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Why don't goy- I mean white guys breed anymore?

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Why don't goy- I mean white guys breed anymore?
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>>132774313
I think it's just the social climate. Nothing wrong with having kids late in life.

Women fuck around on the cock carousel until they turn 30 (ie. they start seeing the first few wrinkles, and chad isn't so interested any more). In the mean time, a lot of men (like 50% of them) ages 18-28 just have nothing to do all day, so they turn to video games to entertain themselves
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now I gotta get nagged by broads I don't even know and they wonder why I don't wanna put up with their shit
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From what I'v seen most men want a child, it's the woman who gets cold feet and runs, but then ends up pregnant from some guy she met at a bar for one night.
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>>132774313

You go Low


https://youtu.be/HEJO8t_wCUQ


We go high
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>>132774313
You know you don't need man to have kids anymore, right? Just hit sperm bank. Men are outdated.
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>>132774313
If 3D starts trying to live up to 2D standards they might have a chance.
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>>132774313
Beats me, I'm a man child and i have 2 kids. My baby mama is Latina though so I'm not really helping the white race much.
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>>132775263
How can they compete?
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>>132774313
>tfw too smart to reproduce
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Tfw ineligible
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>>132774313
Why don't black people stop killing each other all the time?
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>>132775352
Spoiler alert: they cant
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>>132774313

Blame men for the shit economy that kikes built.
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>>132774313

>Make women have 100% birth rights while men have almost 100% the responsibility of said birth rights.

>Push the idea of "No-Fault" Divorce.

>Push the idea of Toxic Masculinity and all of a woman's problems on patriarchy.

>Keep alimony payments >90% paid by men.

>Abuse child support.

>Spoil/abuse children in increasing single-motherhood households.

>Exalt single-motherhood to the point some even argue single-motherhood > two-parent households.

>Women have October, Women's Day, and Mother's day; but whenever Father's Day and November is celebrated, feminists come out of the woodwork to "remind" people of men being garbage and put the spotlight on women.

>Increase immigration from other lesser civilized countries so they can fuck men from those countries; get mad as fuck when men try to do the same with Asian women to the point women try to pass laws to limit Asian immigration and -MAF relationships.

>Get offended and start mobs when men have certain expectations for women in relationships, yet don't see any problems when women expect Ivy-League expectations from men (>6'0", fit, well-paying job, non-questioning, etc.).

>Men try to have a logical dialectic with women, women silence discussion by using the famous ad hominem "Mansplaining".

>Men can never understand what being a woman is like and should never question/judge, yet all women can understand what being a man is like.

>Men are increasingly not wanting to deal with this bullshit.

Somehow women are surprised by this and don't' understand why - so they blame "childish men".
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>>132775878
Is this pasta or are you really this booty blasted
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>>132775963
N'est pas un argument
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>>132775963

Not pasta. I still believe in the importance in marriage and plan to have family in the future while understanding you have to be really careful in picking the right wife. However, I hate seeing hypocrisy and current recent generations of women making things worse yet blaming it on men.
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>>132776211
He's Italian not French idiot.
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Because white women want to ride cocks until they're old and used up, and then have kids in their 30s. Meanwhile Latinas want to have at least two kids before they reach 25.
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>>132776595

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treachery_of_Images

Fucking pleb, Jesus Christ.
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Is playing videogames deep into your 20's really "a thing" in America? I'm 24 and so far me and almost all of my highschool/army pals outgrew videogames.
Are grown-ass men playing digital toys really a 'normal' thing in the USA?
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>>132776602
Latinas look like bags of beans at 35

Go for asians
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>>132774603

How many guys are willing to propose to their high school girlfriend?
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>>132775878
So much this.
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>>132774932
This follows with "Man up, and raise somebody else's kid."
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I have anime so I don't need nigger loving 40yo hags to blacken my life.
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>>132777845
Mana transfer doesn't work between man and loli
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>>132775963
>>132775878

Ever wonder if this is what the media/system/elites wants you to think about. Why do so many men worry about this? I wonder if the same pharmaceutical that produces the bluepill produces the redpill for mass consumption.
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I've got a decent amount of health issues and so does my wife. We just aren't having kids because of that.
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Feminism
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TFW you are an beautiful non-degen woman but all men are betas b/c of hormones in the milk
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>>132774603
Having kids when you're older makes them more likely to be autistic so no

t. autismo with an old dad
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Well at least in regards to /pol/, they are more interested in acting like cucks by worshiping at the feet of trump than chasing women and having families. "Libtards" like me have already procreated.
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>>132778170
It's to give us the illusion of choice and free will

The ultimate black pill is realising free will is a lie and you can only at best train your body/brain with the right chemicals (food, sport)
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>>132776796
no one cares, jew
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>>132778077
Mana transfer?
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>>132776832
Horrible meme. They age like everyone else. It depends on their diet.
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>>132776796

People in the US have all kinds of hobbies--it's one of the perks of not living in a 3rd world country.
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>Blames someone else for they gold digging and dick riding attitudes.
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>>132778556
>>>132778077
>Mana transfer?
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>>132774603
>Women fuck around on the cock carousel until they turn 30 (ie. they start seeing the first few wrinkles, and chad isn't so interested any more). In the mean time, a lot of men (like 50% of them) ages 18-28 just have nothing to do all day, so they turn to video games to entertain themselves

not going to lie, the subredidt "theredpill" really opened my eyes to this reality and how to deal with it. For any other young pol anons, I highly recomend spending your time there. The most important idea that has stuck with me, and perhaps forever will stick with me, is fuck expectations. The best method of living out to your life is to be content with yourself. Nothing external to you is of value. Happiness comes from holding yourself to high standards for the sake your own desires. The sooner you start giving a fuck less about others the faster you start to appreciate the things that matter. Family, friends, and good wifey material. Once you start taking care of yourself with this attitude and sort yourself out, life will fall into place.
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>>132775963
Guy's right, and you're either a troll or an idiot.
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>2007
>"On why masculinity is toxic and men need to stop catcalling women and making them feel uncomfortable with unsolicited flirting"
>2017
>"On 30+ women who are freezing their eggs and can't find a good man to settle down with and why childish, introverted men are to blame."
>2027
>" On men in their 30's and 40's who are starting relationships with and even marrying 'women' aged 20-25 and why this must be stopped."
>2037
>"On my impending suicide and why society must take care of my 10+ cats"
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>>132774313
>by (((Melanie)))
the vaginal jew strikes again
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>>132779202
That last one actually is a problem. We're going to have hundreds of thousand so stray cats running around once all these harpies start offing themselves.
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>tfw my state passed a law that ensures that you don't have to pay perpetual alimony anymore
my state sucks for alot of reasons, but making sure a cunt can't marry you for being rich for 6 months then divorce and live the rest of her life easy is the best thing this state has done in a long time
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>>132774313
I was in the car with my sister the other day and she had the radio on a country station. A song came on
>"youre never gonna grow up, peter pan."

It should have been called "when are you going to make my money and give me social status"
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>Demonize men for being masculine
>Why aren't you being masculine >:(
Are women actually this fucking dumb or were they trying to clip people's wings
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>>132779056
>Shilling for Reddit on /pol
Kys faggot
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>>132779202
This. If a man is making advances, you tell him to get lost, or a slap if he says something rude. You don't take him to court or get him charged as a sex offender so he's stigmatized for the rest of his life.

This is a byproduct of telling young men not to make passes at women and punishing them severely if they do. It takes enough courage to ask a girl out in the first place.
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>>132779056
give me a J
>J
give me an o
>o
give me an rdan Peterson

what's that spell?

>Jordan Peterson
he's got the same message. Have goals. Have values.
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The modern woman is degenerate, brainwashed by cultural marxism/feminism/liberalism, not to mention way too fat.
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>>132780258

He also recognizes MGTOW as useless men. They still mad.
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>>132774313
>breed those slaves goyim!
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>>132774313
I can't get a girlfriend so I will never breed. Very simple.
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>>132779994
I don't like reddit, especially since the influx of the donald on here, but if there is anything of value to be found on that shithole its that sub. Lots of good shit for younger polacks.
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>>132779972

To weed out the weak men.

>I don't understand why she divorced me? I did everything she wanted.
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>>132780227
Of course you have to keep in mind that the Chads/Jamals/Achmeds of the world never gave a shit about such things and never will. If you're *naturally* handsome/successful/confident/charismatic than anything goes, a woman won't really go after you with the rape charges unless she's batshit insane. But as you said there is a falling off now, young men who might have been encouraged by parents, peers and even their teachers to be more aggressive and alpha are now being denied that learning opportunity. Of course this just narrows the Chad pool down even further, less supply.

