When are we going to start seeing Non-jewed WW2 documentary's

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>>132958660

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>>132958660
For you since you say you "like history." Enjoy.

https://siraaronrichards.imgur.com/

>>132959392
>Nazis march in
>Fighting Communists, all is well
>Suddenly, food shortages
>chimpout.jpg
>Nazis crush partisans

This happened a lot.

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>>132959392
>>132959602
It was the Nazis fault we invaded them and started WW2

They shouldn't have liberated their people from Poland.

>>132958660
watch the greatest story never told, it has some faults but it isn't any more biased than the drivel you get from mainstream documentaries. Also highly rated in imdb.

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>>132959602
You've got the wrong person if your intention is to educate me about your version of ww2 history on the eastern front. Also the guy mostly does holocaust denialism debunking. But anyways do your fear of Slavs being knowledgeable about what happened sorta make you afraid if you perceive them as second class human beings? But alas, it's common knowledge in eastern europe about how nazis behaved. There's thousands and thousands of stories from people who survived the war, their accounts will probably not reach the internet for mass viewing though. So yeah. In Russia little kids read aloud this one poem which will trigger some of """pol""" probably really hard if they knew the words of the poem. So in conclusion you're not scared of Slavs are you? If you don't condone their genocide you have no need to have a false subconscious superiority complex which was a result of inferiority issues. Cheers.


Also tisk tisk the name of the poem is "Kill him" and don't worry Slavs aren't going to lynch you for being an alt righter memer unless you know, you rape their kids/wives, etc. But you aren't a neo nazi are you? So if not then you have nothing to fear really.

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>>132960376
Soviet communists were so shit that they starved their own people to the point where they had to eat their own kids.

The Soviets were raping women because they are subhuman commie zombie cannon fodder.

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>>132960376
>The Soviets were the good guys

t. American retard who got an A in Mr. Noseberg's history class.

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>>132960376
You should have upped the ante in the post just a little more.
We might have gotten a pasta if you had.

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>>132960664
It's nice (not really lol) to see that you're posting meme pictures to try and comfort yourself because I know we all know that your feelings were scarred by what you just read. Also retardo germans raped women, killed elderly villagers in some places because they didn't want to take care of them and or have them have some food for themselves. I could go on actually bringing up many examples of nazi atrocities which were done by none Slavs of Germanic/Celtic origin. But for some reasons it scares you, doesn't it? So why be fearful of the truth? Why be an insecure and autistic little baby? Scared of the real world? Keep posting meme images since by doing so you are desperately trying to reassure yourself that you're correct, or at least it seems like you are.


>>132960816
You don't know what's going on? Do you know what went on in your head when you posted that random shitty reply about how supposedly civilians chimped out and became partisans due to food shortages? If you actually talked to people who survived the war in places such as Belarus which is a very good example you'd know not all civilians were part of the partisans. Some even hid their food because partisans at times could be just armed bandits. And don't you think it was the Germans who chimped out for executing 50 civilians for 1 German dead? Do you know it was a war of annihilation in the eastern front?

>>132958660
I have seen a lot of ww2 German footage

>>132961305
>everyone malnourished
>killing a few to sufficiently feed the rest
You may only pick one.

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>>132961305

Don't forget that allied bombing loved to burn women and children alive. Attempting to make the moral high ground when talking about WW2 shows that a person only understands the base propaganda memes.

>>132958660
there are a bunch of finnish ones
any mention of the axis forces can be simplified to "this man is your friend - he fights for freedom" and juden are never mentioned as they are irrelevant to us as a frequently genocided ethnicity

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>>132959392
>>132960376
>>132961305
>Aaron
Nice conspiracy blog faggot
I thought you quit your job but I guess not.
Surprised you're not playing dolls with your VPN like usual.


Also to any anons stumbling across this dude he's an old tripfag (National View and Nathan Bedford Forrest) and his blog is basically nothing but soap and lampshades corpse factory tier "anti-nazi truthing" tinfoil shit.
From my extended history of encounters with this dude in his really active period I've determined he either gets paid or he's schizophrenic.

>>132961748

So while we've debunked that there's something that has really bugged me. Why don't any history documentaries actually show why Hitler hated the Jews? Germans in that time were facing down genocidal Bolshevik Jews, they were choked to death by Jewish banksters, and they had literal communist Jew uprisings.

None of these EVER get shown. Hitler was absolutely justified in hating Jews.

>>132962072

History is written by the victor.

>>132958660
This shit

This shit is why Trump is president, a bunch of kids were raised on shit cable television instead of reading books and going outside.

There's more to history than WWII and despite what the history channel tells you, fascism isn't even the most important aspect or consiquence of WWII, the most important thing that ever happened was the development of the atomic bomb.
There is no true top dog anymore, nuclear weapons are the second amendment of nations.

Fuck Hitler, all he did was kill a bunch of people, didn't actually change the world, just wasted everyone's time and energy being crazy

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>>132961456
You understand right? You also probably understand why some soviets raped and killed German civilians without mercy in the "father land" in 1944/45. It was a war of annihilation too, but not as complete and of such a great magnitude as it was in the east. It honestly was a shit war which hitler brought upon Europe. This is why we can't let stormtards get any sort of political power and brainwash any nation to unjustly invade another and start ethnic cleansing.

We must not let nordists/self proclaimed natsocs to ruin Europe.

>>132961579
I'm not really taking a moral high ground. I just want neo nazi cowards who are too afraid to study the opposite side of history because it might cause them to have conflicting viewpoints which they'll clearly be aware to stop and rethink their actions. Because well quite a few say they're some sort of patriots of Europe yet unknowingly seem to condone the ethnic cleansing of Slavic peoples. This type of behavior is destructive not only for people around them but it's hurting the autistic anti Slavic buffoons as well. If self proclaimed, "good," "cultured" natsocs really want to genocide Slavs then they should just admit it and count the cost of fighting and belittling Slavs like the nazis did in ww2. Hitler's regime wasn't pro European. It was pro Germanic.

>>132962072
Read Mein Kampf. He explains it in the 3rd chapter.
Their behavior, which they still act the same today and in a wider range of nations, led to a strong resentment from a large number of people at the time to the point where the NSDAP was willing to work with Zionist rabbis to coerce the worst rabble rousers to go act like visiting barbarians in their own land.

PDF --> http://www.nationalists.org/pdf/hitler/mein-kampf-stalag.pdf


>>132962202
Faggot

>>132959757
>Honoring a defense agreement is invasion
>Implying that territory wasn't poland before the prussians.

>>132958660
slightly off topic, but where can I go to gain a large knowledge of history? I already am a fan of history but I want to impress girls with my skills.

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>>132962291
natsocs ruin Europe.*

There. Anyways question for the anti Slavic and anti European hitler apologists, do you also deny that the natsees kidnapped Polish children and wanted to integrate them into German families against their will?

>>132962303
Fuck you traitor, I have nazi killers in my blood

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>>132962291
Nat I always wanted to ask you but are you also the guy who played Art Admirer years ago?
It fits the bill.

Also
>same old MUH STORMWEENIES MUH HOLOCAUST MUH HUWHITE RAYCE
and the old
>HITLER WANTED TO WIPE OUT ANYONE WITHOUT BLONDE HAIR AND BLUE EYES

>>132958660
listen to dan carlins ghosts of the ostfront. completely jewles

>>132962509
I do too faggot, my family sacrificed brave men for a war that didn't need to happen.
The German Socialists aren't our enemy anymore. The treaty was signed in '45 so give it a fucking rest.

>>132962480
>do you also deny that the natsees kidnapped Polish children and wanted to integrate them into German families against their will?

It's like you purposefully throw shit like this in your walls of text (such as your blog) to make it seem like you're secretly a troll.
I mean it's plausible but why did you go through all this autism?

>>132958660
>Be adult
>Consider self history geek
>Unironically watch American history documentaries
American documentaries are universally garbage.

>>132959757
>Hey can we have Austria
>Sure
>Can we have the Sudetenland this is our last request
>I guess
>Okay we just went ahead and annex the rest of Czechoslovakia anyway
>Also we forced Lithuania to hand over Memel
>Hey can we have the Danzig corridor this is our last demand for real and the Poles are totally killing innocent Germans?

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>>132962657
Fyi it's not my blog. I just like it, I like it a lot actually. Because it's a very good blog. I might have to download every webpage about ww2 history of that imgur account if hitler apologists will hack the account. Just in case.

>>132962657
Lololollol you are such a faggot.

>One testicle
>Addicted to meth
>commits suicide in a bunker

WE SIGNED A TREATY, WE ARE NOW EQUAL BROTHER

HAHAHAHA I bet you have a Richard Spencer fan boy hair cut too like Trumps bitch face son

>>132962421
pls someone

>>132958660
>hurr is 12 hours long

Watch 2 hours every day and you'll spend only a week.
Jesus even normiefags can sit and binge-watch kike shows a season or 2 per sitting, why you so incapable?

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>>132962884
Stop lying Aaron you post it every fucking time. And your old fashioned IAMSILLY shit from your first three posts confirmed it anyway.

You shill yourself every time you do this. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if you're OP.

Also you're still a lazy South African piece of shit who doesn't know how to copy and paste excerpts in an argument. Blew you out of the water like 50 times because you refused and kept linking your blog like it isn't an awful source.

There are some good older history channel ones that usually focus on battles with veteran interviews instead of morality

>>132962975
Alright I loled.

>>132962657
Also I thought Hitler's schtick was not paying reparations for WWI.
How did that go for him?

How did his great military prowess work out when he lost the exact same way napoleon did?

Hitler was a fucking idiot

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>>132962975
Wait a second is this the 'le epic raid' /inta/ was talking about the other day?
Was Aaron just a troll larping as a holocaust truther from /intl/ this whole time?

I mean I guess it makes sense considering the timeframe in which he and his other proxy personas showed up.
Still. That's a lot of autism. We could have been on Mars by now if you spent your time learning how to into space instead of shitposting with an attention span/drive like that.

>>132963191
You already broke character faggot. For the viewers however I will answer the Treaty of Versailles was bullshit no matter who you are and who you support. Thar be no reason to fuck over a country like that especially considering not an inch of their own land was taken from them during the conflict.

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>>132963034
>Blew you out of the water like 50 times because you refused and kept linking your blog like it isn't an awful source.

I'm not Aaron. I like Aaron though. He seems like a cool guy. If anything he's probably right though in arguments about the holocaust. And me? I'm just a person who says the truth that Hitler basically wanted to turn eastern europe into lebensraum for Germans. The nazis had 7 million slaves from all over Europe working for them. Some in factories, some would work till death from exhaustion in factories in the late months, some worked as house maids. You get the point right? Eastern europeans were to be mostly slaves after the ones that fought were to be exterminated.

Yet why do hitler apologists deny this? Why are they scared of us?

>>132962314
yes it is

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>>132963512
Bob Dole is a cool guy I like him

>he's probably right
>probably
Oy vey look at that self doubt

>the nazis had 7 million slaves from all over Europe working for them
Yes did you find that stat on a napkin while dining at McDonalds the other day?

>factories
A little sliver of truth in the muck of lies that are the holocaust and otherwise conspiracy allegations.
So riddle me this, how many people lived in the industrial communities near the camps during that time? Make some gears start to move in your head.

>le extermination meme
Give me 'no documented orders from the higher ups' for 6,000,000 Alex.

>H-H-Hitler apologists are scared of us
I thought it was
>stormcucks
or
>neonahzeees!!

>>132963834
Wowowow I fucked up my epic Bob Dole joke
God damn it
Ignore it ignore it

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>>132963834
>Oy vey look at that self doubt

Didn't really see a lot of his arguments (except in two threads, I guess you can say that actually is a decent amount though). Though he seemed pretty well spot on. He totally annihilated holocaust deniers in these two threads.

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/127813600
ID:aFsC1zDl

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/127828790
ID:Abwe1o4V

>Yes did you find that stat on a napkin while dining at McDonalds the other day?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostarbeiter

Belarus receives reparations from nazis when?

>So riddle me this, how many people lived in the industrial communities near the camps during that time? Make some gears start to move in your head.

