Can any nazi here refute this?

Nigger i aint reading all that shit.

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>>133081816
TL;DR
OP is a massive faggot and i did not read his post

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>>133081816
fug off

>>133081816
TL;DR
No one is reading that shit

>>133081816
How can you reasonably expect someone to gather the patience to read something like that? Not to mention while having full conscience that when they finish the thread will have already been locked?

>>133081816
>his first argument is "treaty of versailles wasn't as bad as germans perceived it to be"
that's a stupid argument. it's more reasonable to say that slavery wasn't as bad as africans make it to be, it was the first time those niggers actually slept in a house.

your sad pasta is a failure on inception.

Faggot, you think of any of us are wasting our time reading that drivel? Eat a dick.

>>133081914
>>133081976
>>133082831
>>133083614
>>133083810

I knew stormcucks had a low attention span but I didn't know it was this bad. That whole text took me like 2 minutes to read in its entirety (I timed myself)

>>133083919
>you must have a low attention span if you won't time yourself eating a turd from start to finish

>>133083919
>you must have a low attention span if you wont time tyrone finishing in your wife from start to finish

>>133083919
it takes 5 seconds to shoot yourself in the foot but im still not going to do it. Its not about how long it will take its about what i will get from it.

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>>133081816
TL;DR
>"citation needed" if it goes against the narrative
>doesn't provide citations for own claims

3/10 made my reply so that lurkers don't think "pol BTFO" and others don't have to waste their time reading this drivel

>>133083919
Why the fuck did you time it?

HAHAHAHAHA look at the reactions. When you guys are cornered you always make it absolutely clear you have nothing to say but generic insults

>>133084954
are you fucking retarded? There are sources at the bottom of the picture. Bloody Sunday is common knowledge that can be looked up on wiki

>>133085315
see
>>133083721
I addressed what was wrong with his post and why I wouldn't read further after the first sentence. Next time you write stupid threads you shouldn't start on such a weak foot.

>>133085617
you didn't address anything, you literally just called his argument stupid

...YAWN

>>133086119
nice argument

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>>133081816
That picture is full of inaccuracies. Like for example, the claim that the 16 point peace plan was proposed after the invasion of poland, when it was in fact, proposed beforehand.

It is clear that the cunt who made those posts has no fucking clue what he is talking about in the first place.

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>>133081816
Sure, here you go.

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>>133081816
>>133086440

>>133086461
The additional 5 million non jews that supposedly died in the holocaust was literally a made up number the jews put forth in order to garner more sympathy from the goym.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/remember-the-11-million-why-an-inflated-victims-tally-irks-holocaust-historians/

>>133086414
>he claim that the 16 point peace plan was proposed after the invasion of poland, when it was in fact, proposed beforehand.
good catch! You're right. still, the "deal" (read:extortion) was crap and history has proven that rejecting the deal resulted in gaining territories by Poland as opposed to losing them so saying "no" was a good call nonetheless

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>>133086700
You fuckers got played by the anglos and suffered tremendously under the soviet occupation.
I do think that in the long run, your people would have been spared from much pain, had you sided with Germany against the communists.

Nazis fought for an Europe free of the influence of the global banking cartels.

>>133086440
I don't know if the 6 million figure is an exagerration or not but the customers of civillian crematoria usually prefer that the ashes of their grandmother are not mixed with the ashes of random people so they only burn one body at a time

https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ab4-civilian-ovens-comparison/

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>>133081816
IT WAS REAL IN MY MIND, GOYIM

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>>133086915
multiple bodies wouldn't fit, so that's a lie via your source.

>>133081816
Naziboos are the worst, but that doesn't change the fact that the Nazis were basically right and Fascism is the best.

refute what exactly?

I scanned this and see two opposing points of view, one backed up with some stats.

I can use the fallacy of the stone if you like?
> I refute it thus... (kicks stone away)

>>133086915
>>133087064
Also, I'd like to add that even if they could somehow fit 5 bodies into one oven, the math still wouldn't work out.

