck yes they are, bump for justice you cunts

>>133085720
What does this mean? Why is it important if it was copied locally and not hacked?

>>133094400
Because if it wasn't hacked, then the Russia hacking the DNC for Trump to mess with the election collapses.

>>133094400
If they weren't hacked then it wasn't Russia
If it was done locally then it had to be someone working for the DNC

Seth Rich worked for the DNC
Seth rich died 5 days after the files were copied
The files were copied 5 hours after Comey said he WOULD NOT charge Hillary

Everything fits.

Ok this is HUGE!!!

what are the possible scenarios? i can think of two probable and one improbable

1. files were copied locally via usb/lan and then transferred wherever
2. vps in the area was used as a buffer (eg https:// hostus.us/openvz-vps.html), these speeds can be achieved with high speed connection on both ends and ftp/rsync or other methods of file transfer
3. hacked directly from romania (unlikely as 23MB/s is not really sustainable over such a distance)

So much here.

>Another goose chase after /pol/'s imaginary martyr.

stop projecting your narratives on a dead faggot

>>133095167
>Malta
Fuck off shill.

Just a thought. Why would shills come to a internet board, that is 99% neonazi or right wing, to try and spread propaganda.

So, by that logic, the people you guys call shills are really just members of /pol/ you don't agree with. At any time, you could be a shill.

>>133094694
It was copied via USB because 23 MB/s is a fingerprint for USB transfer speeds.

>>133095308
shill spotted

>>133095346

youre the shill you fucking retard

>>133095422
>>133095422
Rope is coming soon
You are going to go down.
Your name is on the payrolls
I am informing you with this post that if you continue shilling that you are willingly aiding treasonous factions.
Good luck with your life idiot.

>>133088195
Well, that is definitely a version of a narrative. Really activates my treenut allergies.

>>133095330
no its not, it is similar to usb 2.0 transfer speeds, usb 3.0/3.1 will net faster

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>>133095922
You were saying?

>>133087724
Everything happened in the Eastern Time Zone. So initial hacker/downloader likely in Washington or New York.

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>>133085720
You just know this will be ignored by the MSM and people will be none the wiser.
This will be forgotten -even by /pol/- in a few days and nothing will come of it.
Every. Single. Time.

I want this to end.

>>133094684
Oh shit. FIles Downloaded 5 hours after Comey. That means it's one very pissed off Bernie Bro...

>>133096286
I'm afraid you're right, unfortunately. Fuck this gay earth - we deserve what we get.

>>133096364
Yeah it points right back to Seth since he was all about Bernie Sanders. Comey's decision must have pissed him off.

>>133096286
>>133096411
Soon.

>>133096286
I just want to know what happened. Hey it might just be a Russian agent operating from DNC headquarters in Washington. We just want to know who downloaded the shit. Who killed SEth Rich. RUssia? A disgruntled Democrat?

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>>133096004
its still not a fingerprint for usb file transfer
its on key with the alleged file transfer of the files and supports the claim of local copying
but usb 3.0 is what, almost 10 years old, and 3.1 is 4 now? its strange that the transfer was done over usb 2.0 then, unless of course the computer only had 2.0

>>133085720

Everyone knows that the data came from Seth Rich.

>>133096667
He was using linux not windows
Different transfer speed
I'm pretty sure the linux usb transfer was written by a woman thats why its slow
not joking.

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>>133085720
>someone had to copy the files
Another job created

>>133096667
Many intelligence services and classified IS stuff are still on older versions of Windows etc. Its a lot of paperwork to upgrade. Also allows them to lock it down better

>>133085720

Are we STILL having this discussion?

It was obvious blatant as day that the files were leaked by a pissed off Bernie Bro within the DNC to Assange or Guccifer 2.0

The Chinese and Israelis have FAR more influence and history of interference within Western powers than Russia, yet no one blinks at them.

It's so blatant at this point that it's gone past comical into monotonous.

JUSTICE FOR SETH RICH

JUSTICE FOR DNC ELECTION FRAUD

JUSTICE FOR DEMOCRAT VOTER FRAUD

>>133087724

O.G. Guccifer was Romanian and was intitially tracked by Russia after being spotted snooping around in their business.