Surely some gears will move in your head if you start researching this topic. Now I don't know the exact numbers. Could do some searching on English and non english websites and give you a number. Oh and like I said Belarus receives reparations from nazis when? I know and talked with somebody whose relatives who were young adults were shipped off to the """father land."""

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http://www.infoukes.com/history/ostarbeiter/

During the German occupation of Ukraine in World War II (1941-44) about 2.3 million Ukrainians were taken to Germany to work as slave laborers. These people were called Ostarbeiter, which is German for "East Workers", and many of them perished in Germany because the German authorities ordered that "they should be worked to death". Others who were working in German factories were killed in Allied bombing raids.

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>>132964345
You've never eliminated anybody in any threads. I've seen the extent of your debate skills. Literally just insults and refusals to clarify.

>posts the archives of his own threads
Yep that double confirms it's you. Also TRIPLE confirms to me personally you're Nat View

>le epic wikipedia source without giving a synopsis of what it details pertaining to the claim
I refute thee, fallacious one!

>no u
It's one thing to copy and paste shit and skim articles and books but it's another thing to process things. If you're not just a long time troll or call center wage slave you've so far lacked the ability to actually discern and think about the things you've read which is a worrying quality indeed.
You've also in that event lacked the address to any of the true hard-pressing questions and refutations that someone trying to prove the holocaust in earnest would need to address such as the physics behind the body burnings and the photos you use sources.

Also that anecdote tacked on at the end means nothing.

I met an 80 y/o Jew who said the holocaust didn't happened and he escaped from Auschwitz.

See?
Worthless.

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>>132964595

Awesome. Now tell me how many died in Holodomor and tell me how many died in the gulags.

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>>132964761
Listen pindos go to https://archive.4plebs.org/pol and type in a segment of something such as this into the search bar faggot. I've been talking since around March and even earlier. Nothing which I have said has been disproved by anti Slavic foreigners. And remember a future for Slavic children will be secured. Just saying in advance. Like it always was.

Speech of the Reichsführer-SS at the SS Group Leader Meeting in Posen (Poznan) 4- October-1943
Brig. Fegelein and the Russian general

Heart in the wrong place…..
For the SS Man, one principle must apply absolutely: we must be honest, decent, loyal, and comradely to members of our own blood, and to no one else. What happens to the Russians, the Czechs, is totally indifferent to me. Whatever is available to us in good blood of our type, we will take for ourselves, that is, we will steal their children and bring them up with us, if necessary. Whether other races live well or die of hunger is only of interest to me insofar as we need them as slaves for our culture; otherwise that doesn't interest me. Whether 10,000 Russian women fall down from exhaustion in building a tank ditch is of interest to me only insofar as the tank ditches are finished for Germany.


Also say whatever you want about "meeting people" who "debunk" the holocaust with one sentence. I personally on the other hand have spoken to a woman who lived in what is now present day Belarus and she witnessed how the nazis massacres the Jews. I don't need anyone to believe or disbelieve that. Truth isn't dependent on the personal opinions of people.

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>>132964595
>Ukraine site claims the Ukrainians got persecuted

Let's look at this rationally for once Aaron

>about 2.3 million Ukrainians were taken to Germany to work as slave laborers.
No immediate source. What a great start.

>German authorities ordered that "they should be worked to death"
Looking around the site I don't see any actual sources. I can guarantee you this document doesn't exist.

>Information about these people, how they were chosen, how they lived and worked and how they perished or survived is largely unknown
Yes believe my sob story, I'm getting reparations for it so it must be true.

>Eyewitness accounts of the Ukrainian Ostarbeiter experience are virtually non-existent although there were 2,244,000 of them from Ukraine according to historian Yuri Kondufor.
I'm going to have to look into Yuri Kondufor but this is just the above X2

>Only two Ostarbeiters have so far been located and interviewed for the audio and video archives of the Ukrainian Canadian Research & Documentation Center in Toronto.
Wow only two witness testimonies recorded. Beautiful.

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>>132965225
You've been around for at least 5 years. I remember seeing your shitty bait that long ago under the trips Nat View and Nathan Bedford Forrest.

>Nothing which I have said has been disproved by anti Slavic foreigners. And remember a future for Slavic children will be secured. Just saying in advance. Like it always was.

I want Slavs to thrive as well. Small world. Difference is I'm not out to desperately destroy National Socialism with an old conspiracy theory. Are you a tanky or something?

>The Poznan Speech
There's no evidence that recording was even of Himmler's voice let alone that the speech occurred. It's horrible evidence. Stop destroying your own damn arguments.

>I've spoken to 6,000,000 survivors
The few actual survivors of the labor camps either didn't directly witness the atrocities claimed or were away from them when they supposedly occurred. Spielberg found one such survivor. Some old lady who said she was scared to death of the showers but never witnessed any killings (though obviously she heard and believed the rumors). I don't know why I believe her story but it seems that's common so on the off chance the people you say you talked to are legit they probably didn't get to see the locations of the alleged killings.

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>>132964903
Why are you bringing that in all of a sudden? You like the other hitler apologists are in fact clueless what I have to say about the gulags and holodomor. I also probably know more about the holodmor that the high majority of pol. Yet you bringing the holodomor and gulag system up shows you're becoming desperate. But I don't care. At the end of the day you're a weak coward. With complexities against Jews and Slavs.

>>132965352
According to your way of talking/logic the rape of Berlin never happened. And keep posting memes/gifs showing you're subconsciously insecure.

>>132965352
Give me a valid source then tard for the bullshit claim that 2 gorrilion "pure" and "innocent" germans perished in pow camps after the war. Protip: you can't.

>I can guarantee you this document doesn't exist.

You base your assumptions on blind emotions. You've never spoken to anyone from eastern europe who lived through the war you dirty pindos. Had you known people of all ages where mercilessly massacred the topic of ostarbeiters wouldn't even sound that surprising. Also in the past weeks I thought of translating videos of witness accounts. What if I do it? Tears will flow in a river.

;)

>Wow only two witness testimonies recorded. Beautiful.

You say that as if there's only two witnesses in the whole world. You really desperate at trying to debunk real history because uncle adolf was a pure and noble aryan leader in your opinion, hence he dindu nuffin.

>>132958953
> no one appreciates the rare flag
wow reddit

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>>132965844
>Y-y-y-y-your insecure
Anyway yes if one can't provide any solid evidence that such an atrocity occurred then it's completely reasonable to disregard the event until such evidence arises.

>Give me a valid source then tard for the bullshit claim that 2 gorrilion "pure" and "innocent" germans perished in pow camps after the war. Protip: you can't.
We're talking about the holocaust.

>Emotional argument and dodges the lack of evidence point
;^)

>Two recordings in the whole world
No but the article you used as a source only pointed out two directly.

>You think these things about Hitler
Yes surely.

Let's see if I can roll a get

>>132966116
WOAH
Cool palindrome

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>>132965795
>under the trips Nat View and Nathan Bedford Forrest.
>pindosnazi delusions

>There's no evidence that recording was even of Himmler's voice let alone that the speech occurred. It's horrible evidence. Stop destroying your own damn arguments.

Even if they were fake which they're not because the behavior of many wehrmacht/ss soldiers confirm the harsh words of the nazi party then it wouldn't change what actually happened. Also heard of the book A Stranger to Myself: The Inhumanity of War: Russia, 1941-1944 by Willy Peter Reese? You should read it if you're doubting the fact the germans and nazi germans:

>murdered the jews
>Strangled the women
>Killed the children
>Everyone knows what we bring
Stay made пиндoc пидop. And it must suck considering how I'm not of western/northern euro heritage but am a much bigger patriot of the US than many (((alt righters))) are who like Murdoch Murdoch on youtube insulting US vets.

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>>132966116
The burden of evidence is not on me. You're delusional hence you're predisposed to act irrationally because you like many liberals and leftists are a mental prostitute. Enjoy your cognitive dissonance if you think Slavs weren't a target for extermination.

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>>132966337
Not even sure wtf a Pindo is Aaron my boy.
Also yes you never had subtlety. Some Australian pointed out how much you and your buddies would sound alike in the coop threads and I realized you were just one person on a proxy the entire time.
You type the same no matter what character you play mostly because you're a dumbass not that you're doing it now.

>A Stranger to Myself: The Inhumanity of War: Russia, 1941-1944 by Willy Peter Reese
Will read. Hopefully I can get back to you with mark-ups/notes on it. I somehow suspect it'll end me up having to research like 50 different memoirs Reese cited.

>u mad
>i am russian and much bigger patriot than you!
Lol!

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>>132966634
>Lol!

Yes, it's true. Sweet dreams lmao.

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>>132966583
It's been said a million times by a million people from your mother to myself:
If you want to prove something, prove it. Don't ask the skeptic for evidence to the contrary because there's no such thing. There is only evidence FOR something, and then that evidence may be refuted.

And no, they weren't Aaron. Many brave Slavs fought for Germany, the NSDAP, and Hitler.
Pic related

>>132958660
>massive history geek
>used to always love watching all the History channel docos about Hitler and the war and Nazis as a kid
>become huge Nazi
>Realize my childhood hobby is just jewish propaganda

shieeeeeeeeet I thought its only me
I cant watch anything on HIstory or Discovery anymore. I enjoyed it but now, I just....cant anymore

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>>132959392
>white nationalism
>Slavs are white
>hahahah
>all whites are the same
>mixing with dirty Slavs and Anglos
Fucking Germanic master race

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>>132966811
No where near as many as the ones who fought against Hitler. And I already posted a lot of proof already. Like I said Billy search the archives for something such as "For the SS Man, one principle must apply absolutely." I posted a lot of quotes multiple times. I can also post photographic evidence of nazi war crimes, can post vids too! In fact just give me a little time.

Also war of the century and mein kreig has evidence of vets admitting to giving starving ukrainian kids in Хapкiв bags of shit and in the other one a vet admits to chimping out and massacring civilians who were hiding.

;^)

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>>132967181
пиндюхa хoчeт пoлyчить aaaa!

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>>132967011
>>132967181

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>>132967011
>>132967181

:^)

>>132967190
>nowhere near as many that fought Germany
Wow no shit

>quotes
Every single time you post "quotes" they get demolished because they're never based on anything. Nor do you ever provide legitimate documents.

>these two books have veterans admitting to fucked up shit
Totally can't be illegitimate in any way man


Take your conspiracy garbage and git

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>>132967011
>>132967181
No tears only dreams now hitler loving shitite.

>>132967271
>>132967294
>>132967342
>>132967383
Now that's some serious butthurt

>>132964595
wtf I hate Germany now

>>132958660
Well, you aren't really going to get any authentic information in regards to WW2. Wartime propaganda works both ways. The Reich thought they were fighting the good fight, but the Allies thought the same about themselves. Turns out, letting the Soviets do whatever they wanted was a bad idea. Both powers were upset after the treaties and wanted land that had been taken from them. Then when war broke out, all hell broke lose.
To act as if there is no political motivation behind any of the conclusions is to be ignorant of bias when it benefits your worldview.

>>132962291

>I'm not really taking a moral high ground. I just want neo nazi cowards who are too afraid to study the opposite side of history because it might cause them to have conflicting viewpoints which they'll clearly be aware to stop and rethink their actions.

But you're wrong. They've realized they've been told a false propagandized version of history and you're trying to feed them more blue pills. Hitler wasn't a magic man that hated Jews out of nowhere.

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>>132967368
>Every single time you post "quotes" they get demolished because they're never based on anything. Nor do you ever provide legitimate documents.

Never go full retard.

>Take your conspiracy garbage and git

Stop being a retard. At the end of the day I'd kill you like your "angelic" and "heroic" (((saviors))) of europe were killed. Quite frankly I don't give too much of a shit about you. You've been warned enough. You've been given enough evidence. I haven't even posted youtube vids of elderly people discussing german barbarities. There comes and surely might come a time when you'll find yourself in deep shit because due to your mental prostitution, you didn't do honest research and later might proceed to chimp out against Slavs or Jews only to find yourself like I said in deep, deep shit.

