New Russian army assault rifle - M4..er AK 12

>>132725795
Russian weapons are pure sex.

can they do anything not over and over again?

>>132725795
Doesn't look like an AR-15 at all.

The Tavor is the single greatest assault rifle ever invented. I still don't understand why other people are even trying to compete with it.

>>132725795
CYKA BLYAT KALASH MNE SBROSTE KTO NIBUD

>>132725795
Is that a FAMAS ?

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>>132725795
it looks like that 99c plastic AK47 that povvo kids would always get for christmas.

its clearly a piston gun and its got a stamped reciever. obviously an AK. weak bait homie.

>not even an AUG variant
never gonna make it brah

shit compared to greek made rifles desu

Looks nice to shoot but when will they surplus those VSS's for me?

>>132726041
>t. no guns straya
Shouldn't you be giving your every day routine blowjob to your local emu warlord?

>>132726225
show us your real ID roach.

Off to /k/ m8s

Man, that 5.45 round is a nasty little fucker. Has shit barrier penetration, but it will ruin your ass, if you get zapped by one.

sweet rifle.

>>132726323
Did you really get blacked by one? That's what you're suggesting, right?

>>132726323
7n6 is steel core. Pretty decent barrier pen brah. If it goes through UN baby blue helmets I'd say that's bretty gud

>>132726176

Look at this Player Unknown's Battlegrounds LARPing faggot.

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>>132725795
Wow... it's fucking slavshit.

>>132726295
No. What're ya gonna do about it, straya cuck? :^)

>seppos and snow gooks will NEVER be as operator as this
the AUSTEYER is the greatest rifle ever made

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>>132726494
jealous you nigger mud ?

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>>132725795
>the upper dust cover ist still loosely fitted, making it unsuited to attach sights
>the magazine well is still too short and makes the mag rattle
>the mag release still cannot be reached with trigger hand
>the barell is still too short
>the gas system still makes the barrel whip like a reet

bonus: still using stamped steel

conclusion:
This is a monkey gun, made to being sold to mokeys. Put some bling and LEDs on it and the niggers will go crazy about it.

>>132725795

Let us all squat in the corner and appreciate this ak-47 rip-off.

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>>132726494

>>132725992
5.56×45mm NATO

Snore.

>>132725992
because the Tav is an overhyped design that put form before function.
And Its buttstock is way too fat.

>>132726455
Yeah, it's steel core. And, as mediocre as our M855 is at it. But, 7N6 shines in what it does to a human body. The scary shit is the n22/24 stuff. That's truly armor piercing and penetrates pretty decently.

>>132726712
But ofc, here is something to get you into mood.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5E7DERCMskk

>>132726646
Tacticool

>not even bullpup

top kek, why do these dumb countries still buy oversized rifles?

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Sooo it's basically a 74M just tacticooled with better ergonomics.

Not surprising really since the rifle is already as good as it can get.

>>132726295
Agreed.

>>132726655
>>132726715
Slavshit is shit
No exception

>>132726684
Found the AR fag

>>132725795
>>>/k/

what's considered the most jewish gun

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>>132725795

Ye its gud

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>>132725795
Looks suitable for rushing B

>>132727441
That's why commie rice farmers armed with SKS and AKs defeated the entire US military with their "state of the art" M16s

>>132727606
Galil

>>132727622
Nice, where did you acquire one

>>132726684
>talking shit about AKs when the G36 literally melts if you shoot it too much

>>132725992
I would have solemnly concured if you said Galil Ace.

>>132725949
>over and over again?
this is a pretty big change, they are changing to a western-style thumb selector from the old Remington paddle selector seen on previous generations of AK.

Of course, they will probably make 200 of them, issue only to a few units, and keep on using AK-74M

polite sage for /k/ topic

>>132727702

If I told you I'd have to rekt u

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>>132727675
>it's the farmers with guns episode
They "won" because hippies and crony politicians don't know how to win a war. We were commuting retarded levels of casualties against them and after the Tet offensive they were completely exhausted and then instead of launching counter-offensive shitty politicians stopped the war.
I hate re-runs

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>>132727606
Tavor and Uzi

>>132727933
Nothing like carrying a 4kg brick around.