It just amazes me that women, especially those college aged, don't realize how badly this pump&dump culture is going to fuck them over in the long run.
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>>132780760
>weed out the week men
>I am much stronger than you, peasant husband. heh
>None of you can compete. There can only be one

Are women the ultimate fedoras?
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>>132781352
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>>132780875

You are just building straw men on top of straw men to justify your effeminate pathetic-ness. I strongly recommend suicide you worthless cuck
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>>132774313

>be stripped of your power through decades of globalism
>still blamed for everything
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>>132774932
Very common.
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>>132777198
A lot of guys who can't get girlfriends due to the current dating climate would. The only white high school guys getting girlfriends are Chads and jocks. There are a few normal white guys who can get girls in HS, but most can't, and won't until college (and even then, they are dating down into high school).
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No man in the entire world wants to have kids. Men want women, and women want kids. It's one of life's many tradeoffs. Can't have a woman unless you have kids, unless it's very short term. But most guys don't have game; they can't get laid regularly with different women, so they find one woman and settle down. Men who have an ease of access with a variety of different women are less likely to settle down, and will almost never voluntarily have children.

To simplify, men want women; women want children.
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>>132780513
He refined that statement in a later interview. Confirmed for not grasping the nuance
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>>132774313
How many times have we had this thread today?
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>>132781659

>projection: the post
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>>132781823
Only alphas care about score. 80% of men are fine with a woman so long as she's not fat and not crazy. And most men do want kids. The ones that don't are man children who care more about hookups than actually building a relationship.
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>>132781352

>Ask men not to be men.
>rise in BDSM interest
>dumb bitches joining ISIS or converting to Islam

>>132780875
this guy is right about minorities not giving a fuck. Mexicans will tease/bully the weak and double down if he cries. They also have no problems dating younger girls, which leads to the statutory rape rates. Blacks are muh dick and the strongest becomes the alpha of the pack. Arabs keep their women in check. Meanwhile most whites are being told to respect women and treat them right.

Its like fighting in school. Most people are scared of the authority (parents, school, police) than about beating up some annoying bully.
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>>132774313
Women putting off having kids has been around since the 70s when they wanted careers.
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>>132774313
>it's men's fault it takes most women 30 years to realize they aren't a 10 and lower their standards
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>>132782136
>when your daddy issues are so intense you join ISIS
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>>132774313
>women no longer want to settle down
>men are to blame
what?
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>>132782048
You're not wrong that I'm projecting, but it is a projection of reality. Most men will not have access to women until they turn 19, as a high school male whose not a chad or jock has nothing to offer a girl, as 15-18 year old men can't get summer jobs, and normal guys in HS won't be built enough to be a faux alpha. By lacking status or money, you won't get dates.
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>>132777198
How many guys have the money and time to propose to their high school girlfriend?

Plus people who marry that young are WAY more likely to divorce, not sure why you'd want to promote that.
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>>132782626
nah. confidence and having goals. plus taking care of yourself. bam, girls rather consistently will show interest.
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>>132775963
>guy literally gives an honest, complete answer to your question
>"WHY U SO TRIGGERED MATE?!"
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>>132779056
>>132780622

That and NoFap are the only somewhat good places on Reddit
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Being a man nowadays is incredibly hard in my opinion due to shifts in social trend and accepted attitudes throughout the ever changing decades, people aren't sure how to act or feel meaning they are missing out on social cues and adequate advice and support from parents in some situations
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>>132781945

He is all about responsibility while MGTOW avoids it. They might agree on things (the courts), but their views will always be conflicting. Best argument is "the maiden becomes a whore while you were slaying dragons", but you can always marry the maiden of the next guy that went off to slay the dragon. 5 year age gap seems to work.

What he doesnt want to outright state is that if your wife leaves you, part of it was your fault. This is a guy who says you have to train your partner in order for relationships to works.

>>132774313
these bitches should try to date divorced 40somethings because "all the good men" will aim for younger women.
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>>132780622
I'll just stick to Porn and fapping. I'm 18, don't stand a chance in the current sexual market so I don't play the game.
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>>132775428

>Due to ridiculously high standards

Why does the news always twist headlines?
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I can't wait till all the millennial women hit 35 and lose their minds. Remember gents: give the used up whores no quarter.
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>>132782751

but /pol/ showed me a graph that said divorce rates increase with the number of sexual partners?! Its a coin flip either way. At least you will have 2-3 kids early and you will do your part for the white genocide.
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>>132783338

Don't watch degenarate porn, you'll become more isolated and can eventually get E.D. Take control of your urges and you'll feel way better and have more energy.
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>>132774313
>severe emotional stunting in men can't be confronted unless we discuss how it affects women
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>>132782172
Yes, but the hypergamy wasn't as strong. They rode the cock carousel till at latest 22, then settled with a guy, where they then started having kids around 25-27. Since around 2008, this has been delayed a decade, where most women ride the cock carousel till they are 30, and start having kids around 35-40.
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>>132775878

Well said.
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>>132775878
>know damn well women need men to tell them to stop their shit
>act like pussies let them walk over you and let them do what they want
>they accomplish all of that with the willing support of Schlomo Shekelburg, his 15 media outlets, 6 banks and 561 pet politicians
>blame them for your own failures

Yes, men have become childish and pathetic, although not for the reason women/kikes blame them for.
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>>132774313
Why are women incapable of self-reflection or self-criticism?

I find it absolutely bizarre.
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>>132775268
Are you married at least?
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>>132774313
let those whores sort themselves out first, meanwhile I can wait until my 30s to enjoy some fresh pussycats
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>>132779200
that's a woman
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>>132783240
Nah you just need to be alpha like 10 years ago or 1000 years ago
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>>132774313

Im wealthy, play games, bang gold diggers, train. All of my time is for me and nobody can betray me, take my money, my time, or even demand an apology.

Its perfect.
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>>132784203
You need abstract thought and introspection for that.
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>>132782962
you are a special kind of retarded if you think that is all
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>>132778317
t. landwhale
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>>132783827
That's what's so great about it. Young women will be a thing literally forever, and older male/younger female is, as we all know, the purest form of love.

Women's reproductive parts decay over time, but cum has a fantastic shelf life.
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>>132783932
I'm trying, I get that urge come at me like a freight train after a week of NoFap and I end up giving in. I try to avoid watching Porn as much as possible and don't watch extremely degenerate porn like cuckoldry etc.
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>>132782751
The divorce rate is higher because people are helplessly immature and incapable of changing themselves when circumstance calls for it. If you aren't an asshat you can make adjustments. Problem is that that situation requires both parties not be fuck tarded, but least as a male you can mind rape the girl into agreeing with what they should. Took about a year of conditioning, but worked for me back in highschool, and we are still together 10 years later. Once you realize that they are better off being steered toward a lifestyle that makes them happy, it all becomes easy. Now I have a stay at home wife whom has a masters in elementary education and can properly teach my children not to be mongoloids.
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For millions of years men have been the provider for families and women had kids just fine
Now with more women being breadwinners, suddenly it's impossible to have kids when only one parent is working? Hm.
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>>132784844
Yeah NoFap is fucking hard. I'm on a 2 month streak but I've been trying NoFap for a year and a half almost. Just limit PMO as much as possible, don't binge and ease it out of your life. You can get there.
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Niggas you're supposed to cut porn

Fapping is okay without porn
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>>132785221
What is PMO? Also, I don't see how you guys can do nofap on 4chan of all places. There's literally porn on every nook and cranny of this website. My dick gets hard on the way to work, I sure as hell can't keep my dick soft hanging around here.
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I live with my lovely white girlfriend who is perfect and could see myself having children with, but I still dream about Asian pussy daily.

Asian girls are so like kryptonite to a whiteboi
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>>132784799
I am 32 and I can tell you there is no point in dating a woman over 30 unless you're over 50. Women's standards peak at 30 but degrade rapidly at 35 and by then they're barren. I've had better luck with and am currently dating a younger women as of now, as men we are lucky in that way.
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>>132785221
It's so tough because the urges are strong. I'm on Day 2 so wish me luck.
>>132785452
This, not sure what PMO is. And yes, 4chan is literally a cesspit of pornography and degeneracy.
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>>132774313
>why are white women having problem X?
>It's because white men are doing something wrong

>why are white men having problem X?
>because they are pathetic and have never done anything correctly in the history of the world
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>>132780513
He later said he regretted those words, and didn't stand by them.
Also why would they be mad about being useless? Their core belief is starving this gynocentric system.
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>>132774313
Because women fuck your life.
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>>132784203
Because fee fees and I'm not even kidding. They don't want to think about themselves bad because this will cause them to feel bad, so they won't do it. It's the men who indulge in logic thought most of the time.
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>>132785452
>>132785988
PMO is Porn Masturbation Orgasm. Yeah of course I'll see an occasion porn pic on /pol/ but I don't fap. Usually its something so gross that I'm turned off and just hide the pic.