>>132967517
You've been clearly showing you're assblasted because reality doesn't confirm with your shitty xD ayy lmao I luv hitler views. You literally posted retarded arguments, lmao your replies aren't even valid arguments just nonsensical retarded emotion fueled jargon.

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>>132965844

You tried to bring up body count. You trying to dodge the point you were trying to bring up shows that you are out of your league.

So so far.

1. You don't have the moral high ground
2. Your body count argument is btfo

I've concluded that you're a shill.

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>>132967933
>I AM SILLY

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>>132967852
So the ethnic cleansing of Slavs is a lie? Tell that to all the Europeans who aren't even Jewish who have grandpas and grandmas who witnessed German (((liberation))). And dear pindos I posted quite a lot of evidence. I didn't even post video evidence which confirms german brute brutality from the viewpoint of people who lived through the war on the "evil side" as you charlatans probably view it as.

>>132967948
>posts straw man
>thinks he's smart


Thread's done. Like in the dozens of other threads nothing which I said what disproved. Just emotion fueled shit throwing tantrums from cuck hitler lovers.

>>132968396
You don't even know what a strawman is...
SAD

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>>132958660

>>132958660
>also the greatest story never told is like 12 fuckin hours long

>history geek
>unironically refers to "muh greatest lie never told" as NOT propaganda

You never were an actual history geek. Go to /his and try to start a thread about that shiity yt """""""""""""documentary""""""""""""" and look what happens when it gets annihilated by people who aren't brainwashed naziboos.

>>132968396
Lol of course. You're talking to a bunch of porn addicted teenagers on 4chan who watched The Greatest Story Never Told and became Nazis after they decided feminists were the worst cuz Gamergate. They have nothing but hormone-fueled rage.

>>132968500
>>132968547
>>132968647
The dude with the blue ID is not your friend.

>gaymurgate
Lol fuck off

>>132958660
>Be Hitler
>German supremacist
>Invade a staunchly anti communist white nation that defended Europe from Bolshevik hordes in the 20s
>Almost one century later some LARPers who admire you for some retarded reason claim you were merely "pro-white" and not a German supremacist.

Honestly, fuck Germany. They have done more damage to the white race than any other group in history.

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>>132967948
>RJ Rummel

lel

>Ignoring other big wars due to capitalism and only focusing on US action and only including one year for things that are systemic (ie. poverty), which is being really damn conservative because Japan engaged in brutal imperialism, we get a total of 205,000,000 killed directly or indirectly because of capitalism.

http://guerrillaontologies.com/2014/05/attempting-the-impossible-calculating-capitalisms-death-toll/

>>132968479
>natsee assumes I'm a communist
>proceeds to state I don't know what a straw man is implying that his straw man argument isn't a straw man in >>132967948

>>132968647
Yeah in the pol discord I wonder if it's them who are constantly posting furry porn in the nsfw chat.

>>132968396
>>132968729
Samefag

>>132968773
He didn't call you a communist nor did he pull a strawman

>>132968769
THE DUDE IN THE THREAD IS NOT YOUR FRIEND
Seriously walk away

>>132968810
Nope. The truth hurts, doesn't it, fag? Is screaming 'samwfag!' the last thing you have left?

>>132968773
Of course it is. It is no coincidence that /pol/ is just one click away from /b/. Most of these kids are just angsty virgins.

>>132967181
Somebody has to shoop a smug pepe into this, change the flags and add new text like "togheter against CNN"

>>132968939
The truth that you decided to go full retard and break out the VPN to samefag/circlejerk yourself like Noah Antwiler talking to himself on Twitter?

It's just fucking sad Aaron.

>>132968869
So? I agree with something this non-friend is saying right now.

DUDE LIFE ISN'T ALL ABOUT A TRIBALISTIC MINDSET SEARCHING FOR ABSOLUTE AGREEMENT TO CONFIRM YOUR VIRGINAL EXISTENCE

Just go watch some tentacle porn and get to bed, kid. Summer school starts in a few hours.

>>132969038
This is some schizophrenic shitposting if I've ever seen it.
Good humor!

>>132958660
BUMP

>>132969033
>all the people that disagree with me are the same person

Christ, you're pathetic. You can't even counter what I brought up. Hitler wasn't pro-white, he was a German supremacist.

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>>132969100

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>>132968869
1. I never assume a moral high point position as he stated
2. What body count argument? Oh wait, that the communists killed more people suddenly makes me a shill? If it is true then doesn't RAz7t90/ technically actually accept the fact that the nazis were waging a genocidal war against Slavs and that 25+ million died YET according to him it's not as bad as gommunism? So the genocide of Belarusians/Ukrainians and Russians was a sort of necessary evil (or lesser evil in comparison with communism) huh because Stalin was so bad and gommunism had to be stopped at all costs before Stalin invaded Europe huh?

>>132958660
Ernst Zündel http://www.zundelsite.org/
David Irving http://www.fpp.co.uk/

>>132969176
Aaron.
A aa aaa aaaaron.
Come on buddy.
Maybe that's why your troll alt egos never really worked. You were an autistic slav the whole time.

>>132969226
Not my battle. Just saying it wasn't a strawman and he called you a shill not a commie. Also nice quick 20 second exit switch.
Recommend the suite

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>>132969226
assumed*

also

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"Kazimiera Mika, a ten-year-old Polish girl, mourns the death of her older sister, who was killed in a field near Jana Ostroroga Street in Warsaw during a German air raid by Luftwaffe."


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Ten-year-old Kazimiera Mika, whose older sister was killed while harvesting potatoes in a field near Jana Ostroroga Street in Warsaw during a German air raid is comforted by American photographer Julien Bryan, Poland, 13 September 1939.

In 2003 Sam Bryan donated both his father's still and motion picture footage of wartime Europe to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.

Photographer: Julien Byran (1899-1974)
Image courtesy of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

>>132969317
You're still assuming everyone that disagrees with you is just one single person using a VPN? Can't you see that you've still failed to address my point?

>>132969430
No just you. If you're not actually this fag >>132969360

then that should tell you you're sounding hivemind-y and using too many insults with a hint of somewhat poor English and to adjust yourself.

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>>132958660

>>132969226
Hitler was just trying to save the Slavs from communism, friend!

Once all the Slavs are dead, there will be none left for the communists to kill!

>>132965929
>belize
>rare
>hahaha le leddit
fuck off newfag

>>132969516
>two posters that have similar opinions are really just one person using VPN

No, my friend. If that's all you have on my point, if that's all you have to say in response, I'll accept that you don't have the mental fortitude to even try to argue against it.

>>132958660
>le nazis were actually le bad guys what with getting 50 million white people killed and destroying europe and making nationalism taboo to this day

>>132969654
Lol fuck off faggot

>>132966493
This

>>132969743
That, my friend, would not classify as an argument.

>>132969801
NOT
AN
ARGUMENT

>>132959392
Just scrolling across the link.
Here: https://grabien.com/profile.php?id=2249
It is claimed that Kate Bolduan is not Jewish because she is not ancestrally Jewish; however, Lenin's Jewish ancestry is dismissed because one of his grandparents converted, so he isn't a Jew. If Jewishness is truly a faith and not an ethnic group, then Kate is a Jew because she converted when she married her husband.

>>132969819
Not an argument, friend!

>>132961748
I remember seeing Nathan Bedford Forrest in every TCR thread and some other threads, while I used to see National View in most Holohoax threads. It's safe to assume that this Aaron guy is (((JIDF)))

>>132969844
https://yuki.la/pol/126531351
It's the same claim: Jewish marriage makes them a Jew if they are converts.
On the issue, it also dismisses Yagoda's role in collectivization and resorts to the "whatabout non-Jews who did this!". The entire point is to demonstrate Jewish involvement, not say that it was just Jews. Why is it that Jews are always so scared of being named for their wrongdoings? Here is one honest Jew talking about Dutch Jewish slave trade: http://www.timesofisrael.com/how-culpable-were-dutch-jews-in-the-slave-trade/.
Talking about Jewish involvement doesn't mean it was only Jews, but that Jews took part in certain actions and were not inconsequential.

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Daily reminder this quote is FAKE!


Rydz never said that because that's a fake quote and a fake source. It was even debunked by stormfront and axishistory:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=179570
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t978373-2/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZps7XSHwcY

>>132970008
I wouldn't be surprised.

Maybe he does have a friend or two after all.
Coordinated threads totally isn't suspicious to the people you're trying to convince
>>132958891
>>132958891

>>132970153
>sperging (with a copypasta) about irrelevant shit
Typical of you

>>132959392
Oh, and it also lists Karl Liebknecht as the "leader" of the Communist revolution, even though Rosa Luxembourg was also a co-conspirator, followed by Radek, Levi, and other Jews. How come this is omitted? What is the rationale behind leaving out Jews and, when convenient, making Judaism only a faith or Jewishness only an ethnic identity, or saying "well yeah Jews were guilty but what about other Jews?"

>>132970253
And it's typical that you're responding with butthurt because you're a bitchboy.

>>132970333
wowowowowowowowow

>>132959757
National Socialists are race traitors that backstab whites every chance they get, see Hitler giving half of Poland to the Soviet Union.

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>>132970446
(you)

>>132962975
Not even gonna lie, former Trump supporter here. It's hilarious watching you libcucks rip our president a new one. But seriously, Trump is finished. I'm turning in for the night. So sleepy. Going to bed. Good night.

>>132969819
I think it's because once you move away from the individual that commits crimes and dastardly acts and instead focus on a group to which that individual belongs, others in that group don't appreciate it. Sure it would be nice to see more Jews denounce communism. I don't think that any one Jew that is uninvolved in communism is responsible for communism in the same way that any one white who is not involved in slavery or colonization is responsible for slavery and colonization. And, if anything I've seen on /pol/ can show for this, it would be all the autistic something that happens when a black nationalist claims all whites are responsible for slavery, blacks being oppressed, and so on, or all men being rapists and so on.

>>132970676
Wrong thread

>>132962291
>Because well quite a few say they're some sort of patriots of Europe yet unknowingly seem to condone the ethnic cleansing of Slavic peoples. This type of behavior is destructive not only for people around them but it's hurting the autistic anti Slavic buffoons as well. If self proclaimed, "good," "cultured" natsocs really want to genocide Slavs then they should just admit it and count the cost of fighting and belittling Slavs like the nazis did in ww2. Hitler's regime wasn't pro European. It was pro Germanic.
This 100%

>>132958953
>Belize
Saved

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>>132970287
>>>/b/

>>132970507
1.Poland lost Posen, Danzig and many more territories in favor of the Germany during Partisions of Poland (1775-1795) when Prussia, Russian Empire, Austria-Hungary without proper claims to this territories threaten that if Poles don't resign from this lands they will attack Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth. Poland in 1795 lost independce for 123 years in favour of those countries. So telling about Danzig being stealed in 1918 by Poland is wrong, because they just retook their righfull lands from the thief the Prussia was,
2.There is no proved "massacres" on Germans from the hand of Poles. Danzig "massacre" according to Polish IPN took life of about 360 people where about 225 were Germans. Geobbels who is famous of words “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." claimed in rapport that during Danzig massacre died 1000 Germans and that prior to 1941 58.000 Germans died from the hand of Poles. It was lie to justify German war crimes on Poles and to keep UK and France oughta helping Poland. Number of Danzig massacre was far more increased by Goebbels and according to Antony Beevor during a war about 6.000 German citizens died in Poland during a war. 255 to 1000? 6.000 to 58.000? Good job Goebbels, you are good minister of propaganda! Yes, there were acts of revenge on Germans from Polish side but it was caused by being frustrated of fact Germans invading Poland.
3.Germans used Gliwitz iccident (attacking German radiostation by Germans in Polish uniforms) and Operation Himmler ( international propaganda campaign accusing Polish authorities of organizing or tolerating violent ethnic cleansing of ethnic Germans living in Poland) to justify German aggresion on Poland,
4.Danzig massacre took place during 3-4 september so it cannot be excuse for invasion which started in 1 september,

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>>132970507
5.Poles who fought in Wehramcht countless times met with nation discrimination: Punishments for using Polish language, joining Polish organistations or showing their Polish ancestory.
6.Germany used spies to stir up anti-Polish agenda before the war (ex: activity of Jungdeutsche Partei in Polen).
7.Official Polish foreign politicy was incompatible with discriminating Germans because Poland had doctrine of having good relations on the same level both with USRR and Nazi Germany prior to the war. Poland didn't want go to war with nor Nazi Germany nor USRR nor join this or this side. They wanted peace.
8.Little Treaty of Veraillies forced Poles to respect their German minority. Little treaty was condition for the conclusion of Treaty of Versaillies.