>>132727685
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Galil, is in fact, Rk.62/Galil, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Rk.62 plus Galil. Galil is not a rifle unto itself, but rather another marginal improvement of a fully functioning Rk.62 system made useful by the Rk.62 corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full rifle as defined by POSIX.
Many rifle users run a modified version of the Rk.62 system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Rk.62 which is widely used today is often called “Galil”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Rk.62 system, developed by the Rk.62 Project. There really is a Galil, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Galil is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Galil is normally used in combination with the Rk.62 operating system: the whole system is basically Rk.62 with Galil added, or Rk.62/Galil. All the so-called “Galil” distributions are really distributions of Rk.62/Gal

>>132726646
That shit is heavy as fuck. I know since I've had the pleasure of handling one. It's fucking crap considering your Island is mostly desert and your fighting overseas sandpeople in their sandcastle sandboxes where light weight is preferable since you're constantly losing liquids due to the heat..

Also AUG is a fucking jam-o-matic when it meets sandy environments. God-tier when used in mountainous but temperate climates like Austria but shit tier in sandland.

>>132727606
Deagle, because its overpriced meme gun with shit design and stupid goys still eat it up.

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>>132727441
Slavshit is made for actual war. What you make are overengineered overpriced bricks that malfunction as soon as they're taken out of their perfect testing conditions.
Nothing in the world comes even close to the service record of AK's and their replicas or derivatives.

>>132727996
>tfw someone posts your oc

>>132727622
Airshit! KYS

>>132728643

Good one!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DX73uXs3xGU

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In a perfect contest, A-545 would have become primary service rifle years ago. In a contest we have instead, a 70 year old rifle wrapped in plastic frame gets state procurement order because the factory manufacturing employs more people and has more connections in the government.

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>>132726303
>this is what /nogunz/ butthurt looks like

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Why not a Sa.58 5.56?

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>>132725795
Muh ak

>>132725992
>4MOA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA

>>132728771

Haha ye

AK47 was already perfect, it was a matter of time it got improved rails for making that heavy monster handy tactical. Plus brand new inner gear. Noice.

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>>132729289
Ak47 is far from perfect.

If it would be so great, why would russians change caliber and shit?
Just look at AK74M.

AK47 is waaay too old.

>>132726484
It takes one to know one cock monger

>>132729289
>AK47
Why do you fucks always call it AK47?
There is only one real rifle called AK-47 and this gun in the museum.

>>132728592
We're practically expendable storm troopers for England so it's not a bad gun considering

>>132729529
Oh fuck. I forgot - again.
It can change a lot. F.e T-34 and T34 are totally diffirent things. T-34 is legendary tank and T34 is american failure.

>>132729529
Because he is an airshitter no-guns faggot. Their knowledge of firearms is from vidya.

>>132728968
That's an extreme test which any other gun would fail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7d_bsaPR_Q

>>132729671
>imagine being this retarded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAneTFiz5WU&t=15s

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>>132729671

Except the AR-15

>>132729126
>keymod
oh, I'm sorry for that guy redirecting you to the wrong board, maybe you'll find yourself more comfortable at >>>/trash/

>>132728988
Or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtMssTSnRHU

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>>132728988
I read also it was also chosen because the old faggot was still alive and you didn't want to hurt his feelings.

>>132729871
Keymod is lighter, modulate how you like, and allows for better cooling. Going full quadrail is so 2000s.

>>132728968
That test means nothing.
No one is going to submerge their AK in mud, the loose tolerances is what makes it run so well in any condition but forcefully filling the void the bolt is meant to enter will cause a failure no matter the rifle.
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>>132729733
Because the AR has tight tolerances (and they closed the fucking bolt cover) so almost nothing got in. It's a situation that will legitimately never happen. AR platform is better than the AK though.

>>132730027
keymod is also ugly as sin
now fuck out of here with your shit taste

>>132729733
>>132729822
Mud isn't the same as water. Also you're not gonna be fighting in that mudtest kind of mud without taking Tartis Back to WW1 western front.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJs9sBBjLls

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>>132725795
>no vampire vision

FUCKING DROPPT

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>>132725795
LOL, """AK-12""". Real AK-12 got fucked by army bureaucracy and Izmash. It was supposed to be like that. But instead, you get an ol' AK-74 with tacticool mod.