I wish there was a NoPorn option on /pol/ but it won't happen.
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>>132786177
That's utter nonsense. I see extremely good looking girls go out and/or have sex with Men who don't fit those standards at all. Also, post proof that he said he "regretted" choosing those words.
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>>132774313
>by melanie notkin

Female, what a surprise
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>>132786648
Oh okay thanks for clearing that up mate. A NoPorn option would be grand on a place like this. A pity we won't ever get one.
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>>132774603
>Nothing wrong with having kids late in life
Not if you want healthy, intelligent kids
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>>132776796
yeah it is, I understand having nostalgia for games from your youth and playing the odd game, but being past 22 playing vidya hours a day is pathetic, real life is so much more stimulating
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>>132786509
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/06/amy_schumer_offers_you_a_look.html

>That women can't talk as openly about sex is really a subset of a larger difference, which is that while both are allowed to do anything they want, only a man can identify with it. Women must distance themselves from it, more or less depending on situation. When a man has sex it is a reflection of who he is; for women it has to be something that happened.

>Say you're lucky enough to have the most wonderful of all experiences, the menage a trois. Right on. "Umm, dude, I've had threesomes and they're not that great. They're actually pretty awkward." Um, dude, you're not doing them right, they have to be sisters. So afterwards the guy will tell... everybody. And for the rest of his life. Any future girlfriend will hear about it within the first month of dating: Things That Make Me Cool. The woman may tell her friends, but she's not going to tell guy friends, and certainly not bring it up to potential boyfriends, and it sure as hell never reflects on her character. "It happened, but it's not who I am."

>...Yet despite being the majority, it's the man's story to own and the woman's to disavow.

>... "I don't know, it just kind of happened." The only time you'll hear a guy says those words is if you're his girlfriend and he just cheated or you're the police and he's holding a head, and that's not a joke but a description of the motivator: shame.

>But the point isn't simply that women do it but disavow it. I just told you a fact which, as a man, you must disavow yourself in order to continue dating. In order to see the world as ordered, you have to pretend that very few women as compared to men have had threesomes.
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>25yo khv
>slowly approaching the age when people are typically settling down and getting married
>I haven't even held hands with a girl
>last time I talked to a girl was in junior high, and even then just because I had to
>tfw no gf and soon it will be too late for gf

I don't have very high standards, I'm not asking for anything I can't offer; My optimal partner is my age, in-shape, average looking, and also a khv. I can only wish some qt nerd grill will find my asperger's attractive or else I'm fucked, and not in the literal physical way.
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>>132786862

its a video. they ask him about regrets of things he has said.
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>>132774313
"childish men" aren't the problem.
Merely the symptom of a much larger problem.k
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>>132787319
Post the link then.
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>Females give up role as females to LARP as men
>Still have an easier time of it because lingering role benefits
>Men cant find a half decent woman and pursue solitary pursuits
>Women: REEEEEEEEEEE
Yah nah cunt, the ratio of toxic shitshows to decent relationships I've seen is 10:1. When I find a woman who wants to be a woman we'll talk
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>>132787425
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AGMeEGW6KQ
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>>132787566
Alright, cheers.
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>>132774313
because fuck you dont touch my anime
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>>132775428
>women freezing their eggs because they are unable to find an "eligible" man at the current moment
>a task which becomes exponentially more difficult several years down the line and shes even older and more desperate
Whats the point lmao
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>>132787305
>my age, in-shape, average looking, and also a khv.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHHHHHHHHHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>qt nerd grill
AHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHA
You're finished buddy. Semi decent looking girls have long been fucked by that age also they will always compare their bf to the most attractive dude they fucked (which they ofc can't lock down) perpetually looking down on you
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>>132787719

artificial wombs will need eggs anyway. Women can't stop blowing themselves out.
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I'm hoping to die before my gf gets pregnant.

Modern feminism turns women into fat, blue-haired "empowered" cunts and they wonder why men don't want to fuck them.
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>>132779056

The RSD crew helped me out a lot, but the "red pill" crowd sometimes is a bit much for me. They make a lot of good points, but every now and then they go completely off the rails, like this one time they said that going down on a girl is "beta." Um ok, I think hooking up with girls is alpha and autistically blabbering on is beta but just my thoughts
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>>132782962
You're legit retarded if you think you'll get a 6 or above with 'confidence and having goals'.
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>>132779202
They will raise age of consent to 30
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>>132774313
For a dozen reasons.
as of 9-1-16, you only have a 6.6% chance of your marriage lasting 10 years or more.
http://www.statisticbrain.com/marriage-statistics/
>source CDC
Now, when you get divorced (and she will divorce your) you will lose custody of your children. You will lose your house. You will lose most of everything you worked for, for the past decade. Good chance you'll have false charges of DV and child abuse levied against you. And the courts will take her side, separate you from your children except for supervised visits. Investigated and interrogated from top to bottom. And when it's actually proven that she was lying about all the accusations? She faces no repercussions. After a few years of your children bein alienated from you, told lies of what a POS you are. Living in a single room hovel and struggling just to survive. You end up with self inflicted lead poisoning to the head.
This is a story that plays out DAILY in the western world.
pump and dump, that's all theyre good for any more.
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>>132774313
Because we have these laws where women get to decide who they have sex with. Weird as shit, I know.
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>>132774313
>written by a roastie
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>>132775149
but then you miss out on child support
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>>132786050
I say we crash this plane senpai.

But 2bh, even though I'm usually emotionally detached, it kind of bugs me that we're being kicked from all sides, even amongst our own.
Then again, I couldn't care less if the world ended tomorrow, meh.
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>>132774313
>your family probably thinks you're gay because you've never had a gf
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>>132778317

When you are an attractive, kind and loving male who is great father material... and you already picked a wife years ago and have genetically excellent progeny because poor partners are alone for a long time whilst good partners are single for very short spaces of time and these useless women don't even deserve a sperm donation.
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>>132786862
I ain't linking shit you lazy faggot, google it.
Also 0 fucks given about what you see, I've got enough experiences with the subject at hand to completely discard your delusions.
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>>132776796
You must use play as a development tool a lot less in a war torn raghole with people trying to kill you for being a reptile from the age of 2 minutes old.
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1. Half your Pension = Gone.
2. Half your 401k = Gone.
3. Half your Social Security (if it's still around) = Gone.
4. Pay Child Support. And if you don't they can take away your passport, even your license, also put you in jail.
5. Pay Alimony.
6. Lose your House.
7. Lose the good/newer Car.
8. All the home improvements don't mean shit. New Kitchen, Tile, Carpet, Remodels, etc.
9. Pay your legal fees.
10. If you run the old school game, aka stay at home mom, pay her legal fees also.

Average divorce cost 50k, your divorce case can last for years in court, you can be forced to sell everything to pay legal fees, maybe even fake Domestic if your wife is a total cunt.

You can be living in a tent, your truck, refrigerator box behind a building.

Have to move back in with your parents if they are still alive, your siblings if they will take you, a buddy's sofa if he doesn't have a family of his own. Most likely a studio apartment or even a 1 bedroom apartment with college aged roommates.

And perhaps the biggest insult of them all is the no fault divorce laws. So if your wife is having an affair with the Crossfit Trainer, random guy at her office job, it doesn't matter she still gets half of your shit. Plus she might even move said guy into your house. All of the years you struggled to make it some Chad can come in out of nowhere and get to enjoy your IT/Engineer bucks. The fruits of your labor all gone.

Some guy living in your house, fucking your wife, raising your kids, watching your tv, playing your xbox, cooking on your grill, swimming in your pool, getting beer from your fridge.

But understand me fellas when I tell you this. Do not go MGTOW. If you don't have a good woman in your life you will be fucking miserable especially as you get into your 30s/40s.

Don't give up on women just play it smart. Don't get Married, get a Vasectomy asap, and research Common Law marriage in your state so you don't get fucked that way.
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>>132790755
You, meaning MGTOW, have an agenda, to turn young people against Women and make them feel worthless and incapable of getting Women so that they sign up and subscribe to your pathetic tribe of misfits. Your movement operates in the same way as any other Jew movement. Divide et impera, divide and conquer. You make people like me feel miserable with your constant demoralization claptrap and I'm sick of it. I see threads about it on here everyday, this "I can't get a gf" and "muh virginity" and "my wife cheated and left me so that means it will happen to you, don't bother with women" nonsense. Enough's enough. Take it somewhere else, I don't want to see it here anymore. I will get married and have children and if you don't want to because of "muh marriage laws" and "women's standards" then so be it. Your choice, but don't force that crap down everybody else's throat.
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Yes goy you must reproduce.
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>>132774313
This is just a repeat of the 70s. The "greatest generation" gave birth to the smallest generation (Gen X) while the tiny Gen X gave birth to the millennials which are a similar size to baby boomer gen. Gen Z is already more conservative than millennials and will do away with the anti-natalist trend.
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>>132791508
>Gen Z is already more conservative than millennials
Why is that?
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>>132786890
actually-> (((Notkin)))
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>Not fucking several women in the prime (20-23).