>>133087198
the math doesn't factor in the fact they would also burn bodies on pyres Also to me it looks like they could easily fit at least 4 bodies into an individual furnace, especially if we assume the victims were emaciated

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>>133087064

they stacked them fat bottom skinny top. you could fit one fat person and 2 or 3 skinnies.

>>133087733
you could cram at least 4 spooning skeletonmode people in there, just turn them on the side

>>133087733
3 people stacked would require a complete cremation every 90 seconds. Impossible. Even by today's standards, it takes 1-3 hours for a person. As you can see, even if 20 bodies fit in each oven, it would be impossible.

>>133081816
This is bullshit, there's denial of the Danzig Massacre which was the legitimate reason for Hitler to invade Poland to save his people
I REPEAT THE POST IS BULLSHIT!

>>133088107
>I REPEAT THE POST IS BULLSHIT!
this

>>133087932
no they wouldn't. The premise of that retarded copypasta is that every single body was burned in a furnace when in reality heaps of bodies were dumped into pits and set ablaze when all the ovens were being used

>>133088107
Danzig happened AFTER the invasion. Was Hitler a prophet?

>>133088241
Not enough to turn them all into ashes, where's the remains? Oh yeah, there never was any since researches never found any

>>133088321
>Check flag
>Pole


I believe you, he did invade before it happens, genius

>>133081816
>first claim is about the treaty of versailles not being as bad as stormfags or Hitler made it out to be
>uses literally nothing to back that claim
Stopped reading there.

>>133087597
>pyres
Where is the evidence of this?

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>>133088374
Newsflash: bodies decay, especially after being exposed to high temperatures. I'm a medfag and before I passed anatomy I borrowed a skull from my friend. The thing wasn't properly prepared as an anatomical specimen (probably stolen from a grave) and it was CRUMBLING in my hands and it hadn't been even exposed to fire.

>>133088685
Yeah sure buddy...... Where are the proofs?

>>133088241
>heaps of bodies were dumped into pits and set ablaze when all the ovens were being used
proofs?

>>133088737
He's a fucking pole, they are like roaches denying the Armenian Genocide

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>>133081816
oh someone said its not true? damn, I guess I'm btfo after all

>6 and a half hour documentary documenting case after case of jewish tricks
>these same jewish tricks have been well documented in the past and in the present
>b-b-but it only didn't happen in Germany before hitler btfo'd the jews, the jews are innocent!

even if that were true the jews deserve everything coming to them, again, for all the stupid shit they've done to literally everybody ever sinse they existed.

jews were a mistake, but really because they were created by satan to carry out his will on earth

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>>133088916
"Nazis are evil!"

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>>133088964

>>133088428
>I believe you, he did invade before it happens, genius
your arguments are on par with your grammar
>>133088659
Here is the testimony from an SS officer from Belzec

SS-Scharführer Heinrich Gley testified:

Then began the general exhumation and burning of corpses; it may have taken from November 1942 to March 1943. The incinerations went on day and night, without interruption, initially at one, then at two sites. At one of the sites it was possible to incinerate about 2,000 corpses within 24 hours. Approximately four week I after the start of the incineration operation, the second site was set up. Thus, on an average, a total of 300,000 corpses were burnt at one site within about five months, and 240,000 at the second one during ca. 4 months. These are obviously estimates of averages. It would probably be correct to put the sum total at 500,000 corpses...
This incineration of disinterred corpses was such an horrific procedure from the human, aesthetic, and olefactory aspects that it is impossible for people who are now used to living like ordinary citizens to be able to imagine this horror. (See note 6 <Vol. IX, p. 1697>) In Treblinka a start was made in the spring of 1943, on Himmler's personal command after he had visited the camp.