>>132729245
What is this image from?
I have to see if its real.

>>132729996
Expensive and complex mechanics means more severe and numerous possibilities to fail miserably in combat environment. Keep it simple and easy to fix is what I say.

>>132730082
Watch the full vid, they do it what the cover open.

>>132730249
Rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. Readiness for wet and dry environments is kino.

>>132730191
Keymod is super comfy on the hands and superior for all the reasons I listed.

>aesthetics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5w8tqjoqF4

I still think it looks nice anyway.

>>132729529
In the museums, and in hands of the arabs.
Isn't the AK-47(since when are you ruskis this delicate) the base of all the following models?
To me, any of them related versions are the best kind of assault rifle. Legendary power and reliability. Here we have melting stock HK G36. Fuck.

>>132729659
Go eat rotten fish you dumbass. In a country where you can only own pellet/hunting weapons I do the best I can. Would like to see u taking a burst of steel bbs on the skull at 300fps.

>>132726035
it's Colt Single Action you dumbass, kys.

>>132730443
Berserk.

>>132730642
it's obviously a Glock

>>132725992
They'd rather not fund terrorism.

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>>132725795
Another proof that russkies can't invent anything new. They've been driving the same shitty T-72 for 50 years, flying the same shitty R7 rocket for 60 years and shooting with the same shitty AK for 70 years, just strapping flashy gadgets on them trying to mimic NATO

>>132730724
It's actually an F-35

>>132730436
invalid argument.
i played fps, 74m has superior recoil and low spread.

>>132727606
Mortgage.

>>132730548
>muh tactical advantage over aesthetics
do you really think adding a ton of shit on your gun is going to help you in any meaningful way?
keymod is a meme, get over it

>>132730635
>Isn't the AK-47(since when are you ruskis this delicate) the base of all the following models?
Yes. But that doesn't mean it was a particularly great rifle, it's cheap and can be abused by illiterate dirt farmer.
>In the museums, and in hands of the arabs.
Arabs mostly have AKM's and western weapons now thanks to the sand people the US put in place just giving up and letting ISIS take all their shit.
>Legendary power and reliability.
Another legendary trait of the AK-47 is ridiculous recoil and shit MOA.

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>>132730765
And this is why south koreans used technology from old rusty """"T-64"""" while developing K2 Black panther.

Sure they can't invent anything.

By the way, how are leopards doining in Syria?

>>132730765
Armata is completely new.
Its modular design is a first for MBTs too.
SU-47 project was unique too, and so is the PAK FArt

If it ain't broken, don't fix it.

>>132730548
>Rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

Exactly and (average) AR isn't going to survive wet (or cold) conditions as well as AK is. AR design lacks the tolerances for extreme temperature fluxtuion when firing the weapon in extreme cold or while wet/underwater. AK does even though firing it underwater or wet was never the intention the fact it was designed to withstand Russian winter makes it also capable of this.

>>132727522
not an argument

>>132727925
tu quoque fallacy

>>132730948
You're actually retarded then. The point of a keymod is to avoid being cumbersome. Only put attachments where you need them. Meanwhile quadrails are already setup to have attachments literally everywhere adding lots of weight.

The only thing you could say that would save yourself in this would be to advocate for poly hand guards. Which is less accurate, less customization and more heat. But its lighter.

>>132725795
Russia military without nukes is shit tier.

>>132730765
small arms technology everywhere in the world is still stuck in the 1970s, and the only truly modern tank in existence is t-14. all major armies operate legacy tech, ahmed. you'd know that if your host country had military worth mentioning

>>132731110
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CVe7d7xJdAo

Nope

>>132725992
It's shit

>>132731110
Nigga fucking please

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oieG20FxRyQ

>>132726684
You know the dust cover had been completely redesigned right?

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>>132730765

>>132731498
Uh let me just spray a little water to the outside of my guns. See it like totally still works. How 'bout trying that after a ice water swim due to falling through ice in to a fucking lake after which you decide to camp in a Nordic night leaving your weapon outside due to some retarded military safety concern. I don't think so.

>>132731556
Temperature fluxuation is the factor here not cold itself.