>>132970741
So you switched keys to post a question so you could respond to it with a copy pasta?
Wow so original Aaron.

Inb4 you switch to it again and shake the puppet so to speak to try to throw lurkers off

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CLAIM 6: "Hitler's invasion of Poland (Polenfeldzug) was justified because Poland was being genocidal toward ethnic Germans (Volksdeutsche) in its territories."

WRONG! The event alleged in TGSNT as "the Danzig massacre" is a hoax; what Dennis Wise is most likely referring to is rather an event known as "Bloody Sunday" which took place in Bromberg (today the city of Bydgoszcz) and firstly happened three days AFTER the German invasion of Poland and secondly many of the involved Volksdeutsche were in reality part of a poorly trained Pro-Nazi paramilitary force called the Selbstschutz who attacked the organized Polish Army during the German invasion and got the shit wrecked out of them as a result. When the Wehrmacht came across this, they reported their deaths back to Nazi leadership in Germany who used it for propaganda purposes ("muh innnocent defenseless German civilians hacked to death by Polish barbarians") to justify their invasion of Poland that had already begun via false flag (Gleiwitz incident[10]) and subsequent reprisals against the Polish populace once the nation was erased from the world map for the next 6 years and turned into a new entity known as the Generalgouvernement. Also, Poland never owned Danzig during the pre-war time. It was a free city under administration by the League of Nations. The war started because Hitler wanted the Danzig corridor. When Poland refused to just hand the area over as had been the case with Czechia ceding the Sudetenland and getting entirely annexed in the progress while the world remained silent, Hitler invaded.

CLAIM 7: "Hitler offered a 16 point peace plan to Britain after the fall of France which the warmongering British refused."

The world had learned Hitler's "peace offers" werent worth the paper they were written on after what happened with his Munich Agreement[11]. In any case the peace plan was shitty because it effectively gave Germany control over all areas it had conquered.

https://imgur.com/a/wo09c

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>>132970827
Shhh...... no tears just dreams now...

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>>132970507
Hitler was trash and betrayed the white race to pursue his own selfish ethnic aryan interests. All NatSocs are anti-whites.

>>132970733
How is this the wring thread? I was answering the question "Why is it that Jews are always so scared of being named for their wrongdoings?". The answer was, if you could read, roughly along the lines of "Because saying that it's the wrongdoings of the Jews as a group rather than the wrongdoings of individuals, people don't take kindly to that", and then I brought up the endless shitposting that happens when someone on the opposite side of this shit coin claims whites need to take respknsibility for whatever ailment they suffer from today.

>>132970925
Lol were you the dude spamming that image?
I knew only a retard could come up with this.

>highlighting the two post-war Polands
Classic.

You are the best at producing "I AM SILLY" materials and posts Aaron I swear.


>>132970960
Scream all you want Schlomo you're not disturbing any minds.

>>132971030
You quoted me not whoever you meant to answer then.

>>132971145
You're right, I didn't notice that. I'll get that corrected.

>>132970676
Meant for >>132970057

>>132970960
The world would be a better place without Jews like you.

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>>132971145
>being pro-white makes you jewish

>>132970741
Do you have no response to the whole "it was only Karl and nobody else, forget these Jews that were also involved that doesn't matter" thing? I thought deliberately omitting information was a bad thing.
To the point of territorial claims, that's how partitions work. All you are doing is highlighting the swinging pendulum of territorial claims. Shifting lands that shifted once more in favour of the Germans. You even cite it right here: >>132970925
First the Poles had it, then the Germans, and now the Poles again. There were German-speakers in Western Poland who were to be united under one flag, that was the whole point of lebensraum.
What you say "rightful land" is the entire point of contention: one side believed it was theirs, the other believed the opposite.
On the point of the German purpose for invading, there actually was, albeit inflated, reasoning behind the invasion (save for the whole lebensraum thing): http://www.johndclare.net/RoadtoWWII3_HitlerInvadesPoland.htm. There was a whole pact involved, just like the last partition.
There is a whole history behind their relationship: https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/wrsynopsis.html
The 58k figure is obviously inflated. Because there is no evidence exhuming the dead to corroborate the claim... kind of like the Holocaust. Funny how your own standards of evidence can work against you...
Again, you use the Gleiwitz incident, taken at face value because of anecdotes. Extending your own standard of evidence refutes your claim.

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It's still funny to piss people off with Hitler Pictures and faking yourself as nazi, I6EtLCHD-anon. I'm going to act as one for as long as it makes people rage, just like edgy kids who use satanism to enrage their christian parents.

HALE HORTLER FAGGOT ;)
>>132970769

>>132958660
you can enjoy these in the mean time, great footage

>Adolf Hitler's Warning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s
>Joseph Gobbels’ Warning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yopqrazma4o
>George Rockwell - American National Socialism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShXEiA-1RI
>Adolf Hitler - You Said I Was A Dreamer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGqG3grTrg
>Adolf Hitler - Truth Will Triumph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ymEKiY1UR8
>Why did Hitler hate Jews?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5nzjkmtCOc
>Germanic National Socialism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSz4BItxYl8
>Oswald Mosley - Europe Lives and Marches On
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNPzlFivd3M
>Oswald Mosley - Fascism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqHqCyjeugI
>Oswald Mosley - Europe A Nation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-AjVAuqGms
>Oswald Mosley - Britain Reborn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le-9uWKe2dk
>Oswald Mosley: Europeans (documentary 1h20m)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbbL4l359bo
>Hermann Göring: The 300 Spartans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7vbi6c6ePQ
>Adolf Hitler - What is Europe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukwA--tIokg
>The Struggle for Survival
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79lqq4wwmsI
>Joseph Goebbels - Is it Pagan?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_LHwKxcOIM
>Adolf Hitler on Feminism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoPyi7yGjSo

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>>132971413
>point out all the dead whites due to Hitler's actions
>point out that National Socialists always put the interests of Aryans over all other white ethnic groups
>JEW JEW JEW YOU MUST BE A JEW

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>>132971431
Lol keep squiring kike.

>>132958660
How long did it take for people to be comfortable to view the mongols through an objective lense? I'm pretty sure that the Chinese are still too butthurt to do that.

>>132971606
>>132971561
Woah what is this shit? Proxy or did some billionaire start funding GIYUS to advertise on forums again?

>>132967933
cringed at this post

>>132958660
>genuinely enjoying the history channel
absolutely disgusting

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>>132971676
>>132971610
Fuck Hitler. All NatSocs are traitors to the white race.

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I wonder.

Is the west full of pussies because mostwho had the genes of courage and virtue died in WW2? On all sides?

>>132970769
How can you verify this claim? Poles were punished for using their language and... joining Polish organizations while being part of a German one? What part of ultra-nationalist ideology didn't you catch?
Germans didn't like the Poles, the Treaty wasn't something that was well-received and the same hand that graciously accepted the territory was to be struck by the swinging pendulum of territorial claims. Mexicans still haven't forgotten about the land they lost and I'm sure the nationalists would like to take it back.
Poland vying for peace right after a war is only reasonable, especially when it turned out in their favour.
So losing 7 million people from the claims is to be forgotten because the Poles would play nice? That's not what lebensraum was about.
>>132970845
Extending your own standard of evidence refutes the claims about the Holocaust. Just a heads-up.
This is really strange, nobody is claiming that the aftermath of the invasion was what caused it, there was growing hostility prior to the invasion against the Germans. Just because there is debate on what the figure is doesn't mean it never happened. Isn't that your exact assertion on the Holocaust?

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Daily reminder hitler's ritterbruders.

>>132970960
Using this argument, Napoleon was also anti-white because he lost and millions died in the war, so he must hate white people.
Examining these things through a peacetime lens isn't really accurate.

>the holohoax story is already wearing thin since the emergence of social media platforms....the Jews are getting nervous.

Jews killed 6 million Jews in the 2nd world war, and sacrifice jews daily to the muslim hordes, doesn't meant they're not doing what's best for jews,.

>>132971823
Oh wandering TRS faggot.
Go back. The dude you're trying to back up hates you more than he hates me anyway.

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>>132972209
Prussians: Germanified Slavs who were made to believe they were baltic Prussians.

That's German ingenuity!

>>132970741
Here is some more interesting doublethink: https://imgur.com/a/on1l8
"It is also true that Jews are over-represented (i.e. percentage-wise compared to their total numbers in society) in non-menial labor sectors of the economy, just like African Americans and Hispanics are over-represented in US prisons. Does this mean we can make a scientific case that blacks and hispanics are criminal by nature? Or does this rather mean the socio-economic conditions, and perspectives regarding education have unfavorably affected these communities and we're seeing the results of a failure by the government to properly address these persisting deficits when it comes to education and opportunity? Jews have indeed placed importance in education for hundreds of years. Being barred from owning land in Medieval Europe and self-imposing mercantile restrictions helped Jews establish themselves in educational and business ventures. When they came to the New World, they brought these skills with them."

Using your own argument, if the New World slave trade has any tangible and measurable impact on modern blacks (not sure about Hispanics, they weren't slaves like the blacks were), then that means that the impact slavery has on blacks today is a result of the parents sharing experience/traits onto their offspring which is an assertion towards hereditarianism, not pure environmentability. It is a self-refuting argument. If slavery had any impact, then it would have to be genetically transmitted seeing as how slavery has already been abolished for a while now. See: https://notpoliticallycorrect.me/2016/11/27/what-if-the-hereditarian-hypothesis-is-true/

>>132972330
>>132972209
I'm out for the night but damn this anti-German butthurt from you Aaron...
Did you walk in on a German fucking your mom when you were a lad?
Where does the resentment come from?

>>132972398
More again: "Another fun fact occurs when White "race realists" try bringing up outdated early 20th century eugenics and race and IQ statistics to "prove" there is scientific correlation between intelligence and a person's race, completely ignoring factors like access to education, opportunity, wealth & prosperity, lack of oppression, motivation, and how large the pool of people who participated in the survey was and from where they came. In such situations I just remind them whether they have read their own "science papers" they are presenting to realize that their supposed master race in fact possesses an inferior IQ than East Asians and Jews or tell them to look up how many Jews have received Nobel Prizes for their work, and how this is more in percentage to the total number of Jews than the percentage of White recipients is to their race total. That's usually when they quietly drop their claims and scurry away to another topic."

Who are you talking about? Nobody denies high Jewish verbal IQ, spatial IQ is another story, and even hapas demonstrate higher spatial IQ due to the European influence.
For more on the topic of race and its implications: http://www.humanbiologicaldiversity.com/articles/Fuerst%2C%20John.%20%22The%20nature%20of%20race.%22%20Open%20Behavioral%20Genetics%2C%20June%2C%202015.pdf, https://z139.wordpress.com/2012/06/10/the-facts-that-need-to-be-explained/.
I'm sorry, evolution exists and hereditarianism is valid.

>>132972209
Y-DNA is only half the story. PCA mapping is far more accurate.
>>132972330
Using this argument, Germans had rightful claims on the land that is in-dispute. Which is it?

>>132971606
>>point out all the dead whites due to Hitler's actions
The whole thing could have been avoided if the English hadn't have gone to war with Germany.

>>point out that National Socialists always put the interests of Aryans over all other white ethnic groups
What's you point? The National Socialists were always working in the interest of the German people; this is common knowledge. No one cared about this idea of "the white race" at the time. Ethnicity meant more to people than their race.

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>>132972511
You support German colonialism and the belittlement of Slavs. You are anit Slavic. Pro German, and let me guess, perhaps Nordist too thinking Hitler's twisted "Aryan" ideal is correct?

Anti Slav is anti Slav. Stay mad little subhuman.

>>132971823
Sure thing pal, log off the computer and go back to the cuck shed until you feel better.