The vacated ditch area was levelled and sown with lupins! SS-Oberscharführer Heinrich Matthes, who was responsible for the extermination sector in Treblinka, testifies:

An SS-Oberscharführer or Hauptsch~rfuflrer Floss arrived at this time, who, so I presume, must previously have been in another camp. He then had the installation built for burning the corpses. The incineration was carried out by placing railroad rails on blocks of concrete. The corpses were then piled up on these rails. Brush wood was placed under the rails. The wood was drenched with gasoline. Not only the newly obtained corpses were burnt in this way, but also those exhumed from the ditches.

But the redcross report does say how many jews died in Auschwitz. The one from 1948 or whatever. I've read about 300 pages before and it goes into some amount of detail on the camps and the state of the jews in general. By the 1970s the holocaust was a huge thing so of course the red cross will come out and say, "of course we don't deny the holocaust, those figures were fake even though it's in our report, please don't take away our funding rabbi."

>It would probably be correct to put the sum total at 500,000 corpses...

You can't burn 2000 corpses in 24 hours, testimony like that are bullshitright at the start and mathematically non-sense

They died of what exaclty? Lice

Would.....

Can't even give precise numbers out of any doubt

>>133081816

>Random pictures, sources don't work, stories made up of random people to fit narrative.

>Sources are said to be of the pictures but nothing actually about OP's revisionist history filled with misinterpretation and strawmen.

Example: "Germany said to have won ww1"

Nobody has ever claimed this. Germany was simply blamed for it. There were no real winners in WW1.

>Some red cross letter as a source

lol ok

>>133089047
Where are all the ashes? Should be literal tons.

>>133088737
see
>>133089047

>>133089564
I did see that. And I'm wondering where the tons of ashes are, and why I should ignore that issue and instead believe it's out of the realm of possibility that nazis were tortured into confessions; as is documented.

>>133089555
nice trips


Within the precincts of the "Extermination Camp" the Committee
found over one thousand three hundred and fifty cubic metres of
compost consisting of dung, the ashes of incinerated corpses and small
human bones.

[...] buried the ashes in pits and
trenches, scattered them over a large part of the camp vegetable
plots, and, mixing the ashes with dung, used them as manure for the
fields.

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/maidanek/ftp.cgi?camps/maidanek//maidanek.04

>>133089768
Yeah, they also put the "gas chamber" right next to the hospital...

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>>133089816
The wooden door one?

>>133089684
I haven't seen your question until after I posted >>133089564

>>133089802
>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/maidanek/ftp.cgi?camps/maidanek//maidanek.04
So you're asking me to believe the same people that built a chimney after the war was over, disconnected from the "gas chamber" but made to look good for tourists?>>133089768

i have never seen a holocaust tattoo numbered past 200,000

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>>133089949
There is a perfectly good explanation for this my goy.

>>133081816
I'm not a Nazi, I just don't conform to your historical norms.

>>133090067
The post WW2 books written by the wartime leaders Churchill, Eisenhower, and DeGaule never mentioned any gas being used or any planned, systematic extermination of anyone.

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>>133089944
Soviets had to cover their crimes by making the Germans look worst than what they actually did

>>133081816
Ultimate redpill is that Holocaust did happened and it was a good thing (although number of victims is probably exaggerated)

>>133089944
fair point, This website features photographs as well as studies unpozzed by the Soviets

http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2011/12/belzec-sobibor-treblinka-holocaust_5940.html

>>133090204
>Soviets had to cover their crimes by making the Germans look worst than what they actually did
Very plausible. Wouldn't surprise me it all. Still, none of the arguments presented by stormcucks actually disprove the Holocaust. it did happen

>>133090067
Damn, and Buchenwald was one of the worst ones in the holohoax mythos too.

>>133084965

autism is prevalent here

>>133090245
Interesting link. I'll dig into it. No pun intended.