I would never but my dear AR through what my AK based service rifle went through during my military service.

>>132732023
>Temperature fluxuation is the factor here not cold itself.

What the fuck do you think is happening when they pull the trigger?

>>132732023

>test is not severe enough

AK still failed chump

>that glorious reciprocating piston on the new AKs
Literally NO RECOIL. Fucking vodka space magic.

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Can some /k/fag explain why countries even replace their assault rifles in 2017? Small arms design pretty much reached its peak in the 70s and since then it's just small changes like slightly lighter materials or better ergonomics. We're not talking about jet fighters here. The only reason I can think of is the weapon companies ((((lobbying)))) for the replacements.

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>>132725795
>M4..er AK 12
>i can't into weepoonz
no wonder your country was screewed at every turn of the history

>>132732123
Do you mean to say there isn't a fucking difference when firing a frozen weapon to a dry weapon? Back to high school pal.

>>132732247
Shit-tier American made AK failed. I have a very different experience about Finnish RKs (which I consider part of the AK family) and ARs.

Don't get me wrong I love both weapons but AR is clearly a weapon for professionals who know how to take care of their weapon and AK is weapon for idiot conscripts who don't know or care shit about anything..

>>132728968
AKs may not be the best at keeping mud out bit I still trust them more than ARs in most cases.

ARs have the unfortunate habit, at least in my experience, of malfunctioning from just using them. Too much fouling and my ARs choke on extraction, my AKs have never failed me while my ARs are constant drama queens.

They're both great guns though.

>>132732549
It's a joke Ivan. I think the cold has frozen your brain.

>>132730790
No it's a musket, kanker

>>132725992
I have one
>>132726724
Only problem i have with it

>>132726646
That's a gay gun bruce

>>132730765
Yeah and your service rifle is just a 60 year old American rifle literally designed as a cut rate M16 for 3rd world countries. But it's wrapped in teutonic plastic instead of stamped steel so that makes you guys engineering genuises.

>railshit

Just make something aesthetic for once

>>132732423
Ours look cooler than ak12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsutBSZKmgw
better too.

>>132732023
Uh fall through ice...thinking anyone is going to be combat capable as one has to undress after getting out to avoid hypothermia. Now you naked in the snow in winter. Also being by yourself during combat?

>>132733120
shut up cunt
SASR > SAS

>>132727667
Davai na B)))

>>132725795
How long until I can pick one of these up at Walmart?

>>132726646
Augs are gay af

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>>132730436
>reee, izhmash didn't get to burn a whole bunch of money to make as much of not interchangable parts as possible
if it ain't broken - don't fix it
who cares how it looks like, internals are still the same as in the early prototypes
we are too poor

>>132733197
what the fuck is that abomination?

>>132725992
>memepup

>>132725992
>bullpup
top jej

>>132734049
Looks like something you get when you ask your 12 year old to draw you the coolest gun ever.

>>132733415
It's not like I had a choice in the matter. Just quickly get undressed try to make your self as dry as possible and change some dry clothes on. I was lucky enough to have realized that snow melts so I packed all my clothes into plastic backs inside my backbag before going out on exercise mission.

Ok so why isn't this thread on >>>/k/

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>>132732899
yes, retard, i know
it's a shitty joke
>hurr durr, rails'n'shiiieeet
>m4 eks dee

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>>132734459
Because fuck you, that's why.

>>132725949
Pretty hard to improve on something perfected in 1947.
They manage to keep doing it though

>>132734544
>I'm only pretending to be retarded
Nice try.

>>132734544
Also, not just rails, it's in 5.56.

>>132725795
lol they finally properly into attachments.

you retards do know small arms are useless, right? you idiots that never fought anywhere know that artillery makes 80% of all casualties, right? you larpers know that small arms fire can be blocked with a bag filled with earth, with a tree, with a concrete wall, with almost any obstacle and you cant even shoot indirectly/shoot targets behind cover with it, right?

i still dont get sperging over small arms, as if they were any effective at killing people
if you want to actually kill people, you need artillery, faster than sound flying air craft, computers to stabilize, calculate, execute commands perfectly, satellites for navigation, chemistry and physics to develop better explosives and materials, etc

>muh small arms
pure psychological factor, next thing you are going to tell me is that boots, helmets and uniforms matter

>>132729871
Hey Italy, all your beretta arx 160 service rifles are ambidextrous

are you planning on switching sides?