>>132972599
Who the fuck are you talking to? If you want to speak to the author then message him through imgur.

>pol intellectuals

>>132962314
>implying that it is considered honoring once agreement of polish independence by letting them be "LIBERATED" by gommunism.

There was no honoring of that guarantee, the UK was just merely looking for someone to buy them some time to fight the germans.

If something is illegal to question, it didn't happen. Period. This is the only relevant fact about the Holocaust.

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>>132958660
The jewbs hab alreaby oneb...

>>132972816
See: >>132970741
>>132970769
>>132970845
You are admitting that you only copy-paste material without even reading it. How can you know what you talk about? I wasn't the author of my links but I have read them. What a weak argument, either engage in the discussion or admit you don't even read what you post to know enough to defend it.

>>132958660
TGSNT is also biased as well, one example is their claim that the British bombers struck German cities first, which there is little to no evidence of, unless you consider missing a military target in night fog on one occassion to be good enough reason for Germany to level London.
Be careful with that movie, and check your facts. Most of it is good and true desu, but they probably spin the narrative a little in other places too.

>>132972816
Some more doublethink: https://imgur.com/a/on1l8

"So let me recap: Marx's father converted to Protestantism, Marx's mother converted to Protestantism, and Marx himself was not religious, though he was baptized Christian in August 1824 at age 6. But he is apparently still a Jew? Not by religion, but by race?"

www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/dna-links-prove-jews-are-a-race-says-genetics-expert-1.428664
Yes. Jews are a race and a faith. If you convert, you are a follower of Judaism, but you are not ethnically Jewish.

>>132972925
>You are admitting that you only copy-paste material without even reading it.

You might be a retard. Sorry.

>>132961456
sounds like bolshevik revolution to me

>>132972816
Some more omission of information: https://imgur.com/a/wo09c
"But how Jewish were the Bolsheviks really?"
Pointing out non-Jews does not mean the Jews cease to exist. Suggest reading the following:
"https://thechosenites.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/200-years-together.pdf"
Or: http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Jews_and_Communism_(copy_of_deleted_Wikipedia_article), http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Jews_and_Communism.

Pointing out Jewish roles in these movements doesn't mean others never took part, and pointing to "hey, look at 'x'" glosses over the point entirely.

>>132973164
So still no arguments?

>>132967933
Commies reporting mortar coordinates on Germans is your proof Hitler wanted to exterminate slaves?

Czar and Kaiser were best of friends defending Prussia and Russia from Jewish banker Napoleon. Jew assassinated Franz Ferdinand to trigger war that they didn't want. As Russia weakened, New York bankers took over Russia, and mass murdered Russians, and threatened to do the same to Germany. So Hitler gets elected. And to continue the division of Russia and Germany, bankers claim Hitler wanted to mass murder Russians. And you parrot it.

>>132973164
Oh, and before you claim "everything is anti-Semitic", pointing out Nazi bias is the same argument that can be used against your own assertions.

>>132960376
I want to shit in your grandmother's mouth.

>>132973348
Stormfront tier logic.

I post arguments another person made. You clearly can't refute them so resort to personally attacking me.

>>132973497
I want to cut your testes off with your lips, tongues and ears you subhuman pindos mongoloid shitter.

>>132962976
just google some feminist role models, bitches dont care about history but "succesful women". if you think you can impress women with knowladge, you are as shallow as the average women

>>132973735
>Stormfront tier logic.
Poisoning the well doesn't make up for your lack of evidence.
>I post arguments another person made. You clearly can't refute them so resort to personally attacking me.
I am critiquing the arguments and you can't defend them, so you push strawmen on me and attack those, even though you can't quote me stating such a thing.
How have I personally attacked you?

>>132973064

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6p1zxKnDeM

>this triggers the zionist

>>132974068
Link it to him, not me. Jews did play a leading role in the early Soviet government: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyar0goYMdU

>>132967271
t. Buttmad Slavshit

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>>132974138

But you know he'll deny it. He's a shill.

>>132973064
Was interesting until I read
>among circles that cry white genocide because they can't get laid
Everything he said I already knew (and is why I didn't associate with Nazis much, they tend to get defensive about some of their falsehoods) but it was interesting to read all in one place ofc, but he ruined it by dismissing Marx as not a Jew when he clearly is descended from it, and Stalin as not a Jew when Lenin was, and so was the majority of the Stalins administration.
Whoever wrote it is pretty smart to look up stuff, but intellectually dishonest and biased.

>>132973418
>same argument that can be used against your own assertions.

My assertions?

>>132972925
So looking back now what made you assume I didn't read what I posted? How can I talk about it? Because I have knowledge of the subject. Weak argument? Hm so "my" arguments are weak, because... you assume I don't know the subject? You assume I don't know the personality of Hitler and that he was batshit insane? You're saying I'm not aware of the previous german colonialism in Europe?

>>132958953
>rare

>>132974923
It is ironic to willfully omit information about Marx's Jewishness solely because he converted away from the faith, yet cede that Jews who are ancestrally Jewish are Jews. Two different things.
Oh, I've never claimed Stalin was a Jew, but the primary argumentative tactic is to take something somebody claims to say, then extend it to, say, me and claim "look what you believe, you dummy!"
>>132975017
>My assertions?
Yes, see: >>132971347
>>132971437
>>132971037
>>132971156
>>132971219
Using your own standard of evidence, the Holocaust's death toll is dismissed because there is not enough evidence for the claims, beyond anecdotes. You can certainly claim Jews were oppressed and all, but not to the delusion and grandeur of your death toll.
>So looking back now what made you assume I didn't read what I posted? How can I talk about it? Because I have knowledge of the subject. Weak argument? Hm so "my" arguments are weak, because... you assume I don't know the subject?
Then refute the following posts where I raise my critiques: >>132967725
>>132969844
>>132970057
>>132970287
>>132971482
>>132971973
>>132972398
>>132972599
>>132972673
Here is one of your responses: >>132970741
">>>/b/"

How is this an argument? You don't even know I browse /b/, let alone making that a detriment to my critiques. "You are wrong because you browse boards I list" is not an argument. Try harder.
I even linked to the guy who said he made the CNN Jew list here: https://yuki.la/pol/126531351
He said that he listed Jewish converts.
You cite arguments that dismiss Marx because he converted FROM Judaism, yet you cite posts that claim those CNN converts to Jews aren't really Jewish.
>Marx isn't a Jew because his father converted to Christianity
>Kate Bouldan isn't a Jew because she converted to Judaism
Pick one

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HAhahahah people in this thread seriously shill for USSR

Reminder: USSR is shit tier like mexico

>>132975342
I know, but the author is trying to assert that the USSR was not a Jewish construct when it very very obviously was, but with a white face.

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>it's a shill gets btfo then stops replying thread

>>132958660
start here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XExjrZxTdk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkQ6J5F01Do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm34sj65MkA&t=970s

>>132958660
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vfdZtpx_ug

>>>132958660
The Greatest Story Never Told is no slideshow either it is the best WWII doc I have ever seen and like you growing up I saw literally ever WWII doc ever on the History and Military Channel

>>132975342
>>Marx isn't a Jew because his father converted to Christianity
>>Kate Bouldan isn't a Jew because she converted to Judaism

Didn't make those arguments. The guy on that imgur made them. I linked his imgur for the holocaust controversy.

>>132967725
The soviets didn't parrot all over the world how their own country men were mercilessly murdered though. Any claims that a lebensraum is false hence is bullshit and not in anyway allied "propaganda."

>>132970057
Not all jews are the same. The ones who greatly suffered usually belonged to orthodox communities. A minority doesn't speak for the majority. Besides speaking of Jews looking at their past shows that they fulfilled biblical prophecy many times which enrages atheists/liberals/nazi apologists.

>>132971973
You want me to verify the thousands of accounts of nazi atorcities from the eastern front too yes and have a historian back it up? Btw the person who made the comment made it on youtube. It's quite clear that the Germans hated poles due to nazi brainwashing, thus such claims even if made up wouldn't it no way be outrageous. And I heard it before that some Poles fought for Hitler against Stalin just like some Ukrainians and Russians did although Ukrainian and Russian civilians were massacred many times.

>>132958660
>"massive history geek"
>reject decades of historical research because you were dumb enough to fall for /pol/ groupthink, infographics and bogus neo-nazi youtube "documentaries"

you were never a history geek, faggot

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>>132976300
Sorry no literal kikes allowed.

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>>132976300

>I can't provide any evidence

>>132972036
Was it his goal to exterminate a white/european ethno linguistic group like Hitler wanted to? No. Hitler wanted a Europe with lots of land for people with the Scandinavian phenotype which isn't even Aryan. Linguistically speaking Slavic and Lithuanian languages are closest to Sanskrit. And why were there iranic *cough* *cough* early slavic *cough* nomadic tribes in Europe 1,500-900 years ago such as the Antes and Horvats?

>>132972398
>It is also true that Jews are over-represented (i.e. percentage-wise compared to their total numbers in society)

Why ask an irrelevant question? Is it a mystery that jews raise their children to have high paying jobs like they did throughout Europe for many decades?

>>132972599
So you're responding with jargon about the "joos" in response to my post about Poland?

>>132972673
If German Prussians were 100% German they are still larpers, larping as balts under a baltic identity. Cowardly tactic really, reminds me of how hitler lovers like to dismiss claims of nazi atrocities and say that hitler was a good boy.

>>132972925
What are you saying? Why are you addressing me instead of the arguments?

>>132970741
>>132970769
>>132970845

So you're a hitler apologist? Your leaning towards the nazis is sickening. And again, I DIDN'T READ WHAT I POSTED? BASED ON WHAT ASSUMPTION/LOGIC/REASONING.

Either (try to) refute the arguments which will make you an apologists of german colonialism or stop trolling.

>>132976104
>Didn't make those arguments. The guy on that imgur made them. I linked his imgur for the holocaust controversy.
So you and I agree Marx and Bouldan are Jews, great.
>The soviets didn't parrot all over the world how their own country men were mercilessly murdered though. Any claims that a lebensraum is false hence is bullshit and not in anyway allied "propaganda."
Post-WW2 was Soviet's version of claiming the land they desired, most likely because they wanted to and did it. Perhaps Brest-Litovsk left a bad taste in their mouths? Germans only claim lebensraum to reunite the 7 million Germans lost from the Treaty, in other lands.
>Not all jews are the same.
Still doesn't dismiss Jewish contribution to these movements. Architects of mass murder being Jews has yet to be refuted beyond tu quoque.
>You want me to verify the thousands of accounts of nazi atorcities from the eastern front too yes and have a historian back it up?
You don't already have this information?
>best documented event
>no physical documentation corroborating the death toll exists
Just cite the exhumation report of the mass graves beyond anecdotes or logical leaps inferring from census data what is not logical.

>>132959757
>that pic calling "civic nationalism"
Just that turbanheads and traitors to the culture would be fed to dogs, but never mind that...

>liberating their people in Poland
By planing to go all the way to Moscow?

Nazism is an ideology for subhumans with inferiority complexes. Hitler was a useless failed painter with nothing to his name.

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>that damage control

His only defense is name calling.

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>>132976940

>Nazism is an ideology for subhumans with inferiority complexes. Hitler was a useless failed painter with nothing to his name.

More name calling. Holy shit this man can't debate at all.

>>132976668
>Was it his goal to exterminate a white/european ethno linguistic group like Hitler wanted to? No. Hitler wanted a Europe with lots of land for people with the Scandinavian phenotype which isn't even Aryan. Linguistically speaking Slavic and Lithuanian languages are closest to Sanskrit. And why were there iranic *cough* *cough* early slavic *cough* nomadic tribes in Europe 1,500-900 years ago such as the Antes and Horvats?
Presupposing that the intention was as you describe without actually corroborating your death toll with evidence is still not an argument.
In terms of conquest and war, they were the same. The argument was "loss of life=anti-white", so Napoleon or Churchill are categorized the same way because they lost the war or their empires.
So Hitler was such an imperialist that he conquered the new world and removed their population? Wasn't that the Brits/Spaniards? Reunifying German people was the initial goal. After the war broke out, the main purpose was to pave a way to the East to take on the Soviets. Read Mein Kampf, that much was obvious. Destroying the Soviets was the goal. It failed and the Soviets lived on. "Aryan" isn't the correct term, it doesn't mean anything. Germanic would be more accurate.
>Why ask an irrelevant question?
That was actually the main thesis of the imgur posts you linked to. Read your own citations next time, this is embarrassing.
>So you're responding with jargon about the "joos" in response to my post about Poland?
That post did not even once mention anything that wasn't cited in the original post, discussing Jewish IQ and how socio-economic factors are the only relevant determinant of racial differences, which is demonstrably false.
>If German Prussians were 100% German
What do you think hereditarianism is about? No such "100%" exists, common ancestry exists.