>>133097120
Our analytical skills =/= proof.
Besides that, the idea that the files were copied while old to us is new to the mainstream, which hasn't even considered it yet.

>>133094694

NSA can spoof the perception of a local file transer, I'm sure. They can hack certain information off of air gapped machines via microphone.

I'm sure they can spoof a digital trail that would indicate a local, fast file transfer as opposed to a remote transfter. If the NSA can do it, then Russia can since they've compromised the NSA.

>>133097373
shill spotted

Most significant finding: files taken 5 hours after Comey statement on Clinton:
-----whoever downloaded was reacting to Comey's decision

>>133097511
yes

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>tfw UK/Europe/Eastern europe/Africa
all share this same pipeline

>original transfer attempt was 19GiB total

>muh remote h4xx3rz

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>>133097511
Fucking this

Bump for justice

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REMINDER: Guccifer2.0 has no relation to Guccifer the original

This is a fact that the left has been using as disinfo

Reminder: the podesta emails are un-related and is other dis-info

this is a seperate case and all the evidence points to it being a inside job

Reminder: WL and assange both said it was a LEAK and not a HACK

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>>133097841
If it's the Russians and they had access to the DNC computer, why wait for Comey decision on Clinton to access the files...

>>133097434
>>133098068

Not An Argument.

What are the guccifer2.0 files?

>>133098218
I downloaded them some time ago, it's a whole bunch of nothingburgers, just calendar documents, meeting schedules, etc. Waste of time

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>>133097009
>Different transfer speed
are you retarded?

>>133097115
alright, although this wasnt an intelligence service that was "hacked", was it?

>>133097373
for sure

If it's Seth Rich...
1- Pissed off because of Comey decision that just dropped.
2-He had more stuff downloaded that could find its way on the Internet at any moment.

>>133098490
No but I am beginning to think that you are
maybe if I spoke in arabic you would be able to understand me better?

>>133097511
Witnessing bump.

>>133098603
see the attached pic in >>133098490
its the write speed to a samsung usb stick on gnu/linux

>dd if=/dev/sda1 of=tempfile bs=4M count=512 conv=fdatasync,notrunc status=progress

i generally get higher speeds with my linux machine than i do with windows

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you wherent supposed to realise he was a puppet!

>>133098499
this

G2. 0 was deliberately done to cover for Seth.

>>133098799
Since the 23mbps figure is just an estimate, why does it matter if certain manufacturer usb sticks differs in read/write speed?

A lot come into play when copying files over to USB.
That includes how fast the HDD it copied from was.

If we're deducing whether it is possible that a USB is involved, wouldn't the baseline would be 'At least 23mpbs' not strictly 23mbps.

>>133099166
>The DNC was not hacked. I will prove it.

For one thing, we can cross-reference the actual authors from the Wikileaks dump. 1.doc is in the "verified" Wikileaks release as the attachment which can be downloaded from here which has the original author of "Lauren Dillon." So, wait, who is Warren Flood et al? Each of these documents had a creation date of June 15, and were modified by "Фeликc Эдмyндoвич" a few minutes later.


In Office 2007 format specification, there is a certain stylesheet template which dictates overall formatting for the document. In three of the documents by Warren Flood, we find the identical metadata.

{\s108\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\contextualspace \rtlch\fcs1 \af1\afs20\alang1025 \ltrch\fcs0\f1\fs20\lang1049\langfe1049\cgrid\langnp1049\langfenp1049\sbasedon0 \snext108 \slink107 \sqformat \spriority1 \styrsid11758497 No Spacing;}

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>>133099166
this

We arent supposed to have this information.

Things will be set in motion. Time horizon just got shorter.

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>>133099365
Bump
Pasta from last night.

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>>133099252
for sure, but to say that 23MB/s is fingerprint usb speeds is objectively false
its very possible that the files were copied locally either directly from the server or via LAN
but its not the only realistic conclusion
also MB/s isnt the same as mbps, one's a 8 times larger number

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>>133090595
Those fucking idiots.

No wounder shit went south.