Are you guys really that beta?
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>>132791630
Values always flip flop once one side becomes too extreme. Millennials are taking identity politics to a comical but dangerous and unnatural conclusion and Gen Z is turned off by it.
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>>132779994
What did he do to deserve that??
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>>132791782
This pussy is still prime at 27, piss off.
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>>132791630
Gen Z has thus proven to be socially liberal but fiscally conservative. I require more evidence that they're socially conservative that aren't shitty polls from 2 high schools or youtube videos.
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>>132791164
this is the most solid post here, on all levels.
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>>132774313
Because pussy isn't worth all the baggage that comes with it anymore.
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>>132776796
Maybe on day you'll become civilized enough to play videogames into your late 40's.
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>>132778440
Wow try and say something more satanic FFS.... Pic related... Have some faith man, pick your chin up

No one listen to this goomba, free will is God's gift to us. This world full of sin is the labyrinth our souls most cross to prove we have value and are not corrupted. Your life will change when you put your faith in something us, wake up and feel blessed because you remember God loves us and you're on the right path
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>>132776602
>Because white women want to ride cocks until they're old and used up, and then have kids in their 30s.
The game changed. With importing non-White and even non-Western White women and the impending (and what look like inevitable) threat of fembots with artificial uterus, the Western White women of the Millennial generation are on the verge of extinction. It only takes a few generations to completely wipe them out. Gen Z Western White women sees this, and some don't want to follow in their predecessors' footsteps (Gen Y/Millennials and even Gen X). Looks like /pol/'s prediction of Millennials dying out forgotten and without progeny will come to pass. In other words, two of the key enablers of (((liberalism))) (betacuck and femslut Millennials) will be unable to continue their flawed genetics and ideology. The Overton window will go from left to right.

Gen Z, with their right-wing predilection, will inherit the Earth. The right (or at least center-right) will rule the planet for at least a century. Maybe more. Globalism, mongrelization, "the Matriarchy", and Jew dominion will never be realized.
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>>132774313
Losers shift blame. Anyone blaming white dudes must be a fucking failure.
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>>132791803
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Fallujah_ambush
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>>132791430
Read my lips: Fuck you.
Most of what you said is 180 from the truth but the more men we save from this fucked up system, the faster the alternatives come (VR, sexbots, AI) and the more the people reponsible as well as those who benefit from it suffer.

Funny how you want young guys trapped and dead inside by age 25 under the pretense of 'muh genocide' while artificial wombs and surrogates are booming in popularity, scumbag.
Keep crying little bitch, Mgtow spreads like wildfire.
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>>132775808
this
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>>132788507
that's fair. I just got into them a week ago so I don't doubt that they can go off the rails. And whats RSD stand for?
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men don't want strong women or smart women to have a family with, these are two things that we don't need you to have. if those are your two defining traits just go away.
men want feminine, caring, loyal, compassionate, home maker, to have a family with, you don't even have to be that good looking just average.
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>>132791164
Can I just say that non-white women actually have a conscience and rarely do this? I'll leave you with that...
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>>132792970
Women get careers to protect themselves from abusive relationships.
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>>132789771
This goy gets it
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>>132792993
>women
>have a conscience
This has got the be the most stupid shit I've read in my life. Congrats.
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>>132789977
>I say we crash this plane senpai.
Were not the ones flying it anymore
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>>132776796
>kikes dislike men enjoying video games into adulthood
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>>132779202
>blame men for literally every one of their problems
>any attempt to show them why they're wrong about something is met with cries of "mansplaining" because they have no argument

This is why women were never taken seriously throughout history until we started listening to liberals.
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>>132783023
Teach the other leafs please
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>>132791164
just marry a woman that earns more than you so that if there's a divorce you win, faggot.
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So many of you are pathetic virgins. Guess what, you're also part of the problem. Women and men right now have issues finding a good mate and feeling happy, and the common enemy isn't one sex or the other, it's the Goldman Sachs led world order and its disgusting Jewish obsession with money and consumerism at all costs. Guess what, new shiny things won't make you happier than a good family, you stupid goy.
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>>132787933
the future is bright
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>>132794004
>just marry a woman that earns more than you

Is this nigga serious
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>>132792756
>Fascist
You disgust me, take that flag off. You aren't even worthy of posting under it you Judas. You probably didn't read what I said and took it on board. Instead, your MGTOW indoctrination kicked in dismissing everything. You're literally the Male version of feminists. Your movement is a disgrace, designed to pit kin against kin because you seem to think every single woman has standards set to the heavens which is so far from the truth. I'm done supporting you "people". You try to drag good decent men to your level and get them to hate their female counterparts. That's divide and conquer, turning Men against Women.

And I won't have it anymore.
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>>132794268
>Jewish obsession with money
and they passed that onto women
girls are now told if they want to be happy in life that they need to go to college and have a good paying job
getting married and having kids is second to having more money
lets just face it the Jews have won.
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>>132794490
>not going full NUUUUUCLEAAAAR
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>>132784589
Not to sound autistic as I'm a normal social person in every way, but these days being alpha means just being able to talk to people and have some abs.
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>>132794268

I don't see women as the enemy. I genuinely believe western society is evil, degenerate and rotten to the core and that western society has changed so much over the decades that it's now anti white male. Sure, top-tier men and some lucky effeminate "men" have it easy, but the rest are struggling and we have nowhere to talk about it.
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>>132774313

Really?....now Jews control your limp dicks?

fucking asswipe
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>>132792756
Remove your flag as you are a disgrace to the proud fascist ideology
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>>132794635
1. You know nothing of fascism.
2. Indoctrination, projection.
3. If you think women's aren't ridiculous, you're on the wrong board.
4. I don't know if you're a woman or are 14 but either way, don't go to sleep upset because of me. Watch some pony cartoons or anime, and ask mommy or the husband you cheat on, to make you coco.
Sweet dreams, princess.
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>>132795170
t.woman with limpdick boy friend
no wonder he's a southerner """""""man""""""
come up here and suck on this northerner cock bby
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>>132791901
The face might be.
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The supposed risks of marriage are seriously overblown. Everyone knows that. Even the people posting these misleading or wrong statistics know that.

I don't understand why the anti-marriage people on here just don't embrace their identity as leftist, hedonist millenials. They would be a lot happier if they did.
I mean, they shirking responsibility, waste time and money on selfish pursuits like "travel" and their "careers" and other memes, get into short term, unnattached relationships if at all...
Their lives are completely indistinguishable from the millions of other nu-males around. Because that's what they are.

I know that being right-wing, conservative, and traditionalist has become trendy in recent years, but you can't call yourself conservative and live a completly unconservative existence. And you can't come up with wierd justifications like "not getting married and being a hedonist is really actually redpilled". You aren't fooling anybody, and I have a hard time believing you are successfully fooling yourself.

All I'm saying is, if you are some young, hedonist partyboy who refuses to get married and wants to live the life sold to you by the media like all your leftist friends, then just own it. Be proud of it. You are another, typical millenial piece of shit and that is okay. Because by coming to /pol/ and trying to convince people that marriage is dead and playing videogames and fucking around is the real traditionalist lifestyle, the dissonance is just going to cause you anxiety.
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Im 23 and girls i grew up with still act like their 16 and attend every shitty music festival possible to take drugs and shit. Thats why i haven't settled down and had a kid yet.
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>>132795007
I don't know how to feel about this. On one hand, the woman is clearly a cunt and intended on playing him like a damn fiddle
On the other he is a lazy cunt and nothing is more pathetic than a "man" who refuses to work.
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>>132796232
I know. I only post it to show how damaged some people have become.
Society is really becoming quite an ugly thing lately.
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>>132795874
>the supposed risks of marrige are seriously overblown
>1 out of every 2 marriages ends in divorce
fuck off woman, no one cares about people not supporting you and your whore lifestyle anymore. maybe if you were decent and not a degenerate people would want to marry you.
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>>132795874
Even today getting married and having kids is what the majority of people are doing.

Stop pretending like it's rebellion when it's literally status quo.
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>>132796232
>nothing is more pathetic than a man who refuses to work
except for a man who works despite knowing that all day his significant other is poisoning their child and wasting all of his hard earned cash before divorcing him to fucking chad and tyrone.
If you fucking cucks wanted women to have rights, you can't cry when men say "fuck this shit why would i work 60 hours a week for a cheating wife and kids that hate me"
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>>132795524
You're a literal waste of skin. Who's paying you to spew lies and dissent, you filthy Kike? Show us your real flag. Fascists don't hate their own kin. They help them. They guide them. They protect them and show them the right path. You're dismissing every single woman on Earth because of the actions of some women who mess about, as an example. You're a disgrace to the Fascist ideology. You indoctrinate the minds of youths against Women. You spread lies and deceit, like a Jew. I see threads on here all of the time about Women and it's always in the same style, constant hatred of Women followed by a barrage of attacks against them. Throw in some demoralization such as "if you're not 6ft, rich and good looking don't bother" etc as well just to sweeten the deal and swell the ranks.
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>>132774313
>it's totally not because of women working,
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>>132778317
white fatso trash
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>>132789044
It's not about having a 6, it's more about the fact that most girls believe they are a 6 or above, then screw you over marriage.
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>>132796770
>If you fucking cucks wanted women to have rights
I don't want women to have rights, it's just that man who can work but refuses to is not a man at all. If you're not working to support your family then you should work to support your community, your country, local church or SOMETHING greater than yourself.
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>>132774313
I had sex with a few girls in high school. Dated a girl for a while in college. Broke up with her when she couldn't understand that birds are animals.