>>133090319
Holocaust=/= "6 million"

>>133089802
Why would they use the ash as fertilizer instead of burrying it? Thats disrespectfull as fuck
Also no photos of mountains of ash

>>133090319
>disprove the Holocaust
The burden to prove is on you. But I see the census numbers being consistent for before and after the war re: jews in europe. Prove how that's possible without resorting to saying they all had 13 kids during the war.

>>133090018
Maybe each camp had their own numbers? But how many death camps do they say there were now again?

One thing that's bothered me about this whole thing is: why didn't they just not give them food and water?
No water alone kills fairly quick. Why waste all this time with gas chambers and ovens when just stop feeding/watering them would've taken them all within a short time?

Topsoil at Treblinka was not disturbed in any extent commensurate with 870,000 corpses buried and exhumed.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140220005726/http://barnesreview.org/wp/archives/280

Arnulf Neumaier has calculated the technical characteristics of such a hypothetical cremation operation:

Total surface area of the “grills”: 10,800 m2, operated by 6,000 workers at the “grills”, at grinding bones, organization, administration etc., fueled by 50 million liters of gasoline (a train 15 km/10 miles long), or alternatively
195,000,000 kg air-dried wood in 185 freight trains with 55 cars @ 30,000 kg wood each, or alternatively 351,000,000 kg fresh wood (515,000 trees, 6.4 km2 forest), felled, debranched and cut up by 3,450 lumberjacks, transported with a motor pool of 42 15-t-trucks, resulting in 4,000,000 kg ashes (wood and human ashes)

>>133081816
Average kike lies mixed with a little truth to make people question themselves.

>Treaty of Versailles
Who says Germany won the war? The Kaiser requested an armastice in a long and bloody war... And didn't think they were surrendering. Many Germans were willing to keep fighting, which is why they hated the treaty. Also the "stab in the back" refers to strikers (arranged by marxist trade unions) and defeatism (media) during the war. Which brings us to jewish communist revolutionaries who fed on unrest and discontent - Yes, more moderate leftists ended up in control. However the actual communists did want to do to Germany what they did to Russia, implement communism and massacre everyone who wasn't an obedient atheist communist.

>jews controlled banks, media, government
They did and do today. Huge anti-war pressure (strikes and defeatism) began after the balfour declaration.

>Haavara
He gave them a chance to leave freely with all their assests long before putting any in camps. Unfair?
>implying the holocaust happened

>Finland
Churchill wanted to send troops to "aid" Finland to get a foothold in Norway, where an invasion of Sweden to take control of their iron mines could be lauched

>muh sixx trillion
I'm done wasting time

they're trying to slide this thread here
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>>133090319

No graves were dug up. Another holocaust lie disproven by science. Where do the lies end?

As much as I hate you Stormcucks, your incessant shitposting, dumb questioning of and outright lies about the Holocaust has made it so in 50 years time nobody will know what the fuck even happened and we can finally cleanse the world of the source of degeneracy.

>>133091690
I only want a debate of the facts. I don't see what's wrong with that. If I pull out something that's a lie, I fully expect to be called out on it with evidence. That's how debate works.

If one is unwilling to debate, and instead opts for simple ad hom (ehem), then it's evidence your position is weak.

>Assuming claim is no Jews joined Germanys side in the war
>Assuming you can't lie in a letter

>>133087597
If you put more mass into it, it takes even more time to burn.

>>133088685
You took a already decaying skull, and found that it crumbled. What a surprise. Against a new and shiny jewish skull that is fresh from the corps. Come on man, think it through.

>>133091359
they could of been buried somewhere else, duh!

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>>133081816

You first.

>>133084431
>>133084431
And what would you get if you shoot your foot ? Pain, if you answer to his post with arguments and pertinence, maybe the first constructive debate on /pol with 2 different sides confronted and compared.

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Holocaustum is Latin for sacrifice.
We have a documented Jewish WW2 death toll of over 127k. Rabbi were keen to track the diaspora and report numbers to the World Almanac when other populations were only given estimates.