>dont open schrodinger's box

We will splinter the DNC and scatter it into the wind

>>133099365
>The above line appears across all three of Warren Flood's documents. styrsid11758497 is an unique identifier that is session-associative. The fact that it does not appear in the other documents indicates it's associated with Warren Flood and not Фeликc Эдмyндoвич.


Why is this important? Well, the \langfe1049 portion is a setting saying that Russian language should be used as the default language for the document.


Had Фeликc Эдмyндoвич been setting the "watermark," it would be the same across all documents. But instead, distinct watermarks were created for each document creator, suggesting inconsistent application or three different creators applying their own watermark.
In other words, document creators set the document properties to use Russian language and created three distinct so-called 'watermarks' in doing so, not 'Фeликc Эдмyндoвич.'


Also, cross-reference to Wikileaks shows that Warren Flood did not author any of the documents. And given that the timestamps are all on June 15th, this is the sequence of events:


A worker using a computer registered to Warren Flood opens a DNC document, copies it, and pastes it as a new document to his computer.
A worker using a computer registered to Warren Flood sets the theme language to Russian in some way (this process is different for all authors).
A worker using a computer registered to Warren Flood modifies the document's author to Фeликc Эдмyндoвич.
The modified document is then uploaded to the Guccifer website and publicly published a short time thereafter.

Impact of Guccifer 2.0 being a DNC creation
The "Russian influenced the US election" campaign all started from the DNC leak.


Allegations of Russian influence was built on a completely fabricated foundation of lies.

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>>133099370
whats gonna happen ?

>>133099598
>that 23MB/s is fingerprint usb speeds is objectively false
Well, since a typical 2.0 USB have a max speed of 30MB/s. It wouldn't be unreasonable to classify stable data transfer speed ranging from 20-30 MB/s as a fingerprint for a typical USB 2.0.

>its very possible that the files were copied locally either directly from the server or via LAN
>but its not the only realistic conclusion
Any other alternatives that would describe the situation then?

>>133099691
>In hindsight, we now know that Obama administration unmasking of US campaign officials on the pretext of "Russian interference" started in June 2016, same date as when Guccifer 2.0 began. The implications that the unmasking all was predicated on a DNC psy-ops is staggering.

Who cares why the DNC did it?
Because it proves that "Russian interference" started as a total DNC fabrication that persists to today. The whole Russian campaign started before Trump made his infamous joke about Russians getting Hillary’s emails.


Illegal unmasking of Trump campaign officials over Russian interference began June 2016. Was this predicated on Russian interference with the DNC hacks? If so, this means that the leaks not only implicate DNC and plague President Trump himself, but also implicates Obama administration officials and all the involved intelligence agencies.


Why did DNC leak their own documents?
It’s right in Guccifer 2.0’s blog. Pertinent quote: "The main part of the papers, thousands of files and mails, I gave to Wikileaks. They will publish them soon." The DNC knew they were having their documents leaked to Wikileaks, and wanted to make sure a Russian hacker took credit for the leaks.


How did the DNC know Wikileaks was going to release the DNC emails?
Great question. It’s hard to imagine them knowing without assistance from intelligence agencies – and indeed unmasking of campaign officials started in June 2016.

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>>133099806
Now we dont know.

>/pol/ might ruin their own ideological creation
>immigration waves was justified by the cruelty to come
>pop controll has been a top priority always.
>the right has always been in controll. Nothing has changed.

TRUMP IS OK WITH THE NARRATIVE, WHY ARENT YOU!

>>133100073
>This is, of course, highly illegal, and would mean that the Russian disinformation campaign wasn’t just a DNC operation, it was also created from collusion with the Obama administration using highly illegal means including violations of the Fourth Amendment.