I decided to focus on my career; haven't really even considered "putting myself out there" until now. I'm finally making well over 6-figures (I don't live in an expensive liberal shithole), and I'm thinking about buying a house.

The problem is...I don't know what to do next. Do I use dating sites? I'm not extremely ugly, but the fact that I'm making good money, and I'm responsible should be a boon. Not sure how to advertise that without coming off as a tryhard.

I don't really go out in public outside of work activities.
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>>132781945
why is this guy suddenly fuckin everywhere
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>>132774313
WHORISH WOMEN ARE TO BLAME FOR MEN NOT WANTING WHORES IN LIFE!

I FUCKING HATE WHORES!

WE NEED MORE CHRISTIAN WOMEN!

THIS GENERATION IS AT LEAST 80% WHORES!
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>>132797509
just another leaf cuck
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>>132796518

>muh 50%

You anti-marriage shills love throwing out this statistic. It's a statistic which, on the surface, seems to justify your lifestyle.

The problem with that is, that statistic takes into account all marriages across all ages, races, income levels, religious beliefs and also takes into account repeat marriages and childless marriages, which inflate the statistics further.

Also, alimony is incredibly rare. It only occurs in 10% of marriages and rarely goes on long after the marriage. Lifelong alimony is nearly unheard of.

>I-if I try ti imply he is a woman, maybe people will take my side

Not going to work. Nearly everyone with traditional family values finds your liffestyle abhorrent.

>>132796558

Childlessness and being "independent" is becoming more and more common among people these days, both men and women. If they want to be part of that movement, it's up to them. But like you said, people are still getting married just fine. There is no justification for the hedonist lifestyle. Which is why nu-males on /pol/ should just embrace it instead of denying who they are.
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The thought of sexual and emotional interaction with a woman overwhelms me and I feel like crying. Not even joking I give up.
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>>132774313
>definitely not insufferable women
>definitely not because women won't sign the god damned prenup
Fuck that, majority of women are traps, I learned from my parents
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>>132791164
Should you go look for a women in another country? It seems like the odds of finding a better women in places outside the west are better
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>>132774313
No one cares fuck off.

I love being a vidya neet, I'm 35, living the dream.
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>>132797419
find a good church. It won't guarantee a good wife as there are plenty of harpies that will lie about being decent christians but it'll improve your chances -esp. if you use the old church lady fixing you up method. You still need to investigate the background of said girl (does she come from a good, stable family; is she not a whore, etc.)

You'll need a good church to raise your kids in anyway
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>>132778317
no you arent
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>>132798475
26 here.
once you get past the depression of feeling like you've been let down by society at the age of 24-28, 29-xx is going to be the best rest of your life. single life is awesome. go fuck yourselves. i'm gonna play vidya, drink, and travel.
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>>132775878
Can we do a thing to propose that March 14th is Men's day? Also known as Steak and a Blowjob Day.
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>Don't have high standards but want a woman who is saving herself for marriage like I am
>Live in a predominantly Catholic area
>Most girls stills spend their weekends drinking and spreading their legs
>Most of my facebook is cleavage and ass shots from said Catholics whoring out for likes
I'll keep playing vidya as much as I want. I have time to kill while I wait for the right woman, and if it doesn't happen to bad. Life is life. I'd rather die alone than risk my own happiness and money on some washed up cunt. Marriage and family isn't everything, and the last time I checked we had a population issue. Even if white birth rates are downs, I'm not sacrificing myself to some two cent whore.
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>>132791164

Let me add in one more thing. Yeah you might not get fucked that bad financially in a divorce. But the thing that will kill you is how your kids life's will end up. If your not there to raise them who knows what the outcome will be. Whore daughter, drug addicted son. Seeing your kids every other week isn't enough.

I think most guys would love to have families but when we look at all the facts the better lifestyle is to just date a woman until she dumps your ass because you won't put a ring on it.
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>>132791164
so your solution is to fuck sluts until you get an STD then you are stuck with them because gl getting anyone else or better yet, she gets preggo with another dudes kid and you get to raise it

fucking retard
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>>132796799
Stop wasting your breath insulting me, I couldn't care less if I tried, already dead on the inside.
Fascism is nothing more than an authoritarian ideology, mongoloid.

I'll give you a glimpse into my world since you seem far too confused to fathom another point of view without dismissing its origin, and also because this is my last reply to you.

>be me
>be 18
>got approached by twats in school but told them to fuck off because I wanted a girl that I vibed with, not sluts that gave it away for free
>good at academics but don't wanna be a slave, drop out
>start 2 businesses (one succeeds)
>work out 5 days a week
>start reading trp, couldn't believe 'Nice Girlsâ„¢' also cheated on their partners, so I learn to cold approach to know how to filter them
>fucking trp faggots were right, they're all sluts cryingangirlyfeels.jpg
>read about evolutionary psychology, how women view men as utilities
>meets mgtow
>pour my anger into biz
>start employing people at 21, more knowledgeable than ever, more suicidal than ever
>decide I want none of this shitty life if there's no esoteric beauty
>sell my biz, contemplate suicide
>become neet, parents worried
>obsess over AI and bio-engineering that might one day bring forth the only thing I wanted from life, a loyal girl
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>>132774313
Honestly, women are to blame for not being as cute as anime girls desu
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>>132798033
Exposure therapy..!

Just put yourself in situations that challenge, make mistakes, reflect on them and alter your approach next time

Soon you'll have a gf who strokes your wang and who you can get comfy with watching movies
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>>132799350

No. Have a relationship with a woman as long as possible. But she will eventually leave you if you don't wife her up. So you have several "mini relationships" throughout your life. If she got pregnant with another guys kid, since you got the Vasectomy you would know it isn't yours so you dump her and move on with your life.
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>>132774313
well it's our fault for forgetting/beingkikedbrainwashed that they are only animals
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>>132774313
There is zero incentive to father children and plenty of good reasons not to. Fix the incentives or the behavior will continue.
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>>132798595
You know, I'm not religious anymore, but I did go to church when I was young. That's not such a bad idea.
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>>132775878
>Men try to have a logical dialectic with women, women silence discussion by using the famous ad hominem "Mansplaining".
>Men can never understand what being a woman is like and should never question/judge, yet all women can understand what being a man is like.

These two hurt the most. Women act like we don't explain things to each other.
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>>132799899
>There is zero incentive to father children
How about to maintain western civilisation
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>>132799503
I understand your viewpoint, I get it. But you have to realize that there are good women out there who are not as bad as you think. You just need to go out and find them. Your current mindset is pitted against Women and that isn't healthy. Consider this; if you're in a nightclub looking for a woman to father your offspring, do you really think that's a good place to look for a traditional girl? See pic related, they're out there. Drop this MGTOW claptrap, it's divide and conquer and is designed to make you feel worthless and make every relationship seem futile. Things need to change yes, but that doesn't mean every last women is bad.
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>>132800401
What's left?

It's too late. They've already won.

Western civilization and white genes are regressive.
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i just realized men are actually way more degenerate than women and my bitterness towards women has actually been misplaced i mean my god at work the guys fucking wear cheetoh stained shirts or dont shave or bother to have any fashion sense and dont groom themselves. theres only very few guys that arent fucking disgusting
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>>132774313
it's mainly because women Chase these careers they won't want in 10 years and they waste the fertile years of their lives so by the time they realize their mistake they can only have one kid do too biological limits, if not they're usually chasing the cock carousel.
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>>132794635
The real red pill is knowing women are shit but understanding why it's important to get married and have children anyway.

There are very good women out there, better than any man, I'll give you that. But 9/10 have no morals whatever, in my experience. My experience could be a anomaly. It could be, but I doubt it.
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>>132801134
Yes there are very good women, and none of them are white and from North America or Western Europe.
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>>132779202
>men aged 20-45
>all looking for women aged 20-25
Our generation's women are absolutely fucking the next generation of men. They'll have a 1:4 ratio of men-women in the dating pool to deal with.
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>>132774313
it's the roastie whores that are the problem
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>>132778438
The only thing you have procreated with is a fucking degenerate who's child will end up shouting about their preffered pronouns
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>>132786862
>have sex with
We're looking for wives, anon. I've banged plenty of dream girls, some were even into D&D and Magic and shit so I whipped out my old highschool hobbies and enjoyed the nostalgia in between getting laid.