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>>132976940
>By planing to go all the way to Moscow?

Typical soviet shill russians were literally taking offensive positions and only had maps of Germany at hand when Hitler launched Barbarossa.

It was either attack first get stabbed in the back in short order.

>>132976737
Germanic goths made incursions into eastern europe yet they either migrated out or died out. Also where the Germans in ussr persecuted? Before the war soviets and germans had good relations. Did Russians persecute Germans? So according to your logic let's say if 14 million Germans lived in Germany in 1941 that would give the ussr the right to attack? So basically where ever the people go their nation goes? A gypsy/jewish thing really.

It's common knowledge of how brutal the nazis were in eastern europe considering how many soldiers witnessed atrocities along with the civilians. Casual exuections, hangings, 50 shot/hanged for one German dead. To say it wasn't a war of annihilation is being dishonest. Eastern Slavs were to become slaves. Not the first time something like that happened.

Sclaveni who were southern migrating slaves afaik were later viewed as Slavs.

late 13c., "person who is the chattel or property of another," from Old French esclave (13c.), from Medieval Latin Sclavus "slave" (source also of Italian schiavo, French esclave, Spanish esclavo), originally "Slav" (see Slav); so used in this secondary sense because of the many Slavs sold into slavery by conquering peoples.


Vikings also raided and kidnapped celts and Slavs. I wonder if they attacked Gords though. Probably couldn't because raiding unarmed villagers was easier in distant locations.

We don't actually mind jews, /pol/ is just satire
inb4 stormfags

>>132977278
14 million Russians lived in Germany*

Sorry.

>>132976668
People are still related, but genetic distances are not non-existent or inconsequential. It is primarily Germanic people, as in language, culture, and the racial group, but that is not "only Germans who ever existed". That doesn't exist, stop pushing strawmen.
>What are you saying? Why are you addressing me instead of the arguments?
You asked me where it was said that "you" made the arguments. I linked to your own posts where you referenced ME here: >>132973067
So I cited your own posts as proof of your arguments that you linked to. It is relevant, context denial is not an argument.

can anyone give we a quotation from hitler about saving the white race?

>>132961742
>juden are never mentioned as they are irrelevant to us as a frequently genocided ethnicity
This. I must have been in high school when I first understood the relevance of Jews to WWII. Never in Finnish WWII material did it occur to me that they were anything special.

>>132977461
>In Mein Kampf, Hitler described children resulting from any kind of relationship to African occupation soldiers as a contamination of the white race "by Negro blood on the Rhine in the heart of Europe."[6] He thought that "Jews were responsible for bringing Negroes into the Rhineland, with the ultimate idea of bastardizing the white race which they hate and thus lowering its cultural and political level so that the Jew might dominate."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhineland_Bastard

>>132977278
>Germanic goths made incursions into eastern europe yet they either migrated out or died out.
Right at the turn of the war, there was a proportion of German-speaking people in Western Poland. It's common knowledge that has been agreed upon that Germans lost 7 million people due to territorial changes.
>Also where the Germans in ussr persecuted?
Strawman, never claimed this.
>Before the war soviets and germans had good relations. Did Russians persecute Germans?
Never claimed this. Read Mein Kampf, the ideological conflict was inevitable for the reasons even Patton recalled: the Soviets were not to be trusted.
>So according to your logic let's say if 14 million Germans lived in Germany in 1941 that would give the ussr the right to attack?
If Germans lived in Germany the whole time, lebensraum would not exist.
>It's common knowledge of how brutal the nazis were in eastern europe considering how many soldiers witnessed atrocities along with the civilians. Casual exuections, hangings, 50 shot/hanged for one German dead
Crush opposition with an iron fist so as to set an example. Yet partisan activity continued and people still violated the laws imposed on "no Jews being harboured". Jews were non-citizens, harbouring illegal aliens is a crime.
>>132977339
If Germans lived in Russia, there would be no German state. If every German lived in Russia, Germany would not exist. Kind of how Israel was non-existent for a long time, then it was created again. The same nationalist tendencies for a Jewish homeland is the entire purpose for lebensraum. Don't think Jews were too happy about the Pale of Settlement and all that, yet Germans are supposed to tolerate it? Jews haven't stopped kvetching about the pogroms and all, yet German territory and people are fragmented, they are supposed to take it sitting down?

>>132960376
Yeah Soviets were good guys. When you have a cause worth fighting for you need political commissars and guns behind your own line to force the men into a meat grinder instead of bringing the guns to the front to actually help them fight right? Yeah people do remember how the Nazis behaved, they behaved relatively civil compared to the Soviets before and after German occupation. The only ones with sob stories are the Jews and the faggots who had partisans in their family.

>>132977404
>muh denial of context

I was forced to respond because um (>>132975342). The questions I answered weren't really related to that which I don't really know much in thorough detail, that is what educated holocaust deniers probably say and what do educated historians say about the holocaust. I did find the imgur links interesting though as I have good reason not to believe but consider it as fact requiring no faith that what they've said is correct.

>>132977652
>Strawman, never claimed this.

Never said you did. Asked a question. Since it is not in any way justifiable, the notion that it's okay to charge into a country raping and pillaging because some Germans moved there who could of thought that THAT land truly belonged to them. Could have been subvert colonialism through the backdoor which isn't good or nice.

>>132977652
Coming to Belarus and killing pregnant women, children and elderly also is not okay. You didn't say it was, but I'm just saying for your information. Also according to whom was it illegal? The nazis? You think people gave that much of a shit about a foreign invading power which they hated? Oh how horrible right that people fighting back whose family members were killed, because it's illegal and they're not in official military uniform hurr durrr we can break the rules and ethnically cleanse the land but if the civilians will fight back they're criminal scum worthy of dead. You know a genocidal war is a genocidal war? Who gives a shit about retarded nonsensical obsolete rules when a war quickly goes from a war of political ideologies to a war of two ethno-linguistic culture groups (to an extent as not all Slavs fought against Hitler and by this I mean the Croats).

>>132977921
Real sob bullshit is the tgsnt bullshit and muh rapes when seemingly "moral" nazi apologists on youtube turn a blind eye to the 5x german atrocities against Slavs.

>>132978302
death*

>>132958660
Try reading a book on WW2 you sperg. History channel isn't history it's just entertainment. TGSNT is just Goebbels propaganda. The only truth to it is that Hitler rose to power from starting off as a nobody which is an amazing story. But so did stalin and Obama there are plenty of these stories in history.


The Nazis were a meme. They ruined German science by politicising it. They were behind the Soviets in all technology except assault rifles. They effectively lost the war against the ussr in the first 6 months and truly lost it after Stalingrad in the following year. Naziboos need to move on.

>>132958660
Not sure if translated, search for Sensacje XX Wieku

Its long ongoing series made by awesome historician here. They focus on lots of WWII aspects.

>>132978492
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuPJVxZSbV4bf7QYT7bRPmA here some guy archived loads of them, but again you need google translate since I`ve never seen them subbed english

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>>132960376
Marxism is a cancer that exploits the worst in people, it isn't a traditionalist movement like so many of you retarded cunts try to make it seem to be, it was the bane of traditionalism, it strips people of their culture and replaces it with a fucking synthetic cancer, it then tries to make everyone carbon copies of one another, and in so doing strips them of their identity until it is all one big mess, and everything descends into Nihilism. Marxists also deny racial differences, they live with the comfortable, blue pilled lie that they are all equal genetically and that there is no natural hierarchy that will form due to the unbreakable class system that is ubermensch and untermensch.

Marxists, ashkenazi Jews, and post modernists are all come under the same group, they are traitors and deceivers, and traitors are worse than any enemy the white man can face, and Marxists can only be dealt with in one way. If Britain ever truly embraced Marxism and communism and there was no turning back I would follow what Otoya did.

https://youtu.be/e0hMXduFi64

>>132967011
You have a really shit understanding of race and indeed the term "master race" itself.

I suggest killing yourself.

>>132978689
short black haried austraian
goebels beeing fat whale
the most of nazi party beeing black haried mongrels

managed to full krautz into "WE WUZ ARIAN BLOND MASTER RACE" and they still belive this shit

germans are such idiots

>>132978623
I'm a marxist now for being a defender of Slavs? You deranged hitler lovers really show how anti Slavic you are, why then do some of you try to hide it and why do some even lie to themselves saying hitler had no evil intentions in regards to the eastern Slavic populace?

Truly your blood will be shed if you dare hurt us again.

>>132978302
In the post you linked here (>>132977404)
I did not mention context denial. That was a response to genetic distances and how "Aryan" isn't an accurate term, not context denial. That was earlier.
>I don't really know much in thorough detail
So why debate if you lack knowledge and information?
>Never said you did. Asked a question.
You said: Also where the Germans in ussr persecuted? Before the war soviets and germans had good relations. Did Russians persecute Germans? So according to your logic let's say if 14 million Germans lived in Germany in 1941 that would give the ussr the right to attack? So basically where ever the people go their nation goes?
This is a rhetorical question extending my "logic" you think I purport to another example, thereby pushing a narrative on me I never alleged to believe.
>the notion that it's okay to charge into a country raping and pillaging because some Germans moved there who could of thought that THAT land truly belonged to them
Using this logic, North America belongs to the indigenous people. Oh wait, all of human history is fuelled by territorial conflict and war, seems like it isn't unique to ONLY the Germans. The Poles didn't sprout from the earth, they fought for their land just as the Germans fought for that same land.
>Coming to Belarus and killing pregnant women, children and elderly also is not okay.
War has no rules. Sorry, but human rights don't exist anywhere else but on paper. I don't doubt that many innocents died, but don't act as if it was only a German phenomenon. War is ruthless.
>Also according to whom was it illegal? The nazis? You think people gave that much of a shit about a foreign invading power which they hated?
Yeah, that's the law of the land once the conquerers arrive. Using this logic, the natives in the New World are not to blame for infractions against laws the Americans put in place. But they were, because conquerers write the law, not the conquered.

>>132978302
>Oh how horrible right that people fighting back whose family members were killed, because it's illegal and they're not in official military uniform hurr durrr we can break the rules and ethnically cleanse the land but if the civilians will fight back they're criminal scum worthy of dead.
What rules? There are no rules in war. Appealing to human rights is not an argument, it is kill or be killed.
If the Germans wanted to ethnically cleanse the lands, there would be no Poles. They had a war to fight, unless you can cite some massive graves and loss of life beyond anecdotes and logical leaps of "census decrease=gas and shootings", then you have no physical evidence. Like I said, cite any report investigating these claims. Must be super easy, given how fervent your beliefs are.
>Who gives a shit about retarded nonsensical obsolete rules
>hurr durrr we can break the rules
Using your own argument: Who gives a shit about retarded nonsensical obsolete rules.
War has no rules, no matter what side you are on.

>>132978938
>This is a rhetorical question extending my "logic" you think I purport to another example, thereby pushing a narrative on me I never alleged to believe.

Okay then? Holy shit.

>The Poles didn't sprout from the earth, they fought for their land just as the Germans fought for that same land.

Are nihilistic and sadistic, utterly destructive wars necessary? Because even if one side doesn't have no historical connection to the land but if it takes it by force it's okay? I'd say it's not just based on a fair ethical judgement, metric of reasoning. So the notion of survival of the fittest if applied to whole nations is just? If a nation has the capacity and does win it's has the right to write the rules? Well can't say I really disagree

Then don't whine and bring up absurd retarded examples, ie "harbouring illegal aliens is a crime." Sure it was a crime in the eys of the natsees, but in the eyes of the innocent peasants the drunk and rabid krauts were one huge shitstain on their land thus they had to driven out. They were the living embodiment of crime itself.