Sources: Democratic Aide Suspected Of Major Security Breach Under Government Protection In Pakistan


A criminal suspect in an investigation into a major security breach on the House of Representatives computer network has abruptly left the country and gone to Pakistan, where her family has significant assets and VIP-level protection, a relative and others told The Daily Caller News Foundation’s Investigative Group.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/22/sources-democratic-aide-suspected-of-major-security-breach-under-government-protection-in-pakistan/


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-09/comey-bombshell-fbi-directors-leaked-trump-memos-contained-classified-information

>>133100047
>Any other alternatives that would describe the situation then?
ftp/rsync to a machine in dc
$5 a month for a 50GB hdd, unmetered gigabit vps in dc
would effectively be able to produce the exact same results, while supporting the romanian hacker idea since a vps can be used as a buffer of sorts e.g. download to vps and then download from vps

>>133100265
>“So you didn’t consider your memo or your sense of that conversation to be a government document?,” Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) asked Comey on June 8. “You considered it to be, somehow, your own personal document that you could share to the media as you wanted through a friend?”

“Correct,” Comey answered. “I understood this to be my recollection recorded of my conversation with the president. As a private citizen, I thought it important to get it out.”

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793
18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.


https://vault.fbi.gov/miog/manual-of-investigative-operations-and-guidelines-miog-part-02-01-of-06/view

>>133100288
That wouldn't produce stable 23 MB/s speed though.
Also, that would imply the archive being built on the rented server. Which isn't the most logically likely event.

>>133100265
And now more fucking Pakistanis are involved

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>>133100534
>That wouldn't produce stable 23 MB/s speed though.
you could absolutely achieve that with FTP or rsync, even sshfs if you skip compression can achieve it, its less than a fifth of the avaliable 1gbps connection
it depends of course on the connection of the server in question, but i dont think its unrealistic that a file server run by hillary/dnc would have any less than a 200mbps uplink

also, nowhere is it stated that it was stable 23MB/s
the average over the ~14 minutes of file transfer was 23MB/s
a nearby vps is a very good tool in data-theft since it allows for high speed data transfer, which you then can download to your own machine at the speed the links in between permits

>>133100357

I'm kind of confused about Comey here.
Was the memo concocted when he was speaking with the President as FBI Director or fabricated as a recollection of his talks with the President after he was fired?

I thought he was a "diligent note taker" and these "memos" were taken just after his talks while he was still FBI Director.
That would make it plain as day that the memos he wrote while being an agent of the government would be the property of the government, right?

>>133100944
>the average over the ~14 minutes of file transfer was 23MB/s
the mean speed was about 23MB/s, i meant to say

>>133088195
>which they then salted with disinformation
Even if you believe the "DNC didn't do anything" narrative, that's a hilariously biased and unprofessional wording.

You guys are very gullible.

>>133100944
>you could absolutely achieve that with FTP
I can see that if it were transferred directly within the same local network. even If it were transferred to a regionally nearby server, it wouldn't be particularly feasible unless the DNC and the rented server have a direct node that are completely unused by any other entity in that 30 minutes while being in a urban center.
That means, while utilizing FTP is still a possibility, it would also need to be a local transfer as well, which complies to
>very possible that the files were copied locally either directly from the server or via LAN

>nowhere is it stated that it was stable 23MB/s
The files were transferred in batches, and the average transferred rate among those batches is more or less 23MB/s.

>>133085720
Lol. They assume it must be locally copied because 23MB/s is impossible via internet.

>looks at Google fiber jack

>>133102269
>it wouldn't be particularly feasible unless the DNC and the rented server have a direct node that are completely unused by any other entity in that 30 minutes while being in a urban center.
why not?
i get to utilise nearly my full 100mpbs bandwidth with my vps in denmark (which is almost 10 hours drive away) (i keep about 95-98% of my bandwidth)
i recall "the scene" uses fxp and/or (s)ftp to distribute their releases between each other, massive amounts of data sent continuously, millions of releases each year
have you ever used a high speed connection? search for images where people brag about their gigabit connection by showing off 60MB/s or higher download of steam games (although i dont know if its p2p or direct download)
high speed file transfer through the internet is a reality and a viable way to perform data theft

This is important

Bumpty dumpty. Remember shills, you're protecting pedophiles and globalists who want to enslave you.

>>133102253
Not gullible. We want to know more. DO you deny that whoever grabbed the DNC data did so 5 hours after the Comey-Hillary drama?