But they won't be exclusive with you. You're not boyfriend material.
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>>132799516

I think we had it right in the 40s and 50s. I don't know what happened besides loljews. But then again I'm just some 20 something who knows if it was actually better then.
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>but yet, if the title read "Today's Women Are Too Promiscuous and Dress Too Loosely For Today's Man". one's career would be taken in a heart beat.

despicable.
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>>132800516
Okay, you can be exempt you don't need to pass on your genes (please)

you can go and fingerpaint or whatever
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>>132779005
3d will be extinct in 10 years
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>>132779056

>reddit
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>>132793666
>satan told me not to trust the jews
Now I just don't know what to believe anymore.
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>>132774313
what about the black gentlemen don't they want families with them.
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>>132774313
>for women having kids late in life

the only way the walking garbage will ever procreate is by being a nigger sperm dumpster, and then being abandoned. no sane white man would fuck this garbage.
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>>132801455
Okay, yellow fever beta
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>>132790361
>Finland
Being gay is probably only the 10th thing wrong with you.
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Open relationships and fear of committing to doing anything in life.
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>>132774313
>women not taking responsibility
Color me surprised. :^)
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>>132795170

he probably cant get it up because they are fully clothed and on opposite sides of the bed
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>>132802363
>t. pink haired, tattooed she-beast
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To be honest I was a late bloomer and girls my age were not interested in me the entire time I was in high school I looked like a 6th grader.

And during this time I was falling for the woman meme HARD. The type of oneitis I had was extreme.

By the time I finally started developing in my 20s I had already been burned so bad that I had already learned how to live without women.

I don't see how to come back from this. I'm 28 and I have no experience with women and the romantic ember that I had inside me was firmly extinguished, they made sure of that.

These days when a woman shows interest in me it doesn't even register. I just assume she's trying to play her little sociopathic games and just totally ignore her.
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>>132776796
Same here, I'm 20 and I'm gaming FAR less than I've used to before, and nowadays I only play strategy games. If I only outgrew it earlier, so that I could've focused on my grades and shit. Fuck life.
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>>132774313
We do. I'm going to have a kid in 6 months, my best friend is about to have one, sister too, brother just had one, cousin is going to have one. Seems like everyone I know has or is about to have a kid.
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>>132782626
I was not a Chad or a jock. I was a literal autistic (light aspergers), had long hair, and did programming. Still got laid at 15 and had lots of sex after that.

If you can't beat an actual autist you're probably just a dirty slob.
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>>132802881
>want to produce more western children
>am therefore fat leftist woman
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>>132791164
>4. Pay Child Support. And if you don't they can take away your passport, even your license, also put you in jail.

i've never heard of the government taking away a man's passport or license for not paying child support. Ive never even heard of someone being put in jail for not paying child support.

I have heard of them garnishing a man's wages to pay child support though.
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>>132774313
The question is..... Why are men acting childish?

Checkmate.
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>>132788507
Yeah, I cant really stand some of the MGTOW theories.

I mean a lot of it is stuff PUAs would need to hear, but its not the whole picture.
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>>132774313
4chan has been overrun by Jews posting propaganda. Time to move on. This website must die.
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>>132774313
Uh oh...this is too truthy for /pol/

It's only women that are to blame here.
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>>132802881
>t. ant
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>>132786648
>I wish there was a NoPorn option on /pol/ but it won't happen.
You could always just go to a blue board.
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>>132782751
>people who marry that young are WAY more likely to divorce
sounds false to me
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>>132775963
Nice point you made there. Really made me think there and reevaluate my life choices.
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>>132774313
mmmm beer...
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>>132803523
It has more to do with how often they were beaten by their parents and if they're degenerates
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>>132778317
woman(male)
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>>132791164
if you are rich or make a lot of money just do a prenuptial agreement. there is no reason not to.
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>>132799214
Yup. I have no compulsion to enter I to any sort of relationship. I find most women around my age completely uninteresting, which I suppose is just a way of saying that they tend to share very few of my interests. This is exacerbated by the fact that I'm a pretty solitary person to begin with.

Getting a doggo later this year, gonna just have some beers, play some vidya, work out and enjoy myself with my best bud.
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>>132803173
not only that, we now have retarded children reposting this stupid propaganda as if its a meme.
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>>132775878
This is slightly true. However it's not as rampant as you are lead to believe and the only thing that would lead you to believe it's this powerful is if you never left your house.
Unfortunately a lot of people on /pol/ are virgins with no sense of reality, never try in life/make something out of it, and turn to pic related.
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>>132791901
Tits or gtfo, faggot.
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>>132804372
Go back to 9gag you fucking retard
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>>132774313
This attitude makes me want to marry you less, you fucking bitches. You're not mature enough to have kids if you think all you need to do is blame someone else for your problems.
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>>132779994
That knife block looks rather bulky, it would take up too much counter space
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>>132778349
Only the woman's age matters when it comes to those types of issues. The father could be 100 years old and if the mother is 20 the child won't have any more issues than if the father was 20.
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>>132784089
That's not the type of woman I want to marry. She needs to grow up first. I'm not her second father.
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>>132804542
Go back to your non country, cuck.
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>>132776796
Of course CoD fags grow out of games, because they only played shit games on consoles.
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>>132800496
>But you have to realize that there are good women out there who are not as bad as you think.
Thats a load of crap.

I see my mum and I see my aunts and I see my female cousins and how everyone single one of them treats their man as an asset.
Then I see my dad, I see my uncle and I see my cousins husbands and how miserable they are and the only thing keeping them together is they telling themselves that its worth for the ''warmth'' and the ''closeness'''and how'' need someone grow old with'' and somehow that the pussy is worth it for all the shit and inane demands they have to put up with.

I legitimately HATE women. All of them. From women using me as the rebound guy, to using me as ''the new one that is better than the old one'' to invoke jealousy in their exes to my ex fiance who was a ''good woman'' for 5 years until she decided to walk out on me to greener pastures because I was laid off and had a hard time finding a new job for a whole year.

Fuck women. Even a dog you pick up on the street is more loyal to you than a woman. I spit on them all.
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>>132776832
Latinas only age like shit because their diet is so high in meat and fat.
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>>132775878
capped
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>>132778317

Get out tranny, we dont love traps u sick fuk
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Many men nowdays simply are manchilds aka wannabe internet lurkers that waste their time here on boards like 4chan, on tge other side feminism liberal bullshit and all that also implied women nowdays not the need of a man since media highlights strong femnazi charachters on tv shows etc, when have you seen a true father figure in a tv show you could look up to and think he could be some childs idol. Grow up you spoiled pieces of shit and get out of your comfort zone.
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>>132791164
Any man child reading that post is going to believe it. This is worst case scenario and you deserve it for not being able to detect things early on in the relationship/not controlling your woman.
This is pathetic whining at best.
Where were you when you realized /pol/ is a bunch of whiny kids who won't ever make something out of themselves and "save the white race"

We're fucked.
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>>132781945
Yep. He refined it to: "Yea there's legitimate concerns with the marriage system but you shouldn't advocate for people not to get married because it's bad to not get married because.... it just is ok. Also sorry that you were insulted by being called pathetic weasel."
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>>132780258
What if your goal is to buy a top of the line gaming computer every year? I don't need friends ... I wouldn't even know how to make friends when you're over 25 .. Sports leagues are out of the question because I'm fat.
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>>132774313
In college I remember every single girl I know saying "I'm never having children." I think that's probably the culprit
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>>132789771
Daddy Trudeau and the government will take care of that. He is already looking into a man tax
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>>132805365
So prove him wrong. Name calling doesn't get anywhere here, (((anon))).
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>>132791164
>get a Vasectomy asap,
This is how we die out.
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>>132804923
You don't seem to realise the fluid interplay of the social dynamics... women treat you a certain way because of the type of man you are

But you see it as: you are the type of man you are because of the way women treat you

Become a stronger man and women will treat you very differently. Women don't owe you anything. Admittedly, you can do other things to avoid being in your father/uncle's situation. Don't have sex outside of a commited relationship. Don't have sex with someone you wouldn't be prepared to have children with. Don't have children until you have the means to support them. Have children with someone who shares the same spiritual views as you.
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>>132804321

Yeah, MGTOW is retarded and short-term thinking at the cost of long-term thinking. Family is very important, especially towards the last years of your life.
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>>132805803
I mean, seriously, do you want us to die out?
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>>132780258
Dude's literally a self-help guru. Opinion discarded.
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>>132776796
40+, still play high end pc games, never played consoles. Too normie for me.
Wife, more than 2 kids, and I run a business with employees.
The problem is women. They are a bunch of self absorbed whores unworthy of respect by men. It's their problem, not ours. We don't need them except to knock them up. Better off getting a contractual surrogate than dealing with these whores. If you find a good one like I did, lock that shit in and control the shit out of her. Keep her in line.
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>>132804321

His post was actually very accurate and nothing he said in it indicated MGTOW at all. You're wrong. /pol/ does not turn to MGTOW, most of this board shits on it 24/7.
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>>132805926

wow dude you sound alpha as fuck
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>>132774313
>now they blame us for their slutwalk lifestyle
This makes even the most stoic people snap.
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>>132791630
Gen Z loves trigger jokes. I see it pretty regularly at shopping centers or on buses.