Nobody gives a shit about wannabe conquers laws especially if they failed at conquering.

>>132979614
>Okay then? Holy shit.
You just refuted your own point by admitting to my counter-point's validity. You weren't kidding when you said you weren't prepared for discussion.
>Are nihilistic and sadistic, utterly destructive wars necessary?
Ought-is fallacy. It is irrelevant what is just or moral, simply what happens. Was British conquest of India 'just'? Who cares.
>Because even if one side doesn't have no historical connection to the land but if it takes it by force it's okay?
How do you think the USA came to exist. Besides, there were German-speaking people and influences of German culture in the territory they lost and their initial claims pre-war. Like I said, the agreed upon figure is that 7 million Germans were displaced after the treaty. You don't even know what you mean by "no historical connection". You even admitted to prior German control here: >>132970925
>So the notion of survival of the fittest if applied to whole nations is just?
The entire issue is amoral.
>Then don't whine and bring up absurd retarded examples, ie "harbouring illegal aliens is a crime."
Except it is a crime. They were mighty and conquered the land, then placed law that was broken. Violators were punished.
>Sure it was a crime in the eys of the natsees, but in the eyes of the innocent peasants the drunk and rabid krauts were one huge shitstain on their land thus they had to driven out.
Irrelevant. The guilty will always claim they are innocent and "dindu nuffin". Break the law, pay the price. Don't harbour illegals.
>Nobody gives a shit about wannabe conquers laws especially if they failed at conquering.
Not initially, and when the laws were put in place. That's the timeframe in question, stop conflating post-war with the events during the war.

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If the evil Nazis killed everyone... Who witnessed and passed on the story of the Nazis killing everyone in vivid detail that doesn't get put on the internet but is told to kids and is totally real?

>>132979614
To extend on this point, anytime any group of people is conquered by another group of people, the conquered, so you claim, should have every right to defy the new leadership by any means. The time for fervent defiance was when the war was going on, not when the war was settled.
And when the new leadership's rules are broken by the people who are upset at the outcome, when punishment is served you cry out "we dindu nuffin fuck these new guys"? There's no winning with you lot. The conquerers had a rule of the land, whether you liked it or not. Americans did it, Germans did it, all conquerers have done it. Like it or face punishment, deal with it

>>132979063
Regarding whether or not rules apply or not is dependent of the severity of the war. I find it bullshit that a maniac who was very delusional started a war such that was in the first place. Also it is sometimes good that there be no war at all. No teenagers ending up in mental hospitals because they saw their friends being evaporated. No husbands forced to sacrifice their humanity for a cause shrouded in idiocy. Besides to trigger the tards in charge one thing enemy soldiers can do is to treat the enemy wounded and save their life, thus thereby placing hot coals on their heads (it's an idiom).

>>132980054
They sinned greatly against the inhabitants and reaped what they sowed. They "liberated" it from gommunism by charging into villages and killing teenagers and pregnant women who they found walking on the streets not so close to the village.


>You just refuted your own point by admitting to my counter-point's validity. You weren't kidding when you said you weren't prepared for discussion.

In depth discussion about the holocaust, no. Although why are you skeptical of the people who wrote those blogs and even of me, considering I gained knowledge from Poles themselves and I posted like 7 reasons (copy paste) about Poland and why it more just than Germany in the past. Yes ooga booga who ever wins the war writes the rules dude weed lmao but apart from that some win the wars being on a justifiable side, others not, based on a fair metric of reasoning.

>>132980784
The war didn't end in occupied territories just because the official soviet army was pushed back. It was much more than a mere war of two opposing political ideologies. The war was never during the occupation period "settled." It's a very historically inaccurate assumption that the war was settled. Besides those peasants, those people one can rightfully say were their own, the red army on the other hand was it's own under the leadership of the stavka.

>Like it or face punishment, deal with it

Krauts sure faced the punishment they deserved.

>>132962421

Underrated

>>132980826
>Regarding whether or not rules apply or not is dependent of the severity of the war.
Yeah, and our point is in regards to a nation during wartime. Civilian liberties were curbed.
>I find it bullshit that a maniac who was very delusional started a war such that was in the first place.
From your imgur postings, the issue of WW1 guilt was pinned on the Germans because they started the war. I will extend this same logic and state that the British and French declared war on the Germans.
>Also it is sometimes good that there be no war at all
Wishful thinking.
>No teenagers ending up in mental hospitals because they saw their friends being evaporated. No husbands forced to sacrifice their humanity for a cause shrouded in idiocy.
You are misrepresenting me. I am not pro-war. I am a pragmatist who realizes that rules during war, or the inevitability of war is a part of competitive human nature. It is not "good" or "bad", it simply is.
>They sinned greatly against the inhabitants and reaped what they sowed
The "sin" is irrelevant, war is amoral. Yes, they lost. The mighty will always win. Germans lost to Soviets and Americans, Soviets lost to Americans, then Americans lost to Soviets. That's war.
>but apart from that some win the wars being on a justifiable side, others not, based on a fair metric of reasoning.
>>132967383
This is an unbiased and fair position? Don't kid yourself, you are here to bait replies, not for honest discussion. Half your posts have been pushing beliefs onto me which I never claimed.
>In depth discussion about the holocaust, no
Here you even admit that you are ill-prepared to even defend your positions.
>>132981052
> It was much more than a mere war of two opposing political ideologies.
Read Mein Kampf. NSDAP was fundamentally anti-Marxist.
>The war was never during the occupation period "settled."
This sentence makes no grammatical sense. Not because I'm trying to have a "gotcha" moment, I honestly don't know what you are saying.

>>132981052
>Krauts sure faced the punishment they deserved.
Just as the Jews and others faced punishment for violating the rules of the conquered. I am not opposed to this argument when it is extended to the Germans, or anybody else. The mighty win, that's war. It is amoral and has no rules, deal with it. Germans learned this, Soviets learned this: everybody will learn it. Keep on trying to push this "dude you're a nazi lmao haha" strawman, though, I'm sure that will substantiate your claims about the Holocaust.

>>132962202
not a popular opinion on this board, but I whole heartedly agree. germans will be germans, hebrews will be hebrews

>>132962836
>The Treaty of Versailles was retarded, I'm gonna go take my land back.
>k
>Austria is filled with Germans and is German land I'm taking it.
>k
>Sudentland is filled with Germans and is German land I'm taking it.
>k
>Czechslovakia sucks and their president has decided to let me do what I want so I'm breaking the country into 2 states on ethnic grounds.
>k
>Lithuania invaded this German land you stole from us so I'm taking this as well.
>k
>Like every other piece of land, this is German and wants to join me, it was taken by your treaty I don't like, so I'm taking it.
>fukin wot m8

Really took their time choosing their hill to die on. I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that Poland wanted war with Germany since the early 30s.
But I'm sure Germany would have just annexed the planet if Poland hadn't given it up peacefully.

>>132958660
What makes you think current documentaries are

> made by the same group of people

And

>Jewed

>>132981256
Oh it's mine still? I wrote those imgur postings? You point any argumentative fallacies I make quickly yet still think it's me who wrote those?

>Wishful thinking.
Called logic.

I'm not only talking about the holocaust. I have a better understanding about Poland, Ukraine and Belarus, how things where there. I also know Jews were massacred. The info about the camps and well known holocaust story I got from those 4 pics, blogs and Aarons arguments in past threads. Like I said with other info I know from people who survived the war it is very believable that the Germans were killing Jews and others en mass in camps.

Yes they were very anti marxist, also anti Polish, anti Ukrainian, etc.

The war didn't settle down like I said as it was a war against the populace. A war of terror and fear.

>>132982033
>Oh it's mine still? I wrote those imgur postings?
I stated the following: From your imgur postings, the issue of WW1 guilt was pinned on the Germans because they started the war
In the context, I am referring to the imgur postings you sourced, not that you were the author of them. Try harder, I am not, nor have claimed that you wrote them.
>Called logic.
In the entire history of humanity, every empire has been steeped in war. Wishful thinking.
>The info about the camps and well known holocaust story I got from those 4 pics, blogs and Aarons arguments in past threads. Like I said with other info I know from people who survived the war it is very believable that the Germans were killing Jews and others en mass in camps.
Excellent, then cite the evidence that you use for your conclusion. Namely, point me to literally any physical examination of the deceased to substantiate the death toll. How do you know they are Jews? Poles? Examine the cause of death, why were they killed, when, how many, etc. There were many mass graves left over if over 10 million died, please source some report examining the mass graves.
>Yes they were very anti marxist, also anti Polish, anti Ukrainian, etc.
You'll find yourself agreeing with me more often if you actually listen to what I state.
>The war didn't settle down like I said as it was a war against the populace. A war of terror and fear.
No, it was primarily one war: the Great War. WW2 was a continuation of WW1.

>>132982395
So you enjoy playing a game of semantics huh?

>Excellent, then cite the evidence that you use for your conclusion. Namely, point me to literally any physical examination of the deceased to substantiate the death toll. How do you know they are Jews? Poles? Examine the cause of death, why were they killed, when, how many, etc. There were many mass graves left over if over 10 million died, please source some report examining the mass graves.

I know somebody who witnessed the germans play music, have a ball with jewish women then shortly afraid lead them to a ditch with the rest of the jews and execute them, she said the blood of the jews rosed up through the sand. One time I heard in Treblinka the blood of those jews likewise wetted the sand on top of them, yet in one retarded holocaust denial video that claim was viewed with skepticism. Yet the person to whom I have spoken to had no incentive to lie. And such crude outright barbarism really shows what many germans and nazis thought of them and how they truly did behave like. So I'm so not sorry I don't need a historian to reaffirm the words of a person who lived through the war.

>>132962480
>Hitler was anti slavic

Slavic brigades of the SS would disagree with you you communist freak.

>>132970960
t. dirty schlomo shekelberg

>>132960376
Ah Lyudmila, anyone believing that myth is a top tier retard and I have some cryptocurrency I wanna sell to you.

>>132982994
Stupid fucker. Answer this, why then did the UPA fight against the nazi vermin if they also fought against the reds?

>>132982928
>So you enjoy playing a game of semantics huh?
No, I'm explaining the context. It's called clarification. You accuse me, I clarify, now you accuse me again, I clarify. I never said you authored it, I said you cited it.
>I know somebody who witnessed the germans play music, have a ball with jewish women then shortly afraid lead them to a ditch with the rest of the jews and execute them, she said the blood of the jews rosed up through the sand
Anecdotes aren't reports examining the mass graves.
>So I'm so not sorry I don't need a historian to reaffirm the words of a person who lived through the war.
Great investigative work, one person tells you emotional things and that's it.

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>>132983188
>Partisan Paramilitary was fighting against both sides!!!! xD that makes every bullshit comment I say true

Completely unrelated argument. Has nothing to do with my point whatsoever.

Examine yourself you low IQ commie.

>>132983157
You seem upset.

>>132983157
When you have hundreds of thousands of people saying a very similar anecdote then that anecdote is valid evidence. There was so much violence practically everywhere, why would the Germans massacre Slavs and jews in villages and cities but feed the Jews in some special camps and even kill off the lice in their clothes? Really don't be a naive solely emotion fueled ignoramus, apply occam's razor here. Truth hurts.

>>132983375
It's ironic you say I'm low IQ when you've implied that Hitler wasn't anti Slavic. You're another cowardly weak shitter who's afraid of coming to grasps with reality.

>>132958660
>I know there is the greatest story never told, but as great as it is its more of a slideshow compared to the high budget stuff that History used to do

Also the Greatest Story never told is literally a bunch of revisionist lies.

Big ups to you for falling for things that have been debunked over and over again already.

You lack even the slightest bit of critical thinking ability. You did lack it when you were a child watching "Jewish" WW2 Documentaries and you seem to still lack it today.

The difference? Only the former would withstand actual examination based on facts.