>>133103075
>why not?
Well being a DNC server, that uplink bandwidth is unlikely to be free of traffic unlike most home steam owners.
The max speed of FTP over 1 gbps uplink is roughly 65MB/s. The traffic over at the DNC servers as well as the rented server would have to be below 50% to achieve that. And that still doesn't account for the data r/w delays on both ends.

And even if the situation was perfect and it just so happen that both the DNC servers and the rented servers are not under load at that time, it still doesn't explain that the archive was build on a EDT timezone unless it was built on the rented server. Which basically kills the
>viable way to perform data theft
for this case.

>>133104649

Not the guy you're talking about but...

Watching this shit play out in real time last year, i thought that gucc2 was a psyop to distract from wikileaks that also just started releasing. On more than one occasion assange has stated he doesnt know anything about gucc2. Or course, this could be a distraction since wikileaks doesn't like giving up sources.

this is being slid hard

Always thought it interesting how hard Guccifer 2.0 tried to imply he was Russian without actually saying it, and how he left easily found breadcrumbs to indicate the same. Makes sense that it's actually a DNC fag roleplaying.

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>>133109319
Yes it is. Bump.

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The board flooding with bullshit shills today (more than normal) is proof enough that this analysis completely BTFO of the russian narrative.

I remember this all being said last year, that G2 was a plant to discredit what Rich already leaked to Assange.

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Not only does this completely destroy G2 as a leak, it dogpiles on top of the already known level of corruption within the DNC (that they would purposely intended to lie to Americans to make them think they were crazy)

Most importantly, it illustrates how incompetent FBI leadership is. Remember, the FBI investigation into this never did any forensics on this, but simply took Crowd Strike's narrative as their "analysis" into.the matter.

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Hard bump

Hilarious that to distract the American public from their corruption to block Bernie, the DNC doubled down with the fake Guccifier narrative

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>>133085720
bamp

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Bump for Seth.

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bump for seth and great justice, also can't believe something this obvious wasn't noticed before.

Bumping bump bump

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You can plainly see the copypasta threads theae shills create on a daily basis to slide discussions

Up you filter game, anon niggers

>>133090027
Ask Assange he started it

>>133116463
how are you able to see this thread if you got proper filter?

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>>133116618
Filter, ya dingus

All the Proof you need: NO Russia Hack, Collusion

>http://original.antiwar.com/craig_murray/2017/07/07/russiagate-stink-without-secret/
http://g-2.space
>http://riggedit.com/?s=Russian+Hacking
http://riggedit.com/?s=Russia+Collusion

The Real Reason?
Http://Riggedit.com/SETH-RICH
DNC insider leaker was made an example of.

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bumperino
>>133116618
you filter the based BTFO /ourgirl/ howcanwhitecompete cancer, silly mountain monkey

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>>133085720
wow it's fucking NOTHING

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>>133116965
Are you the CTR shills in Sri Lanka, Patel?
On day you might make it to the Phillipines. Try learning how to use a toilet, pajeet

What was his name again?

bumping like mad

>>133085720
So this is it then? Putin personally sneaked into the dnc and stole the emails so drumpffhhkdh can win. Cant wait for him to be impeached

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>>133117724
Hacked into DNC's Limewire account

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>>133097511
mfw /pol/ was right about everything the whole time.

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>>133117542
SETH

RICH

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>>133118295
>pol/ was right about everything the whole time.
Whoa, whats this you say?

http://archive.is/JEXOo
(Click it)

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DNC Created RussiaGate Story to Cover-Up Seth's Murder

All the Proof you need: NO Russia Hack, Collusion
>http://riggedit.com/russia-hacking-collusion/

DNC ADDED METADATA TO FRAME THE RUSSIANS
>http://riggedit.com/russia-hacking-collusion/

DNC Killed Seth Rich to Cover-Up Hillary's Crimes
>Http://Riggedit.com/SETH-RICH
Failed to Provide DNC Server to Feds (Obstruction)
>Http://Riggedit.com/SETH-RICH
Created RussiaGate Story to Cover-Up Seth's Murder
>Http://Riggedit.com/SETH-RICH

DNC/MSM/Deepstate willing to get HRC back in power at risk of WWIII
Time For Treason Hearings