This means the micro aggression brigade is dead at the knees.
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>>132805745
None of that will happen if you have a pair of balls and can control your wife.
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>>132805986
They call everything MGTOW or MRA that criticizes women in any way shape or form, regardless of the content. I could say, "Yeah, women are poisoning themselves with make-up," and they'd call that MRA or MGTOW.
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>>132806118
>Just be her second father!
Nah. She needs to grow up before I even think about marrying her. I'm not a mental pedophile.
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>>132805872
You say self-help like there's something wrong with it

Isn't it the basis of conservative thinking?
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>>132778440
>The ultimate black pill is realising free will is a lie and you can only at best make good decisions about your health, which of course requires free will
Do you not understand what english words mean? Retard, shill, troll? If there is no free will you have no best or worst you can do, no CHOICES at all. Fucking greasy hairball moron.
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>>132805844

Still plenty of white folks having kids. Not at the levels of other races but oh well. Enjoy the decline, you only have one life. Don't bring innocent kids into a shit world.
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>>132802881
>slavic women
Is this a joke? Slavic women are literally the biggest whores out there.
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>>132806118
Controlling your wife is abuse and will land you in prison or get you enslaved via divorce and the subsequent alimony.
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>>132793941

>Listening to dyke fatties about not cat calling women

No offense, but you should've realized that girls are wired this way in your teens. You need to be assertive and treat them like a man treats a woman.

Too many men do not understand that they don't have to listen to kike propaganda. Turn off the fucking television and experience life.

Who get the most women? Emulate them. If sex isn't important to you don't complain when people judge you for not pursuing normal and healthy man/woman relationships.
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>>132805365
>implying it maters
Humanity isn't the future. Your pure breed white offspring will be just as irrelevant as the most immature of man children once genetic modification of humans becomes accepted... It wont by Tyrone stealing our women 100 years from now; it'll be specimen 237 and his scientifically perfected ultra cock that they'll be craving.

Congrats on investing your entire existence into a failed species.
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>>132806237
Self-help gurus are scam artists. They fix nothing.
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>>132806237
Are you retarded?
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>>132806122

I know. They are also in denial about it too. You call them out on it and they just sperg out in denial with their next reply.
I'm also not sure where these people get off sometimes. The internet goes on and on 24/7 about how bad young men are these days. It's almost as if there is certain people who solely exist to shill for women.
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>>132805803

If you can't afford an annual sperm storage fee of a few hundred, you shouldn't be reproducing anyways.
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>>132806309
>They fix nothing
You're right. Only you can fix yourself. But they show you how
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>>132806396
Most of them are shills or feminists. Shaming men for them has become an instinct and not a basis of reality. Most do it for some freakish self-amusement reason and it no longer actually pertains to politics or reason.
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>>132806287
This. Also weather you're actin "controlling" or "in control" is completely subjective and could change if your spouses opinion of you shifts for some reason (like you losing your job).
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>>132806457
>Ignore the cause (women being shit).
>Cover up the problem (just blame men).
No. They don't.
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>>132774313
You just end up with a child support invoice and no de facto family anyway. Maybe get to say hello to the children once every forthnight. So what's the point?

Feminism killed family.
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>>132806287
This is exactly what i'm talking about. /pol is beyond saving.
If you are alpha and successful/worth looking up to, they will listen to everything you say and NEVER have a reason to cheat, or doubt you. When you become beta... well I'm sure you can guess what happens.
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>>132805825
>Women don't owe you anything.
Isn't what this thread is all about?
I swear the cognitive dissonance in some of you people is just staggering.

Yeah, we, men, need to get our shit together, actually, that's not enough; let's shit out our kidneys improving and building a society for entitled, ungrateful hoes that don't owe us anything.
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>>132806576
Women aren't any more shit than they've always been. It's just that they're allowed to get away with it.
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>>132806596
>muh alpha/beta
Which is defined as success in terms of what Jew wants it to be. Which is not alpha at all. Maturity requires you to look beyond that diametric bullshit. Which modern women are not capable of and exactly why men are avoiding them.

It's still all on women.
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>>132787305

Get on a dating app and get your feet wet. It really isn't hard but there are too many men who aren't even trying to court women which is fine, but they feel incredible depression due to the lack of intimacy which leads to suicidal thoughts.

If you the idea of romance makes you happy or lack of it makes you miserable then you need to change your priorities. People will dump countless hours into sites like 4chan which do very little to bring enjoyment just so they can shy away from what will actually give them happiness.
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>>132806726
No. Now is the time they can't get away with it. In case you didn't notice men are calling them out and avoiding them. What you want is to return to the status quo where they can flounder around in their immaturity.
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>>132806085
These feels hit home.
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>>132805825
>Women don't owe you anything.
Yes, the tax benefits they receive from men via the government is their vagina given right. Men are obligated to financially support women, but women have no obligation. Just like dependent children.
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>>132806502

We can even go back to 2012 or so, when this whole anti young male internet subculture started. It's quite cruel and evil, honestly. These people can't understand that the world has changed too much, and they can either accept how things are now, or destroy feminism and technology and have us truly revert back to "the good old days". They can't have their cake and eat it too. They've been shaming young men online for years and if you follow their train of thought, things have only gotten worse. So at some point they have to give up or change their approach.
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>>132806276

Them's fightin' words, my friend.
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>>132806919
Started in the 90s, honestly. That's where, "Get in touch with your feminine feelings!" bullshit began.
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>>132804923
I have yet to meet a man who is happier after getting married.
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>>132806596
If you are alpha why would you get married? If you're alpha and successful you can attract as many women as you want and don't need to settle down with only one. I'm obviously not saying I'm alpha as I'm not but marriage is the literal definition of beta.
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>>132806576
You know how no-ones respects 3rd wave feminists because they accept zero personal accountability and blame all their problems on men?

You know how no-ones respects BLM because they accept zero personal accountability and blame all their problems on white people?

Please go back to whichever reddit board you came from and stop infecting this one. We are trying to save the Western world
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>>132807073
You can't save the Western world by having men guide around a bunch of children. You can't raise them without grown mature women.

You can keep defending their shitty behavior if you want. I won't. You can't save the world by trying to force in broken parts (women). You can only demand they get their shit together and punish them when they don't.
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>>132806973

I'm more familiar with what's happened since 2012. It affected me deeply for a while but I've mostly gotten over it. Yes, young men are raised to be pussies and all that, but that goes back to "the world has changed too much". You can't have some makeshift patriarchy of "real men" exist alongside feminism and slut culture and technology in the modern age. /pol/ refuses to accept that and so does almost everyone else, which is why these conversations will still happen a week, 6 months, and 3 years from now. On and on.
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>ITT "alpha" men are too scared to tell women they're the problem
No wonder feminist won.
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>>132806850
They can still fuck a random guy and take your house. I still call that getting away with it. Also as you can see most of the west seems to be doubling down on the empowerment of women at the expense of men. We might see bachelor taxes or even forced marriages in the future. Obviously it's going to bring the west crashing down eventually but until then they will keep getting away with it.
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>>132797355
yes yes goy, tell those wage cucks to get back to work so i can reap the rewards
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>>132806627
It's like a customer and a business owner. You are gonna fail as a business owner if you think the customer owes you something. You become bitter about why they don't buy your product, even though it's so great. Your bitterness drives them off and you deepen the cycle
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>>132806596
No, you're beyond saving.
You don't understand most people are perfectly happy being betas and will not engage in lifelong larping just to have the privilege of keeping a stinky cunt by our sides.

Among the keyboard warriors and theorycrafting wizards of the internet, there's people who actually speak from experience; and in terms of intersexual dynamics, I've found most of them to be Mgtows.
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>>132807057
>If you are alpha why would you get married? If you're alpha and successful you can attract as many women as you want and don't need to settle down with only one. I'm obviously not saying I'm alpha as I'm not but marriage is the literal definition of beta.
I would like to have many educated, redpilled white children. Sleeping around outside of marriage is degenerate as can be.
It does nothing, I don't care for meaningless sex.

>>132806748
Success not only has to do with wealth but also your social standing, how good you are at conversing with others as well.
Most people cannot fathom putting in enough effort to learn any of this and thus end up being betas who let women walk over them, man child hobbies, etc.
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>>132807387
>t.mangina
Men don't blame, men fix.
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>>132807474
That's fine. But don't call yourself alpha when you're acting like a regular beta provider.
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>>132807336
It's just a power grab. Trying to put the mantle of responsibility and hard work on men while women sit back and drag in the benefits hand over fist. All these men saying, "Hurr durr women will do better!" don't even realize they're being played.