>>132725992
MAC please go

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based waffles

>>132725795
The stock and holosight looks weird on a kalashnikov. Cant decide if it looks american or russian.

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>>132735198
>projecting
yeah, fuck off

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>>132730436
How does the Russian military get optics mounted on dust cover rails to maintain zero? In America, civilian dust cover rails are notorious for being unreliable for optics because cover vibration will eventually cause the optic to drift, so we're stuck mounting optics the old fashioned way, with a receiver rail, or by awkward solutions like forward mounting optics with an upper hand guard rail over the gas tube, like pic related. What is your secret? I mean, the dust cover is a moveable part, but the Russian military seems fine with mounting rails on it, so either they're okay with zero drift, or they have a solution that the civilian aftermark does not.

>>132725795
>new

>>132736629
if you need optics on your small arms you are doing your tactics wrong

>russian
You mean mongolian.

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>>132736629
By adding a hinge to the front of the dust cover and a locking mechanism on the rear. A lot like the zenitco B-33 railed dust cover on my SLR-106. Notice the hinges attached to the B-10M handguard.

>>132725795
shouldn't this be on /k/ or something?

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>>132725795
AK-74 based


BASED

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>>132736896
Okay, but let's be realistic. Every nation with a serious military mounts optics on its rifles today, including Russia.

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>>132737085
my man, love me my AKs

>>132735426
You're the fucking idiot. This is the 21st century. It's not verdun retard. inb4 America blows everyone up anyway, but counter insurgency doesn't work by blowing up everything and everyone. We live in a time where the enemy is within the civilian population. Do you think the generals would have sent Marines into Fallujah if they could have just nuked it dummy? All those things you mentioned are great but precise operations will never be done without guys with guns. You don't capture HVTs with Intel by hitting him and a city block with a 105mm. You don't do patrols in cities with artillery. Go back to wargame or whatever shitty RTS you play before you speak on how modern militaries should conduct modern warfare.

And I know this is going to be funny coming from an American, but Serbia really shouldn't be telling anyone how to go about how to be a successful fighting force. Your military was just butchers with machine guns raping and blowing up muds 25 years ago.

>>132736896

Another
>Serbian intellectual
Telling people about 21st century tactics. Just because your country can't afford cool shit, you use "tactics" to justify this. Go fight in Afghanistan where firefights were well over 500 meters at times and let me know if you would rather have irons instead.

>>132736896
Irons should be a last resort.

>>132725795
>https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/russian-militarys-assault-rifle-passed-180203250.html


THIS is the new AK: https://youtu.be/lJs9sBBjLls

>>132736946
Interesting. I had not known that existed. I've only ever seen either dust covers with rails baked into them, or shitty strap-on ones that are not clamped at either side.

>>132736896
You are a fucking moron.
Even the nazis knew that optics on all weapons are the way to go.

>>132737399
Japs put more optics on their machine guns than anyone else, practically every Japanese mg had optics back in the day.

Y'all need a L85A2 in your life.

>>132725992
Too easy to bump the mag release with your wrist inadvertently. Meaning that no matter how good the rest of the rifle is... its shit.

>>132737091
no
just no

if you are putting glass on your gun you have no fucking clue what the fuck are you doing
this is the reason 99% of your troops never saw any combat while all got ptsd
and why 99% of our troops did the killing, with a knife half of the time and no one got ptsd
optics are the reason your army paraded in heels and our armies never wore heels
im telling you man
optics, dildos, and all other such crap, have no place on small arms
optics are the reason you killed less nazis than monte fucking negro

never do optics, kids

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>tfw Hollande killed the FAMAS and the 400 years old company that made it to buy an obsolete German gun

Haha until your on a hill and can't aim down cause the clip is in the way

>>132728643
>What you make are overengineered overpriced bricks that malfunction as soon as they're taken out of their perfect testing conditions.

Nice fuddlore.