God you stupid fucking moron

>>132983896
Hey again dumb fuck. If Hitler was anti slavic, why did he have several allied nations that were populated by ethnic slavs? Why did the SS allow entry by slavic peoples? Why didn't he oppress slavic nations that were annexed by him?

You're a fucking idiot who believes unsourced bullshit. The Latvian SS brigade was the last to officially surrender. They fought down to the wire for an ideology that hated their race? I don't think so.

Stupid fucking american thinks he knows european history. LOL

>>132984141
>Why didn't he oppress slavic nations that were annexed by him?

LOL

>You're a fucking idiot who believes unsourced bullshit.
>sources motherfucker sources anecdotal evidence be it of thousands and thousands of people is bullshit motherfucker

Go kill yourself you sack of shit.

>>132975983
That was good

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>>132984361
Nice argument you got there. You sound mad bro. Take a chill pill.

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Speech of the Reichsführer-SS at the SS Group Leader Meeting in Posen (Poznan) 4- October-1943
Brig. Fegelein and the Russian general

Heart in the wrong place…..

For the SS Man, one principle must apply absolutely: we must be honest, decent, loyal, and comradely to members of our own blood, and to no one else. What happens to the Russians, the Czechs, is totally indifferent to me. Whatever is available to us in good blood of our type, we will take for ourselves, that is, we will steal their children and bring them up with us, if necessary. Whether other races live well or die of hunger is only of interest to me insofar as we need them as slaves for our culture; otherwise that doesn't interest me. Whether 10,000 Russian women fall down from exhaustion in building a tank ditch is of interest to me only insofar as the tank ditches are finished for Germany.

>>132984548
We will never be hard and heartless when it is not necessary; that is clear. We Germans, the only ones in the world with a decent attitude towards animals, will also adopt a decent attitude with regards to these human animals; but it is a sin against our own blood to worry about them and give them ideals, so that our sons and grandchildren will have a harder time with them. When somebody comes to me and says, "I can't build tank ditches with children or women. That's inhumane, they'll die doing it." Then I must say: "You are a murderer of your own blood, since, if the tank ditches are not built, then German soldiers will die, and they are the sons of German mothers. That is our blood." That is how I would like to indoctrinate this SS, and, I believe, have indoctrinated, as one of the holiest laws of the future: our concern, our duty, is to our people, and to our blood. That is what we must care for and think about, work for and fight for, and nothing else. Everything else can be indifferent to us. I wish the SS to face the problem of all foreign, non-Germanic peoples, particularly the Russians, with this attitude. Everything else is moonshine, a fraud against our own people, and an obstacle to earlier victory in the war.

>>132984496
Want to know a cool fact? Hitler consider the Croats as honorary Aryans.... let that sink in real good into your head you white nigger.

>>132984104
Your post is like the Holocaust, a claim without evidence.
You give as much reason for OP to believe you as you claim TGSNT does.

The SS after the war
This Order will then march into the future, young and strong, revolutionary and effective, to fulfil its task of providing the Germanic people with a superior stock capable of binding this Germanic people and this Europe together and holding them together, producing the intellects that required by the people, in economics, farming, politics, and as soldiers, statesmen, and technicians. In addition, this superior stock must be so strong, so filled with life, that each generation will be capable, without question, of sacrificing two or three sons from each family on the battlefield, yet nevertheless ensure the passing on of the bloodline.

Himmler supposedly wrote this on 22.4. 1942, sourced as BA (Bundesarchiv): R22/851, 1ff., Himmler an Schlegelberger

As Reichsführer-SS and Chief of the German Police, however, I am responsible to see that such deeds find their just penalty. The community of the people demands the destruction of such parasites, regardless of whether, according to juristic considerations, a subjective guilt exists or not. I cannot accept that a Polish sub-human escapes their punishment through some legal.

From Speech of the Reichsführer-SS at the SS Group Leader Meeting in Posen (Poznan) 4- October-1943

We have only one task, to stand firm and carry on the racial struggle without mercy. I will now say again something which I have already today said to the men elsewhere: we will never let that excellent weapon, the dread and terrible reputation which preceded us in the battles for Kharkow fade, but will constantly add new meaning to it. They can call us what they like in the world, the main thing is that we are the eternally loyal, obedient, steadfast and unconquerable fighting men of the Germanic people and of theFuehrer, the SS of the Germanic Reich. (Heinrich Himmler from Kharkow speech in April of 1943)

These clashes are the only evolutionary possibility which will enable us one day, now that Fate has given us the Fuehrer Adolf Hitler, to create the Germanic Reich. Heinrich Himmler

General Erich Hoepner of the Panzer Group 4 stated:

The war against Russia is an important chapter in the German nation's struggle for existence. It is the old battle of the Germanic against the Slavic people, of the defense of European culture against Muscovite-Asiatic inundation and of the repulse of Jewish Bolshevism. The objective of this battle must be the demolition of present-day Russia and must therefore be conducted with unprecedented severity. Every military action must be guided in planning and execution by an iron resolution to exterminate the enemy remorselessly and totally. In particular, no adherents of the contemporary Russian Bolshevik system are to be spared.

Heinrich Himmler in a speech to the Eastern Front Battle Group "Nord" declared:
It is a war of ideologies and struggle races. On one side stands National Socialism: ideology, founded on the values of our Germanic, Nordic blood. It is worth the world as we want to see: beautiful, orderly, fair, socially, a world that may be, still suffers some flaws, but overall a happy, beautiful world filled with culture, which is precisely Germany. On the other side stands the 180 millionth people, a mixture of races and peoples, whose names are unpronounceable, and whose physical nature is such that the only thing that they can do - is to shoot without pity or mercy. These animals, which are subjected to torture and ill-treatment of each prisoner from our side, which do not have medical care they captured our wounded, as do the decent men, you will see them for yourself. These people have joined a Jewish religion, one ideology, called Bolshevism, with the task of: having now Russian, half [located] in Asia, parts of Europe, crush Germany and the world. When you, my friends, are fighting in the East, you keep that same fight against the same subhumans, against the same inferior races that once appeared under the name of Huns, and later - 1,000 years ago during the time of King Henry and Otto I, - the name of the Hungarians, and later under the name of Tatars, and then they came again under the name of Genghis Khan and the Mongols. Today they are called Russian under the political banner of Bolshevism.

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D. 17 October 1941, Hitler Monologue, Führer Headquarters, in Madajczyk, Generalny, pp. 69-70.
“The [eastern] region must lose the character of the Asiatic steppe, it must be Europeanized! It is for this purpose that we are building great highways to the southern tip of the Crime and to the Caucasus. German cities established along these roadways will stretch like a string of pearls, and around these will be German settlements. The two or three million people we need [for this program] can be found quicker than we think. We will take them from Germany, the Scandinavian lands, Western Europe, and America. Chances are that I will not live to see this, but in twenty years twenty million people will inhabit this territory. In three hundred years we will have a blossoming parkland of extraordinary beauty!
As for the people indigenous to the area, we will be sure to select those [of importance]. We will remove the destructive Jews entirely. … We will not enter Russian cities, they must die out completely.
There is only one task: Germanization through the introduction of Germans [to the area] and to treat the original inhabitants like Indians. … I intend to stay this course with ice-cold determination. I feel myself to be the executor of the will of History. What people think of me at present is all of no consequence. Never have I heard a German who has bread to eat express concern that the ground where the grain was grown had to be conquered by the sword. We eat Canadian wheat and never think of the Indians.”

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C. 9 June 1942, Heinrich Himmler: Geheimreden 1933 bis 1945 und andere Ansprachen. Edited by B.F. Smith and A.F. Peterson (Frankfurt/Main: Propyläen Verlag, 1974), pp. 145-161.

“This war makes no sense if afterwards … Bohemia and Moravia, the German eastern districts of southeast Prussia, Danzig-West Prussia, the Warthegau, Upper Silesia, the General Government, the Ostland (inc. the Baltic States and Belorussia), the Crimea, and Ingermanland aren’t completely settled with Germans within twenty years.

This is the task that we have set out to accomplish, for as long as we still live, once peace is established … the land is Germanized when the populace is German.”

D. March 1928, Hitler Speech in Hamburg, Prange, Hitler’s Words, pp. 26-27.

“Twice in history our people has drawn the sword to advantage. The first time, when our people colonized the south and east marches with German peasants, and second, when they, here in the north, east of the Elbe, gained the territory which has been the most precious treasure of our people. If we had not promoted these great colonies and shed the blood which gained them, what would be the situation today? This colonization returned a high rate of interest. The sword of those days has become the plow of today, and even today this plow assures a great part of our people its daily bread. If ever in the future of Germany the sword must be drawn … then it must be drawn in the service of the plow – so that some day the time will come when the sword will again become the plow.”

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E. 16 July 1941, Hitler Comments, Conference in Führer Headquarters, in Czesław Madajczyk, ed., Generalny Plan Wschodni: Zbiór dokumentów (Warszawa: Glówna Komisja Badania Zbrodni Hitlerowskich w Polsce, 1990), pp. 61-64.

On Hitler’s aims in the conquered east: “The Crimea must be cleared of all [racially] foreign peoples, as must the parts of Galicia which formerly belonged to the Austrian Empire. …We must make a Garden of Eden out of the newly won eastern territories; this is important for our future existence; [overseas] colonies play a subordinate role. … All of the Baltic lands must be annexed to the Reich. Similarly, the Crimea, with a significant adjoining region (the region north of the Crimea) must become Reich territory. The annexed territory must be as large as possible. … The Reich must also annex the Volga Colony and the area around Baku.”

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Küchler was an active supporter of the planned war of annihilation (Vernichtungskrieg(de)) against the Soviet Union. After meeting Hitler in March 1941 to plan forOperation Barbarossa, Küchler told his divisional commanders on 25 April 1941:
"We are separated from Russia, ideologically and racially, by a deep abyss. Russia is, if only by the mass of her territory, an Asian state...TheFührerdoes not wish to palm off responsibility for Germany's existence on to a later generation; he has decided to force the dispute with Russia before the year is out. If Germany wishes to live in peace for generations, safe from a threatening danger in the East, this cannot be a case of pushing Russia back a little-or even hundreds of kilometers-but the aim must be to annihilate European Russia, to dissolve the Russian state in Europe".
Förster, Jürgen (2004). "The German Military’s Image of Russia". In Erickson, Ljubica; Erickson, Mark.Russia War, Peace and Diplomacy. London: Weidenfeld & Nicolson.

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>>132958660
reminder that Jews = Jesuits

For weeks I have been posting this. Yet never successfuly have the quotes been refuted. Just wishful assumptions of stormniggers that they're false because they *think* so.

>>132984612
"Want to know a cool fact? Hitler consider the Croats as honorary Aryans.... let that sink in real good into your head you white nigger."
Yet you claim here: >>132980826
"Yes ooga booga who ever wins the war writes the rules dude weed lmao but apart from that some win the wars being on a justifiable side, others not, based on a fair metric of reasoning."
What unbiased critical thinking.

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>>132984962
This. Also speaking of anecdotal evidence it's not really anecdotal evidence is it if a whole nation of people saw the war and how brutal it was. Real anecdotal evidence is an account of somehow from a narrow perspective so to speak yes? Then the thousands upon thousands of people who survived the war (and witnessed the same thing basically) and their accounts of nazi atrocities likewise aren't bad or somehow false.

>>132958953
Nice rare

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>>132966337
I'm a US Army veteran and i love Murdoch Murdoch. Go fuck yourself.

Also, fuck the Jews.

>>132985871
Hitler calling the Croats honorary Aryans isn't somehow based on fair and honest logic though. Plus it's its own thing really. Showing how delusional the natsees where. Also what is confusing? Hitler's reasoning for chimping out were fabricated lies.

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>>132984962
You are responding to yourself. Literally 15 minutes after, you are responding to a post you have made yourself, as if you are another poster agreeing with yourself.
>>132986101
No, I'm attacking your flawed argument for being hypocritical, not arguing for whatever Hitler said.

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>>132984962
dead bodies does not equal holocaust millions died from typhus I prove all of this in my book

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>>132985897
You mean people like this? The Anne Frank Diary is fake proven conclusively