You simply cannot fix modern women by pretending to be a tough guy and marry them telling yourself, "Yeah, she'll just do what I want." There's too many counter-points in play, like divorce courts.

It's dumb. The only way is for men to pull off the field and toss some hard work women's way until they realize they need to grow the fuck up if they want things to work.

All these people with, "Save the white race!" are basically flushing it by leaving women in charge with zero accountability.
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>>132807469
>You don't understand most people are perfectly happy being betas and will not engage in lifelong larping just to have the privilege of keeping a stinky cunt by our sides
This post reeks of r9k.

Go back to your cesspit or at least try to improve yourself. A little bit of effort goes a long way.
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>>132786862
those men are providers
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>>132807281
Women are natural followers. When women become strong leaders, mature women will start to appear.

>You can only demand they get their shit together and punish them when they don't
This is the crux of your faulty worldview imo. You can't demand anyone get's their shit together. You can only get your own shit together, and walk your path and hope others follow you
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>>132803173
>4chan has been overrun by Jews posting propaganda
oh pls. it's just /r9k/ leaking over to here.
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>>132807474
>Alpha/beta dichotomy again.
So you're immature? You think you can just tell grown men how to act and you think they'll just do what you want?

Are you a woman?
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>>132775428
Maybe if you didn't start out everything that describes yourself with "Well, as an educated woman..." you wouldn't have trouble finding someone.

Quit being so full of yourself, realize Chad isn't going to want to have a family with you when he can still fuck 20 year old women when he's 50.
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>>132807281

Realistically, how are you going to punish women for their foolish decisions without enabling it?

There will always be hundreds of guys ready to give women their cock if she shows even the slightest interest in them.

The responsibility to say no can't be solely placed on the woman. In generations prior, if a man approached a single woman in a rude or volatile way he had to answer to her father or brothers. If she was married he would get lynched or beaten until he was a cripple.

The threat of violence used to keep social order which is completely normal and can be found in all social animals. Without that, society will decay and people will become more depressed and genuinely autistic being unable to relate to anyone in this world because everyone is an individual and accountable to no one.
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>>132807713
>You can't demand anyone get's their shit together.
Yes, you can. Hilariously, you just want a nation of children raised by enslaved men.
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>>132807659
>having a successful, fulfilling life, and family with a lot of children is being a beta provider
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>>132807713
when men become strong leaders*
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>>132807849
Have you not noticed? All it takes is 10% of men to pull away.
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>>132776796
22 all I do is play games, watch Twitch and Youtube, never had a Girlfriend, live in Sweden. Have expensive Subaru though. And I am not ugly or anything, just don´t like to talk that much
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>>132806835
>Get on a dating app
>2017
>dating app
Dunno if your an old fart having no idea what he's talking about or a literal austist without a clue of the real world.

>>132806890
Spot on, bro.

>>132807453
Pls, just go.
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>>132807887
You're a beta if you're married and miserable and you do what's expected of you by anonymous voices on 4chan.
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>>132807865
How exactly do you 'demand' it?
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>>132807887
Yes it is. "Alphas" can attract mates with their genetics alone. "Betas" need to provide for their mates with resources. I'm all for traditional values but like I said stop pretending they prescribe alpha behaviour.
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>Men have an opportunity to make women finally address their immature slut behavior.
>NO JUST MARRY THEM ANYWAY!
You can be a "beta" provider if you want and call it "alpha" till you're blue in the face. As I said: I'm not. I want a grown up and mature woman who understands being a slut and a feminist has consequences and thoughtfully avoided them.
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>>132808111
>Marry us! We're getting old and we were sluts!
>No.
And the next generation of women avoid being sluts. Easy.

>inb4 it won't work
So long as people keep blaming men and avoiding the real issue yeah, it won't. Doesn't mean I won't do the right thing.
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>>132808229
that's not what anyone is saying

back to >>>/r9k/ permavirgin
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>>132807849

The thing is, is I have met some women in real life that are strong, responsible adults. They do exist. I do go outside. I wouldn't say they are the norm at all, but the issue here is that I see this as more of a cultural and societal issue than a "women's" issue. As bad as women can be, western society enables it and there are always men around to shill for women. It especially bothers me when feminists and traditionalists lie and tell me that women are still oppressed and that we live in some horrible prude society full of white male privilege and all that. It doesn't exist. What exists is a broken society dragging it's wounded ass down the road, and everyone who advocates that we fix it are advocating for the wrong reasons and approaches.

I guess it's just too bitter of a redpill for everyone to swallow, but western society really does hate men in many ways, women have it too easy, promiscuity is too rampant and not enough good people exist.
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>>132808363
>that's not what anyone is saying

see

>>132807474
>>132806596

That's exactly what's being said.
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>>132807960
Please, sven, for the love of demographics and the future of western values, honour your forefathers

Don't spend your life on accumulating consumer good and on endless amusements
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>>132806973
>90's

We are talking about neo-feminism and it's consequences.

It started in the mid 1960's, became apparent in the 1970's, got weird in the 1980's, sickening in the 1990's. Now it is running full amok.

Everywhere you see these desperate and confused women in their 30's. You can literarily hear their biological clocks ticking. And you see young and middle-aged men with that DILLIGAF look on their faces, knowing that no matter what they do, they are so screwed. Nobody can find a place in life. Things fall apart; the center cannot hold.

Feminism killed family.

So now they desperately import 'men' not yet destroyed by feminism but with a culturure and moral so dysfunctional in every other aspect that entire countries has already been laid waste by it, in hope to find new victims to exploit. But all they get are gang rapists and suicide bombers.

We need a good old war.
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>>132808462
No. Just leave the mess until women realize to clean it up. If you do it for them they're just going to revert.
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>>132808354
>the next generation of women
how will there be a next generation if nobody has kids
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>>132808229
>>132808433
>I want! I want! I want!
You won't be getting anything or anyone being like this. It reeks of irresponsibility.
What are you honestly expecting?
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>>132806276
Nah
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>>132807680
Jump my dick, greasehead.
Just because you've only lost the first 2 from your 320lbs ass doesn't mean others haven't walked the path.
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>>132808653
It only takes 10% of men pulling back for enough pressure to be put down. And it's not like all the children suddenly disappeared this generation, dumb ass.

>>132808698
>If I copy what you said that means I win!
lol k buddy. You keep being "alpha."
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>>132808462
Feminism started in the late 19th and early 20th century. It's based on the same principles as Marxism (the blank slate theory). All of it is cancer and all of it has to go.
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>>132808653

Conservatives are having kids.

Once this process of liberal eugenic cleanses is through, there will be competition between conservative racially aware whites (born to parents who consciously did not race mix) and the other races that demographically replaced whites as the majority in Western nations.

It's going to be a rough ride but nobody asked for this shit. We are just here to do the best that we can.
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>>132808822
It actually started in 1399.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_de_Pizan
Even SHE said being a slut is harmful to women.
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>>132805825
>You don't seem to realise the fluid interplay of the social dynamics... women treat you a certain way because of the type of man you are
''Women treat you like shit because you are shit''
Righto.

>Become a stronger man and women will treat you very differently
Why would I do that if you already told me that ''women dont owe me anything'' no matter if I am a stronger man or not?


>Women don't owe you anything.
Yes they do. They owe me exactly the same I am willing to put in a relationship. This should be the bare minimum. If you do not thing that a woman owes me loyalty when I am loyal to her then why the fuck would I ever want a woman?
Why would anyone ever want a woman?

As the other anon said, the cognitive dissonance of shit you say is just mind-boggling. Actually you being a woman would explain the amount of batshit retarded shit you just have said.
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>>132778317
>TFW you are an beautiful non-degen
>you are an beautiful
>an beautiful
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>>132808462

Yes, I agree. Feminism is a civilizational problem that these "real men" are too pussy to confront. So they advocate ignoring it, but that's what got us to this point in the first place. But I don't think anybody can deny that "neo-feminism" is the most cancerous and cruel and evil form of it all. And it's absolutely despicable that western culture has not taken more of a stand against it.
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>>132808822
>Feminism
I said Neo-feminism. That's mid 1960's. The old school suffragettes was something rather different.
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>>132808922

>eugenic cleansing*
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>>132808742
>projecting this hard

Fuck me, I hope it's just a handful of /r9k/ betas crying on /pol/ and not the whole board
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>>132809205
>If I call you names that means my argument is stronger.
Like I said: immature. You're definitely a feminist with the amount of shaming tactics you've been running.
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>>132805612
This needs to be mentioned more often.
I dated 3 women in the past 2 years in thier 20s and they all said this.
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>>132809458
Looks like they all changed their minds.
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