>>132737959
>clip

>>132725992
>>132726323
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>>132727996
the kids on xbox live love paying money for supply drops for these
the li

>>132725795
>clearly visible gas tube
>it's M4 guys!
retard

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Nice job on the top cover modification - would love to see one up close. Looks like the rear catch may be a completely new design.

I have converted all of my AKs and all of my friends AKs, VEPRs etyc. to the AR collapsible style stock. Not only does it allow the user to obtain an optimal length, but a cheaply adjustable cheek weld and usually moves the stock more inline with the barrel

Nice rifle - Hope we will be allowed to get one from those evil Russians ;)

>>132737728
The famas is a piece of shit though.

>>132738620
>Hope we will be allowed to get one from those evil Russians
I wouldn't bet on it.

>>132738665
No it isn't, it's pretty decent and from what I've heard most French troops like it.

>>132738665
nah it's not, especially compared to the HK 416, the issue is that it wasn't made for standard NATO rounds.

>>132738800
90% of our soldiers loved it, 10% who were paid off by NATO shat on it.

Wasn't the AK-12's specialty supposed to be the incorporation of a two-round burst from the failed AN-94?

>>132738954
Nah, that two round burst feature is too complex and fragile, the entire rifle is a meme.

The AK-107 is where it's at.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJs9sBBjLls

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>>132738800
>most French troops like it.
Don't trust the frogs, they would eat shit and tell you it's delicious as long as a french flag is stuck into it.

>>132738845
>lever delayed blowback
>ever a good design
It's a turd, bullpup meme just adds to it.


The Dutch have a nice rifle, should have gone with the leaf guns. Also fuck HK. The only good guns they make right now are their MGs.

>>132739716
literally and figuratively nothing wrong with bullpup

>>132725992
Tavor is crappy. Galil is divine

>pol arguing about guns
>nobody realizes that if we stopped finnancing weapons we could have end hunger in the third world,
>we could literaly stop people dying but instead we make things that kills people
pol lacks empathy thats why you fascist are on the wrong side of history

>>132725992
>plastic
>fails drop tests
>bullpup
made me respond / 10

>>132740122
I wish we made gun with the sole and express purpose of killing anyone living in or coming from the third world

>>132737667
Like I said earlier, stop pulling statistics out if your pussy and go fight in a war. And not some ethnic cleansing operation you subhuman slav.

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>>132739799
>literally and figuratively nothing wrong with bullpup

>>132740122

ending all hunger with unlimited access to food
would double the world's population every 10-15 years -

bet that would create a problem or two

>>132725863
more like pure rape ;)

>>132739937

would love a Galil definitely one of the finest AK variants out there

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>>132725992
Reminder that the designers of the Galil had to put a grip/bottle opener on the gun because the israelis army grunts were fucking up their mags.
Reminder that the Desert Eagle was sold to the israelis because they needed a weapon for the crews of their tanks, at least they quickly replaced it.
>>132738845
>90% of our soldiers loved it, 10% who were paid off by NATO shat on it.
Yeah they loved it, when they had the occassion to shoot it, that means almost never.

>>132741151
Swiss autists make the best AKs.

>>132739799
I'll have to say I believe the French more due to them having forces actually conducting large operations abroad with the FFL, and a least their country doesn't shit on its soldiers for their political choices.

>>132741537
>he doesn't know we've had boot on the grounds around the world for decades
where have you been

>>132742272
I'm not talking about combat anon, it's about training. How many stories do we have of soldiers shooting less than 20 rounds per year because of restrictions? It's even the same shit in the police. For example, the flashball, it's mandatory to pass an exam each year for you to be able to use it during interventions, they shoot 3 live slugs and 2 dulls if you already passed it, and 7-8 lives if you're new with the weapon. If they had.
Police officiers probably shoot more in 6-7 months during school than in 10 years of training when they're active, that's a shame.
The problem don't stand with them, I'm sure some are willing to train more, so they go out to the range when they have the time, but they shouldn't have to do that. If we want a professionnal army, give it all the means you'd expect them to have and need.
Also because we're on the subject, what do you think about the FELIN?

>>132743198
>make very expensive VR system tailored for specific rifle
>when the program is finally ready get rid of the rifle

>>132725795
Take it to /k/, fag!

>>132733995
>that epic image
wtf, I'm vatnik now.